WEBVTT - EP12: The Promised Land 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.920 Class Action is a production of I Heart Radio and 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:21.159 Sound Argument. Today is indeed a wonderful day as we 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:26.200 gather to celebrate the confirmation of the next Justice of 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:39.479 the United States Supreme Court, Judge Katangi Brown Jackson. And 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:48.640 Judge Jackson, you will inspire generations of leaders. They will 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:55.920 watch your confirmation hearings and read your decisions. The young 0:00:56.080 --> 0:01:02.000 leaders of our nation will learn from the experienced the judgment. 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:08.199 The wisdom that you, Judge Jackson, will apply in every 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:12.080 case that comes before you, and they will see for 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:17.679 the first time for women sitting on that court at 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:27.399 one time. Hy y'all, I'm Servey. I'm from Georgia Tech. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:34.600 We're over there. Go jackets. Hi everyone, I'm Travis Harper. 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:40.600 This is Stella Asmerom Harper Mock Trial, and we're so 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:45.080 excited for this weekend. Good luck, guys. Hey everyone, my 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.640 name is Angela Armistead. My name is Jalen Trent and 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:58.240 where the captains at Howard University. Mock trial. H you Hi, guys. 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.240 My name is Sophia Pittman Jones and I'm Davia Kumar 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.480 and we're representing the University of Cincinnati with our first 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:13.400 ever all female tea. Hello, I'm Renee than me In 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.240 and my name is Amya Ronsick. I'm the captain of 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.079 the Dillard University mock Tril team in New Orleans. And 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.040 as we stay in New Orleans, le bonkulate, let the 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.920 good times roll. Oh you you're ruther? Wait? What's all right? 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:37.760 I'll problem Hello, you're the right from. Everybody's fine? Everybody, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:42.440 pop you're look you're les poleg cop the left leg. 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:51.799 If everybody looks like pop, all okay, look cutey. Where 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:56.200 are we looking? And there's there is Howard mock Tyle 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:01.320 right there, Howard Morilee's told right there, look beautiful and special, 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.720 all melonated and gorgeous. Just look at beautiful black people 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:15.760 for everybody that's black. So Howard is an HBC that 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.640 typically comes to the national settings, so this isn't their 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:22.480 first rodeo. However, it is ours. We are the first 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.239 black team from the South to come to Nationals. We're 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.560 also the first black team or team in general from 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.040 the state Louisiana coming to national So there are a 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.079 lot of things that are riding on the back of 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.680 my teammates and I I'm going into this and we 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:46.000 couldn't be more honored. Good afternoon. How special is it 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:55.760 to all be together again on behalf of the planning 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.960 committee on the Town College and Lancster County And it's 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.800 five D seventy five thousand residents welcome. My name is 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.960 Grant Kema. I'm the chair of the Plant Tournament Planning Committee. 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.480 As I look around, I think, you know, like growing up, 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.119 I always wanted to be a baseball announcer. This isn't 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.440 exactly how I thought it was. I've been involved with 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.560 collegiate mock trial since about two thousand seven and I 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:22.160 served as the chair of the National Championship Tournament planning Committee. 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.760 Today is the opening ceremony for the tournament. The Lancster 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:31.680 County Courthouse will be hosting sixteen trials proground. We're going 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.080 to have six at the Holiday Inn and two at 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.760 the Lankster Bar Association and we will so for each 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.600 trial they will draw two teams. The first team drawing 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.560 will be the prosecution team. The second team drawing will 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:48.560 be the defense team. We asked the teams refrain from 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.919 pre trial cheers and chants in the courthouse. We know 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.920 it's an important tradition for some of you. We respect 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.680 that the sure if you're not like it, the bailiffs 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.640 do not like it, and frankly, I've heard from some 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.080 of our judges that they don't enjoy it. So please 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.320 have your pre trial moment with your team quietly and 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:11.360 refrained from any loud expressions of pre trial hump up nous. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:22.760 Welcome to nationals. Okay, I'm gonna do it again, he said. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.520 We can't chant in the court house, so we gotta 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.960 get the noise out now. Welcome to the in person 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:42.920 National Championship. That was a little bit. This has been 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:55.440 a long time coming. It's been a long year for 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.600 the previously unranked team from Dillard University. They've put an 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.560 hunter it's of hours of practice, and traveled thousands of 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:06.760 miles on the road. Today they find themselves surrounded by 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.400 the best and the brightest. They've reached the promised Land. 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:17.760 This is episode twelve. The Richard M. Howkins Award listended 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.800 annually to the championship team of the Intercollegiate Mock Trial 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.440 National Championship. If our students get the idea that the 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.560 only thing that matters is winning, they are losing of 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.640 what being a lawyer and participating in the judicial system is. 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:37.920 Lawyers are officers of all court and there an all 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:46.440 time Richard M. Howkins, Reday's America and mol Associations. I'd 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.160 like to think I will be a voice actor at 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.360 some point in my life. So you know this was 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.480 my audition. Yeah, wow, do you think I'll get it? 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:59.640 We're going to start with the draw from the Doss Division. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:06.719 Nothing fund would us in courtroom A representing the state, 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.200 the Yellow Jackets of Georgia Tech Team one thousand one 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:17.440 facing the Blue Devils of Dillard University Team twelve sixteen. 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:25.720 Where are we at in Portland too? Imagine an n 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.920 C Double A basketball tournament and all of the teams 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.120 are in one hotel. You can feel the nervous energy 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:36.400 as teams pile into elevators dressed in pajamas and workout 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.760 care Some are already uncomfortable in their courtroom suits. The 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.160 young would be lawyers take over every free space inside 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:48.920 the hotel, driving the staff crazy. We're from Ohio State. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.600 It's my senior year, so it's my last time. We're 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.960 from Emory University and the Amory Eagles is the school mascot. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.680 Very chaotic at all times, but in the fast possible way, 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.040 So we're really high energy. It's been a good year. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.160 I'm really excited. Yeah, we're happy to be back in 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:11.600 nahalk in person. Yeah we're from Yale. Yeah, um, New 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:17.080 Haven naked. Yeah. It's felt very very long. Um, but 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.000 it's crazy because this case we've had three weeks with it, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.000 so it's been a long time. But um, still not 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.280 feeling as prepared as I wish I felt. It's fun 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.880 and nerve wracking. Um, but I think this case is 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.600 really juicy, So I'm happy to be doing it. You know, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.640 I got sick of that Arson case after months and 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.920 months of doing Yeah. Yeah, we're from Harvard, so it's 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:40.839 been fun seeing what other teams have come up with 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.800 and you know, changing our material based on what we see. 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:49.280 But to amp myself up, listen to Ratchett music, listen 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:53.080 to gang banger music, and that's what helps me get 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.240 hyped up. It depends because I might listen to some 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.920 old stuff like some ice Cube, or I might listen 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.320 to some stuff that only people from Miami is gonna know. 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.800 So Piccolo, if you're you're listening to this, I listen 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.640 to your music. Yes, gotta have the right of stuff. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.600 Yesterday I was getting off the elevator to come talk 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.520 to Ms Kimbro and I'm on a mission. I don't 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:17.679 have a lot, I don't have a lot of time, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.920 like you need to go. And I get out the 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:24.240 elevator and it's a bunch of mock trial kids and 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.160 I'm like, hey, how y'all doing? And I hear them 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.520 that's him, that's him, that's him. And they say, are 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.600 you hey? What's cool? Are y'all y'all dealer? And we're 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.600 like yeah, and they're like, oh my god, y'all are 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.040 the ones who turned the lights off and have the 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:42.080 hood on? And you know, I'm just like, oh, I'm famous. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:49.440 I'm good, good, very excited, very grateful, you know, just 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.480 kind of taking it all in. It's very exciting. You know, 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.640 there's some degree of a Cinderella story still to it. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.920 I'm not offended by that. I know that there are 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.600 some who are. Um, that doesn't offend me. I think 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.160 the difference though, is, of course, we know the story 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.640 of Cinderella there was a fairy godmother that comes and 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:11.160 creates all of this magic, and in this case, there 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.880 was no fairy godmother. Unless maybe it's me. I don't know. 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.080 But I would know seriously though, I mean, there was 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:20.080 no fairy god mother. They did the work. This is 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.439 something that we always talked about, Like even my freshman year, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.040 I remember crying that I didn't make it past regionals. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.600 Like every year, freshman year, sophomore year, junior, we didn't 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.800 make it past. And I just think right now and 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.240 all of everything that we've been through was just to 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.280 condition us to get to this point. And I think 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.240 we wouldn't have been ready and we wouldn't have done 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.960 this great if it wasn't this exact group of people, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.640 this exact um set of circumstances. So I'm just happy 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.520 that it was right now and not when I when 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.800 I asked for it. So I feel like you never 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.800 really know what's coming. You can only prepare for what 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.400 you believe is coming. So you just got to keep 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.360 that game face on and you know, just do the 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.200 job that you were tasked with, which is to participate 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:10.680 in this trial in whatever capacity you were granted. Just 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.400 a little scene setting here. We're in the old courthouse, 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.199 in a cavernous court room that feels abandoned. There are 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:23.120 twenty five foot ceilings and fabricated pillars with elaborate cornices. 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.080 The court itself sits on an elevated platform in front 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.760 of a semi circular chamber, and the three judges sit 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.640 behind a massive wooden bench with antique lamps in the 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.439 shape of the scales of justice. On the walls are 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:43.600 dusty portraits of Lancaster Counties, long forgotten barristers, all white 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:49.120 men in black robes, staring down in judgment your honor. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.800 Opposing council members of the jury may have pleased the court. 0:11:54.720 --> 0:12:01.559 Every scheme needs escape gam On August nine, two twenty one, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.200 officer Jay Murta was handcuffed and arrested in front of 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.760 all of their colleagues at the Midlands Center Police Department. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.640 After they were cuffed, they were put in the back 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:17.520 of a squad car and taking to Central Booking, charged 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:25.719 with fraud. Well, every scheme needs escape them, and you 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.160 will learn that is with Jay Murtas trying to make 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:32.920 out of Gene Rigs. I know what you're thinking, Murta 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.480 and Riggs. Where have I heard those names before? I'm 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:42.600 channeling Los Angeles. Mel Gibson over acting in a mullet. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.480 Danny Glover has a sleazy looking mustache. O M g 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.240 it's lethal weapon, and in this case it's the cops 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.640 who are the bad guys that don't stand a chance. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.360 The prosecution will want you to believe the word of 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.920 a crooked cop. I'm gonna want you to believe that 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:04.160 Jean Riggs was part of some scheme to take state 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:10.120 property and evezzel funds. But the evidence will show that 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:14.600 nothing of the sword is true. The evidence will show 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.959 that Jay Merton and the span of this whole investigation 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:22.920 was thinking of one person and it wasn't protecting the 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:27.520 people of Midlands. Now, because the majority of the seniors 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.200 have been on here since we got to this to Dillard, 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.360 I really think you just have to rest on the 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.800 fact that you know what you're doing. Like I'm not 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.200 new to this. I'm true to this man, I've been 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.800 doing this for four years. At this point, a confident 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.320 attitude is critical at this level. But at times in 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.720 this trial, the Dealer team is a little too persistent. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:51.440 They're pressing and as a result, they're tripping over their words. Yes, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.680 and when Officer Reef pulled you over, you learned that 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.280 what you were shipping was a peck on brick. Excuse 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.640 me of cocaine. Isn't that right? Yes, your honor, this 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.360 is the witnesses then exist. Im sorry, yes it does. 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.760 We are here today because the prosecution is charging the 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:10.720 defendant will falsilicate, falsification and embezzlement of state property. Drugs 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.600 are considered state drugs. Sees by the Midland Center Police 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.240 Department are state property. The purity of the drugs of 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.440 Bartholomew's I mean, excuse me, the purity of the drugs 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.960 are Murti as well as Riggs. We're actually less than 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.840 the regional average. So it's your testimony today that you 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.880 didn't look back at Jane riggs numbers after talking to 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.720 Peyton Travis about Jay Murta giving Gene Riggs up as 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:38.680 an accomplice. In the past, Lagen has been criticized for 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.280 being too aggressive in her cross examinations. She's kept it 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.600 in check all season, but today she goes after the 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:49.960 witness but getting still, those are the only ones you 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.040 flagged before you talked to Peyton Travis. Isn't that right? Now? 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.480 You have no evidence to show that Jane Riggs took 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.720 any of those drugs out of that lab, Isn't that correct? Thank? 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:05.400 You have no further questions. I think we've had to 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:09.160 learn to take certain comments from certain judges with a 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:13.400 grain of salt. Mantra is very subjective sport, it very 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:19.120 much is. And you want to improve and you want to, like, 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.240 you know, take in what they have to say. Um, 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.160 but you you kind of have to decide where you 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.480 want to put merit on certain things, like, um, if 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.480 a judge tells me, like we've had judges say like 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.760 we came off aggressive, it's it's kind of like it's 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.240 not about you at that point. It's about whatever they 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:39.480 feel and they're letting whatever like implicit things that's going on, 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.880 like we're unconscious things go on dictate this situation. So 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.640 you kind of have to kind of take yourself out 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.800 of it sometimes and just remember, like, this is something 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.920 that person is dealing with, whether consciously or unconsciously, and 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.840 this is how it's being presented, and you just happen 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:00.360 to be seeing the effects of it, and you may 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:06.800 step down. Let's take a five minute break. Please make 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.320 it quick, Please make it quick. I need to go 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.640 with thank you. During the break, the team scurries into 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.680 the hallway outside of the courtroom. They're clearly rattled by 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.360 their own performance and perhaps a bit intimidated by the 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:28.720 team from Georgia Tech. I just mentioned to juris is 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:33.840 sort of funny. Um, the very first year we started 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.320 the team and we went to regionals, the last round 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.880 was Georgia Tech. UM, and so of course we our 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.720 first round here is Georgia Tech. So I know they're 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.480 a great team. I mean I can say that. I 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.920 mean they're always they're always very good. They're always um competitive. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:56.120 You know, they come to nationals regularly, UM, long standing program, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:17:02.280 very h experienced. Now they brought to you this chart, 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.679 this quote unquote plan. But as you heard, none of 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:10.680 this actually transpired over trial. The Dealer team has overcome 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.639 hurricanes and bomb threats to get here. They've beaten top 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:19.119 ranked teams in front of all white judges. This is 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.440 something that they needed to control, something that they needed 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.520 to show you. But it's obvious that this round is 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:29.200 slipping away. Even a hail Mary closing from DeAndre Bell 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:34.359 may not be enough to win the round. Members of 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.160 the jury waits for the smoke to clear because every 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:43.400 scheme needs escapegoat, and in this case, because Officer Mertzall 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:47.040 went down, she decided somebody else had to go down 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:53.679 with her, so just some like more general feedback. I 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.120 thought openings are really good, but they tended a little 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.679 bit too far on the argumentative side at times. I 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.600 think you need the relax a little bit, be yourself, 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.840 you know, don't come in here into a courtroom and 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.720 try to be somebody other than who you are. You're 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.200 just a little bit too rigid. And I don't think 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.359 that you're that way because if I see you walking 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:20.160 around and talking and so, don't try and be somebody 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.840 that you're not. Um mich Shelton was a little bit 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.320 rigid as well in the beginning, and then she kind 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.240 of relaxed a little bit and became a little more 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:34.680 of herself. When you're doing a trial, they always say 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.760 this is a fun experience. Being in a trial is 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:46.359 like downhill skiing, going just as fast but not so fast. 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:50.680 You lose control, but you almost do, and sometimes you do. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:55.520 But when that happens, you're going to automatic pilot and 0:18:55.600 --> 0:19:01.280 you save it. That's what it's like. My morale kind 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.240 of started to go down. I started stubbling under my words, 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.200 and I didn't really have the response that I wanted 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.000 to have, and It's like I knew what to say, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:09.639 but it just didn't come out, and so I was 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.159 getting irritated by that. I had a massive headache. I 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.280 stayed for the comments, listen to the comments. Everybody was 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.000 excited to talk about the close and things like that, 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.320 but I was just like, y'all, uh, I'm listening. I'm 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.320 gonna stay here, but as soon as we're done, I 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.440 gotta go. Man. Literally, when I made it to my room, 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:26.800 I took off all my clothes and just popped in bed. 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.960 I knew it wouldn't be easy, but I knew the 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.000 person I nominated when we put through a painful and 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:41.520 difficult confirmation process. But I have to tell you what 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:46.480 Judge Jackson has put through was well beyond that. It 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:50.159 was verbal abuse, the anger. In the face of it all, 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:57.600 George Jackson showed the incredible character and integrity she possesses. I'm, folks, 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:02.360 it's my honor and truly is an honor to introduce 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.560 you the next Associate Justice in the United States Supreme Court, 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:25.080 the Honorable Katangi Brown Jackson. And I'm gonna just tell 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.520 you my own personal pack of dealo. You don't always 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:32.560 wanted to do with the possibilities. Okay, anybody have any questions. 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:38.560 As a practitioner and as a judge, really, I like 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:42.080 the fact that I can make a difference in somebody's life. Yeah. No, 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.600 I take a very very serious view of the legal profession. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.399 And when you think about things that have changed in 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:51.800 this country that have changed the lives of Americans, they 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.240 usually start in the mind of a lawyer, whether drafting 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:59.240 a law, putting forward a bill, filing the case, it 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.640 usually arts in the mind of a lawyer. And that's 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:07.639 a very substantial responsibility. And also lawyers can make a 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.760 very very good income and they have a good lifestyle. 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:17.600 But with wealth comes responsibility. If you hit wealthy enough off, 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.280 you're lucky enough to achieve it. So I try to 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.359 teach on that side of it too, that you're a professional. 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.160 You have to be a professional. You have to give 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.560 me your best because sometimes the only thing that stands 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:33.399 between them and loss of freedom, here's a lawyer. And 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:40.840 that's a very substantial responsibility. Uh do anybody with your health? 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:59.560 Very so? Okay, Okay, I just want lunch. K where 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:02.800 are we in all? Take grab a seat lunch before 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.639 our next frond starts. The whole idea. Here is the 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:11.359 fact they raised in Mercalm, Capital Criminal Interprise. I'll bash 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.919 the tournament. Thus far, we face Boston University and Emery. 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:16.880 It went pretty well. I think our team was very 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.640 competitive and we did a very good job against really 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:21.600 good It's been nice to see that we can compete 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:23.880 with the higher levels because we're a smaller school about 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:26.879 eleven hundred students, and we're up at schools with forty 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:30.240 fifty students each and we're still able to compete when 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:34.880 Thaie do things about swork. We're from American University UM, 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.440 and we just finished our second round of the day. UM. 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:39.919 Everyone feels really good. It's it's been a wonderful experience. 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:41.880 Everyone's learning a lot and getting to see some really 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:45.359 good monk. We have a world top say has played 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:47.600 so far. You see Santa Barbara and you see Irvine. 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.239 So it's nice because we got some lay schools from 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:51.399 very far away, which is always good at the national 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:53.120 championship because you know, you spend most of the year 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.600 going against like the same schools in your area. Oh, 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.359 it's great. We have so many friends from across the 0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.800 country that without this activity, we would have never met 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.720 We've got friends from tough sout in Massachusetts, from U C. 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:04.879 L A out in California, and you know, everywhere in 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:06.879 between UM. And it's really fun that we get to 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:08.840 come together once again and really just see each other 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:12.200 because when this activity was online, obviously we couldn't really 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.159 talk to each other. We didn't get to see each other, 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:16.320 we didn't get to have those times in between rounds 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:18.680 and the hotel um where you know, we really get 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:19.959 to talk about, like, you know, where do you want 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:21.000 to go to law school? What do you want to 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.520 do with your life? And it's really interesting to see 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:25.399 how like these people can these connections that you're making 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.840 a mock trial can really influence your life, your trajectory, 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:32.480 your path, your passions. Hey, we're from Duke University. It's 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.760 kind of tough being the most charming team and antha, 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.520 but we take on that burden happily and we're doing 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:45.520 it really well. Round threection again. Yeah, we just got 0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:54.520 prosecution and we got Hamilton's College, Uh court room six, 0:23:56.400 --> 0:24:06.719 one of the third flour Can Dance version and whisper 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:11.159 if that was my thing. It's a new thing, this problem. 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:16.439 Ye Come on, y'all, come on, this tea, this team, 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:21.240 this team, team, this team, this team, best team best, 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:26.080 this team, this tea strong, team strong, this team, this team, strong, 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:31.240 team strong, this team, this team, this team, this team. 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.240 I love my team. Love I love my team. I 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:38.760 love my team. I love my team. Someone's getting your 0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:50.960 looks like, are coming? So yeah, come on, you're just coming. Cool. 0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.320 I used to struggle with imposter syndrome a lot my 0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:01.680 freshman year, and I went to this UM summer program 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.320 where I basically learned that if I'm there, I'm there 0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:07.520 for a reason, and obviously I'm qualified. And you know, 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.760 there's a quote that says, um, God doesn't call the qualified, 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:15.639 but he qualifies the call basically, and so even if 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:17.520 you know there are places that I was slipping up 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.399 on which I was slipping up at National's, I'm not 0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:23.600 gonna lie, but I felt like it was a learning um, 0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.720 just just a learning moment for me. So it wasn't 0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:28.240 that I felt like I was out of place, because 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:31.000 I felt like a lot of the rounds were evenly matched. 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.280 It's just that I wasn't used to doing it back 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:36.919 to back to back, because at this point we're pulling 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.360 out all the stops. But for every round, so we're 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.119 getting tired, and it's just about like keeping up your stamina. 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.280 So there were some moments where I didn't I'm gonna 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:45.679 be honest with you, I didn't feel like we were 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:50.000 jelling because we all want the best possible outcome each 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.800 and every time. So I would see DeAndre and the 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.960 corner panicking, and I would see Taylor in the corner 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.840 scribbling down something on her notes. I'm trying to get 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.240 something else in orders. Those moments right there, we're having 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.280 me nervous, like, oh my gosh, are we gonna make 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:11.200 it out of this round? Dillard and Hamilton's are evenly 0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.919 matched when it comes to their litigation skills. This trial 0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:19.120 comes down to the credibility of the witnesses. Good Afternoon, 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:25.800 has Sweetie. It's all about acting skills and make believe accents. 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:33.280 You blame Officer Race for having to serve that prison sentence. 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:37.120 I do. I think Officer Rigs should have to tell 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:43.680 the truth today and get justice you usually want on 0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.680 Officer Rex, I do. I feel like Officer Riggs should 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.600 have to go through everything that she deserves, especially for 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.080 making me do something I didn't want to do. I 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.359 feel like this character was more of me because I'm 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.879 a southern, very very country. She's a very fun witness to. 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:03.199 So my first dream was to be on Broadway. And 0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:07.919 then I discovered law. The Hamilton's witness goes for the 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:14.560 classic bad guy accent from every spy movie you've ever seen, right, 0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.119 And you never saw the defendant pick out anyone of 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:21.760