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Speaker 1: it out here on a Tuesday Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: to and in his cap management season. All you accountants,

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Speaker 1: Tarryn Johnson case in point, you know Isaiah McKenzie case

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Speaker 1: in point. Guys who showed up is like who is

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Speaker 1: you know, are they any good? Gabriel Davis? We have

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Speaker 1: to find more players like that that are on the

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Speaker 1: way up right, And that's what they're gonna guys that

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Speaker 1: have come in here and established themselves. But I'll say

435
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Speaker 1: this as well, you can give the culture here in

436
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: the program here, and this growth, the growth mindset that

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Speaker 1: they preach and display here as as big a reason

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Speaker 1: for Gabe Davis and Isaiah McKenzie and all these guys

439
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Speaker 1: getting better while they're here as the players themselves. You've

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Speaker 1: got they've got an environment where players start to play better.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna help them. Now, there may be some growing

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Speaker 1: pains early on, but I still feel like this is

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Speaker 1: a club and McDermot and his staff are gonna feel

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Speaker 1: really good about their ability to win, even if they

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Speaker 1: don't get every single guy that was back off their

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Speaker 1: roster back off their ruster from a year ago. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: On yesterday's show, we were talking about the report out

448
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Speaker 1: there that the Bills were looking to make a big

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Speaker 1: splash in free agency with a we are a free

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Speaker 1: agent that came to them and said, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd be interested in doing this, that and the other,

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Speaker 1: And we were talking about that on yesterday's show, But

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Speaker 1: what is the reality of that? Some of us speculated,

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Speaker 1: myself included maybe that means a defensive end. Now, I

455
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Speaker 1: didn't know if the Bills were going to be able

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Speaker 1: to clear enough cap space to sign a gigantic defensive end.

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Speaker 1: But in light of all that talk yesterday, Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: was posed that question today on making a big free

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Speaker 1: agent move at defensive end, knowing their roster is currently

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Speaker 1: made up of young players at that position. Here's what

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Speaker 1: he said. Yeah, I don't know. I mean those numbers

462
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Speaker 1: are pretty high. I mean, we'd have to get really creative. Listen,

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Speaker 1: we get in on a lot of conversations we really do,

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Speaker 1: you know, like J. J. Watt last year, but you know,

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Speaker 1: we never got down the road. What happens is you

466
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Speaker 1: get if you're in you're talking, you get flagging people

467
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Speaker 1: never gets filled in. Were you in for two conversations?

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Speaker 1: Were you in for eight days of tough negotiating? Like word,

469
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Speaker 1: where did the story end? And so we showed some

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Speaker 1: some some mild interest, but ultimately, um, you know, we

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Speaker 1: just couldn't. We couldn't do financially where he was heading.

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Speaker 1: So we'll look at guys. But it's it's got to

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Speaker 1: be something we can work. We want the best players

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Speaker 1: that we can get, and but it's got to make sense.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be the value for the money, whether

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Speaker 1: you're talking about seven million, ten million, you know, fifteen million,

477
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Speaker 1: whatever it is. Pass Rushers are expensive, you know, when

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Speaker 1: you after quarterbacks, that's generally about the most expensive position

479
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Speaker 1: that you're going to go. You know, shop to them.

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Speaker 1: They're not getting a big ninny defensive end. That is

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Speaker 1: not happening. There's no way how do you fit it under?

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Speaker 1: So I think what you're looking at possibly is Buffalo

483
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Speaker 1: signing somebody to a one, maybe a two year deal

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Speaker 1: if they have to spread the money out, which presumably

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Speaker 1: they do. So you know, maybe someone like Mario Addison

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Speaker 1: is back on a cap end lee deal because he's

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Speaker 1: up there in age. You know, he's thirty three, So

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Speaker 1: maybe it's him. Maybe it's somebody like Jason Pierre Paul

489
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Speaker 1: thirty three years old. You know, probably his best days

490
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: are behind him, and maybe he can offer you something

491
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Speaker 1: as a rotational player. Knowing the players rotate here pretty heavily,

492
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Speaker 1: so maybe you can get more out of an older

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Speaker 1: player here, you know, and convince them, Hey, you're not

494
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Speaker 1: gonna be playing sixty five snaps a game. You'll be

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Speaker 1: playing thirty four. Yeah, And to that snap counts scenario

496
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Speaker 1: that you're talking about, you get a guy like Larry

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Speaker 1: Ogan Joebe who's from Cincinnati, right, and he's he's twenty

498
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Speaker 1: seven years I'm gonna be twenty eight years old, played

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Speaker 1: all sixteen games last year and played over seven hundred

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Speaker 1: snaps in the season. You're gonna be looking to get

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Speaker 1: paid though he's a younger guy. Yeah, but those are

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Speaker 1: the kind of guys you say if you bring him in,

503
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Speaker 1: those are the kind of names you're talking. That's defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: You know, you get a defensive tackle, and I think

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Speaker 1: they're doing that. If you can't get a defensive end

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Speaker 1: like Vernon Butler's on this list, they're gonna have enough

507
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: trouble resigning Harrison Phillips, Right, So a defensive end, you're

508
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Speaker 1: looking at a one maybe a one year deal with

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Speaker 1: avoidable year to spread the money out. Because it's Brandon

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Speaker 1: just said it, it's too expensive a position for them

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Speaker 1: to be in the market. For somebody in the middle

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Speaker 1: to upper tier. They just can't do it. They got

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00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: too many other holes to phill it not enough money

514
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Speaker 1: to do it. They've got four defensive linemen who played

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Speaker 1: significant snaps last year on their rookie contracts. Ed Oliver Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips. No, it's five. Harrison Phillips not on his reccount.

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Speaker 1: He's doubt well not anymore. It's it's ed Oliver aj Boogie,

518
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Speaker 1: Basham and Rousseau. And Basham didn't even play much. And

519
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: Basham was a rotational guy. But he's not going anywhere

520
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be back here in this shot. So

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Speaker 1: but you know, they've got those four guys. You got

522
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Speaker 1: to find somebody. You got starlotu La under contract, fat

523
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: number on a big number. You need more production from him.

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Speaker 1: But that you know, if they're going to continue now,

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Speaker 1: they you could say, all right now, the Bills are

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Speaker 1: gonna do it differently this year. They're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: play guys like for you know, seventy five percent of

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Speaker 1: the snaps instead of forty percent of the snaps. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they do that, Maybe they only go too deep, too

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Speaker 1: any you know, deeper into that thing instead of them

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Speaker 1: eight guys rotate the six and they save the money

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Speaker 1: that way. But even if they do. What are you

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Speaker 1: gonna do if some guy, you know, two guys tweak

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Speaker 1: their ankle. You know, I just based on what he

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Speaker 1: said today, there is no way a big splash free

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Speaker 1: agent is coming at the defensive end position. It's too

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00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: much money, their cap situation is too restrictive. They're just

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Speaker 1: not in a position to do it. I don't like

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Speaker 1: the I don't like that movie anyway. I hate I hate,

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I hate big right deep,

541
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Speaker 1: big time free agent. I hate it and I get it.

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00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you can't go into next

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Speaker 1: season counting on aj EPINESA greg or So and Boogie

544
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: Basham as your top three pass rushers and say we're good.

545
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: You need some veteran insurance here in some way, shape

546
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Speaker 1: or form. The problem is you're looking at a one

547
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Speaker 1: year deal with maybe avoidable year and paying a guy

548
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: five million. Who are you getting for five million on

549
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: the open market at defensive end that has some measure

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Speaker 1: of production somewhere in his career. Not many people you'd

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Speaker 1: be looking at giving fa Obata a pay raise to

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Speaker 1: two million or two point five million and signing him

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Speaker 1: to the same deal he made one point five last

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Speaker 1: year and he played right, so if he was also inactive,

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Speaker 1: if they like him, you know, they'll bring him back

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Speaker 1: for that number or even a little bit more. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering how far down the list you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to go to get somebody you can afford. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to go to get You're gonna go paying

560
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Speaker 1: thirty four year old Everson Griffin. I mean, you're gonna

561
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Speaker 1: pay that guy. How much does Jason Pierre Paul cost

562
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Speaker 1: at thirty three years old? Is he still looking for

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Speaker 1: eight million a year? Because I'm probably out. If he's

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Speaker 1: asking for eight, you want to talk six five. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you're getting a defensive end for

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Speaker 1: five million dollars at least one that's worth his salt,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's a problem there. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how they're gonna address that. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: very interesting to see. We have to take a break

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Speaker 1: here when we come back. Brandon Being also addressed the

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Speaker 1: reports from last week about Cole Beasley being given permission

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Speaker 1: to seek a trade and what could come of it.

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Speaker 1: He addressed that subject will pass those comments along to

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Speaker 1: you when we return here. On One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Kellid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 1: We told you at the break that we were going

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Speaker 1: to pass along Brandon Bean's assessment of the Cole Beasley situation.

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Speaker 1: He was given permission to seek a tray by the

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Speaker 1: team late last week and you know, we were still

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Speaker 1: at the combine when that news came down. So when

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Speaker 1: Brandon being appeared on the WGR Morning Show with Howard

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Speaker 1: and Jeremy this morning, they asked him where things stand

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Speaker 1: on the possibility of trading Cole Beasley. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we just you know, that was more of

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Speaker 1: a situation. Um, you know, we had not you know

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Speaker 1: when I first talked, we had not spoken to Cole

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Speaker 1: or his reps, but circled up with them recently when

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Speaker 1: that report came out, and um, you know, we were

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Speaker 1: we listened, had conversations internally, and ultimately said we would

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Speaker 1: we would allow Cole to to seek that if if

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Speaker 1: you found a partner, and we didn't close any doors.

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Speaker 1: So that's really where it's at. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get into conversations or where that stands a lot of

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Speaker 1: respect for Cole and his family and what they've done

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Speaker 1: for the organization the last three years, and we'll just

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Speaker 1: we'll let that play out. So he's gonna let it

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Speaker 1: play out, and quite frankly, Steve, anytime a player is

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Speaker 1: seeking a trade, I mean essentially, it's one of two things.

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Speaker 1: Either that player no longer wants to be and you know,

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Speaker 1: with the team that he's with, or be the team

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00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: has no problem moving on from the player. It's one

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Speaker 1: or the other. Now, Brandon's being has given indication they'd

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Speaker 1: be happy to take him back, so I'd be inclined

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Speaker 1: knowing that it was Beasley asking for permission to seek

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Speaker 1: a trade. Is the guy that doesn't want to be here? Now?

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Speaker 1: Knowing that, knowing those details. If you're another team and

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Speaker 1: you're interested in Cole Beasley, aren't you just waiting for

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Speaker 1: him to get moved off the roster. I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 1: not totally sold on the mind frame you're you're projecting

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Speaker 1: on Cole. Here's the thing. Most guys have a keen

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Speaker 1: awareness of what their contract says and what they're worth.

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Speaker 1: Smart guys do. And Cole is sitting there looking at

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Speaker 1: his number, which is it's a big number, I think. Right,

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Speaker 1: his number is Cole Beasley is seven point two five

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Speaker 1: average salary, So there you go. He's had a four year,

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Speaker 1: twenty nine million right, So he's got a seven million

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Speaker 1: dollars cap hit. He sees himself being more and more

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Speaker 1: rotated in and out of it, and knows, given the

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Speaker 1: reputation of this front office, that he's making a fat

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Speaker 1: number for not getting very much of a chance to

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Speaker 1: contribute whether he can or not well, and if he's

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Speaker 1: off the roster, he sees him a little over six

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Speaker 1: million right now. He knows two that they got to make.

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00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: They might have to make a tough decision. He's looking

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Speaker 1: at the cap just like we are this morning, and

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Speaker 1: he's saying that they might have to cut me. But

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Speaker 1: I like it here, So why don't I just say

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Speaker 1: this if if they can trade me that way, I

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Speaker 1: can go to another team and that team will either

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Speaker 1: extend me and give me more money or at least

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Speaker 1: make the money I'm supposed to be making if they

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Speaker 1: Because if I stay here they can't pay me this.

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Speaker 1: There's no way they can hang on to me, and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to play for less if I can't

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Speaker 1: if I don't have to, even if it's for another

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Speaker 1: team because of my family I got. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: a business decision. The Bills are gonna at least cut

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Speaker 1: my salary in half. And that you're talking, what are

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Speaker 1: we saying? We're talking? Uh, it's three and a half

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Speaker 1: million bucks. He's not playing for that, not off back

642
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: to back eighty two catch seasons. He's not doing that

643
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: eighty two catch seasons or nothing to sneeze at. That's

644
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's not playing for less right off

645
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: back to back eighty two catch seasons. So he's saying,

646
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: all right, if the Bills can't make this work, it's

647
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: been good here. I'll tell you what. They'll get more

648
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: relief if I can get find a trade partner, because

649
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: if they just release me, they take a cap hit.

650
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: Well it's only what they Yeah, but the cap hits

651
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: one and a half instead of seventy six seven point

652
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: six and he's on the rod. Yeah, nevertheless, they still

653
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: take that hit if they trade him anyway, But they

654
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: take a hit, not as big a hit. No, it's

655
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: the same hit you pay for. You you're on the

656
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: hook for the bonus money. When the bonus money, Yeah,

657
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: but not its con his salary, right, So that's what

658
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: you're seeing. Yes, but at least he'll go to a team.

659
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: You know, he'll make that money. He knows. If he

660
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: stays here he's not making it. Yeah, if he gets traded,

661
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: he will. That's why he wants to get traded. Well,

662
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: it may be moot in a week because the Bills

663
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: Bills may have to move him off the roster to

664
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: save on the cap, and then he's free anyway to

665
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: sign with whoever he wants, right, I mean, it's a

666
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: weird preemptive move, like I don't know, maybe he just

667
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: wants it out there that hey, I'm probably going to

668
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: be available. You can have me now and you know,

669
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: and I won't squawk. So he's probably saying that so

670
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: he can get a jump on the market. He can

671
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: put himself out there on the market before the market's

672
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: even open by seeking a trade when everybody's got money

673
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: to spend. Whereas you know, all to jump into the

674
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: market at age thirty three next week with everybody else

675
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: that's a free agent, the monkey might not be there

676
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: for you. Well, here's also what it does. Brandon Bean

677
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: said he's not going to get into the conversations. Those conversations,

678
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and I don't know this, I'm guessing

679
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 1: those conversations already have this precise number that they're thinking

680
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: about giving him, because he say, listen, we're gonna give

681
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: you this. If you go out on the trade market

682
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: or whatever we cut you and the trade market, nobody's

683
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna give you above this. We'll give you this to stay.

684
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: You can trade it. We'll trade you if you want,

685
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: no problem, you can make the seven and a half

686
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: or whatever the number is. But this is what we're

687
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: thinking you're worth. If you can get better, bless your heart,

688
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: go ahead, but that's what we'll give you. He's not

689
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: the only guy. They're saying that too. That's right, that's right.

690
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: I would say upwards the ten to twelve people they're

691
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: saying that too, right now. Yeah, unless they're having conversations

692
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: about listen, we'll redo your deal right now. We'll give

693
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: you a little more money now now you know. With

694
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: that in mind, Brandon Bean was asked about that, like,

695
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: for example, Stefan Diggs, who his largest calf figure on

696
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: the roster. Hey, you know he's got this year and

697
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: next year on his current contract and I think you

698
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: could argue he's probably underpaid based on his production, even

699
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: though he has the largest cap figure on the roster's cap.

700
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: He was asked today, have you broached the subject of

701
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: a contract extension for Stefon Diggs and Brandon Bean basically said,

702
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: we'll look at everything. Definitely guys that have higher cap numbers.

703
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: You look at everything, whether it's restructure, adding years. We

704
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: will look at SEFs contract at some point and see

705
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: if there's something that makes sense for both sides. But

706
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: we haven't begun any discussions with his camp, So to me,

707
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: that means he is not viewed as a solution for

708
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: getting under the cap and having money to spend in

709
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: free agency. That might be addressed later, but not in

710
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: the next week, So they're looking at other people. His

711
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: cap hits seventeen nine, eighteen million bucks to I don't

712
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: know why you wouldn't extend him. Tas White's sixteen, Josh

713
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 1: is sixteen. Then you get Tremaine Edmonds it's twelve seven,

714
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: Dion Docas twelve seven, Mitch Morrise eleven two, Jordan pour

715
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: Your ten, Hide ten, Matt Milano ten, Darryl Williams ten,

716
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: Starlotu La is nine, so you know, and then there's

717
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley at seven point six cap hit, right, So

718
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: there's so there's your list of guys that you start

719
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: with and say, okay, if you've got and you got

720
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: to go to ownership for this too. I mean, the

721
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: owner's got to be willing to write this check. You

722
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: can say, well, he gets it back back and not

723
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: necessarily not really, you know what I mean. That money's out,

724
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: so you can kick it down, you can kick it

725
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: down the road. Yeah, but you got to have the

726
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: money in hand to do that and write that check.

727
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: And you've got to still keep everything else in line

728
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, you got to you gotta keep

729
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: your future. Let me, um, let me pose this to you.

730
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: We already heard Brandon being addressed the fact that it's

731
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to sign a veteran free agent and

732
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: defensive end of any ILK because of the costs in

733
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: it's a high priced position. You could say the same

734
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: thing about Corner although they've been able to sign bargain

735
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: corners to one year deals three of the last four years.

736
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson, Josh Norman, E. J. Gaines guys like that

737
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: with mixed degrees of success, as backups, knowing how tight

738
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: they're going to be against the cap, Steve, and probably

739
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: limited in what they can do in free agency, how

740
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: likely do you think it is that they address the

741
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: high priced positions in the league in the draft and

742
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: instead address their other holes at the lower cost positions

743
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: in free agency. For example, instead of getting a free

744
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: agent wide receiver and paying him ten to twelve million

745
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: a year, you pay a tight end that's a decent player,

746
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: but you're only paying him six. So you add a

747
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: tight end as a receiving option to your passing attack

748
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: rather than a receiver who would cost almost twice as much. Yeah,

749
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that makes sense to me. Um, and

750
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: we're just, yeah, we're looking to oh my goodness, Okay,

751
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: it looks like we have a blockbuster reported right, Yeah,

752
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: you're right at you get with what you can afford.

753
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. If it's as if it's a

754
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: cheaper spot like a guard, that it is a wide receiver,

755
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: you can afford a better player for less money at

756
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: guard than you can at wide receiver. Like what I'm

757
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: saying is a two million dollar wide receiver veteran, yeah,

758
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: is not as good as a two million dollar guard,

759
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: because a guard that's a higher, higher level of production

760
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: for less money. We have a trade alert as it

761
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: is being reported now. I don't know oh ESPN is

762
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: reporting this that after weeks of negotiations in one of

763
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: the largest trades in NFL history, the Seahawks and Denver

764
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: Broncos have agreed to terms for a deal involving quarterback

765
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. The trade is pending a physical and Wilson's

766
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: val as he does have a no trade clause. But

767
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: if memory serves, I believe Denver was one of the

768
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: three teams he listed last year as a team he'd

769
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: be willing to go to. They have a lot of

770
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: weapons on offense on that roster, and you have to

771
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: believe Steve, and it's indicated in the report weeks of

772
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: negotiations as soon as Aaron Rodgers was locked in in

773
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: Green Bay, which happened earlier today, the Broncos have apparently

774
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: pulled the trigger. After being unable to find a quarterback

775
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: via the draft or free agency for the better part

776
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: of the last ten years, they decide to make a

777
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: trade for a proven commodity in Russell Wilson, who is

778
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: now going to be a Denver Bronco, provided he approves

779
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: the trade, and knowing he's probably wanted to get out

780
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: of there for some time, I would expect him to

781
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: say yes. So now, Russell Wilson, boy, it's good to

782
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: be a Nathaniel Hanckett today. Russell Wilson will be throwing

783
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: to guys like Courtland Sutton, Jerry Judy, kJ Hammler no offense.

784
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: And you know he's got some guys in the bedfield

785
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: as well. They're trying to resign Melvin Gordon. We'll see

786
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: what happens there. But Russell Wilson, it looks like he

787
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: is going to be a Denver Bronco for the second

788
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: half of his NFL career. It's not bad either, Russell Wilson.

789
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: If he is in, he is all. He's signed through

790
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. He's a free agent in twenty twenty four,

791
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: so he got two years left or you got two

792
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: years left on this deal. He's only making thirty five

793
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: million a year. That's the cap hit that you can say, well,

794
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: thirty million, it's not that much for a guy of

795
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: his caliber. Well, plus they have Jerry Judy and kJ

796
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: Hamler all in their rookie contracts. I believe Noah Fans

797
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: is still on his rookie deal, So you have cheap

798
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: receiving options right now where you can absorb that kind

799
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: of a contract from a quarterback. So yeah, knowing Nathaniel

800
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: Hackett like we do, I would venture to guess he's

801
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: doing cartwheels down the hall in Denver. We have to

802
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: take a break here. When we come back, more discussion

803
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: on that, as well as the Bills and their free

804
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: agent plans and the work they have to do to

805
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: have any plans at all. We'll be back in a

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00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: moment here on One Bill's Line presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back to One

808
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Speaker 1: Bills Live. We are in the wake of major blockbuster

809
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: trade in the NFL, as it's been reported at the

810
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Broncos have agreed in principle on a

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00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: trade sending Russell Wilson to Denver for what Tom Pella,

812
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: Sero of NFL networkers calling a massive haul multiple first

813
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: round picks plus additional picks and players, per sources. And

814
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: now it is being reported that Drew Locke, the quarterback

815
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: for Denver, is part of the deal. He's going the

816
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: other way. Two. The Seattle Seahawks. Yeah, it's been Adam

817
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: Schefter also chimed in one of the largest trades in

818
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: NFL history. We'll see. We have no idea what the

819
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: details are yet, but man oh man, that's the interest.

820
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: I can't wait to find out. And other news that's

821
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: getting buried in the AFC West, the Los Angeles Chargers

822
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: have successfully resigned free agent wide receiver Mike Williams to

823
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: a reported three year deal worth sixty million dollars, forty

824
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: million of that guaranteed. So Mike Williams has a career

825
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: year and cashes in big time at the rate of

826
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars per season. And then, in some news

827
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: that you really don't care about, another player has been

828
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: hit with the franchise tag. Jacksonville Jaguars left tackle Cam

829
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Robinson has been tagged for the second straight offseason. So

830
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: another player added on the franchise tag list. So I

831
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: think that's everything. We'll wait on the details trickling out

832
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: in terms of just exactly what is going to Seattle.

833
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: But it's interesting Steve mentioned this during the break. Someone said, well,

834
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks gave up a pair of ones for

835
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. How many should they get in return for

836
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson? Four? Probably four? And I don't know they're

837
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: gonna get that, not for a thirty one year old

838
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: quarterback I don't even as good as Russell Wilson. But

839
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: may think about and we talked about this too during

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00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: the break. So you got Mahomes, Josh Allen, You've got

841
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, You've got Trevor Lawrence, and now

842
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: you got Russ Wilson, Derek Carr. Who else is in

843
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: the AFC galley? Who am I'm missing? Well? How about

844
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: the AFC West alone? Mahomes, Car, Herbert, Wilson and Herbert

845
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: have fun with that, have fun with that. And that's that,

846
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: quite frankly, is why Denver did what they did today.

847
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: They have no choice. Without a cornerback, you can't even

848
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: compete in your own division, forget about the conference. And

849
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: they got they gotta get it. They gotta get it

850
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: now too. I mean they can't. What are they gonna

851
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: do wait for Pat Mahomes to play another eight years

852
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: or Justin Herbert to play fifteen. Derek Carson right like,

853
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: right in the midst of his he's the old one. Yeah,

854
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: you know what, Russ Wilson gives him some legitimacy though,

855
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean right away, Oh my gosh, the guy plays

856
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: a nine time Pro Bowl player. The guy can play,

857
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: got a Super Bowl ring, no question about it. He

858
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: can play, two time NFC champion, one of the most

859
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: accurate deep ball throwers in the league. Yeah, so yeah,

860
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean Denver can compete. Now. They were They were

861
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: desperate in every sense of the word. They had to

862
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: pull the trigger on something this big and you know,

863
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: throw caution to the wind. They had to do it.

864
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. Um. People obviously are are

865
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: quoting out the tweet from Pete Carroll at the combine

866
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: last week and he said, we have no intention of

867
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: trading Russell Wilson. Less than a week later, he's a

868
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: Denver Bronco after weeks of negotiation. That well, here's the

869
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: let me ask this group, dynamics, you got to say

870
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: those things. You'll have to say those. Let me ask

871
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: you this. If you if you're the Broncos, was this

872
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: and if then scenario if we can't get Rogers, we're

873
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: all in on Wilson. Is that probably how it went?

874
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: You think Denver well, considering both pieces of news dropped today. Yes, yeah,

875
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean the timing is not a coincidence. He said,

876
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: all right, Rogers is off the table, all in on

877
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: Wilson here we go. Yeah, and that's probably What do

878
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: you think about it? I mean, it makes a lot

879
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: of sense, you know. Um wow, Peter Schrager reporting it's

880
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: not only Drew Lock. There are multiple other veteran players

881
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: and a combination of four draft picks. So we'll see

882
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: how many of those ones too. Got to be at

883
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: least two ones at least, so it's presumably going to

884
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: be a king's ransom for a quarterback who probably intends

885
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: to play for at least another six to eight years,

886
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: maybe longer, because the word on the street is he

887
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: has been a big proponent of learning what Tom Brady

888
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: did to prolong his career because he wants to play

889
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: that long himself. It's been written, it's been said that

890
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson cares very much about legacy, so his own legacy,

891
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: that is, so he wants to play as long as possible.

892
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: All indications are we'll see how long you can go

893
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos. So big news of the day.

894
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: For sure. We have to take a break here because

895
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: when we come back, we're going to be joined by

896
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: spottrack dot com founder and salary cap guru Mike Jenetic

897
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: going to join us on the show here for our

898
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: number two. And hey, if the numbers come in on Rogers,

899
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: we can dice those up with him. But the main

900
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: point here is to dice up the cap situation and

901
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: the work that has to get done by Brandon Bean

902
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: and company. Here at One Bill's drive to not only

903
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: get under the cap, but put themselves in a position

904
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: to do some things in free agency. We talked with

905
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: Mike next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid

906
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. At a Steve Tasker

907
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: who has been all over the field, kind of unique.

908
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you,

909
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: stately Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stragedyre

910
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: of normalcy. All right, Welcome to our number two here

911
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: on its Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasking with you One

912
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: Bills Live as the show. All this stuff's happening. There's

913
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: a lot of things going down here. We hit the

914
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: bewitching hour prior to Free agency with the trade. If

915
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: you haven't heard of Russell Wilson from the Seahawks to

916
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Four draft choices going in the other direction,

917
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: the nature of which we do not know yet, along

918
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: with quarterback Drew Locke, defensive lineman Shelby Harris among other

919
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: players that have yet to be revealed, but here to

920
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: help us sort a lot of that out along with

921
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: the Bills cap situation as they prepare for free agency,

922
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: is the co founder managing editor at spot Track. Also

923
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: hosted the spot Track podcast. It is Mike Jannetti joining us. Mike,

924
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: how you doing? You got your slide rule out for this?

925
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: There's a lot flying at us here in one time. Yeah,

926
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: this is a multiple phone situation right now. Three four announcer,

927
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: blockbuster breaking news items here, so happy to join you guys.

928
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: For sure, certainly we got the word that we're starting

929
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: to hear word that about Aaron Rodgers contract being two

930
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: hundred million over four years. Now we're here and that's

931
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: not quite accurate. Don't know what those particulars are going

932
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: to be. Now. The Russell Wilson trade has also come down.

933
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the timing of those two

934
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: announcements and how they fit together and what did Rogers

935
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: signing the extension lead to Wilson being the last option

936
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: for Denver. Oh, it's possible, you know, certainly the consecutive

937
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 1: announcement makes us think that. But I think the March

938
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: eight date was more about the franchise tag window for

939
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: green Bay than it was about Aaron Rodgers having to

940
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: kind of force the hand here. You know, the DeVante

941
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: Adams situation was probably tied at the hip to Aaron

942
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers decision, and now we certainly know where that's headed

943
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: regardless of what the numbers are going to be here.

944
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: It sounds to me, and I've heard this quite a

945
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: bit over the past couple of weeks, that Russell Wilson

946
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: might have been planned a for Denver, that this was

947
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: in the works for quite a while and it was

948
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: simply about understanding what this compensation was going to be.

949
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see multiple players along with

950
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: those four picks involved here. So if this is going

951
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: to be a big one, it's gonna be franchise changing

952
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: for Denver, who were preparing for this last year with

953
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: in house extensions with some cap casualties to get a

954
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: prime themselves for dropping in a vecteran quarterback like this,

955
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: like they did with Peyton Manning nuts so long ago.

956
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: All right, So with that in mind, Mike Williams looks

957
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: like he's set the early wide receiver market a twenty

958
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: million per three years, sixty million dollars forty million guaranteed

959
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: according to reports that just came down in the last

960
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: ten fifteen minutes. Who was at the top of the

961
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: market last Where was it? Golliday? And like a you

962
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: got like an eighteen million a year deal from the

963
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: Giants and that went over like a lead balloon as

964
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: he struggled to stay healthy. Again, twenty million from Mike Williams, who,

965
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: granted did put up a career year. I know you're

966
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: big on projecting values for potential free agents on your

967
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: site spottrack dot com. Mike, did you kind of have

968
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: him in that window? Or we are we in the

969
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: era of twenty million dollar a year receivers? Yeah, we

970
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: had him about eighteen million, so right around that Galaday number, Chris,

971
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: And to me, Mike Williams is a we're not sure

972
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: wide that he's not even a slam dunk, right, I mean,

973
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: you mentioned the small sample size of him finally breaking out.

974
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: I expect now Chris Godwin to go way north to that.

975
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: And look, Davante Adams has mentioned he's going to break

976
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: the bank. He's gonna reset this whole thing, possibly upwards

977
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: of thirty million per year. So you know, if quarterbacks

978
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: are nearing fifty million a year, everybody else is gonna

979
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: have to slightly come up. And I think that's what's

980
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: gonna happen with this wide receiver. I'm just I'm just shocked.

981
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: It's it's so short. Like if you're gonna commit twenty

982
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: million a year to a guy, now you're gonna let

983
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: him get out of it. I mean for the player,

984
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: it's great, he's getting paid top of the market money

985
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: and he's gonna get out of it at like twenty

986
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: eight twenty nine. Yeah, that's probably exactly what his agent

987
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: was looking for. And I'm a big proponent of that

988
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: small contracts. Player control, you know, control where you want

989
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: to be in terms of the rest of your career

990
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: when you're in your prime, which he is still. Look,

991
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: it could be something that Amari Cooper's contract just scared off, right,

992
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: and Mark Cooper's five for one hundred was never five

993
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: for one hundred, it was two for forty. That's exactly

994
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: what it's going to be at the end of the

995
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: day here. So if I'm Mike Williams agent, I'm saying,

996
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: let's just trim the fat off the back end of that,

997
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: make this a real two two and a half of

998
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: your contract, and then I can control where I go

999
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 1: after that. One of the things that makes it different

1000
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: in this day and age, as we're talking from an

1001
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: old guy here, players do play longer now. The game

1002
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: they do protect these guys. The head and neck contact

1003
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: has been alleviated to going low, the peel back blocks,

1004
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: all the you know, the quarterbacks in particular are going

1005
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: to play longer because they're safer, and players I think

1006
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: feel better about betting on themselves for a year and

1007
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: a half thinking, Okay, I'm not gonna get wrung up

1008
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: physically and I will be able to play well and still,

1009
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, and walk out of here healthy. Now you

1010
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: do get the occasional you know O b J who

1011
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: non contact ACL, same thing with a Todavious White non

1012
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: contact ACL. Those are the ones that kind of crush you.

1013
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: But the physical injuries that guys get, now, those are

1014
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: less and less common. Guys taking shorter contracts, playing hard

1015
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: for a year and hitting another financial home run seems

1016
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: more and more prevalent. Yeah, it's a great point. And

1017
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: by the way, those injuries that you mentioned there, that's

1018
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: not even stopping teams from paying. You know, God wins

1019
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: a great example that he's about to get, you know,

1020
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars here from somebody Tampa Bay or somebody.

1021
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: And you know his injury was as bad as any

1022
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: of them here. So all of it's kind of comfort

1023
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: full circle. I'm a big fan of this small short

1024
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: and sweek getting get out and even to the degree of,

1025
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: you know, you had a rough season, you're hitting the

1026
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: open market. Take that one year deal. Take a one

1027
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: year deal with value with incentives built in to build

1028
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: up your resume, you know, do it with a contender,

1029
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: get yourself in the postseason, get yourself out, you know,

1030
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: like Obj did, and you'll have no problem cashing in again. So, Mike,

1031
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: we were kind of reviewing Brandon being his comments from

1032
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: the Howard and Jeremy show this morning here on WGR

1033
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: and basically the takeaways I got from it, and you

1034
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: can tell me if you feel differently they're not going

1035
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: to be in a cap position to get a veteran

1036
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: defensive end of any kind of significant money because of

1037
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: where they currently sit with the cap situation, unless they

1038
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: do some drastic things and really clear some money out. Second,

1039
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: they've yet to discuss contract extension with Stefan Diggs, which

1040
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: I saw as an option to kind of create more

1041
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: cap space, and you can make the argument that he's

1042
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: underpaid in light of his last two years of production.

1043
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: And then the other thing was the fact that they

1044
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: I was trying to read the tea leaves here and

1045
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, instead of going into free agency and trying

1046
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: to get a supplemental piece at wide receiver, maybe do

1047
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: at a tight end where the cost isn't as high

1048
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: as the wide receiver position. So maybe just walk through

1049
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: what you think of those three things. Basically, no Diggs

1050
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: extension talk, yet, defensive end market going to be hard

1051
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: to find anybody worth their value with the cap situation

1052
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: they're in. And then finally the last part about maybe

1053
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: looking for a lesser cost position to help on offense. Yeah,

1054
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: first off, my initial takeaway was be prepared for boring.

1055
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're heading for. Here a little bit,

1056
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: just kind of temper your expectations of splashy moves this offseason,

1057
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: and I think that's right. To me. What Brandon Being

1058
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: has to do most right now is solidify his culture,

1059
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: solidify the way he does business during this time, because

1060
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: just because they're a winning franchise now and you know,

1061
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: not certainly all the way, but doesn't mean you have

1062
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: to go off course and go off track and make

1063
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: big decisions just because that's what Twitter is saying we

1064
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: should do, you know, and I think that's kind of

1065
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: what I read from him was We're going to be

1066
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: slow and steady and go through this process piece by piece,

1067
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: and there isn't a need for Stefan Diggs right now,

1068
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: even though I'm out there saying I think it is.

1069
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: It is the right move. I think they should align

1070
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: the guaranteed money for Stefan Diggs with Josh Allen over

1071
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: the next three to four years and link those two together.

1072
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: But it's not necessary. He's got two years left, and

1073
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: if Brandon Bean's not the kind of GM that's going

1074
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: to extend a player with two years left, then he's

1075
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: got to hold to that um. In terms of the rest,

1076
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm with the tight end market. It's a big tight

1077
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: end market in terms of free agency and in the draft,

1078
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: but it's a bigger wide receiver market in the draft.

1079
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you do there, whether it's

1080
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: a second round pick, whether it's with that first round pick,

1081
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: can you can supplement a w R two or three

1082
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: immediately out of the gate? In this draft based on

1083
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: the talent, we're seeing four or five six options, So

1084
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: I expect that's the process. I don't think you're going

1085
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: to see a lot of major names coming in here,

1086
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: and if they are major names, they're probably older major

1087
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: names to make sure that that cost is a little

1088
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: bit suppressed. What do you think the rookie pool will

1089
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: have to be this year? Any ideas I meant we

1090
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: got around I was eight million? Do you think that

1091
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: was just a dart I'm throwing We've got it about

1092
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: eight internally here. But I expect the trade back, so

1093
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a little less than that

1094
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: with a trade back. Oh yeah, with everything. Yeah, and

1095
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: also and all the crush sure of today, forget Aaron Rodgers,

1096
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: forget Russell Wilson. Now that Seattle, it looks like Seattle

1097
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: is gonna get Denver's number nine overall pick. All. The

1098
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: mock drafts are moot. That's why, that's why I'll never

1099
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: get everybody who's doing a mock draft today, just like

1100
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: H and I gotta do it. I gotta redo it

1101
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: now it's all, it's all wasted. Oh my gosh, what

1102
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about what this means too?

1103
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: Because we got another hot, top flight Cord We've been

1104
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: talking about this, another top flight quarterback in the AFC.

1105
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: Russ Wilson comes over. I think probably San Francisco chipped

1106
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: in one of their first rounders to get him out

1107
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: of the division, and they'll throw a first rounder into

1108
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: Denver as well. Say thank you very much. What do

1109
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: you think about? You know how this is gonna shake out? Now? Okay?

1110
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: Kyle Kyler, Murray, uh, Matt Stafford. And that's where I stopped.

1111
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: Where's the other An Rogers? You're talking about NC NFC quarterbacks? Now?

1112
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: Who jamis Winston? There you go, that's your next h

1113
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: Who's take over there? Besides those guys Jimmy Garoppolo, he

1114
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: doesn't mean, come on, Steve's beside himself, Kirk Cousins, justin Field,

1115
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Dak Prescott. Okay, yeah, there you go, Dak,

1116
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: Thank you. Washington's got me a one sided league right now,

1117
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: there's no question. I mean, the ABC West is ridiculous

1118
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: right now, right It's ridiculous. So it's tough sledding for

1119
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: these bills come come January, come February, there's no question

1120
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: about it. But you know, I think I think everybody

1121
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: here likes what we saw and I don't think we

1122
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 1: need to shake this thing up too much. I think

1123
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: this is a strong, deep roster. It's probably four or

1124
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: five cap casualties coming that I would expect throughout the roster,

1125
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: and like I said, four or five replacements via free agency.

1126
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: But it's a big draft. It's a big draft for depth,

1127
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: for immediate depth on this team at some of these

1128
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: positions we're talking about. But the quarterback stuff is it's

1129
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: not going away. We're not done yet either. You know,

1130
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's about to get forty five million a year

1131
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: Kyler mur you mentioned there. He might get forty five

1132
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: million a year here in the next couple of weeks

1133
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: based on what we're reading out of Arizona. And look,

1134
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson might get a new contract in Denver now

1135
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,959
Speaker 1: as well. So this money is it's absurd, but it's

1136
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: in line with how this game is being played and

1137
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: how the business of it is working on. You mentioned

1138
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: cap casualties for the Bills, which I think we all

1139
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: agree is probably going to have to happen to some

1140
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: extent for the Bills that have enough money to work

1141
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: with not only with their draft pool, but to maybe

1142
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: resign a couple of their own and to perhaps be

1143
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: somewhat of a marginal player in free agency, because the

1144
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: fact remains they have fifteen free agents still, so those

1145
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: are holes to fill, whether you're filling them with the

1146
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: guys that are the free agents, or you're looking somewhere

1147
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: else free agency or the draft. You know, Cole Beasley

1148
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: I thought was a candidate for that. Now he's got

1149
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: permission to seek a trade, But who's biting on that

1150
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: when most teams out there probably know that short of

1151
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: a trade, the Bills may have to move on from

1152
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: him anyway. Yeah, that's usually how it works. If anything,

1153
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: that's going to be a late round pick, or he'll

1154
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: be packaged into a bigger deal since something what we're

1155
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: seeing here with Denver, So it's possible. We've seen it

1156
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: happen before. But the wide receiver market is so deep

1157
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: everywhere you look. I just think that a name like Colby's,

1158
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: he's not going to hold too much weight out there

1159
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: right now, right And what do you think his market

1160
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: value is if if the Bills, if he is released

1161
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: and comes back as a total free agent, that's probably

1162
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: getting cut in half. If he's a six million dollar

1163
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: player now, he's probably about three three and a half

1164
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: on the open market. So it's possible that a team

1165
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: recognizes that and just simply restructures his current contract if

1166
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: they pick him up for a seventh round pick. But

1167
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: I do think at the end of the day, he

1168
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: hits the market and probably leaves town. I think the

1169
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: Bills will look to replace his position specifically in the

1170
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. Here, Mitch Morris is a player

1171
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 1: that you know, kind of sticks out like a sore

1172
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: thrumb with his contract. He did, you know, restructure last

1173
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: year to help the team. You could argue he had

1174
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: his best season in a Bill's uniform last year, I

1175
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: mean really played well, played all seventeen games, was one

1176
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: of the most consistent performers up front, knowing that there's

1177
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: a possibility here, Mike, that other cap casualties exist on

1178
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: the offensive line, whether it's John Feliciano or somebody else.

1179
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: Do you think they make a difficult decision on Morse

1180
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: or do they go to him first and maybe just say, hey,

1181
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: would you be willing to work this again? Paycut? Do

1182
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: you extend him a year? What do you think is

1183
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: the best option there? Yeah, I don't know if you

1184
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: can go to him again and ask, because I think

1185
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: once you go there once, you're probably, you know, playing

1186
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: with fire to do it again. If it happens to me,

1187
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: it's one of the last moves that Brandon Bean tries

1188
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: to make to free up cap space. I agree with you,

1189
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: I think he yet the relationship with the ALM last

1190
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: year was really good and probably could take another year

1191
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: to figure that out. I'm in the I'm in the

1192
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: camp that you restructure Mitch Morse and you push some

1193
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: something into twenty twenty three and you stick this could

1194
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: offer twenty twenty two, because I do believe they'll move

1195
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: on from Fleeciano and I don't want to shake things

1196
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: up too much in terms of cap casualties on that

1197
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: offensive line, even though from a draft standpoint, I think

1198
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: that's definitely one of the top three picks. We're getting

1199
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: starting to get some of the details on the Seattle

1200
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks Denver Broncos trade. Looks like the the Broncos get

1201
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and one fourth round picked from the Seahawks,

1202
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: but the Seahawks get two ones, two twos, a fifth,

1203
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: Drew Locke, Shelby Harrison, No a fan. Oh they got

1204
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: no a fan. No a Fan's kind of a get

1205
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: I think yeah, big, yeah, I think Locket and DK Metcalf.

1206
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: That's not bad. That's attractive for a free agent quarterback

1207
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: like oh, I don't know, Mitchell Trubisky. And also that

1208
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: gives you lock right, that also sets set. That also

1209
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: sets sets the Seahawks to possibly grab a guy in

1210
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: the draft like the Kenney Pickett or one of the

1211
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: tools he guys, one of the guys. You know that

1212
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: when when Josh Allen came out, the Seahawks loved him

1213
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: because of his tools. You know, they like they like

1214
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: toolsy players, right, pick it falls into that, right, a

1215
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: guy with a big arm and an athletic and one

1216
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: of those guys. So now the sudden. Seattle could replace

1217
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: Russ Wilson right away and do what they did in

1218
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: two twelve with a rookie quarterback. Yeah, this could be

1219
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: a total rebuild on the fly with that kind of

1220
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: compensation coming back if they hit that quarterback. But look,

1221
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: they could go free agency. They could go trade as

1222
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: well if they want to really do this thing on

1223
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: the flight quickly and bringing a vet turn like a Garoppolo.

1224
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: I guess a Kirk Cousins could be sitting out there

1225
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: for a trade if they need it. Yeah, this is

1226
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: this is a big, big pullback for Seattle, no question. Yeah,

1227
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: it is all right. So how much cap room do

1228
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean we were trying to add it up in

1229
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: our head here, Mike, you need about eight million for

1230
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: the rookie pool. You need about six and a half

1231
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: just to get under the cap numbers that I mean,

1232
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: you're fourteen and change right there. What do you need

1233
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: in addition to that to at least fill your holes

1234
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: in free agency? Like fill a handful of holes in

1235
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: free agency anyway, so you're not completely overmatched entering the draft, right,

1236
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: So let's bring it to seventeen million with a tender

1237
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: for Ryan Bates, which is a slam dunk. That's two

1238
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: and a half million right there. Barring an extension, you've

1239
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: got to free up probably another twenty million, minimum twenty million,

1240
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: just to give yourself some kind of wiggle room. And

1241
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: I know this isn't a big restructure organization, and rightfully so,

1242
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: there's there's pros and cons, but there are a few

1243
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: contracts just kind of sitting there to do it. Guys

1244
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: who are going to be here for three four years.

1245
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: You know, tried Avius, Dion Dawkins, just some really strong contracts.

1246
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I touched Josh Allen until next year

1247
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: the way that that that contract is structured. But look

1248
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if they're four or

1249
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: five million short, then you just extend Stefan Diggs. I

1250
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: think it'd be comfortable at that point saying, you know,

1251
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: this guy's certainly going to be here. We could free

1252
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: up the cap space by adding, not subtracting at that point,

1253
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: and that's certainly on the table, even if they're right

1254
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: now he's trying to say it's not for negotiation purposes,

1255
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: And what about a player that is at least a

1256
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: polarizing figure among the fan base. Tremaine Edmunds obviously fifty

1257
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: year option year at twelve point seven. Logic would say

1258
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 1: extension option there if they want them, you know, long term,

1259
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: But it seems to me they're still wondering what he

1260
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: is in terms of true value long term. Anyway, they

1261
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: were fine picking up the option, but beyond that, I

1262
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: don't want to say, I don't want to put words

1263
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: in their mouth as to how they feel. But if

1264
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't get extended, because you look at that as

1265
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: another option to kind of alleviate things with your cap situation,

1266
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: oh no question. I mean you could free up four

1267
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: or five easily. They're knocking down that fifth year option

1268
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: for Edmunds. I'm with you, I'm not hearing the right

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Speaker 1: things from anybody, and some of that is I'm hearing nothing,

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Speaker 1: which you know is not good for the player. Generally,

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Speaker 1: this organization has shown that they'll let guys go to

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Speaker 1: the end. You know, Matt Milano, those kind of players,

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Speaker 1: good players, players of Harrison Phillips. This year, run your

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Speaker 1: contracts out and we'll deal with it through the offseason.

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Speaker 1: And if not, if we get out priced, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're confident that we can find a replacement. So I

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Speaker 1: expect that's the route they go. I don't think Tremian

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01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: Edmonds is a franchise tag candidate knowing the linebacker numbers right,

1279
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: which are way too high in terms of what he

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Speaker 1: would make on an annual basis. So I just think

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Speaker 1: we're headed towards a path of free agency and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, this time next year he'll be a big,

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Speaker 1: big what if. Yeah, I agree with that they do

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01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,799
Speaker 1: have there. There are gonna be some some tangible changes

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Speaker 1: on this roster. I said this a little bit ago,

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01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: that this is why head coaches and coaching staffs are

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01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: paid a lot of money and GMS and everybody they're

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01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: they're built and paid to replace guys and coach them

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Speaker 1: up and get them to replace guys who have played

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Speaker 1: well for the franchise this club up until now. And

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01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: I think there we're seeing a little bit of the

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01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: victim of their own victimization of how well they've done.

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01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: Nobody knew Levi Wallace was going to be an undrafted guy,

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01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: was going to be a five year start or four

1295
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: year star at that level and take on all comers.

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01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: Nobody knew Taryn Johnson was going to be a guy

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01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: who showed up and was an absolute rubber stamp starter

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01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: from the day one, the two safeties hiding Poyer, Tardavious

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01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: White Good and Tremaine Edmonds and Milano. You can down

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Speaker 1: the list. These guys have shown up and played really,

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Speaker 1: really well. Now it's up to the club to replace

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01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: them with the same quality of guy and let them

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01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: go make their money someplace else. That's hard to do, man,

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01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: the coaching. It's a really great point though, and maybe

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: something we're undervalue in throughout the league. You know, we

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01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: give so much credit to the GM and being able

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01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 1: to kind of pluck and find those kind of players

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01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: that fit the system. But you know, a lot of

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01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: it is immediacy of coaching these players up so that

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01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 1: there is no gap, so that there is no big

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: letdown at any one position, and that is what the

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01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 1: Bills have shown. Now, Look, there's something to falling in

1313
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: love with your players too much as well. Yeah, I

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01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: think in Buffalo we remember that those those glory Sabers

1315
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: years where everybody kept coming back and back and back

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01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: and back, and there really wasn't turnover on that roster,

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01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: and I think that bit them in the end. I

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: really think that's what you held them back from from

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01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: being successful to the final point. So there is a

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Speaker 1: need for turnover in my opinion in some cases, and

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01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: we will see that. I think Levy Wallace as a

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01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: candidate to leave this offseason. There's a chance Harrison Phillips

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Speaker 1: gets priced out, like I mentioned, but I agree with you.

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01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 1: I would trust that the GM and the coaching staff

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01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: collectively have the pieces in place and then know how

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01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: to immediately coach up new players and get them ready

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Speaker 1: to go. Here. Last one I've got for you, Mike

1328
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: is this not to look too far into the future here,

1329
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: but you and the cap is going up presumably to

1330
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: a report at two thirty, which is great news. But

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01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: at the same time, you look at what's on the

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01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: horizon for the Bills. As we already mentioned decision on

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01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds. You're going to have Ed Oliver in his

1334
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 1: fifty year option year, and then you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: take care of Gabriel Davis. You're gonna have to take

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01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: care of Dawson Knox, and then you're gonna have I mean,

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01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: you've got You've got some important pol playing major roles

1338
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: that are going to be looking to make big money

1339
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: on their second contracts. It's like, even if you get

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01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: out from under all of this now, next year, it's

1341
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: almost like an albatross. It's gonna be right back again

1342
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: with some of the quality young talent you have on

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01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: this roster. Yeah, and potentially throw Stephane Digs into that

1344
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: conversation if they wait one offseason, which could be you know,

1345
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: half of your wide receiver Arsenal up for contract again.

1346
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: You know, the contracts that have been signed over the

1347
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: past year and a half, especially last offseason, have been

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01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: either add or under our projected values. Not not that

1349
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: we're set in stone or you know, our numbers are gold,

1350
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: but mathematically speaking, that would that would mean that the

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01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: Bills are getting some sort of hometown discount, and it

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01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,799
Speaker 1: would be my impression that that's how they would continue

1353
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: to operate. We have a number, we have a bar,

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01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: we won't go over it, and if you go find

1355
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: a price that you want to take elsewhere, we will

1356
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: replace you and try to make it work on our end.

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01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: So I don't think there's going to be a point

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Speaker 1: with any of these players, and I include Allen. I

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01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: think even Josh Jalen's contract is fair value for what

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01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: he has done and what his ceiling is going to

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01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: be over the next three years. I just think there's

1362
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 1: a point and there's a price on every player right

1363
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: now internally in the Buffalo Bills organization, and there's no

1364
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: going over that. And that's very Patriots esque to bring

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01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: that back in the last last ye, last one I've

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01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: got for you. And one of the things it is

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01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: about value. You get a guy like Gabe Davis who

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Speaker 1: has played extremely well and overperformed his maybe his draft status,

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01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. The problem is this, and it's

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01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: a little bit like the running back position. Most teams

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01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: ain't gonna pay running back or take a running back

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Speaker 1: top five O world. They get him in the third round,

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01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: fifth round, sixth round, replacement, rookie free agents and all that.

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Speaker 1: Wide receiver. On the other hand, everybody is neck Every

1375
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,839
Speaker 1: draft is neck deep and wide receivers who are starting quality.

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01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: Every team's got three or four of those guys. Certainly

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01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: they're all a little bit different. But a guy like

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, when his number comes up, hey, there's four

1379
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: more just like him in the draft this year, we

1380
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: can pick one up at pick number one oh three

1381
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Right, Certainly, he won't be Gabe Davis

1382
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: a four year veteran, but he'll be Gabe Davis in

1383
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: his rookie year, that kind of thing. So the position

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: that these guys play may have as much to dictate

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01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: about how much movement there is as any. We got

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01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 1: two tight ends that are on the franchise. Take they're

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01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: ten point eight. That's a low number for a position

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01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: that a lot of teams wish they had that guy

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01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: more than anything, because they're so hard to find. I

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01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 1: think position analysis and what importance teams actually place on

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01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: those has as much to do with and also the

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01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: prevalence of those players out there so many wideouts, not

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01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: that many tight ends, so many running backs, you know,

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: not that many left tackles, you know what I'm saying.

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01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 1: So it's as much about the scarcity and the importance

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01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: of the position as it is about the guy you've

1397
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: actually got on your roster. So you know, there's positions

1398
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: of prime that we like to call it, and certainly

1399
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: the wide receiver is one of that. But because of

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Speaker 1: the supply demand situation you're making, this is the third

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01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: trade off season where I can say that there are

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01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: at least a dozen free agent slash trade block wide

1403
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: receivers available, and a phenomenally deep first and second round

1404
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: of wide receivers three in a row. So at some

1405
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: point there's going to be a breaking point with a

1406
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: player like Gabriel Davis who's looking for twelve million to start,

1407
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: and you know, most of the of the contenders in

1408
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: the league simply won't do that because they can't do

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01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: that from a cap perspective or a cash perspective. So

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01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: I understand that part of it. The difference is the intangible,

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01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: right if he's got a relationship with Josh Allen that

1412
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: is just too important to this roster. That's where money,

1413
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: the money in the business side of it kind of

1414
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: has to take a back seat at some point, because

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01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen that issue with the big boys

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01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: with Rodgers, with Brady. There are certain guys that they

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01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: just gell they just click, you know, Edelman with Brady

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01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: for instance. I think Ellen Lazard with Rogers right now

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01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: is going to be a point of contention over the

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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks in terms of his contract. If

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01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: there's that kind of relationship that's you know, furthered over

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01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: the next season here, then his contract may become as

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01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: important as any of these ones we're talking about. Mike,

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much for the time. We know you're gonna

1425
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: be a busy man over this next week plus, so

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01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: enjoy crunching all the numbers and getting your site updated.

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Speaker 1: We'll be watching. Thanks guys, appreciate it all right. That's

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Speaker 1: my Janety spot track co founder and managing editor. Great site.

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Speaker 1: If you're interested in the cap figures and things like that.

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01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: He is right on the cutting edge of all of that.

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01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: As it happens, he's probably madly scrambling to his site

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01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: right now to see if there are figures in on

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01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: the Rogers contract yet, to see if Russell Wilson is

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01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 1: in line for an extension with or a new deal

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01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: of some kind with the Denver Broncos after being traded

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01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: just a short time ago. Do we have full terms yet,

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01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: Steve On, Let's see here trade package. Seattle gets Drew Lock,

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01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: Noah Fan, Shelby Harris, two first round picks, two second

1439
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: round picks, and a fifth round pick. The Broncos get

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01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and a four That is a haul. Yeah. Now,

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01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: the question is are all of those picks for this year? Well,

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01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 1: obviously the two firsts and the two seconds are not

1443
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: in the same year. But what I'm saying is, are

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01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: three of those five picks this year? That's what I'm

1445
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: Saull gets back to two ones that traded for Jamal Adams,

1446
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: gets a second, two seconds, fifth, and three players Lock, Shelby, Harris,

1447
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: nor Fan And if it's of one this year, it's

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01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: the Broncos number nine overall pick. They need a top

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01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: ten pick. Yeah, for that, that's big and I think that,

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01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: you know, that's probably why they only had to part

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01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: with two first rounders, not more than that, right, because

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01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: it's top ten. Yeah, and I and I agree with it,

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01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: but I mean that's a I mean, Russ has got

1454
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 1: to sit sitting there thinking. And for the Broncos, Yeah, okay,

1455
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: that's fine. They'll be able to compete now, no question.

1456
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: I wonder it's easier. Is it going to be easier

1457
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 1: to sell the Broncos with Russ Wilson at quarterback and

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01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: Drew Lock A little bit right, A little bit, a

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01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: little bit of buzz there, even nine time pro bowler

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01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Come by your season tickets. They're probably people

1461
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: are probably blowing up the phones right now. Oh yeah,

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01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: we have to take a break when we come back.

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01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: We'll get some of your thoughts on the tweet sheet.

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01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: Take your phone calls as well. Here on One Bill's Live,

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01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,000
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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. There is some more news. Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: A reporter Tim Silverstein is reporting that Davante Adams has

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01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: been told the Packers will put the franchise tag on him.

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01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: All going to become official right before the deadline here.

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01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: Adams does want a long term deal and the Packers

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01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 1: will have to pay him a lot, especially in the

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01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: wake of the Mike Williams deal. How much of the

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01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers cursing the Chargers right now? That deal

1475
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: Mike Williams just signed for twenty million per ye. But

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01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to pay him a lot of money obviously,

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01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, getting in even done with Rogers presumably helps

1478
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 1: negotiations with Adams because he knows his number one quarterbacks

1479
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: going to be there for the foreseeable future. But you're

1480
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: talking probably a little more than twenty million a year

1481
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: now for Davante Adams after Mike Williams got twenty per

1482
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: so have fun with that. Yeah, how does that affect

1483
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: Does this contract of Mike Williams affect the cap the

1484
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: franchise number for wideouts? Got to drug? No, No, it

1485
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 1: only affects it the year following. Okay, so it doesn't

1486
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: go into the pool right now. It's based on twenty

1487
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: twenty one stuff. At least a last I checked, it

1488
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: was maybe a change in the new CBA, but that's

1489
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: the way it had always been. Diana Rassini is also

1490
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: saying that talks between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and free

1491
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: agent wide receiver Chris Godwin are ongoing. She was told

1492
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 1: they are getting there. They're still working. They are apparently

1493
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 1: racing to beat the clock on the four pm deadline

1494
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: to use the tag because short of a deal, they

1495
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: are going to tag god when it's presumed so and Godwin,

1496
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, as a torn acl that he's coming back

1497
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: from so interesting that they'll put the tag on him

1498
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 1: if they can't get a long term deal done there.

1499
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: So things are happening around the league, at least for

1500
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: teams that are in a position to get some of

1501
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: their own people resigned and spend some money. Now a

1502
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: week before the market opens, so We'll see if there

1503
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 1: are any other headlines to report as we move forward.

1504
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: But let's go to the phones and waiting for us.

1505
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: There is Peter and Hamburg. What do you have for

1506
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: is Peter? You're on one Bill's Live. Yeah, guys, Oh,

1507
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: it's just call it about that Denver trade. If I

1508
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: was Seattle, I would be looking for somebody other than

1509
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: Drew Lock. Yeah. I would be very disappointed in that trade.

1510
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 1: I think Denver one out on that deal. Well, I mean,

1511
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: let's let's wait and see what they can make of

1512
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: the two first round picks in the two second round picks, right,

1513
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's a chick and another franchise quarterback

1514
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: in the draft, now, you know we all have to

1515
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: resist his cat to salary. Who cares? He's on his rookie,

1516
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: on his rookie killing it. Okay, Yeah, he's young and

1517
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: I and I they get a top ten pick back

1518
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: from Seattle or from Denver, so they're gonna pick number

1519
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: nine overall, which give and with the two two's coming

1520
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: back to him and two two one, I would look

1521
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: at another somebody because of that. I would look at

1522
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: somebody other than the quarterback from Denver. And you would

1523
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: look at what you're saying. You wouldn't have traded for

1524
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 1: Drew Lock getting the quarterback. Oh you wouldn't trade for

1525
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: Drew Lock? Then no, no, I got I would go

1526
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: with somebody else with Denver. Yeah, that's my point, because

1527
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: they have any options because they draft a low next

1528
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: this year, they're gonna draft the nine. Right, so that's

1529
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: where you could fill the void, right, right, that's all

1530
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, so now you wouldn't use Lock, yeah, yeah,

1531
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,839
Speaker 1: but with somebody else more valuable, right, Yeah, I wouldn't

1532
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: worry about its placeholder. Yeah, Locke's not gonna play any

1533
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: downs for them. They did it so that they had

1534
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: a guy on their roster. Probably, but um, I think

1535
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: and it's probably a safety net. I think. I'm with you.

1536
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Drew Locke's gonna play quarterback for the Seahawks.

1537
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: And if and in that case, maybe maybe you could

1538
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: say they should have traded for a different positional player,

1539
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: a better player like a right guard or a tackle

1540
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: or tight end or something. They got no a fan,

1541
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: so all of those things put in the mixture. Right,

1542
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: Drew Locke to me, is a is a He's a

1543
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: placeholder that he's a backup. That's like, that's a paint job.

1544
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: You know, he's not he's a backup. Yeah, he's not

1545
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: even a backup. Um. There is also reports that the

1546
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,480
Speaker 1: Patriots in Dolphins would be two of the more interested

1547
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 1: teams in Amari Cooper if he is released by the Cowboys,

1548
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 1: which it seems as though it's headed in that direction

1549
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: as they try to get under the cap Cooper being

1550
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: paid twenty million a year already. And as we heard

1551
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: my continuity say last segment when we had him on

1552
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: from spottrack dot com, even though it was a five year,

1553
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars contract for Amari Cooper a couple

1554
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: of years ago, in essence, it was a two year,

1555
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 1: forty million dollars deal. And here we are after two years,

1556
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna get thrown overboard. What do you

1557
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: think about Amari Cooper for either mac Jones or Tuah,

1558
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 1: he'll help. Yeah, yeah, Amari Coopers will be as good

1559
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: as well. It'd be as good as anybody the Patriots have,

1560
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: certainly as good as anybody or almost as good or

1561
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: if not better than anybody the Dolphins have. I mean,

1562
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: he'll go to the top of their depth chart, no

1563
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: question about it. Cooper played well for the Cowboys, I

1564
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: don't think for some reason. I guess you know it's

1565
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:56,520
Speaker 1: the ownership. But the Cowboys seem to like players just arbitrarily.

1566
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is a good player for them and has

1567
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: some has has some ability. But they're gonna pay Zeke

1568
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: Elliott twenty million. And I get it. I mean, Kamari

1569
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: made twenty million dollars a year for two years. That's

1570
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: great money. I don't know why they don't like him. Well,

1571
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: his consistency dropped off this past year. And if you

1572
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: compare his average yards per game this season, think you

1573
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 1: know who the cop is for him, Corey Davis, the

1574
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver for the Jets. Yeah, their yardage production is comparable.

1575
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: That's not a twenty million dollars receivers, I get it,

1576
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: neither Zeke. Zeke's not a twenty million dollars player either

1577
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. He's made seventeen sixteen So so

1578
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I okay, Yeah, And I'm sure the

1579
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: Patriots and the Colts, I mean, the Patriots and the

1580
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: Dolphins wouldn't be the only two teams interested into MARII Cooper. Yeah,

1581
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: They're said to be very interested. They're looking to find

1582
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: like a true number one to add to their receiving

1583
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: core to help their young quarterbacks. We'll see maybe Amari

1584
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: Cooper is one of the newest editions in the AFC East.

1585
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: Back to the phones and to Jim in South Carolina

1586
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: to the Palmetto State, we go, what do you got

1587
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: for us, Jim? Jim? Are you there all right? Jim?

1588
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 1: Unfortunately we can't connect with you. Apparently asleep at the

1589
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 1: wheel in the Palmetto State. That's unfortunate. Must be nice

1590
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: weather down there. He was going to talk about Gronk

1591
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: a little bit, which brings us back to the conversation

1592
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 1: we had Steve with Mike and earlier in the show

1593
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: that I suggested, if you're this tight against the cap

1594
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: and you can't spend big free agent money on a

1595
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: receiver to add to the fold, the more affordable option

1596
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: is to go the tight end route and maybe get

1597
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: another one of them that costs less money. And Mike

1598
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: did point this out, and he's right. There is decent

1599
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: depth on the free agent market at tight end and

1600
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: in the draft. In fact, Brandon Bean said as much

1601
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: when we had him on the air. Last Tuesday, he said,

1602
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: because I asked him. The last question I asked him

1603
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: was where do you see depth in this draft? That

1604
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: what positions? And he threw in tight end at the

1605
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 1: very end. He said, Oh, I'm tight end two has

1606
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 1: some good depth. Yeah. Here's the here's why I shy

1607
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: away from that, because the Bill's got a tight end one.

1608
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 1: First of all. Right, second of all, if you get

1609
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: two of them and you put them both on the

1610
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: field all of a sudden, you're slow. And but are

1611
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 1: you effective? Well, I said, you know, if you're effective, Okay,

1612
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: I can I can live with that. But it's going

1613
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: to be an effectiveness that is, you know, I'm like

1614
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: everybody else. I want to see him go down the field.

1615
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: I think you gotta stretch the field vertically. There's one

1616
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: less gown the field that can do that for you

1617
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 1: when you go too tight, you know, And maybe they'll

1618
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: maybe his teams will start going two tight end zero

1619
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: running backs. And I've thought about this too with the

1620
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: with the emergence of um Deebo Samuel for the San

1621
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers and the way that Isaiah McKenzie's

1622
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: worked in by the Buffalo Bills and other players like that,

1623
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara being split out as a running back. Is

1624
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 1: there a trend or will there'll be a trend going

1625
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: forward of putting athletes on the field that are wide

1626
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: receivers with bills that, hey, I'm gonna line him up

1627
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: and hand him the ball once in a time, once

1628
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 1: in a while in the backfield. You talk about position versatility,

1629
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 1: are guys like Deebo Samuel going to become more and

1630
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: more common Teams saying, you know what Isaiah McKenzie say,

1631
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: For instance, we're gonna line you up a tailback a lot.

1632
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna be in the backfield a lot. Once in

1633
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: a while, we'll hand it to you. We're not gonna

1634
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: give it to you do anything stupid like give you

1635
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: on a dive play at the goal line. But it

1636
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: gives us the opportunity to get you on the field

1637
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: as a wide out and then put three other white

1638
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: outs on the field and they got to play you

1639
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: like a running back because we're gonna hand it to

1640
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: you enough to do that. So I'm thinking positions football

1641
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: that we've been talking about off and on for a

1642
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 1: couple of years may happen at a greater level, but

1643
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: at wide receiver running back rather than linebacker, safety kind

1644
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: of thing. You're also under the assumption that McKenzie has

1645
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: resigned by the Bills. Isam McKinsey's just a name, Yeah,

1646
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: just anybody, Deebo, Samuel, Isaia McKenzie, Alvin Kamara, you name it,

1647
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: one of those. You know, Christian McCaffrey, the way he's

1648
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: used in Carolina. All these guys that can play wide

1649
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: receiver and be there effectively with their speed, also have

1650
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: the wherewithal to carry the ball out of the backfield

1651
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: once in a while. We have to take a break here,

1652
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 1: but when we come back, we'll tell you the other

1653
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: NFC team that was hot and heavy after Russell Wilson

1654
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 1: but obviously came up empty because the Seahawks did not

1655
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: want to trade him in conference. We'll tell you which

1656
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 1: team that was when we return here on One Bill's

1657
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: Live presented by Klota Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. So

1658
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,839
Speaker 1: the other team that was hot and heavy after Russell

1659
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:02,560
Speaker 1: Wilson before he was officially traded to the Bronco today

1660
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 1: where the Washington Commanders steve They offered high picks in

1661
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 1: each of the next three drafts to the Seahawks for

1662
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. This is being reported by Albert Brier from

1663
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated. But it became apparent to the Commanders that

1664
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 1: Seattle preferred to trade him out of the nfcum which

1665
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: is presumable. Which that was also the issue and the

1666
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: sticking point with Aaron Rodgers. They did not want to

1667
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: trade him to a team in conference either, if they

1668
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: were going to entertain that at all. And this is

1669
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: that we'll never know about this, and maybe we will. Um.

1670
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: You gotta wonder the willingness Russ Wilson would have to

1671
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: wave his trade no trade contract to go to Washington

1672
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: football team East Coast. I think they were probably he

1673
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: wanted to stay West. He did Denvers as good as

1674
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: they could do outside the outside the conference on the West.

1675
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: No other West team in the AFC is gonna do

1676
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: it because they all got their quarterback. But Denver's good

1677
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: mountain time and it's quick flight to La Yeah, I mean,

1678
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: I get it. And plus with the recent history of

1679
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders, you know I might I might just

1680
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 1: live in Seattle stay there, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1681
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: So you know, Calvin Ridley got suspended for at least

1682
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season for betting. Do you know

1683
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 1: they have bets out on who the next NFL representative

1684
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:27,879
Speaker 1: will be that places a bet you could bet on anything.

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Speaker 1: This is out of control. I'm plus twenty thousand to

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Speaker 1: one or something. Antonio Brown's the favorite at plus three fifty.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow one