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Speaker 1: Any naughty talk needs to come out right now. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: when I said, can I have a curtain in the

426
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: middle of the TV room, you said yes? And we

427
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: did so many plays we had. By the way, if

428
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: you have a child and you don't have to put

429
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: it in the middle of the room, or if they

430
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: have a playroom, you could put it like one third

431
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: of the way through the room. But I gotta tell you,

432
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: this curtain that was, you know, probably not super expensive.

433
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: We got so much joy from just the idea of

434
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: we're putting on a show and we can pull the

435
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: curtain and do a show. And then the big feature

436
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: of it was it had to be a curtain. You Yeah,

437
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: that's what it was. We got so many hours of

438
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: joy out of that damn curtain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

439
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: think you know. I was also into the tech, you know,

440
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: as you know, I was into the technical theater. So

441
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: these these these shows would sometimes have elaborate set changes

442
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: that the audience would have to wait while me and

443
00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: my little sister were changing the set behind the curtain. Okay,

444
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: so let me ask you a question. You knew you

445
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: wanted to be in theater, you knew you wanted to

446
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: be a performer of some sort. When did you realize

447
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: you wanted to tell stories too? Though? When was that?

448
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: When did that become part of the it's a good question.

449
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: I have an early memory of standing in front of

450
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: I think it was fifth grade. We had been given

451
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: an assignment that we were going to read a story.

452
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: I may have told this before in the podcast, right.

453
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: We were told to read a story, and then we

454
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: were going to read. Those who swanted to could read

455
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: it in front of the classroom. And I wrote my story,

456
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: and I included the characters in my story were kids

457
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: in the class, So I made them the prota, certain

458
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: kids in the class that were you know, popular or

459
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 1: everybody liked. I kind of made them the protagonists. And

460
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: then when I it was funny, And when I read

461
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: the story, the whole class, including the teacher, were belly laughing,

462
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: And I remember like looking up being like this feeling.

463
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: I wrote this at my desk and all of these kids,

464
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: including that teacher, are cracking up. Is like was like

465
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: a Eureka moment for me, like, oh, I want to

466
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: keep doing this like this, not only performing it, but

467
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: the fact that these are my thoughts that I said,

468
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: Naima Johnson did something, you know, funny on this adventure

469
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: that I'd made up. Whatever it was, it was a

470
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: great It was a great feeling. And I think that

471
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: that that it's sort of just kind of dovetailed into

472
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: all the things I was doing, the community, theater, the

473
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: camp and stuff like that. Did you get a lot

474
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: of calls from school about how creative your son was?

475
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: And um, when he was in school, Um, he didn't

476
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: do a lot of theater. He did theater camp in

477
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: the summer. But one story I do remember is when

478
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: he was in high school, he was very active in

479
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: the television and radio station they had at the high school.

480
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: A what was it? What did you call it? Um, Well,

481
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: in college it was called RTVF. I forgot what the

482
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: what the high version of them, which is where you

483
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: rolling the TV the av squad. I told everyone to

484
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: Mom about how I was when I was younger. I

485
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: was I thought I was so cool because I was

486
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: on the I was on the team that would roll

487
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: the projectors into the classroom, and I I just I

488
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: thought I was Fonzie. I just thought there was nobody

489
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: cooler than me because I was wheeling that projector into

490
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: the classroom. There you are, I mean, yeah, but I

491
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: go ahead, tell them tell the story about itself. The

492
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: story is that there was a news program that um

493
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: was on a local station, you know, that they had

494
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: in the community, and so they did a real news program.

495
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: I think every week, Sack, I don't know, something like that. Yeah, anyway,

496
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: I remember it was Channel thirty five. Yes, and you

497
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: were I guess for a series of them or a

498
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: couple of them. You were the director. Yeah, and uh

499
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: you won Director of the Year at in high school

500
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: that year, my first award for directing. Yes, and this

501
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: is one of the moments I remember being very proud

502
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: of you. And it's happened since then, but this was

503
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: one of the first. The man who ran the program

504
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: came over to me afterwards and said, you have no

505
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: idea how wonderful he is with all the people who

506
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: are doing this program. He's talking to them through the

507
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: microphone and telling them they're doing a great job. He's

508
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: telling them that was wonderful. I love that when they

509
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: make a mistake, he's telling them, don't worry. He's whispering

510
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 1: to them and he said, I never saw anything like that.

511
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: So it made me very proud of you as a person.

512
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: You brought tears to my eyes, Mom, because I love

513
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: that you told that story. But also I was a

514
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: very happy time. You know, I did feel quite alienated

515
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: in high school. As you know. I had friends and everything,

516
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: but I just couldn't I wasn't into sports, and I

517
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: couldn't find my thing. And in that TV group I

518
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: found my people, and in directing, I found a thing

519
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: that really lit me up. And I really happy member

520
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: reads from being there. So I just have to say

521
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: one more thing that every time I visit one of

522
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: your sets, you've been going for a while, you all

523
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: know each other, the thing is humming, and somebody, at

524
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: least one person often more come over to me and say,

525
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: your son is running a beautiful set here. We all

526
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: love each other and we love him and that's a

527
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. And that started with that director in high school. Yeah,

528
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 1: mister Mullen, Yeah, yeah, shout out, mister Mullen. I bet

529
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: you never thought, never thought you'd get a shout out,

530
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: mister mullin. But mister Mullen, I don't know if you'll

531
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: listen to the Truthfully, I'm not even I'm not even

532
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: sure if he's still with us. But he was a

533
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: wonderful teacher. And uh, and it was a great experience.

534
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: Um wow, I wonder if any of my teachers listen

535
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: to our podcast. If you do. And you failed me,

536
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: and you thought I wasn't going to amount to anything

537
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: in your face so much? Yeah, and your face. I

538
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: remember I had a teacher that my charms didn't work

539
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: on her, and she she this was at the height

540
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: of family ties, I think, and and I thought I

541
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: thought I was I thought I was a little like

542
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Alex P. Keaton and and but this is so she

543
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: she came. We were all waiting outside the class, and

544
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: she showed up late. And I think I was like

545
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: trying to be like a funny wise ass and I

546
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: was like pointing to my watch, like and she turned

547
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: to me and she said, Zach, I'm really not into

548
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: the whole Alex P. Keaton thing. Oh I never forgot

549
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: that that had to feel good. It hurt my feelings

550
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: that I that she didn't think my Alex P. Keaton

551
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: esque charm was charming. But I but, um, but the

552
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: fact that you the fact that she knew that you

553
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: were doing Alex P. Keaton without you being like I'm

554
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: doing Alex P. Keaton. No, I mean I'm saying I

555
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: try to be. That was silver lining right there. The

556
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: silver line is freaking. I'm a genius actor because I impressionist,

557
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: because I was playing a character and you picked up

558
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: one it. Yes, you got what I was going with. Um, Um,

559
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: wait what I was thinking about something? What are we

560
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: talking about? Right before that? Um? We were talking about you?

561
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I blank tongue. Um, so mom, what was

562
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: it like? No, but go go back to obviously, Well,

563
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about Scrubs. Um, you do you

564
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: remember when I called you? You were I think you

565
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: were the first call I made when I because when

566
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: I after my sixth audition for Scrubs, I had a

567
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: Motorola star Tech if you recall those, and I put

568
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: it on the I had been told that I will

569
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: know sooner, i'd know probably today or tomorrow, and I

570
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: put the Motorola star Tech I remember, on the passenger

571
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: seat of my Nissan two forty SX, and I just

572
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: started driving on the one on one Freeway and my

573
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: phone rang and it was I believe it was Bill Lawrence,

574
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: who said, I'm I'm not supposed to tell you because

575
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: every other people want to tell you, but you got it,

576
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: and I'm so excited, and I was freaking out, and

577
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I knew that you would be

578
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: my first call. So do you do you remember that

579
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: moment at all? You I do remember the call exactly,

580
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: and I remember I didn't know about all the callbacks.

581
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know the process at all, because I think

582
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: you were kind of holding back because it was very big,

583
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: and I don't think you wanted to get us all excited,

584
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and then be disappointed. Um, And there's

585
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: nothing like that phone call when you got to tell

586
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: your mom. I didn't get to part, so I'm sure.

587
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: I know. I think I had turned, but with both

588
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: of my parents, I think I'd got into a place.

589
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: You know, I was waiting tables. I was in a lull.

590
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: You know, being an actor, there's highs and lows at

591
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: all stages. And at this stage, I had gotten some

592
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: indies and I had gotten some stuff, but I was

593
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: kind of at a lull. I was working as a waiter,

594
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: and I didn't wanted them to get excited before there

595
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: was any you know, so I would. I would even

596
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: if I even when I was six auditions in, I

597
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: was probably minimizing it because I didn't want to disapp

598
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: point them, you know, yes, yes, but it was very,

599
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: very exciting. And then what I think happened was that

600
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: it grew on me. You know, I began to realize

601
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: over a period of days and even weeks, what this

602
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: was going to be the first season. You know, we

603
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: didn't know, of course, that it would be many seasons.

604
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: And then the you know, it started to do very well.

605
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: You know, the ratings were extremely good, and it was exciting,

606
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: very very exciting. And I remember bringing Sarah home. We

607
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: were going to the upfronts, which we've talked about here

608
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of times, and Sarah came over to the house,

609
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: and you everyone instantly fell in love with Sarah, as

610
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: you do in real life. And I remember at one point,

611
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, I had had girlfriends that weren't exactly helping

612
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: around the house that much as as a mom would

613
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: would like. And I remember Sarah was over just as

614
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: a friend, but there she was at the kitchen sink

615
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: doing dishes from dinner her and she called out, she

616
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: was like, did anyone let the dog out, and my

617
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: mom was like, I love her. Remember that. I remember

618
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: Sarry doing the dishes and calling over the water, did

619
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: anyone let the dog out? And my mom training and

620
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: be like, I love her. Oh my god, you can

621
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: marry her right now? I know. Well she is, uh,

622
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: she is quite a catch, and and we we miss her.

623
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: She's coming on the show a bunch, but we don't

624
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: see it that much because she's in Canada. Well, tell

625
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: me about do you remember visiting set for the first time?

626
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: What that was like? Yes, because it was like nothing

627
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: I had ever done before in my life. You know,

628
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: I'd never seen a set of that size and complexity.

629
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: And wait pause, look who it is? She is, my sweetheart.

630
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: Ah you, I'm good. How are you? I'm good, I'm good.

631
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: It's wonderful to see your face. Well, thank you. I

632
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: just took my anti aging face led mat Oh that's

633
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: why you look fourteen. Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you.

634
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: It works in the closet and phones on. Yeah, Mom,

635
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that. I know you

636
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: listen to the show sometimes, but this is this is

637
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: Donald's a home studio in their walking closet. I definitely

638
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: know about the closet this beautiful. Yeah, we always get

639
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: to see when when when you've picked up the dry cleaning. Yeah,

640
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: I was actually thinking about it this morning. I was like,

641
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: I need to redo the closet for this live show.

642
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: Now that we have now that we have HD cameras,

643
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: everything is more, everything's gonna be clearer. Oh my god,

644
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: that's so scary. We gotta figure something out this week.

645
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: And congratulations's so cute. I love looking at the online

646
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: They're just adorable. Oh, they're ready to come visit you

647
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: whenever you want. Oh, that would be so good. Now

648
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: out of this terrible time that we are all in

649
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: and we can know. I know we miss you so much.

650
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: We haven't seen you in so long. Last time we

651
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: saw you was like Zach's birth, like a little bit

652
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: after was it. I know it's will it will have

653
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: been over a year. Probably. My birthday is April sixth,

654
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: coming up, those of you who want to shower me

655
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: with presents, No, we know, we know everybody in your calendar,

656
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: a case on my calendar every year. All right, we

657
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: gotta go because we will call you. Okay, I love you.

658
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: Tell my mom that she's wonderful. I tell her all

659
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: the time. I tell her on Instagram all the time.

660
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: We liked each other from the first moment. Yes, all

661
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: because Casey's the kind of woman who'll say did anyone

662
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: let the dog out? Now, Casey won't say did anyone

663
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: let the dog out? She's not. I don't even know

664
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: what that means. It wasn't there. Um, So we have

665
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: a call her. Guys, we should go to break first.

666
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: Let's go to go to break and then we're gonna

667
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: take a caller that Joelle found to ask my mom

668
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: a question about talking to your children when you're going

669
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: through a very shitty thing called the divorce. We'll be

670
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: right back after these messages and any by back by,

671
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: all right, we're back. We're back. We're back back, and

672
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: Joelle bringing the caller to answer the caller's question, Say

673
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: hello to Chrissie Martel. Give it up for Chrissy Martei.

674
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: Where is your thunderous applause? Chrissie, we're giving you thunderous applause?

675
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: So excited. I this is like a dream come true.

676
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: Oh you're very sweet. We're so happy that you're here

677
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: and uh and that you're willing to come on and uh,

678
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: so you've got you see Joelle and Daniel. Um, I

679
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: don't know where the boxes are for you. That's Donald

680
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: who you recognize. And that beautiful woman with the scarf

681
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: is my mom in Hello. It's so I'm just honored

682
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: to meet you. It's so exciting. That's amazing. Well, we're

683
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: glad have you. Where are you calling from, Chrissy, Aurora, Illinois,

684
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: a western suburb of Chicago, Chicago in the house. Okay,

685
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: I know why Joel got you on the line. Chicago

686
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: natives stick together. You Illinois girls stick together. Yes, Illinois.

687
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: If you if you're from Illinois and you write in,

688
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: you're way more likely to get picked if you brag

689
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: about loving Illinois in the subject. Just brag about that,

690
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: or brag about Northwestern one or the other. Well, I

691
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: don't read them, Joel do so you have to. Maybe

692
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: you could say that you love rebels, you love Ganja,

693
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: you love all things that Joel might enjoy. Ps. Five.

694
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: Ganja's legal here now, so you know. Oh, welcome to

695
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: the club New Jersey too. By the way, all right, listen, Chrissy.

696
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: We had you on because we have the gift of

697
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: having a brilliant child psychologist here who's written a new

698
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: book called The Falling Downtime, which is aimed to help

699
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: children roughly six to ten mom deal with helping helping

700
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: parents talk to their children. And we had you on

701
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: because I understand that you're going through a divorce and

702
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: have children of this age, and we thought maybe you

703
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: could ask my mom a question that would help facilitate

704
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: more conversation for people that are in a similar place. So,

705
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: so go ahead with your question. I would love to um,

706
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: is it doctor Bradzynski? Yes, say and but please call

707
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: it well and it's it's a pleasure. So yes, I

708
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: am going through divorce. I am also a divorce attorney,

709
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: so I was telling Joel, I'm going the DIY route

710
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: representing myself. But you know, it's it is what it is.

711
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: And this has been a tough year for a lot

712
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: of parents, and a lot of parents of kids with

713
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: special needs, which I happen to be. I have two children,

714
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: ages four and a half and three. He's actually Oscar.

715
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: He's going to be turning three on Tuesday. So they

716
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: are a handful. They're awesome boys, they are autistic, and

717
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's just tough sometimes and so parenting can

718
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: be difficult, but really, what I care most about is them,

719
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: and I think that's what I always tell my clients.

720
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: The most important thing is the best interests of the children,

721
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: making sure they're okay. And so my question is, you know,

722
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: when I am with my boys and they're a little

723
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: bit younger than your target audience, but as they grow,

724
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, these things will probably be important too. They're

725
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: too young for this book, yeah, okay, Well when they

726
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: get old enough for it, and just as they get

727
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: old enough to maybe understand a little bit better about

728
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: mom and dad not living in the same house anymore,

729
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, there will be a lot of questions. But

730
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: the one thing that I really care about the most

731
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: is just how they're feeling. And sometimes they'll be sad

732
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: and I can't exactly understand why. So I'm wondering should

733
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: I ask them specifically, are you sad because Dad's not here?

734
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: Or should I ask them why are you sad? You know,

735
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: because I don't want to bring it up if it's

736
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: not on their mind, But I also don't want to

737
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: glaze over it if it is something that I should

738
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 1: you address at any given time? Right, So, of course

739
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't know your children, and so I'm I'm answering

740
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: in a kind of a global way, but you'll take

741
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: from it whatever works for you and your kids. In general,

742
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 1: it's safe to say knowing why a child is sad

743
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: is less important than being a person who notices that

744
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: they're sad. So, really, for your three year old, most

745
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: three year rolls don't really know why they're sad unless

746
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: something just happened, like someone took their toy or they

747
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: dropped some food or whatever it is. They know about

748
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: that sad, but the larger issues, which are in your

749
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: case sadness certainly about the divorce and some grief probably

750
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: as well. Three year olds feel, but they don't know

751
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: how to tell you. They don't have the language to

752
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: tell you. So the best thing to do if you

753
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: sense that three year old is sad is to kind

754
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: of maybe curl up in a nice cozy place and

755
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: get the stuffed animal that's the favorite, and read a

756
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: favorite book, maybe some food, some good food, and do

757
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: a little snuggling and just kind of be together and

758
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 1: make a plan for later rather than try to find out.

759
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: What you're doing is really acting as though you know,

760
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: and that is the most important thing in for your

761
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: four year old, it's a little different. Four and a

762
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: half year old, it's a little different. And again you'll

763
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: judge this from your kids and whatever parts of autism

764
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: are affecting them. But for four and a half year old,

765
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: you can be a little more explicit. But rather than

766
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: say what are you sad about? One of the things

767
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: I like to do a lot of drawings with kids

768
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: this age. They love to draw. So you can do

769
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: what I call a temperature tower. It's just a simple line,

770
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: a vertical line with one at the bottom and a

771
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: hundred at the top, and you draw one for you,

772
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: and you draw one for your child with their name

773
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: at the top, and the temperature chart is how am

774
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: I feeling right now? And you do yours first, and

775
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: you say, well, I'm about a seven. I'm okay, but

776
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: you know I might be a five. I don't know, sorry, mom.

777
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: If you do, you mean one to one to ten

778
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: or one to one hundred. Sorry I should have said

779
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: one to ten doesn't matter. Yeah, But you so you're saying,

780
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: if let's just let's stick with one to ten because

781
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: that's where you started. So you're saying one to ten,

782
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: So you say I'm a five or I'm a seven whatever,

783
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: Rather than even if you're a one, I wouldn't go there.

784
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: I would just sort of stay in the middle. But

785
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: it gives the child that's listening to you an option

786
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: to not be a ten. Now the child may say

787
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm a ten, and that's interesting. But if you've come

788
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: through a little period of sadness and you sense something,

789
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: you could say, okay, you're at ten. Wow, that's amazing.

790
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm at ten, but I'm not always at ten.

791
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: So it's a kind of a way that you're communicating

792
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: together that you know that it isn't always okay, and

793
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: you may get a conversation out of that from your

794
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: four and a half year old, a little bit of conversation.

795
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 1: You can also say, well, when I do such and such,

796
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: I feel like a ten. And when I do this,

797
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: I tend to feel down a little bit lower. Do

798
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: you have any things that make you higher or lower?

799
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: Another thing is what I call it frown box. So

800
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: you don't say it's a sad box, but a frown

801
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: box is any little box that you find and some

802
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: objects they could be stones that aren't swallowable or whatever,

803
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: and you take turns putting things in the box, and

804
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: you call them frowns and you say what you're frowning about,

805
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: so you participate in this as well. So that part

806
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: of it is that the child feels that I'm a

807
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: human being. I'm like my mom and I'm you know,

808
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: if your husband, your exitent husband could do this too,

809
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: it would be wonderful for them to share this with him,

810
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: both the temperature towers and the frown box. So you

811
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: get to see you're a child, but you get to

812
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: see I'm not. There's nothing wrong with me that I

813
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: have these feelings. I have these feelings with so to

814
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: my mom and dad. Yeah, one of the most powerful

815
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: things that I've shared with the listeners here, Mom, that

816
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: you always said to me is um, you know and

817
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: I and I you said it to me as a child,

818
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: and I think of it now when I'm forty about

819
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 1: to turn forty six, which is you said I would

820
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: share with you something that was upsetting me and you go,

821
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: of course, that makes total sense. If you didn't feel

822
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: that way, there'd be something wrong with you that when

823
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: you're going through this X y Z experience, If you

824
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: didn't feel abc, there'd be something the matter with you

825
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 1: that well you have I found that you said since

826
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: you said that, Zach, we've started doing that. Yeah, well

827
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: that's all my mom. That's her, that's that's her specialty.

828
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: Another thing I wanted to say, Mom, that you gave

829
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: me that really helped me as a child. Um, there

830
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: were these worried dolls. I don't know if they were.

831
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: They a Mexican and they still sell them. Yeah, I'm

832
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: sure you might find them on Amazon, just on the

833
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: internet somewhere. I believe they're called Mexican worried dolls. And

834
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: their their their their minuscule, they're they're about a centimeter

835
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: high and then go in a little container. And what

836
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: you do, is my mom, as my mom taught me,

837
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: is for a worrying child. And I was a kid

838
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: who worried a lot. As you teach each you tell

839
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: each figure one of your worries, and you put them

840
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: in the little canister next to your bed, and while

841
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: you're sleeping, they work on your worries. So it's like

842
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: the child can have their anxiety relieved because like, don't worry.

843
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: These dolls are specifically meant to work. That's all they

844
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: do as they work on worries. And I remember being

845
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: a kid being like this is a big worry. So

846
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: I would like talk to them. I'm like, look, I'm

847
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: gonna need six of you guys on this worry. I

848
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: would I would totally like give them tasks and I'd

849
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: be like, look, I need everybody, but you you're gonna

850
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: you have a little small worry, but you guys are

851
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: all on this main worry. And I really believed it,

852
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: and um and took comfort in knowing that while I

853
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: was sleeping, they'd be attacking the worry. It was awesome.

854
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: They don't they don't take it away, but they work

855
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, they work for you, and I love

856
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: it for two reasons. In my household, Um, my boys

857
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: are I'm white and my husband's Mexican, so they would

858
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: it would be great for them. I'm always trying to incorporate,

859
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, their culture, and that would be cool. But also,

860
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: sleeping is tough just for us in general. Kids with

861
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: autism are always up in the middle of the night

862
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: and we're still working on that. But if that could

863
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: be something that could help them stay in their own

864
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: bed and stay you know, not have to because I'm

865
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: a sandwich right now, I'll have both boys on either

866
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: side of me and they just roll right into me.

867
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: So I'm like trying to teach them to sleep in

868
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: their own beds and stuff, and that's a great idea.

869
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look those up. Yeah, I got a lot.

870
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: It was. It was I was so lucky to have

871
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: a child psychologist mom, because she and people always joke

872
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: with me over the years like, oh, because my stepfather

873
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: was a psychologist and my stepmother's a therapist, and people

874
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: are like, oh, were they always all analyzing you? And

875
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: the truth is I didn't. I didn't feel that at all.

876
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: I felt like I was really well listened to. M

877
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: They understood the importance of listening to the child and

878
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: hearing what they have to say. And I always felt heard.

879
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: And so you want to men, and we're never like

880
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: in a room with a big mirror. Ever, what do

881
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: you mean, like you you never ever we're in like

882
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: a room you mean like a two way mirror where

883
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: they were Thank goodness now, no, right though, when you

884
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: say stuff like that, that's the first thing you go to.

885
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: It's like, wow, you had a lot of you had

886
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: a lot of therapy and your yes, yes. So my

887
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: father in his later years, my father in his later

888
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: years taught a marriage counseling course with my stepmother, so

889
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: then he got on the therapy therapy trained too, was

890
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: getting in from all sides. It's important. I mean, you

891
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,479
Speaker 1: can tell when you listen to this podcast that Zach,

892
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: especially you have had a lot of words of wisdom

893
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: in your life because you have such empathy with everyone

894
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: that you talked to. And I just think that that's

895
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: one of the best parts about listening. I mean, I

896
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: love the show, I love everything about it, but I

897
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: will say, Anne, you raised a nice young man who

898
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: is very empathy setic to people and kind, and I

899
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: just think that it's so cool to listen and see

900
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: that your two favorite actors are really good people and

901
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: they're just fun talking to one another, and it's just

902
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: so much fun listening. You're very sweet, Chrissy. I heard

903
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: everything you just said. You just said Zach is empathetic,

904
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: and I'm not I heard you know, no, no, no,

905
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure when when Chrissy's back on for your mom's show,

906
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: she'll say the same thing about it. I am good

907
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: with moms, so you know, I know you're just kidding.

908
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: I am. That means a lot to me, Chrissy. And yes,

909
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: not only did I have empathetic therapists in my life,

910
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: but I also was in therapy. We you know, there

911
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: was no stigma in my family about going to therapy

912
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: or seeking out new age things, whether it be books

913
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: or courses. It was a very the environment was very

914
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: open to working on yourself. You know. I know plenty

915
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: of people listening, I'm sure their families were the opposite.

916
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: There was something wrong with you if you were going

917
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: with therapists, or or there was something wrong with you

918
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: if you're reading a self help book or or had

919
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: interest in a workshop. So I'm very blessed that I

920
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: had a family that was like, do it all, read everything,

921
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, take that wacky workshop where you're walking on

922
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: goals or whatever it is. That's it. It's very interesting

923
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: our parents kind of had the same type of not

924
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: the same upbringing, but had a lot of the same interests.

925
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: And so because of that, Zach and I have a

926
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: very similar upbringing where we took workshops and you know

927
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: what I mean, and therapy was wasn't looked at as

928
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: something bad. You know, um, it's it's it's it's really interesting.

929
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: It's really that I find that the most interesting about

930
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: our friendship. It's like we were destined to meet if

931
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: you ask me, because a lot of the things that

932
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: we went through as kids are just too similar, you know,

933
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: it's just we have well learn that we both would

934
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: sneak into the light. I told Donald mom on the

935
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: on the last show that I would other kids were

936
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: sneaking behind the school to smoke cigarettes. I would sneak

937
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: into the school auditorium to play with the ancient lighting board.

938
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: And Donald was like, I did too, but he did

939
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: it because he was in the A V. Club man.

940
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: I did it because I thought it was like, you know,

941
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: I was freaking uh flying turn turning everything into light speed? Right? Great? Um, well,

942
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: I hope that that was helpful, Chrissy. Um um. I

943
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: would say fix your life? Well, but I'm scared. No,

944
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: we don't want to. We we don't. This isn't fix

945
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: your life segment, but definitely, um, get a copy. Do

946
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: you want to fix your life? I actually had a

947
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: just a quick question about it, but I am interested

948
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: in the book too. Yeah, so get the book. Um,

949
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: the Falling Down Time. Your kids are obviously a little

950
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: young for it, but my clients kids will. But yeah,

951
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: you're a diversity divorsity, but this should be on your

952
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: coffee table in your office, for your for your for

953
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: your clients falling down to tell them where I found it,

954
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: and they'll just like what you are on that podcast.

955
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: You know what? You can put a post it note

956
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: on this on the coffee table in your in your

957
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: waiting room. That says Zach Braff's mom wrote this awesome book,

958
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: I Will The Falling Down Time, which is on Amazon.

959
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these

960
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: fine words. Okay, Donald is giving you a fix your

961
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: life opportunity. I wasn't going to do it, but he's

962
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: the co host. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Illinois's

963
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: favorite segment. It's time to fix You're all right? Go ahead, Chrissy. Okay,

964
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: Well it's pretty simple. I am single, so I'm I'm

965
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: just kind of ready to start dating. I know it

966
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: sounds like you know people. Everyone does it at their

967
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: own pace, whenever the time is right. Right for me,

968
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm feeling the time time is right. I am. And

969
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: I apologize to my ex if he's listening to this, sorry,

970
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: but he can date two, go for it whatever. I

971
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: have two awesome kids and they are young and well

972
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: obviously we're a package deal. But I want to get

973
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: to know someone for who they are. I want them

974
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: to get to know me for who I am. You know,

975
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: when is the right time to tell people about it?

976
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: What do I? How do I approach this subject? I mean,

977
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: I think Donald you would know, um what it's like

978
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: dating when you already have children and obviously finding someone

979
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: that you want to be a companion with and then

980
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: and then I am still open to having children some day.

981
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: M thirty two, so I have time and I would

982
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: love to start a life with someone in that way.

983
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: But also right now, I'm just looking to date two

984
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: right that. That's normal and you should and there's nothing

985
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: wrong with that. Have you started? The obvious question that

986
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: comes to mind is the apps? Have you tried? And

987
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: you don't have to go on the Tinder of course,

988
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: but like one of the more ones for relationships like

989
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: match and such? Have you have you done any of that? Yeah?

990
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: Funny enough, I met my husband on e harmony, so

991
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: that one's out. Yeah, it doesn't stuck, So I M

992
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, I looked at so many apps. I

993
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: got on I'm then I got off of that. I

994
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: got on to bed and I'm like, I've talked to people.

995
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: I will come on a couple dates. I just don't

996
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: want to like rope somebody in and then be like,

997
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: by the way, I have two kids. Well, I think

998
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: in your match profile, you in your match if I

999
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: was advising you as your dating advisor, I would not

1000
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: I would have your beautiful children in somewhere in your

1001
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: match profile, pictures of you happy with your kids, you know,

1002
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: so you're never misleading anyone. I'm I'm a mom of two.

1003
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's think how many people are out there

1004
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: dating with children. The kind of man you're going to

1005
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: be looking for is not someone who's going to be

1006
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: afraid of that, obviously. Yeah, I was gonna say if

1007
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: you're if you if you find somebody and you say

1008
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: I have kids and that's a deal break up for them,

1009
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: that wasn't the person for you anyway, right, So you

1010
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: know it's it's it's I don't think. I don't think

1011
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: there is a scenario where you don't automa where from

1012
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: the gate you should be telling people I'm a single mother,

1013
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: you know. Um, I think the more honest and open

1014
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: you are, you'll attract the type of person you're looking for.

1015
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: You know where. Uh so I wouldn't. I wouldn't worry

1016
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: about I wouldn't worry about that. You'll also remove the

1017
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: anxiety um right away that oh I'm gonna be misleading

1018
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: and found out, like no, you're being right up front,

1019
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: like don't don't come knocking if you're not interested in

1020
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: they'll still come knock. And trust me, yeah they still

1021
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: they'll still come knocking. Oh yeah, I've had a couple

1022
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: of Yeah. But you might also, I mean, you know,

1023
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: full disclosure, you might you might want some fun and

1024
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: and just some fun dating. It might. It might you

1025
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: might after being in a marriage going through this divorce

1026
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: which doesn't sound which obviously is unpleasant, you know, give

1027
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: yourself license to date and have fun and maybe not

1028
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: necessarily go right for the guy who's maybe going to

1029
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: be your next husband and stepfather to your kids. You

1030
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: might want to have a little fun dating time with

1031
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: people that aren't necessarily father material, but fun fun. At

1032
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you and if it does

1033
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: get to the point where it does become that serious,

1034
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: you could say, well, you know, I got into I

1035
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: wasn't I was I'm a divorced parent, I wasn't really

1036
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: looking for a relationship. Where we are now is where

1037
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: we are, and so I'm opening up more to you.

1038
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: But to be honest, I was just trying to get

1039
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: out there and meet new people, to be honest with you,

1040
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: and you just so happy it just so happened to

1041
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: get serious with you. So if you want to keep

1042
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: it light, it's all right to keep it light too.

1043
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: It depends on what it is that you want to do.

1044
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: As Zach just said, if you're looking for another relationship,

1045
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: I would be as open as possible when you know,

1046
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: letting everyone know who you are if that's what you want,

1047
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: because I always feel if you're withholding anything, then you're

1048
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: gonna always gonna have this anxiety in your head about

1049
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: oh what if? What if he finds out? So don't

1050
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: just let's just get rid of it right off the

1051
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: bat by being open with it in your profile of

1052
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: whatever dating site you're using. But if you're going out

1053
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: to have fun, who cares, It's none of that business. Yeah,

1054
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: you can have two profiles, my dating for a fun

1055
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: ROMP profile with no kids, and then your relationship profile

1056
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: with kids. Mom, what do you think of me? And

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00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: Donald's pop psychology? Are we doing a good job. You're terrific.

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00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't add anything. Oh, there you go. I never

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00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: in a million years thought I would get dating advice

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00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: from the Zach Breath. Well, we give great advice and

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00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: we were just PhD approved by my mom to give counseling.

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00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: So there you go, Joel. Joel's out on the dating market.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any tips for um? No, that sounded

1064
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: really good to me. Just being honest and upfront and

1065
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, have fun. Dating should be fun. So Joel's

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00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: about to go on two dates in front of a

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00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: lot of people the live show. Christy, are you going

1068
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: to join us for the live show? I got my ticket?

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00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: I'm mom? Are you joining us for the live show?

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00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: Do you even know about it? Absolutely? All right, Friday,

1071
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: everyone listens. A mom doesn't know about the live show?

1072
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: I get your mom on board. Donald, Now, mom, do

1073
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: you do you still listen regularly? Be honest, it's okay

1074
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: if you're not fully up to day, listen intermittently. Okay, Well,

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00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: I want to tell you something. When Donald and I

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00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: started this podcast, Chrissy, we made a joke saying a

1077
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: handful of Scrubs fans to listen and maybe our moms

1078
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: turns out both of our moms have checked out for

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00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: the long haul. It's become a global sensation. But our

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00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: mom's then know you well enough that this is not

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00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: exciting for them. But for us, it's like we're getting

1082
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: to know you and like know who you are. It's

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00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's fascinating. And I was just you know,

1084
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm such a diehard that everybody comes on here and

1085
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: they say, oh, I didn't like season nine. I liked it.

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00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, when's the last time

1087
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: you watch season nine? Well? And how many times? And

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00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: how many times did you watch season? More importantly, Chrissy,

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Speaker 1: what are your feelings on the soundboard? You are you

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00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: pro sound no soundboard? You are no soundboard? Chris let

1091
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: her answer no, ye, what are your thoughts on you

1092
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: like it? Yes, a lot of people do. Casey, what

1093
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the soundboard? Oh? Well that was me.

1094
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: I was talking about the soundboard. You asked for it,

1095
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: You asked for it. Where are you going you asked

1096
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: for it? Oh? No, he has to go get mom.

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00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: This is a new thing. He likes to bring Casey

1098
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: on the show multiple times. You know what it is.

1099
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: He's so obsessed with his wife that he can't spend

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00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: an hour away from her, so we have to go

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00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: get her. I'm looking for I want to and she's

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00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: I know both women and both single women are like,

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00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: that's what I want. Where is he? Oh my god?

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00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: He's he literally, mom, he can't do an hour podcast.

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00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm I want to get Casey saying stuff. And so

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01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: now he's using the soundboard. He got his mom and

1107
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: a dollar on. He's saying some really mean things. Well,

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01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, no, I assure you he is

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01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: not Casey. He's just he's being crazy. Yes, he is.

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01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: We know that he is. What I'm like, what is

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01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: the soundboard that? No, Casey, I recorded this. Listen, okay,

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01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: Zacha love you, Zacha love you, Zach, I love you,

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01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: and I sometimes play it when I feel I need

1114
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: to hear hear your voice. Dude, do my show as

1115
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: you should. Let her hear the Oh and here's Donald

1116
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: wu tank forever. Here's Donald. Here's the other one, do

1117
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: or do not? There is no try? Oh and here's

1118
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: Donald's favorite sound Casey. Oh god, he come on, Casey,

1119
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: with all due respect, we got to wrap the show up.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not the one. I know your husband

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01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: who it is obsessed with you? How do you go

1122
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: get you when it's in here? Now? My good love you? No, no,

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01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: I love that woman. I love that woman for the listeners.

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01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: I love that one. That was not that last one

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01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: was not the board listeners. That was her. Hey, Donald,

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01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you while you're getting casey, and I mean,

1127
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 1: I said to the audience, who and my mom would go, God,

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01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: this guy is so obsessed with his wife he can't

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01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: be without her for an hour. And both single women went,

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01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: that's what I want. I feel husband material. I want.

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01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: I want a relationship that's like Turk and Carla. You know,

1132
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: they're just so real another they're so in love. But

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01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: then I also love how JD and Elliott. He says

1134
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: at the end, Elliott, You're my dream woman. I love. Yeah. Well,

1135
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean for that to happen, you gotta be either

1136
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: Turk or Carla, you know what. I relationships like that

1137
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: or on television. The real relationships are gonna have ups

1138
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: and down. Turkey call and never really had ups and downs. Man,

1139
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: there they're ups and down. Was what what are we

1140
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: gonna name? Is he? You know what I mean? Or

1141
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, like television relationships are meant to be just that,

1142
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: to uplift you and to want you to experience love

1143
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: like that. But you know what about I mean Bill Lawrence,

1144
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: I would say to his credit, I would say, he

1145
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: put in storylines about divorced people, and now he has

1146
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: ted Lasso and and and I think those things are

1147
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: important too, because when you're watching things, you kind of

1148
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: want to see scenarios that play out that you you know,

1149
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: what would you do in that situation or who's you know,

1150
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: But on TV, it just seems like they always end

1151
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: up you know, it always ends up the right way

1152
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: on television. You know, that's the That's the only thing.

1153
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: Like me personally, I wanted to I wanted movie. I

1154
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: wanted to be in relationships like the movies I saw

1155
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: like sixteen Candles and or The Breakfast Club and or

1156
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, those were ideal to me. And I tried

1157
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: really hard over and over again to find that. And

1158
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something right now, it's only in

1159
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: the movies, man like. And then if I found something

1160
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: that was close to it, I really didn't want it.

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01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: You know, all the movies don't always reflect how difficult

1162
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: it is and how much work a healthy relationship takes.

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01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: It's a lot of work. So what you see me

1164
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: and my wife do is. I mean, it's our stick

1165
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: and we we've perfected it. But you know, I want

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01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: all the listeners out there to know that you get

1167
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: the show. You know what I mean? Yeah, but you

1168
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: are I will say this about you. Of course you're

1169
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: a normal couple that go through your hard times in

1170
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: your arguments, but I will say that you are a

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01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: very doting, loving husband. You give her a lot of love. Yeah.

1172
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: Have you seen my wife? Yeah, she's a knockout. Yeah,

1173
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying, man, shake that. I don't appreciate it. We'll

1174
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: get Florence on here going, don't I love you? Um?

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01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: All right, guys, Chrissy, thank you for coming on. We

1176
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. And good luck with your with all

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01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: that's going on in your life. Thank you so much. This,

1178
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: like I said, it was a dream come true. And

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01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: good luck to you. I guess I'll see at the

1180
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: live show. So excited. Listen if you if you can

1181
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: get on the chat or if you want to shout

1182
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: out Joel or something like that, do it. Maybe we'll

1183
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get you on a live show too. Well,

1184
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know. Oh my gosh, oh

1185
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: all right, Christy, thank you, I love you, Bye guys,

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01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: bye bye hie. Here's the take care. Um. Well that's

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01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: our show, guys. Um um, don't forget to pick up

1188
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: the falling downtime. If you're someone who's going through a

1189
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: divorce and need to talk to your children, or if

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01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: someone in your life is going through that situation, it's

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01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: available on Amazon. And my mom's other book about adoption

1192
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: if if you're have an adopted child as a beautiful,

1193
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: beautiful book, um that that addresses the subject of the

1194
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: birth mother to the child, and that's called The Mowbray Bird,

1195
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: also available on Amazon. Mom, did you have fun? I

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01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun. Thank you for giving you chance.

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01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: It was terrific. Well, I love you very much. I

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01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: love you too. The live show and I love you Donald,

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01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: um and everyone, so please join us. Our next show

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01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: is the live show. We'll be watching my quarantine, all

1201
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 1: sorts of fun, all sorts of adventures. You'll be seeing

1202
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: us with our new fancy webcams that that we bought,

1203
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: and um, lots of guest appearances and fun and laughter. Right,

1204
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: than Tank forever. All right, count us out, Donald six seven,

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01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: eight stories about show. We made a bunch of nurses stories. Yea,

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01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: I show which I know. Mm hmmm