Speaker 1: News update. We roll into the trade deadline on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: July nineteen, and we are weak confirmation that Trevor Bauer
Speaker 1: is on his weight since Cincinnati Reds ESPN Jefferson One's
Speaker 1: first report Tuesday night that Barrett was on his way
Speaker 1: to the Reds as part of a three team deal
Speaker 1: involving the San Diego Padres as well. John Hayman of
Speaker 1: MLB Network says that the Reds are moving s Seal Creeds,
Speaker 1: and the Indians, and Dennis Lynn of The Athletic, who
Speaker 1: was also the first add that Cleveland will also get
Speaker 1: franmel Res and Logan Allen from the Padres. Reds top
Speaker 1: outfield prospect Taylor Trammell will ahead to San Diego. At
Speaker 1: the same time that this trade was announced, a brawl
Speaker 1: broke down between the Reds and the Pirates. Seal Preek
Speaker 1: involved in that one. We are wait word on suspensions
Speaker 1: and in the NFL, Bengals wide receiver A. J. Green
Speaker 1: may miss more than just one regular season game. On
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Speaker 1: your network, alongside Frankie Snaffle, Michael Florio, I am Greg Susman.
Speaker 1: Looks that trying. That's another open. Let's get that off,
Speaker 1: all right, Okay, start to the show. Frank what's some
Speaker 1: happy hope day to you? Greggy, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: I just sleepless. I'm doing great. I uh, I slept well.
Speaker 1: I did a lot of things that you don't like,
Speaker 1: which means I watched politics last night. It was a
Speaker 1: good night. Not involved in that at all tonight too.
Speaker 1: It should be fun. All right, Well, you give me
Speaker 1: a recap tomorrow and everything that's going on probably won't.
Speaker 1: In the corner, Hey, that's your MIC's on under you.
Speaker 1: It's a button under that table. I want to be
Speaker 1: sure it's on. There you go. It's Mike Floyd. Hey, Mike, Hey,
Speaker 1: Greggy and Frank. Uh. It's been a while since I've
Speaker 1: been in this seat. It's been a year. First, long
Speaker 1: time over a year since I've I've seen Greggy, I've
Speaker 1: seen Frankie since then, but it's been We got the
Speaker 1: invite to Lukers. I heard. I had literally no idea
Speaker 1: what was happening. I was told we were going to
Speaker 1: some chicken spot. Yeah. There was just like I was
Speaker 1: walking and I was like wait and there was like
Speaker 1: fifteen people I knew in front of Lugers and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is awesome. That's awesome. It was a
Speaker 1: great night. But delicious. Did you like your food more
Speaker 1: than Frank did? I loved it, Frank, you didn't love it.
Speaker 1: It was a little it was not cook. I told
Speaker 1: you I liked the food right now. They said that
Speaker 1: it was a little bit more read than I would
Speaker 1: have liked. Well, we had this discussion. Frank said, how
Speaker 1: do you eat your steak? I said, normally medium, But
Speaker 1: when you come to a place like this, medium rare,
Speaker 1: Like you gotta do that And Frank said, no, I'm
Speaker 1: more of a I listened. You like your steak medium? Well,
Speaker 1: you said, right? Is that it right? Is that is
Speaker 1: that bad? It wouldn't say it's good. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's a little bit overcooked. Just I don't I don't
Speaker 1: like my meat too block it makes you feel better.
Speaker 1: The President likes his meat well done. Let catch up,
Speaker 1: Let's catch up. I don't do either of those things.
Speaker 1: I hope not. Let's bring in our buddy, e y
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Speaker 1: If I've ever heard one, e Y strikes me as
Speaker 1: a big steak eater. E Y, how do you eat
Speaker 1: your steak medium rare? Uh? Well, that's what I the
Speaker 1: other day. I would have loved that he was a
Speaker 1: man's man, was there. If you're a person that that
Speaker 1: eats steak well done, don't talk to me totally. Don't
Speaker 1: get it well done. I don't. I don't get it
Speaker 1: well done. You wouldn't mind it well eat? Eat slice
Speaker 1: roast beat from the from the grocery store. Something. You're
Speaker 1: wasting your time, amateurs, amateur Uh So the story of
Speaker 1: the Hawaiian shirts in this room that you're seeing, we
Speaker 1: told it last week, going to relay it again. So
Speaker 1: the Hawaians were all wearing are from my closet, and
Speaker 1: these were all worn by me in the sixth grade
Speaker 1: when I was twelve years old, and they all still fit.
Speaker 1: They somehow fit, they stay somehow fit us pretty nicely.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, That's why I was saying
Speaker 1: right before the show started, I would love to see
Speaker 1: a picture of sixth grade Greg wearing one of these shirts,
Speaker 1: because I had to be addressing. I don't think it was.
Speaker 1: These fit us very well, in fact, quite perfectly. Actually,
Speaker 1: Like this is like I went to a store and
Speaker 1: was buying Hawaiian shirt. This is the size I would buy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would not mind laying on a peach right now
Speaker 1: with a with a fruity drink in my hand, pretty
Speaker 1: drinks or that day. Yeah, I wouldn't mind. Whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do. I'm pretty sure at least mind and
Speaker 1: Frank's close from like middle school would still fit us
Speaker 1: today because I I don't know about Frank. I think
Speaker 1: probably so. But baggy clothes were in when we were
Speaker 1: in middle so I used to wear like a four
Speaker 1: x T and like I was like five foot, it
Speaker 1: would fit me. It would probably be big on me.
Speaker 1: Today it's pretty good. I didn't button it up because
Speaker 1: like the shirt has a hood and stuff, but it's
Speaker 1: fitting pretty well. I think so too, man, I think
Speaker 1: so too. Alright on the program, name is gonna be
Speaker 1: a great great show today because an our one. We're
Speaker 1: going over the second round. Frank and I today first round, mok.
Speaker 1: We only had one player that was not in um
Speaker 1: the same in between the first round, and that was
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas, that's right, who signed a big
Speaker 1: extension today, and I had Joe Mixing. That was difference
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas versus Joe Mixes. So one player each that
Speaker 1: was different. Everything else. We did a couple of picks
Speaker 1: for each other, so that was pretty cool. I assume
Speaker 1: that today will be a little bit different. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go over the second round. Will we come back that
Speaker 1: we'll do it now. I'm gonna tell you guys what
Speaker 1: our first round was, and you let me know both
Speaker 1: you Mike and you euy, what really stands out is
Speaker 1: wrong to you? If you could, like, well, let you
Speaker 1: know what we did, and you let me know what
Speaker 1: you really dislike or we're all so for me my
Speaker 1: top twel when you care years In the second, frank
Speaker 1: take Kawon Barley number one, c MC number two, Alvin Camara, three,
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, four, DeAndre Hopkins five, Davanta Adams six, David
Speaker 1: Johnson seven, levy On Bell eight, Jimmy Connor nine, Julio Jones, ten,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, Levin and Juju twelve. Frankie take Kawon Barkley,
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, CMC, Zekiel Elliott, David Johnson, Davante Adams, DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, Levian Bell, James Conner, Joe Mixon, and Juju
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster So Flora after hearing that, what do you
Speaker 1: think mine would be a lot different only only because
Speaker 1: of uh, not a lot of different names, but different
Speaker 1: order because of stylistic approach this year heavily, heavily a
Speaker 1: believer that there's a finite value of running backs. We
Speaker 1: are going to give you two fifty plus touches. I
Speaker 1: want one of those guys on my team. I like
Speaker 1: the receivers in round two a lot. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: a running back and round one kind of guy. So
Speaker 1: this is like my top seven picks would all be
Speaker 1: running backs. What stands out to you in our first rounds? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like all those guys are are fairly there.
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna be honest, I still have Ezekiel Elliott one.
Speaker 1: I believe they're going to get it done. Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: will pay him, he will play this year. He's been
Speaker 1: in the system for a while. He doesn't really need
Speaker 1: to be a training camp. Zeki Elliott's my number one
Speaker 1: one running back and that hasn't changed. But I mean
Speaker 1: the order would be a little bit different for me,
Speaker 1: but that's basically and Nick Chobs are definitely in my
Speaker 1: top twelve. Nick Chob definitely in your top twelve. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get into Nick Chub because he is my next twelve.
Speaker 1: We'll discuss where he lands as well, and some of
Speaker 1: the other running backs like Damian Williams you here from
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, who I know Mike Floyd has a lot
Speaker 1: to say about. We'll get to that on today's program
Speaker 1: as well. It's gonna be a fun first hour in
Speaker 1: our number two. Well, it's a witching hour, right, We're
Speaker 1: gonna the last hour off into the MLB trade deadline.
Speaker 1: I know e WI doesn't give a crop about that,
Speaker 1: so that's good. You won't be on the show anymore.
Speaker 1: So that's cool. Um that's the second hour of today's show.
Speaker 1: First hour. It is our entire second round preview. So
Speaker 1: stick around, it's e y, it's Florio, it's all to
Speaker 1: b f f's together. Reunited Hawaiian shirt would be a big,
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Speaker 1: Com We're back here with you to be a fast
Speaker 1: Frank staffle Michael Florio in studio, Eric Young as well
Speaker 1: Rocket on Hawaiians, we were called the Fantasy Jimmy Buffett's
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I get behind that lem in
Speaker 1: on it wasted game Maville. You know I have a
Speaker 1: wedding next year at Margarinaville in Florida. Really yeah, it
Speaker 1: sounds like something you're going to love. I don't see
Speaker 1: how I wouldn't love. Can you wear your Hawaiian shirt?
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask if I just wear like a
Speaker 1: sports jacket with my Hawaiian Yeah, and maybe just button
Speaker 1: it all the way up and wear a bow tie
Speaker 1: with a wine shirt. I get your Head's that supported?
Speaker 1: All right? Let me get to the second round here
Speaker 1: for me and Frank will reveal his and you guys
Speaker 1: will obviously all comment at number thirteen. Overall, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna like this one Florio for me because it's another
Speaker 1: wide receiver and he was the one that just missed
Speaker 1: out of course in my first round. Clease's number thirteen clearly, Um,
Speaker 1: that's Odell Belholm Jr. I had a hard time differentiating
Speaker 1: between Michael Thomas JUJU and Odell's. Odell is the next
Speaker 1: highest player on my board. I think he's in store
Speaker 1: for a big year with Cleveland as long as you
Speaker 1: can stay healthy. A lot of what you've seen on
Speaker 1: Twitter over the past few days or all the um
Speaker 1: all the throws that Eli missed them right all the
Speaker 1: throws where Eli was high and and Odell had like
Speaker 1: seven steps on um a quarterback, and that should change
Speaker 1: now with Baker Mayfield throwing the ball. I think O'Dell again.
Speaker 1: As long as he stays healthy, He's in lying for
Speaker 1: a big year. He frank he's my number thirteen player
Speaker 1: overall in the first pick of the second round, I
Speaker 1: don't have him number thirteen. That's where Michael Thomas comes
Speaker 1: in for me, who you had inside your top twelve.
Speaker 1: I still I like Odell Becky. Come I don't have
Speaker 1: any shares of Odell Beckham because based on where you
Speaker 1: haven't ranked, other people have him ranked very similarly. And
Speaker 1: whenever I'm in that position, I'm always going Juju over him.
Speaker 1: I'm always going Michael Thomas over him. So I like
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, but I haven't really been able to grab him,
Speaker 1: just because there are other wide receivers in that range
Speaker 1: and I think are a little bit safer. Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: admittedly might have a little bit more upside, but really
Speaker 1: I just want to build my foundation with my first
Speaker 1: two picks. I think Michael Thomas and Juju are safer
Speaker 1: than Odell Beckham this year, Florio, how does that has
Speaker 1: threesome work for you? With Juju, Odell and Michael Thomas.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is your format, like
Speaker 1: and half PPR have them back to back to back.
Speaker 1: I have it Hill, Odell and Juju. Yeah, well oh
Speaker 1: oh Michael, Okay. So Michael Thomas is to me, he's four.
Speaker 1: I have Tier one for me and all my formats
Speaker 1: is Adams Hopkins, Julio, Michael Thomas. That's my top four,
Speaker 1: and then my Tier two is a combo of Beckham, Juju,
Speaker 1: Hill and Mike Evans and Antonio Brown as well as
Speaker 1: in there. But I like, I do like Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: I I do have a few shares of him already.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Greggy. I think him and Baker could
Speaker 1: set the world on fire. I would not be surprised
Speaker 1: at all if Odell finishes as the w R one
Speaker 1: this year. We know how talented he is, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna be in the best offense he's ever been in,
Speaker 1: with the best quarterback I think he's ever been with.
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited for Adell this year. Emy. What
Speaker 1: about you when it comes to Odell Beckham, Michael Thomas. Um.
Speaker 1: I guess you could throw Tyreek Hill in there as well.
Speaker 1: I wasually get to him in a moment um as
Speaker 1: well as Jus Schuster. I have a hell above all
Speaker 1: of them. Then I have Odell Juju than Michael Thomas.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Saints are gonna throw enough for
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas to be in in the top round or
Speaker 1: even um closer to the top round of the second round.
Speaker 1: So it's, uh, it's it's a sneaky one for me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because that's where you come in, right,
Speaker 1: Frankie on Michael Thomas, that you don't think the Saints
Speaker 1: are going to throw enough to make him not be awesome,
Speaker 1: because he's going to be awesome, but not as great
Speaker 1: as these other players Tyree Hill, Juju Smith Schuster, and
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Right. Yeah, I've talked about this a
Speaker 1: lot when we were previewing the Saints. I think there's
Speaker 1: a direct correlation between how much they've been running the
Speaker 1: ball the past couple of years and their defense being
Speaker 1: better in the fact that Drew Brees is passing attempts
Speaker 1: keep coming down. So I agree with e Y to
Speaker 1: a certain extent. I don't know that Michael Thomas has
Speaker 1: as much upside as other players in this range, like
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill and Odell Beckham. He hasn't finished higher than
Speaker 1: wide receiver six in any of his first three seasons.
Speaker 1: He hasn't finished lower than wide receiver seven, So he's
Speaker 1: very consistent. You know what you're going to get out
Speaker 1: of Michael Thomas. If it's a question of consistency versus upside,
Speaker 1: I tend to lean with the consistency. So that's why
Speaker 1: I have Michael Thomas ahead of those two guys. But admittedly,
Speaker 1: I think Tyreek Hill and Odell Beckham probably have more
Speaker 1: upside overall than a Michael Thomas. But I have them
Speaker 1: all in the same range, like, for example, Tyreek Hills
Speaker 1: my number four team player. He's my next player off
Speaker 1: the board, right after Michael Thomas. Florio, you have Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas inside your top chat Obviously, e Y and Frank
Speaker 1: a little bit different. I am, I have them fit.
Speaker 1: I have him fourth, But I think that's here actually
Speaker 1: end with Julios. How come you're so high on Michael Thomas?
Speaker 1: What these guys aren't? I do agree with Frank. I'm
Speaker 1: don't think the Saints are going to pass a whole lot. Actually,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees isn't even a top twelve quarterback for me
Speaker 1: this year, and maybe I I know, like I'm always
Speaker 1: like I'd rather be off a guy year earlier. So
Speaker 1: that's the thing too. But Michael Drew Brees last year,
Speaker 1: first time throwing under four thousand yards since two thousand five,
Speaker 1: fewest past attempt since two thousand four. But even with
Speaker 1: all that said, Michael Thomas was a b S last year.
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is this team's passing offense. Their whole offense.
Speaker 1: I think is Michael Thomas and a mc kamara this year,
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't be surprised if they both combined from
Speaker 1: monster numbers, dominate target share, dominate air yards, dominate all
Speaker 1: the percentages of everything we want to see, it's gonna
Speaker 1: go to those two guys. So I do trust Drew
Speaker 1: Brees to get his from Michael Thomas. And Michael Thomas
Speaker 1: is super consistent. He has some of the best hands
Speaker 1: in the league, is some of the best routes in
Speaker 1: the league, and he just got paid and we don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about it. They're fully committed to him.
Speaker 1: The highest paid guaranteed money for an offensive player that
Speaker 1: doesn't play quarterback in NFL history. Clearly this offense is
Speaker 1: going to run through Michael Thomas. I'm not too concerned.
Speaker 1: And I also I do love the consistency. Like Frank
Speaker 1: said that he brings on a week to week basis. Now,
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill was the name that you brought off in
Speaker 1: this tier. Um e Y says he has tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: above all of them. Where do you have tyreek Hill? Frank? So,
Speaker 1: I have tyreek Hill just between Michael Thomas and Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: So that's the start of a of Well, actually, Juju
Speaker 1: is the start of the of the next tier. I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I have I have Vante Adams, DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: and Julio Jones. Is my top three. That's Tier one.
Speaker 1: That's to me, that's like really round one wide receivers.
Speaker 1: And then tier two is I have Juju, Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, and then Odell Beckham. Uh, tyreek Hill. Look,
Speaker 1: I think there's risk involved with him as well, because
Speaker 1: I think at any given moment, like something can happen
Speaker 1: where another piece of evidence comes out, this guy gets
Speaker 1: suspended or so there's still that in the back of
Speaker 1: my mind, Like I don't want to just complete Lee,
Speaker 1: you know, wash him free of like anything that's going
Speaker 1: on there. But it's just the upside is immense. I mean,
Speaker 1: he finishes the wide receiver one overall lest year on
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty seven targets. His targets went up
Speaker 1: by you know, thirty two from eighteen. And the points
Speaker 1: that he misses out on not having like over a
Speaker 1: hundred receptions. I mentioned this when we were doing the
Speaker 1: Chiefs preview. He makes up with rushing yards. I mean
Speaker 1: people don't really you know, they don't really take that
Speaker 1: into account. But if he's behind these guys about like
Speaker 1: fifteen and twenty receptions, he makes up for it with
Speaker 1: his you know, a hundred fifty rushing yards every year
Speaker 1: year that he has because he does get a few
Speaker 1: of those uh snaps in the backfield. So I like
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. I'm not gonna say that there's no risk
Speaker 1: involved with drafting him because again, something could pop up,
Speaker 1: but is upside, it's potentially higher than Michael Thomas. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep hitting on that. I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: that's crazy to say. I don't know, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't disagree necessarily that the upside is potentially greater than
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. But on but on a week two week basis,
Speaker 1: e y, you don't think, I know, you have Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill both Michael Thomas on a weeks a week basis?
Speaker 1: Are you not more comfortable with Thomas and Hill? I mean,
Speaker 1: and this always goes down to I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: I feel also I've said this forty times and I'll
Speaker 1: probably say it another two thousand times. It just depends
Speaker 1: on your draft and how you've constructed your team from
Speaker 1: that point. I mean, like, do you already have another
Speaker 1: one not wide receiver? Do you have Hopkins? And now
Speaker 1: in the second round, like, I'm probably not gonna take
Speaker 1: either of those guys. I'm gonna probably take a running back.
Speaker 1: So it just depends um on on what you have
Speaker 1: and what you're looking to do in your draft strategy.
Speaker 1: It's the most important part of the draft is have
Speaker 1: a bit of an idea and uh and but you
Speaker 1: gotta be totally plapable depending on who gets taken where. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I look at that consistency and that's why I had
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas a little bit of above Tyreek Hill. Listen,
Speaker 1: I I think Tyrie Hill is very, very fun and
Speaker 1: I think having him paired with Patrick Mahomes obviously it's
Speaker 1: like they're gonna put up a ton of points. Well,
Speaker 1: and again are you pointing to this yesterday with you
Speaker 1: and Michael Thomas, Right, they had that middle stretch of
Speaker 1: season where he did nothing, and it's very very concerning.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a better chance that there's games
Speaker 1: where Tyreek Hill also does nothing. Because it's Floria pointed out,
Speaker 1: it's almacamara, it's Michael Thomas. And what about Jared Cook.
Speaker 1: I knew was coming. But with Kansas City, like with
Speaker 1: Damie Williams, with Travis Kelsey, with Sammy Watkins, there's just
Speaker 1: but he doesn't even need the target share. That's what
Speaker 1: it comes down to, right. He only had a hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty seven targets last year and still finished the
Speaker 1: wide receiver one. That efficiency is not going the Chiefs
Speaker 1: as a whole. Their offense is not going to be,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, not nearly as efficient it was it
Speaker 1: was last year. Like Patrick Mahomes scored more Fantasy points
Speaker 1: than any quarterback ever, only LT had more than him,
Speaker 1: and their offense they were connecting on big plays. They
Speaker 1: were like twenty second in the league in in y'all
Speaker 1: targets to running backs, but they had the most efficient
Speaker 1: pass kitchen running backs and as far back as the
Speaker 1: stats can track, so like they're they were off the
Speaker 1: charts efficient that I think we'll take a little hit
Speaker 1: Florial quickly. In drafts in the second round. Would you
Speaker 1: rather draft Tyree Hiller, Travis Kelsey, e Y, Travis else
Speaker 1: or Tyreek Hill? Jeez? I mean having Kelsey just gives
Speaker 1: you such an advantage of one position to probably Kelsey.
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about it on the other side. Do
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Speaker 1: I asked both of you, guys, e Y and Floria,
Speaker 1: who'd your rather have. It's not even in a vacuum.
Speaker 1: It's just because there can't pick very similar to each other,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey or Tyreek Hill. And the reason I asked
Speaker 1: it is because for me, I have Tyree Hill legitimately
Speaker 1: one spot above Travis Kelsey. E Y, you said Kelsey, Florio,
Speaker 1: you said Hill, But it seems like you want to
Speaker 1: change your mind. I go back and forth because at
Speaker 1: first I was like, no, I never took Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: in the second round. And then as they said Kelsey,
Speaker 1: was like, wait, that's because in all my drafts he's
Speaker 1: gone and usually in the first round. Uh. I don't
Speaker 1: love my team taking a tight end first at all.
Speaker 1: I I especially, I can't do it. If I took
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in round one, I would need to
Speaker 1: have a running back in my first two picks. But
Speaker 1: if I could get that advantage with Travis Kelsey, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be pretty happy about that and probably take that.
Speaker 1: And then, look, I love the middle round receiver, like
Speaker 1: the rounds three through like six receivers. I feel like
Speaker 1: you can legitimately feel a starting roster with that. So
Speaker 1: I'm okay taking Kelsey over Hill there alright, for Frankie,
Speaker 1: what about you, Travis Kelsey or Tyreek Hill? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would take Tyreek Hill even if we expect both of
Speaker 1: these players to regress. Uh. Tyreek Hill outscored Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: by forty points last year and half point PPR leagues,
Speaker 1: And honestly, I just don't know how much better that
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey can possibly get. I think some of that
Speaker 1: ADP that we see was when we assumed that Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill was going to be out me more so I
Speaker 1: would put Travis Kelsey in the middle of the second round.
Speaker 1: I have him as my pick eighteen overall here, Greg,
Speaker 1: But hundred and fifty targets last year for Kelsey, over receptions, yards,
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns. Honestly, I just don't know how much better
Speaker 1: he can get. And Tyreek Hill and Patrick Mahomes, it's
Speaker 1: his play style just matches up so well with Patrick Mahomes. Greg.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys go together like lamb and tuna fish.
Speaker 1: It's a big dead reference. I thank you. It's like
Speaker 1: right around night, a good reference to go. One of
Speaker 1: your buttons is undone too. How about you just I'm
Speaker 1: button the top on two while you're at it, Greg,
Speaker 1: Let's see what you're working with underneath there. I'm good.
Speaker 1: Sure if you want to see the shirtless you watch
Speaker 1: e Y on Monday nights, which can we lather you
Speaker 1: up with baby oil again? I'm good. God, we've done that.
Speaker 1: We've done that to prove that I that I can.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you could do part of what I
Speaker 1: don't think you could pick it up, like you know
Speaker 1: before you go take my shirt off. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: I can do. Yeah, maybe like what your hair a
Speaker 1: little bit was that what you do would was that?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely the hardest part of what I do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't get more, all right, So that's that he here,
Speaker 1: I'd say of wide receivers, obviously Travis Kelsey and a
Speaker 1: tear By himself at tight end. But for me, when
Speaker 1: you get the player number fourteen in the second round,
Speaker 1: so the second pick in the in the second round,
Speaker 1: it's not Joe Mixon. I'm still not at Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: because I have Todd Gurley ranked ahead of Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1: And the reason I do is simply based on upside. Right,
Speaker 1: if all goes right for both of these players, Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon is a first round pick, He's a top seven,
Speaker 1: top six running back. If all goes right, Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: is the number one overall player in fantasy football. It's
Speaker 1: a better offensive line, it's a better offense. Both of
Speaker 1: these guys I believe are risks. Certainly the injury risk
Speaker 1: comes with Todd Gurley. That doesn't need to be said.
Speaker 1: But Joe Mixon, as I told you yesterday, Frank, for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, I can't get fully on board. There's just
Speaker 1: something that screams that it's not gonna work out. You know,
Speaker 1: new co, new scheme. I get the whole thing. I
Speaker 1: want that upside of Todd Gurley, and I haven't ranked.
Speaker 1: I had one spot of Joe Mixon. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: I had Joe Mixon in my first round yesterday at
Speaker 1: pick eleven, just because my logic is you can grab
Speaker 1: the running back there and then whatever wide receiver comes
Speaker 1: back to me, whether it's ju Ju, Michael Tomas, Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill in that second round range, I'm perfectly fine with that. Uh. Look,
Speaker 1: they're both risky. I get it. The injury risk probably
Speaker 1: scares me a little bit more. As bad as the
Speaker 1: Bengals were last year, all the injuries A J. Green,
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton was injured for part of the year, the
Speaker 1: offensive line wasn't good last year, Joe Mixon still finished
Speaker 1: in the top ten running back. He's still finished as
Speaker 1: RB nine, and I understand Todd Gurley has been the
Speaker 1: RB one, not a r B one, the RB one
Speaker 1: each of the past two seasons. He scored forty total
Speaker 1: touchdowns over the past two regular seasons. I'm just scared, man,
Speaker 1: Like you build your foundation of your fantasy teams with
Speaker 1: with your first and your second round pick. I still
Speaker 1: have Girle as my my fifteenth ranked player here. I
Speaker 1: have one spot ahead of Odell Beckham because I think
Speaker 1: there's some injury concerned with Odell Beckham obviously as well.
Speaker 1: Uh So, if if I'm looking at both players there
Speaker 1: that are risky, I'd rather go with the running back.
Speaker 1: But admittedly I'm kind of scared. I'll throw it your
Speaker 1: away now, Mike, because I know you are. You are
Speaker 1: the Todd Gurley guy. In fact, I think the last
Speaker 1: time we had you on we were talking about Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley as well. Yeah, not much has changed. I wrote
Speaker 1: this article like a month or two ago, like pass
Speaker 1: him Todd Gurley if you want to lose it fantasy,
Speaker 1: and some people didn't read it, and we're like, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna take him over David Johnson and Sae Kwon Barkley,
Speaker 1: and I was like that that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that at where he's going now, you I
Speaker 1: think to take another running back over him after we
Speaker 1: get you know, past the James Conners and then Levy
Speaker 1: on bells of the world, because I have Girly after that,
Speaker 1: I think you're making a mistake. Like Joe Mixon has
Speaker 1: missed multiple games each of the last two seasons. Jonah
Speaker 1: Williams is out for the year. A j Green, he
Speaker 1: may miss a quarter of the season. Who knows how
Speaker 1: he'll be when he comes back. Andy Dalton has missed
Speaker 1: time the last couple of years. That offensive line isn't
Speaker 1: as good as the Rams, the offensive play calling isn't
Speaker 1: as good as the Rams, the quarterback isn't as good
Speaker 1: as the Rams, the receivers around him aren't as good
Speaker 1: as the Rams, and most importantly, the offensive scheme is
Speaker 1: not built like the Rams. Is the Rams going to
Speaker 1: be a high It could be it cannot tayor it
Speaker 1: will not be what Sean McVeigh and the Rams have there.
Speaker 1: And even if Girley, you know, plays of the snaps
Speaker 1: like they're saying, that still started workload. Last year there
Speaker 1: was not many guys playing seventy plus percent of the
Speaker 1: snaps and I in my article, I wrote it out
Speaker 1: if he gets seventeen touches per game, even if you
Speaker 1: lower his efficiency in recent the last two years combined,
Speaker 1: he's averaged one point one five PPR points per touch.
Speaker 1: If you lower that all the way down to one
Speaker 1: and he gets seventeen touches per game, he still would
Speaker 1: have been the RB eight last year. So the upside.
Speaker 1: The downside I think is he if he plays as
Speaker 1: long as he doesn't miss a lot of time, he's
Speaker 1: going to be a top ten back. I feel super
Speaker 1: confident with that. And the upside is that he's not
Speaker 1: only the RB one, he's head and shoulders above every
Speaker 1: other running back, like he is the first player to
Speaker 1: lead the running back position and points back to back
Speaker 1: seasons since LT like he he was the I don't
Speaker 1: understand he finishes the RB three last year, but in
Speaker 1: terms of points per game that I don't think there
Speaker 1: was a running back within two of him, So like
Speaker 1: he was so far ahead of everyone else that I
Speaker 1: think the ceiling is a lot higher, and unless he
Speaker 1: misses a bunch of time, the floor is too. Because
Speaker 1: let's be honest, if there's any position where you're drafting,
Speaker 1: and you're accepting that there is an injury risk in
Speaker 1: any sport, it's running back. These guys missed the most
Speaker 1: amount of time. Joe Mixon has misstime, Doalvin Cook has
Speaker 1: miss time in recent years, et cetera. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: making the case for Todd Gurley, and he would be
Speaker 1: I don't have to take him in my first round,
Speaker 1: but he would be in my first round. Mike, you
Speaker 1: mentioned all the stuff that Gurley has that Joe Mixon doesn't,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to mention something that Joe Mixon has
Speaker 1: that Todd Gurley doesn't, and that is two legs. He's
Speaker 1: missed multiple times with knee injury in the last two seasons.
Speaker 1: So is that true? Any misstime in college? And the
Speaker 1: thing with Todd Gurley that I keep going back to
Speaker 1: is all the reports were clickbait in my opinion, like
Speaker 1: there was nothing new. It was never, oh, this has
Speaker 1: happened now. It was always Gurley's gonna be limited. They're
Speaker 1: worried about his knee. They want him to hold up
Speaker 1: for the playoffs, and I'm fine with him sitting out
Speaker 1: the preseason. In fact, I'm cool with that he's still
Speaker 1: gonna be practicing. I just don't want him to use
Speaker 1: those valuable reps and risk getting injured in the preseason.
Speaker 1: I'm totally fine with him not playing in those games.
Speaker 1: I And we've also heard a lot of positive reports.
Speaker 1: Sean McBey said nothing but positives. Todd Gurley himself has
Speaker 1: said positive stuff. M j D has said positive stuff.
Speaker 1: To be fair, they did say positive stuff. Of course
Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year and in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: last it did, and nobody knew what was going on.
Speaker 1: Remember I remember this very vividly. We're trying to set
Speaker 1: DFS lineups, even you know, Fantasy championship lineups. We had
Speaker 1: no idea great. I mean, it was it was a
Speaker 1: toss up. We didn't know if it was gonna be
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, if it was gonna be C. J. Anderson,
Speaker 1: and we just had no idea it was. We all
Speaker 1: assumed that there was an underlying injury, which I guess
Speaker 1: we kind of found out, but we knew he was
Speaker 1: battling this knee thing. I mean, it's got to be
Speaker 1: pretty significant. I mean the fact that he just didn't
Speaker 1: play down the stretch, didn't play at times throughout the postseason,
Speaker 1: like during the Super Bowl when they need him most too,
Speaker 1: he played, but he almost split snaps evenly with c
Speaker 1: j Anders So I so definitely and I agree with
Speaker 1: obviously with all of that. But is it a significant
Speaker 1: enough injury and we know it, we've heard chronic arthritis,
Speaker 1: we've heard all that that like six months later, he's
Speaker 1: still not is there? So we know there's no surgery.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, I don't know that anyone knows
Speaker 1: the answer to that question, Greg, So it's kind of
Speaker 1: just like, but isn't that risk while let me go
Speaker 1: to let me bring you in on this, isn't that
Speaker 1: risk here at the top of the second round or
Speaker 1: or toward it well worth taking? I believe. So, I
Speaker 1: mean I've said this before, is like, if we think
Speaker 1: that that he's the only guy with arthritis in your
Speaker 1: in your the only guy with arthritis in his knee
Speaker 1: in the NFL, you're insane. Is that we're talking about
Speaker 1: it because he's interesting to talk about it. And my
Speaker 1: question to you guys, though, are you concerned that he's
Speaker 1: going to miss games? Because if that's the concern, I
Speaker 1: have that same concern with Doubt and Cook, I have
Speaker 1: that concern with a lot of these running backs. With
Speaker 1: Damian Williams, another guy I love, I have that concern,
Speaker 1: like he's never had this workload before. But I don't
Speaker 1: foresee a situation where Todd Gurley is phased out of
Speaker 1: this offense or where he's sparingly used all year. And
Speaker 1: even if let's say he averages like I keep saying
Speaker 1: the seventeen touches per game, I think he could lead
Speaker 1: the NFL and touchdowns again on seventeen touches per game.
Speaker 1: That's how much he's used in the red zone. And
Speaker 1: that's how good Sean McVeigh is with the running backs
Speaker 1: in the red zone. It was it was basically a
Speaker 1: Girly versus Mixing conversation, because I still have Girly ranked
Speaker 1: fifteenth overall, So it's not like I'm significantly down on him.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's just I would take Mixing. Time
Speaker 1: will tell whether or not you know that is uh
Speaker 1: correct or not. It's just my philosophy is, I'm just
Speaker 1: so scared, like I don't want to take someone that
Speaker 1: already has an injury concern, like like a legitimate one.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixing has miss games here there I understand that.
Speaker 1: I just I worry that it's not just games, Mike.
Speaker 1: I I I worry about like chunks of time, you know,
Speaker 1: like a month, didn't didn't mix and have m CEL surgery.
Speaker 1: Terris m cel last year and came back. He's come back,
Speaker 1: but he said he's had knee injuries. Now that's three
Speaker 1: years in a row. I think, going back to college.
Speaker 1: So he's not without concern either. A little bit younger
Speaker 1: youth is on his side, up that much younger. We'll see.
Speaker 1: I will tell time, we'll tell when do we come back.
Speaker 1: We need to also talk about the glaring hole in
Speaker 1: the second round. And his name is Melvin Gordy. What
Speaker 1: do you do with Melvin Gordon We'll try to answer
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Speaker 1: these running backs, the one name that we continually don't
Speaker 1: mention is Melvin Gordon of the Chargers, and Frank, you
Speaker 1: and I have talked a lot about this, but I
Speaker 1: want to throw it to Florida and Eric because I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's very sensitive. Frank, Floria, Sorry, I forgot
Speaker 1: all right, it's been a while. It's been a while. Um,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be our thing. Whenever we make a reference,
Speaker 1: we have to say where the references from. It's been
Speaker 1: a while, stained big Daddy. So Melvin Gordon holding out
Speaker 1: of training camp for the Charges, there's no indication he's
Speaker 1: showed up anytime him soon. We said yesterday, Frank, that
Speaker 1: is we think it will work. It's alf out, much
Speaker 1: like the Michael Thomas situation, work itself out. But Mike, Eric,
Speaker 1: there's been no indication that's Melvin Gordon thing. He's going
Speaker 1: to work itself out. If you were drafting today, e y,
Speaker 1: where would you feel comfortable drafting Melvin Gordon. I've got
Speaker 1: him outside of the first two rounds, um because of
Speaker 1: the contract thing. We've said this before in the show. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Chargers are famous for being cheap the
Speaker 1: front office. They did it last year. They did it
Speaker 1: with Ladamian Thomason. They did it with uh Jacksonvi's and
Speaker 1: Jackson a noo, they're doing it again with him. I mean,
Speaker 1: the reality is on gonna side, on the side of
Speaker 1: the player. Melvin Gordon is uh of an excellent to
Speaker 1: top five running back in the NFL um and deserves
Speaker 1: more money than what he's being paid, so he's going
Speaker 1: to hold out. UM. He secured enough seasons where he
Speaker 1: can get the free agency, so I think this is real.
Speaker 1: It's not the same kind of situation as is Zekil
Speaker 1: Elliott michael I. I struggle with this one a lot,
Speaker 1: like currently, and it depends on format and stuff. But
Speaker 1: he comes in pretty much around like RB eighteen nineteen
Speaker 1: for me, and that's behind guys like my tier four.
Speaker 1: He's in my tier four. I'm sorry, he's in my
Speaker 1: tier five right now, running back with guys like Marlon
Speaker 1: Mack and Leonard four Nette mark Ingram because I think
Speaker 1: the top fifteen backs, you know, ending with like Josh Jacobs,
Speaker 1: Jones and carry on. Johnson Like, I'd rather have those
Speaker 1: guys over him right now because they're a sure thing.
Speaker 1: They're a little bit more they're safer. And but why
Speaker 1: I keep struggling with this is because I moved Zeke
Speaker 1: from one in my rankings to four with this holdout potential,
Speaker 1: and I move with Melvin Gordon from six to like nineteen.
Speaker 1: It's a huge fall up. But I do think it's
Speaker 1: different like you I was saying, because I think Zeke
Speaker 1: is an elite talent. Uh he also and this is
Speaker 1: I know there's a whole notion of running backs don't matter,
Speaker 1: and I think that the narrative is starting to change
Speaker 1: a little bit this year, and it's something that I
Speaker 1: personally believe. I don't think rushing mad. If you are
Speaker 1: a running back who can be a dangerous pass catcher
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, I think you are uber valuable
Speaker 1: to your team. Like I think Christian McCaffrey Nolvin Kamara
Speaker 1: would be super hard to replace. I don't think you
Speaker 1: could just get another running back off the street. Whereas
Speaker 1: for the Russian attempts, I think it's a lot. It's
Speaker 1: a lot more on the line in the scheme and
Speaker 1: all that Zeke Elliott is an elite pass catcher, is
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon? Is Melvin Gordon an elite rusher has Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon ben a benefactor of having this great talent around
Speaker 1: him and you know, a great quarterback and and all
Speaker 1: that because before last year his yards per carry we're
Speaker 1: always very low. Plus the Cowboys backup is like Tony Pollard, right,
Speaker 1: who's a pass catching specialist. Alfred Morris. Yeah, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that. Whereas Austin Ekeler is. He's
Speaker 1: like an analytical darling, like everyone says Austin Ekeler, and
Speaker 1: it's true, like he stands out in so many of
Speaker 1: these advanced stats. Plus they really like uh Josh Jackson there.
Speaker 1: So I have a little bit more concerned with, like
Speaker 1: e Y does that the cow like the Cowboys I
Speaker 1: think will pay Zeke. I'm not confident at all that
Speaker 1: the will pay Melvin Gordon. And after seeing Levian Bell,
Speaker 1: I think Levian Bell really did change the NFL and
Speaker 1: he changed the way running backs think, and I think
Speaker 1: it's for the better. But for fantasy it makes it
Speaker 1: a lot frustrating. And for reference, I don't have him
Speaker 1: inside my top two rounds either. I did a best
Speaker 1: ball draft earlier today, Greg and he went in the
Speaker 1: early third round, So just to kind of give people
Speaker 1: an idea of how far Melvin Gordon is following right now.
Speaker 1: So I think that makes sense because the pact that
Speaker 1: I have Melvin Gordon is and I want to have
Speaker 1: above the one you were speaking about, Mike, because that
Speaker 1: gets me into the Nick Chubb, Damie Williams Doalvin Cook conversation,
Speaker 1: and I have him in this mix. Maybe I'm being
Speaker 1: silly and we're gonna cost myself and maybe ultimately when
Speaker 1: I do draft, I'll drop him down. But Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: is in this next year for me with Nick Chubb,
Speaker 1: with um, Damie Williams, with Domin Cook, Eric with Thurst.
Speaker 1: To you because you said Nick Chubb is in your
Speaker 1: first round measons, he's above all of these guys. How come, Um,
Speaker 1: I just believe in this offense. I believe Baker is
Speaker 1: going to be better. The addition of Odell com a
Speaker 1: top three, top five wide receiver in the league, the
Speaker 1: Jokus in the offense for another year, Callaway's in the
Speaker 1: offense for another year. Uh, Look, they're they're not going
Speaker 1: to be able to have guys down low in the
Speaker 1: box to defend this guy. He's a freak athlete. He
Speaker 1: can do everything. I was high on him last year
Speaker 1: and had him everywhere and ended up paying off in
Speaker 1: the long run, and I'm high on him now. I
Speaker 1: like Nick Chubb a lot greg The only hesitance that
Speaker 1: I have for him is a lot of us playing
Speaker 1: a half point or full point PPR least. I don't
Speaker 1: know how many catches he's going to pass. And it's
Speaker 1: not one of those situations where I don't think that
Speaker 1: he can be a pass catcher like a Jordan Howard.
Speaker 1: I think it's more like a Leonard four net situation.
Speaker 1: We said this about four net and then it turned out,
Speaker 1: oh wait, he can catch the ball. He's he's They're
Speaker 1: just not always used in that capacity. So I think
Speaker 1: that Nick Chubb can catch the ball, but I don't
Speaker 1: know that they're going to need him to. They have
Speaker 1: Jervis Landry, who can catch a lot of passes in
Speaker 1: the slot close to the line of scrimmage. Same thing
Speaker 1: could be said for David and Joku. And obviously now
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham is going to be there and he's the
Speaker 1: target monster. So and they have and they have Duke Johnson,
Speaker 1: who was one of the best pass catching running backs
Speaker 1: in the league. So for me, the only downside to
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb is the fact that I don't really think
Speaker 1: he's going to catch a lot of passes. But he
Speaker 1: can be a and I you know, I'll give you
Speaker 1: a visual for a second. He could beat Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: on steroids, which I can't really imagine Derrick Henry being
Speaker 1: bigger than he is from a fantasy perspective. He's going
Speaker 1: to rush for a lot of yards. He's going to
Speaker 1: score a lot of touchdowns for the reasons that e
Speaker 1: Y mentioned. He's in a really, really good offense. But
Speaker 1: I just worry that the receiving upside is capped here. Greg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I agree. So for me, Nick Chubb is not
Speaker 1: even the next running back on my list here. I
Speaker 1: agree with you. By the way, it's for me Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: I have Dalvin Cook next. I think you've talked a lot,
Speaker 1: Frank about Kevin Stefanski wanted to run the football on
Speaker 1: this offense being based around the run. I believe Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook should be the next running back off the board
Speaker 1: in the second round. And I actually think you can
Speaker 1: make the case that Nick Chubb is not even next
Speaker 1: after that because I think Damian Williams and Florida. You
Speaker 1: were the guy who was on Damian Williams last year.
Speaker 1: You picked him up like hey, I got a great keeper,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're an idiot. They're gonna replace him,
Speaker 1: and they have it every time they have tried to
Speaker 1: um give credit to Damian Williams and talk of Damian
Speaker 1: Williams they have and I know he's bad like a
Speaker 1: Hampshire right now in training camp it should be okay,
Speaker 1: But Damian Williams love seems real. So I have it
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, Damian Williams and then Nick Chubb to me,
Speaker 1: in like standard, I have Chubb ahead of Williams. But
Speaker 1: in PPR, yeah, I to me, I do have a
Speaker 1: little bit of concern about I mean, it's a rightful
Speaker 1: so concerned in the passing and that you guys have.
Speaker 1: I still think though that we do see Duke Johnson traded.
Speaker 1: The reports have been if they can get a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick for him, they will and no team has
Speaker 1: been willing to give that up yet. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: see injuries in training camp. We're gonna see teams like
Speaker 1: potentially like the Bucks, who I'm hoping that is the
Speaker 1: one who trades for a Duke Johnson but we could
Speaker 1: see him moved, Gregy, I know why you're excited and uh.
Speaker 1: I also think though, because Freddy galviss Homeward uh and
Speaker 1: is not Zack Gallant was traded. Oh whoa, No, it's not.
Speaker 1: I thought it was because Zack Wheeler was traded to
Speaker 1: as shows that just happened too that yet, But on
Speaker 1: the Nick Chubb thing, real quick, you guys didn't even
Speaker 1: mention my biggest concern. Kareem Hunt returns in week ten,
Speaker 1: and I think Kareem Hunt is the biggest waste of
Speaker 1: fantasy pick right now. But I think when Kareem Hunt
Speaker 1: does return, he will eat into Nick Chubb's work because
Speaker 1: I think this is a team with playoff aspirations. If
Speaker 1: I can be as bold as to say maybe even
Speaker 1: deep playoff aspirations. I think they're gonna want Nick Chubb
Speaker 1: healthy and it's gonna become a two headed monster once
Speaker 1: cream Hunt does come back. Where is that Wheeler thing?
Speaker 1: I think Andy Mortineo traded tweeted it out. All right, well,
Speaker 1: our two of this show is going to be completely
Speaker 1: been at it. A ton of baseball trades going on
Speaker 1: and I'm sure y was to strangle all of us
Speaker 1: right now. Never mind it was Arrio Cohen, the Fantasy
Speaker 1: Baseball writer quoted someone and I saw it real quick
Speaker 1: as I was talking about Chubb. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's accurate, though, Are you kidding me? M yeah,
Speaker 1: I have it. I have a Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb,
Speaker 1: and then me and Williams. I still like Damian Williams
Speaker 1: a lot, but I mean there is risk that he's
Speaker 1: been a journeyman in the NFL so far and he
Speaker 1: hasn't ever really handled a full workload. We saw last year.
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb did handle a full workload over the final
Speaker 1: ten games of the season, or so did it from
Speaker 1: Week fifteen throughout the playoffs like it was like a
Speaker 1: five game stretch. It was. But if you look at
Speaker 1: that he had of the snaps, and I believe he
Speaker 1: was averaging over eighteen touches per game. That's something that
Speaker 1: only a handful of running backs could say they did
Speaker 1: last year. Uh. And my thing is not this is
Speaker 1: what I keep saying, Like I have a video on
Speaker 1: it on fan tracks YouTube page. You can go out
Speaker 1: and check it out. I think you're making a mistake.
Speaker 1: If you value or look at what Damian Williams has
Speaker 1: done the last five, four or five years, however long
Speaker 1: he's been in the NFL, he you are not buying
Speaker 1: Damian Williams the player. I don't think. I look at
Speaker 1: it as you are buying the lead running back on
Speaker 1: an Andy re led team that also happens to be
Speaker 1: the best offense in football and and also the best
Speaker 1: offense for a has catching running back to playing. Like
Speaker 1: I said, Chiefs running backs last year average nine point
Speaker 1: five receiving yards per target. No other team was over
Speaker 1: eight point three since two thousands, So that shows you
Speaker 1: how efficient. That is why because they have a bunch
Speaker 1: of burners in in Hill, in Watkins and Kelsey. Now
Speaker 1: they have hard men. They have all these guys who
Speaker 1: can play downfield that the defense has to sell out
Speaker 1: to try and stop the deep ball. And if Damian
Speaker 1: Williams can catch and lower his head and run in
Speaker 1: open space, I think he's gonna pick yards up in chunks,
Speaker 1: and the teams like that. It's it's why Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: last year saw the fewest eight men in the box
Speaker 1: because teams like this, with these dynamic offense that spread
Speaker 1: the ball so much, teams have to worry about the
Speaker 1: passing offense, and teams are not going to game plan
Speaker 1: to stop Damian Williams. They're gonna game plan to stop
Speaker 1: Kelsey and Hill and Mahomes and his passing attack. That
Speaker 1: is why I'm so high on Mahomes. On Damian Williams
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Damian Williams himself. I would
Speaker 1: love if it was Carlos Hide, if it was Williams,
Speaker 1: whoever was the lead back for the Chiefs, I would
Speaker 1: be saying, I want this guy in my fantasy team.
Speaker 1: And I agree with that. It's kind of we're in
Speaker 1: a weird spot when we're trying to like nit pick
Speaker 1: these players because we're basically just splitting hairs, trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, oh, well, why do I like this running
Speaker 1: back over this running back. So that's the only reason
Speaker 1: why I was mentioning, you know, these things the downsides
Speaker 1: for Damian Williams. I still really like him, and Michael
Speaker 1: was right, you know, over that five game stretch last year,
Speaker 1: he was basically used, maybe not as a complete workhorse,
Speaker 1: but he was used a lot in the Chief's offense
Speaker 1: and to be the number one running back and Andy
Speaker 1: Reid offense on the best offense in football. I mean,
Speaker 1: that is a desirable position to be in. I have
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb one spot higher than Damian Williams just because
Speaker 1: he did it for a little bit longer last year.
Speaker 1: He did it for double the time. He did it
Speaker 1: for ten games rather than five games. And we saw
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb's upside last year. And for all the reasons
Speaker 1: that you just mentioned, you like Damian Williams, the Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns with Odell Beckham now on the field, and the
Speaker 1: fact that defenses have to factor, you know, worry about him,
Speaker 1: and they have to worry about in Joku and worry
Speaker 1: about land jury over the middle, worry about Callaway taking
Speaker 1: the top off the defense. There's gonna be so much
Speaker 1: room to run for Nick Chubb and he's just gonna
Speaker 1: finish off a lot of these drives scoring touchdowns. We
Speaker 1: saw it last year. Like Freddy Kitchens, once he came in,
Speaker 1: it was no nonsense. He was like, all right, Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb is the starting running back. That's it. And for me,
Speaker 1: I think that he is still going to score a
Speaker 1: lot of touchdowns and run for a lot of yards.
Speaker 1: But ultimately, if you play in PPR. I could see
Speaker 1: why you can make the argument for a Damian Williams
Speaker 1: over Nick Chubb, just because I don't know that Chubb
Speaker 1: is going to let's say, like his upside might be
Speaker 1: capped at like forty five recessions, maybe fifty. I saw
Speaker 1: I think I think it was Scott Barrett or maybe
Speaker 1: Scott Barrett quote tweeted it. But there was a big
Speaker 1: argument on Fantasy football Twitter the other day about like
Speaker 1: rushing attempts compared to receiving attempts, and I think it's
Speaker 1: like triple the value of running back receives in Fantasy
Speaker 1: points style on a target compared to a rushing attempt.
Speaker 1: That's why in standard I'm going Chubb, but in anywhere
Speaker 1: with a PPR, I have Damien Williams, like a spot high.
Speaker 1: I can't argue it. I can't argue it. I think
Speaker 1: it makes sense. I agree with you. That's how I reveal.
Speaker 1: So you have Williams, all right, so e y, e y,
Speaker 1: and myself we're on the side of Chubb versus Nick
Speaker 1: Damian Williams and you guys are you guys have anythings
Speaker 1: from week ten on with Kareem Hunt in the picture,
Speaker 1: Because I think touches for the playoffs, Like, I think
Speaker 1: they want to keep Chubb fresh, And I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody knows though I don't think honestly, I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody knows how Like it's in the back of your
Speaker 1: mind for sure, Like you don't have that lingering in
Speaker 1: the back of your mind when it comes to the
Speaker 1: Chiefs for the second half of the season. But and
Speaker 1: they obviously signed him for a reason. You mentioned this,
Speaker 1: Greg like even though knowing pr hit Like, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty big deal. They clearly are going to
Speaker 1: get him involved. Nobody knows how much it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: It could be five to seven touches, it could be
Speaker 1: eight to ten touches. It could be more than that.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows. But if Nick Chubb is crushing it in
Speaker 1: this offense, I don't think that he just sees this
Speaker 1: significant downtick and touches. There's two or three more players
Speaker 1: left in the second round. Three questions, three minutes, our
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Speaker 1: both Mike and e Y. We got about three spots
Speaker 1: left in our second round, so gentlemen, let's get right
Speaker 1: into it. Question. The next wide receiver off your board
Speaker 1: is who? Who? Who? Are we? Is this after like
Speaker 1: at the Tyreek Hill, Odell Becka, Michael Thomas and Jujia
Speaker 1: Uh Antonio brownad of Mike Evans. I had Mike Evans
Speaker 1: higher for a while, but yeah, I think Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: is still gonna see like a hundred and sixty targets,
Speaker 1: and I I think the ball is gonna be spread
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But I had them back to back,
Speaker 1: and to be honest, I keep going back and forth
Speaker 1: and flip flopping them. Why your next wide receiver off
Speaker 1: the board is go ahead and make fun of me
Speaker 1: about a MARII Cooper. Oh my god, he's just not
Speaker 1: gonna to the ball enough. It'll throw enough. If Zeke
Speaker 1: sits out, they will. I still don't think they will.
Speaker 1: I mean, it could be one of those situations where
Speaker 1: you know, although they don't throw the ball a lot,
Speaker 1: he just gets so much of the targets share, much
Speaker 1: like Michael Thomas in the Saints. Like that could that's
Speaker 1: the path to Amari Cooper being great, So I could
Speaker 1: see it. I don't think it's all that crazy e
Speaker 1: Y For me, it's Mike Evans. For me, it's Mike
Speaker 1: Evans as well. In fact, the rest of my second
Speaker 1: round is full of wide receivers. I haven't Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: Then I have Antonio Brown do you agree? Yes? And
Speaker 1: then I go to end the second round it's twenty
Speaker 1: three and twenty four, I go t Y Hilton and
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen in that order. This pomp from Frank, how
Speaker 1: do you end the round of Floria? How do you
Speaker 1: end to Greggy t Y and then Keenan Allen. Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. I like those guys. I like
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen a little bit more. In PPR like t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton a little bit more in half or standard.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if where is are we talking? Like? So
Speaker 1: the running backs all gone? It's after chubbing donmand Cook, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm cool with those receivers. It would be like the
Speaker 1: next running backs up would be Carrie on Johnson, Aaron Jones,
Speaker 1: that whole unless you like one of those players more.
Speaker 1: I saw Leonard Fournette go I pick fifteen today in
Speaker 1: a draft, and I almost through my phone out the
Speaker 1: window because that's just crazy. Who do you have? Ending
Speaker 1: the round? Eric? Round three? Round two? Oh geez um,
Speaker 1: it's a round uh Michael Thomas crazy? She shows you
Speaker 1: how ablody ranking everybody's rankings are differ. You know. Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas ends my first round, he ends e y second round.
Speaker 1: Speaking of ending, that's the end of our one the
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