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Speaker 2: CAV Podcasts Bootleg CAV Show special guest. His new album
Speaker 2: is officially out and it's crazy too. I just was
Speaker 2: in the road trip from Phoenix to La bumping the
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Speaker 2: So welcome man. Good to see you, buddy. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: just talking about wrestling. H You were there when John
Speaker 2: Cena did the heel turn in Toronto?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What was that like? In person?
Speaker 1: It was fire because I could see the angle when
Speaker 1: he was hugging Cody Rose and his face changed. I
Speaker 1: could see that from where I was sitting. Yeah, his
Speaker 1: face was like like if I was facing the other way.
Speaker 2: I was like the rock had a spell on him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got to see like how it looked on TV. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a crazy experience.
Speaker 2: Yea, I had to it was Are you like a
Speaker 2: wrestling fan or were you? Just say it was in Toronto.
Speaker 1: Growing up way more than now with the you guys.
Speaker 1: But my friends who I played video games with, like
Speaker 1: the WW. They got me back into.
Speaker 2: It's a great game. It wasn't tap like a theme
Speaker 2: song for a pay per view. Yeah yeah, I remember
Speaker 2: tap back yo, y'all. X O boys just got the
Speaker 2: WW sewed up cash Man. Cash got the biggest fan.
Speaker 2: He is the biggest fan. I think the Weekend has
Speaker 2: had like the theme song for many like six years
Speaker 2: straight or something. Crazy. Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, No shout
Speaker 2: outs to cash Man. He's and and he looks good too.
Speaker 2: He's like he gotta be on keto or something. What's
Speaker 2: going on with cash But he looked good.
Speaker 1: I'm trying on the same program.
Speaker 2: Last time I saw him, I was like, you're not
Speaker 2: on a Osempic. He's like, nah, bro, this is all
Speaker 2: like I'm working out and I'm eating right. It's true. Nah,
Speaker 2: It's it's fire. How you feel, man, you got the
Speaker 2: new body of workout. How's it feel feel relieved? You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I gave my Day One fans
Speaker 1: everything they're asking for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I still think like my favorite project to
Speaker 2: yours was your self titled Shit of Course, which is
Speaker 2: so fire. It was also like you're most like, you know,
Speaker 2: like drugged out album.
Speaker 1: Yeah that shit was sick for sure.
Speaker 2: But but but like, how long you've been working on
Speaker 2: this on this project, It's obviously been some time, like
Speaker 2: three years. Yeah, I feel like I feel like when
Speaker 2: you take your time like that, it's like.
Speaker 1: Even longer though, because some of the songs were older
Speaker 1: songs where I just took the lyrics off the beat
Speaker 1: and I'm like, put it on a new beat, and
Speaker 1: they could have been four or five years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy too, because when you work on something
Speaker 2: that long, I'm assuming like you could get demn itis
Speaker 2: on Ship too every day where you're like, yeah, we
Speaker 2: love this song two years ago.
Speaker 1: But demo demo itis, mixed itis every time of its
Speaker 1: reverb itis, compression itis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like everything, Why my ad lits sound different on
Speaker 2: this one than they sounded everything? Yeah, how do you
Speaker 2: get over that?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: How do you fight through it? Like you just there
Speaker 2: is a collection of minds in the room. They're like
Speaker 2: now like the OG version of this really is the ship.
Speaker 1: Like there's certain tricks for certain things like Temple. I
Speaker 1: have a trick for Temple, okay, which is if you
Speaker 1: want to speed up a song, Oh man, I just
Speaker 1: give a game. But I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: know this probably, but if you want to speed up
Speaker 1: a song and want to feel normal with that new Temple,
Speaker 1: you speed it up really fast and then like speed
Speaker 1: it down really slow, like slower than the original Temple
Speaker 1: and get play that for a bit and then speed
Speaker 1: it back to that new temple that you want. Kind of,
Speaker 1: I gotta trick your brain. It's like if you're trying
Speaker 1: to slow down a song, slow down really slow, and
Speaker 1: then bring it back up to where you're trying to
Speaker 1: put it like it's.
Speaker 2: Like it's a thing something like that. I don't know,
Speaker 2: and then you're you're you're you're speeding up like the
Speaker 2: vocals and everything. I like to find spots for the
Speaker 2: temples of the songs. Yeah, it's interesting too because nowadays,
Speaker 2: like you didn't do obviously a lot of artists will
Speaker 2: do like where they'll put a single out and they'll
Speaker 2: be like a fucking used to be back in the
Speaker 2: day when we was growing up, you get a chopped
Speaker 2: in screwed version. Nowadays you get a sped up version
Speaker 2: for TikTok She's Crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Some songs just sound cool like
Speaker 1: they do. They get the whole craze.
Speaker 2: But I just remember, like you know, fools would be
Speaker 2: high as fuck listening to chopped and screwed versions of
Speaker 2: like fifty Said and Mike Jones.
Speaker 1: And shit and some times, man, everything's faster.
Speaker 2: Was that shit? Every big in Toronto, like the Ahe
Speaker 2: Town shit.
Speaker 1: I mean if you're like a super fan of hip hop,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but not on a like whole scale.
Speaker 2: Right what uh? You know you obviously kind of got
Speaker 2: into the game being a producer. You're a hell of
Speaker 2: a producer. How much of the production on this album
Speaker 2: did you handle? I know metro Booman has his hands
Speaker 2: in on some, but like what was kind of like
Speaker 2: your production side on this Like.
Speaker 1: Like on like a record like the metro boom in one,
Speaker 1: I might not do anything. I just like just maybe
Speaker 1: someone ranging, But every other one I'm pretty much got
Speaker 1: my hands dirty, like and like songs like need You
Speaker 1: that was like a beat made from scratch by me
Speaker 1: and the drums, like my engineer came through the drums,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But all the music, like
Speaker 1: the playing music stuff, majority of us me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can't imagine. Like when you're a producer,
Speaker 2: it's probably hard to give because you get gave the
Speaker 2: reins up. You metro got crazy album together? Yeah classic.
Speaker 2: Somebody say that's your bit bet sound, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like even that, like some people's favorite song on that
Speaker 1: was like like oh call me help me down, Like
Speaker 1: help me down? Was me being in the studio and
Speaker 1: playing those chords and metro liking and the drums.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a collaboration.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yo, what can you speak back to because I feel
Speaker 2: like the record that kind of changed your life and
Speaker 2: kind of like got people hip to where you were
Speaker 2: or who you were as an artist was Beabs in
Speaker 2: the Trap. How big of a moment was that for you?
Speaker 2: Because I remember the video like it was kind of
Speaker 2: like an album cut, but they did a video and
Speaker 2: ship for it, and like it kind of like put
Speaker 2: you on the map in terms of people like like
Speaker 2: like could you have such a distinct voice? And people
Speaker 2: are like, who the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: People really thought it was justin bieber m Beabs in
Speaker 1: the Trap. Then Travis didn't list his features on the tracks,
Speaker 1: and some people don't know who I was at all,
Speaker 1: right when the album came out, I probably had like
Speaker 1: maybe ten twenty thousand followers, maybe less, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's like it was like recognition that came
Speaker 1: slowly later, Like I wanted it as soon as they
Speaker 1: dropping like hello, like nobody's saying me up making this
Speaker 1: v to being on there, but it took a little
Speaker 1: bit longer. But it was still the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Like was my top two or three record
Speaker 2: on that album too? Right, Yeah, for sure. And then
Speaker 2: you got I mean, are shooting the video helped too?
Speaker 1: That helped you, yeah, because they're like, hey, it's me.
Speaker 1: But even then they're like, who's that?
Speaker 2: Are you aware? Like for a wave there, like like
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen eighteen, anybody who had your haircut had the
Speaker 2: NAV cut. Like it became a.
Speaker 1: Thing absolutely, Like I started seeing it a lot in
Speaker 1: like places like Vancouver, in Canada.
Speaker 2: In Arizona, there were Mexicans who would have your haircut
Speaker 2: and they would ask for the NAV.
Speaker 1: No, but okay, that's cool. But there's another one that's
Speaker 1: like more hair. The Edgars.
Speaker 2: The Edgar it's you have definitely a version of the
Speaker 2: more hair you haven't cleaned up adds way exactly, it's
Speaker 2: way more. You gotta you have a Canadian Edgar like that.
Speaker 1: It's way more hair. These guys got helmets on their head.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Edgars are crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You go to a knots Done
Speaker 2: down here. Oh man, don't go to Knotsberry Farm during
Speaker 2: the summertime. The Edgars are running wild out there. Bro
Speaker 2: and the Wild dude they're wild. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You see some edgars in the wild, you'd be like, whoa,
Speaker 1: they don't give a fuck about nothing. Yeah, they had
Speaker 1: to cash out for sure because they got the helmet on.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Man yo for you man, Like, Uh,
Speaker 2: it's been uh, it's been a pretty crazy year, uh
Speaker 2: for the team obviously. Uh, the new weekend albums out?
Speaker 2: Your album is out. What's the camaraderie like, you know,
Speaker 2: you were at the Cardi show, cardies on your ship.
Speaker 2: What's the camaraderie like with the XO team as a whole,
Speaker 2: Because I feel like you guys have always kind of
Speaker 2: moved together, you know, even if even if you weren't
Speaker 2: in cycle, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, ship it's just about like, you know, everybody
Speaker 1: being team players, you know, knowing their roles and it's
Speaker 1: just it's like a family, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like the biggest dude will pick up garbage off the floor,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's like everybody's humble
Speaker 1: and ground and from a similar background. So that's easy.
Speaker 1: Now what Cardi is, We've been cool with him from
Speaker 1: like way back. You know, It's like one of his
Speaker 1: first shows in.
Speaker 2: L A one time I got canceled or some shit
Speaker 2: you ate the show got canceled or you guys got canceled.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, yeah now Cardi's a I mean you
Speaker 2: saw the show.
Speaker 1: It was wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so much fire.
Speaker 1: But the one that we're talking about was like some
Speaker 1: like basement blaze I forgot from underground shiit like that's
Speaker 1: how long we know?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. The Cardia live experience was interesting. I was
Speaker 2: standing right there and we're just like, there's that dude
Speaker 2: with the long hair, the white dude, wasn't.
Speaker 1: They damn the crowd? Yeah, Birdberry, whatever is.
Speaker 2: That dude on stage? We were like, yo, is he good?
Speaker 2: It looked like he was having like a like an
Speaker 2: out of body experience, like his spirit was being torn
Speaker 2: into the sky like live on stage. And then there's
Speaker 2: the bald white dude like running. It was just yeah,
Speaker 2: it was wild.
Speaker 1: You see when he jumped in the crowd though, and
Speaker 1: he missed it. Miss man. These kids all they do
Speaker 1: is they're holding their phones up. They're not ready for
Speaker 1: you gotta be like.
Speaker 2: He also hit the front of the gate. To be fair,
Speaker 2: I think he misjudged the.
Speaker 1: Gee, he made it over. I think he just hit
Speaker 1: the floor.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's the other thing. I mean, back in
Speaker 2: the day he used to be able to CrowdSurf. Confidently,
Speaker 2: not anymore smartphones.
Speaker 1: You get dropped.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine where you You weren't crowdsurfing back in
Speaker 2: the night. Nah, it was crowdsurfing.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, crowdsurfing, mosh pitting.
Speaker 1: I didn't really go to shows like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your first concert? M hm? I feel
Speaker 2: like nas nos. Yeah, that's a good first show. Did
Speaker 2: he forget a lot of his lyrics? No, he's got
Speaker 2: this thing where he like forgets like half a one
Speaker 2: mic every time he performs it.
Speaker 1: No way, shit happens. It happens to me too. Now.
Speaker 2: He is my favoriterapper of all time. We got my favorite.
Speaker 1: He's the goat.
Speaker 2: But I've seen him like thirty times, and every time,
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, he could just never remember the one
Speaker 2: mic lyrics.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: It is all. It's an interesting song because there's so
Speaker 2: much like you know, but yeah, shots and NOAs he's
Speaker 2: what's your favorite album?
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's tough, Like I am still madic one
Speaker 1: of those hard choice though, but still Mad. I think
Speaker 1: still mad And that's like when I grew up, Like
Speaker 1: I I grew up and the first NAS album I
Speaker 1: heard was still Madic. I had to go backwards, you
Speaker 1: had to go kind of dig in Nostradamis and I
Speaker 1: Am as a double set. Yeah, and it was cheap
Speaker 1: and ship because it's already been off. So of course
Speaker 1: got that and then I started getting him. Then I
Speaker 1: went all the way back to Illadic Life's of Bitch
Speaker 1: and those songs.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, no, still Madic. I feel like it's
Speaker 2: the one that can like it's either ill Madic or
Speaker 2: still mad.
Speaker 1: And then like I Give You Power or whatever album
Speaker 1: that so.
Speaker 2: Of course that was on that was that was on
Speaker 2: his second album.
Speaker 1: Like the penmanship is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Not for sure, affirmative action, incredible fire here he said push, No,
Speaker 2: you're good, you're good shots, And I don't think a
Speaker 2: lot of people think that, Like I feel like people
Speaker 2: would be surprised, like yo, that you're in NAS head.
Speaker 1: Not for real? Like shit was like you know, telling stories,
Speaker 1: break down.
Speaker 2: The name of the album on my way to Rexdale,
Speaker 2: What's where is rex Stale where you're from?
Speaker 1: Or yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2: I'm from the neighbor area. What's it like in Rexdale?
Speaker 1: It's whatever you wanted to be. It's like, you want
Speaker 1: to be smart and go to school and then go
Speaker 1: to college. You could do that. You want to be
Speaker 1: in trouble in the streets, you could be doing that.
Speaker 1: Like anything you want to be, you could be that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But some areas are a
Speaker 1: little bit more disadvantage where you're like you don't really
Speaker 1: have as much as a choice, but you still got a.
Speaker 2: Choice when you I feel like, were your parents like
Speaker 2: behind you doing music or was it something you had
Speaker 2: to kind of convince them to do.
Speaker 1: My mom just wanted me to do anything. She's like
Speaker 1: anything but just some bullshoes something. Yeah, you know, it
Speaker 1: took me an extra year to get out of high school.
Speaker 1: I was like a failure in high school, you know,
Speaker 1: really embarrassing thing. So you were held back. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: I have to finish up. And when I finished up,
Speaker 1: it was like what do I want to do? And
Speaker 1: there was a studio school and I told my parents, like,
Speaker 1: I want to go to studios. We learn it It's
Speaker 1: far away, like on a bus an hour and a
Speaker 1: half away every day and it cost it quite a bit.
Speaker 1: So I just so my parents like put me down
Speaker 1: for it and I'll figure it out later, the money thing,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: So like when you would go there, you learn like
Speaker 2: pro tools and shit and.
Speaker 1: Pro tools, class SSL, yeah all that shit. Yeah damn.
Speaker 2: So you were able to like you could track, you
Speaker 2: could engineer, you can do everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's why I did. I just I did
Speaker 1: definite a while. I made beats and I tracked people
Speaker 1: until I became myself.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five. How are you making beats? Is
Speaker 2: it still fil studio? Is it able toon?
Speaker 1: Is it logic for melodies because the quantizer it just
Speaker 1: works right away, you know what I mean? And fl
Speaker 1: for drums. And now my friends are convincing me to
Speaker 1: move on to Ableton.
Speaker 2: People love Ableton, Like if you find somebody who loves Ableton,
Speaker 2: they will sell Like it's like it's like finding a
Speaker 2: Mormon or something. They swear by it, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm about to have three programs under my belts
Speaker 1: and I know he use pro tools as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Ableton's vibe. Talk to me about for you?
Speaker 2: How much are you focused on? Like, like do you
Speaker 2: even care to produce outside of your own shit, Like
Speaker 2: are you sending beat packs out? Is that something that
Speaker 2: you're still.
Speaker 1: Like uptil now? I haven't really been a beat pack
Speaker 1: center kind of person, like if I collabed on the
Speaker 1: beat ended up getting placed, for example, like I clabbed
Speaker 1: on the beat and it went from back to back.
Speaker 1: I collabed on the beat and then went on like
Speaker 1: Koda Black album with Ben billions, but he had to beat.
Speaker 1: You know he's doing that from just me from my
Speaker 1: email or from my phone. I'm going to start now
Speaker 1: because I just recently set up a studio in my
Speaker 1: living room. So I had a full blown studio in
Speaker 1: one of my rooms in my house. But I don't
Speaker 1: like being trot through in the room, so I like
Speaker 1: being in the living room. So I've moved everything to
Speaker 1: the living room. So your living room is the studio. Now.
Speaker 1: I got two set ups, a real studio and then
Speaker 1: like a cool studio like Yamaha's with a suboofer and
Speaker 1: a Midi keyboard and my laptop, and I've been making
Speaker 1: beats down. I've been making beats more often, so I
Speaker 1: might start sending the ones that I don't want to
Speaker 1: use out.
Speaker 2: Well, then you gets your album out, so now it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I got all this shit. You probably probably sitting on
Speaker 2: hell of shit, like how many You probably got a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff that didn't make the album too, A
Speaker 2: lot of songs, a lot of beats. Deluxe coming.
Speaker 1: I want to put the deluxe out, the one that
Speaker 1: we sold on my site.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you? I'm always always wondering when when you
Speaker 2: cause I think this happened. Every time there's like a
Speaker 2: big song like back to Back, you didn't really know
Speaker 2: that that was gonna end up being what it was
Speaker 2: going to be.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: I feel like that happens all the time. Like I
Speaker 2: think with the ether Beat, the same shit happened with
Speaker 2: with Ron Browse. Really was was there? Like was there
Speaker 2: any what was the gift in the curse of that situation?
Speaker 2: Could you end up with with with with meet mil.
Speaker 1: On tap you know years later? Yeah? To be honest,
Speaker 1: it was a tricky situation because at first I wasn't
Speaker 1: really getting credited like that because of the whoever I
Speaker 1: made the beaule who didn't want to I don't know,
Speaker 1: And then as later on I ended up clearing that
Speaker 1: up and getting the credit publicly, but I was I
Speaker 1: was already popping as an artist before everybody knew that
Speaker 1: I produced back to back. And the way I got
Speaker 1: popping as an artist was, you know, meet Mile really
Speaker 1: discovered my music and was like showing a person and
Speaker 1: people like, you know, gosh and this and that, and
Speaker 1: he was really like going through that whole thing. At
Speaker 1: the same time, they didn't not knowing that I produced it,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know it was going for that song.
Speaker 1: It's not like I knew it was one for that
Speaker 1: and it was just kind of awkward. Like I remember
Speaker 1: like going around the first time and being like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wonder if he knows, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: if cousin knows, because I really fucked with him. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a stretching interesting you guys, I mean doing fucking.
Speaker 2: I mean taps one of my favorite songs right.
Speaker 1: One of my biggest records, which is like it's dope, YO.
Speaker 2: Talk to me about your because I feel like you've
Speaker 2: kind of been adopted by l A a bit here.
Speaker 2: I think I remember seeing you when Nip did his
Speaker 2: grand opening the Marathon store in like two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: You were out there, what was your relationship, like with it.
Speaker 1: When he was here, Man, damn slow in Bucks. You
Speaker 1: know that's one of their closest friends, dropped the Queens.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. You know. He spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: in Queen's. So when I went over there, I went
Speaker 1: with Sloan Bucks and that day they even want to
Speaker 1: take me. I was like, yo, yeah, I just leave
Speaker 1: me in the house all the time. I'm a young
Speaker 1: artist at the time. They didn't want to take me everyone.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going there, but I want to go
Speaker 1: when I go. When I when I first go there,
Speaker 1: niffs Nips coming out of the car and he told me, Yo,
Speaker 1: I fucked with re up with Belly. He's like, I
Speaker 1: fucked with that verse. I'm like whatever, real, I'm like,
Speaker 1: damn tried to Belly one of the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: Know who I am is crazy. So Nip's like, yo,
Speaker 1: come on, like come in the store. I went crazy,
Speaker 1: bought all the stuff from my boys and all that shit,
Speaker 1: got everything from people back home. So after that, he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: come on, let's go smoke in the front kick doing it.
Speaker 1: More than he's like, yo, let's get in the ATV.
Speaker 1: Their bikes together. I'm like okay, and he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: like when you learn how to drive, He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: just last week, I'm like, nah, I'm not hopping out.
Speaker 1: I started going yoh yeah, wait up away for Bucks
Speaker 1: Bucks over there, Like no, I'm not getting off a yo.
Speaker 1: Nip always showed me love seeing him like multiple times
Speaker 1: after that, always love. He is knowledge and recipes of
Speaker 1: that man bro.
Speaker 2: Great guy. Man, you're a shroom guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was hard on it before, but I've just slowed
Speaker 1: down on it.
Speaker 2: Now. What is your Have you ever had like a
Speaker 2: hero's dose level of Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has. I feel like your tolerance goes up
Speaker 1: the more you take it. So I did a rolling
Speaker 1: loud back in Toronto when my album just dropped, and
Speaker 1: I took over five grams in the studio.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's my sister start.
Speaker 1: She has a fiance now, the one that lives in Toronto,
Speaker 1: and she brought him to the studio because we're gonna
Speaker 1: go together. And one of my sisters the show. This
Speaker 1: guy couldn't believe what you were seeing. He was because
Speaker 1: he never been around that kind of shit. So he
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this guy just took all those shrooms
Speaker 1: he just made three beats and now he's about to
Speaker 1: go perform at Rolling Loud And when I was so
Speaker 1: fried when I went on roll Out, but it was
Speaker 1: like I was so used to it that like my
Speaker 1: lyrics that I usually forget were like only a teleprompter
Speaker 1: in my mind. And like when I when I went
Speaker 1: on stage, I literally grabbed my sister. I was like,
Speaker 1: looked at her eyes. I was like, watch this. And
Speaker 1: then I went on stage and I was like performing
Speaker 1: and celebrating at the same time because my album's outso
Speaker 1: I'm just like it had to be the best shit ever.
Speaker 1: It was the best performance I ever. Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if the crowd felt the same way, but I
Speaker 1: felt like I was half for the best performance of
Speaker 1: my whole life.
Speaker 2: Yo. It's like shrews. Like if you take a ship
Speaker 2: ton and you know, like you said, if you know
Speaker 2: what you're doing, you can like use him as a
Speaker 2: super powerful That's.
Speaker 1: The point I was taking them since they weren't working. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to take so much. I took a hero
Speaker 1: whole hero bar.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Belly gave me a book about uh, I forget
Speaker 2: what it was called. It's at my house. I read
Speaker 2: it it's about it's about it kind of like the
Speaker 2: whole whole books about this doctor wrote this book about
Speaker 2: psilocybin therapy and shit. And I remember it goes one
Speaker 2: time I was at Belly's house and you've probably seen
Speaker 2: this thing. This motherfucker has this uh this thing with
Speaker 2: sand on it and when you play the music that
Speaker 2: it makes fat yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was tripping the fuck out because I was like, this.
Speaker 2: Is crazy, Like this is like music is real, Like
Speaker 2: it's tangible, like you could see the frequencies like with
Speaker 2: the sand.
Speaker 1: In some way or another. They say this, even this
Speaker 1: desk is made up of.
Speaker 2: Frequency, for sure. Have you had a bad trip though?
Speaker 1: My first trip ever was about trip. My first trip ever,
Speaker 1: I was like eighteen years old and we did it
Speaker 1: with a couple of my little Indian homies. We did
Speaker 1: it in Toronto and we we just had I had
Speaker 1: a horrible trip. And one thing I noticed was back
Speaker 1: then I was running around with the wrong crowd, doing
Speaker 1: the wrong things, feeling school Da da da da, and
Speaker 1: my homie, who was like the weirdo and people made
Speaker 1: fun of him kind of type shit, he was having
Speaker 1: a great trip and that kind of like taught me something.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy just is himself all the time.
Speaker 1: So that's why I feel like you and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be something. I'm not hanging out with the wrong
Speaker 1: people doing the wrong things. And it really like when
Speaker 1: I came out of that ship, I graduated high school,
Speaker 1: switched up who I'm hanging out with. Everything went. So
Speaker 1: it was a good trip technically it turned out to be,
Speaker 1: but the trip during it horrible, terrible. Every time I
Speaker 1: closed my eyes, fib breathing and dragon coming at me.
Speaker 1: When I opened something bads happening everything. I couldn't get
Speaker 1: away from the ship. Have you done d MT? No, No,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to do that ship. But I'm
Speaker 1: hell scared, bro, think I'm ready. I feel like, once
Speaker 1: you're spiritually balance, while you're sober, right, you can handle
Speaker 1: all that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're you're you're pretty sober now, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I smoked weed every day. But like in terms
Speaker 1: of like, you know, the ship you were rapping about,
Speaker 1: I'll tap into stuff, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: if it's like I'm in the studio.
Speaker 2: For your all time best druggie rapper. By the way,
Speaker 2: In terms of the subject subject matter, appreciated.
Speaker 1: Those the drugs kids are I'll tap into some ship
Speaker 1: Like if I'm in the studio for two weeks, there
Speaker 1: might be a day where we are dabbling something just
Speaker 1: to get a different kind of vibe. Not every day, right,
Speaker 1: that's just going to kill you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I feel like, you know, especially, I feel
Speaker 2: like when you get first got in the game, Fetanah
Speaker 2: wouldn't really like dang for real, you know, fast forward.
Speaker 2: Now it's like you it's like you gotta get the
Speaker 2: drug testing kids and ship out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even if you gotta trust the source and it
Speaker 1: is good work, it's it no't matter that shit isn't
Speaker 1: gonna work you eventually, for sure, eventually.
Speaker 2: Even the weed now is fucking because they're spraying the well, no,
Speaker 2: they're spraying weed with the turfs. It's it's like, what
Speaker 2: are you even smoking in New York?
Speaker 1: And New York is heavy right now?
Speaker 2: In New York is bad.
Speaker 1: Young dudes, the young dudes, they want that over the
Speaker 1: regular weed. Yeah, because like you're like, give me the
Speaker 1: shit with the turfs.
Speaker 2: They're getting some bullshit packs from LA and then they
Speaker 2: you know, they'll spruce them up.
Speaker 1: So from week lemon cherry yeah, the Turfs on.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Man, you're a big hockey fan growing
Speaker 2: up more so ya is that just like because you're
Speaker 2: from Canada, Because I don't get it.
Speaker 1: Grew up playing and ship like Maple Leafs. Maple Leaves,
Speaker 1: they're the best they've ever been. But damn, bro, they
Speaker 1: haven't got a Stanley Cupping sixty years or some shit.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm just waiting on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like, are you would you see a bigger
Speaker 2: Raptors fan or Maple Leaves.
Speaker 1: Fan Raptors fan, But I'm not gonna lie. Bandwagon the
Speaker 1: Raptors this last championship. I was growing up and Vince
Speaker 1: Carter and Tracy McGrady. Of course that was my favorite team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dunk Contest days were crazy. So before the
Speaker 2: before you bandwagon the Raptors after they won with the
Speaker 2: Kawhi thing where you like a fan of another random team. Curry, Oh, Steph,
Speaker 2: you're just a bandwagon.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, just Curry Curry. We've been seeing
Speaker 1: Curry how good he is back in the day when
Speaker 1: he had Monte Ellis on the team. So if you
Speaker 1: want to Andrew David Lee, he's playing a game and
Speaker 1: Monte Ellis was a star. But when you passed the Curry,
Speaker 1: he's hitting the threes. Likes just Curry, guys, Curry got
Speaker 1: fire and we've watched him grow into who he is.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I like Curry Curry for sure?
Speaker 2: Have you uh if? I feel like obviously their hip
Speaker 2: hop scene in India has been blowing up. Uh you
Speaker 2: know it's like his own thing. Like how tapped in?
Speaker 1: Are you? Like?
Speaker 2: Obviously you're huge here, but are you tapped in it all?
Speaker 2: To like what was going on over there?
Speaker 1: I know everything that's going on. I'm aware of everything
Speaker 1: that is going on, but topped in as far as
Speaker 1: like how many people have had many music with? Yeah,
Speaker 1: only really EP Dyllans so far, and I plan on
Speaker 1: working with everybody if I can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the homies name? With the Big Dogs record?
Speaker 2: I had him on Kine Uh wait a minute, get
Speaker 2: what the fuck is?
Speaker 1: Oh? That's going I bumped into him actually in Thailand?
Speaker 2: Well now, Thailand. Yeah, I was there, Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 2: didn't really I didn't see you there, but I was there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was there for twelve days. How was your Thailand experience?
Speaker 1: Its good? Was it nice? Nice? Good food? Yeah.
Speaker 2: So good food, good food, good food. Did you just
Speaker 2: stay in that area? Did you go to Bangkok Pataya
Speaker 2: and then Bangkok Pattaya's got that street man.
Speaker 1: The hotel is unbelievable to all that street we don't
Speaker 1: that streets gets fishy, real fishy, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the street joints super fishy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, you can see them, they got you
Speaker 1: can see them. Anybody who says they get tricked, they
Speaker 1: didn't get tricked. Hell known, impossible, impossible.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's a it's a great place, great food.
Speaker 2: There's elephants too. You know, I ain't see the elephants
Speaker 2: and tigers. I'm glad I ain't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And they got a bootleg mall there. That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: None. I went to a real mall. They felt like America,
Speaker 1: five story fake mall. I would love to go there
Speaker 1: just to see its fire.
Speaker 2: All my kids got Travis Scott's that they don't know
Speaker 2: are fake. My kids are running around with fake shooting.
Speaker 2: I said, wait, how much of these?
Speaker 1: I looked at him.
Speaker 2: I said, oh no, we're doing this.
Speaker 1: I had to buy a whole new suitcase just to
Speaker 1: bring fake gifts back. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: It's good times.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Shout out to a shout out to uh, you know
Speaker 2: Thailand and and and and and the hustlers out there.
Speaker 1: Is there a tour coming absolutely as soon as we can.
Speaker 2: Are you Are you already trying to figure out like
Speaker 2: the date, like the dates.
Speaker 1: I've been on, you know, my team about it having
Speaker 1: like only starting this to announce and they're working on
Speaker 1: it right now, so we'll get it.
Speaker 2: Uh. Did you go to Coachella last weekend?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you were the kind of guy
Speaker 2: to be at every fest. I feel like at Coachella
Speaker 2: you'd see nap backstage. Really, I don't know, it just
Speaker 2: feels like your kind of thing. You're going this weekend?
Speaker 1: N I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I just don't feel like when this year. Maybe because
Speaker 2: it's fucking in the middle of the desert and I
Speaker 2: have been so many times. It's like how many times
Speaker 2: do you need to fucking go to understand what the happening?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and last year I was performing, so it was
Speaker 1: more lit.
Speaker 2: You know, talk about your uh, your just chemistry with
Speaker 2: a guy like metro Booman, who you know is one
Speaker 2: of the greatest producers. If not at this point fuck.
Speaker 2: I think he's got the best producer album ever, Heroes
Speaker 2: and Villains a classic. But uh, what y'all's like chemistry?
Speaker 2: Like in the studio, how'd you guys kind of hone in.
Speaker 1: And Cash put us together at first like a lot
Speaker 1: of people, but just genuine relationships my brother and my friend,
Speaker 1: my dog, you know, and and and then on top
Speaker 1: of we we both make beats, both make music, so
Speaker 1: it's just easy. I don't know, like I haven't worked
Speaker 1: on them in a long time since Perfect. And then
Speaker 1: the day that we finally sat down and locked in
Speaker 1: for this album, it was just flowing, like just like
Speaker 1: back in the day no Time Lost. We did like
Speaker 1: four three four songs in the night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy too, because like I feel like you
Speaker 2: got to kind of have a different approach when you
Speaker 2: worked on Perfect timing where you're doing like a full
Speaker 2: collaborative album with somebody. Did y'all know that told you
Speaker 2: but you guys were going to do it? Did it
Speaker 2: just happened where it was like, damn, we got like
Speaker 2: a bunch of joints. Then we might as well make
Speaker 2: this ship a project.
Speaker 1: We knew we're gonna do a project called Perfect timing,
Speaker 1: and we knew we were working on it, and then
Speaker 1: there'll be like La sessions. Then he'd traveled to go
Speaker 1: do something untravelable something, and then we where we really
Speaker 1: locked in was in Atlanta at I can't remember the
Speaker 1: studios name, but it's far out in the bluffs. That's
Speaker 1: what we locked in through.
Speaker 2: A great album Part two one day. I know, God
Speaker 2: bless for sure. You do a lot of video gaming too, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's your what's your go to games? Right now?
Speaker 1: I played the Weirdest Ship, like I played Call of Duty.
Speaker 1: Obviously I play sports games and stuff, But right now
Speaker 1: I'm playing Schedule at one of it and playing Billatrot
Speaker 1: is a card game that's really popular. Schedule one. You're
Speaker 1: playing a drug dealing game, like you literally could sell
Speaker 1: anything on PlayStation. No, it's on Steam, like you know,
Speaker 1: like on the oh yeah, the app. Yeah, it's the
Speaker 1: biggest game on it right now. I think like most
Speaker 1: highest rat is it like some grand theft auto ship bro. No,
Speaker 1: it's like shitty graphics but good concept.
Speaker 2: So you're like a drug dealer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make you can sell we you can sell dope.
Speaker 1: You just gotta you gotta have your workers to work
Speaker 1: and have plants and set up lights and all that
Speaker 1: and like have a like, oh so you can set
Speaker 1: up like a grow a packaging station. It's like mad intricate,
Speaker 1: you know what I.
Speaker 2: Mean, What the fuck? And you're doing streaming and all
Speaker 2: that too?
Speaker 1: Nah, no, no, I did the other day I played
Speaker 1: Call of Duty with Biffle on streamed.
Speaker 2: Do you feel, like, how do you feel about the whole?
Speaker 2: I feel like the streaming shit's kind of cool, Like
Speaker 2: for the most part, it feels like, you know, I
Speaker 2: think guy's like a like super cool, like DDG is
Speaker 2: doing this thing. Some of these guys are a little
Speaker 2: corny to be honest, But how do you feel about it?
Speaker 2: Because it feels like that's kind of the new media,
Speaker 2: like the streaming guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think things us evolve, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's either you get with the times or you
Speaker 1: just get left in the dust. And it's like what
Speaker 1: they're doing is cool. I just don't know about it
Speaker 1: for me and my brain, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But what they're doing is cool and it does well.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of them have cool personalities.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I went on DDG stream and I was
Speaker 2: helling nervous because I was like whatever I say, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's it. It's like not coming down, that's it. You
Speaker 2: gotta have pr training for real for sure, and they'll
Speaker 2: clip the fuck out of here. Dude. They clipped everything
Speaker 2: like him and I just started having a conversation about
Speaker 2: like my pizza restaurant and ship, and then like it
Speaker 2: turned into some other ship and then I had to
Speaker 2: stop and be like, oh shit, like there's like cameras
Speaker 2: on the walls and.
Speaker 1: Because like farming now they call it or off farming,
Speaker 1: clip farming.
Speaker 2: Dude, the clip farming. Yeah, no, it's wild. It's almost
Speaker 2: like that's the whole point of streaming is like how
Speaker 2: are we gonna just fucking We got to give these
Speaker 2: clippers some ship.
Speaker 1: Now, when I was with Neon like off camera like before,
Speaker 1: like he's super cool, he was. We were in New
Speaker 1: York and we're doing other things and I just seen
Speaker 1: him were his head's as streaming like that shit is
Speaker 1: stress for sure. He's like, how can we make contact
Speaker 1: out of the content out of this? And then next thing,
Speaker 1: why are you think about your head? Is how can
Speaker 1: we get a clip? How can we get something?
Speaker 2: Yo? Let's go run around the projects with Jim Jones.
Speaker 2: Ye see what happens.
Speaker 1: He's had a video shoot with us that ship. It
Speaker 1: wasn't strong enough content, Yea, it wasn't insane bro, Like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: this shit's got to be a little more crazy. Does
Speaker 1: anybody any guns? Right? Shout out to the streamers, Man,
Speaker 1: I get it. Nobody's crazy. It's like it's like not sustainable.
Speaker 2: I feel like long term, yeah, because it's like if
Speaker 2: you're Neon and you're like thirty five, at one point
Speaker 2: you're like, damn, I still trying to run around and
Speaker 2: chase like moments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like hip hop too.
Speaker 2: It is, Yep, it is. It's like the SoundCloud era
Speaker 2: but for content makers right now, man.
Speaker 1: And that audience is very like chew you up and
Speaker 1: spit you out quick.
Speaker 2: How do you think you were because I feel like
Speaker 2: you were kind of like you were coming into the
Speaker 2: game during the SoundCloud era and what I like to
Speaker 2: call the dark Ages of hip hop in terms of
Speaker 2: like some of the stuff that was getting signed and shit.
Speaker 2: You know, we think about some artists that pop in
Speaker 2: our heads when I say that, But like you were
Speaker 2: able to kind of like withstand that era, that era
Speaker 2: of music was was really there was some bad shit
Speaker 2: that was popping, and a lot of people were doing
Speaker 2: shit for like Instagram likes and clout and getting signed
Speaker 2: off of that shit, and you didn't really have a
Speaker 2: big public profile. You weren't doing like in person interviews
Speaker 2: like I like, you weren't like you didn't have that
Speaker 2: ANTIQ shit going on. Like did you ever like feel
Speaker 2: any pressure when you first got into the game, tore
Speaker 2: like I guess playing the circus with these other fucks. Hmm.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I thought maybe it might help me, you know,
Speaker 1: move the needle right and for this shit like that.
Speaker 1: But no, I'm never going to compromise who I am
Speaker 1: and do some sucker shit. I just I'd rather I'd
Speaker 1: rather be fucking number fucking twenty in the world, number
Speaker 1: forty in the world, number top one hundred in the world,
Speaker 1: right and remain like myself and true to myself and
Speaker 1: my morals, like you know what I mean, because that's
Speaker 1: still great. Like people expect everybody just to be number one,
Speaker 1: Like I'm cool being top one hundred, top of thousand
Speaker 1: cares like money, right, Like you're doing shows, people showing
Speaker 1: up to the shows, buying tickets. We having stuff. I'm happy.
Speaker 2: I think that's important too. Is like I always tell
Speaker 2: artists that, man, don't pocket watch. There's so many artists
Speaker 2: will pocket watch, and not even necessarily money, but just
Speaker 2: they'll look at what other artists are doing or other
Speaker 2: artists recognition, and then they get all self conscious about
Speaker 2: what they're doing, and it's like not not just do
Speaker 2: you right, and you your fans will appreciate that more
Speaker 2: than you trying to fucking.
Speaker 1: Do its like even like money, while I shit like that,
Speaker 1: like me and me even like I'm a producer, so
Speaker 1: I'm producing a lot of my own ship, so I'm
Speaker 1: getting the different kind of slice of the pot, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying on the good songs that it is.
Speaker 2: Are you able to like when you have like a
Speaker 2: budget for an album? I know some artists will have
Speaker 2: like a budget for producers. Do you like, like, are
Speaker 2: you taking out of you are you paying yourself out
Speaker 2: of your budget?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: For production?
Speaker 1: And I pay all my producers, well everybody, because I
Speaker 1: have respect for producers because I'm one of them. I
Speaker 1: know how it goes.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing that happens a lot of times.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how the loops, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: And then sometimes you'll see somebody will have a loop
Speaker 2: on a beat and then they get a little crazy.
Speaker 2: You start talking shit online, like bro the worst.
Speaker 1: One is and you use a loop from one guy
Speaker 1: and when it comes to clearing it, you find that
Speaker 1: there's four other guys that I was playing guitar and
Speaker 1: the cow bell on it, like, piss you off.
Speaker 2: Four guys did one loop.
Speaker 1: That's why I'd be talking everybody like make sure are
Speaker 1: you sure you did this by yourself? I'll be like
Speaker 1: before I even want to recorder, and now I'd be
Speaker 1: like making sure yeah.
Speaker 2: And like now, even with Splice, I feel like Spice
Speaker 2: has changed it so much because like, if you're just
Speaker 2: like scrolling through Splice, you could just fine, like, but
Speaker 2: then the shit that's on Splice, it's like I think
Speaker 2: when you do shit on Splice, right, isn't it royalty
Speaker 2: free if you use it? Yeah? No it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it is. You ever go on Spice?
Speaker 1: I tried it once? Yeah. Uh. Like me, I'll use
Speaker 1: like something like a Splice, but I use Arcade a
Speaker 1: little bit more because our kide is easier to like
Speaker 1: run to me but I still end up finding it,
Speaker 1: like finding myself taking the shit out or like barely
Speaker 1: leaving just a little vocal sample and the rest of
Speaker 1: it was like the always the first chords and the
Speaker 1: first ship that gets laid down the foundation is gonna
Speaker 1: be rob like me. And then I might add like
Speaker 1: a little vocal sample from a garcade or something in there,
Speaker 1: like drown it out. But I don't like to make
Speaker 1: anything that's like recognizable that you could find it. And
Speaker 1: they're like, how did you do this?
Speaker 2: Somebody?
Speaker 1: We know exactly what used this because I like that
Speaker 1: I pressed one button. Damn mad people's using this, I
Speaker 1: know right away.
Speaker 2: Have you ever gone on YouTube and just typed in
Speaker 2: nav type beats just to see what's on there.
Speaker 1: All the time? All the time?
Speaker 2: Ever? Any heat?
Speaker 1: Huh? Is ever? Any heat? Out of ten? To be honest,
Speaker 1: maybe one or two which is.
Speaker 2: Great, which is not bad because it was zero. Yeah zero.
Speaker 1: Some of them like, oh this is kind of fire.
Speaker 2: I'll do all the time, yeah, all the time. Do
Speaker 2: you ever do anything on a type beat nap time? No?
Speaker 1: I would, I would though if I if I vibe
Speaker 1: to it, for sure, I don't care. I'll find them
Speaker 1: in PIM.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dope. That's important. What made you kind of
Speaker 2: because when you first got into the game, like I said,
Speaker 2: like you were very like protective of your image and
Speaker 2: not necessarily like you didn't do any like any interviews
Speaker 2: you would do weren't on camera. What was the thought
Speaker 2: precess behind that and what kind of had you kind
Speaker 2: of like change that perspective and start just kind of
Speaker 2: getting out there more in terms of just throwing people
Speaker 2: who you were.
Speaker 1: I mean when I first met Cash, he just was
Speaker 1: looking at my Instagram on my phone. He's like, let
Speaker 1: me see it on YouTube, and he's like, are you
Speaker 1: attached to any of this stuff on here? Because the
Speaker 1: posts were in the post kind of whack right, And
Speaker 1: I'm like nah, And he's like cool, I'm just started
Speaker 1: leading shit. You're cool, Like yeah, we give shit, do
Speaker 1: whatever you want, man. You He deleted that ship and
Speaker 1: then literally like I had four thousand followers and like
Speaker 1: literally like after that, like the following weeks, I started
Speaker 1: blowing up so much and people had no idea. Then
Speaker 1: they'd have my old pictures be like, oh, this is him.
Speaker 1: They're like, no, it's not him.
Speaker 2: They was black.
Speaker 1: They thought I was this thought was that, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they're just working out. I don't know, shit, just worked out.
Speaker 1: But then I got really frustrated with Ship. And then
Speaker 1: one time I was in the club with Abel the weekend.
Speaker 1: I was in the club with him and and the
Speaker 1: manager owner of the club in Toronto screamed on me
Speaker 1: for smoking weed, Like screamed on me because yeah, and
Speaker 1: the security guard piece watched the whole thing go down,
Speaker 1: and and this is my first time ever going out
Speaker 1: with him, yeah, and he looked at it go down,
Speaker 1: and then he kind of went and told Abe what happened.
Speaker 1: He's like, what he said, what happened? He's I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: this guy told me not to smoke. He's like what
Speaker 1: the fuck. He's like, I'll kick everybody out of this
Speaker 1: club and will be the only one that will smoke.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, for real. He's like, you know what, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm tied to the Ship. He's like, if you do
Speaker 1: need to see who you are, takes a picture of
Speaker 1: me and post it on his Instagram like he's a
Speaker 1: real one.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it was like the
Speaker 1: great reveal, so I need did that. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, up now, oh shit, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So that was like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Yeah, yo,
Speaker 1: what was like?
Speaker 2: What was it like? Your dms had to be kind
Speaker 2: of crazy after that, just people being like, bro, what
Speaker 2: the fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's sick crazy.
Speaker 2: It's like, what's that show on that Nick Cannon's assuming
Speaker 2: people don't know the voice under the suit?
Speaker 1: And then I couldn't go back around the same people
Speaker 1: no more for a minute. I have to like go
Speaker 1: do my thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you guys any plans on uh going to
Speaker 2: uh this GNX tour in Toronto?
Speaker 1: I'm shore the mom in the city.
Speaker 2: Go check it out. It's gonna be crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think he's anything to worry about out there?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You love GNX great? Yes, yes, sure, yeah he's
Speaker 2: I think I think it's, in my opinion, his best
Speaker 2: album right now that it's sat with me. Yeah. Are
Speaker 2: you a big Kendrick guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I have my favorites from him?
Speaker 2: What you're like, because I feel like Kendrick has like
Speaker 2: the critical ship, which is like to Pimp a Butterfly,
Speaker 2: which is like, to me, like an art piece that
Speaker 2: aged so well. Obviously good kid Mad City. But I
Speaker 2: feel like gn X is like the Slaps in terms
Speaker 2: of like replayability.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like every music has its place, you know, right,
Speaker 1: Like like there's club records that I want to listen
Speaker 1: to when you're in the club in the party mood,
Speaker 1: but when I'm driving, I might listen to some nahs
Speaker 1: just you know, or just like some Kendred Like it's
Speaker 1: different even my music, like my last album, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a club album or a record type album.
Speaker 1: It's just some shit you drive to late night's just
Speaker 1: for the vibe.
Speaker 2: Like what's the best Shrewman music for you? I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say I'm gonna start at Taming Pala and Your Boy
Speaker 2: the Weekend.
Speaker 1: I'd say those are definitely good choices. Honestly, I'm not
Speaker 1: even being biased me, you know what I'm saying. Do
Speaker 1: you shreme out to your own shit? When I made
Speaker 1: the song need You, which is a song about extasy
Speaker 1: on my album and the ouch and everything, like we
Speaker 1: literally did true but I don't repeat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I found this like there's a have you heard
Speaker 2: of Mac DeMarco? No, So Mac de Marco is like
Speaker 2: this like white dude, he kind of looks like Chris
Speaker 2: but if you let himself go. But he's like this
Speaker 2: white dude in all his music videos are like fucking
Speaker 2: crazy bro like this fool's got like a dragon face
Speaker 2: in one of them. But I feel like his whole
Speaker 2: entire genre is like Mac de Marco. He's hardest fuck.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out.
Speaker 2: Great psilocybin music. Yeah, if you're fucking ever, like in
Speaker 2: a Coachella or Joshua Tree in a hot tub just
Speaker 2: throwing some yep, that's it. Yeah, you'll love it. Due cool. Uh.
Speaker 2: Any any new artists that you're fucking with, I feel
Speaker 2: like you got your ear to the street. Youre always
Speaker 2: work with new artists. Anybody you're you're rocking with right now?
Speaker 1: New you know obviously the Destroyed, Lonely Ken, Carson net Spend,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, My boy John Ross put
Speaker 1: me on, Put me on about that kid. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: if you name somebody, I'll probably be like, yeah, right
Speaker 1: now I'm drawing blanks. Anybody at LA name somebody. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: So many people in LA. They're amazing.
Speaker 1: Ship freaking O th Guiredo Britos a legend, you know,
Speaker 1: the blast Beano the shortlight Mafia dudes, I actually the
Speaker 1: short lines back together. Yeah, bum thing. I do it
Speaker 1: a long time ago.
Speaker 2: Oh g Z or Phoenix, oh.
Speaker 1: G Z Vancouver, and there was like yo, this o
Speaker 1: giz like he's in the club, like he's like besides
Speaker 1: your section. That him, Like yeo, who cares? Then we
Speaker 1: said what's up? And I was like, yo, guy's cool,
Speaker 1: Like no, he's the best.
Speaker 2: They're cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: A lot of people like all time great hip hop
Speaker 2: hair two had the same Like I told the other
Speaker 2: I said, were you able to cut your hairs?
Speaker 1: I seen him in the strip Cluver. Was that sounds
Speaker 1: a bit deep as fun Sam's? Yeah, that's one thing.
Speaker 1: I just seen him in the color Yo, great shot
Speaker 1: like Mafia.
Speaker 2: Have you had the hot wings and Sam's the hot
Speaker 2: wings the chicken wings of Sam's. No, I don't really
Speaker 2: like to eat in the strip clubs in LA really. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I eat in the strip clubs like Houston, Atlanta.
Speaker 2: The only one to eat at Sam's everything. You know
Speaker 2: that if you always ordering food that I noticed it
Speaker 2: is good. Foo, I'm gonna try it. But you're right,
Speaker 2: I think your first inclination. Miami's got good food too,
Speaker 2: if you go to Tutties and you get that fried lobster.
Speaker 1: You know you got crazy food. They got the best.
Speaker 1: Boobyock got crazy boo.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite Miami strip club?
Speaker 1: Boo Trap?
Speaker 2: For different reasons.
Speaker 1: Obviously, it's just how late it's opening. The vibe. It's
Speaker 1: like a club. Yeah, don't it's like just perverted vibes.
Speaker 1: Guys are sitting watching on the stage. Yeah, you'll get
Speaker 1: a little bit that perverted exactly. Yes, I like the
Speaker 1: ones where it is like a party. We just strip
Speaker 1: in the background type ship then all over the blaze. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a vibe.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Tutties just for the perverted.
Speaker 1: You want some Thailand ship, No, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: I just like to get the massage ladies.
Speaker 2: The new you'd be sitting there eating.
Speaker 1: No no, no, you're the new room guru, new guru.
Speaker 1: Somebody has to put that mixtape out, the new.
Speaker 2: Not me anyway. Look, the new album is out, man,
Speaker 2: it's dope.
Speaker 1: Uh. You got a lot of music. Witheo shot coming
Speaker 1: all the way. We did like three for this album.
Speaker 1: We'll see if we do another one, but I'm onto
Speaker 1: the next project. Trying to put someone out again, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean we had a gap between this one.
Speaker 1: More gaps, man, I'm trying to get your gap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what has been the coolest advice you've gotten?
Speaker 2: Being around like cash and and sal and and enabling
Speaker 2: those guys because obviously you know they're the biggest there is.
Speaker 2: So I can only imagine just.
Speaker 1: A lot of slogans, you know, yeah, like uh, you know,
Speaker 1: don't pocket watch, uh, don't dip your pen and company inc.
Speaker 1: A lot of ship you know what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 1: always a good the ones a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of ones in one liners that you'll
Speaker 1: never forget, never dip your.
Speaker 2: Pen in company inc. I like that, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Open for.
Speaker 1: Interpretation, Open for interpretation.
Speaker 2: If you're a club owner, don't fuck the bottle.
Speaker 1: Girls exactly exactly gets it.
Speaker 2: I do own a night club and we don't fuck
Speaker 2: the bottle girls.
Speaker 1: Good you can't. It's it's tough.
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, Noah, I appreciate you, brother man. The new
Speaker 2: album is out, everybody go support it, and uh, anything
Speaker 2: else you got coming on the way right now? No,
Speaker 2: no soon, though, Yeah, I feel like you should fucking
Speaker 2: you're funny dude man, Like now that you're like doing shit,
Speaker 2: like I feel like people are kind of seeing like
Speaker 2: you're like a fucking a fucking dude, you know, like
Speaker 2: a dude's dude.
Speaker 1: I'm just chilling. I don't know. Whatever the idea they
Speaker 1: had to me before, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Next time, we're bringing some white claws because we are
Speaker 2: white claw drinkers, and uh, we're gonna microdose to start
Speaker 2: the pod facts, Yes vibes for sure, my dog nap there.
Speaker 1: It is bouleg Cap Podcast boo