1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to the Better Happy Hour. I'm 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena and we are here today with Nicole. Nicole, 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: welcome to Batcher Happy Hour. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me you guys. Nice to meet you 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: and let's go for it. Yeah. 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: You, before before we started recording, you mentioned that you're 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: from Chicago. 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: I am. I mean, I'm kind of a New Yorker, 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: but I did grow up in the Midwest and Illinois 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: and then lived in Chicago. 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, well part well, part, where did you 12 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: grow up? 13 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: I grew up in Champagne, Orbana. My dad was a 14 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: university so but you know, after that, moved to Chicago 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: and uh lived in Lincoln Park where my kids, you know, 16 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: eventually went to high school, and then uh lived downtown. 17 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: Oh nice. Wow. Yeah, so yeah, I'm from I'm from 18 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: Melrose Park, but I did live in Lincoln Park for 19 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, and then I lived in like the 20 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: west the West Looper, Yeah, the west Loop area I 21 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: lived for a while. 22 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Cool. I liked the west Loop. Yeah, I love I 23 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: lived right downtown at Lakeshore Driving Walton, and I just 24 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: I loved that location. I just love being down there. 25 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: Nice. 26 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: Where are you now now I'm in Miami. I moved 27 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: to Miami full time about three and a half years ago. So, yeah, 28 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: Miami Beach. 29 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: What brought you there? 30 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: My second husband actually from New York. We were living 31 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: in New York and we decided to, you know, get 32 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: a place here, and then COVID happened, and then a 33 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: divorce happened, and I stayed because because I love love Miami. 34 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, we're in New York now, and you know, 35 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: the winters definitely make Miami sound appealing. 36 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the winters are hard in New York. And I 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: was working when I was living there to it. I 38 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: just just literally for one year, but I the commute 39 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: just to work in the blizzards and the cold just 40 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: about did me in. That's tough. 41 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean well, I mean Chicago's worse than all of. 42 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: Them, which is why I can't live there anymore. 43 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, where do your kids live? 44 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: They both live in Chicago. They're both married, and they 45 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: both live in Chicago, and I you know, I mean, look, 46 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: they're young, and they're hearty. They can make it through 47 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: the winter, but I can't. 48 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: What did your what did your kids think of you 49 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: going on the Golden Bachelor. 50 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: Well, they were so supportive. My daughter especially, She's been 51 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: watching The Bachelor forever and I hadn't watched it, and 52 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: I hadn't even watched the Golden season one. So with 53 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: so she flew into Miami and together we binged Golden Bachelor, 54 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: Golden Bachelorette. This was before I was cast, but in 55 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: the process and she you know, gave me. She she 56 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: schooled me on on all things the Bachelor, so it 57 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: was very helpful. 58 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: What else did you do to prepare for the show? 59 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: Well, how did you how did you get how did 60 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: you get on? 61 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll answer both those. I got on because I'm 62 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: a I'm a yoga instructor, but I'm just also a 63 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: very I practiced yoga almost every day, and my yoga 64 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: friends at the studio where I go usually, they kind 65 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: of circled me one day and said, you know, we 66 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: think that you would be absolutely perfect for the Golden Bachelor. 67 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: And I said, oh my gosh, I have to find 68 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: out what that even is. And then I said well, 69 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: and they said we're going to sign you up, and 70 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: I said, no, no, no, please, don't do that. Let me 71 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: go research it and if it looks good I'll do it, 72 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: and they were kind of like, well, if you don't 73 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: in a week, we're signing you up. So we're going 74 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: to submit your application. But it looked really good. Of course, 75 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: I knew what The Bachelor's you know, franchise was, I 76 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: just hadn't really watched much of it. But yeah, and 77 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: I thought, you know what, I am uniquely qualified for this. 78 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to do this. And so I sent in 79 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: the application and then I call, Yeah. 80 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: You said that you felt you were uniquely qualified for 81 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: the show. 82 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: How so Yeah, I just I think I I well, 83 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: I for one thing, I've had two marriages and two 84 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: divorces and other love relationships, and I just I feel 85 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: like I've gotten I've gotten to know myself really well, 86 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: first of all in relationship. And I also I think 87 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: I've learned a lot about how to be in a 88 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: relationship and to really be in a conscious, deep relationship. 89 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: And I also think I'm uniquely qualified because I think 90 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 2: I just you know, I have a bubbly personality. I'm 91 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: not shy. I go for it in life, and you know, 92 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't know i'd like to. I really wanted to 93 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: find love genuinely. But I also knew that only one 94 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: of the bachelor arts would you know, you know, take 95 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: his heart, so the rest of us would gain amazing friendships. 96 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: I knew that would happen, and it did. And just 97 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: I really I just thought I was suitable for that 98 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: kind of experience. I did well. I emotionally, I was happy, stable, 99 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: you know, in my element most of the time. So yeah, 100 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun. 101 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: How long did what marriage lasted? Longer your first one 102 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: or your second one? 103 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: Kids? 104 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Are your kids are from your first marriage? 105 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? That it was a thirty year relationship. Yeah, that 106 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: was one. And yeah, both both of my children are 107 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: from my first husband. 108 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: About years How old were you when you got married 109 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: the first one, Well, we. 110 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: Met at nineteen and I got married at twenty three, 111 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: so yeah. And then my second husband, we were together 112 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: for ten years, so it was not short either, and 113 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: it was meaningful. So just we were out of alignment 114 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: in some ways. 115 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I think, So do you do me asking? But do 116 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: you get along with both your exes? 117 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: I have the most wonderful relationship with both of them. Great, 118 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: I love them both and they're both wonderful men, and 119 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: I feel very, very grateful to have such a close 120 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: you know, relationship with both of them, especially the second, 121 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: especially the second. 122 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you find out you're getting on the show, 123 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: how are you feeling? What's going through your mind? 124 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: I knew I was manifesting getting on the show. It 125 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it was going to happen, but I 126 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: really manifested it. I really called that. 127 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: It makes sense. You do yoga, you manifest, I manifest. 128 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have to be at that vibrational frequency, 129 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: so that's a match. So it can be a frequency match. 130 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: And I really felt like I was, and I really 131 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: I envisioned it from the very beginning. I envisioned not 132 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: just the process of getting the call that I was 133 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: going to be cast, but I just envisioned the whole experience. 134 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: And it wasn't too different from how I envisioned it. Actually, 135 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like nothing I've ever experienced. But at 136 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: the same time, you know, in terms of how I 137 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: felt or how I wanted to approach it, you know, 138 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: it wasn't too different. But yeah, I manifested that. And 139 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: so when I got the call, I was actually on 140 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: a flight and she said, can you call me? She texted, 141 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm trying to call you, and I said, I'm actually 142 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: on a flight. Can I call you when I land? 143 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: And she said yes, And then I was so tired 144 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: I texted, can we just talk tomorrow because I didn't 145 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: know if it was really the that call? And she 146 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: said no, and then she called me and I was 147 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: in an uber on the way home, and I was like, what, 148 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: you know, like that? So I was very excited, but 149 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: I really felt like it was I was calling that 150 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: in that I had called it. 151 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, was there anything that you were nervous about going 152 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: on the show? 153 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: Not really, you know, I think I'm not a drama girl, 154 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: and I really didn't want to ruffle feathers. 155 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: Would you consider mal your type if you have a type? 156 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: You know? 157 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: No, No, he's not my typical type. Actually, but he 158 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: was so hot that he became my time for Yeah. 159 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: I love that. 160 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: What is your type? 161 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: What a great body? I mean, how can he not 162 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 2: be your type? I'm sorry, what was the question, honey? 163 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: What is your typical type? 164 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: My typical type is? You know, I've I've had so 165 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: many different I've had two different husbands, they were very different. 166 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: I've had different relationships and they were all different. So 167 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: I would but I would say my typical type is 168 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: definitely tall, which was Mel. I mean, I have an 169 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: avatar for sure, and a bit more maybe I would 170 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: say intellectual than Mel. Not that he wasn't really bright. 171 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: He's super smart and impressed me, but you know, more 172 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: intellectual like wear's glasses maybe you know. 173 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: That kind of looks looks intellectual, like a little bit 174 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: of a dorky vibe a little. 175 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: I love a nerd. I love a nerd, Yeah yeah 176 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: I do. But also, you know, handsome, but a nerd 177 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: and fit, which which Mel was. Also he's just a 178 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: lot bigger I usually, you know, tall and sort of slim, 179 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: really really really slim is my typical type. Yeah, yeah, 180 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: you know that that that that intellectual, sort of slightly 181 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: already looking guy, but really he's in finance or economics 182 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: or something. 183 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I went you. I'm following. 184 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: How about age for you? Was that a factor at all? 185 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: You know, I don't like younger guys. I'm not that 186 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: kind of girl you know that wants to be with 187 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: somebody young. I like men my age, so you know, 188 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: I love a guy that's age starts with a six, 189 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: but five is okay too. You know, I like young men, 190 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 2: and what I find is that so many men. I 191 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: don't know if I want to say most, but once 192 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: they are over fifty five, they start to really look 193 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: old and their body. I'm not old, so I don't 194 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: want an old looking guy. You know. I want a 195 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: young guy, a young young for their age, but I 196 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: also want someone age appropriate. 197 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. You want a hot sixty year old. 198 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: I want a hot sixty year old. Thank you, Yes, 199 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: I do. I do because I like to be able 200 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: to share our music, our generation. I'm not. I don't 201 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: want a forty five year old at all. Yeah. Plus, 202 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: my own son is thirty eight. 203 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: Like it's no, you don't want one of his friends. 204 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry what I said. 205 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: You don't want one of his friends? 206 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: I do not want one of his friends. No, no, no, 207 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: I want to establish gentlemen. Yes. 208 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: How how often do you do yoga? 209 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: Almost every day? 210 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: Okay? 211 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? I believe in it for my body spirit so much. 212 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: You know, I think it keeps you limber, it keeps 213 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 2: you mobile, keeps your brain clear, you know, spiritually, it 214 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: keeps you centered. I think it's like therapy, you know, 215 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: I think yoga saves Yeah. 216 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: What do you eat? Oh? 217 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: Well, if you ask mel, this is one of our jokes. 218 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: If you ask Metal, he would say, I eat potatoes, salad, 219 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: and apple and air so and I said to him, well, 220 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: you know, I think I said something like, yeah, I'm 221 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: a breatheterian. I just you know, I am a vegan, 222 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 2: so I eat a plant base. I've been vegan for 223 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: about nineteen years. I have since i've been in my sixties, 224 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: added in a little bit of salmon because the research 225 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: is showing that that is beneficial. I'm not a vegan 226 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: just because I think that, you know, to be a 227 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: hard or vegan. I'm not that kind of person, you know. 228 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: I think that vegans get kind of a bad rap, 229 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: you know that joke. How do you know if there's 230 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: a vegan in the room, they'll tell you. You know, 231 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: I'm not I. 232 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm with marathon runners. 233 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm at fault for that. But ultimately I do 234 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: think it's humane, and you know, I believe in animal 235 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: welfare and I believe in the health of the planet 236 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: and my own body. But but I have read the 237 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: research for you know, from longevity experts, and I follow 238 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: a lot of scientists. I love Oh yeah, that's really 239 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: my type. Like I love scientists, I love doctors, and 240 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: scientists who are into longevity biohacking people. But yeah, and 241 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: that seems to be what the research says. So I 242 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: had all the semmon. 243 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: Okay, let's jump to night one. You step out of 244 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: the limo, you meet Mel for the first time. How 245 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: are you feeling. What's your first impression of him? 246 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: Well, I, you know, I told myself, when I step 247 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: out of the limo, you know, put both feet on 248 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: the ground, take a preak, just to enjoy that that 249 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: second before it all really starts. And I did that, 250 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: and I remember absolutely nothing after that. I was I 251 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: don't know what happened. I was so calm and together, 252 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: and then I got nervous. I really truly barely remember 253 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 2: meeting the man. So that's the truth. So I had 254 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: a football that I was throwing to him, and I 255 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: just wanted to make sure, you know, that I could 256 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: throw the football properly, because you know, I don't know 257 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: how to throw a football. But he caught it and 258 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: it didn't go haywire, so that was good. And I 259 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: just I really don't remember. I remember saying I remember 260 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: blowing him a kiss and saying I'm going to go 261 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: in come find me, or I'll come and intercept you. 262 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: That's what I remember. 263 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: I like it. 264 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: I like it. Yeah, but that's about it. Yeah. Yeah. 265 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: And how did that first night go with Melon the ladies? 266 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: Oh, it was a magical night. He came in and 267 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: addressed us about the podcast, his podcast remarks, and that 268 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: was the that's the first thing he did. And he 269 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: was a very very genuine and very heartfelt. And it 270 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 2: felt really good to see him so vulnerable and humbled 271 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: and asked for forgiveness and for him to us, for 272 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: us to allow him to earn it back. And that 273 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: was a really great way to start. I went and 274 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: grabbed him and said, I'm gonna run some interference here, 275 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 2: and I grabbed him and took him outside so we 276 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: could have a little one on one. And it was 277 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: great because then I was had done the limo, I 278 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: had had my one on one, and the rest of 279 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: the night, you know, I could spend getting to know 280 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 2: the other women and just relax. 281 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: That is the best when you're like you get it 282 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: out of the way and then you're like, all right, 283 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: it's out of my hands. Now I had my time, 284 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: we chatted, and now I can just have a drink and. 285 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: And I just got to relax when everybody else was 286 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 2: like one of the most when's I one on one 287 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: going to be an hours go by that night that 288 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: we're filming that, and you know, so they were waiting. 289 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: I'm kind of nervous and I got to relax. So 290 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: I was very grateful for that. But I am one 291 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: to jump in and just make things happen. 292 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: So mel does we do see at the top of 293 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: the show he apologizes for what he said on the podcast. 294 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: But being one of the women who is casting on 295 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: his season pre going onto the season and you hearing 296 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: those remarks, did it bother you? 297 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: It bothered me a lot. I really wanted to replace him. 298 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: At first. My impression was he's got to be replaced 299 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: because this is just bad, a bad feeling. You know, 300 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: it was just a bad I kind of left a 301 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: bad taste in my mouth, so to speak, and I 302 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: didn't think that would be good. But then, you know, 303 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: when they didn't replace him, I thought, Okay, you know what, 304 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: We're just gonna have to deal with it. But the 305 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: apology was, as I said, so heartfelt and so humbling 306 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: that and his humanity really showed right off the top. 307 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: You'll see it, and you know, when I met so 308 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: when I had my one on one with him, I said, 309 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: thank you so much for that meant a lot, and 310 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: we're good so nice. 311 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like they had he had to address 312 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: it to you women right away. I think that was 313 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: the best way to go about it. Or would it 314 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: just been an elephant in the room. 315 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because there were other women that were still holding, 316 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: you know, onto that even more than I was. 317 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: So Yeah, which women did you find yourself gravitating towards 318 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: and which women did you become close with? 319 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, I have really strong chemistry with people 320 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: when we're you know, again to speak in the Yogi way, 321 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: when we're on the same vibrational you know, frequency or alignment. 322 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: So the people that I just instantly There was a 323 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: woman named Maya in my limo and we just held 324 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: hands and we were like best friends in five minutes. 325 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: You know, she looked like Cindy Crawford. You know, I 326 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: loved her. And then I had a real, you know, 327 00:15:53,880 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: immediate chemistry with Carol, with Cindy, with Jerry and others, well, 328 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: I and Roxy. There are so many that I that 329 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: I loved, but those off the top of my head. 330 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, were you surprised to see Maya go home. 331 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: Extremely Yeah, so surprised by the outcome of every single 332 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: Rose ceremony. 333 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Were you yes we see episode? I was, actually, yeah, 334 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: I was. I was shocked by the Maya. 335 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: How do you let Cindy Crawford go home? I mean, 336 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: how do you do that? 337 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: And she lives right there? He lives in California, She 338 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: lives in California. 339 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: I was like, there's always one person night one that 340 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: people are surprised by. 341 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: I was surprised by who stayed and who he sent 342 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: home that night. But you know what, it's it's all 343 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: about his chemistry with people. So you know, it's not 344 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: it wasn't my show to choose, but it was just 345 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: from an observing it and being in it, I was 346 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: very surprised every single Rose ceremony. 347 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: Was it to the ladies at all? Who he had 348 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: strong connections with? 349 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: Or I think so? Yeah? I think so? And I 350 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: was one of them, And I think it really upset 351 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: a lot of women. 352 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: Well we do. 353 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: We do see a lot of the women get or 354 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: some of the women get upset with you during the 355 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: pool party because you get you make out with them 356 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: in front of everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what are 357 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that whole situation. 358 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I had a great time with the 359 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: pool party. You know, I looked around and it didn't 360 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: look like anyone else was going to go. So I 361 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: decided that it would be me, and so I jumped 362 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: in the pool and said, you know, made a little 363 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: you know, some other joke with football pun about you 364 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: know whatever, intercepting, and then yeah, and then you know, 365 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. We just had a lot 366 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: of chemistry and attraction that was just really natural and 367 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: that makes it a lot of fun. So I was 368 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: aware though that other women were starting to stare at 369 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: me and I you know, so when I got out 370 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: of the pool, you know, many of the other women were. 371 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: I realized I sensed, you know how you sense the 372 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: energy like oh cold. But you know, I wanted to 373 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: balance it because I was new in the house. We 374 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: were all new in the house, and I wanted to 375 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: you know, I wanted to I want to be liked, 376 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 2: I want to have make friends. So I didn't want 377 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: to upset them too much. However, I will tell you 378 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: I could have cared less what they thought. This way, 379 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: I can say it. 380 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, So when the women kind of they say, we 381 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 3: see a sit down chat, it looks like it might 382 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: be like the next day. Even where they are expressing 383 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: their discomfort with how you were acting at the pool party, 384 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: you seem to kind of acknowledge their feelings, you it. Yeah, yeah, 385 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: tell us more about that. 386 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really, I mean I did acknowledge your feelings. 387 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: Their feelings are valid. You know. I'm a health coach, 388 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: I understand, which is kind of like being a life coach, 389 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: which is kind of like being a relationship coach, because 390 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: it all it's all mixed. So I I like to 391 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: listen and validate, and I wanted them to be comfortable, 392 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: but ultimately I didn't really give a shit. I really didn't. 393 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: I was having fun. It's my journey, it's my story, 394 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 2: and they should have theirs. And I honestly feel like 395 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: they were just really jealous, but they didn't know how 396 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: to do what I can do and in this in 397 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: this way, that's just one of my things. I know 398 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: how to do that. And you know, I know I'm 399 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: good with people. I'm good with you know, interpersonal communication, 400 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: and and I'm confident enough to jump in a pull 401 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: in a bikini and go up to the Bachelor, you know, 402 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: and I think they didn't know quite how to do it. 403 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: They weren't comfortable. 404 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: Would it Would it have bothered you if someone else 405 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: did it? No, I mean. 406 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: That to you, okay, yeah, oh no, I wouldn't bother 407 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: me at all. But you know, interestingly enough, one of 408 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: my biggest critics that day came to me, and and 409 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: so did two others. They actually came to me for advice. 410 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: They just said, I feel like I'm not coming forward 411 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: enough with my personality, with the things I really want 412 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: to say to MEU and I, and they said, can 413 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: you help me? And each one of them individually, I 414 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: said absolutely, what's your goal? Okay? And I said, I'm 415 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: going to be mel and We're going to role play 416 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: this until you get it down, and then we're gonna 417 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: we're gonna make sure that tonight you find a moment. 418 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: What's what's going on in this house? 419 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: And so we role played. I gave them their words 420 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 2: that I thought they would be comfortable with, and they were, 421 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: and all three of them did it. They all three 422 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: did what I what I suggested, and I would even say, 423 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: now's a moment, now now go, now go now. 424 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's definitely you. You are put in a 425 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: situation where you're you're lucky because you you're a forward person, 426 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: you go after what you want. But if you're not, 427 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard to succeed in this arena 428 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: because you're competing against thirty people, you know, and it's 429 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: just like there's one there's one prize, and there's one prize. 430 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 2: And yeah, and there's so little time, you know, there's 431 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 2: so little time to make your mark, to make an impression, 432 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: to try to make a connection. And yeah, you're right, Joe, 433 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 2: it's it's you know, so And as a coach, I 434 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: was really happy and I was honored. I was flattered 435 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: that they came to me, and I think they were really, 436 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: you know, my critics at the beginning, and I think 437 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: in the end they really respected and liked me, and 438 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: that was important to me. But I was so happy 439 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: to help them. We had Susan and Cathy when they came, so, 440 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: you know, Kathy, I had a one on one with Kathy. 441 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: They were both fantastic by the way, I love them, 442 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: and Kathy said, what's going on? And it was just 443 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 2: at the time when you know, I said, well, I 444 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: think I'm being redeemed because women are coming to me 445 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: in confidence to say I need your help, and she's 446 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: and she said, well, Nicole, that is really generous of 447 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: you to guide them and give them, you know, pointers 448 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: and tips and make sure that they follow through to 449 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: do it. She said, but you shouldn't do that. This 450 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: is your story. Don't don't feel you know that that's 451 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: your responsibility. And I said, I appreciate that advice. I 452 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: will do that starting now. But I really didn't feel competitive. 453 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: I felt like we all had something amazing to bring 454 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: their all incredible women, women you know, with incredible talents, 455 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: incredible skills, beauty, everything, and but I just I felt like, 456 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't insecure about helping them. Let me 457 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 2: put it that way. I didn't feel like it was 458 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: giving me less of an edge or them more of 459 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: that competitive edge. I just felt like, that's what you 460 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: do with your sisters. 461 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: You know, we uh, we see that you win the 462 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: group date Rose. It was comedy that roast for the 463 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: roast for the roast. But I want to talk about 464 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: your conversation with mel because you asked question that Serena 465 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: was dying for someone to ask about his divorce. 466 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: I wasn't dying for someone. I just I respect you 467 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: to respect goodness about your experiences with divorce, and I 468 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 3: also respected that I felt like he was closed off 469 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: and that wasn't deterring you from shying away from asking 470 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: questions and having that conversation. 471 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: So do you feel when you did ask him about 472 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: his divorce, was he closed off? And did he kind 473 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: of give you He is not. 474 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: He's a man, you know, and I don't think that. 475 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: And I know that he's on a personal growth journey 476 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: and I know that he, you know, is interested in 477 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: in expanding as a human, but he's at the beginning 478 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: of that journey, and so he still has trouble I think, 479 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: at times fully expressing himself or feeling comfortable. So it 480 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: was like the conversation. I tried to bring the conversation 481 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: to the divorce, and he kept sort of going like this, 482 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 2: and I kept this and this and this and this, 483 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: until I kept bringing it back and bringing you back, 484 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: and he really did answer my It was kind of 485 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: a list of questions that led him down a path 486 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: that so he could share his story with me, and 487 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: he did and he did, and I think he was 488 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: vulnerable and honest with me so, but it did take 489 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: some you know, redirecting, a lot of redirecting to get 490 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 2: him there. 491 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point in the show, we've you know, 492 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: we've just finished episode three. We saw we've seen your 493 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: connection kind of grow, and you've had this one on 494 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: one time with him. Now, how are you feeling about 495 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: your relationship with mel. 496 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 2: I was feeling great about it, actually, I mean I 497 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: was feeling like I was solidly in the front you know, 498 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: I want to say the lead, but I was in 499 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 2: the front section of women for sure. 500 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: Who do you else do you put in that section? 501 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: Well? There were people in that section that I didn't 502 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: understand that they were in there, but they were. But 503 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: they were in there. So so that, you know, the 504 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: people that I feel like had genuine chemistry with him, 505 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: or that I that I thought that they actually went together, 506 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 2: that they would make a good couple. I thought he 507 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: and Carol made a lot of sense. She lives there, 508 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: They're both into sports for careers, et cetera. I think 509 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: Cindy was a cute. I think they had chemistry. 510 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: Debbie Okay, wow, all right. 511 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't get it, but okay, 512 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: I love Debbie. Yeah, Debby lover. 513 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: But all right, well I think no comment. 514 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: No, I love I respect. 515 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: I love your openness and your honesty, Nicole, I really do. 516 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: And Jerry, I feel like Jerry and he had a 517 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: warmth that I really enjoyed watching. 518 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to see more of her. I feel 519 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 3: like we haven't gotten a ton of screen. 520 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: Time special She's a very special human. Yeah, I'm feel 521 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: blessed to know her. 522 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: All right, before we let you go, if you could 523 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: tease what's coming for the rest of the season, what 524 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 3: words would you use to describe it? 525 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: Oh? Wow, twists and turns, time my life on the show, 526 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: time in my life book, twists and some twists and 527 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: turns and things that are unexpected. So you gotta stay. 528 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: Tuned, Okay, Nicole, thank you so much for coming on 529 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: Batch or Happy Hour. It was great getting to know you. 530 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 2: Welcome. It's fun you guys. Yeah, yeah, you're great together 531 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: and you guys are very welcoming and warm and make 532 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: it easy. 533 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: So thank you, thank you, Thank you you made it easy. 534 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: To and and to all our listeners. Thank you guys 535 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: for tuning into Better Happy Hour. Make sure you download 536 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: and subscribe to the podcast. 537 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 3: We will have new and expensive interviews for you every 538 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: single week. Thanks for listening. Bye you