WEBVTT - Thalía: Amor A La Mexicana 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:03.440 So it's kidding, Leana. I want to be the one 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:04.960 asking the questions this time. 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.399 Oh, Jojo coming in hot today, I wasn't ready. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:13.159 Do you use me? It's Jose Antonio and then come 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:16.560 in hot every day. Thanks. Anyway, my question for. 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:18.759 You, hum, I'm ready. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.599 How do you bring that bad bitch energy to a 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:23.280 situation that needs it? 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.560 Well? What kind of bad bitch are we being? Are 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.400 we being somebody that needs a raise? Are we trying 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:31.720 to break up with a boyfriend? Are we trying to 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.639 cut off negative energy? I think it depends on what 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:40.320 our situation calls for. Because I think you have to 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.680 temper the bad bitch energy in a direction and channel it. 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.279 That's good. And also here's the thing, like, so what 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.000 do you think, do you like pump yourself up to 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:51.360 get that bad bitch. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.200 Girl or oh yeah, I feel like you have to 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.080 be like very Sasha fierce about it, you know, because 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.680 I think naturally people probably aren't that way when they 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:02.760 just like open their eyes and wake up in the morning. 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.199 So I think whether you need it, I mean, okay, 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.520 most of us that don't have your special energy or 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.400 not like that, So I think, listen, sometimes you need 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.000 a liquid courage. Sometimes you need a pump up song, 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.840 I mean, or you could always just close your eyes 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:24.120 and picture Daliah, because last time we checked in on her. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.320 She was sitting on the desk of De La Visa's president, 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.520 casually checking her French manny and telling him I want 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.000 to be famous, world famous. 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.840 Now we don't actually know that she sat on the desk, 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.360 nor do we know that she was rocking a French 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.160 but this is the late eighties, so it is one 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:47.000 hundred percent possible. Here's what we do know. This girl 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:52.040 made her ambitions known in no uncertain terms. Bitch was 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.040 direct power. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.880 Moves, honey, make them feel like you're sitting on their 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.160 desk and looking at them like they're netting. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.880 It is indeed giving boss, bitch, And after starring in 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:06.960 a smash hit team telenovela and becoming the most popular 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.480 member of Mexico's top teen pop band, Dahlia had more 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:11.840 where that came from. 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:16.079 This rising star showed no signs of slowing, so Delivisa 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.160 president Emilio Askataga did the smart thing and buzzed his 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.400 assistant Rosita, I'm going to need you to book this 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.160 girl a one way ticket to Holly. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.480 As an actor and a singer, Dalia had maxed out 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.720 her time inside the Laisa's talent incubation machine. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.840 And when you stop seeing gains Hun, that's when you 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.200 got to look into a new trainer. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.160 So Dalia spent much of nineteen eighty nine in la 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.520 studying English and taking singing, dancing, and acting courses at 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:51.280 the University of California, And she also reinvented her look. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:58.440 Remember how much Ardalia loved Sandy and Grease the musical, Well, 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.160 Dalia dropped the stylish child from the wardrobe of Finbriice 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.040 and donned a ruffled, braw and studded leather. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:12.320 Jacket aka good bye miss Andrad and hello Sandy. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.560 I mean, I guess that is one way to go 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.800 back to your question, Joseph, to channel your inner bad bitch, Like, 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.919 if you want to be the part, you should dress 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:23.360 the part. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.840 I'm putting on some leather right now, Hane. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.280 I mean, it's amazing to me that this girl went 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:36.720 from like teen wholesome pop to like straddling a motorcycle 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:41.440 in a full leather outfit worthy of sons of anarchy. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:43.160 Well done. 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.160 I'm not seeing any chaps in these pictures, Those come later, 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:50.440 don't you worry. Dalia was showing skin and she wasn't 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.920 shy about it. In Christina Aguilera's terms, she basically went 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:59.920 from reflection to dirty in half the time. But at 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.760 this time, think back, this move was risque, and much 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:09.120 like with Ekstina, the press had something to say. 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.000 Because when you bring out your inner bad bitch, you 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.600 bring out all the jumps. Want to bring a bitch down. 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:19.000 Facts. But remember, Balia wasn't alone. And while she wasn't 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.520 exactly flying off to happily ever after in the passenger 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.680 seat of a T bird grease reference, yep, she wasn't 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:29.800 about to let a couple of scandals dim her light. Wait, 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:35.680 a couple of scandals, of course, this is the telenovela episode. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.800 There's gonna be Escandalo after escandalo, But you gotta wait 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:45.760 for that because that's coming up after the break. I'm 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.640 your host, Lilianavoscaz. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:52.000 And I'm Joseph Carrio and this is Becoming an Icon. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.000 A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.360 how today's most famous LATINV stars have shaped pop culture. 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.480 And give it the world some extra level. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.280 Sit back and get comfortable. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.760 Because we are going in the. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:12.680 Only way we know how with Buena buenasriesas and a 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.240 lot of opinions as we relive their greatest achievements on 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.320 our journey to find out what makes them so iconic. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:34.559 Dhalia's self titled solo debut was a buzzworthy affair. Before 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.479 saying goodbye to t Medicin, she had appeared with the 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.839 group on their seventh and eighth albums, both of which 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.760 had sold a cool million copies. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.880 And after her in Boulina Rubio's very public fight on 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.800 stage at at Timidice concert, it was clear who was 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.120 the most popular member of. 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.520 The group, so all jokes aside. Her new look for 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.600 the album was a big swing, and she struck gold 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:03.720 two times gold to exact at two hundred thousand units sold. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:08.080 Within two weeks, the record had completely sold out, and 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.440 we're talking Vinyl's CDs and passetts. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.840 And that's despite one of her promo singles being banned 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:15.679 from the radio. 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.680 Because Dali's Bad Girl debut didn't stop with her looks. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:25.000 First, Dalia's lead single Unpacto Andreoss was attacked by critics 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.480 for sado masochistic lyrics. Should we read reverse. 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:36.400 Salucelo razrunyao yerrelo, gosas lololo enojate or yallo. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:41.359 H ya translation for all of our non Spanish speaking 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:46.880 listeners seduce him, scratch him, cut him, enjoy his pain, 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.520 scold him, get angry, hate him. It's getting hot today. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.160 The controversy would build to the point where the album's 0:06:55.200 --> 0:07:00.480 second single, Saliva, would be banned from several radio stations, but. 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.360 The rest of the album singles were uncontroversial. There's the 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.520 ballad Amara Sul and the final single Pienzunthi, which. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:12.560 Is a ballad dedicated to her producer and romantic partner 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.960 Alfredo Diaz or Thas Scandalo. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.560 Those two Nasty Girls singles were co written by Talia 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:23.320 and Ordaz over days in the studio that probably felt 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.960 more like steamy knights in the studio, if you know 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:26.480 what I mean. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.080 Ordaz was introduced to Talia by Televisa's president as the 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.880 producer on Talia's debut. He and Talia worked closely together 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:35.880 on every track, and. 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.400 As production on the album neared completion, Dalia and Ordaz 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.559 were seen in public together more and more. 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.640 This would be enough for tabloid fodder on its own. 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.960 But the bigger piece here is that Ordaz was about 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.360 twice Dalia's age. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.720 Double is Scandalo, And when she wasn't being hounded about 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.400 her spicy new look, Dalia was fielding questions about that 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:00.480 or daddy. 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.440 I can't believe you just called him that. And even 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:07.760 though her solo debut was a resounding success, all the 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.360 negative attention from the press about her racy new persona, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.080 as well as quote unquote concerned parents who took her 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:20.119 first singles as proof of Satan worship, eventually wore Aaliyah down. 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.000 Listen always with the Satan, these. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:26.560 People latinos man, it's always, it's always in the devil 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.800 there is. Dahlia was hit hard by depression. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:31.960 Quote. I didn't want to go out anymore. I didn't 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.800 want to sing. I didn't want to promote the album nothing. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.880 We've said it before, we will say it forever. Fame 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.439 will test a bitch, even a bad one, but especially 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.320 when you're twenty years old. 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.360 But as we've also said before, Dahlia wasn't alone. Your Landa, 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.360 Dalia's momager and most trusted fam dropped an okay, yeah 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:53.640 and gave her daughter. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.480 A choice quote if you want, we'll stop everything artistic. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.439 We'll pack our bags and leave the country to study 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.079 to become a lawyer, a doctor, a psychologist, whatever you want. 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.000 Or option two, if you want to continue being an 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.520 artist and make a name for yourself in this industry, 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.160 we'll fight tooth and nail and nobody is going to 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.600 break you. But right now, you have to tell me 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:17.400 what we're going to do. 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.880 Would you call that a pep talk or like, is 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:22.160 that more of an ultimatum? 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:28.000 I would say that is empowered decision forcing that. I 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:32.640 do it a lot with my toddler. If you want 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.720 to do this or when you do this, we can 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.120 do this. I think it's kind of how you have 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.560 to talk to your children when they're right on the 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.679 border of being not just kids but also adults. Right like, 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.240 you're saying you want this, but how bad do you 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:49.080 want it? 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:50.080 Do you really? 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.480 You know? And by the way, I will love you 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:57.160 unconditionally regardless of the choice, which I think is the 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:01.480 most important piece of the conversation. Do whatever you want, 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.080 no skin off my back, because I love you no 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.680 matter what. But I have to know who I'm supporting 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.560 in this. So are you gonna be a bad bitch. 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:14.240 Are we going home? Are gonna be a doctor? You decide, Max, 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:21.680 and I think in these conversations, Yolanda reawakened her daughter's confidence. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.640 But not long after that, Dalia's relationship with our dogs 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.800 would hit some rough waters. For reasons we'll get into 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:29.880 in just a bit. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.640 Dalia was still determined to become her words, not just famous, 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:39.439 world famous, but between the press and the personal drama, 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.520 she needed to get away. So Dalia and her mother 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.280 found a two birds, one stone solution christ Trip. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.079 Dalia Joli hopped on a plane and zoomed to Espana, 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.360 and after meeting some of Spanish television's movers and shakers 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:59.120 over unaskanyas they landed, Talia a spot on the Spanish 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.479 variety show vip Nocee. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.760 Telia quickly became a fixture in Spanish household, charming audiences 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.640 nationwide and showing off that Hollywood grade singing and dancing. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.000 That girls trip turned into a six month engagement in Spain, 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.080 and that six month engagement in Spain led to one 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.880 of Dalia's most iconic eras. 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.319 It's nineteen ninety one and Dalia's mother receives. 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.160 A phone call, well can we say for funzies that 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.199 they were sleeping in after a long night of. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:42.120 Tatpath Yes, sure, Okay, It's nineteen ninety one. Dalia and 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:46.800 her mom are sleeping in after some wild, crazy, kind 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.800 of raunchy knight fueled by vermouth and choriso. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:54.200 When the phone rings, Yulando's arm creeps out from under 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.840 the duvet, gropes around the night's den and finds the handset. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.559 She musters a graghy alla and listens to the voice 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:02.440 on the other end. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.720 But she's not really listening until she hears the following name, 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.319 Valentine Pimstein. 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.360 Dalia and Yulanda joel to wake and sit up, pill 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.280 marks on their faces, hair spray, all as the Valentine 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.720 Pinstein see signor the Valentine Pinkstein, the man who would 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.839 come to be known as the father of the pink telenovella. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.520 And you might be asking yourself what the fuck is 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:33.920 a pink telenovela? Well, all the craziest tropes and images 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:37.360 you might think of when you hear the word deelenovela 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:41.920 basically come from the pink delenovela. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.160 Melodramatic romance check plot twist like amnesia and an evil 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:50.839 twin siblings. Check crazy fight scenes, a woman going blind 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:52.720 after witnessing her husband cheating. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.520 Oh yeah, check double check. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.480 Talking dogs, evil witches, poison check check check. 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:03.439 Valentine was a Chilean producer of more than sixty such telenovelas, 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:09.360 including Los Ricos, Tambien, Joran, viv Rumpoco, and Chucco el Roto, 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:13.199 and he wanted Talia to start in not one, not two, 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:18.480 but three felenovelas known as Las Marias. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:22.920 These three telenovelas were each inspired by Cinderella. So poor 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:26.000 girl meets rich boy, they find forbid in love, and 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.079 that's basically all they have in common with Cinderella, because 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.560 from there they get absolutely Craig Gray. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.400 And for Joseph to call something Craig Gray, you know 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.880 it's got to be off the rails, okay. And this 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.360 turned out to be the opportunity of a lifetime for 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:47.360 Talia Valentine. Pimstein's tele novelas had helped launch the career 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:51.000 of none other than Veronica Castro. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:56.840 Aka the actress slash singer slash interviewer who added Diane 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.920 Sawyer sit down with Talia and paulin Arrubio after their 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:01.160 on stage throwdown. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:06.720 Aka Dalia's own hashtag goals. Dalia immediately said yes, when 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.080 do I start? But there was one holdout in the 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:13.720 conversations that followed. The l'visa president, Emilio Askataga, the very 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:18.080 same man who had sent Dalia to Hollywood. Emilio's objection 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.800 Dalia was too young for the project. 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.360 Okay, gay, she's too young to please Cinderella, but she's 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.280 not too young to parade around in a brawl. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.680 Yeah, and parade around? Excuse me? When did my co 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.760 host turn into Abraham Vania. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.760 Don't get interested. I'm here for the parading. What I'm 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.040 not here for is a big daddy Emilio calling the shots. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.920 I mean, I am not here for men making decisions 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:47.000 about women's careers. How about that bo But don't worry 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.720 because one day that the le Visa president got a 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:54.400 buzz from his secretary. There's someone here to see you, 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:55.359 she said. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.080 Or for funzies. Can we say he was trying to 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:59.960 take a nap off of a double whiskey soda. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.720 I mean, we just went from Cinderella to madmis so 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.600 let's go for it. Okay, this guy's definitely a power luncher. Okay, 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.600 so he was slumped over his desk. Emilio Groggiley asks 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.920 the secretary who's there, and the name he hears makes 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:16.480 him bolt upright with a fountain pen stuck to his face. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:23.080 The Valentine Peinstein, the Man, the Myth, the Legend, and 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:27.080 mister Beamestein convinced Askataga to let the Lia star in 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:32.280 the first novella of the trilogy, Maria Mercedes, the. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.320 Story of a poor girl supporting her broken family by 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.640 sellaring lottery tickets on the street. Abandoned by her mother 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.960 and scorned by her alcoholic father, fate throws young Maria 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.360 a curveball, or perhaps a lifeline, when she falls in 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.000 love with a young millionaire Josse Luis del Lmo. 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.080 Dahlia basically threw her life into the production of this show. 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.000 She arrived at the studio at six am and left 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.600 at midnight, totaling an eighteen hour workday. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.440 Dang Theyan't got no sad in Mexico. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.080 No for real. Dalia even rented a house across the 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.640 street from Televisa in order to always be on call 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:09.240 for filming. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.360 This all sounds like a hard hitting Hollywood Reporter article or. 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:17.440 Another podcast add it to the list. iHeart to be clear, 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.440 very few people can actually survive or work like this. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:26.480 Under most circumstances, this would feel untenable. But when you're young, 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.720 and when you have the right mix of people, sometimes 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.040 you can get lucky and actually have a lot of 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:33.160 fun on the grind. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.440 True, and Dahlia did have the right mix of people. Specifically, 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.360 she got to work with her big sister. That's right, 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:41.320 big Sis. 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:46.520 Laura Sabatta, Dalia's original inspo, played the evil stepmother to 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:50.960 Talia Cinderella, and because this is Dalia, her character had 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.840 a rebellious streak. That means that this Cinderella collapped back 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.920 at her evil stepmother, leading to some of the most 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.800 iconic fight scenes in telen novella history. 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.040 Let's watch one right now. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.040 Auviy okay, So let's set the stage. First. Of all, 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:14.520 the hair, so much hair, so curly, so big, so dramatic. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:21.280 The clothes. I will never forget this French's mustard yellow suit. 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:26.160 No, no, no, away she pulls up those raggety sleep. 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.560 Oh no, but she's not messing around. They are about 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.880 to throw down, down, down, down. 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.160 Oh she does and they're slapping each other and it's 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:35.920 just so insane. 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:41.919 Yeah, I mean, Maria Mercedis is synonymous with a slap 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:44.600 like Bill Smith. Will Smith has nothing. 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:50.720 Oh sh keep my wife's name out your mouth slapping. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.760 They should have watched this before. They're big moment at 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.680 the Oscars. According to Dahlia, she and her sister would 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.119 break into fits of laughter for twenty minutes at a 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:07.520 time on set, sometimes breaking repeatedly over the same line. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.200 Dang, thank got no iatzi in Mexico. 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.359 Seriously, though, big ups to whoever was holding the boom 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.399 mic through all of that. According to Talia, though it 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.639 was good vibes all throughout the set and throughout the cast. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.480 According to the actor who played Dalia's love interest, arthurro Pnicice, 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.520 Dalia loved to have lunch at a seafood restaurant close 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.760 to tell Visa and would show up to set a 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:30.960 reeking of garlic. 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.440 The day of their very first kiss scene, Dalia went 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:38.760 soul brat and ate fish with extra garlic sauce, purely 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.000 to troll arturo When arturo Ka went to this, he 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.879 staged a counter attack by snarping down a red onion 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.000 and blowing in her face during their kiss. When the 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:52.760 director called action, they locked lips and both wanted to hurl. 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.720 That was our first on screen kiss. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.720 Well, in the show, Maria doesn't want to kiss Josse Luise, 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.560 so it actually was a happy onset accident. 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:07.200 Wow. Tele novela magic y'all. Maria Mercedez would become an 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.480 instant hit in Mexico and was broadcast in one hundred 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.560 different countries. Cut to President Askaraga calling out Valentine. 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:20.199 Pinstein, Askataga simply told Pimstein two words, all three, and 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.040 so Talia starred in the next to theelenvelas of the trilogy, 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.520 Marie mar and Maria La del Barrio. 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:30.200 Marie mar is basically the same story as Maria Mercedes, 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:31.960 except it takes place on the coast. 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:33.840 I mean that is so classic. They're like, we don't 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:35.600 need a new story, we just need a news backdrop. 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:40.560 Just get me another soundstage. The show is remembered for 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:45.080 Thalia's coastal accent and for Talia's best friend and confident 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.479 on the show, a talking dog. Oh yes, a la, 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.040 Look who's talking now? 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:52.760 You mean the movie with the talking babies? 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:57.440 No, The sequel to the sequel with the talking dogs. 0:19:57.880 --> 0:19:59.960 Ugh, wait, you mean the movie where the two dogs 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:01.280 the cat or trying to go home? 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:03.760 No what, that's homeward bound. 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:06.440 You know what, Let's just stick to Dalia girl. 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.120 Great call. Next in the trilogy, Maria la del Barrio 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:14.400 storrying Talia as a poor girl wearing a homemade jughead crown. Yes, 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:18.359 like jughead from the Archie copics. Just roll with it, 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.000 you guys. I promise I am not trolling you and 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.679 making this up. I promise this is actual facts, like 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.680 you can google this. Okay. So this is Dalia as 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.000 a poor girl with her jug head crown and hanging 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:33.480 out with even more animal friends because Talia, I don't know. 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.240 I guess she just loved animals. 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:39.439 But more importantly, it featured La Rena Itati Cantrel as 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.520 the villain Soria Montenegro, who you may know from. 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:51.200 My aka the notorious iconic. Positively a that shit scene 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:55.439 where Soriya walks in on her Levernando aka Maria's adoptive 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.440 son of fifteen years because the show has a time 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:04.080 skipp duh kissing Soria's wheelchair bound adoptive daughter Alicia, whom 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:08.360 she's stuck taking care of after marrying and murdering Alicia's 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.600 widow or father for the money, and then just goes 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:12.960 absolutely apian on both of them. 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.920 The story is bananas and we love it for that 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:20.000 point is. Punters are thrown, hair is pulled, the wheelchair 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:22.880 is knocked over. Find it on YouTube if you've been 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:23.920 living under a rock. 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:29.320 Dalia threw down in several scenes with Ita, and the 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.480 two women gave each other a full permission to really 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:36.520 truly slap the shit out of each other, closely choreographing 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.000 where their hands would land. 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.679 Sitalia, we slapped each other so hard that our jaws 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.520 almost almost almost came off. 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:49.760 I mean, between both of these fights, our girl likes 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:51.760 to take a punch, like she likes to be hurt. 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.520 Now I understand the lyrics for the first song, and 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:59.360 now that's some pat shit and we don't have time 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.200 to get into the story. But it's also worth noting 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.280 Dalia got bitten by a monkey while filming this show. 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.719 And listen, we love a queen who will bleed for 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:09.280 their art. 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.120 You mean, got rabies for their art. 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.359 Look a little rabies is worth it when you're reaching 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.200 all of Latin America, parts of the Middle East, Europe, 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:20.440 and East Asia. Fun fact, one of the biggest fan 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:23.560 bases for Marimar. The second show in the trilogy was 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.520 the Philippines. Dalia even went on a tour of East 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:30.560 Asia in the early nineties, and fans swarmed her for autographs. 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.000 She was even invited to meet the country's president. 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:36.760 Dang so like. Dalia told the president of Fela Visa 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.960 that she wanted to be world famous in nineteen eighty eight, and. 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:42.879 Five years later she did it, and she was still 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:46.399 releasing music even as she was working eighteen hour production days. 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:49.000 But even as the music went on, the heartbreak that 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.320 Dalia went to Spain to escape would look awfully small 0:22:52.480 --> 0:23:07.480 compared to what was coming. Let's rewind a bit. Remember 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.399 why Talia skipped out of Mexico City for Spain in 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.200 the first place. Mm hmm. 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:15.040 The press was coming after her. Things reading complicated with 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:19.040 her Silver Fox Boo and collaborator Alfredo Diaz Ordas. 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:23.320 Right about that complication. One of the questions the press 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:26.840 loved at Tahlia was about Ordas popping the question. 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:32.080 Art imitates life, y'all, and Talia's life was dramatico no 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:34.000 tucking dogs or poison. 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:38.399 Though Ordas had indeed asked Talia to be his bride 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.879 after the release of her self titled debut, and you 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:45.160