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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is dej Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We

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Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club Justice on maternity leave you So,

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Speaker 3: Lonlosa is filling in, and we got some special guests

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Speaker 3: in the building. That's right, we got Matt Bondes and

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Speaker 3: Stephen Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Welcome fellas.

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Speaker 2: How y'all feeling good, good, tired but good.

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Speaker 4: Good, collectively known as All the Smoke podcasts? Right Their

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Speaker 4: new coffee table book is out right now, All the Smoke.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: You know, I always say, like, I know that there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of athletes who do podcasts and stuff. Now,

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Speaker 4: I don't know anybody before y'all. I feel like y'all

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Speaker 4: started that whole way. So to see y'all be the

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Speaker 4: first with a coffee table book, man, that makes so

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Speaker 4: much sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's been a blessed. It's been a journey. I mean,

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Speaker 2: our five year anniversary is tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 5: If you would have told me like five years later

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Speaker 5: we'd have a coffee table book, a whole production company

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Speaker 5: and people working underneath us, so how it would have

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Speaker 5: been like, you're full of shit? I didn't even know

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Speaker 5: what the podcast was at the time, So you know,

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Speaker 5: we're blessed to come together and find lightning in a

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Speaker 5: bottle and thankful for the opportunities and obviously being able

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Speaker 5: to partner with you and your your your company and

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Speaker 5: be able to get this done was dope.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know that. Bro. Fass out

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Speaker 2: to you. A lot of our success, you know, a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff that we have going on.

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Speaker 6: You brought our way and you thought about us, even

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Speaker 6: with black effects, So we appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know that. So we got

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Speaker 2: to give you a props to.

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Speaker 4: All of my brothers, how did this come about? Through

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Speaker 4: this just for a podcast? Like I know y'all was

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Speaker 4: partner to go.

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Speaker 5: I think I think Jack retired maybe one or two

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Speaker 5: years before me and we both got out and we're

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Speaker 5: doing ESPN and Fox and getting positive feedback and people

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Speaker 5: said we needed to do something together. And we were

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Speaker 5: at my house in the Bay one time smoking and

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Speaker 5: I'm just like, you want to do a podcast?

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Speaker 2: And he's like, sure, what is it? I was like,

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Speaker 2: I don't really know, but.

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Speaker 5: I think we can drink and smoke because we were

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Speaker 5: working ESPN and Fox. You know, you got to kind

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Speaker 5: of walk that line. So it was just a little

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Speaker 5: bit more to our comfort zone. And he said, yeah,

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Speaker 5: So I started doing the homework and we landed here.

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Speaker 1: We landed the showtime, and you interviewed so many, so

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Speaker 1: many people. Who are some of your favorite people that

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Speaker 1: you guys have interviewed in the past.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm a I'm a big hip hop guy,

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Speaker 6: and the comedy guys, so the comedians and the rap

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Speaker 6: artists like Lil Wayne. Having Kevin Hard on the show,

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Speaker 6: you know, been able to laugh at them. I think

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Speaker 6: Jamie Foxx we was home during COVID episode, man, I

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Speaker 6: think everybody needed that was so and we had the

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Speaker 2: That's always my favorite.

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Speaker 5: I just think, you know, being a like you guys

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Speaker 5: are trusted voice in the space is important.

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Speaker 2: You know, for us to start with j R.

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Speaker 5: you know, Will Smith, Jada, Jada, Pink and Smith. I

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Speaker 5: so many voices is you know something I prought myself.

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Speaker 4: On I think athletes didn't have a safe space before

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Speaker 4: before y'all, especially in NBA players because we can't speak

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Speaker 4: the language y'all speaking. So it causes them to open

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: We were ee emotions on the sleeve and everything we've

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Speaker 6: I think when I guess see that it's easy for

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Speaker 6: them to open up too. Kamala was your most recent

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Speaker 5: Kim Noah after her, But yeah, Kamala was, yeah, a

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Speaker 1: And how was that? I know you're a little reluctant

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Speaker 6: Oh no, you know that I called him and talked

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Speaker 1: You don't want to do it at first.

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Speaker 6: Nah, because I really don't want to get in politics.

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't even want to be involved, and

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Speaker 6: a lot of people that support me don't get involved.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: I look at it the same way I look at it,

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Speaker 6: but as a friend and as a brother to him.

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Speaker 6: You know, anything that that that he asks me to

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Speaker 6: do something. You know, nine or ten times, I'm lord

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Speaker 6: to a fault, you know what I'm saying, even if

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Speaker 6: it's something I don't want to do. But I know

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Speaker 6: it was beneficial for our company. I know it's benefit

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Speaker 6: and I see that after I did the interview. I

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Speaker 6: I have eight aunts, six daughters, you know, so I

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Speaker 6: glad I did it now because they all look at

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad I did it.

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Speaker 7: How did you guys prepare for her?

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Speaker 5: A lot of studying, a lot of smoke in the

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Speaker 5: But I want to take it back before I get

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Speaker 5: to your question. You know, when he said he didn't

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Speaker 5: when he said he didn't want to get involved with

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Speaker 5: that was his choice because once he did that George

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Speaker 5: So I'm glad he decided to come around. It took

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 5: So she came in the room, and then she took

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Speaker 2: Art and sculptures. And Jack was still tough, like, I

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Speaker 5: And then he saw this one piece of already liked

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Speaker 2: So we were straight.

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Speaker 4: So it took a minute.

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Speaker 7: Did she know that you didn't want to do it?

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Speaker 5: She had a little bit, She had somebody to show

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Speaker 5: strategy with this interview was it wasn't a political interview.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't all the smoke interview. We happened to ask

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Speaker 4: The biracial question and the question about the blended family

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Speaker 4: connected with her. She could there's no script for that. Now,

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Speaker 5: Got to be and that's what we wanted, you know,

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Speaker 5: And and and biracial and step step parents we both are,

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Speaker 4: And that's all telling Jack. So I'm like, yo, if not,

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Speaker 4: you didnt who because you know, if you got an

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Speaker 5: But I also think too. I mean, she could have

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Speaker 1: But I love the fact that she came in. I

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know, she needs to do where

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Speaker 3: see her do more stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a little bit of conversations with her, like off

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Speaker 7: of the air, like were there things that y'all talked about?

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Speaker 7: Offer were you like to have?

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Speaker 2: I asked her.

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Speaker 5: She know, because I knew that the the Vice President

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Speaker 5: that's when we got kind of started talking about the

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Speaker 5: art and stuff she's done to the house to kind

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Speaker 5: of put her put her energy around it. What else

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Speaker 5: we talked about, Actually, I feel like the last three

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Speaker 5: we caught some of it just it was a back

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Speaker 6: You know, do you remember what we were talking about

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Speaker 6: the very end we was talking about what she asked

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Speaker 6: about Gianna, We talked about the war.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, being there you know we played, Yeah, we believe.

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Speaker 1: Did y'all smoke before y'all got there?

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Speaker 5: I did, of course, I'm now, Yeah, it was too

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Speaker 1: It could be something that y'all did four years ago.

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Speaker 2: People the whole ride there though, yeah, oh yeah, we

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Speaker 5: He was like a drill sergeant with it. But you

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Speaker 4: It was Kobe, a Scooper or a Scooper or a score.

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Speaker 6: He was definitely a hoopo. Okay, yeah, he was a

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Speaker 4: Who People got mad at you when you said that,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because a lot of those people who got mad

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Speaker 2: People only get mad when they're guilty of it. You

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Speaker 6: It's a lot of guys that were built and came

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Speaker 2: You did.

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Speaker 6: Then I'll knock you out. But Kobe, like, that's just competition.

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Speaker 2: Like I was tired of that ship, you know what

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Speaker 5: And I keep getting called foulst for retaliating, So I'm like,

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Speaker 4: That's how y'all got cool, he said. But he said,

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Speaker 5: He called me that, so I was actually my deal

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Speaker 2: And I got a cold.

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Speaker 5: He said, what you said, He's just like, you want

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Speaker 2: Three days later, I was a Laker.

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: We see Brownie played the last two games and people

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Speaker 6: A beautiful I showed. We got in the car with

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think if anyone deserves this opportunity

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Speaker 2: And I was. I was.

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Speaker 5: doesn't even make it. So all these crazy expectations for

444
00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,760
Speaker 5: him earlier ridiculous, like allow him to develop, But you know,

445
00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,480
Speaker 5: we don't live in a world where development is allowed,

446
00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,680
Speaker 5: especially on the highest level. So I think from a

447
00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,680
Speaker 5: father's son aspect, is incredible. But you know, the Lakers

448
00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,440
Speaker 5: are one of those teams where you got to produce

449
00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,880
Speaker 5: what have you done for me lately? And they haven't

450
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Speaker 5: necessarily done that. So it's going to be interesting, you know,

451
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Speaker 5: scrutinage year.

452
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Speaker 7: I think we were talking about that earlier. Do you

453
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Speaker 7: think that Brownie will actually have the chance to develop?

454
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Speaker 7: But you feel like people going to pigeonhold him so

455
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Speaker 7: much that it might get you have.

456
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Speaker 6: Even more of a chance to develop because his father's death,

457
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,560
Speaker 6: Like that's the motivation to have and he's seeing what

458
00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,680
Speaker 6: it takes to be great. So all that is in

459
00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,560
Speaker 6: him already, and now he's in the in the in

460
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Speaker 6: the facilities where you have everything here to be great.

461
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Speaker 6: I think, I think, yes, everything you need. And I

462
00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,400
Speaker 6: think he's definitely gonna blost mover.

463
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Speaker 5: And I also think too, I mean, I don't think

464
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Speaker 5: you look at Bronnie in the same light as you

465
00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:23,640
Speaker 5: look at lebron. I just think I think he's going

466
00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,320
Speaker 5: to be a very solid role player. I mean, he's

467
00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,200
Speaker 5: got a high high i Q place defense, can make

468
00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,200
Speaker 5: the right play, can shoot the ball. So I just

469
00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,160
Speaker 5: think he needed a little bit more time to develop,

470
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Speaker 5: and now he's developing on the biggest stage. But I think,

471
00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,720
Speaker 5: you know, two three, four years, he's going to be

472
00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,720
Speaker 5: a very solid rotational player.

473
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Speaker 1: Does he starting a leg or do you think there's no?

474
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Speaker 5: I think he should. To me, it's about playing. You know,

475
00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,440
Speaker 5: I play with JJ and I fuck with j J heavy.

476
00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,760
Speaker 5: I think he's you know, he's gonna be on the

477
00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,080
Speaker 5: hot seat. But I like his mentality. He's very he teaches,

478
00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,200
Speaker 5: he's he's a personable person. So for all the people

479
00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,800
Speaker 5: say no, that like the most important thing is getting

480
00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,640
Speaker 5: to play. You don't learn ship from sitting on the

481
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,080
Speaker 5: bench and watching. So Bronni has to play. So whether

482
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,960
Speaker 5: that's going to be eight to ten minutes in the

483
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Speaker 5: real game or if it's going to play thirty minutes

484
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,600
Speaker 5: on the G league level, I think he just needs

485
00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,520
Speaker 5: to play, and I think they'll figure that out.

486
00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,000
Speaker 6: You can't simulate the NBA in the G League, though,

487
00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,680
Speaker 6: you got to play in the NBA. They understand the

488
00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,680
Speaker 6: NBA pacing game.

489
00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,760
Speaker 2: The D League is totally but you just have to

490
00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,879
Speaker 2: play though. Yeah, I mean it can get you ready,

491
00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,080
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's harder to be successful day.

492
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Speaker 6: But to be successful and to make a name for

493
00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,119
Speaker 6: yourself in the NBA, you know what I'm saying, You

494
00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,560
Speaker 6: have to learn how to play that game.

495
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt will be considered success.

496
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Speaker 6: But Brianni fifteen fourteen year career a long career, you

497
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Speaker 6: know in the NBA. I mean that would say we

498
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Speaker 6: not expect him to score fifty thousand points, you know

499
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Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

500
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Speaker 2: We expect him to be a star and possibly be

501
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Speaker 2: an All Star one day.

502
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Speaker 3: I got to ask, you know, since since we are

503
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Speaker 3: in New York. New York just made a trade that

504
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Speaker 3: sent Cat here.

505
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Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on that trade?

506
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Speaker 2: Wonderful?

507
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Speaker 6: I know y'all happy, Yeah we got some. I love

508
00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,320
Speaker 6: Jordis rounder, but I take care of him any day,

509
00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,960
Speaker 6: you know. And Cat is way more durable. We lose

510
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,600
Speaker 6: a shoot it though, you lose a shoot it, but

511
00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,760
Speaker 6: but he does way more than just shoot, can't he does?

512
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,720
Speaker 6: And then and in the East too. I think a

513
00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,520
Speaker 6: big guy like that that can spread the floor on

514
00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,240
Speaker 6: this team. I think him and Be go at it

515
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,360
Speaker 6: to the next scrap one time.

516
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Speaker 2: That's gonna be. You know, I'm adult. I like dogs.

517
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Speaker 5: So obviously seeing Devincenzo and Julius Randall leave, you know,

518
00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,560
Speaker 5: kind of like you know what I mean, because I shot.

519
00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,800
Speaker 5: You know, they're they're trying to put something together.

520
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,440
Speaker 2: They put the whole.

521
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,760
Speaker 6: Replace that, replace that man.

522
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Speaker 2: On I'm not mistaken. He hit the most threes and

523
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Speaker 2: NIX history.

524
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Speaker 1: Yes, it helps us out people.

525
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now he's a very solid role player, definitely.

526
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:54,440
Speaker 5: I definitely feel like now, so I think Cats really

527
00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,480
Speaker 5: going to help this team. If he's three level. Cat

528
00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 5: not just to staying outside and shooting jumpers all day.

529
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Speaker 5: And I think this fan basic won't allow some of

530
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,400
Speaker 5: the stuff he was doing in Minnesota where he would

531
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Speaker 5: settle a lot because he is so skilled and talented

532
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,120
Speaker 5: and can score on all three levels, and there's a real,

533
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 5: real problem. But I think sometimes he settles. But I

534
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,000
Speaker 5: think he's coming into a situation that's not only good

535
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,440
Speaker 5: for him, but you know, his fiance or his girl,

536
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 5: because you know, she's kind of into things too. So

537
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 5: being in this media market is going to be very

538
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 5: beneficial for him if he attacked it the right way.

539
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Speaker 2: I feel like, isn't this family from ye? Yeah?

540
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I wish both sides good luck. I'm inested

541
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,400
Speaker 5: to see too how Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall get along,

542
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 5: because that's two dogs right there, so to see how

543
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 5: the how their chemistry works.

544
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Speaker 4: You know what I want to ask you about, Jack,

545
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 4: that the Malice in the Palace died, right, man, I

546
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 4: didn't realize how much that situation impacted y'all.

547
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

548
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 4: You think you think about Yes, y'all could have want

549
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 4: to chip that.

550
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Speaker 6: I think that was a year for us to win

551
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 6: the Chippy. If you look when lebro happened and we

552
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 6: probably had the second or best record in the league.

553
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,919
Speaker 6: When it happened, and we was blowing everybody out, and

554
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 6: I think we all knew that that was Reggie's last hurrah,

555
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Speaker 6: you know, we want to win it for him. But

556
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 6: like I said, it wasn't the same I missed. I

557
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 6: missed with two or three All Star Games because of

558
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 6: that Jermaine. Jermaine was a shoe in Hall of Famer

559
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,400
Speaker 6: around their time to that happened. And Ron was possibly

560
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 6: the first you know, can win Defensive Player and Office

561
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 6: in MVP in the same year. So all those things

562
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 6: were working for us in that one incident killed everything.

563
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 4: And it didn't and it didn't bring It didn't seem

564
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 4: like it brought y'all together, not all of y'all.

565
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 6: It didn't because everybody didn't do it for Law to

566
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Everybody went in that situation

567
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 6: for Law till some people was in it because they

568
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 6: was there, you know what I mean. I actually rolled

569
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 6: with my teammate for you know, for being a good teammate.

570
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,479
Speaker 6: A lot of guys just in there doing stuff that

571
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 6: wasn't necessary, you know, and uh it cost us that season.

572
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Speaker 4: How many times did that happen to you in your life?

573
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 4: Day were you just I don't give this my guy,

574
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 4: We're going at you. You you going to war, I'm

575
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 4: going to walk.

576
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 6: I'm low to a fault, I'm long to a fault.

577
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 6: But you know what I'm saying. But like I could

578
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 6: sleep that way. You know what I'm saying, we go

579
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 6: somewhere right now. So I'm mightna be the first one

580
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 6: to jump out. That's just how I was taught, That's

581
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 6: how I was raised. But you know, as you get older,

582
00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 6: you get smarter.

583
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Speaker 4: Is that one of the things that you you regret

584
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 4: that season, like how all of that played out?

585
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I regret it because you know, I was a

586
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 6: consider myself a real good basketball player, and I missed

587
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 6: a lot of All Star games like accolades because of that.

588
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 6: You know, even when I had great seasons, that still

589
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 6: was a cloud over my over my great play.

590
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 2: And it hurt it Ron too and Jamaine. So it

591
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 2: definitely wasn't benefics for none of us.

592
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Speaker 4: Was it tough to do that, doc, Like just to

593
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 4: sit there and after we live all of it.

594
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it was the reason why I was.

595
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Speaker 6: It wasn't tough because it was grat gratifying for getting

596
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 6: some money for talking about it. You lost so much

597
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 6: for one punch, like, let me get some money back

598
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 6: for talking about it. You do more than one punch

599
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 6: what I threw two.

600
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,959
Speaker 2: That's it. I'm glad you said that right now.

601
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 6: This is why I said I shouldn't have got fined.

602
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 6: When it all happened, I jumped up and went over

603
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 6: the stanch. I went six rolls up, didn't hit nobody,

604
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 6: got to run. A bear was thrown in his face

605
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 6: the second time, and that's the guy. When I turn around,

606
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 6: a guy was holding wrong punching him. I hit him.

607
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 6: I didn't. If I was just wanted to be stupid,

608
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 6: I could have hit everybody those six rolls up. But

609
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 6: I went to protect him, so I wasn't really don't

610
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 6: know idiot stuff, you know what I'm saying. I was

611
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 6: just being a protector. But it just turned out to

612
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 6: look that way. So if you look at it, I didn't.

613
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 6: I could have hit a whole bunch of people.

614
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Speaker 2: I didn't. The man didn't get loose, as.

615
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 4: I wasn't been watching the evolution in marijuana in the NBA.

616
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Speaker 2: I was beautiful.

617
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Speaker 6: I think I think we don't get enough credit for it,

618
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 6: you know, because to be able to play in the

619
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Speaker 6: NBA now and not get tested like you don't know.

620
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 6: We went through job and we were paying people and

621
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Speaker 6: all kind of drinking, all kind of stuff, justice and

622
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 6: do all kinds of stuff just to be able to smoke.

623
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Speaker 6: So now they can, you know, do it freely. I mean,

624
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Speaker 6: I know a lot of guys that might not talk

625
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 6: about it publicly, but I know they appreciate, you know,

626
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 6: being able to smoke and and and relax after the

627
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 6: game the right way without taking all them pills and shit.

628
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, when I retired in seventeen, that

629
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Speaker 5: was one of my main focuses being the shield for

630
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Speaker 5: the current guys. And you know, myself and my brother

631
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Speaker 5: Herring team were flying out here to New York to

632
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 5: talk to the players Sociation in the league and just

633
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 5: understanding the plant, study the plant until they both got

634
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 5: you know, people on both sides to start studying it.

635
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 5: And from what I heard that the NBA was really

636
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 5: against it, still the PA was more for it, and

637
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 5: they had to come to a common ground and they

638
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 5: ended up doing that, you know obviously in the bubble

639
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 5: when you know, with the COVID hit and they gave

640
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 5: the players time off and then they brought everyone back

641
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 5: to the bubble. If they would have tested that, probably

642
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 5: eighty five percent of the league would have failed because

643
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 5: guys were off, didn't know if the season was going

644
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 5: to come out, and the majority of the guys you know, medicated,

645
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 5: So you know, I think there was a very smart

646
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Speaker 5: move for them to co and bypass it there and

647
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 5: then after that it was gone.

648
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Speaker 2: So I think I say all that to say it's

649
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Speaker 2: it was.

650
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 5: It was tough smoke in our entire career because it

651
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 5: was you know, every time we did it, we were

652
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 5: risking fines or suspensions. So it was a real job

653
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 5: to smoke in the league. And now, like Jack said,

654
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 5: just to be able to freely do it, to relax,

655
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 5: go to lead, focused, anti inflammatory, all the properties for it.

656
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 5: I think it's I'm happy for those guys, but.

657
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Speaker 7: You are trying to have the conversations then though, like, yo,

658
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 7: this is what this is what's helping us, right, Yeah, he.

659
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 5: Did the conversations needed to happen, But I think my

660
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 5: conversation when I started talking was after the fact because

661
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Speaker 5: it was just so like they didn't want to hear

662
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 5: that shit, you know what I mean. It just it

663
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 5: was something you couldn't do, you know what I mean.

664
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Speaker 5: So I think as as the world progressed and we

665
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 5: started getting you know, research behind the positives instead of

666
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 5: just the negatives, I think that's when the game started

667
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 5: to change.

668
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: Could you physically play high? Cause I'd be reading these

669
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 4: stories about Michael and might they used to be drinking.

670
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: But why then going to drop.

671
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Speaker 2: Fifty before I play or not? I just smoke exactly

672
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Speaker 2: before the game.

673
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Speaker 6: But that day early in the morning, probably, yeah, I

674
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 6: probably did, but not going to the game. I didn't

675
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 6: came down, but like going to the game fresh off

676
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Speaker 6: one absolutely not.

677
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: Not in the NBA, you getting cooked. Yeah.

678
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 5: I know a couple of dudes that that that smoked

679
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 5: driving into the gym. We won't say them names, but

680
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 5: they was different. So I mean, I could smoke, you

681
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 5: know a few hours before, but I wouldn't smoke on

682
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 5: the way to the game one because I didn't want

683
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 5: to smell like it around everybody. But too, it's just like,

684
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 5: depending on what you're smoking, you're putting yourself out out

685
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Speaker 5: there in the atmosphere sometimes.

686
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Speaker 6: So I was geeked up in the Western Conference finals

687
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 6: though light Yeah, I guess Dallas, I was geeked up.

688
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 6: We smoked before the game. I smoked right after shoot around,

689
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 6: like three hours for the game, and I didn't go

690
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 6: to sleep, So I was just geeked up doing the game.

691
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 6: Like certain times you don't take that nap you loaded,

692
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 6: and I did in the West Conference final because I

693
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 6: was from texts.

694
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,239
Speaker 2: I was just feeling good at the time and went

695
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: to work. What worked for me?

696
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 4: What was the process of putting this book together? Like,

697
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: how did y'all choose which conversations to put.

698
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: In the shutdaling?

699
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously, yeah, you and the company, and then dealing

700
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 5: just understanding you know, where we the caliber of guests

701
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 5: we had, and the different topics we spoke on. You know, again,

702
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 5: there's a ton of people in this space now as

703
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 5: far as sports, but I don't look as it as competition.

704
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 5: I think everyone had their own journey and their own

705
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 5: voice and their own experiences, and I think we still

706
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 5: think with all the conversations we had, our conversation is

707
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 5: still different from everybody else's so just important, you know, family,

708
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 5: mental health, you know, everything that comes along in this journey.

709
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 5: And and you know, we've been able to transition from

710
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 5: not just a sports show to just kind of a

711
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 5: more of a culturally relevant show, you know, where we're

712
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 5: talking to the Kevin's and the Wills and the Jada's

713
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 5: and the Jamis and and the VP. So I just think,

714
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 5: you know, high level conversations with high level people, and

715
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 5: you know, being able to be celebrated with that. I mean,

716
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken with the first podcast with the

717
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 5: coffee table book man, so I think it's it's it's

718
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 5: a tremendous opportunity. We're very thankful for it and and

719
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Speaker 5: hope that everyone checks it out.

720
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Speaker 4: I named a couple of names. Don't you tell me

721
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 4: what your thought of the interview is? Don Staley, Uh, well,

722
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 4: a lot of people don't know.

723
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Speaker 6: That's when I've been with my favor my favorite female

724
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 6: player of all time, my rookie year I wore twenty

725
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 6: four because of Don State.

726
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: People don't know that.

727
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, and when I was in New Jersey, so it

728
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 6: was a honor to me to baby talk to her.

729
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 6: You know, I never met in person, so I can't

730
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 6: wait to actually take a picture of it.

731
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: But somebody I have mine for a long time.

732
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Speaker 4: That's different, Like, what what about her? You know, I've

733
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 4: never heard of guyfeeld woman basketball playing something like that,

734
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: Like what about her influenced well, her.

735
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Speaker 6: Whole swag, Like she she he had their rough park

736
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 6: basketball style and she was one of the first females

737
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 6: to bring it like AI.

738
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: You know, she woke back a short how she did

739
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: it her way. She talked to talk, walk.

740
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 6: To walk, and you didn't see that from a woman

741
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 6: in basketball growing up. And then she was at a

742
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 6: school that was the female school, that was always on TV.

743
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 6: The basketball game was always on TV. So that's what

744
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 6: we say. So that's what I've seen a lot or.

745
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 5: Not same, I mean, just being a fan of her

746
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: game and then how she's been able to transition and

747
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 5: be a leader of young women and women. I'm always

748
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 5: a big fan of that. So, you know, being able

749
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 5: to get to talk to her and to me honestly,

750
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 5: and I'm sure you guys probably feel the same way.

751
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 5: Like we're fans of a majority of the people we

752
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 5: talked to, and getting a chance to get that in depth,

753
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 5: you know, to be able to peel back the layers

754
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 5: and understand who they are as a person and how

755
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 5: their upbringing brought them to be the people they are.

756
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 5: I mean, that's always the joy and the journey of

757
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 5: these conversations.

758
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 4: For me, about the Jamie Foxx convo that happened during a.

759
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 5: Cool Yeah, we laughed so hard before we even got

760
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 5: on air. Bro it was incredible. He was funny as hell.

761
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 5: Jamie's great. I mean to me, Jamie's one of the

762
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 5: most talented people this planet's ever seen. This versatility across

763
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 5: several different front it is amazing on top of him

764
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 5: just being a really good dude man.

765
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: So that was. That was a dope conversation.

766
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Speaker 6: You have a lot of comedians that's funny when they're

767
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 6: doing their work.

768
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: A lot of them. Some of them ain't naturally fun

769
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

770
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Speaker 6: Jamis is naturally Like I said, like forty five minutes

771
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 6: before we returned the camera on Racking, he was in

772
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 6: wrath form like he was excited to be on the

773
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 6: show as well. So that was that was one of

774
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 6: the best ones.

775
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Speaker 4: You know, Jack, you you've dealt with a lot of

776
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 4: grief over the last few years. Of course, George Floyd,

777
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: your brother, sister, how have you been dealing with that

778
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: that level of grief?

779
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: Uh?

780
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 6: Support system these guys, you know my mom and sister.

781
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: Uh, it's been hard, but you know it's a part

782
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: of life. Bro.

783
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 6: Too much is given much as required. You know, we

784
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 6: all go we all. I'm not going through nothing that halfy, y'all.

785
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 6: I haven't been through. But it gets to a point

786
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 6: where when it's somebody like his sister and brother, like

787
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 6: that's different. You know what I'm saying, Like that's that

788
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 6: that's different. So I haven't been the same, but it's

789
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 6: the day by day process. Absolutely, thanks fasking.

790
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

791
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 7: How did how did you guys know it was trying

792
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 7: to you talk a lot about transition, that it was

793
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 7: time to transition in and like lean into like okay,

794
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 7: the podcast, the merch like just the business side of things,

795
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 7: Like was that a switch? It probably was planning, But

796
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 7: when did you know, like, okay, it's tring to jump

797
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 7: the fence now.

798
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Man.

799
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Speaker 5: The reason why I left the NBA the first year

800
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 5: of a three year deal, I happened to win a

801
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 5: championship with Golden State and I wouldn't get against I

802
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 5: wasn't getting a chance to my kids, you know what

803
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 5: I mean. So you know, it was kind of a

804
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 5: perfect storm when we won a championship and I was

805
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 5: ready to move. So I was just kind of excited.

806
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: And I think sometimes how why athletes have a hard

807
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 5: time transitioning because they don't get to leave on their

808
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 5: own accord. Most of the time it's injuries or a

809
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 5: reputation or just teams don't want to fuck with you

810
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 5: no more. But you know, I was someone that just

811
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 5: you know, I was in the midst of a contract

812
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 5: and I'm just like, man, you know, this is the

813
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 5: blessing we won. I'm missing so much time with my sons,

814
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 5: my father first, so you know that was my transitioning reason.

815
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 5: And then once I transition, I'm like, damn, what's next.

816
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 5: You know, I had invested well and you know, had

817
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 5: some things move, but I knew I was still needed

818
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 5: to find something to do. And you know, media came

819
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 5: knocking for both.

820
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: Of us, and you know, we kind of ran with it.

821
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 5: So, I mean, Jack is the kind of guy that

822
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 5: you know, he trusts very few, so if you're in

823
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 5: this trust circle, he's going to listen to you. And

824
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 5: when I pitched them idea, he trusted me to run

825
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 5: with it and make it happen.

826
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Speaker 2: And you know that's what I was able to do.

827
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Speaker 4: I feel like even with sports networks, y'all, was before

828
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 4: y'all time on that too. It seemed like when y'all

829
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: was on it, they didn't want y'all to talk so freely,

830
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: especially you Jack. They didn't want you. It seems like

831
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: everybody could talk freely, No, but it seemed like they

832
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: didn't want you to.

833
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 6: We did it anyway, you know, we did it anyway.

834
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 6: You know, I'm you know, shout out to Wolves. But

835
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Speaker 6: I remember I was the first one to correct him

836
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 6: on TV. You know what I'm saying, Like people like,

837
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 6: damn he correct the roads. Yeah, because I got Jimmy

838
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 6: Butler right on speed y'all making stuff up. So like

839
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 6: we just being who we naturally are, you know what

840
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 6: I mean. And I think that's what kind of took

841
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 6: over when we was on TV and we did these shows.

842
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 6: You know, not too many basketball players come up he

843
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 6: and speak like that, and we was just being our

844
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 6: naturally self. He wasn't acting on put know, you know,

845
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 6: on camera then going out being somebody else.

846
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: We the same person on and off camera.

847
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 5: And I think too a big thing was you know

848
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 5: Stephen A. Smith and whether you hate him a love him,

849
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 5: I like Stephen A. Smith and he's been instrumental in

850
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 5: kind of my journey. We talked often, but he was

851
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 5: really big on stay off the weed and used to

852
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: say that shit all the time until I called him

853
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 5: on it and he listened to me. You know, I

854
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 5: called him out on social media after I seeing it

855
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 5: one too many times, and then I'm on first take,

856
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 5: you know, at right at the docks talking about weed

857
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 5: on ESPN like no one had ever done that before,

858
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 5: no athlete had ever done that before. So I think,

859
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 5: to Jack's point, it's just you know, having real conversations,

860
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 5: and I think people are always going to respect that.

861
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 5: And I remember a ton of times, and you know,

862
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: I was working for a Fox and ESPN at the time,

863
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 5: where you know there's certain well this is the topic,

864
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 5: you know, do you want to say this? I'm like, nah,

865
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 5: I don't want to say that.

866
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: You know, I don't.

867
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that. I don't talk like that. This

868
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 5: is how I'm going to say it, you know what

869
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 5: I mean. So, I mean, obviously I enjoyed my time

870
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 5: at both networks and it kept my name fresh and

871
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 5: it allowed other opportunities to happen. But you know, it's

872
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 5: it's a little different walking on that side of media

873
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 5: than it is on the media side that we landed.

874
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: On any of those networks getting it right, I think.

875
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: So, I think, you know, small production is getting it right. Yeah,

876
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: I think, you know.

877
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 5: I think there will always be those big engines, but

878
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think you need them anymore. You know

879
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 5: what I mean that the digital switch is on, the

880
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 5: athlete driven content is on, and entertainment jet like everyone

881
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 5: is experts that are now talking about it. Before there

882
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 5: was other people always talking about what they saw, whether

883
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 5: it be critics and music, television, film, or sports. But

884
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 5: now you actually have the people talking about it. So again,

885
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 5: I think there will always be the big Espns and

886
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 5: Foxes and all that kind of stuff, but you don't

887
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 5: necessarily need it anymore to get your point across, to

888
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 5: have a platform or to go viral.

889
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: I want to ask some basketball questions for y'all. Get

890
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: about of play Thompson. What you think about him leaving

891
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: the Warriors and you think it was time for him

892
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 3: to go?

893
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 6: I think it's a breath of fresh at for him.

894
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 6: I mean, some guys need that doing their career. You

895
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 6: know what I mean. You've played a service bop for

896
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 6: so long it's a bad feeling the body I ain't

897
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 6: won last couple of years, So a lot of times

898
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 6: they're going to try to find somebody to blame it on,

899
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 6: and it fell on Clay, you know what I'm saying,

900
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 6: which which is unfortunate because he's the reason why they

901
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 6: have a big part why to have all those championships

902
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 6: over there. But this is how this is how professional

903
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 6: sports goes. Yeah, this is how it goes. And I

904
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 6: think it's great for him because he's landed in the

905
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 6: spot where he can do what he do best with

906
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 6: tour the best one on one players ever and Kyrie

907
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 6: and Luca.

908
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: He could spot up and shoot jumpers.

909
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 6: So I think I think it's a great, great situation

910
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 6: for him because I've been in a situation where I

911
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 6: was somewhere and I needed to go to a different

912
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 6: team to be to flourish and be a better player.

913
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: When I came to Golden State, So that's kind of

914
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: the same for him.

915
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 6: Clay is a hooper hooper yeah, oh yeah, he played

916
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 6: on both ends.

917
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: D Rose retired.

918
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: Oh man, hurt my soul. Where's the fair World Tour?

919
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 6: Where's the where's the He deserves all that for me,

920
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying he's one of those guys.

921
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: Bro I think too.

922
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously as great as we saw, you know,

923
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 5: the injury slowed him down, But everything we're hearing from

924
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 5: is he as great as a player was, he's a

925
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 5: better person and you know that's always something that that's

926
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 5: important to us. Definitely looking forward up sitting down with

927
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 5: him one day. But I just think his impact on

928
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 5: the game, how pure.

929
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: And and and and.

930
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 5: And real he was, will you know, definitely be noted,

931
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 5: but you know, one of the greatest. I hate to

932
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 5: say what because obviously he gave us a lot while

933
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 5: he was here, was the youngest MVP of all time.

934
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 5: But I couldn't imagine seeing him be able to stay

935
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 5: who he was and get older and how much his

936
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 5: game would have grown and developed.

937
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: I think we missed out on something really special.

938
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 4: He never did gun.

939
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't.

940
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 6: But what touches to his character that I'm ad my

941
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 6: how he got his wife and his kids mother to

942
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 6: get along and coparing, how they do it like they

943
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 6: are mascots for that because they do it the right way.

944
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: So sim for that. Who he's what?

945
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: Is he a hoop boy?

946
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: Score d Rose?

947
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 6: Good question? The Rose a hoop. I didn't see a

948
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 6: lot of Chase down blocks. He competes on both. He's

949
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 6: a hoops.

950
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: Who's the face of the league when leaves, who's in?

951
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: And Steph Leeves?

952
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: Who's the next face of the league? I should say?

953
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 5: I think I think it might be by committee. I

954
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 5: think Anthony Edwards.

955
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: Is gonna be one face like Bron.

956
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 5: I think it'd be by committee. I think it'll be

957
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 5: I think it could be a little bit of Jason Tatum.

958
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 5: I think it could be some Luca. I think it

959
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: could be some Shay Gil, just.

960
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: Alexander Job if you get his mind right.

961
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 5: Victor women Yama, I think there's a lot of I

962
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 5: think the league is in a great place as far

963
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: as just young talent, you know, like we haven't seen

964
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 5: in a long time. But it's it's funny you said that,

965
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 5: because I wish people would just appreciate the journey more.

966
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 5: We're coming to the end of Bron and Steph and

967
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 5: Katie and what they've done and what they've meant for

968
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 5: this game, and still all the criticism and hate they

969
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 5: get it is just crazy. I mean, because one day

970
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 5: they're going to be here, but they're not going to

971
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 5: be in the game anymore, and people can be like, damn,

972
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 5: I miss them, and instead they're too busy trying to

973
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 5: criticize and talk shit about Bronnie and Katie's this and

974
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 5: stephf can't do that instead of just kind of enjoying

975
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 5: what they've been able to, you know, to bless the

976
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 5: world with w NBA.

977
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts this year? What a new excitement,

978
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: new life.

979
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes I ain't go fron it feels better than the

980
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: NBA is it's what's your thoughts on WNBA?

981
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: Can I'm talking to?

982
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 6: The women's game is pure, man, you know what I'm saying.

983
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 6: They all played the right way. You know, it's refreshing

984
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 6: to watch. It's good to see them start to get

985
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 6: their money and get the attention that they deserve. I'm

986
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 6: a hooper, so I'm all for you know, anybody that's hooping,

987
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 6: that's putting in that work, you know what I'm saying,

988
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 6: that's grinded all these years to get to the top.

989
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm happy that they're going to just do I think

990
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: the growth of the game is tremendous.

991
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 5: You know the fact that we're talking about it and

992
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 5: seeing it on ESPN and all the highlights and and

993
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 5: and you know, we're doing a piece that I'm excited

994
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 5: about on Angel Rees and Kaith and Clark and just

995
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 5: their dynamic that they brought to the game and the

996
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 5: vehicle of new fans they brought. And you've heard kind

997
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 5: of some of the good and the bad that have

998
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 5: come with that. You know, Angel spoke out on just

999
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 5: the negativity and the racism that will come from some

1000
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 5: fans and kind of using them.

1001
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: But is that normal though, because you know, it seems

1002
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: like that's normal in the league.

1003
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you guys have been called a million

1004
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: in one names.

1005
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely absolutely.

1006
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: In a fight.

1007
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 5: Utah, yeah, I just got in and then yeah that's

1008
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: back when you still had the space between your teeth.

1009
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

1010
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 6: I had had a cardboard cut out under the goal

1011
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 6: with me in a jail suit.

1012
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: Oh no, it was funny. It was funn game. It

1013
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: was funny too. We were all laughing.

1014
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 5: Yeah no, But I just I think the growth through

1015
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 5: the game is tremendous. I think it's going to continue

1016
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 5: to grow. It's got new eyeballs and new sponsorship and

1017
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 5: new money, and you know, we just want to continue

1018
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 5: to celebrate them. You know, I think it's been such

1019
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 5: a you know, a hit or missed with that, but

1020
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 5: just kind of understanding the lineage and where they are

1021
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 5: after twenty eight years. You know, it's arguably ahead of

1022
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 5: schedule over where the NBA was at year twenty eight.

1023
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 5: So again, I think the impact of these new young

1024
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 5: stars have brought a lot more eyeballs and attention. I

1025
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 5: hope they continue to carry it. You know, you got

1026
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 5: Juju coming down the pipeline. Who's a monster, so Paige, Yeah,

1027
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 5: So I think that league is going to continue to

1028
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 5: grow and flourish and and give something a lot of

1029
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 5: little girls, you know, something to look up to. You

1030
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 5: got to see it to believe it, you know what

1031
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 5: I mean. So you see that, you see Kamala wonder

1032
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 5: for presidency. I mean, you know, young girls or you know,

1033
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 5: it's a great time to look up and see all

1034
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 5: the greatness ahead of them.

1035
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 4: Can Joab bounce back? Y'all had a great all the

1036
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 4: smoke with job.

1037
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: Morel Yeah, of course he can.

1038
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 6: I mean that that was the whole thing when when

1039
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 6: when it happened, I was saying, like people like you

1040
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 6: can't make mistakes, you know what I'm saying?

1041
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: Like it happens.

1042
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 6: Everybody makes mistakes, they just don't make him on a

1043
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 6: level for everybody to see.

1044
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: So he definitely could bounce back, and I think he will.

1045
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: You know.

1046
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 6: I just think it's gonna take him to make some

1047
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 6: decisions too about the people he's around, because I've.

1048
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: Made the same mistake too that I'm saying.

1049
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 6: We make those mistakes because you know, we feel, you know,

1050
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 6: we gotta keep it real and all that at one point,

1051
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 6: but you got to get to the point where you're

1052
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 6: keeping it right, you know what I'm saying.

1053
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 2: I think I think he's there now.

1054
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 4: They don't let kids fuk up no more like y'all

1055
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 4: wouldn't be.

1056
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: Well. I just think too.

1057
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 5: You gotta think when we were sucking up coming up,

1058
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 5: there wasn't cameras on us constant we could suck up.

1059
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 5: I remember the stuff off I was doing in UCLA

1060
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 5: probably would have never made the NBA if I had

1061
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 5: cameras in my face. And then you know the early

1062
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 5: days in Golden State where we're out every single night

1063
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 5: drinking and smoking and every single city and fighting and

1064
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 5: doing god knows what, there was no cameras, you know

1065
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 5: what I mean. So as long as you could show

1066
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: up and play the game the next day, there wasn't

1067
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 5: an issue. But now everywhere you move, whether you're filming

1068
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 5: yourself or other people are filming you, there's cameras on you.

1069
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: So you just got to be cognizant of that.

1070
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: That's funny because you would hear that. You'd hear like,

1071
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 4: let you be like man, Matt Bums, be fucking people up.

1072
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 4: You be like Matt Bones, like Matt Box.

1073
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,479
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm saying.

1074
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 5: We used to get down a little bit. That was

1075
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 5: it back in my early days.

1076
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys for joining us. Man another one.

1077
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 7: I did, but I forgot it. Oh oh, we were

1078
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 7: talk about John. What's the biggest thing that you repeat

1079
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 7: all the time to the young players when they call

1080
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 7: y'all for like real life advice?

1081
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: Me now is control your control your own narrative. That's

1082
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: my thing. You know what I'm saying.

1083
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 6: Because during your career, they can post certain things on

1084
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 6: TV and then a lot of times the media for

1085
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 6: the team will tell you not to reply.

1086
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: I'll not give you the platform to reply to get

1087
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: the to get what they're saying about you.

1088
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 6: Correct right, So now and they're in the position where

1089
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 6: they have their phones, they have their social media. Use

1090
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 6: the right way and control your own narrative. Whatever the

1091
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 6: media try to say something about you, I try to

1092
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 6: say you said something to the team or accounts or something.

1093
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 6: You can clear it all up on your page, your

1094
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 6: own social media so they can hear from the hawss's mouth.

1095
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 2: So control your own.

1096
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 5: Are I think that's important too. And then I got

1097
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 5: fifteen year old sons that are coming down the pipeline,

1098
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 5: and just for these young players to understand that their

1099
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 5: brand's already like you are a walking brand as you speak.

1100
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 5: And to refer back to the young ladies Kaitlyn Clark

1101
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 5: and Andel Reese, they had bigger brands arguably than what

1102
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 5: the WNBA was at the time they came into it,

1103
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So understand your brand power.

1104
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 5: And then what Jason, I'm not a businessman, I'm a

1105
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 5: business like understand that you're really a business.

1106
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: Everywhere you move and you have to just you just

1107
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: have to.

1108
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 5: Unfortunate, like you said, there's no room to fuck up

1109
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 5: because there's so many cameras on you. So just understand

1110
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 5: every movie's make and everything you say can affect your brand.

1111
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 7: There was a speaking of your kids. You talk all

1112
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 7: about your kid There was a video last year in

1113
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 7: November that went viral of you and Derek Fisher coaching

1114
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 7: the Twins together. That was a really that was like

1115
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 7: I think the.

1116
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: World was like, oh wow, the world.

1117
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 5: I was.

1118
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 7: I remember twenty before that, right, what was it like

1119
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 7: getting to that point where now were on the court.

1120
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: It's important to do it, but what was that standing?

1121
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 5: Me and Fish squashed that ship the summer after it happened,

1122
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 5: like that shit happened at the beginning of one season,

1123
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 5: and then the next summer once I found out he

1124
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 5: was around, and then twins cared about him, Like, we

1125
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 5: squashed it because it wasn't about my ex and ie

1126
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 5: no more. It was about trying to raise these young men.

1127
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 5: So Fish has been in the boys life for almost

1128
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 5: half their life, you know what I mean. So we've

1129
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 5: always been And I was real enough to sit down

1130
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: and have a conversation with him, like, bro, I'm still playing,

1131
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 5: so you're gonna see my kids more than me. I

1132
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 5: need you to teach them the ropes while I'm not around,

1133
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 5: So to me, you know, once I got over and

1134
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 5: once we talked about how I didn't agree with the

1135
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 5: move and it could have went a different way, Like

1136
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 5: it wasn't about saving that, it was about harvesting and

1137
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 5: we got to raise two young black men. So I mean,

1138
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 5: I think he's done a great job. I tipped my

1139
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 5: hat to him all the time. I mean, he's their

1140
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 5: second dad, and he you know, I coached him in

1141
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 5: the summer during au and coaches them during high school.

1142
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 5: So I mean when people see us, they still kind

1143
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 5: of trip out.

1144
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: But like we are. Our beef was for a season

1145
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: that long for y'all.

1146
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: It's easy to squash beef when you win.

1147
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: To fight Jackson.

1148
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: We appreciate y'all. Y'all got some shoulds right show today?

1149
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 2: Yep?

1150
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah wherever this drops, yeah to uh uh Philly,

1151
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 5: So Philly, Philly Night Night. So tonight is tonight in

1152
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 5: New York the seventh in New York tonight, so they

1153
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 5: may miss it, but tonight in New York, if you're

1154
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 5: around Gramercy Theater, we got Larry, the one and only

1155
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 5: Larry Johnson, my mom, and then uh yeah in Philly,

1156
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 5: we're Wednesday Night with with a million dollars worth of

1157
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 5: game and and a really special guest coming through with them, man,

1158
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 5: so where it.

1159
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 6: We're excuted to be honest, Jones, Davies, all of them

1160
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 6: said they was pulling up, so I'm looking to see you.

1161
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 7: Is it gonna be a I and Philly?

1162
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: You know we're gonna see what I saw.

1163
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 5: Paul George, So Paul he couldn't come because yeah, we

1164
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 5: scrammed with Yeah, Wenna, as long as we get him

1165
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 5: up on the airplane, he'll be here.

1166
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite is probably my favorite.

1167
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 5: And he's different and for him to like, I don't

1168
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 5: think people understand how passionate, how much he loves life

1169
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 5: and how much he loves people, you know what I mean.

1170
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 5: And we try to tell him all the time, bro,

1171
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: like you gotta talk like people love you to death

1172
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 5: and they just want to know how you are. They

1173
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 5: want to know what you think. And so we're slowly

1174
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 5: getting them to hopefully sitting down and having his.

1175
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: Own thing one day.

1176
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, yo, play I played with doing so you know,

1177
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 6: I'm just one of those guys, Like every time I

1178
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 6: played against Chuck when he gets to the city, when

1179
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 6: his boys are called me and I end up in

1180
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 6: the club with him hanging out, you know, what I'm

1181
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 6: saying from the city to city. He lost a friend

1182
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 6: named Jamal a couple of years ago and that pass

1183
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 6: from counseling me and it was real close. And during

1184
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 6: that time, you know, I stepped in, you know what

1185
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 6: I'm saying, and tried to help him out a lot.

1186
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 6: So we just became brothers doing the playing time. Yeah,

1187
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 6: that was with him early and my big brother. You know,

1188
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 6: I got traded with Chris Webber off to Philly early

1189
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 6: in my early two thousands, and Chuck gave me a

1190
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 6: car rote off the whip or off the rip and

1191
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 6: told me if I needed So it was just like this.

1192
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 5: Is Alan and Iverson. Just give you a car to

1193
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 5: drive around because I just got it. It was like

1194
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 5: one of the Mustangs when the Mustangs first came out,

1195
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 5: the two door Mustangs. He'd let me push that thing

1196
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 5: for a couple of months. Just whatever you need, bro,

1197
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 5: just let me know.

1198
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm just like, damn had that Applebee's popping right now?

1199
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 5: Man, No Friday Friday used to really be popping, bros.

1200
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 5: We used to get off the plane at two thirty

1201
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 5: in the morning. I wasn't playing, so I didn't give

1202
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 5: a fuck. But he would have limos for us to

1203
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 5: go to Atlantic City and go chill all night, you

1204
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 5: know what I mean, have the penthouse to the lower

1205
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 5: to thirteen, Like, how the fuck is all this free?

1206
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: I learned later that you had.

1207
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 5: To give a little bit of money to the casino

1208
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 5: to get all that for, you know, But Chuck was

1209
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 5: he was just one of them rare dudes like you

1210
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 5: said that that enjoyed life and then gave it his

1211
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 5: absolute all.

1212
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: On that court.

1213
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 5: If people would see how he used to walk around

1214
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 5: on off day, is are in practice with big old

1215
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 5: elbows and hips are bruised up, and then as soon

1216
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 5: as it you know, that popcorn starts popping about six

1217
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 5: six thirty, a different light turns on and he becomes

1218
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 5: an animal man.

1219
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: So it was just hard to he do hard. That's

1220
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: what people don't understand.

1221
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 6: You don't get people that caliber, that loves everybody in

1222
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 6: that genuine way.

1223
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: That's why. That's why it's kind of weird to people.

1224
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, salute the bubble check.

1225
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 4: That conversation is into all the Smoke Coffee table book,

1226
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 4: which is out right now, all the stars, all the stories,

1227
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: no apologies, go get it.

1228
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: That's right.

1229
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club, good morning, wake that ass up

1230
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: in the morning.

1231
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club