Speaker 1: Ib Are you as excited as I am for this
Speaker 1: week's episode about Jackie Robinson and Jacques Cousteau, two grates
Speaker 1: that moved bravely into uncharted waters. Something about you being
Speaker 1: in full Scooba gear tells me you are. Yes. I
Speaker 1: am wearing my Dodgers hat. My son and I are
Speaker 1: big Dodger fans. It seems like a lot of work
Speaker 1: to get into full Scooba gear for the episode. Why
Speaker 1: didn't you just wear Jacques Cousto's signature red stocking cap? What? WHOA? What?
Speaker 1: I said? Because I was having a good hair day. Okay, Eric,
Speaker 1: will you please play us in What do you think
Speaker 1: you know about? The game? Is to get some energy
Speaker 1: and burkle up your brain? Because it's time to play
Speaker 1: the most podcast because it's sound live from Tom Baland
Speaker 1: or so called So Cow Los Angeles. Welcome to Who Was?
Speaker 1: The History quiz show that gives contestants the chance to
Speaker 1: win mega prizes and podcast Glorie, I'm your announcer, b
Speaker 1: who puts the B in benefer And here's your host
Speaker 1: a turn signal in human form, it's Elliott Kaylin, Thank
Speaker 1: you be. I'm gonna take it us a compliment and
Speaker 1: welcome everyone to Know Who Was podcast. You know, the
Speaker 1: show is like Jeopardy, only with surprise guests, silly games,
Speaker 1: and a Devil May Care host. Thank you. Our contestants
Speaker 1: were sent Who Was books about two great figures from history.
Speaker 1: Now they're here to show off their knowledge in the
Speaker 1: hopes of winning fantastic prizes. Today we're talking about Jacque
Speaker 1: coin Staux and Jackie Robinson or is I like to
Speaker 1: say Jackie is Jacques because it sounds like a French
Speaker 1: New Way film. So true, foe, that's a French film job.
Speaker 1: Now let's get to know our contestants. First up, we
Speaker 1: have Abastus Augustus. Will you please tell us a fun
Speaker 1: fact about yourself? All, I love faithball and I'm a
Speaker 1: tap dancer. Have you ever thought about combining the two
Speaker 1: and playing baseball? But you have to tap along the
Speaker 1: baseline to get between the bases. That's a good idea.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll have to try that one day. Please do,
Speaker 1: and if it works, give me the credit. I would
Speaker 1: really appreciate. It would get my sports dance career off
Speaker 1: and running. And also joining us today, we have Milo Milo.
Speaker 1: Please introduce yourself. I'm Milo I love baseball and I
Speaker 1: love comedy. You know, Milo, have you ever thought about
Speaker 1: combining the two? And so you have to run but
Speaker 1: in like a funny way between the basis not really
Speaker 1: all right? Well think about it again. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get this sports comedy career off the ground, so anything
Speaker 1: you can do to help me would be much appreciated.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, there's also a movie that combines U that.
Speaker 1: It's a I think it's called is it Major League
Speaker 1: Feel of Dreams something like that? Um? Is it a
Speaker 1: League of their Field of dream Zone. It's called Angels
Speaker 1: in the Field of Dreams Baseball, the movie based on
Speaker 1: the novel of the same name coming to a theater
Speaker 1: near you. Thank you both, and thank you to Eric
Speaker 1: Are musician for providing that lovely live Meet the Contestants music.
Speaker 1: So that's who is. Now let's find out who was.
Speaker 1: Jacques Cousteau, with four fast Facts, invented scuba gear in
Speaker 1: nineteen forty three, one multiple film awards for his underwater
Speaker 1: documentaries in the nineteen fifties and sixties, pioneered important oceanic
Speaker 1: research fund to protect the ocean for future generations. Pets,
Speaker 1: as Jacques might say, Bama or not bad. Speaking of
Speaker 1: not bad, let's move on to our first game. It's
Speaker 1: called true or false? True or false? Is false? Is
Speaker 1: it false? Or is the true? Is the truth that
Speaker 1: it was false? It was true? Or true? True orful?
Speaker 1: Thank you Eric for this game. B will read a statement.
Speaker 1: You the contestant who has asked the statement or told
Speaker 1: the statement, Well, then let us know if the statement
Speaker 1: is true or false for one point each. First question
Speaker 1: is for Milo, take it away be Jacques would one
Speaker 1: day win Academy Awards, but his first film was recording
Speaker 1: his cousin's wedding? Is this true or false? That is true?
Speaker 1: You're right, that is true. Jacques had an early love
Speaker 1: of filmmaking, and his first movie was actually his cousin's wedding.
Speaker 1: Jacqu went on to have a great film career. No
Speaker 1: word if his cousin's marriage was as long or as illustrious.
Speaker 1: We can only hope. Next question is for you, Augustus.
Speaker 1: When it came to transportation, Jacques was a triple threat.
Speaker 1: He could get around just as well flying a plane,
Speaker 1: driving a fast car, or captaining a boat. True or false? True,
Speaker 1: You're right, that's true. Jacques thought he might become a pilot.
Speaker 1: When he was younger, an injury prevented him from going
Speaker 1: pro A swimming regime was prescribed to help from recover,
Speaker 1: which led to his amazing career in the exact opposite
Speaker 1: of the sky, the ocean. Next question is for Milo
Speaker 1: be taken away. Jacque named his diving apparatus Scuba because
Speaker 1: he developed it while diving off the coast of Cuba.
Speaker 1: So when people ask which country was responsible for his
Speaker 1: new suit, he'd answer a skullaw to think that might
Speaker 1: be false, as amazing as it would have been. You're right,
Speaker 1: it is false. That's true. That's correct. Scuba actually stands
Speaker 1: for self contained underwater breathing apparatus, which means I guess
Speaker 1: that the country Cuba's name stands for contained underwater breathing apparatus.
Speaker 1: That's just how I understand it. Yeah, we'll have to
Speaker 1: fact check that. Yeah. Next question is for Augustus. True
Speaker 1: or false. Jacques had a hit documentary TV series called
Speaker 1: The Weird and Wacky Jackie that showed him playing pranks
Speaker 1: on fish, squid, and sea turtle. That's right, it was false.
Speaker 1: He had a TV show called The Undersea World of
Speaker 1: Jacques Pusteau that showed life underwater and help people to
Speaker 1: understand why it was important to protect our oceans and seas.
Speaker 1: He did not frank fish, although the weird and wacky
Speaker 1: Jackie definitely sounds like priss DG DV to me, I
Speaker 1: would watch it. How do you even frank a fish
Speaker 1: of true? True? And that's the end of the game.
Speaker 1: We'll never know how to prank of fish, I guess
Speaker 1: Producer Jane, what are our scores? Elliott? You might be
Speaker 1: shocked to find out both of our contestants made a
Speaker 1: great splash with that first game. They're tied up to Nice.
Speaker 1: It's truly anyone's game, anyone's game that was especially Augustus
Speaker 1: or Mile because they're the ones playing it right. Yes,
Speaker 1: the yeah, wait do you hear that it sounds like
Speaker 1: someone breathing underwater? Well, yeah, and it's not me. I'm
Speaker 1: out of my diving gear and into my evening where
Speaker 1: lady and gentlemen, everyone listening at home. It's Jacques Cousteau himself.
Speaker 1: May we I am here, but the cords by way
Speaker 1: of the who what? Who was that you wanted to
Speaker 1: meet someone in the past. Indeed, yes, I wanted to
Speaker 1: chat more about my best invention, and perhaps the best
Speaker 1: invention ever in the history of inventions, self contained underwater
Speaker 1: breathing apparatus or the Scubah. Wow, we I'm so proud
Speaker 1: of this device. Did you know that it was one
Speaker 1: of many pieces of undersea equipment I invented to help
Speaker 1: in the French Navy's War Afrie And speaking as a
Speaker 1: lover of acronyms, it is such a cool acronym. It
Speaker 1: was much better than the other acronyms I came up
Speaker 1: with before I settled down SCU B A scuba. I
Speaker 1: had a couple of other ideas, but all of my
Speaker 1: friends told me that the acronyms made them sound how
Speaker 1: you say bad? Come on, it's such a great invention.
Speaker 1: The acronyms couldn't have been that bad. Will you be
Speaker 1: the judge. The first name idea I had was Jacques
Speaker 1: underwater not a co kiit or j U n K joke,
Speaker 1: and it is not junk. It is the opposite of junk.
Speaker 1: Another one was underwater necessary container of oxygen lifesaver or
Speaker 1: U n c O l un cool. But breathing underwater
Speaker 1: is track tray tray cool. Yeah, and then there was
Speaker 1: this one which I don't think it's an actual word,
Speaker 1: but people still told me it sounded weird. The sure
Speaker 1: Fire Underwater Security s U s SUS. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Elliott Jacques doesn't seem sus to me. I'm not so,
Speaker 1: I promise, but you can see why after all that
Speaker 1: trial and error we went with s C. You'll be
Speaker 1: a scoop. But when you're trying something new, the important
Speaker 1: thing is not that you don't make mistakes, but that
Speaker 1: you learn from them. That is very well put. Jock. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know when you're out at sea you have a
Speaker 1: lot of time to stare into the middle distance and contemplate.
Speaker 1: But I have a question for our contestine. Please ask away.
Speaker 1: They'll be great. I love taking adventures. As I said,
Speaker 1: when one man has the opportunity to lead an extraordinary life,
Speaker 1: he has no right to keep it to himself. And
Speaker 1: I wonder what are the most fun adventures these young people. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll give our contestants a moment to ponder that as
Speaker 1: they stare into the middle distance, and we'll be right
Speaker 1: back after this short break. Eric, play us out with
Speaker 1: some underwater music. Please yea anglerfish, We're back with the
Speaker 1: Who Was Podcast? Today we're learning all about Jackie Robinson
Speaker 1: and are in studio guest Jacques Gusto. Back to your host,
Speaker 1: Elliot Kaylin, Thank you be Jacques. What was it that
Speaker 1: you asked our contestants just before the break? Well, Elliott
Speaker 1: I was wondering what is one of their most favorite
Speaker 1: adventures that they have taken? Them saves, so real life
Speaker 1: adventures that are real contestants have really had. Augustus, Let's
Speaker 1: start with you. What's what's one of your favorite adventures? Well,
Speaker 1: technically I am Colonel and Canada because we technically crossed
Speaker 1: the invisible line between the United States and Canada when
Speaker 1: Canada was closed. I didn't know that because the driver
Speaker 1: of the he just said, okay, now we're in Canada now.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that makes us an international
Speaker 1: FEU didn't, but I sure hope not. Were they chasing
Speaker 1: you when you had to leave? Was there like a
Speaker 1: Canadian mountie? Yeah? Were the mounties on a horse on
Speaker 1: a boat? Yeah? Yeah, Well they didn't they didn't see us.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of salmon fishers, but they didn't
Speaker 1: see us, and they weren't like Lores a get out
Speaker 1: of Canada, Canada, Stuffy leave the French to Jacques. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a mistake of me. Well, Augustus, we really
Speaker 1: appreciate you were coming out of hiding to to be
Speaker 1: on the show today, uh, knowing that you could be
Speaker 1: risking your very freedom. Thank you. It's an exciting adventure.
Speaker 1: And Milo, do you also have an adventure? It doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be one that involves being an international criminal,
Speaker 1: but it should involve salmon fishers. Yeah, it's possible. So
Speaker 1: we went to Portugal just like a very fun vacation
Speaker 1: and one day where it was really raining part and
Speaker 1: and it's amazing as your thing, it's like an enter
Speaker 1: and it was so good. Well did I have like
Speaker 1: a topping on it? And wasn't more like a chocolate
Speaker 1: thing or a caramel or a car amount or like
Speaker 1: a berry thing or yeah, it just was flat and
Speaker 1: it's just so good. I mean, a dessert adventure is
Speaker 1: a pretty great adventure. I'm a surprise was raining and
Speaker 1: portual because I was always under the instanding the rainfall
Speaker 1: mainly in Spain, in Spain which is just right next door.
Speaker 1: But that's I mean, that sounds like a delicious adventure
Speaker 1: and frankly safer in the short term than being on
Speaker 1: the run from Canadian salmon fisherman, but less safe in
Speaker 1: the long run because you should always eat healthily kids, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: watch that cholesterol. So we both had some dangerous adventures
Speaker 1: today from our contestants. Very exciting. Well, thank you both
Speaker 1: for sharing your stories. Jacques, let's take it back to you.
Speaker 1: We have some French people in Canada. I don't believe
Speaker 1: they told me anybody snuck in, so perhaps if you
Speaker 1: were not seen, but listen, I must have been going.
Speaker 1: Make sure to protect the oceans. Kids. Thank you for
Speaker 1: having me and thanks again forgetting me here. Who what's appy?
Speaker 1: Always such a pleasure to meet dead people vietnapp? Yes,
Speaker 1: investing in those app developers was a real home run
Speaker 1: if you ask me. And speaking of home runs, excellent
Speaker 1: Segway b. Thank you. Let's get to know more about
Speaker 1: our other famous figure, Jackie Robinson with four fast facts
Speaker 1: fast gas, broke the color barrier in Major League Baseball
Speaker 1: in nineteen star college athlete who excelled in many sports,
Speaker 1: the only retired jersey number across all Major League Baseball
Speaker 1: teams in all of American sports history. Civil rights Pioneers.
Speaker 1: So I mentioned at the top of the show, my
Speaker 1: son and I are big baseball fans, and specifically Dodger fans,
Speaker 1: because we're in Los Angeles, and I'm wondering if our
Speaker 1: contestants are sports fans. Are you you like to play
Speaker 1: baseball or you like to watch baseball? Because I know
Speaker 1: you're both baseball fans. I definitely both. Yeah, both. And
Speaker 1: in fact, if my grandfather was alive, I don't think
Speaker 1: he would like you because he was a huge Brooklyn
Speaker 1: Dodgers fan. Oh few, I thought you were gonna say
Speaker 1: he didn't like people wearing glasses. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: not very nice. It's possible. You know, he probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: like you because of the Doggers, because he was a
Speaker 1: huge Doggers fan when they were in Brooklyn. But then
Speaker 1: when he was alive, he hated the guy who moved them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they broke his heart by moving from from
Speaker 1: Brooklyn to Los Angeles. I understand that I also broke
Speaker 1: a couple of hearts when I moved from Brooklyn to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. I'll tell you that much. The city is
Speaker 1: still really is the team that people loved, ay those
Speaker 1: don Yankees, but Augustus. I gotta ask, who's your favorite
Speaker 1: Yankees player of all time, whether or not you got
Speaker 1: to see them in real life. I'm probably say Marianna Rivera. Oh,
Speaker 1: Marianna Rivera's where I did get to see Mariann Rivera
Speaker 1: play and it was astounding. It was just it was amazing.
Speaker 1: But my question is, can this Rivera person can they
Speaker 1: tap dance on the diamond on the court, on the
Speaker 1: baseball court. I don't know. Well, he well he didn't
Speaker 1: really run the bases as a as a closing picture,
Speaker 1: but you know it's but maybe he tapped it, maybe
Speaker 1: tap danced up to the up to the mound each time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I was younger, I was a Yankees fan before
Speaker 1: was a Dodgers fan, and I always liked Chuck Moblock
Speaker 1: because he really needed a hug. It always looked like
Speaker 1: he needed a hug. There are some baseball players and
Speaker 1: football players that just looks so sad like today, So
Speaker 1: you know who he is, Chad Green. He always looks
Speaker 1: like he's about to cry and just breaks my heart. Well,
Speaker 1: that's very sweet. It's hard work being an athlete, hard
Speaker 1: work being a baseball player, and you know, just knowing
Speaker 1: that no matter how you feel that day, you have
Speaker 1: to wear the same clothes that you wore every other
Speaker 1: day and the same clothes that your rest your team
Speaker 1: is wearing, and sometimes you just want to wear a
Speaker 1: different hat. Do you have a favorite baseball player? Um?
Speaker 1: My favorite baseball player was Rosie O'Donnell in a league
Speaker 1: of their own. Okay that's fair. Yeah. Well, Also, speaking
Speaker 1: of favorite baseball players, one of my truly favorite baseball
Speaker 1: players is Jackie Robinson, and he led such an incredible life.
Speaker 1: It's nearly impossible to encompass everything he did with one
Speaker 1: history podcast quiz show, but we'll cover what we can
Speaker 1: in our next game. This one is called play by play.
Speaker 1: Play by plays beautiful, Thank you Eric. We will narrate
Speaker 1: the events in Jackie's life like a play by play announcer,
Speaker 1: and our contestants have to identify what is happening. We're
Speaker 1: where it happened for one point each basically summarize for
Speaker 1: us what's going on in this scene and bringing us
Speaker 1: a pitch perfect announcer voice for this game is our
Speaker 1: golden voiced in turns, Zach. So our first questions for
Speaker 1: augustus take it away, Zach, there's Jackie Robinson. Is he
Speaker 1: up at the plate? No, he's just a baby in
Speaker 1: his mother's arms. She's carrying him onto a train with
Speaker 1: his siblings. It's late at night, folks, almost midnight, midnight
Speaker 1: train from Georgia, and the train is off. Okay, Augustus,
Speaker 1: can you tell us what's going on? Where are they going?
Speaker 1: I don't remember where the train was going, but I
Speaker 1: think it was one of his first memories of like
Speaker 1: being with his mom on the train. You can. Can
Speaker 1: you remember why they're on the train because his father
Speaker 1: was a personal assistant for an American millionaire, so they
Speaker 1: had to follow him around all the time. No, that
Speaker 1: was Jacques Cousteau, whose father wasn't oh boy, he gone,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Unfortunately us you mixed up your jacks
Speaker 1: and your Jackie's. That's okay. It happened to anyone that
Speaker 1: it was one of Jackie's earliest memories. But it was
Speaker 1: when his mother took her children from their home in Cairo, Georgia,
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles to escape the Jim Crow laws of
Speaker 1: the South and a kind of life as a sharecropping
Speaker 1: farmer that she thought her children deserved better than. So
Speaker 1: that was a great try. What our next question is for? Milo?
Speaker 1: Zack taken away with the play by play and Robinson
Speaker 1: is in uniform, but it's not a baseball uniform. He's
Speaker 1: in front of a judge arguing for his innocence. He's
Speaker 1: talking about his grandmother's lessons about slavery. He's talking about dignity,
Speaker 1: he's talking about courtesy, and what's the verdicts going to be?
Speaker 1: They're finding him innocent. It's a win for Jackie Robinson. Okay, Milo,
Speaker 1: can you tell us what is happening in this play
Speaker 1: by play? What is interns at talking about? Um? He
Speaker 1: was wearing a military uniform and he was arguing for
Speaker 1: his innocence, and he was arrested because he was sitting
Speaker 1: next to so many he knew who had lighter color
Speaker 1: and skin but was still Agrican American, and he was
Speaker 1: mistaken to be breaking the law by sitting next to
Speaker 1: somebody who is not in color. That's right, Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 1: He's in military court in that scene. He is arguing
Speaker 1: because he was arrested for sitting next to someone they
Speaker 1: thought was a different race from him. In Texas, where
Speaker 1: the segregation laws were still in effect. He was stationed
Speaker 1: there as a soldier at the time, and he argued
Speaker 1: his case and from the military court and he was
Speaker 1: found innocent. Okay, next question, Augustus, Let's listen to intern
Speaker 1: Zach and his golden voice. Jackie Robinson approaches a man
Speaker 1: at a desk. The man is telling Jackie Robinson he
Speaker 1: wants him to play for his team. He's asking him
Speaker 1: if Jackie can keep his temper if he's called names,
Speaker 1: or if a player throws a pitch on his head,
Speaker 1: or if a player slides into him cleats first. And
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson is saying yes, he's signing some papers. He's
Speaker 1: going off what he did it? He did it, Augustus,
Speaker 1: what's happening in this historic moment? What did he do?
Speaker 1: His higher branch, Rocky, He asked him to come to
Speaker 1: his office because in Brooklyn, because he was putting together
Speaker 1: quote unquote a new need real league team. And the
Speaker 1: truth was he was actually trying to get Jackie on
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Dodgers, but just in case any of the
Speaker 1: media reporters found out, they would have a field day
Speaker 1: about it, so he was trying to keep it secret.
Speaker 1: But when Jackie found it out, he said yes, and
Speaker 1: he was extremely happy. That's right. He's in the office
Speaker 1: of Dodgers manager Brent Ricky and Brent Tricky. I actually
Speaker 1: live right near Brent Trickey's own office. It's not like
Speaker 1: a bank, is it a branch of a bank? Well,
Speaker 1: a little lit a little bank humor. Oh, that's a
Speaker 1: little bit. That's some bank wordplay. But you're right. Brent
Speaker 1: Tricky is offering him a position on the Dodgers, and
Speaker 1: he's warning him it's not going to be easy. America
Speaker 1: is still segregated place. He's gonna be the first player
Speaker 1: of his skin color in with they referred to as
Speaker 1: the professional Major Leagues, and he decides he is up
Speaker 1: for the challenge. Great job of Gustice, that's great, thank you,
Speaker 1: and I would like to commend you for getting a
Speaker 1: field day in. There is another work play things a
Speaker 1: baseball pun We love it. I love it. Let's let's
Speaker 1: keep the baseball plans coming. Okay, but I actually didn't
Speaker 1: mean to do it. From Some of the best plans
Speaker 1: are accidental. Next question is for Milo. Let's go Zach
Speaker 1: take it away. Jackie Robinson is on the field. The
Speaker 1: people in the stands are booing him. They're badgering his
Speaker 1: teammates too. Oh, here comes another member of his team.
Speaker 1: But wait, he's putting his hand on Robinson's shoulder in
Speaker 1: a sign of friendship. Who is this teammate? His teammate
Speaker 1: is Peewee Reese is best friend in baseball who really
Speaker 1: helped him a lot. That's amazing, And you're exactly right.
Speaker 1: It's Pewe Rees. He was the Dodgers shortstop there at
Speaker 1: a game in Cincinnati, and he came over and being
Speaker 1: also a Southerner, someone who many people wouldn't have expected
Speaker 1: to be friendly to Jackie Robinson because of his skin color,
Speaker 1: he wanted to show that no, their comrades on this team,
Speaker 1: their teammates, and it sent a big message to the
Speaker 1: fans and the rest of the team. And it just
Speaker 1: goes to show that little gestures can say a lot
Speaker 1: when it's the right gesture at the right time. Great job,
Speaker 1: there's a fantastic answer play by playing sports, and that's
Speaker 1: the end of the old ball game. Let's check in
Speaker 1: with producer Jane for the box scores. Well, Eliott, both
Speaker 1: of our contestants headed out of the park. However, my
Speaker 1: low has gone ahead in this inning with four points.
Speaker 1: And Augustus has three. That's great. It's still a very
Speaker 1: close game, though still a close game, so close it's still,
Speaker 1: as they say in sports, anybody's game. Yes, thank you
Speaker 1: very much, Jane. Besides careers that could have been described
Speaker 1: as home runs, what else to our J and j
Speaker 1: gentlemen have in common? We'll find that out after the break.
Speaker 1: Eric play us some national pastime musically is peanuts and
Speaker 1: cracker Jack? He who was ours? Want to share a
Speaker 1: fun fact we missed? Tell us who to call on
Speaker 1: the who Was? At? Maybe tell us what you think?
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln smelled like what I'm trying to say is
Speaker 1: we want to hear from you, So send us an
Speaker 1: email or voice memo at the who Was Podcast at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Starter and we're back with the Whos podcast?
Speaker 1: We laughed leaf up. Milo had four points and Augustus
Speaker 1: had three points. Back to you, Elliott, those scores are
Speaker 1: pretty close, but it might be about to change. Let's
Speaker 1: get right to the next great game. Did you just
Speaker 1: hear that heavenly music as if we were contemplating the
Speaker 1: heights of Athenian classical democracy? Oh well, that music means
Speaker 1: it's time for our final game. Converge of greatness. You know,
Speaker 1: both Jackie and Jacques had incredible lives, and in this
Speaker 1: multiple choice game, you're gonna tell us where they connect,
Speaker 1: overlap or converge. It's another play on words. We love them.
Speaker 1: And because recovering two times the history, this game is
Speaker 1: worth two points for each question, so it really could
Speaker 1: change the balance of the game. Let's get started with
Speaker 1: the first question for Augustus take it away being Jacques
Speaker 1: gustav partly grew up in New York City and Jackie
Speaker 1: Robinson played for the Dodgers, a team originally from Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: New York. What were the Dodgers named after? Is it
Speaker 1: a people in Brooklyn dodging the trolley cars, be the
Speaker 1: character of the Artful Dodger from the Charles Dickens book
Speaker 1: Oliver Twist. Or see it's actually pronounced the Dogers and
Speaker 1: it was named after doge coin. That's right. The correct
Speaker 1: answers a dog corner is like so September So you said,
Speaker 1: you're saying we're out of day. When it comes to
Speaker 1: cryptow we gotta keep up to date on the latest
Speaker 1: crypto trends. We try, we look, we're trying our best,
Speaker 1: but You're right the answer even if we don't know
Speaker 1: we're talking about you do. The correct answer is A
Speaker 1: from dodging trolley cars in Brooklyn. Of course, the name
Speaker 1: stuck when they moved to Los Angeles. Only out here
Speaker 1: they're dodging the limousines of the famous movie stars. Next
Speaker 1: question is for Milo. Both Jacques and Jackie had strong
Speaker 1: relationships with their brothers. Jackie had Frank and Mac, and
Speaker 1: Jacques's brother went by this nickname. Was it A T Bone,
Speaker 1: B PAC or p A C or C d D.
Speaker 1: It was B, that's right. The answer is B for
Speaker 1: his initials here Antoine Custo d D was a longtime
Speaker 1: friend of Jacques, and T Bone is just a really
Speaker 1: cool name. I wish people would call me that more.
Speaker 1: The next question is for Augustus Jacques a Jackie. Both
Speaker 1: traveled with their co workers. Jacques lived with his crew
Speaker 1: aboard the Calypso, but Jackie Robinson had to stay separate
Speaker 1: hotels from his teammates because of segregation laws known as
Speaker 1: a jim Crow laws be apartheid or see sharecroppers. That's right.
Speaker 1: The answer is a jim crow. Those gim The Jim
Speaker 1: Crow laws were state and local statutes that legalized racial
Speaker 1: segregation for a very long time. The next question is
Speaker 1: for Milo b all right, Milo, speaking of solid teams,
Speaker 1: Jackie had the Dodgers. But what did Jacques call his crew?
Speaker 1: Was it a aquanauts, be man fish or see custos
Speaker 1: Cutie's pretty sure. I'm sorry the answer is a aquanauts.
Speaker 1: Jacques fellow researchers, divers and scientists were called aquanuts. Custos
Speaker 1: cutis are, of course, those clementine oranges that you can
Speaker 1: eat underwater. And that is a joke to close out
Speaker 1: the game. While James Telly's up the points, I want
Speaker 1: to hear more from our contestants. Okay, So Milo, is
Speaker 1: there something that you learned about either Jacques or Jackie
Speaker 1: that we didn't talk about in the show today, or
Speaker 1: that we did even that really surprised you. Well, I
Speaker 1: know Jacques Cousto before this because my dad has this
Speaker 1: huge book of Wes Anderson movies, and I'm guessing that
Speaker 1: Wes Anderson made a movie about him. He made a
Speaker 1: movie that was inspired by him, certainly that was about
Speaker 1: an undersea explorer. Yeah, it was called The Life Aquatic.
Speaker 1: But that's an interesting thing that someone's real life can
Speaker 1: inspire a story about a fictional character. You never know
Speaker 1: when you're a famous historical figure, just what your legacy
Speaker 1: will turn into in the hands of a capable artist.
Speaker 1: That's true. I guess the human imagination at work and
Speaker 1: play in the field of history. Is that? Is that
Speaker 1: how you wanted to phrase it? Milo? Where my putting
Speaker 1: words in your mouth? I don't know. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just waiting to hear the scores. To guy, I think
Speaker 1: it would be fun to win this, but also great
Speaker 1: if we could tie. That would be fun. Okay, Milos
Speaker 1: on pins and needles, he really want to set out. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll get to them. We'll get to them. But before
Speaker 1: we get to that score, though, you'll be in suspense
Speaker 1: for just a little bit. I want to hear from
Speaker 1: Augustus to Augustus. Is there anything that really surprised you
Speaker 1: or stuck out to you about Jacques or Jackie and
Speaker 1: their life stories. I admire that they both broke barriers,
Speaker 1: but in much different ways, from being the first black
Speaker 1: player on the MLB to making the Scooba gear. I
Speaker 1: really admire that even when they made mistakes or the
Speaker 1: stuff that weren't working. They both kept going and they
Speaker 1: never gave up. Thank you both so much for sharing
Speaker 1: your thoughts with us. But now, okay, Milo, the suspense
Speaker 1: is about to be over. It's time for the big moment. Jane,
Speaker 1: please announce our winner. Elliott and b I don't mind
Speaker 1: telling you that it was touching go there for a while,
Speaker 1: but in the end it was Milo with six points
Speaker 1: and Augustus with seven points. Augustus is our winner today,
Speaker 1: break game, Milow, you did amazing. What a rollercoaster right,
Speaker 1: you are amazing Tomorrow, congratulations, Thank you Augustus. You have
Speaker 1: ten seconds for your special shout outs. Who would you
Speaker 1: like to thank? I would love to shout out to
Speaker 1: my family, including my sister's baby Yo did all and
Speaker 1: as of course Jacques Cousteau and Jackie Robinson, and I'd
Speaker 1: also like to shout out to their families and me
Speaker 1: Low for being a great contestant and being really nice.
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. That was really sweet of you. That's great,
Speaker 1: that's wonderful. Augustus, you and your school library will receiving
Speaker 1: a set of Who Was books. I'm going to give
Speaker 1: a shout out myself to intern Zach to Jane to Eric,
Speaker 1: to Brian McCann for being our Jacques Coustou and to be,
Speaker 1: and a big thank you to both of our contestants
Speaker 1: who played an amazing game that was fantastic. And thank
Speaker 1: you to you at home, or maybe you're not at home,
Speaker 1: maybe you're in a car, on a plane for listening.
Speaker 1: You the listener, please subscribe and like who Was on
Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you
Speaker 1: get your podcast join us. Next week we're going to
Speaker 1: find out who the next two exciting historical figures are
Speaker 1: in the Who Was Podcast. Until then, this is Elliott
Speaker 1: Man Fish Kalin saying we're history. Goodbye. Everybody got a
Speaker 1: question for any of our famous figures, send us a
Speaker 1: voice memo at who Was Podcast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: It might just end up on the show. Who Was
Speaker 1: Podcast is produced by Radio Point, I Heart Media and
Speaker 1: Penguin Workshop, based on the best selling who h Q
Speaker 1: series published by Penguin. Who Was Podcast is hosted by
Speaker 1: Elliott Calin with co host Megan O'Neill as b also
Speaker 1: starring Jane Baker as Producer, Jane, Eric Shackney as Eric,
Speaker 1: Zach Timpson as our golden voiced intern, and Brian McCann
Speaker 1: as Jacques Cousto. The executive producers are Richard Corson, Alex Bach,
Speaker 1: Elliott Calin, Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder. The
Speaker 1: executive producer for Penguin Workshop is Francesco Sadita. The executive
Speaker 1: producer for iHeart Media is Lindsay Hoffman. This episode was
Speaker 1: written by Megan O'Neil, Elliot Klen, Zach Timpson, and Jane Baker.
Speaker 1: This podcast was produced by Bernie Kaminski. Our talent producer
Speaker 1: is Jane Baker. The theme song and music were composed
Speaker 1: and performed by Eric Shackney, edited and mixed by Bree Mattan,
Speaker 1: recorded by Joanna Samuels. Special thanks to Zach Timpson, Charlotte Dianda,
Speaker 1: Daniel Goodman, and Michael Lewis Howard, who was podcast was
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