WEBVTT - #537- NAV 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.280 You want SAPIs your boy Nave check me out on 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:03.680 Bootleg keV podcast. 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:06.440 Ay before we start the episode, we're gonna remind everybody, man, 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.760 we got one of the biggest radio shows in the country, 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.680 syndicated in almost one hundred cities all over. Shout out 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:15.720 to iHeartRadio. All right, some of the latest cities that 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:17.680 we've been able to add. Man, want to give a 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.520 shout out to ninety three point nine the Beat in Honolulu. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.640 That's right, Hawaii, We over there going crazy. I also 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:25.520 want to give a shout out Hot ninety eight three 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.560 and Tucson. Shout out to Tucson going crazy. 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We got the homie Nab in the building, 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.480 So welcome man. Good to see you, buddy. Yeah, we're 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.640 just talking about wrestling. H You were there when John 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.800 Cena did the heel turn in Toronto? 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:16.240 Yeah? 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:17.679 What was that like? In person? 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.160 It was fire because I could see the angle when 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.920 he was hugging Cody Rose and his face changed. I 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.959 could see that from where I was sitting. Yeah, his 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:28.880 face was like like if I was facing the other way. 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:30.520 I was like the rock had a spell on him. Yeah. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.480 I got to see like how it looked on TV. Yeah, 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:33.440 it was a crazy experience. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:34.840 Yea, I had to it was Are you like a 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.920 wrestling fan or were you? Just say it was in Toronto. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.640 Growing up way more than now with the you guys. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.880 But my friends who I played video games with, like 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.080 the WW. They got me back into. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.759 It's a great game. It wasn't tap like a theme 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.840 song for a pay per view. Yeah yeah, I remember 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.920 tap back yo, y'all. X O boys just got the 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:55.280 WW sewed up cash Man. Cash got the biggest fan. 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.640 He is the biggest fan. I think the Weekend has 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.760 had like the theme song for many like six years 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:04.080 straight or something. Crazy. Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, No shout 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:05.800 outs to cash Man. He's and and he looks good too. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:07.440 He's like he gotta be on keto or something. What's 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:08.440 going on with cash But he looked good. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:09.640 I'm trying on the same program. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:10.880 Last time I saw him, I was like, you're not 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:12.520 on a Osempic. He's like, nah, bro, this is all 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.959 like I'm working out and I'm eating right. It's true. Nah, 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.200 It's it's fire. How you feel, man, you got the 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.960 new body of workout. How's it feel feel relieved? You know? 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:21.760 Yeah, I feel like I gave my Day One fans 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:23.000 everything they're asking for. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.840 Yeah, dude, I still think like my favorite project to 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.520 yours was your self titled Shit of Course, which is 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.680 so fire. It was also like you're most like, you know, 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:35.160 like drugged out album. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.560 Yeah that shit was sick for sure. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:40.400 But but but like, how long you've been working on 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.120 this on this project, It's obviously been some time, like 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.480 three years. Yeah, I feel like I feel like when 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:47.280 you take your time like that, it's like. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.840 Even longer though, because some of the songs were older 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.720 songs where I just took the lyrics off the beat 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:53.920 and I'm like, put it on a new beat, and 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:55.280 they could have been four or five years old. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.880 Yeah, it's crazy too, because when you work on something 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.480 that long, I'm assuming like you could get demn itis 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.720 on Ship too every day where you're like, yeah, we 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.359 love this song two years ago. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:09.960 But demo demo itis, mixed itis every time of its 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.640 reverb itis, compression itis. 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.400 Yeah, like everything, Why my ad lits sound different on 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.720 this one than they sounded everything? Yeah, how do you 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:18.200 get over that? 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:18.360 Like? 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:19.600 How do you fight through it? Like you just there 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.160 is a collection of minds in the room. They're like 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.160 now like the OG version of this really is the ship. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.160 Like there's certain tricks for certain things like Temple. I 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.880 have a trick for Temple, okay, which is if you 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:30.760 want to speed up a song, Oh man, I just 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.480 give a game. But I know a lot of people 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.000 know this probably, but if you want to speed up 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.000 a song and want to feel normal with that new Temple, 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.800 you speed it up really fast and then like speed 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.960 it down really slow, like slower than the original Temple 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.280 and get play that for a bit and then speed 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.360 it back to that new temple that you want. Kind of, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.600 I gotta trick your brain. It's like if you're trying 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.720 to slow down a song, slow down really slow, and 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:52.760 then bring it back up to where you're trying to 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:53.560 put it like it's. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.120 Like it's a thing something like that. I don't know, 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.040 and then you're you're you're you're speeding up like the 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.520 vocals and everything. I like to find spots for the 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.560 temples of the songs. Yeah, it's interesting too because nowadays, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.640 like you didn't do obviously a lot of artists will 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.160 do like where they'll put a single out and they'll 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.040 be like a fucking used to be back in the 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:12.640 day when we was growing up, you get a chopped 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.720 in screwed version. Nowadays you get a sped up version 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:16.000 for TikTok She's Crazy. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.440 Yeah, I don't know. Some songs just sound cool like 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.120 they do. They get the whole craze. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.400 But I just remember, like you know, fools would be 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.760 high as fuck listening to chopped and screwed versions of 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.640 like fifty Said and Mike Jones. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.640 And shit and some times, man, everything's faster. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.720 Was that shit? Every big in Toronto, like the Ahe 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:31.200 Town shit. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.200 I mean if you're like a super fan of hip hop, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.279 yeah yeah, but not on a like whole scale. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.800 Right what uh? You know you obviously kind of got 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.359 into the game being a producer. You're a hell of 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.360 a producer. How much of the production on this album 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.680 did you handle? I know metro Booman has his hands 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.080 in on some, but like what was kind of like 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.520 your production side on this Like. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.120 Like on like a record like the metro boom in one, 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.039 I might not do anything. I just like just maybe 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.320 someone ranging, But every other one I'm pretty much got 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.240 my hands dirty, like and like songs like need You 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.400 that was like a beat made from scratch by me 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.159 and the drums, like my engineer came through the drums, 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.400 you know what I mean. But all the music, like 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.320 the playing music stuff, majority of us me. 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.160 Yeah, yeah, I can't imagine. Like when you're a producer, 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.039 it's probably hard to give because you get gave the 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.440 reins up. You metro got crazy album together? Yeah classic. 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.320 Somebody say that's your bit bet sound, you know what 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:19.720 I'm saying. 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.680 Like even that, like some people's favorite song on that 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.560 was like like oh call me help me down, Like 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.000 help me down? Was me being in the studio and 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:30.400 playing those chords and metro liking and the drums. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:31.640 Yeah, it's a collaboration. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:32.600 Yeah, exactly. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.320 Yo, what can you speak back to because I feel 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.400 like the record that kind of changed your life and 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.240 kind of like got people hip to where you were 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.000 or who you were as an artist was Beabs in 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.280 the Trap. How big of a moment was that for you? 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.120 Because I remember the video like it was kind of 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:49.720 like an album cut, but they did a video and 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:51.200 ship for it, and like it kind of like put 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.080 you on the map in terms of people like like 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.480 like could you have such a distinct voice? And people 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:56.360 are like, who the fuck is this? 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.600 People really thought it was justin bieber m Beabs in 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.600 the Trap. Then Travis didn't list his features on the tracks, 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.200 and some people don't know who I was at all, 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.479 right when the album came out, I probably had like 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.000 maybe ten twenty thousand followers, maybe less, I don't know. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.039 And yeah, it's like it was like recognition that came 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.159 slowly later, Like I wanted it as soon as they 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.240 dropping like hello, like nobody's saying me up making this 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.520 v to being on there, but it took a little 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.120 bit longer. But it was still the same thing. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.800 Yeah, definitely, Like was my top two or three record 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.600 on that album too? Right, Yeah, for sure. And then 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.520 you got I mean, are shooting the video helped too? 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.240 That helped you, yeah, because they're like, hey, it's me. 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:36.960 But even then they're like, who's that? 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.760 Are you aware? Like for a wave there, like like 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.400 twenty seventeen eighteen, anybody who had your haircut had the 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:44.760 NAV cut. Like it became a. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.240 Thing absolutely, Like I started seeing it a lot in 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.679 like places like Vancouver, in Canada. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.839 In Arizona, there were Mexicans who would have your haircut 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:55.000 and they would ask for the NAV. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.960 No, but okay, that's cool. But there's another one that's 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.000 like more hair. The Edgars. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.160 The Edgar it's you have definitely a version of the 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.120 more hair you haven't cleaned up adds way exactly, it's 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.040 way more. You gotta you have a Canadian Edgar like that. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.880 It's way more hair. These guys got helmets on their head. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:12.080 You know. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.120 Edgars are crazy. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You go to a knots Done 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.960 down here. Oh man, don't go to Knotsberry Farm during 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.360 the summertime. The Edgars are running wild out there. Bro 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.520 and the Wild dude they're wild. Yeah. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.320 You see some edgars in the wild, you'd be like, whoa, 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.200 they don't give a fuck about nothing. Yeah, they had 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.280 to cash out for sure because they got the helmet on. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.720 One hundred percent. Man yo for you man, Like, Uh, 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.720 it's been uh, it's been a pretty crazy year, uh 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.280 for the team obviously. Uh, the new weekend albums out? 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.960 Your album is out. What's the camaraderie like, you know, 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.040 you were at the Cardi show, cardies on your ship. 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.640 What's the camaraderie like with the XO team as a whole, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.200 Because I feel like you guys have always kind of 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.760 moved together, you know, even if even if you weren't 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:52.960 in cycle, you know what I mean. 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.760 I mean, ship it's just about like, you know, everybody 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.920 being team players, you know, knowing their roles and it's 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:02.480 just it's like a family, you know what I'm saying, 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.360 Like the biggest dude will pick up garbage off the floor, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.200 you know what I mean. Like it's like everybody's humble 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.840 and ground and from a similar background. So that's easy. 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.800 Now what Cardi is, We've been cool with him from 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.920 like way back. You know, It's like one of his 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:16.560 first shows in. 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.120 L A one time I got canceled or some shit 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.680 you ate the show got canceled or you guys got canceled. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.520 Oh okay, okay, yeah now Cardi's a I mean you 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:24.000 saw the show. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:24.560 It was wild. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.280 Yeah, so much fire. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:27.680 But the one that we're talking about was like some 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.400 like basement blaze I forgot from underground shiit like that's 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:31.040 how long we know? 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:35.400 Yeah? Yeah. The Cardia live experience was interesting. I was 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.959 standing right there and we're just like, there's that dude 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.959 with the long hair, the white dude, wasn't. 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:47.160 They damn the crowd? Yeah, Birdberry, whatever is. 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:50.079 That dude on stage? We were like, yo, is he good? 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.839 It looked like he was having like a like an 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.920 out of body experience, like his spirit was being torn 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.400 into the sky like live on stage. And then there's 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.240 the bald white dude like running. It was just yeah, 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:01.560 it was wild. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.080 You see when he jumped in the crowd though, and 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.640 he missed it. Miss man. These kids all they do 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.480 is they're holding their phones up. They're not ready for 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:08.400 you gotta be like. 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.000 He also hit the front of the gate. To be fair, 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.160 I think he misjudged the. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.560 Gee, he made it over. I think he just hit 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:14.000 the floor. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:15.959 Yeah. No, that's the other thing. I mean, back in 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:20.280 the day he used to be able to CrowdSurf. Confidently, 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.280 not anymore smartphones. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:23.000 You get dropped. 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.959 I can't imagine where you You weren't crowdsurfing back in 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:27.959 the night. Nah, it was crowdsurfing. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:28.360 I don't know. 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.000 Yeah, crowdsurfing, mosh pitting. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.200 I didn't really go to shows like that. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:36.400 Yeah, what was your first concert? M hm? I feel 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.439 like nas nos. Yeah, that's a good first show. Did 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.240 he forget a lot of his lyrics? No, he's got 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.280 this thing where he like forgets like half a one 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:45.719 mic every time he performs it. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.120 No way, shit happens. It happens to me too. Now. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.240 He is my favoriterapper of all time. We got my favorite. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:52.120 He's the goat. 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:54.960 But I've seen him like thirty times, and every time, 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.240 for whatever reason, he could just never remember the one 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:57.920 mic lyrics. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:09:58.960 That's crazy. 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.720 It is all. It's an interesting song because there's so 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.480 much like you know, but yeah, shots and NOAs he's 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:05.600 what's your favorite album? 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:14.400 Oh man, that's tough, Like I am still madic one 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:18.080 of those hard choice though, but still Mad. I think 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:19.640 still mad And that's like when I grew up, Like 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.720 I I grew up and the first NAS album I 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.400 heard was still Madic. I had to go backwards, you 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.960 had to go kind of dig in Nostradamis and I 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.360 Am as a double set. Yeah, and it was cheap 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.199 and ship because it's already been off. So of course 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.000 got that and then I started getting him. Then I 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:36.960 went all the way back to Illadic Life's of Bitch 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:37.480 and those songs. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.400 You know, yeah, no, still Madic. I feel like it's 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.559 the one that can like it's either ill Madic or 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:42.040 still mad. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.840 And then like I Give You Power or whatever album 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:44.160 that so. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.000 Of course that was on that was that was on 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:47.800 his second album. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.439 Like the penmanship is unbelievable. 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:54.800 Not for sure, affirmative action, incredible fire here he said push, No, 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.480 you're good, you're good shots, And I don't think a 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.000 lot of people think that, Like I feel like people 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.200 would be surprised, like yo, that you're in NAS head. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:04.120 Not for real? Like shit was like you know, telling stories, 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:06.600 break down. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.079 The name of the album on my way to Rexdale, 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:09.360 What's where is rex Stale where you're from? 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:10.040 Or yeah, that's what. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.840 I'm from the neighbor area. What's it like in Rexdale? 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.240 It's whatever you wanted to be. It's like, you want 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.920 to be smart and go to school and then go 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:19.480 to college. You could do that. You want to be 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.080 in trouble in the streets, you could be doing that. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.400 Like anything you want to be, you could be that. Yeah, 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.120 you know what I'm saying. But some areas are a 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.160 little bit more disadvantage where you're like you don't really 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:29.840 have as much as a choice, but you still got a. 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.400 Choice when you I feel like, were your parents like 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.080 behind you doing music or was it something you had 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:37.400 to kind of convince them to do. 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.120 My mom just wanted me to do anything. She's like 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.320 anything but just some bullshoes something. Yeah, you know, it 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.200 took me an extra year to get out of high school. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:46.959 I was like a failure in high school, you know, 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.520 really embarrassing thing. So you were held back. Yeah, wow, 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.600 I have to finish up. And when I finished up, 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.440 it was like what do I want to do? And 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.280 there was a studio school and I told my parents, like, 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:57.719 I want to go to studios. We learn it It's 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.240 far away, like on a bus an hour and a 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.000 half away every day and it cost it quite a bit. 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.600 So I just so my parents like put me down 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.440 for it and I'll figure it out later, the money thing, 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:06.600 you know. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.079 So like when you would go there, you learn like 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:09.080 pro tools and shit and. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:14.240 Pro tools, class SSL, yeah all that shit. Yeah damn. 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:15.719 So you were able to like you could track, you 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:16.880 could engineer, you can do everything. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.640 Yeah, so that's why I did. I just I did 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.199 definite a while. I made beats and I tracked people 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:21.839 until I became myself. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.240 In twenty twenty five. How are you making beats? Is 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:25.959 it still fil studio? Is it able toon? 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.600 Is it logic for melodies because the quantizer it just 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.360 works right away, you know what I mean? And fl 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.120 for drums. And now my friends are convincing me to 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:36.000 move on to Ableton. 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.240 People love Ableton, Like if you find somebody who loves Ableton, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.800 they will sell Like it's like it's like finding a 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.840 Mormon or something. They swear by it, you know. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.960 So I'm about to have three programs under my belts 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.520 and I know he use pro tools as well. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.839 Yeah, no, Ableton's vibe. Talk to me about for you? 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.320 How much are you focused on? Like, like do you 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.439 even care to produce outside of your own shit, Like 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.280 are you sending beat packs out? Is that something that 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:00.960 you're still. 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:04.080 Like uptil now? I haven't really been a beat pack 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.319 center kind of person, like if I collabed on the 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.880 beat ended up getting placed, for example, like I clabbed 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.160 on the beat and it went from back to back. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:11.520 I collabed on the beat and then went on like 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.880 Koda Black album with Ben billions, but he had to beat. 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.240 You know he's doing that from just me from my 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.640 email or from my phone. I'm going to start now 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.360 because I just recently set up a studio in my 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.080 living room. So I had a full blown studio in 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.000 one of my rooms in my house. But I don't 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:28.240 like being trot through in the room, so I like 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:29.760 being in the living room. So I've moved everything to 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.640 the living room. So your living room is the studio. Now. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.240 I got two set ups, a real studio and then 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.839 like a cool studio like Yamaha's with a suboofer and 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.480 a Midi keyboard and my laptop, and I've been making 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:40.959 beats down. I've been making beats more often, so I 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:42.760 might start sending the ones that I don't want to 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:43.199 use out. 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.160 Well, then you gets your album out, so now it's like, Okay, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.720 I got all this shit. You probably probably sitting on 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:47.880 hell of shit, like how many You probably got a 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.079 lot of stuff that didn't make the album too, A 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.160 lot of songs, a lot of beats. Deluxe coming. 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.520 I want to put the deluxe out, the one that 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:54.800 we sold on my site. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:59.400 Yeah, are you? I'm always always wondering when when you 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.640 cause I think this happened. Every time there's like a 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.800 big song like back to Back, you didn't really know 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.280 that that was gonna end up being what it was 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:06.679 going to be. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:07.440 Absolutely not. 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.120 I feel like that happens all the time. Like I 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.199 think with the ether Beat, the same shit happened with 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:16.000 with Ron Browse. Really was was there? Like was there 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.480 any what was the gift in the curse of that situation? 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.800 Could you end up with with with with meet mil. 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.680 On tap you know years later? Yeah? To be honest, 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.200 it was a tricky situation because at first I wasn't 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:32.320 really getting credited like that because of the whoever I 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:33.880 made the beaule who didn't want to I don't know, 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.080 And then as later on I ended up clearing that 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.600 up and getting the credit publicly, but I was I 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.840 was already popping as an artist before everybody knew that 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.920 I produced back to back. And the way I got 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.840 popping as an artist was, you know, meet Mile really 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.320 discovered my music and was like showing a person and 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.560 people like, you know, gosh and this and that, and 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.560 he was really like going through that whole thing. At 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.880 the same time, they didn't not knowing that I produced it, 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.800 and I didn't know it was going for that song. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:00.480 It's not like I knew it was one for that 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.040 and it was just kind of awkward. Like I remember 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:03.680 like going around the first time and being like, damn, 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.640 I wonder if he knows, like you know what I mean, 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:10.040 if cousin knows, because I really fucked with him. So yeah, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.600 that was a stretching interesting you guys, I mean doing fucking. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:15.400 I mean taps one of my favorite songs right. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.720 One of my biggest records, which is like it's dope, YO. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.520 Talk to me about your because I feel like you've 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.240