WEBVTT - A Terrible Waste

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm

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<v Speaker 1>and Mild from airin Manky listener discretion advised Heinrich the sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen year old King of Germany and son of

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Roman Emperor Frederic the f Barbosa, sat by a

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<v Speaker 1>window next to Conrad of Wittelsbach, the Archbishop of Mainz.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the evening of July twenty fifth, eleven eighty four,

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<v Speaker 1>and the air between the two men was tense. By

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<v Speaker 1>this point, Heinrich and the archbishop had run out of

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<v Speaker 1>things to say to one another. Earlier, when they had

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<v Speaker 1>first sat down, the conversation had flowed freely. Heinrich had

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<v Speaker 1>come to air Fort to broker an agreement between the

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<v Speaker 1>archbishop and the Landgrave Ludwig the third of Thuringia. The

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<v Speaker 1>two of them had some heated disputes over land right

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<v Speaker 1>in air Fort, but by all accounts, each had come

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<v Speaker 1>to the negotiations willingly and with high hopes for a

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<v Speaker 1>quick resolution. Heinrich, the King of Germany, had assembled a Hoftag,

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<v Speaker 1>an unofficial meeting attended by his court as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the local nobility and clergy, to settle the matter once

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<v Speaker 1>and for all.

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<v Speaker 2>But by this.

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<v Speaker 3>Point, however, Heinrich and the Archbishop were not talking about land,

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<v Speaker 3>titles or anything at all. The meeting had long since crumbled,

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<v Speaker 3>so too, quite literally had the building around them, save

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<v Speaker 3>for the window alcove where the two men had been sitting. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Heinrich and the Archbishop awaited rescue in horrified silence, holding

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<v Speaker 3>on for dear life after being forced to watch as

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<v Speaker 3>their fellow nobles floundered and drowned below them in a

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<v Speaker 3>roiling pit of mud, debris, and human waste. I'm Dana Schwartz,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is noble blood. The air Fort Latrine disaster,

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<v Speaker 3>as it would come to be called, is remembered as

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<v Speaker 3>one of medieval history's most disgusting calamities. It was what

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<v Speaker 3>it sounds like, a building collapsed into its underground latrine

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<v Speaker 3>cesspot killing, injuring, or traumatizing the attendees of Heinrich the

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<v Speaker 3>si Hulftug. Its effects, both on the lines of noble

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<v Speaker 3>succession and on local folklore, would ripple out for generations.

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<v Speaker 3>In order to understand how this tragic and nauseating accident occurred,

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<v Speaker 3>we must first understand one of the most significant architectural

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<v Speaker 3>challenges facing any media city that of dealing with human waste.

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<v Speaker 3>Many people believe that the Middle Ages were a sort

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<v Speaker 3>of free for all of waste disposal. While it was

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<v Speaker 3>certainly true that many medieval people had to dispose of

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<v Speaker 3>their waste by say, pouring it out of their windows

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<v Speaker 3>or into the streets, in many places that was actually

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<v Speaker 3>illegal and could carry heavy fines.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 3>Medieval people, and in particular medieval municipal authorities, devoted a

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<v Speaker 3>great deal of attention to waste management. People in the

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<v Speaker 3>Middle Ages dealt with their waste in a number of

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<v Speaker 3>different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>The way you might be.

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<v Speaker 3>Most familiar with is the chamber pot or other kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of portable toilets, But those, of course would have left

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<v Speaker 3>you with the problem of then disposing of the waste

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<v Speaker 3>from the chamber pots. Luckily, at least in some places,

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<v Speaker 3>there was another option, a latrine. In this period, a

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<v Speaker 3>latrine would have consisted, usually of a plank of wood

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<v Speaker 3>over a hole in the ground or in the floor

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<v Speaker 3>of a building, usually some sort of outhouse, which would

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<v Speaker 3>let out into something such as a cesspit, a stream,

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<v Speaker 3>a ditch, a moat, or a drain. Cesspits were often

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<v Speaker 3>feats of engineering. While they were sometimes just big holes

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<v Speaker 3>in the ground, many of them were reinforced with wood

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<v Speaker 3>or less often stone to prevent groundwater pollution. One latrine

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<v Speaker 3>would often be shared by all of the inhabitants of

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<v Speaker 3>a given plot of land, although larger multihole latrines were

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes used in monasteries, and some cities, like London even

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<v Speaker 3>had public necessary houses with multiple latrine holes that opened

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<v Speaker 3>up into a single cesspit. As you might expect, wealthier

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<v Speaker 3>people tended to have more elaborately constructed latrines. This applied

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<v Speaker 3>to the above ground parts as well, most notably with

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<v Speaker 3>the construction of latrines inside the home. If you've ever

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<v Speaker 3>visited an old castle, for example, you might have seen

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<v Speaker 3>a little part jutting out from the wall on the

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<v Speaker 3>outside that's called a garterobe, and it was basically a

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<v Speaker 3>medieval toilet. Named after storage closets where valuables or linens

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<v Speaker 3>would be kept. These would be small chambers that offered

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<v Speaker 3>the user some privacy. Sometimes these would open up directly

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<v Speaker 3>to the outside, emptying into a moat or some other

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<v Speaker 3>drainage system, but often they were connected to a latrine

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<v Speaker 3>that led out into a cesspit. These systems could be impressive,

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<v Speaker 3>but of course they were not without their challenges. A

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<v Speaker 3>cesspit needed proper drainage. Drainage issue could result in things

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<v Speaker 3>like contaminated groundwater, but also, and perhaps more urgently, damage

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<v Speaker 3>to the structure of the latrine and any overlying buildings themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Rotting was a major concern for latrines reinforced with wood. Often,

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<v Speaker 3>cesspits were emptied by hand on an annual or semi

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<v Speaker 3>annual basis, or otherwise, the waste continually boarded up until

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<v Speaker 3>a new latrine had to be opened, but some cesspits

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<v Speaker 3>had more advanced systems of drainage. One solution for the

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<v Speaker 3>drainage problem was the installation of channel drains, which utilized

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<v Speaker 3>gravity to let waste out from the cesspit into, say,

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<v Speaker 3>a flowing river. These could work marvelously well, but like

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<v Speaker 3>modern plumbing systems, they were also susceptible to clogs or

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<v Speaker 3>structural damage, and, as the attendees of that fateful hoftag

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<v Speaker 3>in air Fort would find out, when channel drain systems

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<v Speaker 3>failed to work properly, wooden boards began to rot and

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<v Speaker 3>nobody took steps to remedy the.

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<v Speaker 2>Issue, disaster would ensue.

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<v Speaker 3>Twelfth century Germany consisted of a constellation of duchies, counties,

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<v Speaker 3>and principalities, all loosely aligned under the authority of the

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<v Speaker 3>Holy Roman Empire, with each duke, count and prince largely

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<v Speaker 3>sovereign over his own territory. Political life was often tense,

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<v Speaker 3>as ruling nobles constantly sought to increase their power. Borders

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<v Speaker 3>frequently expanded and contracted as wars, shifting alliances, and political

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<v Speaker 3>machinations saw land pass back and forth between nobles. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>these were rarely clean or easy transfers of jurisdiction. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't uncommon for two or more parties to claim sovereignty

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<v Speaker 3>over the same piece of land at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>This was the case for Ludwig the Third, the Landgrave,

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<v Speaker 3>a German rank of nobility roughly equivalent to account of Thuringia,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Archbishop of Mainz Conrad of Wittelsbach. Keep in

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<v Speaker 3>mind that during this period, high ranking clergy like bishops,

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<v Speaker 3>archbishops and cardinals often exercised political as well as religious

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<v Speaker 3>power in their respective domains. In this case, Conrad was

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<v Speaker 3>both the archbishop and the Elector of Mainz, a title

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<v Speaker 3>akin to prince, meaning he both oversaw his own territory

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<v Speaker 3>and got to play a role in electing the Holy

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<v Speaker 3>Roman Emperor. The territories of Ludwig's county and Conrad's archbishopric

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<v Speaker 3>abutted each other. In fact, they sort of overlapped, with

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<v Speaker 3>each man claiming his land to be perhaps slightly larger

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<v Speaker 3>than it was. Their territories had not always been quite

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<v Speaker 3>so disputed, but around eleven seventy nine, the Duke of

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<v Speaker 3>Saxony and Bavaria, Heinrich the Lion, was stripped of his

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<v Speaker 3>holdings by the Holy Roman Emperor, Frederick the I Barbosa.

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<v Speaker 2>This created a power.

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<v Speaker 3>Vacuum that resulted in an even more tenuous, contested web

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<v Speaker 3>of territories than had existed before. By eleven eighty four,

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<v Speaker 3>five years later, Ludwig and the archbishop had developed a

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<v Speaker 3>land dispute over the city of air Fort that had

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<v Speaker 3>become so heated it drew the attention of the Holy

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<v Speaker 3>Roman Emperor. But we don't know much of the details

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<v Speaker 3>of how oh this contentious situation developed. Specifically, Some sources

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<v Speaker 3>point to the archbishop's construction of a fortified castle in

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<v Speaker 3>or near the city around eleven eighty, but it's unclear

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<v Speaker 3>whether that was in fact the inciting incident or simply

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<v Speaker 3>a move made as part of a pre existing conflict.

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<v Speaker 3>In any case, the dispute boiled down to an argument

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<v Speaker 3>over whether the clergy or the lay nobility should have

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<v Speaker 3>control over air Fort. This was a pressing issue that

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<v Speaker 3>touched not only on the daily lives of the people

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<v Speaker 3>living in the city, but also on bigger debates over

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<v Speaker 3>the rights of religious versus secular powers that had overtaken

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<v Speaker 3>Europe in the wake of the Investiture controversy and the

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<v Speaker 3>wars of the Guelphs and Ghibelin that followed. After some

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<v Speaker 3>four years of conflict over this land, the Holy Roman

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<v Speaker 3>Emperor had had enough. He sent his son Heinrich the sixth,

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<v Speaker 3>the King of Germany, to mediate the matter. In the

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<v Speaker 3>summer of eleven eighty four, Heinrich traveled to Airport and

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<v Speaker 3>called a hoftag on July twenty fifth, where he would

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<v Speaker 3>mediate a piece between Ludwig and the archbishop. The meeting

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<v Speaker 3>drew an audience of nobles and high ranking clergy from

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<v Speaker 3>all around the area, each of whom sought both to

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<v Speaker 3>help mediate the meeting and possibly to act in their

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<v Speaker 3>best interests sources disagree over whether the Hoftag was held

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<v Speaker 3>at the cathedral, provosts building or the bishop's residence, but

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<v Speaker 3>we do know that it was nearby the air Fort's cathedral,

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<v Speaker 3>and that the meeting took place on the second floor

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<v Speaker 3>of whatever building it was in. Over sixty people some

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<v Speaker 3>sources say over one hundred crowded the meeting room as

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<v Speaker 3>the proceedings began. We know little about how the meeting went.

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<v Speaker 3>It's possible the nobles shouted over each other, jocking to

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<v Speaker 3>get a word in. Maybe it was a friendly gathering,

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<v Speaker 3>with everyone acting in good faith, trying to maintain peace

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<v Speaker 3>and reach a resolution. Maybe it was only getting started

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<v Speaker 3>and clergy and nobles were still asking after each other's

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<v Speaker 3>families and children. We do know that at one point

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<v Speaker 3>King Heinrich and the archbishop walked over to a window

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<v Speaker 3>to speak privately. Then all of a sudden, a rumble

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<v Speaker 3>tore through the building. The walls began to shake, and

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<v Speaker 3>before the meeting's attendees even realized what was happening, the

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<v Speaker 3>floor collapsed beneath them. In his book of German Legends,

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<v Speaker 3>the nineteenth century German folklorist Ludwig Bechstein recounted the story

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<v Speaker 3>of quote the Count's proverb. His story centered on a

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<v Speaker 3>noble Count Heinrich, the seventh of Schwarzburg. As Bechstein told it,

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<v Speaker 3>Count Heinrich had a nasty habit. Whenever there was something

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't want to do or didn't think he could do,

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<v Speaker 3>he would say, in a huff, quote, if I did that,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd have to drown.

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<v Speaker 2>In the privy.

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<v Speaker 3>You can probably see where this story is going. Bechstein's

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<v Speaker 3>tale was a fictionalized account of the air Fort Latrine disaster,

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<v Speaker 3>which did actually happen. He altered some of the historical details.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Count Heinrich the first who attended, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>not the seventh, but the basic contours of the story remained,

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<v Speaker 3>with an ironic twist in the form of his Heinrich's

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<v Speaker 3>tragically prescient catchphrase in both the story and real life.

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<v Speaker 3>The second floor of the building collapsed, the force of

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<v Speaker 3>which collapsed the first floor, and everyone save for King

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<v Speaker 3>Heinrich and Archbishop Conrad, fell into the cesspit below. A

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<v Speaker 3>few survived the fall, but most did not. In reality,

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<v Speaker 3>we have very few contemporary sources about the actual collapse,

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<v Speaker 3>and what we do have doesn't offer much. In the

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<v Speaker 3>way of details on how the collapse happened. Later writers

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<v Speaker 3>supposed that the beams supporting the second floor where the

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<v Speaker 3>hoftag were held, had been rotting for some time, and

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<v Speaker 3>the weight of so many people caused it to collapse.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we don't know which building this was exactly, it's

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<v Speaker 3>hard for us to know whether a latrine contributed to

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<v Speaker 3>that rotting. If that were the case, it would have

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<v Speaker 3>had to have been a wood reinforced latrine that reached

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<v Speaker 3>the second floor. It's also possible that the color collapse

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<v Speaker 3>was unrelated and the cesspit was simply an unfortunate landing

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<v Speaker 3>place for the collapsing building. Either way, the cesspit and

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<v Speaker 3>its draining system seems to have played an essential role

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<v Speaker 3>in the tragic way the disaster played out. Some sources

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<v Speaker 3>say that the building's cesspit had a channel drain system

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<v Speaker 3>which would have emptied out into the nearby Gera River.

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<v Speaker 3>This would have meant that when everything collapsed, the sudden

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<v Speaker 3>inflow of materials and bodies would have forced the entire

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<v Speaker 3>system to flow wildly and uncontrollably out to the river.

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<v Speaker 3>The result was a whirling pit of death. Most estimates

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<v Speaker 3>say about sixty of the meeting's attendees died as a.

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<v Speaker 2>Result of the collapse.

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<v Speaker 3>Some died from the fall, others were crushed by debris,

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<v Speaker 3>and others were I'm sorry, drowned in the sewage or

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<v Speaker 3>asphyxiated in its toxic fumes. The Chronicle of Saint Peter's

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<v Speaker 3>in Airport, which began to be compiled about twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>years after the fact in twelve eight, listed some of

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<v Speaker 3>the noblemen who died in the collapse. Count Friedrich the

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<v Speaker 3>first of Aubenberg, Count Heinrich, the first of Schwarzburg, Count

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<v Speaker 3>Gozmar the third of ziegenhein Gozmar's brother in law, Bougrave

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<v Speaker 3>Friedrich the first of Kirsberg, Count Berkhard of Vartberg, and

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<v Speaker 3>Barringer von Wellington, among other quote lesser nobles whom the

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<v Speaker 3>chronicler felt were not necessary to record. Landgrave Ludwig, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the main two parties involved in the dispute that

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<v Speaker 3>was a reason for all of this, fell into the sewage,

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<v Speaker 3>but luckily was rescued and survived seemingly with no major injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>King Heinrich and the Archbishop had to cling to the

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<v Speaker 3>window as they awaited rescue, but they also eventually escaped unharmed.

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<v Speaker 3>Disgusted and shell shocked, King Heinrich departed from air Fort

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<v Speaker 3>with his retinue almost immediately, never to return. In addition

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<v Speaker 3>to its relatively quick entrance into the annals of local folklore,

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<v Speaker 3>the air Fort latrine disaster impacted the lines of succession

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<v Speaker 3>of much of the local nobility, as estates passed to sons, brothers,

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<v Speaker 3>and even daughters of the deceased. As for the dispute

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<v Speaker 3>between Landgrave Ludwig and Archbishop Conrad that remains unsolved.

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<v Speaker 2>To this day.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the very gross story of the Airport latrine disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>But keep listening after a brief sponsor break to hear

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<v Speaker 3>about another interesting thing that happened in a pit in

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<v Speaker 3>air Fort. If I had a gold ingot for every

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<v Speaker 3>time something noteworthy happened in a pit in air Fort,

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<v Speaker 3>well i'd have two gold ingots. Actually, in fact, in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety eight, archaeologists excavated fourteen gold ingots, among other treasures,

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<v Speaker 3>hidden in the wall of a medieval cellar entry under

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<v Speaker 3>the Michael Estrass, a small street in Airport where the

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<v Speaker 3>structure of a medieval synagogue had been discovered during excavations

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<v Speaker 3>a few years prior. It was an extraordinary discovery. In

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<v Speaker 3>addition to the gold ingots, there were over three thousand

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<v Speaker 3>Tornassel silver coins, a kind of coin commonly used in

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<v Speaker 3>the Middle Ages and early modern periods, instituting the largest

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<v Speaker 3>extant collection of these kind of coins in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>There were also seven hundred works of goldsmithing dating to

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<v Speaker 3>the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries. There was silver tableware, gilded

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<v Speaker 3>goblets from the early fourteenth century, garment applicats and belt adornments,

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<v Speaker 3>eight brooches with inlaid stones, and eight rings. The most

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<v Speaker 3>magnificent of the rings, and the most telling about the

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<v Speaker 3>cash and its history, was an Ashkenazi Jewish wedding ring,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the very few to survive from the fourteenth

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<v Speaker 3>century and one of the very few to be found

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<v Speaker 3>in Germany. The ring was struck in gold without any stones,

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<v Speaker 3>as was tradition, and featured an intricate engraving of a

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<v Speaker 3>Gothic tower and above it the Hebrew phrase mazeltov, meaning

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<v Speaker 3>good fate or good fortune, a phrase of congratulations traditionally

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<v Speaker 3>offered at significant life events like weddings. It is this

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<v Speaker 3>ring which seems to have allowed scholars to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>where this mass of treasure came from and begin to

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<v Speaker 3>guess at who might have hidden it. In thirteen forty nine,

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<v Speaker 3>as the Black Death tore throughout Europe, many communities found

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<v Speaker 3>a convenient scapegoat in Jewish people, blaming them for causing

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<v Speaker 3>the pandemic or believing that they facilitated its spread. There

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<v Speaker 3>are many reasons why these theories developed, but the most

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<v Speaker 3>significant impact was the widespread murders and exiles of European

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<v Speaker 3>Jewish communities. In March thirteen forty nine, the city of

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<v Speaker 3>air Fort did just that in what came to be

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<v Speaker 3>known as the air Fort Massacre. Between March twenty first

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty second, mob's life lynched anywhere from one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>to three thousand Jewish people throughout the city. As the

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<v Speaker 3>violence erupted, many members of the Jewish community chose to

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<v Speaker 3>set fire to their homes and possessions, choosing death over

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<v Speaker 3>the violence of the mob. Others chose to hide their possessions,

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<v Speaker 3>potentially hoping that perhaps they could escape and come back

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<v Speaker 3>for them later. It is believed that one of them,

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<v Speaker 3>potentially a money changer or merchant named Kalmen via Hid

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<v Speaker 3>his treasure before he was killed, either hoping that he

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<v Speaker 3>would survive the mob and be able to retrieve it,

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<v Speaker 3>or knowing that his murderers would not be able to

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<v Speaker 3>profit from his death. Following the massacre, the remaining members

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<v Speaker 3>of the Jewish community were exiled from the city. They

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<v Speaker 3>would return a few years later and re establish a

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<v Speaker 3>new community in the city before being exiled again in

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen fifty eight eight. The hidden treasure, however, remained in airport,

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<v Speaker 3>untouched and intact for over six hundred years. Today, it

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<v Speaker 3>remains on permanent display at the restored old Synagogue, just

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<v Speaker 3>steps from where it was found. Noble Blood is a

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<v Speaker 3>production of iHeart Radio and Grim and Mild from Aaron Mankey.

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<v Speaker 3>Noble Blood is hosted by me Dana Schwartz, with additional

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<v Speaker 3>writing and research by Hannah Johnston, Hannaswick, Courtney Sender, Amy

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<v Speaker 3>Hit and Julia Milaney. The show is edited and produced

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<v Speaker 3>by Jesse Funk, with supervising producerrima il KLi and executive

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