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Speaker 2: CAV Podcasts Bootleg CAV Show special guest. His new album

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Speaker 2: is officially out and it's crazy too. I just was

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Speaker 2: in the road trip from Phoenix to La bumping the

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Speaker 2: So welcome man. Good to see you, buddy. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: just talking about wrestling. H You were there when John

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Speaker 2: Cena did the heel turn in Toronto?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What was that like? In person?

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Speaker 1: It was fire because I could see the angle when

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Speaker 1: he was hugging Cody Rose and his face changed. I

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Speaker 1: could see that from where I was sitting. Yeah, his

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Speaker 1: face was like like if I was facing the other way.

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Speaker 2: I was like the rock had a spell on him. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I got to see like how it looked on TV. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a crazy experience.

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Speaker 2: Yea, I had to it was Are you like a

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Speaker 2: wrestling fan or were you? Just say it was in Toronto.

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Speaker 1: Growing up way more than now with the you guys.

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Speaker 1: But my friends who I played video games with, like

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Speaker 1: the WW. They got me back into.

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Speaker 2: It's a great game. It wasn't tap like a theme

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Speaker 2: song for a pay per view. Yeah yeah, I remember

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Speaker 2: tap back yo, y'all. X O boys just got the

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Speaker 2: WW sewed up cash Man. Cash got the biggest fan.

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Speaker 2: He is the biggest fan. I think the Weekend has

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Speaker 2: had like the theme song for many like six years

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Speaker 2: straight or something. Crazy. Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, No shout

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Speaker 2: outs to cash Man. He's and and he looks good too.

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Speaker 2: He's like he gotta be on keto or something. What's

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Speaker 2: going on with cash But he looked good.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying on the same program.

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Speaker 2: Last time I saw him, I was like, you're not

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Speaker 2: on a Osempic. He's like, nah, bro, this is all

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Speaker 2: like I'm working out and I'm eating right. It's true. Nah,

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Speaker 2: It's it's fire. How you feel, man, you got the

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Speaker 2: new body of workout. How's it feel feel relieved? You know?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I gave my Day One fans

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Speaker 1: everything they're asking for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I still think like my favorite project to

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Speaker 2: yours was your self titled Shit of Course, which is

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Speaker 2: so fire. It was also like you're most like, you know,

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Speaker 2: like drugged out album.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that shit was sick for sure.

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Speaker 2: But but but like, how long you've been working on

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Speaker 2: this on this project, It's obviously been some time, like

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Speaker 2: three years. Yeah, I feel like I feel like when

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Speaker 1: Even longer though, because some of the songs were older

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Speaker 1: songs where I just took the lyrics off the beat

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy too, because when you work on something

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Speaker 2: that long, I'm assuming like you could get demn itis

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Speaker 2: on Ship too every day where you're like, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: But demo demo itis, mixed itis every time of its

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like everything, Why my ad lits sound different on

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Speaker 2: How do you fight through it? Like you just there

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Speaker 2: is a collection of minds in the room. They're like

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Speaker 2: now like the OG version of this really is the ship.

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Speaker 1: Like there's certain tricks for certain things like Temple. I

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Speaker 1: have a trick for Temple, okay, which is if you

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Speaker 1: want to speed up a song, Oh man, I just

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Speaker 1: you speed it up really fast and then like speed

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Speaker 1: I gotta trick your brain. It's like if you're trying

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Speaker 2: Like it's a thing something like that. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: and then you're you're you're you're speeding up like the

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Speaker 2: temples of the songs. Yeah, it's interesting too because nowadays,

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Speaker 2: like you didn't do obviously a lot of artists will

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Speaker 2: in screwed version. Nowadays you get a sped up version

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Speaker 2: for TikTok She's Crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Some songs just sound cool like

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Speaker 2: But I just remember, like you know, fools would be

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Speaker 1: And shit and some times, man, everything's faster.

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Speaker 2: Was that shit? Every big in Toronto, like the Ahe

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Speaker 1: I mean if you're like a super fan of hip hop,

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Speaker 2: Right what uh? You know you obviously kind of got

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Speaker 2: a producer. How much of the production on this album

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Speaker 2: did you handle? I know metro Booman has his hands

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Speaker 1: Like on like a record like the metro boom in one,

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Speaker 1: that was like a beat made from scratch by me

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But all the music, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can't imagine. Like when you're a producer,

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Speaker 2: it's probably hard to give because you get gave the

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Speaker 2: reins up. You metro got crazy album together? Yeah classic.

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Speaker 2: Somebody say that's your bit bet sound, you know what

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Speaker 1: Like even that, like some people's favorite song on that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a collaboration.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yo, what can you speak back to because I feel

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Speaker 2: like the record that kind of changed your life and

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Speaker 2: or who you were as an artist was Beabs in

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Speaker 2: the Trap. How big of a moment was that for you?

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Speaker 2: Because I remember the video like it was kind of

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Speaker 2: like could you have such a distinct voice? And people

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Speaker 1: People really thought it was justin bieber m Beabs in

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Speaker 1: the Trap. Then Travis didn't list his features on the tracks,

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Speaker 1: and some people don't know who I was at all,

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Speaker 1: right when the album came out, I probably had like

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Speaker 1: maybe ten twenty thousand followers, maybe less, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's like it was like recognition that came

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Speaker 1: dropping like hello, like nobody's saying me up making this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Like was my top two or three record

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Speaker 2: on that album too? Right, Yeah, for sure. And then

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Speaker 2: you got I mean, are shooting the video helped too?

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Speaker 1: That helped you, yeah, because they're like, hey, it's me.

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Speaker 1: But even then they're like, who's that?

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Speaker 2: Are you aware? Like for a wave there, like like

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen eighteen, anybody who had your haircut had the

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Speaker 2: NAV cut. Like it became a.

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Speaker 1: Thing absolutely, Like I started seeing it a lot in

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Speaker 2: In Arizona, there were Mexicans who would have your haircut

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Speaker 2: and they would ask for the NAV.

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Speaker 1: No, but okay, that's cool. But there's another one that's

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Speaker 1: like more hair. The Edgars.

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Speaker 2: The Edgar it's you have definitely a version of the

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Speaker 2: way more. You gotta you have a Canadian Edgar like that.

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Speaker 1: It's way more hair. These guys got helmets on their head.

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Speaker 1: Edgars are crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You go to a knots Done

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Speaker 2: and the Wild dude they're wild. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You see some edgars in the wild, you'd be like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: they don't give a fuck about nothing. Yeah, they had

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Man yo for you man, Like, Uh,

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Speaker 2: it's been uh, it's been a pretty crazy year, uh

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Speaker 2: for the team obviously. Uh, the new weekend albums out?

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Speaker 2: Your album is out. What's the camaraderie like, you know,

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Speaker 2: you were at the Cardi show, cardies on your ship.

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Speaker 2: What's the camaraderie like with the XO team as a whole,

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Speaker 2: Because I feel like you guys have always kind of

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Speaker 1: I mean, ship it's just about like, you know, everybody

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Speaker 1: just it's like a family, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like the biggest dude will pick up garbage off the floor,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's like everybody's humble

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Speaker 1: and ground and from a similar background. So that's easy.

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Speaker 1: Now what Cardi is, We've been cool with him from

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Speaker 1: like way back. You know, It's like one of his

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Speaker 1: first shows in.

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Speaker 2: L A one time I got canceled or some shit

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Speaker 2: you ate the show got canceled or you guys got canceled.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, yeah now Cardi's a I mean you

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Speaker 2: saw the show.

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Speaker 1: It was wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so much fire.

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Speaker 1: But the one that we're talking about was like some

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Speaker 1: like basement blaze I forgot from underground shiit like that's

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Speaker 2: He is my favoriterapper of all time. We got my favorite.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, no, still Madic. I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: I have to finish up. And when I finished up,

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Speaker 2: So like when you would go there, you learn like

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Speaker 1: Pro tools, class SSL, yeah all that shit. Yeah damn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's why I did. I just I did

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five. How are you making beats? Is

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Speaker 1: Is it logic for melodies because the quantizer it just

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Speaker 2: People love Ableton, Like if you find somebody who loves Ableton,

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Speaker 1: So I'm about to have three programs under my belts

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Ableton's vibe. Talk to me about for you?

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Speaker 2: How much are you focused on? Like, like do you

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Speaker 2: are you sending beat packs out? Is that something that

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Speaker 1: Like uptil now? I haven't really been a beat pack

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Speaker 1: You know he's doing that from just me from my

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Speaker 1: because I just recently set up a studio in my

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Speaker 1: I got two set ups, a real studio and then

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Speaker 2: Well, then you gets your album out, so now it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I got all this shit. You probably probably sitting on

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Speaker 2: hell of shit, like how many You probably got a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff that didn't make the album too, A

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Speaker 1: I want to put the deluxe out, the one that

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Speaker 1: we sold on my site.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are you? I'm always always wondering when when you

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that happens all the time. Like I

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Speaker 1: On tap you know years later? Yeah? To be honest,

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Speaker 2: I think I remember seeing you when Nip did his

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Speaker 1: When he was here, Man, damn slow in Bucks. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. You know. He spent a lot of time

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going there, but I want to go

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Speaker 1: I fucked with re up with Belly. He's like, I

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Speaker 1: Know who I am is crazy. So Nip's like, yo,

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Speaker 1: come on, like come in the store. I went crazy,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's go smoke in the front kick doing it.

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Speaker 1: More than he's like, yo, let's get in the ATV.

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Speaker 1: Their bikes together. I'm like okay, and he's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: I started going yoh yeah, wait up away for Bucks

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Speaker 1: Nip always showed me love seeing him like multiple times

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Speaker 1: after that, always love. He is knowledge and recipes of

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Speaker 1: that man bro.

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Speaker 2: Great guy. Man, you're a shroom guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was hard on it before, but I've just slowed

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Speaker 2: hero's dose level of Like.

438
00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has. I feel like your tolerance goes up

439
00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,440
Speaker 1: the more you take it. So I did a rolling

440
00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,560
Speaker 1: loud back in Toronto when my album just dropped, and

441
00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,840
Speaker 1: I took over five grams in the studio.

442
00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's my sister start.

443
00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,520
Speaker 1: She has a fiance now, the one that lives in Toronto,

444
00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,200
Speaker 1: and she brought him to the studio because we're gonna

445
00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,080
Speaker 1: go together. And one of my sisters the show. This

446
00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,520
Speaker 1: guy couldn't believe what you were seeing. He was because

447
00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,960
Speaker 1: he never been around that kind of shit. So he

448
00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,560
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this guy just took all those shrooms

449
00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,399
Speaker 1: he just made three beats and now he's about to

450
00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,520
Speaker 1: go perform at Rolling Loud And when I was so

451
00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,840
Speaker 1: fried when I went on roll Out, but it was

452
00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,600
Speaker 1: like I was so used to it that like my

453
00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,040
Speaker 1: lyrics that I usually forget were like only a teleprompter

454
00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,840
Speaker 1: in my mind. And like when I when I went

455
00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,960
Speaker 1: on stage, I literally grabbed my sister. I was like,

456
00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,639
Speaker 1: looked at her eyes. I was like, watch this. And

457
00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,080
Speaker 1: then I went on stage and I was like performing

458
00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,880
Speaker 1: and celebrating at the same time because my album's outso

459
00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm just like it had to be the best shit ever.

460
00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,520
Speaker 1: It was the best performance I ever. Like, I don't

461
00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,920
Speaker 1: know if the crowd felt the same way, but I

462
00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,080
Speaker 1: felt like I was half for the best performance of

463
00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:50,680
Speaker 1: my whole life.

464
00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,800
Speaker 2: Yo. It's like shrews. Like if you take a ship

465
00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,520
Speaker 2: ton and you know, like you said, if you know

466
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,440
Speaker 2: what you're doing, you can like use him as a

467
00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,480
Speaker 2: super powerful That's.

468
00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,320
Speaker 1: The point I was taking them since they weren't working. Yeah,

469
00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,879
Speaker 1: I had to take so much. I took a hero

470
00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:02,719
Speaker 1: whole hero bar.

471
00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Belly gave me a book about uh, I forget

472
00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,680
Speaker 2: what it was called. It's at my house. I read

473
00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,879
Speaker 2: it it's about it's about it kind of like the

474
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,600
Speaker 2: whole whole books about this doctor wrote this book about

475
00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,520
Speaker 2: psilocybin therapy and shit. And I remember it goes one

476
00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,240
Speaker 2: time I was at Belly's house and you've probably seen

477
00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,280
Speaker 2: this thing. This motherfucker has this uh this thing with

478
00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,760
Speaker 2: sand on it and when you play the music that

479
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,880
Speaker 2: it makes fat yeah.

480
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,639
Speaker 1: And I was tripping the fuck out because I was like, this.

481
00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,520
Speaker 2: Is crazy, Like this is like music is real, Like

482
00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 2: it's tangible, like you could see the frequencies like with

483
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:35,960
Speaker 2: the sand.

484
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,560
Speaker 1: In some way or another. They say this, even this

485
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,600
Speaker 1: desk is made up of.

486
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,040
Speaker 2: Frequency, for sure. Have you had a bad trip though?

487
00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,719
Speaker 1: My first trip ever was about trip. My first trip ever,

488
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,639
Speaker 1: I was like eighteen years old and we did it

489
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,160
Speaker 1: with a couple of my little Indian homies. We did

490
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 1: it in Toronto and we we just had I had

491
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,320
Speaker 1: a horrible trip. And one thing I noticed was back

492
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 1: then I was running around with the wrong crowd, doing

493
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 1: the wrong things, feeling school Da da da da, and

494
00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,719
Speaker 1: my homie, who was like the weirdo and people made

495
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 1: fun of him kind of type shit, he was having

496
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,560
Speaker 1: a great trip and that kind of like taught me something.

497
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy just is himself all the time.

498
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,400
Speaker 1: So that's why I feel like you and I'm trying

499
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,480
Speaker 1: to be something. I'm not hanging out with the wrong

500
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 1: people doing the wrong things. And it really like when

501
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 1: I came out of that ship, I graduated high school,

502
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 1: switched up who I'm hanging out with. Everything went. So

503
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 1: it was a good trip technically it turned out to be,

504
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,440
Speaker 1: but the trip during it horrible, terrible. Every time I

505
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 1: closed my eyes, fib breathing and dragon coming at me.

506
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,359
Speaker 1: When I opened something bads happening everything. I couldn't get

507
00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 1: away from the ship. Have you done d MT? No, No,

508
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,359
Speaker 1: that's what I want to do that ship. But I'm

509
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,159
Speaker 1: hell scared, bro, think I'm ready. I feel like, once

510
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 1: you're spiritually balance, while you're sober, right, you can handle

511
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 1: all that shit.

512
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah you're you're you're pretty sober now, right.

513
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I smoked weed every day. But like in terms

514
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 1: of like, you know, the ship you were rapping about,

515
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 1: I'll tap into stuff, you know what I mean, Like

516
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 1: if it's like I'm in the studio.

517
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 2: For your all time best druggie rapper. By the way,

518
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 2: In terms of the subject subject matter, appreciated.

519
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: Those the drugs kids are I'll tap into some ship

520
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,199
Speaker 1: Like if I'm in the studio for two weeks, there

521
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: might be a day where we are dabbling something just

522
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 1: to get a different kind of vibe. Not every day, right,

523
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 1: that's just going to kill you.

524
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I feel like, you know, especially, I feel

525
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,400
Speaker 2: like when you get first got in the game, Fetanah

526
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't really like dang for real, you know, fast forward.

527
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 2: Now it's like you it's like you gotta get the

528
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,199
Speaker 2: drug testing kids and ship out.

529
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, even if you gotta trust the source and it

530
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 1: is good work, it's it no't matter that shit isn't

531
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 1: gonna work you eventually, for sure, eventually.

532
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 2: Even the weed now is fucking because they're spraying the well, no,

533
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 2: they're spraying weed with the turfs. It's it's like, what

534
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 2: are you even smoking in New York?

535
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 1: And New York is heavy right now?

536
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 2: In New York is bad.

537
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: Young dudes, the young dudes, they want that over the

538
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 1: regular weed. Yeah, because like you're like, give me the

539
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 1: shit with the turfs.

540
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 2: They're getting some bullshit packs from LA and then they

541
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 2: you know, they'll spruce them up.

542
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 1: So from week lemon cherry yeah, the Turfs on.

543
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Man, you're a big hockey fan growing

544
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 2: up more so ya is that just like because you're

545
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 2: from Canada, Because I don't get it.

546
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 1: Grew up playing and ship like Maple Leafs. Maple Leaves,

547
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,479
Speaker 1: they're the best they've ever been. But damn, bro, they

548
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 1: haven't got a Stanley Cupping sixty years or some shit.

549
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm just waiting on that.

550
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like, are you would you see a bigger

551
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: Raptors fan or Maple Leaves.

552
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 1: Fan Raptors fan, But I'm not gonna lie. Bandwagon the

553
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 1: Raptors this last championship. I was growing up and Vince

554
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: Carter and Tracy McGrady. Of course that was my favorite team.

555
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dunk Contest days were crazy. So before the

556
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 2: before you bandwagon the Raptors after they won with the

557
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 2: Kawhi thing where you like a fan of another random team. Curry, Oh, Steph,

558
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 2: you're just a bandwagon.

559
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, just Curry Curry. We've been seeing

560
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,959
Speaker 1: Curry how good he is back in the day when

561
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: he had Monte Ellis on the team. So if you

562
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: want to Andrew David Lee, he's playing a game and

563
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: Monte Ellis was a star. But when you passed the Curry,

564
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: he's hitting the threes. Likes just Curry, guys, Curry got

565
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: fire and we've watched him grow into who he is.

566
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I like Curry Curry for sure?

567
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: Have you uh if? I feel like obviously their hip

568
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: hop scene in India has been blowing up. Uh you

569
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 2: know it's like his own thing. Like how tapped in?

570
00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: Are you? Like?

571
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: Obviously you're huge here, but are you tapped in it all?

572
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 2: To like what was going on over there?

573
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: I know everything that's going on. I'm aware of everything

574
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: that is going on, but topped in as far as

575
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: like how many people have had many music with? Yeah,

576
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: only really EP Dyllans so far, and I plan on

577
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,239
Speaker 1: working with everybody if I can.

578
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the homies name? With the Big Dogs record?

579
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 2: I had him on Kine Uh wait a minute, get

580
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 2: what the fuck is?

581
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,479
Speaker 1: Oh? That's going I bumped into him actually in Thailand?

582
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: Well now, Thailand. Yeah, I was there, Yeah, yeah, we

583
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 2: didn't really I didn't see you there, but I was there. Yeah,

584
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 2: I was there for twelve days. How was your Thailand experience?

585
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 1: Its good? Was it nice? Nice? Good food? Yeah.

586
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 2: So good food, good food, good food. Did you just

587
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: stay in that area? Did you go to Bangkok Pataya

588
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 2: and then Bangkok Pattaya's got that street man.

589
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: The hotel is unbelievable to all that street we don't

590
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: that streets gets fishy, real fishy, man.

591
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, the street joints super fishy.

592
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, you can see them, they got you

593
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: can see them. Anybody who says they get tricked, they

594
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: didn't get tricked. Hell known, impossible, impossible.

595
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's a it's a great place, great food.

596
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: There's elephants too. You know, I ain't see the elephants

597
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 2: and tigers. I'm glad I ain't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

598
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: And they got a bootleg mall there. That's fucking crazy.

599
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: None. I went to a real mall. They felt like America,

600
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: five story fake mall. I would love to go there

601
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: just to see its fire.

602
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 2: All my kids got Travis Scott's that they don't know

603
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: are fake. My kids are running around with fake shooting.

604
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: I said, wait, how much of these?

605
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: I looked at him.

606
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: I said, oh no, we're doing this.

607
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: I had to buy a whole new suitcase just to

608
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: bring fake gifts back. Yeah, for sure.

609
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: It's good times.

610
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: Man.

611
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: Shout out to a shout out to uh, you know

612
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: Thailand and and and and and the hustlers out there.

613
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: Is there a tour coming absolutely as soon as we can.

614
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: Are you Are you already trying to figure out like

615
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: the date, like the dates.

616
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: I've been on, you know, my team about it having

617
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: like only starting this to announce and they're working on

618
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: it right now, so we'll get it.

619
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: Uh. Did you go to Coachella last weekend?

620
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: No?

621
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you were the kind of guy

622
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: to be at every fest. I feel like at Coachella

623
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: you'd see nap backstage. Really, I don't know, it just

624
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: feels like your kind of thing. You're going this weekend?

625
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: N I don't know why.

626
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: I just don't feel like when this year. Maybe because

627
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: it's fucking in the middle of the desert and I

628
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: have been so many times. It's like how many times

629
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: do you need to fucking go to understand what the happening?

630
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and last year I was performing, so it was

631
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: more lit.

632
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: You know, talk about your uh, your just chemistry with

633
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 2: a guy like metro Booman, who you know is one

634
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: of the greatest producers. If not at this point fuck.

635
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: I think he's got the best producer album ever, Heroes

636
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 2: and Villains a classic. But uh, what y'all's like chemistry?

637
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: Like in the studio, how'd you guys kind of hone in.

638
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: And Cash put us together at first like a lot

639
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: of people, but just genuine relationships my brother and my friend,

640
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: my dog, you know, and and and then on top

641
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: of we we both make beats, both make music, so

642
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: it's just easy. I don't know, like I haven't worked

643
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: on them in a long time since Perfect. And then

644
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: the day that we finally sat down and locked in

645
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: for this album, it was just flowing, like just like

646
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: back in the day no Time Lost. We did like

647
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: four three four songs in the night.

648
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy too, because like I feel like you

649
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: got to kind of have a different approach when you

650
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: worked on Perfect timing where you're doing like a full

651
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: collaborative album with somebody. Did y'all know that told you

652
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: but you guys were going to do it? Did it

653
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: just happened where it was like, damn, we got like

654
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of joints. Then we might as well make

655
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: this ship a project.

656
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: We knew we're gonna do a project called Perfect timing,

657
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: and we knew we were working on it, and then

658
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: there'll be like La sessions. Then he'd traveled to go

659
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: do something untravelable something, and then we where we really

660
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: locked in was in Atlanta at I can't remember the

661
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: studios name, but it's far out in the bluffs. That's

662
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: what we locked in through.

663
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: A great album Part two one day. I know, God

664
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: bless for sure. You do a lot of video gaming too, Yeah,

665
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: what's your what's your go to games? Right now?

666
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: I played the Weirdest Ship, like I played Call of Duty.

667
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: Obviously I play sports games and stuff, But right now

668
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm playing Schedule at one of it and playing Billatrot

669
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: is a card game that's really popular. Schedule one. You're

670
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: playing a drug dealing game, like you literally could sell

671
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: anything on PlayStation. No, it's on Steam, like you know,

672
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: like on the oh yeah, the app. Yeah, it's the

673
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: biggest game on it right now. I think like most

674
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: highest rat is it like some grand theft auto ship bro. No,

675
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: it's like shitty graphics but good concept.

676
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: So you're like a drug dealer.

677
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make you can sell we you can sell dope.

678
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: You just gotta you gotta have your workers to work

679
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: and have plants and set up lights and all that

680
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: and like have a like, oh so you can set

681
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: up like a grow a packaging station. It's like mad intricate,

682
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: you know what I.

683
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: Mean, What the fuck? And you're doing streaming and all

684
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 2: that too?

685
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: Nah, no, no, I did the other day I played

686
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: Call of Duty with Biffle on streamed.

687
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: Do you feel, like, how do you feel about the whole?

688
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: I feel like the streaming shit's kind of cool, Like

689
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: for the most part, it feels like, you know, I

690
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: think guy's like a like super cool, like DDG is

691
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: doing this thing. Some of these guys are a little

692
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: corny to be honest, But how do you feel about it?

693
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: Because it feels like that's kind of the new media,

694
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: like the streaming guy.

695
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think things us evolve, you know, yeah,

696
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: and it's either you get with the times or you

697
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: just get left in the dust. And it's like what

698
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: they're doing is cool. I just don't know about it

699
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: for me and my brain, you know what I mean.

700
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: But what they're doing is cool and it does well.

701
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of them have cool personalities.

702
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I went on DDG stream and I was

703
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: helling nervous because I was like whatever I say, Oh,

704
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: that's it. It's like not coming down, that's it. You

705
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: gotta have pr training for real for sure, and they'll

706
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: clip the fuck out of here. Dude. They clipped everything

707
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: like him and I just started having a conversation about

708
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: like my pizza restaurant and ship, and then like it

709
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: turned into some other ship and then I had to

710
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: stop and be like, oh shit, like there's like cameras

711
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: on the walls and.

712
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: Because like farming now they call it or off farming,

713
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: clip farming.

714
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: Dude, the clip farming. Yeah, no, it's wild. It's almost

715
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: like that's the whole point of streaming is like how

716
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: are we gonna just fucking We got to give these

717
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: clippers some ship.

718
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: Now, when I was with Neon like off camera like before,

719
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 1: like he's super cool, he was. We were in New

720
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: York and we're doing other things and I just seen

721
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: him were his head's as streaming like that shit is

722
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: stress for sure. He's like, how can we make contact

723
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: out of the content out of this? And then next thing,

724
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: why are you think about your head? Is how can

725
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: we get a clip? How can we get something?

726
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: Yo? Let's go run around the projects with Jim Jones.

727
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: Ye see what happens.

728
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: He's had a video shoot with us that ship. It

729
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: wasn't strong enough content, Yea, it wasn't insane bro, Like, yo, man,

730
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: this shit's got to be a little more crazy. Does

731
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: anybody any guns? Right? Shout out to the streamers, Man,

732
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: I get it. Nobody's crazy. It's like it's like not sustainable.

733
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 2: I feel like long term, yeah, because it's like if

734
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: you're Neon and you're like thirty five, at one point

735
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: you're like, damn, I still trying to run around and

736
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: chase like moments.

737
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like hip hop too.

738
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 2: It is, Yep, it is. It's like the SoundCloud era

739
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: but for content makers right now, man.

740
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: And that audience is very like chew you up and

741
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: spit you out quick.

742
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: How do you think you were because I feel like

743
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: you were kind of like you were coming into the

744
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: game during the SoundCloud era and what I like to

745
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: call the dark Ages of hip hop in terms of

746
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: like some of the stuff that was getting signed and shit.

747
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: You know, we think about some artists that pop in

748
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: our heads when I say that, But like you were

749
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: able to kind of like withstand that era, that era

750
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: of music was was really there was some bad shit

751
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: that was popping, and a lot of people were doing

752
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: shit for like Instagram likes and clout and getting signed

753
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: off of that shit, and you didn't really have a

754
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: big public profile. You weren't doing like in person interviews

755
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: like I like, you weren't like you didn't have that

756
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: ANTIQ shit going on. Like did you ever like feel

757
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: any pressure when you first got into the game, tore

758
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: like I guess playing the circus with these other fucks. Hmm.

759
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes I thought maybe it might help me, you know,

760
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: move the needle right and for this shit like that.

761
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: But no, I'm never going to compromise who I am

762
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: and do some sucker shit. I just I'd rather I'd

763
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: rather be fucking number fucking twenty in the world, number

764
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: forty in the world, number top one hundred in the world,

765
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: right and remain like myself and true to myself and

766
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: my morals, like you know what I mean, because that's

767
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 1: still great. Like people expect everybody just to be number one,

768
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm cool being top one hundred, top of thousand

769
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: cares like money, right, Like you're doing shows, people showing

770
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: up to the shows, buying tickets. We having stuff. I'm happy.

771
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: I think that's important too. Is like I always tell

772
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: artists that, man, don't pocket watch. There's so many artists

773
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: will pocket watch, and not even necessarily money, but just

774
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: they'll look at what other artists are doing or other

775
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: artists recognition, and then they get all self conscious about

776
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: what they're doing, and it's like not not just do

777
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: you right, and you your fans will appreciate that more

778
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: than you trying to fucking.

779
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: Do its like even like money, while I shit like that,

780
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: like me and me even like I'm a producer, so

781
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm producing a lot of my own ship, so I'm

782
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: getting the different kind of slice of the pot, you

783
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying on the good songs that it is.

784
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: Are you able to like when you have like a

785
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: budget for an album? I know some artists will have

786
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: like a budget for producers. Do you like, like, are

787
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 2: you taking out of you are you paying yourself out

788
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: of your budget?

789
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: No?

790
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: For production?

791
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: And I pay all my producers, well everybody, because I

792
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: have respect for producers because I'm one of them. I

793
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: know how it goes.

794
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: And that's the thing that happens a lot of times.

795
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how the loops, you know what

796
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean.

797
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: And then sometimes you'll see somebody will have a loop

798
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: on a beat and then they get a little crazy.

799
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: You start talking shit online, like bro the worst.

800
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: One is and you use a loop from one guy

801
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: and when it comes to clearing it, you find that

802
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: there's four other guys that I was playing guitar and

803
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: the cow bell on it, like, piss you off.

804
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: Four guys did one loop.

805
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: That's why I'd be talking everybody like make sure are

806
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: you sure you did this by yourself? I'll be like

807
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: before I even want to recorder, and now I'd be

808
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: like making sure yeah.

809
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: And like now, even with Splice, I feel like Spice

810
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: has changed it so much because like, if you're just

811
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: like scrolling through Splice, you could just fine, like, but

812
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: then the shit that's on Splice, it's like I think

813
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: when you do shit on Splice, right, isn't it royalty

814
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: free if you use it? Yeah? No it is. Yeah,

815
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it is. You ever go on Spice?

816
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: I tried it once? Yeah. Uh. Like me, I'll use

817
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: like something like a Splice, but I use Arcade a

818
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: little bit more because our kide is easier to like

819
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: run to me but I still end up finding it,

820
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: like finding myself taking the shit out or like barely

821
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: leaving just a little vocal sample and the rest of

822
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: it was like the always the first chords and the

823
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: first ship that gets laid down the foundation is gonna

824
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: be rob like me. And then I might add like

825
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: a little vocal sample from a garcade or something in there,

826
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: like drown it out. But I don't like to make

827
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: anything that's like recognizable that you could find it. And

828
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: they're like, how did you do this?

829
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: Somebody?

830
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: We know exactly what used this because I like that

831
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: I pressed one button. Damn mad people's using this, I

832
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: know right away.

833
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: Have you ever gone on YouTube and just typed in

834
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: nav type beats just to see what's on there.

835
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: All the time? All the time?

836
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: Ever? Any heat?

837
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: Huh? Is ever? Any heat? Out of ten? To be honest,

838
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: maybe one or two which is.

839
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: Great, which is not bad because it was zero. Yeah zero.

840
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: Some of them like, oh this is kind of fire.

841
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: I'll do all the time, yeah, all the time. Do

842
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: you ever do anything on a type beat nap time? No?

843
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: I would, I would though if I if I vibe

844
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: to it, for sure, I don't care. I'll find them

845
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: in PIM.

846
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dope. That's important. What made you kind of

847
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: because when you first got into the game, like I said,

848
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: like you were very like protective of your image and

849
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: not necessarily like you didn't do any like any interviews

850
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: you would do weren't on camera. What was the thought

851
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: precess behind that and what kind of had you kind

852
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: of like change that perspective and start just kind of

853
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: getting out there more in terms of just throwing people

854
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 2: who you were.

855
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: I mean when I first met Cash, he just was

856
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: looking at my Instagram on my phone. He's like, let

857
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: me see it on YouTube, and he's like, are you

858
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: attached to any of this stuff on here? Because the

859
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: posts were in the post kind of whack right, And

860
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm like nah, And he's like cool, I'm just started

861
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: leading shit. You're cool, Like yeah, we give shit, do

862
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: whatever you want, man. You He deleted that ship and

863
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: then literally like I had four thousand followers and like

864
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: literally like after that, like the following weeks, I started

865
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: blowing up so much and people had no idea. Then

866
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: they'd have my old pictures be like, oh, this is him.

867
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: They're like, no, it's not him.

868
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: They was black.

869
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: They thought I was this thought was that, I'm like,

870
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: they're just working out. I don't know, shit, just worked out.

871
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: But then I got really frustrated with Ship. And then

872
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: one time I was in the club with Abel the weekend.

873
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: I was in the club with him and and the

874
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: manager owner of the club in Toronto screamed on me

875
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: for smoking weed, Like screamed on me because yeah, and

876
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: the security guard piece watched the whole thing go down,

877
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: and and this is my first time ever going out

878
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: with him, yeah, and he looked at it go down,

879
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: and then he kind of went and told Abe what happened.

880
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: He's like, what he said, what happened? He's I'm like, yo,

881
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: this guy told me not to smoke. He's like what

882
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: the fuck. He's like, I'll kick everybody out of this

883
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: club and will be the only one that will smoke.

884
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: And I'm like, for real. He's like, you know what, Bro,

885
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm tied to the Ship. He's like, if you do

886
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: need to see who you are, takes a picture of

887
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: me and post it on his Instagram like he's a

888
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: real one.

889
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: Bro.

890
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it was like the

891
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: great reveal, so I need did that. I was like,

892
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: oh shit, up now, oh shit, you know what I mean?

893
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: So that was like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Yeah, yo,

894
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: what was like?

895
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: What was it like? Your dms had to be kind

896
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: of crazy after that, just people being like, bro, what

897
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: the fuck? Yeah?

898
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's sick crazy.

899
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: It's like, what's that show on that Nick Cannon's assuming

900
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 2: people don't know the voice under the suit?

901
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: And then I couldn't go back around the same people

902
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: no more for a minute. I have to like go

903
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: do my thing.

904
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you guys any plans on uh going to

905
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: uh this GNX tour in Toronto?

906
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm shore the mom in the city.

907
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: Go check it out. It's gonna be crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

908
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: Do you think he's anything to worry about out there?

909
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: I don't know.

910
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. You love GNX great? Yes, yes, sure, yeah he's

911
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: I think I think it's, in my opinion, his best

912
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: album right now that it's sat with me. Yeah. Are

913
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: you a big Kendrick guy?

914
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? I have my favorites from him?

915
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: What you're like, because I feel like Kendrick has like

916
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: the critical ship, which is like to Pimp a Butterfly,

917
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: which is like, to me, like an art piece that

918
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: aged so well. Obviously good kid Mad City. But I

919
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: feel like gn X is like the Slaps in terms

920
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: of like replayability.

921
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like every music has its place, you know, right,

922
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: Like like there's club records that I want to listen

923
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: to when you're in the club in the party mood,

924
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: but when I'm driving, I might listen to some nahs

925
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: just you know, or just like some Kendred Like it's

926
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: different even my music, like my last album, I don't

927
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: think it's a club album or a record type album.

928
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: It's just some shit you drive to late night's just

929
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: for the vibe.

930
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: Like what's the best Shrewman music for you? I'm gonna

931
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: say I'm gonna start at Taming Pala and Your Boy

932
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: the Weekend.

933
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: I'd say those are definitely good choices. Honestly, I'm not

934
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: even being biased me, you know what I'm saying. Do

935
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: you shreme out to your own shit? When I made

936
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: the song need You, which is a song about extasy

937
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: on my album and the ouch and everything, like we

938
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: literally did true but I don't repeat.

939
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I found this like there's a have you heard

940
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: of Mac DeMarco? No, So Mac de Marco is like

941
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: this like white dude, he kind of looks like Chris

942
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: but if you let himself go. But he's like this

943
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: white dude in all his music videos are like fucking

944
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 2: crazy bro like this fool's got like a dragon face

945
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: in one of them. But I feel like his whole

946
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: entire genre is like Mac de Marco. He's hardest fuck.

947
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out.

948
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: Great psilocybin music. Yeah, if you're fucking ever, like in

949
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: a Coachella or Joshua Tree in a hot tub just

950
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: throwing some yep, that's it. Yeah, you'll love it. Due cool. Uh.

951
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: Any any new artists that you're fucking with, I feel

952
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: like you got your ear to the street. Youre always

953
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: work with new artists. Anybody you're you're rocking with right now?

954
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: New you know obviously the Destroyed, Lonely Ken, Carson net Spend,

955
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, My boy John Ross put

956
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: me on, Put me on about that kid. Yeah, Like,

957
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: if you name somebody, I'll probably be like, yeah, right

958
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: now I'm drawing blanks. Anybody at LA name somebody. I

959
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: don't know.

960
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: So many people in LA. They're amazing.

961
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: Ship freaking O th Guiredo Britos a legend, you know,

962
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: the blast Beano the shortlight Mafia dudes, I actually the

963
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: short lines back together. Yeah, bum thing. I do it

964
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: a long time ago.

965
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: Oh g Z or Phoenix, oh.

966
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: G Z Vancouver, and there was like yo, this o

967
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: giz like he's in the club, like he's like besides

968
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: your section. That him, Like yeo, who cares? Then we

969
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: said what's up? And I was like, yo, guy's cool,

970
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: Like no, he's the best.

971
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: They're cool.

972
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

973
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 2: A lot of people like all time great hip hop

974
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: hair two had the same Like I told the other

975
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: I said, were you able to cut your hairs?

976
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: I seen him in the strip Cluver. Was that sounds

977
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: a bit deep as fun Sam's? Yeah, that's one thing.

978
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: I just seen him in the color Yo, great shot

979
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: like Mafia.

980
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: Have you had the hot wings and Sam's the hot

981
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: wings the chicken wings of Sam's. No, I don't really

982
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: like to eat in the strip clubs in LA really. Yeah.

983
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: I eat in the strip clubs like Houston, Atlanta.

984
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: The only one to eat at Sam's everything. You know

985
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: that if you always ordering food that I noticed it

986
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: is good. Foo, I'm gonna try it. But you're right,

987
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: I think your first inclination. Miami's got good food too,

988
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: if you go to Tutties and you get that fried lobster.

989
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: You know you got crazy food. They got the best.

990
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: Boobyock got crazy boo.

991
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: What's your favorite Miami strip club?

992
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: Boo Trap?

993
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: For different reasons.

994
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: Obviously, it's just how late it's opening. The vibe. It's

995
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: like a club. Yeah, don't it's like just perverted vibes.

996
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: Guys are sitting watching on the stage. Yeah, you'll get

997
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: a little bit that perverted exactly. Yes, I like the

998
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: ones where it is like a party. We just strip

999
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: in the background type ship then all over the blaze. Yes,

1000
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: it's a vibe.

1001
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Tutties just for the perverted.

1002
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: You want some Thailand ship, No, no, no, no no,

1003
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: I just like to get the massage ladies.

1004
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: The new you'd be sitting there eating.

1005
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: No no, no, you're the new room guru, new guru.

1006
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: Somebody has to put that mixtape out, the new.

1007
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: Not me anyway. Look, the new album is out, man,

1008
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 2: it's dope.

1009
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: Uh. You got a lot of music. Witheo shot coming

1010
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: all the way. We did like three for this album.

1011
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: We'll see if we do another one, but I'm onto

1012
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: the next project. Trying to put someone out again, Yeah,

1013
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: because I mean we had a gap between this one.

1014
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: More gaps, man, I'm trying to get your gap. Yeah,

1015
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: what has been the coolest advice you've gotten?

1016
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: Being around like cash and and sal and and enabling

1017
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: those guys because obviously you know they're the biggest there is.

1018
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: So I can only imagine just.

1019
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: A lot of slogans, you know, yeah, like uh, you know,

1020
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: don't pocket watch, uh, don't dip your pen and company inc.

1021
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: A lot of ship you know what I'm saying. That's

1022
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: always a good the ones a lot of a lot

1023
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: of a lot of ones in one liners that you'll

1024
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: never forget, never dip your.

1025
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: Pen in company inc. I like that, you know what

1026
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Open for.

1027
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: Interpretation, Open for interpretation.

1028
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: If you're a club owner, don't fuck the bottle.

1029
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: Girls exactly exactly gets it.

1030
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: I do own a night club and we don't fuck

1031
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: the bottle girls.

1032
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: Good you can't. It's it's tough.

1033
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, Noah, I appreciate you, brother man. The new

1034
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: album is out, everybody go support it, and uh, anything

1035
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: else you got coming on the way right now? No,

1036
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: no soon, though, Yeah, I feel like you should fucking

1037
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 2: you're funny dude man, Like now that you're like doing shit,

1038
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: like I feel like people are kind of seeing like

1039
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: you're like a fucking a fucking dude, you know, like

1040
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: a dude's dude.

1041
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: I'm just chilling. I don't know. Whatever the idea they

1042
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: had to me before, I don't know.

1043
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: Next time, we're bringing some white claws because we are

1044
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: white claw drinkers, and uh, we're gonna microdose to start

1045
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: the pod facts, Yes vibes for sure, my dog nap there.

1046
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: It is bouleg Cap Podcast boo