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Speaker 2: But welcome to episode four sixty six of the Bobbycast

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Speaker 2: of First, Eddie and I are going to talk about

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Speaker 2: also share Bobbycast clips from artists that we've had on

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Speaker 2: talking about these controversies, so you'll hear from Riba and

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Speaker 2: Martina and more. So it's a really cool topic, or

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Speaker 2: it was fun for Eddie and I to do, and

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Speaker 2: then we bring in some of the people actually talking

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Speaker 2: about it. We'll also talk to Ethan Fries. Now. The

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Speaker 2: thing with Ethan is I found him on TikTok. He

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Speaker 2: a time. His stories are mind blowing. He talks conspiracies.

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Speaker 2: He's on the spectrum a little bit, and he goes

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Speaker 2: and reads every all these redacted files as the government

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Speaker 2: and so it's not like he just goes, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: come up with something crazy. He reads all of this.

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Speaker 2: We talk about it here. You can follow him on

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Speaker 2: TikTok at Ethan Frice. His old TikTok was taken down

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Speaker 2: and never came back. It never came back, so he

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Speaker 2: is up now as at Ethan Fries. We just want

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Speaker 2: to say, free Ethan. Yeah, free freaking Ethan is what

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Speaker 2: we say. Here we go. We hope you liked this episode.

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Speaker 2: really the subscribers, the money, the comments. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Eddie and I are here to talk about

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Speaker 2: the ten most controversial songs in country music, and this

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Speaker 2: some of the artists have actually talked about these songs. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so we actually have clips with them and we can

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Speaker 2: start at number ten and I'll just say the song

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Speaker 2: to you and tell me what you think it's about

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Speaker 2: or why it would be controversial. Okay, because sometimes it

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Speaker 2: completely missed me that there was a message on some

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Speaker 2: but the message that you're putting out this is these

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Speaker 2: and it pushed boundaries, challenged culture, et cetera. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: it was created with the idea of when people hear

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Speaker 3: This is tough for me because I didn't really listen

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Speaker 2: I was like, that's a chain. I don't even know lyrics.

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Speaker 2: I know melodies and I know some lyrics. But number

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Speaker 2: ten is Independence Day from Martina McBride. Oh yeah, fourth

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Speaker 2: On fourth of July, you'll hear radio stations play Independence

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Speaker 2: Day and fourth of July. That's not what it's about.

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Speaker 2: It's about domestic violence. No way. I thought you were kidding. No,

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Speaker 4: You know, we had a lot of resistance at radio

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Speaker 3: But you know what, because of that, she opened doors

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Speaker 2: But in Independence Day, like, no, he heard her absolutely okay.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't realize we talked about this before that

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Speaker 3: I was probably seventeen, and I yeah, I get clicked.

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Speaker 2: And this here, it's funny that you never put that

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Speaker 3: All I remember was let freedom ring and Independence Day,

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Speaker 2: Man. Fourth of July Number nine is Okie from Muskogee. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm proud to be in Okie from Muskoge from Merle Haggard.

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Speaker 2: Actually that's crazy now, like a lot. My father in

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Speaker 3: So it has to be like protesting against the war.

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Speaker 3: protesting the Vietnam I'm thinking before the war. No, No,

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Speaker 2: Those are the protesters.

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Speaker 3: Those are the protesters that we know in America is

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Speaker 2: So then you're protesting the protesters, which you would be

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Speaker 2: Hippies are like, no, man, let's not go fight, Let's

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Speaker 2: doing it up. Then later he started to admit what

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Speaker 2: he talks about that in that. Wow. I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: So it was in both ways a bit controversial because

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Speaker 2: then he later admitted it really wasn't. So that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine all the country, small town people singing

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Speaker 2: They found that out? Yeah, man, that's number nine, number eight,

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Speaker 2: You've Never Been This Far Before? From Conway Twitty. I

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Speaker 2: don't know that one. I don't either, it says. The

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Speaker 2: lyrics to the song probably wouldn't pass muster today. It's

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Speaker 2: about getting intimate with a young woman who's still a

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Speaker 2: virgin oh boy, which earned the song of band from

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Speaker 2: many radio stations. After its original release in nineteen seventy three,

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Speaker 2: it still became a number one hit. You've Never Been

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Speaker 2: This Far Before was a number one hit. There are

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Speaker 2: creepy songs from the sixties and seventies, they just weren't

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Speaker 2: creepy then. But she's seventeen, she was just seventeen. There's

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Speaker 2: that one too, or she's fifteen, She's mine. How about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like shameless?

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Speaker 2: I know, because there it wasn't shamed. I mean, was it.

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Speaker 2: It's just it wasn't shamed. I mean they were thinking

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Speaker 2: I mean Elvis, you know, married one. Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 2: weird to sing about if you're an adult man. How

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Speaker 2: but do you know how old he was? I'm sure

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Speaker 2: About getting it? I don't know. It doesn't matter, Okay, yoh,

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Speaker 2: it does matter though, because I doesn't matter if you're

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Speaker 3: But do people even think did they even think about

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Speaker 3: me look bad because I'm fifty years old and I'm

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Speaker 2: You're still singing it, you have to think about that.

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Speaker 2: But my point is you didn't have to think about

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Speaker 2: it because it wasn't culturally inappropriate, because there were a

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Speaker 2: lot of songs that were like that. It's crazy he

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Speaker 2: wrote it as a soul songwriter. Oh no, Hey, himself

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Speaker 2: kill blame it on a buddy in the room with

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Speaker 2: an idea. Oh no, it wasn't my line. Oh it's

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Speaker 2: my son. My son told me about the idea. That sucks.

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Speaker 2: But again, there are a lot of if you type in,

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Speaker 2: and I have my phone, so I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: type in creepiest lyrics about being creepy young girls pop songs. Good,

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Speaker 2: this is. Mike, tell me what you find. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at a different thing here, but here is and I'm

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Speaker 2: searching this. I feel like I'm gonna get bad, like

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Speaker 2: somebody's gonna kick in the door. I mean, you just

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Speaker 2: got a red flag of the FBI. We watch this

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Speaker 2: guy's phone real quick. There are creepy lyrics and they

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Speaker 2: have every breath you take. But it's a different kind

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Speaker 2: of creepy. It's not young. That's like a stalker. There's

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Speaker 2: pumped up kicks. Not it, that's a shooting song? Oh

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Speaker 2: is it? Yeah? That's the we sing that one pumped

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Speaker 2: up kicks. You better run better run faster than my bullet.

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Speaker 2: Scarred old slaver knows he's doing all right. Hear him

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Speaker 3: You are my sunshine? Like I'm sure did parents sing

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Speaker 2: I don't recognize any of these songs, but maybe you do.

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Speaker 2: Here is the Beatles Run for your Life. Okay, you

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Speaker 2: it's weird to even search about young girls that you're

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Speaker 2: good morning, little school girl. It doesn't say who the

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Speaker 2: my gosh, vehicle. Don't know that one. My Sharona, my

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's my Sharona. Yeah, dude, how crazy

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Speaker 2: How about this one? Girl, You'll be a woman soon?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, is that Neil Dimon? I think so you'll

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Speaker 2: though you're sixteen. You're beautiful and your mind. You know

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, dude, at least throwing an eighteen year old.

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Speaker 2: It's all alone in their basement. Don't stand so close

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Speaker 2: how about walk about? Walk this way, walk this way,

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Speaker 2: move on that up. That's good. A fancy from Reba? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Well, when I was with Jimmy Bowen in the eighties,

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Speaker 5: A remix song? And I said, yeah, fancy. He said, oh, woman,

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Speaker 5: I said, I'm totally aware of that. It was like, Nope,

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Speaker 3: So we did it Tony to be that.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good song. It's like you read my mind.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to do that it's a great song,

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Speaker 6: I've had people in the business stop me and go man,

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Speaker 6: that was a good one. Y'all did like, would you

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Speaker 2: So I want to taste your lips and come on,

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Speaker 2: counterpoint Garth Brooks We Shall be Free? Oh yeah, big time,

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Speaker 2: I mean we Shall Be Free? Was you're a big

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Speaker 3: I am a big Garth guy. But I mean I

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. But the song and the video imagines a

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Speaker 2: And I believe that's the video, the super Bowl video.

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Speaker 3: That's a great one. They killed Earl Man because he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, murder. People got upset about that because there was

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Speaker 3: I think the song's great, Like I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 2: The heck. I thought us was like, let's bay all right,

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, really this song too.

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Speaker 2: Even with the domestic violence message to me, it really

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Speaker 3: Like songs can just be like, ah, I'm just listen

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Speaker 3: Arrow of course, homosexuality, yeah, LBG LGBTQ plus or don't

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Speaker 2: We When we first started, we had her coming aster

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Speaker 3: you had some markers there and she she did a

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Speaker 3: little drawing a follow your arrow and it was like

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Speaker 3: as an arrow, I think going through to a heart,

430
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Speaker 3: and then she'd like little birds on top of it

431
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Speaker 3: and it said follow your era, like save that, like

432
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Speaker 3: busted it out and saved it.

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Speaker 2: We left it up there forever.

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Speaker 3: I mean we must have had it out there for

435
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Speaker 3: a year or so, and then we eventually just got

436
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Speaker 3: rid of it.

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00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 2: That had been cool to keep, like a Banksy but

438
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: a Muscraves. Yeah, yeah, where is it? No? He got

439
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: wiped away board board though, I don't know. I hated

440
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,239
Speaker 2: it as gross. It's dirty, made their own gross, not

441
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 2: that the rest of the stuff doesn't, but this one

442
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Speaker 2: did not know temigral red ragtop, my red rag top.

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Speaker 3: No a convertible like it's just drive. I've always thought

444
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 3: that the song was about just driving the open road

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Speaker 3: with the red rag top.

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Speaker 2: One of the lyrics to the two thousand and two

447
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: song tells the story of young woman that chooses to

448
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Speaker 2: have an abortion without regrets. Some radio stations refused to

449
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Speaker 2: play the song. I didn't again, I don't hear lyrics. Yeah,

450
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: I didn't know that at all. And then number one

451
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 2: is the pill from the red len don't know pill

452
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: controversial nineteen seventy five of birth control, really the abortion bill,

453
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: but birth control. So that's what it was about, and

454
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 2: radio stations didn't play it. It became a crossover hit though,

455
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Speaker 2: because it became such a newsworthy song. Who was that

456
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Speaker 2: Lorettah Yeah yeah, Billboard Hot one hundred Singles chart. So

457
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Speaker 2: those are ten very controversial songs, you remember, Brick ben Folds. Yeah,

458
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: now we're getting into like pop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's I mean, there's probably a thousand lists

460
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Speaker 3: of a thousand controvers songs.

461
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Brick, I remember not thinking about anything after Christmas.

462
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Speaker 2: No one's here to find us out. Jeremy is about suicide. Obviously.

463
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Speaker 3: Jeremy was a real storyl jam of a kid who

464
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Speaker 3: shot himself in front of a class, and Jeremy was

465
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Speaker 3: this and it wasn't it was inspired by like a

466
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: real event that happened in Dallas, but he read in

467
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Speaker 3: the paper. It wasn't a guy named Jeremy or anything.

468
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 3: It was just a kid that shot himself in front

469
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Speaker 3: of the class. But then he created the story of

470
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Speaker 3: you know, Jeremy not being loved or having it getting

471
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Speaker 3: attention from anyone, and then finally shooting him inf front

472
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Speaker 3: of everyone's like, oh Jeremy spoken class.

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Speaker 2: To me, spooking. Yeah, yeah, that's tough, dude. They were,

474
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Speaker 2: yeah tough. Yeah. When you know the stories like that

475
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Speaker 2: and you hear the song again. If you've heard it

476
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Speaker 2: ten thousand times, it kind of hits new for the

477
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Speaker 2: first time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, daughter, you were daughter. Don't call me daughters

479
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Speaker 3: like sexual abuse.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Again, it's like one of those

481
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Speaker 2: where so what does that mean? They don't call me daughter?

482
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: Do you know it's it's a girl telling her stepdad,

483
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Speaker 3: don't call me daughter because you sexually abused me.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. Sometimes I sing it with a smile.

485
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I was like, don't call me daughter.

486
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Speaker 3: Gotta be careful. Those programs know that. That's what that was.

487
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 3: Pro dam songs like It's just more and more you

488
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Speaker 3: go into. I'm like, wow, this is deep, this.

489
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Speaker 2: This is dark. I also am pledging here to never

490
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Speaker 2: listen to she was seventeen, if you know what I mean. Bro, Yeah, Paul,

491
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Speaker 2: what do you mean, John? We don't like it anymore?

492
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: What do you talk about? All Right? That is the article.

493
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 2: Thanks to Yard Barker for putting that out, and you know,

494
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: we elaborated it on a bit and had some clips

495
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: that kind of went along with it. But I just

496
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 2: talk about some of those songs and some that I

497
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: didn't even know that's what the meaning was. But yeah,

498
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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys listening.

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Speaker 7: Hank Ty the Bobby Cast. We'll be right back and

500
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Speaker 7: we're back on the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Ethan. I love what you do. Man. First of all,

502
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm a fan, and I know I reached out to

503
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: you on TikTok and it was like, because you cover

504
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: so many things, you were definitely an investigative journalist and

505
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: I think that that what you're doing, you do it

506
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: in a very interesting way. And I also like it

507
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: when you go and then we'll do the because we're

508
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 2: already recording, but I like when you go, all right,

509
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna really get into this, but let me just

510
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: do it up front for everybody who's gonna flip the screen,

511
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: tell you what we're about to do. Like, I love

512
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: how you take either the news or like confidential documents

513
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: that have been dropped and you explain them to Moron's me.

514
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: So first, I am a fan. That's why I'm bringing

515
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Speaker 2: you on. So thank you for being here today.

516
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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much, Bobby.

517
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Speaker 2: So, something that just happened. I don't know, is your

518
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: account down, like your your main account.

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00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it got permanently banned. I lost one hundred and

520
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: twenty thousand followers. It's a bummer, but you know, you

521
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: start over a lot in life, so I'm not going

522
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: to let it hurt me too bad.

523
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Speaker 2: Permanently banned, not temporarily. Somebody flagged something, was it? Because well,

524
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Speaker 2: I'll ask you why.

525
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: So the whole Trump situation that happened. One of my

526
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: followers was in person at the rally, and he sent

527
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Speaker 1: me a video of what had happened, and it just

528
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: showed that everybody was more aware of what was going

529
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Speaker 1: to happen than what it seemed like like. There was

530
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes that went by people that were

531
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Speaker 1: fully aware that there was a shooter, telling the Secret Service,

532
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: and I just posted the video and I said, hey,

533
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Speaker 1: this is pretty weird, and that that was grounds for

534
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Speaker 1: taking my whole account. Why do you so less talking

535
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: about politics?

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Speaker 2: Why do you think you were banned? In your opinion,

537
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 2: why do you think the account was banned?

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00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't say for sure. I would like

539
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: to take it as a journalism award for I got

540
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: a little too close to something maybe, but there's there's

541
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: no concrete way to know for sure. The timing was

542
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Speaker 1: suspicious with the whole Trump thing and getting taken down,

543
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: and I think with politics images important, especially around election time,

544
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: so if there is a crackdown period, it would probably be.

545
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Speaker 2: Now do you hear from people that you talk about

546
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: in these stories, anybody reach out and say, hey, dude,

547
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: like we're going to sue you, or we're going to

548
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: like punch in the face, anything like that.

549
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Speaker 1: I've definitely had some very question I had a questionable

550
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: visit to my house and somebody told me to just

551
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: cool my jets, which that prompted me moving. That was

552
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: pretty scary. But aside from that, nothing, nothing too crazy.

553
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: I get a lot of you know, threatening messages every day,

554
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: but there's no telling who it's coming from. Usually just

555
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: people will mention a video I made, usually about Diddy,

556
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: saying you know you're pushing some sort of agenda. You

557
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: can't post this. Things will happen to you and then

558
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: nothing ever comes of it. But it can be a

559
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: little frightening.

560
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Speaker 2: Somebody came to your house.

561
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone did. I moved out of California because of that.

562
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Speaker 2: And did they knock on the door, How did you

563
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: have a conversation with them, and did you think it

564
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: was just somebody like a solicitor or something.

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Speaker 1: That was my first thought. I was expecting it to be,

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00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: you know, the neighborhood vacuum salesman or a neighbor and

567
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: they just they told me quite frankly. I opened the

568
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Speaker 1: door and they just said, you know, your videos online

569
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: are doing nobody any good and you need to cool

570
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: your jets with the stuff you're talking about right now.

571
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: And they walked off. And that was pretty uh. I mean,

572
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: that was weird. It wasn't something to call home about,

573
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: but it was. It was scary for me. I lived alone,

574
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: so it was it was uncomfortable for sure, but not

575
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: really the kind of thing I would let stop me.

576
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: And all that infos you know, public on the internet.

577
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: So what am I going to do?

578
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: Why do this? Why are you pursuing this career, this

579
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: path of being the investigative journalist that you are.

580
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: So I have autism, not like super Bad or anything,

581
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: but it's always been an interest of mine reading through

582
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: these documents and just kind of learning what other people

583
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: don't know. My dad and I when I used to

584
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: live there, we'd hot up every night and talk about aliens.

585
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: And I started reading the Alien files, the CIA dropped

586
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: and I found so much interesting stuff. When I was fifteen,

587
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: I found a file that was talking about the Roswell

588
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: crash and it confirmed that it actually happened. It was

589
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: on the FBI's website. It had never been covered by

590
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: mainstream journalism, no corporate media. So that prompted this whole

591
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: spark of reading through these and over the years, I've

592
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: read probably thousands of these files, and after a while,

593
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: I just decided, you know, why isn't this on the internet.

594
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like they are slow rolling information about

595
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: UFOs or aliens or whatever UTA or whatever letters they're

596
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: using now, And why would the FBI put it on

597
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: their website as a document if they didn't want us

598
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Speaker 2: to know about it.

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00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: You know, that's one of my biggest questions. I think

600
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: they've got to be slow rolling something out, almost getting

601
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: us used to it. And there's no telling for sure,

602
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: but the fact that you have all of this stuff

603
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: on you know, the CIA website or the FBI National Archives,

604
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: and it's never been covered by mainstream journalism anywhere, No

605
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: Fox News, no NBC. It's mind blowing because it's straight

606
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: from the dot guv website. And I've found documents talking

607
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: about people doing stuff like in the show Stranger things,

608
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: moving things with their mind, burning people by touching, and

609
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: it's you're reading this like it's a science fiction novel

610
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: when you have to look back and go like, this

611
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: is a you know, it's paperwork approving more funding because

612
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: it works, and it makes me wonder was it fake

613
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: for the Soviets to try to trick them out or

614
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 1: is this something that we actually are doing and have

615
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Speaker 1: access to.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like they're putting it out and because

617
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: it is in such a documented, boring, contractual looking piece

618
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: of information that people won't read it because it just

619
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Speaker 2: is not appealing.

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Speaker 1: Probably, but that goes back to your point of why

621
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Speaker 1: is it even there? That's kind of one of the

622
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: things that made it so interesting for me is there's

623
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Speaker 1: no concrete way to know, but all of this information's there,

624
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: and when you really dig into it, half of these

625
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: crazy things you read about there's more evidence going for

626
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: it than against it.

627
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: So you believe there are things that aren't us on

628
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: a planet that is not this planet.

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Speaker 1: It's likely. It's really likely. I mean looking at how

630
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Speaker 1: big space is, for example, if you were to look

631
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Speaker 1: at how much space we've explored in comparison to the ocean,

632
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: it would be like us going and dipping a glass

633
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: in the water and saying, look at there's no fission here.

634
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: We must be alone. The amount of space we've actually

635
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Speaker 1: pioneered is next to nothing.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I'm just asking you without in

637
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: a non leading way, to see how you feel, because

638
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: I agree we know nothing. We know very little. Our

639
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: full capacity of what we know is only measured by itself,

640
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: meaning we have no idea what we don't know. And

641
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: even the ocean, which is a great analogy and the

642
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: cup of water, like the ocean, what five percent of

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Speaker 2: its map to six percent? We don't even know what's

644
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Speaker 2: in the ocean, much less what is in space. And

645
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: I've read certain things. Do you feel like the ocean

646
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: end space? Both could be the conduit too, or either

647
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: it could be the conduit to get whatever needs to

648
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: be here here or Antarctica, Like there are those files

649
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: too that Antarctica is some sort of I hate to

650
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: use the word portal, but I watch movies and that's

651
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: what they say portal. Like, what are your thoughts on that?

652
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: It's really fishy? Why aren't we allowed to go to Antarctica.

653
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we have people that move to Alaska on purpose.

654
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: You'd think there would be some kind of crowd that

655
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: would enjoy you know, unless you're a National geographic voyage,

656
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: you're not making it over there, and that's weird. But

657
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: I definitely agree with you. There's there's got to be

658
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: some conduit for this and reading into those UAP files more,

659
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: they'll redact a lot of stuff. Nowadays it's edited like

660
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: a black image over the text so you can't read it.

661
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: But the really old ones they use a sharpiet and

662
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't get the words perfectly. And I have

663
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: found extra dimensional sharpied out so many times. It makes

664
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: you wonder are they from space or is it a

665
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: whole dimensional thing? Because if it's dimensional, they could be

666
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, right here, right now, just not it's not

667
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: our Earth.

668
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: And how I would explain dimensional to people because they'll

669
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: look at me funny, and I don't have a great

670
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: explanation because I am not in science. However, I would say,

671
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: you know, with the television changed channels, and there's a

672
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: frequency that allows this channel and you can see this,

673
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: there's a slightly different frequency. You push the button it

674
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: allows you to see this in human form that we are,

675
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: this is a certain frequency we're not able to see

676
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: the other frequencies, just like for watching one channel, we

677
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: can't see the other channel, even though it's in the

678
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: exact same place. Like that is my very rudimental, rudimental

679
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: analogy of how possibly we're not even able to see

680
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: the beams that the cell phone that we can't There's

681
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: so much around us that we can't see, even that

682
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: animals can see, and their cones in their eyes are different.

683
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: And so for us to think that we can see

684
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: and know everything, but also for you to look into

685
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: all these files and find words have been blacked out,

686
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: why would they not go and black them out with

687
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: like like the newer version of redacting files and just

688
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: leave the sharp eied versions up.

689
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: It makes you wonder, and it makes me think that

690
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: they didn't plan on the Internet being as big and

691
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: popular as it is. But that was that was a

692
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 1: very good way to explain the dimensions. It's like, if

693
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: if we're in a TV, we can go up, down, left,

694
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: and right on the screen, that's two dimensional. A verdimensional

695
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: would be us, you know, moving all around up, down, left, right,

696
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: anywhere the ground doesn't stop you and then taking that further,

697
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: you need to look at it like an onion. There

698
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: could be something past the three D, which would be

699
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: the fourth and we can't perceive that, so we can't

700
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: explain it. But that's like we if the theory is correct,

701
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: you know where the aliens or whatever they are would be.

702
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: So us being three dimensional, we could say you had

703
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: a two dimensional ant hill if you took water and

704
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: poured it all over their ant hill. To them, it's

705
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: like a biblical flood. They can't even perceive our existence.

706
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: Water just appeared out of nowhere. So for aliens being

707
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: say a dimension above us, they perceive everything we do,

708
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: but we wouldn't even know they're there.

709
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: And I know this whole thing wasn't about aliens, but

710
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm so intrigued by just even the term alien is

711
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: not probably what you and I would use, but I

712
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: think most people would associate that word with what we're

713
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: talking about, so we could continue to define it as that.

714
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: But what do you think is the one piece of

715
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: evidence that you have seen in all of these files

716
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: that proves to you mostly that we're probably not the

717
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: only things that exist. What do you think has been

718
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: redacted or what have you seen you talk about Roswell, like,

719
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 2: what have you seen where you're like, man, if I

720
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: had to bring one piece of evidence into play, it

721
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: be this easily.

722
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: The pyramids and the construction of them. So they're ancient

723
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: compared to the Egypt that we know today, and our

724
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: indigenous populations carved the stuff on stone. But we have

725
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: highways of pyramids across the earth. And aside from that,

726
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: they're all constructed exactly the same. Two of the Great

727
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: Pyramids coordinates line up exactly to the speed of light.

728
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: They're all directly under stars and within half a degree

729
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: of true north. Let alone the precision of actual building

730
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: or moving these multi ton blocks around. You'll see on

731
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: a lot of hieroglyphs they have a frequency table. So

732
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: if you were to put sand on a table and

733
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: play certain frequency, the sand will reorganize and make patterns.

734
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: Now they would put these patterns on hieroglyphics along with

735
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: guy lifting up something very heavy with one arm way

736
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: above his head, and I think that symbolizes seismatic technology

737
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: or matching the frequency of an object to lighten it.

738
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: If you have a didgerido, you can go pick up

739
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: solo cups with it. Just by playing the right note,

740
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: it'll lift the solo cup off the ground and you

741
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: can walk around with it. And I think that the

742
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 1: biggest evidence we have of extra life on Earth would

743
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: be the construction of the Pyramids and how advanced they

744
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: were into this technology of frequencies, the same stuff Tesla

745
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: was obsessed with, yet we didn't even have stone tools.

746
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes no sense.

747
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: Your Amelia Earhart content I was enamored by, and I've

748
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: always been curious and even I would say interested in

749
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: what has happened. But watching what you pulled from, I

750
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: don't know if it's a CIA or FBI website. Pribace

751
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: CIA is international at CIA.

752
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was CIA, but a lot of it came

753
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: from Naval Intelligence because that disappearance happened about ten years

754
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: before the CIA was formed JAZZ so they have better

755
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: record keeping, but most of the good stuff was old

756
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: Navy intelligence website.

757
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: So after reading and most audience probably hasn't seen, what

758
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: yet to say about it? What do you think happened

759
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: to Amelia Earhart and why it.

760
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: Seems really plausible she got captured by the Japanese, whether

761
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: she crashed or didn't. There's a file basically a case

762
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: officer is talking about a message in a bottle that

763
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: was found with a lock of hair. Now what's interesting

764
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: is this is from nineteen thirty nine and they're talking

765
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: about that the DNA tested the hair, which, if you

766
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: do a quick google, didn't come out until the eighties,

767
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: so they had that technology before, which is really odd

768
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: to me. But this case officer goes to the island

769
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: to investigate, and everybody's very welcoming, very nice, and he

770
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: started asking about the boat it's called the Nile Atoll

771
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: that she was allegedly a prisoner on, and they tortured

772
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: and interrogated him for like two days before letting him go.

773
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: And that's odd. You know, the government was friendly, the

774
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: citizens were friendly. He asked a question about a boat,

775
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: and you know, they backed his head and took him

776
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: off to some prisons. It raises some flags and then

777
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: you find stuff about, you know, letters from congressmen asking

778
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: intelligence was she a spy? But the good one I

779
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: uncovered was she wrote to the president asking for some

780
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: details about her top secret world flight. And this was

781
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: about two years before she had announced the flight, so

782
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: they could have been talking about the plans and the

783
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: whole flight was a secret for the time being, or

784
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: there was an ulterior motive with the actual flight, but

785
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: it's it's fishy. And then them confirming the DNA tested

786
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: it pretty much proves the theory. The only missing pieces.

787
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: Did they really have that technology in the forties or

788
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: what's the deal there?

789
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: Do you feel like she was a spy?

790
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: It seems plausible. And that's one thing the CIA does

791
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: is they're famous for recruiting people that already have covers.

792
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look into some of these intelligence

793
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: people or even people that have been suspected of, you know,

794
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: being a spy, a lot of them are Microsoft executive

795
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: or sometimes actors, people that are constantly traveling over world

796
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,479
Speaker 1: orders to the Middle East or wherever is a point

797
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: of interest. Because they already have a cover, they can

798
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: get picked up. The CIA will bankroll a nice light

799
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: for them, and all they do is a little bit

800
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: of spying on their business trip. Yeah, I'd say she

801
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: probably was.

802
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: So based on the information that I've heard from you,

803
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: if I were going to draw a conclusion, and you

804
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: can tell me if your conclusion is the same, that

805
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: her flight where she went missing was planned well before

806
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 2: the public knew about it. It was planned for a reason.

807
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: She was intelligence and she ended up. And I haven't

808
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: heard you say this. Do you think that when they

809
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: if and when that they captured her, they knew she

810
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: was a spy or they found out she was a

811
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: spy and that is why they kept her.

812
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. I'm not sure. I would

813
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: assume that she was probably suspected to be a spy

814
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: because she was flying over you know, Japanese airspace right

815
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: before the war. I'm sure they figured it out. We

816
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: never saw her again.

817
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: Are any pictures of like the side of her head

818
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: or anything that they are suspicious where people are like, hey,

819
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: that might be her.

820
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: So there's one picture and it's there's no way to

821
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: know for sure. It's a picture of a Japanese dock

822
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 1: with that both the Nile Atoll, and there's a white

823
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: woman and a white guy. So her and her navigator

824
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: Fred both went missing, and from the back the pictures

825
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: looked like them. I went on the Japanese Internet and

826
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: tried to date the photo and I was unable to.

827
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: But there are some articles talking about this photo and

828
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: everybody is pretty sure it was taken two years before

829
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: her flight. So it's a big Maybe there's no for

830
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: sures there and I'd hate to just say yes without

831
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: anything concrete.

832
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 7: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

833
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 7: Bobby Cast.

834
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 2: I would like to talk about the Gateway process meditation

835
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: and the CIA. First. Would you do a bit of

836
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: explaining just fundamentally on what that is.

837
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Gateway process is kind of similar to

838
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: that seismic technology that we were talking about earlier, but

839
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: it's more so in frequency. They would play one frequency

840
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: in one ear one frequency in the other, so it's

841
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: two differing sounds. But what they do is they cause

842
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: the electrical impulses of each hemisphere of the brain to

843
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: sync up at exactly the same time, and it puts

844
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: your mind in this weird state. It's famous for giving

845
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: people out of body experiences, and the CIA dumped billions

846
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: of dollars into this from about the seventies until now.

847
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: I guess they're still doing it trying to figure out

848
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: what these out of body experiences are and if they

849
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: have application for intelligence. After a lot of research and money,

850
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: they did figure out that people are able to close

851
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: their eyes and see things when they're not there with accuracy.

852
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: That's pretty scary. They had Stanford, Yale, all of the

853
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: big universities researching this as well as their own teams,

854
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: and everybody came to the same conclusion that it works,

855
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: and nobody really understands why it works.

856
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: To do what exactly see something far away at the

857
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: same time, see something in the future, see something in

858
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: the past.

859
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it wouldn't really be past their future to

860
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: my knowledge, it would more so be location. So there's

861
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Speaker 1: a pretty famous one where a guy was supposed to

862
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Speaker 1: remote view a military base across the United States and

863
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: he was talking about some basement sub level with files

864
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: and boxes and all this stuff that didn't exist. But

865
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Speaker 1: they said, hey, you're wrong, we'll call the check anyways,

866
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Speaker 1: and it turned out that he had remote view to

867
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Speaker 1: top secret sub level of the base that was on

868
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Speaker 1: a need to know basis, so nobody knew it was

869
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Speaker 1: there except for him. And it's things like that they

870
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: would use it in any way for intelligence. Hey we

871
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: heard there's hostages in Lebanon, can you check. That's a

872
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: pretty famous case where a remote viewer confirmed there was hostages.

873
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: And that's really when it started picking up because the

874
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Speaker 1: intelligence community was crediting this guy for saving these people.

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Speaker 2: Have you done any meditation like this, Yeah, I have.

876
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Speaker 1: I've been doing the Gateway process for probably five or

877
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Speaker 1: six months. One of my rich buddies in Los Angeles,

878
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: he was crediting this to his success. He said it

879
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: made his intuition as sharp as a pitchfork, and every

880
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: business decision he made was right. So he gave me

881
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: his tapes, had me try them, and I had a

882
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: weird out of body experience. It's a hard thing to describe,

883
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: but in the best layman's terms, whether it was my

884
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: imagination or not, I had this being come up to

885
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: me and it said, my purpose in life is to

886
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: share what I've learned about all of these things, and

887
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: you know, to put my phone in front of my

888
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: face and talk about it. And you know, my account

889
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: blew up. I'd never posted online before, I'd never done

890
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: anything like it. I was already kind of nagged to

891
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: post about the documents because I thought it would be cool.

892
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: So it was like another layer of confirmation, and in

893
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: my account blew up. It was about two months old

894
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: and I hit one hundred thousand followers, which seems to

895
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: be pretty good. I'm new to the whole thing, but

896
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Speaker 1: I don't know how easy that would be to replicate?

897
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: So how would I listen to these tapes?

898
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: So you can find them online for free. There's a

899
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: place called them in Row Institute. They actually offer this

900
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: as a whole package training where you go there for

901
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: a week and they'll teach you how to do this.

902
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: They're the inventors of the Gateway tapes and it's it

903
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: seems to be a pretty cool program. But if you

904
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: can't afford all the money they you can find them

905
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: for free online. You have to search a little far

906
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: and wide, but they're on things like YouTube, Breddit. They

907
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: get taken off the internet a lot, so you just

908
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: have to look around and maybe jump sources a few

909
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: times a week because they'll get taken down and put

910
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: back up a few times a day.

911
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: And you believe that, even within yourself, you believe that

912
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: a lot of folks believe this is the key to

913
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: unlocking some part of our brain. This the Gateway process meditation,

914
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: and that is why they're still experimenting trying to figure

915
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: out why it doesn't exactly what it does.

916
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 1: I think so and you can it does things that

917
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: it's very hard to word. We don't have English to describe,

918
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: but on the flip side, we have physical evidence of

919
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: how it affects your brain. Buddhists a lot of people

920
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: in religion that are very heavy on meditai. They have

921
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: tons of gray matter in their brain compared to the

922
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: normal people, and it allows them to reach these higher

923
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: states of consciousness through meditation and prevents Alzheimer's, which is

924
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: pretty odd. People that do the Gateway program for seven

925
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: days have a twenty five percent increase in gray matter,

926
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: to a point where on the Minrue Institute website it

927
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: cites these studies and says it will hurt your head

928
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: if you do it too fast. It causes so much

929
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: physical change it gives you headaches. It doesn't feel good

930
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: at first, but it definitely is doing something in terms

931
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: of strengthening the brain, just as seeing how much gray

932
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: matter people that do this kind of meditation have versus

933
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: people that never meditate in their lives.

934
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Speaker 2: What kind of time allotment per day would you need.

935
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: Let's say you were me and you were going to

936
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Speaker 2: go to the Monroe Institute and pay whatever amount of money, Like,

937
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: is it eight hours a day? Is it fifteen minutes

938
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Speaker 2: a day? And it builds up? How does that work?

939
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Speaker 1: So there's multiple tapes. I would just one to night.

940
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: That's how I did it all the way through, and

941
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: each tapes thirty to forty five minutes, and you close

942
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: your eyes, you put on the headphones, get a nice

943
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: company dark room, and sometimes it feels like you're there

944
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: for four hours, and sometimes it's like five minutes goes

945
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: by and you're already done. But what you'll notice is

946
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: you get through the first you know, four or five tapes,

947
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: and you don't really feel like you got anywhere. It's

948
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: not enough is really happening. And then suddenly it's like

949
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: a switch just flicks on in your brain and it

950
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: takes you to this whole new place. And whether it's

951
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: your imagination or not will be a great argument forever.

952
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: But man, the things you'll see and here is I've

953
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: never thought stuff like that before. And it'll tell you

954
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: some crazy stuff.

955
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: And you're telling me, there's an instance at least that

956
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: has been documented or not. We don't know where they

957
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: use this technique, and through meditation, someone identified if there

958
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: were hostages in another country.

959
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: It's happened multiple times, so you could read a lot

960
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: of the files. It's called Project Sunstreak, but it has

961
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: you know photo examples of here. They would put a

962
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 1: photo in an envelope. This is when they were first

963
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: testing it out. So they would be a photo of

964
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: a tree or somebody's house. They would seal it up

965
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: in an envelope and tell somebody look inside the envelope

966
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: and tell me what's in there. So the guy would

967
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: go do his meditation and come out with a drawing

968
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: that would be accurate down to the materials that the

969
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: house used. And there's probably forty instances just in this

970
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: one file, and it shows the drawing next to the photo,

971
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: and it's it's impeccable. How accurate this is. I mean,

972
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: it's it's almost funny to think about, because the government

973
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: is telling someone a go close your eyes and tell

974
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: me if there's hostages in Lebanon, or go draw this house.

975
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: And that doesn't that seems like something out of a

976
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: science fiction novel. But it's it's it's almost lappable, how

977
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: out there it is. It's very very interesting if and

978
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: I wonder why nobody covers it.

979
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, if for some reason you get your old account back,

980
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: if it is not permanently banned, we will put in

981
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: the notes and we will we're going to preface all

982
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: this anyway with some lead in. We will make sure

983
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: that your old account is shared, communicated, make sure everybody

984
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 2: knows where to go. Otherwise, your new TikTok is Ethan

985
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: Frice E T H A N F R I C right.

986
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: Is that correct?

987
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: That's correct? And we have hashtag three Ethan going on

988
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: right now. Videoone wants to go through something in there,

989
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure it would help it.

990
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, free freaking Ethan's when I say I can't believe it.

991
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: I can't. I saw you posting, but I saw a

992
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: lot of people posting footage of pre where everybody was

993
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 2: freaking out because nobody was actually stopping what was happening.

994
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that they took your account down because I

995
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: have seen it now in a few places where it's

996
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: raw footage of people going hey, hey, hey, and nobody's

997
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: paying attention to it.

998
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: It's bizarre. I mean, I'm hoping it was banned by mistake.

999
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: I've submitted probably sixty of and I get an automated

1000
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: response back that says you know your account won't come back.

1001
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: We won't respond again. But I keep getting that email,

1002
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: so I'm hoping the more times I send it, some

1003
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: of a person will see it and I can get

1004
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: my account back. But I agree, I've seen it all

1005
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: over the internet. I don't know why me posting it

1006
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: was such a problem, but my accounts a little bit controversial,

1007
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: so it doesn't surprise me. It's gone. It's just a

1008
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: little bit shocking.

1009
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: I want to ask you one more question, and this

1010
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: I didn't tell you I was going to ask you

1011
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: about this, but the Challenger explosion. I believe it's a

1012
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: Challenger explosion. This to me is wild. Now you can

1013
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: set it up better than I can, but it seems like,

1014
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: according to what I've heard you say, there are basically

1015
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: older doppel ganger versions of the people who died that

1016
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: exist today. How real is this? Do you feel? And

1017
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: if you don't mind, just reset it up for my listeners,

1018
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: because I was trying to explain this to friends and

1019
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 2: they were like, you're crazy. I'm like maybe, or maybe

1020
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm just not telling the story right.

1021
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's that's a really interesting topic. I believe

1022
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: those four or five astronauts on board, but there, yes,

1023
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: there are older doctor Gosh, I can't talk to my

1024
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: bad There are older doppelganger versions of these people with

1025
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: the same exact names, spelling, and birthday, which I looked

1026
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: into it and the only other instance I could find

1027
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: of adoppelganger with the same name, spelling and birthday one

1028
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: had happened in the last hundred years, aside from these

1029
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: three astronauts or maybe four. So what's interesting is you?

1030
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you can just google these astronauts. Google one lady,

1031
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: then google the other one professor at Yale for astrophysics.

1032
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: It lines up perfectly with the career and everything. And

1033
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,959
Speaker 1: you start looking closer and she'll do a little wave

1034
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: with their pinky out and then you look at the

1035
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: older version doing the same wave, and that could be anything.

1036
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: But then the next guy has a weird crooked tooth,

1037
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: so does the old gentleman. Just one crooked tooth. One

1038
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: of them has a weird scar on their ear, and

1039
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: it's the same. And again it's nothing you can prove,

1040
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: but it's it's so interesting. I mean, statistically that would

1041
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: be called impossible. I can say that. I don't know

1042
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: if I can draw an opinion without enough concrete fact.

1043
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: And it's interesting. So a guy on TikTok had actually

1044
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: interviewed one of the female astronauts or he just went

1045
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: up and started asking her, hey, why do you look

1046
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: like this person? Is there any relation? And on video

1047
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: she breaks down almost crying, and she runs away, And

1048
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: that's weird. You know, it's nothing you can draw concrete

1049
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: conclusions on. That's almost a little bit dangerous to do.

1050
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: But there's something there, and it's a little fishy and

1051
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: statistically impossible. I mean, it's almost how much coincidence before?

1052
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: It's not a coincidence anymore.

1053
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 2: Also, why wouldn't they change their name? Because I'm with you,

1054
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: it is such a coincidence and if you were trying

1055
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: to hide it, that's hiding so much on plain sight

1056
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: that you're caught. But why would they not change their name?

1057
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: Because I saw the pictures of them old and young?

1058
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: But then I think, well, is that an AI photo

1059
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: that they've just made older? Because again I'm only taking

1060
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: the information from social media, as are you, and you're

1061
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: not drawing any conclusion as well, except saying, wow, if

1062
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: this is true, this is wild. Do we know that

1063
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: those pictures are really them older and not some AI

1064
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: version that someone's made.

1065
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So most of the photos I used in that

1066
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: video I pulled from their personal LinkedIn accounts. What's funny

1067
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: is I believe his name is Dick Scobie. He goes

1068
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: by Richard Scobie. Now he's now the CEO of cowsand Trees.

1069
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: Their logo is a crashing rocket ship.

1070
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy.

1071
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: You can't make it up.

1072
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: His account is at Ethan Frice Ethan. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry you accounts taken down. I will go and

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Speaker 2: follow your new account. I'm a big fan. I watch

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Speaker 2: all your videos and thanks for giving me a little

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Speaker 2: bit of time today.

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Speaker 1: Much appreciated, Bobby. Appreciate you having me on that. This

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Speaker 1: was a first for me. I had a blast, So

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: All right, buddy, see you later.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for listening to a Bobby cast production.