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Speaker 1: Happy New Year. This is the best of show with

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. We are joined now by our good

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Speaker 1: friend Bill O'Reilly. He's got a brand new column out,

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Speaker 1: got a brand new book on the New York Times

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Speaker 1: bestseller list. A lot going on in his world. And Bill,

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Speaker 1: let's start with this. You've known Trump for a while.

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Speaker 1: It seems like Trump right now is maybe the most confident,

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Speaker 1: comfortable version of Trump that we have ever seen. All

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Speaker 1: of the big tech CEOs are lining up, all the

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Speaker 1: big CEOs in general are lining up to come to

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Speaker 1: mar A Lago. There seems to be very limited resistance

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Speaker 1: to him. How would you assess Trump as a leader

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Speaker 1: compared to how you have seen him in the past?

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Speaker 1: And do you agree that he feels incredibly comfortable as

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Speaker 1: he prepares to step into the role of president again

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Speaker 1: next month?

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Speaker 2: Well, he won, and it's all about winning. So he

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Speaker 2: not only did he come Harris, he defeated the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 2: he defeated the corrupt media. He defeated the midgets overseas.

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Speaker 2: Are you allowed to say midgets the word.

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Speaker 1: We're bringing it back, We're bringing it back.

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Speaker 3: Fair, Bill, You got to be careful. It's a guy

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Speaker 3: who's like six ' nine. You know, I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: what qualifies, but keep going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying mental midgets, but the word midget, you

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Speaker 2: don't hear it anymore. Anyway. I don't want to be offensive,

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Speaker 2: you know me, I'd like everybody to be woke. But

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Speaker 2: he won across the board. That he ran the table,

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Speaker 2: as they say in billiards. And so the surprise is

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Speaker 2: that he's not gloating per se. And I have to

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Speaker 2: amend that by saying I've known him for thirty five years.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine that thirty five years and when he

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Speaker 2: was with me, like going to the Nick game or

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Speaker 2: the Metal Yankee games, I never saw him gloat ever,

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Speaker 2: But he wasn't in policy takes that. He's a business guy,

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Speaker 2: but he has a tendency to do two things, get

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Speaker 2: angry and react emotionally from the anger, and then when

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Speaker 2: things go his way, it gets a little houghty. And

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Speaker 2: you did not You're absolutely correct in a press conference, Yester,

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Speaker 2: you did not see that. And I believe it's two reasons.

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Speaker 2: And I can't tell you anymore because I can't violate confidences,

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Speaker 2: but I know this to be true. He's looking to

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Speaker 2: his legacy now he wants to do the best job

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Speaker 2: he could ever do, so he goes down in history

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Speaker 2: alongside people like Ronald Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt, modern Presidentcy succeeded.

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Speaker 2: And so whether or not that does a data that

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Speaker 2: is affecting him day to day, I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 2: not around him, but I know that the ultimate goal

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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump now is have a very successful four

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Speaker 2: years and conduct himself in a way that catapults him

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Speaker 2: into the history books.

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Speaker 3: Bill, you nailed what was going to happen in advance.

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Speaker 3: I think Clay might have been out that day. But

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Speaker 3: when we talked about Daniel Penny and the verdict coming,

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Speaker 3: I was concerned you were seguine about the fact that

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Speaker 3: this jury was going to see through it. There was

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Speaker 3: no wavering in your assessment. So I wanted to give

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Speaker 3: you full credit on that. But it seems that this

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Speaker 3: is clearly a turning of the tide in some way

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Speaker 3: when it comes to the way New Yorkers feel about

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Speaker 3: crime and criminal justice. Donald Trump invited Penny, as we

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Speaker 3: know Daniel Penny to attend the Army Navy game with him,

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Speaker 3: So this is a national level conversation that's happening. Do

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Speaker 3: you think that it is symbolic of a new direction

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Speaker 3: perhaps for New York City. And do you think Eric Adams,

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Speaker 3: the Mayor of New York may play a role in this,

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Speaker 3: because he's been saying some interesting stuff now and we

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Speaker 2: Eric Adams is done in New York. He's not going

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Speaker 2: to be the next mayor. There's a variety of reasons why.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's a bad man, but he could

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Speaker 2: not reverse the horrible policies to build the Blasio and

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Speaker 2: things actually got worse in the city under Adams' tenure.

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Speaker 2: Is New York changing a little bit? Manhattan is changing

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Speaker 2: a little bit, not as much as the suburbs and

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Speaker 2: the countryside and upstate New York they're going red. But

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Speaker 2: the city is dominated by the Democratic machine all the

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Speaker 2: way back to Boss Tweed. And I think he had

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Speaker 2: thirty five years ago. Anyway, you know your New York history.

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Speaker 2: He ran the city and Chester Arthur became president because

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Speaker 2: the culture has not changed. The far left culture that

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Speaker 1: Bill so Buck and I were just talking an hour

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Speaker 1: one that the Trump resistance appears to have collapsed. Even

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Speaker 1: if you go back to twenty sixteen, when he got elected,

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Speaker 1: there was almost immediately this idea of, oh, we're going

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Speaker 1: resistance was a big thing. I just saw where AOC

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Speaker 1: of leadership. There doesn't even seem to be Yeah, Nancy

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Speaker 1: Pelosi got to win, even though I think he's in

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Speaker 1: the level of Trump in the Democrat Party right now.

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Speaker 1: How much can Trump get done and how quickly and

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Speaker 1: how much different are we looking at the situation in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five compared to twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Oh huge. In seventeen, Donald Trump didn't know what he

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Speaker 2: was doing and he'll admit it. And he brought in

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Speaker 2: people like Rex to listen to me, Secretary of State

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Speaker 2: who couldn't possibly do the job. And what's his name

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Speaker 2: is Attorney General Sessions. Yeah, ridiculous. They were ridiculous now

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Speaker 2: and this is fascinating. And you ask a very good question.

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Speaker 2: The way that the Trump administration is going to run

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Speaker 2: for at least two years, and I say two because

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Speaker 2: it depends how successful they are, is exactly the way

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Speaker 2: Franklin Delano Roosevelt ran his administrations. And when I said

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Speaker 2: that to Trump himself, I don't think he knew that.

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Speaker 2: And I said, look, he need to read Confronting the Presidents.

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Speaker 2: the documentary on News Nation Trump then we discussed it extensively,

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Speaker 2: but he didn't read the book. And I said, when

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Speaker 2: Roosevelt came in, the depression was just hammering everybody in

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Speaker 2: the country. And Herbert Ruver was one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: failed presidents of all time. The guy had no clue.

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Speaker 2: So what Roosevelt did was he hired his buddies from

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Speaker 2: they just showed up at the White House. They made

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Speaker 2: all the decisions, and then the decisions came out from

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Speaker 2: executed those decisions. Exactly what this is going to happen now,

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Speaker 2: But it didn't happen four years ago. There there were

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Speaker 2: Wasn't even an intern for any political person. But Roosevelt

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Speaker 2: going to happen now, which is why Trump nominated all

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Speaker 2: of these loyalists to him, because they're not going to

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Speaker 1: Bill Uh.

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Speaker 3: I'm also wondering if you could tell us what you

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Speaker 3: think if you had a ninety day and maybe the

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Speaker 3: kind of ninety second version of the ninety day plan,

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Speaker 3: if you will, a ninety day plan for Trump, because

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Speaker 3: it does feel like right now the opening He's got

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Speaker 3: the pieces lined up around him, and the opening is

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Speaker 3: bigger than it has been. The mandate is more definitive

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Speaker 3: than has been ever before for Trump to do big

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Speaker 3: things and get things done. What does the first ninety

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Speaker 2: Another good question, Zori. A deal in place for ceasefire

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Speaker 2: got to get the hostages out, and Biden did not

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Speaker 2: help him Friday by allowing ten billion dollars to flow

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Speaker 2: to get those hostages out. And Biden is such an idiot,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, I'm sorry to be disrespectful, but he

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Speaker 2: giving those savages in Iran that money. But anyway, Trump

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Speaker 2: Middle East. He's going to be able to seal up

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Speaker 2: the border very quickly. And if Claudia Schanbaum, the new

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Speaker 2: my commentary is, if anyone does not cooperate with you,

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Speaker 2: the head of the FBI, which will probably be Cash Bettel,

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Speaker 2: that whole sanctuary city collapses, Everything collapses. They're going to

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Speaker 2: But that's what you do. And so I think that

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Speaker 1: Bill, what do you think we should be aware of that?

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Speaker 1: Maybe we're not contemplating as we get closer to the inauguration,

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Speaker 1: is there anything that you think is a dirty trick

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Speaker 1: Trump should be leery of, because again we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the fact that they really haven't been able to create

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Speaker 2: There's no leadership in the Democratic Party at all. None

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Speaker 2: is no one in charge. So that's a huge advantage.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has to watch Robert Kennedy Jr. I don't

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Speaker 2: think he's going to make it okay. So I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he's got a backup for Kennedy because he had a

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Speaker 2: will be And all of my commentary, by the way,

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Speaker 2: is on Bill O'Reilly dot com. That's where we live,

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Speaker 2: and you know we're ninety percent accurate. So R. K.

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Speaker 2: Junior is not gonna He's gonna get down. I don't

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Speaker 2: know about Haig Smith. I don't know his other stuff

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Speaker 2: to sell himself in to the Senator's Republican senators. It's

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Speaker 2: a tough sell. He has no experience, and the Pentagon's

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Speaker 2: is that's where his deficis, if you want to call

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Speaker 2: him that lie. But the Democratic Party they got nothing

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Speaker 2: right now. They're on the run. They're collapsing. And if

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Speaker 2: Trump is successful, JD. Vanis is going to walk in

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Speaker 2: in four years.

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Speaker 1: It is one hundred percent we'lcome back in Christmas music season.

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Speaker 4: I feel really bad because I've seen so many players

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Speaker 4: We have got to operate and become stronger as a

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Speaker 1: The white girl can't be getting attention because it creates

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Speaker 3: Well, also, you had this from the she's the owner.

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Speaker 5: turn around and find out that at least some of

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Speaker 5: them are guilty of the same. I don't know about y'all,

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Speaker 5: but I'm sick of all of it. I'm sick of

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Speaker 5: all of it.

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Speaker 1: They've actually made.

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump look like he was right instead of them.

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Speaker 1: Well he was, So it's not just looks that way,

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Speaker 1: but is what's going on here in your mind? Is

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Speaker 1: this a genuine recognition and pivot by Stephen A. Smith,

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Speaker 1: or is it Hey, I saw what happened in the election,

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Speaker 1: and now there is freedom to be able to address

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Speaker 1: some of these things, like what is going on.

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Speaker 3: I think this is more ought. I think this is

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Speaker 3: more going where the audience is than anything else. But

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's in I don't think it's only

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Speaker 3: that I don't know Steven A. Smith. I never talked

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Speaker 3: to him, you know, so I'm not familiar with his work,

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Speaker 3: but I am familiar with the trend you are seeing

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Speaker 3: now of more and more people who, particularly men in

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Speaker 3: the commentary space, okay, whether it's sports, politics, whatever, who

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Speaker 3: don't feel the need to say the crazy woke stuff anymore.

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Speaker 3: That I just refuse to believe that they believe.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's just there's no like the you know, women don't

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Speaker 3: have a disadvantage against men and sports stuff, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is crazy and that's one example. There are many

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Speaker 3: examples of it, though, you know, I thought it was

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Speaker 3: interesting how much it's it's caught on clay that Tim

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Speaker 3: Walls lying about some stuff was what turned Joe Rogan

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Speaker 3: particularly political in this election, that he just felt like

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Speaker 3: this guy was just lying about core stuff about who

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Speaker 3: he is and the whole thing too with it, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I wor Camo and Carhart. Now I'm just a guy

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Speaker 3: like the guys. But I mean, really, you know he

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Speaker 3: was jazz hands. Like no one really bought this about

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Speaker 3: Tim Walls that there was I think there's resentment from

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Speaker 3: people who felt like they had to tow this line

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Speaker 3: because they didn't want to deal with the backlash. I

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Speaker 3: think Stephen Smith, Stephen A. Smith? Do I have to

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Speaker 3: always say the a Stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith is otherwise maybe the most common name in America?

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, well Steven Smith. There's a lot of dudes.

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Speaker 1: So I think he needed the initials so that he

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Speaker 1: would be recognized.

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Speaker 3: So I just I would say this. I think it's

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Speaker 3: a component. It's two things. It's the freedom to speak

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Speaker 3: the truth that he always knew at some level. But

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Speaker 3: I also think it's mostly this is where the audiences

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Speaker 3: are going. I don't know what is going on with

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Speaker 3: the left these days, Like who actually believes any of

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Speaker 3: this crap? Like who's watching these shows now that we're

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Speaker 3: all you can't tell somebody that fascism is coming in

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Speaker 3: Hitler is going to destroy the whole country, and then

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Speaker 3: that guy actually becomes president and everything's looking great, and

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Speaker 3: the markets are booming, and business is excited, and it's

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Speaker 3: looking great for everybody, And what exactly are you selling

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Speaker 3: here on these channels. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: But you went to breakfast with them, which is what

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Speaker 1: Morning Joe and Mika did. It's not even that all

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Speaker 1: those things are happening, it's that I think maybe you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't brunch with Hitler, you know, if you truly believe

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Speaker 1: that Trump is Hitler. And I think this is I

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Speaker 1: don't begrudge anybody who bought into all those lies. I

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Speaker 1: do think there is an element of the stacking of

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Speaker 1: all the lies have finally caught up with him. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's the combo buck of saying Biden was

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Speaker 1: sharp as attack behind closed doors. No one can make

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Speaker 1: that argument. I mean, Biden can barely speak. And then

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Speaker 1: Trump winning it ended any of their legitimacy because they

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Speaker 1: immediately pivoted and said, oh, Kamala is actually like as

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Speaker 1: soon as you were telling me that Biden was sharp

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Speaker 1: as attack behind closed doors and that Kamala was running

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Speaker 1: a flawless campaign, and then Trump smokes Biden on June

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Speaker 1: twenty seventh and then smokes Kamala on November fifth. I

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Speaker 1: think the double barrel of those outcomes in many respects

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Speaker 1: destroyed the legitimacy of those networks, and I think it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you come back from it. I

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Speaker 1: really don't. I think they're going to have to. Basically,

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Speaker 1: you know, when a team gets really bad, you have

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Speaker 1: to kind of clean the deck. You're just like, man,

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Speaker 1: we like trade, everybody, fire everybody like, we're just going

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Speaker 1: to rebuild from the studs up. Another analogy would be

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Speaker 1: if you got an old home, sooner or later, you

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Speaker 1: got to stop with just the rehab, and you have

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Speaker 1: to acknowledge the whole thing needs to be torn down

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Speaker 1: and rebuilt. The Democrat Party to me right now, and

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Speaker 1: the media that supports it needs to be torn down

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Speaker 1: and rebuilt. I think that's the reality. They're fighting it,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's the reality. Welcome back in Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton show, Buck, you blew my mind This morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing my show prep and I look down on

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Speaker 1: my phone scrolling through, and your lovely wife Carrie had

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Speaker 1: never seen the movie die Hard, and I I just

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Speaker 1: I this is a thing that is actually really common.

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Speaker 1: I think with younger women. I think most men, of

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Speaker 1: most agents, you agree, like, most men have seen die Hard.

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Speaker 1: Even if you're twenty five and you're listening to us

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Speaker 1: right now and you're a guy, you've seen die Hard.

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Speaker 3: But this, I think it's hard to even identify as

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Speaker 3: a guy if you haven't seen die Hard. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: But I agree with that. And this happened to me

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Speaker 1: is the first time I felt old. About a decade ago,

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Speaker 1: I was in La. Fox Sports is actually at the

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Speaker 1: intersection of Pico and Mode. For those of you listening

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Speaker 1: in La or have spent time out in West La

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Speaker 1: and the Knaka Toomy tower building that they used as

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Speaker 1: the as the sort of the outdoor vision of the movie.

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Speaker 1: The setting it's right by the Fox A lot, and

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Speaker 1: we were driving by, and a lot of production assistants

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Speaker 1: on television are young, and they were in the car.

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Speaker 1: There's like two or three girls and two or three guys.

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Speaker 1: The girls had never heard of the movie, had never

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Speaker 1: seen the movie die Hard, and so when we the

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Speaker 1: guys were all in the car talking about, Hey, that's

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Speaker 1: that's Knokotomby tower. They had no earthly idea. And now

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Speaker 1: I hear Carrie hasn't. And I think this is a

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Speaker 1: trend out there. I think there are lots of girls twenties, thirties,

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Speaker 1: youngish that have never seen this movie. So you have

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Speaker 1: got a plan.

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Speaker 3: Now, I think, Well, she's she said she has seen

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Speaker 3: parts of it, but I have been in an endless

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Speaker 3: loop over here as we're you know, prepping the home

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Speaker 3: with the trigue and the and the little Red done

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Speaker 3: the stockings and all this stuff of as I said,

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Speaker 3: these Hallmark Christmas movies, which we had some fun talking

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Speaker 3: about yesterday, and all of you, by the way, who

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Speaker 3: knew what we're talking about, know that we're nailing it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's it's always the same plot. The whole

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Speaker 3: thing is like very it's very formulae. But that's fun

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Speaker 3: fun for people. I'm not talking about the classics. I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about the Hallmark, these Hallmark Christmas movies. So I

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Speaker 3: just said to I said, honey, you know we're gonna

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Speaker 3: be you know, Friday night, we're just gonna be hanging out,

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Speaker 3: you and me, So why don't we and Ginger, why

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Speaker 3: don't we watch die Hard? She says she has seen

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Speaker 3: parts of it, but I was I had to tell

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Speaker 3: her right away That is not the answer to have

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Speaker 3: I've seen?

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Speaker 2: Have you?

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Speaker 3: Or have you not seen? Die Hard needs to be yes,

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Speaker 3: it can't be. I've seen parts of it. So I

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Speaker 3: think we're gonna be hanging with John McClain barefoot, running

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Speaker 3: around Nakotomi Tower with his little his little HK and

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: How many movies are better than die Hard from a

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Speaker 1: adventure perspective, I think they can.

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Speaker 3: Make us case that Diehard is the greatest action movie

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Speaker 3: of all time. I'm not saying it is definitively. I'm

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Speaker 3: saying it is a contender. You could argue greatest action

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Speaker 3: movie of all time.

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Speaker 1: I think you have to say are rated, because obviously

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Speaker 1: then the Indiana Jones movies are action like can kind

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Speaker 1: of get right there? See those?

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Speaker 3: Remember the old movie rental places? Those would go under

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Speaker 3: action slash adventure.

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Speaker 1: I remember that