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Speaker 1: on Sunday night with Colin. So excited for that. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: And Cavino's story of working at the radio station Howard

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Speaker 1: One thing I want to hit on is I watch

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett with Rich eisen So after his trade request

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Speaker 1: and then him talking about it. I thought he did

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Speaker 1: it in a really, really level headed way, and like

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Speaker 1: I think it's at this time, like if you're Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: I think he just trade him. I think the time

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Speaker 1: is now. I think he's handling it in a very

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Speaker 1: mature way. I think he was smart to handle it

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Speaker 1: that way. Basically put out like come get me guys.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you start calling them, because if I do

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Speaker 1: not put out there, they're not going to put it out.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Cleveland only has themselves to blame, like

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Speaker 1: they were out of the Deshaun Watson business. This all

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Speaker 1: gets back to them for him, and I think anytime,

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Speaker 1: you know what Miles Garrett is saying without saying, this

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Speaker 1: franchise is fucked and I want no part of it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be part of this team with

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Speaker 1: this elephant in the room, with this contract. It's an

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Speaker 1: anchor on our franchise and there is no way out

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Speaker 1: no matter what we do. Even if we draft a

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Speaker 1: quarterback at number two, the likelihood that it's going to

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Speaker 1: be c. J. Stroud is probably not that high. It's

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Speaker 1: more likely than it looks like a lot of these quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: it's a struggle for them as a rookie. So like

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Speaker 1: sometimes you see Max Crosby's tunes change a little bit,

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Speaker 1: like it he goes back and forth because I think

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Speaker 1: at Max Crosby's core, he wants to win and he

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Speaker 1: wants it to be in Ink or Vegas. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think at Miles Garrett's core, he just knows, like this,

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Speaker 1: this is not a play. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you know, Max is gonna be able to realize that,

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Speaker 1: especially this year, like more than likely the Raiders aren't

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Speaker 1: gonna be good this year, and he's gonna continue wasting

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Speaker 1: years in his prime. Like I wouldn't fault Max either

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Speaker 1: if he did the same thing, which I don't expect

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Speaker 1: him to do now that Pete Carroll's there. But like

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Speaker 1: I never have a problem with a guy requesting a

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Speaker 1: trade if they've been there for a long time and

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Speaker 1: they've produced. You know, I have a problem when guys

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Speaker 1: request the trade. It's like they're in there like second year.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, there's now competition in the wide receiver room.

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Speaker 1: It's like, suck it up, bro, you're not Jerry Rice.

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Speaker 1: Calm down, you know, but this guy has given you

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Speaker 1: eight nine years. He's been an All Pro Pro bowler

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Speaker 1: for six seven straight. He just was a Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year. Like there's nothing else. He plays his

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Speaker 1: balls off, Like what else do you want out of

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Speaker 1: the guy? He's given you all he has. And I

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Speaker 1: think anytime that you kind of put all your chips

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the table and you you know,

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Speaker 1: you give it all, whether it's to a personal relationship,

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Speaker 1: whether it's to a professional relationship, and you get to

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Speaker 1: a point where, yeah, this isn't gonna work. And I

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Speaker 1: think most of us, I get to speak for myself

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Speaker 1: because I maybe we're all different. You know, some people

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Speaker 1: it more. I'm always and I've always been and still

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Speaker 1: I'm a feel guy. I know, like I just have

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Speaker 1: people need to validate it by something tangible on paper

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Speaker 1: or tangible on an Excel spreadsheet. But it's pretty clear,

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Speaker 1: like Miles Garrett understands where this franchise is at and

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Speaker 1: it's not going to change. Uh, Okay, how about my

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Speaker 1: there is no hotter city. Literally, it was seventy five

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Speaker 1: But when I see seventy five degrees and it's February third,

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Speaker 1: I don't expect humidity. So when you get out of

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Speaker 1: the plane, it's like legitimately humid. I mean today walking

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Speaker 1: around like I was sweating. I was like, God, this

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Speaker 1: is brutal. But that city is made for the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: There are certain places that are made to host the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, like in theory, like, oh, Los Angeles not

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Speaker 1: a great super Bowl city. It's really spread out, doesn't

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Speaker 1: really work. You go, well, Scottsdale. Scottsdale is pretty cool,

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Speaker 1: but where everything is in Old Town is forty five

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Speaker 1: like this. I've talked to my buddies with the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: They are gonna walk from their hotel to the on

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Speaker 1: walking distance. It is Taylor made to host these events,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's perfect that when the Kanseye Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are trying to become the most historic team in the

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Speaker 1: history league. No team has ever won three straight Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Are they the best team of all time? We can

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Speaker 1: debate that till the cows come home. Do they have

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Speaker 1: the best roster of all time? Obviously not, But I

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Speaker 1: do believe this. If they win this super Bowl in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, no one's ever doing that again, no one's

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Speaker 1: ever winning three Super Bowls. I don't even think I'd

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Speaker 1: be shocked non Chiefs if a team ever went to

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Speaker 1: three straight Super Bowls. Again. It's just very, very difficult

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Speaker 1: in this salary cap league because typically during that time

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Speaker 1: you would have to pay some players and then you

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Speaker 1: have to get rid of your roster dramatically changes. Somehow,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs were able to change their roster and trade

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, who's like one of the great wide receivers

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Speaker 1: in the history of league, and still be awesome. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's awesome that they're doing it New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: that place. If you told me the Super Bowl it

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Speaker 1: Or if he just told me it was a two

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Speaker 1: because I was I was asking someone this, It's like,

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Speaker 1: wasn't the stadium kind of old and not? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: not great, but who cares. It's not even about the stadium.

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Speaker 1: That's not super Bowl Week. Super Bowl Week is about

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Speaker 1: with New Orleans is like it's got something for everybody.

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Speaker 1: If you want to rage, go to Bourbon Street and

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Speaker 1: that place is jumping. If you just want to go

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Speaker 1: Canal Street. They are just restaurants everywhere. They're like, this

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Speaker 1: place is sweet, this place is sweet. I asked a

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Speaker 1: They're like, well, this one, this one, this one, this one.

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Speaker 1: They're all five minutes away. There's a casino, multiple casinos downtown. Like,

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Speaker 1: this is a heaven. This is awesome. So props a

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Speaker 1: New wor Orleans. You talk about a city that is

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Speaker 1: literally and figuratively hot right now. It is just a perfect,

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Speaker 1: is a uh, this is bittersweet. This is bittersweet. I

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Speaker 1: got my man Stucky just in the in the trenches

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Speaker 1: of Lexington. You you Heathen's Buddha man. He gave you

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Speaker 1: fifteen years, won a title and he did it classy

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Speaker 1: and he still beat you. I was there.

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Speaker 2: But how cool was that? Yeah? It was an electric amature.

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Speaker 2: It was funny. They talk John cal Party of Kentucky

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Speaker 2: by the way, Yeah they were, ah, yeah, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of booze. My I went with my one.

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Speaker 1: Of those one of those games where it's just packed

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes before.

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Speaker 2: Huh yep, even but both prior to that. But they

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Speaker 2: always give you bottles of beer at Rup but they

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Speaker 2: had all the workers pouring beers into cups, which is

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Speaker 2: very annoying for them. At full Stadium, it was a

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Speaker 2: cal Party request. He requested no bottles. I guess he

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Speaker 2: was afraid that people were gonna throw bottles.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they would have? Honestly, I mean no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. That seems crazy.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I got kind of contentious at the end

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Speaker 2: with some of the players and the fans. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: disappointing game for Kentucky fans. But uh yeah it was

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Speaker 2: not not not the best game for Kentucky. So we'll

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Speaker 2: see if they can bounce back. But yeah, last until August.

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Speaker 2: Kind of sad, it really is.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this early of the week, so obviously things

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Speaker 1: I was talking to a buddy on the Chiefs. You know,

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Speaker 1: once you get to the site, the practices aren't exactly

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Speaker 1: you know. I think they have intense practices usually last

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Speaker 1: week where some pads get sweat. This is more you know,

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Speaker 1: midway walk through. And if you look at these teams, right,

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Speaker 1: they both I mean they had a lot of veteran players.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles got some influx of young guys. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs have younger players. But it's like I remember

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Speaker 1: last year, I was in Vegas and I went out

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00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: with one of my buddies on the scouting staff and

641
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, what's crazy, He's like, And that

642
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: was before they had won the game, but they were

643
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: about to win the game. Like think about Karlovskis and McDuffie.

644
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: Who were they trade Tyreek Hill, they use their two

645
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: first round picks, they trade up, they get McDuffie. They

646
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: actually do a trade with with Belichick to get Carl

647
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: All those two guys know. They're two times Super Bowl champs.

648
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: They've been in the league just their third year, They've

649
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: won two rings, and they are favored to win their

650
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: third straight.

651
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: I mean that's I mean, like Joe.

652
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: Montana, you know, me and Joe Green, like the history

653
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: of the like no one can even relate to the

654
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: life they're leading.

655
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: And Patrick Mahomes can't relate to the life they're leading.

656
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: They're living good, bro, It's insane.

657
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: They're living good. I've already I saw you during pebble

658
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: Bee's tweet out some live wagers, your boy. You know,

659
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: I put in like a thousand bucks and I spread

660
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: it around and I put a little on Rory before

661
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: fourteen to one.

662
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: So I hit that.

663
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: I got a little, I got a little action. I've

664
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: already placed Kelsey Jalen same game parlay to both score.

665
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: I guess we have to just talk about the big

666
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: picture game before we get into all the props. I mean,

667
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: I've learned my lesson betting against Kansas City, though, I

668
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: do think, you know, if you just look at their

669
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: last two games, I think this Eagles team is definitely

670
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: better than the last two teams they beat. But I'm

671
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: not trying to justify or figure this out. Once your

672
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: Ravens two years ago lost that game, it's like, I'm

673
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: just not betting against this team.

674
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: I've learned my lesson.

675
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: I just bet on the football gods taking them out

676
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen the Bills that didn't happen. I heard

677
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: a stat from cousin sal that, you know, if you

678
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: like the favor to win, like they usually cover, I

679
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: think like a large percentage of the teams the last

680
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: of the last like fifteen years. It was just the Rams.

681
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: I think it was a close game, but other than that,

682
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: like the favors, favorites just cover. So if you like

683
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: Kansas City obviously just just hammered one and a half,

684
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: which is what they were just last week, and they

685
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: hammered that pretty easily, I guess, not super easily. But

686
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: I just think, how do you bet.

687
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: Against the Chiefs.

688
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's just when you look at it,

689
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: you go Andy Reid Mahomes for Sirianni and Jalen. Though

690
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: it's not that simple because I mean Tyrian's not calling plays,

691
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: He's just kind of sitting there with Dom motivating the troops. Right,

692
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: it's really Andy versus Fangio. But Patrick and Andy. Now

693
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: granted he was on some you know, Denver wasn't exactly

694
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: a great team when.

695
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 2: He was there. They kicked their ass.

696
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: So it's just how do we get around going the

697
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles are going to win this game? Because I

698
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: saw this clip. I think I was at the gym

699
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: within the last month and they were replaying the Super

700
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: Bowl from Arizona. I had forgotten that the Chiefs were

701
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 1: down ten points at halftime to the Eagles.

702
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Hurts played amazing and they still lost, but

703
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: they were getting worked. Yep. Well, you say you don't

704
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: bet against homes in the playoffs. We've earned your lessons.

705
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: He's been down at all three of these Super Bowls

706
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: in the second half, all three of all four four. Yeah,

707
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: but I'm talking about the ones he's won. Yeah, but yeah,

708
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: the one he lost, he was down. Yeah. So twenty nineteen,

709
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: they were tied at the half, and then traveling the

710
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: second half, they were tied ten ten one thirty one

711
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty, they were down twenty one six at

712
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: the half, lost thirty one nine twenty twenty two, down

713
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: twenty four to fourteen under the first half one thirty

714
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: eight thirty five. That was against the Eagles, and then

715
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: last year down ten three at the end of the

716
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: first half one twenty five to twenty two. Mahmes eight

717
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: no straight up and against the spread in the playoffs

718
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: as a favorite of under a fueld goal or an underdog.

719
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, why I bet against them? But I put

720
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: I placed a wager on something that I bet last year.

721
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: I bet the forty nine Ers first half. I bet

722
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: the Eagles first half. It was a plus one and

723
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: a half out there, but even plus half plus a

724
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: half is fine. I paid a little extra for plus

725
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 2: one and a half. Maybe it's a little lower scoring early,

726
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: maybe Jake Elliott misses an extra point.

727
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: But you're not worried about Philly being a pretty terribly

728
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: starting team most of the season.

729
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it buries me a little bit. But the

730
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: Chiefs have started slow in all of these Super Bowls

731
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: as well, which is surprising. But because when I break

732
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: these two teams down, if you if you look at

733
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: the rosters like position by position. Offensive line like give

734
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: me Philadelphia, wide receivers, give me Philadelphia. Running back, give

735
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: me Philadelphia. Like tight end. Maybe I'm close to Wash

736
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: and Kelsey in the playoffs is different, but it's not

737
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: a huge edge. Defensive line, I'd take Philadelphia when Chris

738
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: Jones is a monster. Carlats is really good. So maybe

739
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 2: it's close to even linebacker without Dean. Maybe it's close

740
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: to even secondary. I'll take Philadelphia. So where's the difference.

741
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: It's quarterback and coaching. So again, like if Mahomes has

742
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: the ball late with a chance to win the game,

743
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna win. It will hurts against Spags defense

744
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: not as confident saying that, who do I trust to

745
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: make better adjustments at halftime? The Chiefs. So I took

746
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: the plus. I took the points with the Eagles in

747
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: the first half. Although I expect the Chiefs to win,

748
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: I will look to bet this game live, just like

749
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: I did Chiefs Bills every time the Chiefs went up.

750
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: I'll bet the Bills live and the Bills would score.

751
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: I bet the Chiefs live. Like the most likely outcome

752
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: is Chiefs win this game by three, which they seem

753
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: to do more often than not in the playoffs, in

754
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: super Bowls, in the regular season whenever, they just do

755
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: enough to win. And yeah, so I bet the Eagles

756
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: first half. We'll we look into bet the Chiefs live.

757
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: Don't fault anyone for betting Chiefs full game, for sure.

758
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: It's just Mahomes and that staff. They get it done.

759
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: Their offense is now healthier. They obviously also hold stuff back.

760
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: It's pretty obvious. In the regular season they kind of

761
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: just do what they need to do. And then, like

762
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: last week, you have the wrinkles of Mahomes running the ball.

763
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: They have.

764
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: Now you have two weeks to prepare, you're going to

765
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: see some more wrinkles On offense. You're going to see

766
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: spags have some some wrinkles and some you know, some

767
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: blitzes that just catch the Eagles off guard, hurts holds

768
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: the ball forever. How many drives does that kill? The

769
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: game plan is going to be focused on, especially in

770
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: early down, some taking away Barkley Kenny break runs. Uh,

771
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: that'll be interesting to watch. But the really interesting part

772
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: about this matchup, you have two teams that really control

773
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: the ball. They're used to just dominating time possession, and

774
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: now they're playing against each other. Who is going to

775
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: win that battle, Who's going to be able to convert

776
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: those third downs more often over the course of the game.

777
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: It's probably the Chiefs. Can they prevent the Eagles from

778
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: getting the fourth and one, from getting all those tush pushes.

779
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: So I think it'll be a super competitive game. I

780
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: think the Eagles out a better roster, but as we've

781
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: seen so many times, in this game, just like that

782
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: San Francisco game, without San Francisco is the better roster.

783
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: It's Mahomes, Reid and that staff that'll probably be the difference.

784
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: But I think it'll be a competitive game. That the

785
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: one thing looking can be tired of the Chiefs, and

786
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: but the one thing that you can say is they

787
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: at least usually give us an, you know, a compelling

788
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 2: game that's close for sure, for sure.

789
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, they are the one thing the

790
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: Patriots brought to the table. And obviously that that thing,

791
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, I mean this Chiefs early on,

792
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean Mahomes is, I don't think thirty yet. Andy

793
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: definitely he's slimmed down, he's eating well, so he's a young, vibrant,

794
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: sixty six. I mean he still got he ain't going away,

795
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: and Veach is young. I mean this kind of nucleus. Now,

796
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: maybe Chris Jones and Kelsey change out, as the Patriots

797
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: change out some players, but they're not necessarily going away.

798
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: But people got tired of the Patriots.

799
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: But they were always entertaining games, like their games were

800
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: part of their legend. Is it was just must watch TV.

801
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't some blowout. You know that Seattle

802
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: Denver game in New York. It's like that sucked. No

803
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: one believes that's ever gonna happen with the Chiefs.

804
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: Literally doesn't happen.

805
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: This season. Every single game in somewhat looks the same,

806
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: and they end up winning what seventeen of the nineteen

807
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: of the games, and one of them they punted. One

808
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: of them they didn't care.

809
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've won an NFL record number of one

810
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: possession games in a row. And a lot of that

811
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: is relible kicker, good coaching, Hall of Fame quarterback who's

812
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: gonna win you the game late and they just do

813
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: enough to win. And then you got a defensive coordinator's

814
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: gonna call up timely blitzes like just that are against

815
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 2: with the other off with their tendency breakers. We saw

816
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: that against the Bills on that key fourth down. Bills

817
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: were not expecting them to blitz as they did and

818
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: it ended up winning them the game. So they just

819
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: have at the end of the game. They just have

820
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: so many championship caliber characteristics, from the coaching, to the

821
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: special teams to most importantly the quarterback. Especially if you

822
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: give Mahomes four downs and he needs it to go

823
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: down the field, it's probably gonna get it done. So yeah,

824
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: it's uh. I think the Eagles have a better overall team,

825
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: but against the Chiefs and all their championship DNA, a

826
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: lot of times that doesn't matter.

827
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: Well, if you go back two years ago, and I remember,

828
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: my buddies with the Eagles are like, listen, we really

829
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: like Gannon. We think he's gonna be a better head

830
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: coach than he was a coordinator. Like he's just good

831
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: with the team, good motivating, but he's not. No one's

832
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: getting him confused with Steve Spagnola or whatever. Sure, so

833
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: they've upgraded a defensive coordinator since two years ago. That

834
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: defense was good, right, didn't they lead the league in sacks?

835
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean they had like four double digit guys interior

836
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: annexteriors like Fletcher hard Grave and a couple of the

837
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: edge rushers. But this defensive line right now is played

838
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: pretty well, and you'd go they upgraded at coordinator and

839
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: Slay was a little younger obviously a couple of years ago,

840
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: Brad Barry was just okay. So they're probably better at corner,

841
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: are very similar at safety. They literally brought the dude

842
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: back CJ playing that game, took a year off, came back.

843
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 2: But what do you make of if you go, okay that?

844
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: Because that Eagles defense was pretty top notch, very similar

845
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: this year, could you even argue an upgrade? But the coordinator,

846
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: who is I think one of the better ones of

847
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: a generation. But the matchup with Andy and Mahomes being

848
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: comfortable with you know, vick A Belichick, It doesn't look

849
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: different every week, like you kind of know what you're getting.

850
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: And when he's got really good players, and I saw

851
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: it first hand with the Niners, he will beat the

852
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: shit out of you. And I remember going to a

853
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: game when he played the Chiefs. When Andy first got there,

854
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were pretty good. He turned it around quick

855
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: because they were really good on defense. But Alex was

856
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: kind of their limitation. I remember they beat him in

857
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: a in just a bloodbath game between the two teams,

858
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: like Tom baw Lee and Justin Houston. It was like, God,

859
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: this things someone's gonna get like die on the field here.

860
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: But once he got Mahomes and playing those Denver teams.

861
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: But it's also like those Denver teams were terrible. It

862
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: wasn't all fixed fault, right, So what do you what

863
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: do you make of that?

864
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, i I'm fascinating to watch. I mean

865
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: the I the Eagles defense, they addressed. You got to

866
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: give how He roydsmen a lot of cut They addressed

867
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: their biggest needs on that side of the ball, number

868
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: one coordinator upgrade, but their corners were lacking, and they

869
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: brought in the Jeene and Mitchell that both hit. I mean,

870
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: they're playing outstanding. And then linebacker was a huge position

871
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: of need and they brought in Zach Baum and he

872
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: played in an all pro level. And you know you

873
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: had na Kobe Dean who unfortunately got hurt. But they

874
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: really addressed their biggest needs and it's translated on the field.

875
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: They've bargably been the best defense in the NFL. This year.

876
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm always so fascinated to watch. You have two weeks

877
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: prepare you know there are there is some familiarity there.

878
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: You know, the Chiefs are going to have some wrinkles

879
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. What do the Eagles

880
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: do from because you have to change what you already

881
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: have on film. You have to come with some new

882
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: wrinkles against Mahomes. So that's what I'm most fascinated to watch.

883
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: I do think that their their corners can match up

884
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: on the outside with the Chiefs wide receivers, and I

885
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: anticipate the Cheese will try to attack over in the

886
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: middle of the field and the Chiefs running. I mean

887
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 2: the Eagles Rundy has been really good to the Chiefs

888
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: rushing attack has not been as efficient since they kicked

889
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 2: out Tony to left tackle, which read said they're gonna

890
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: still do. I think Malones is just more comfortable when

891
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: he's a left tackle from a protection standpoint, but it's

892
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: definitely weakened their run blocking With Caliendo left guard, you

893
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: got Towny all pro left guard, and you know, you

894
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: get they have the best guard center guard combo in

895
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 2: the league. You think, yeah, he was there, and then

896
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: you know do your tackles. You had a big left

897
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: tackle struggled in pass protection, which could ruin a game,

898
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: which is probably why they're more comfortable with Toney out there.

899
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: But you have a big tackle and then Tony at

900
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 2: left guard that great and Tior like your running game

901
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: was much better. So this will probably be a just

902
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: higher volume Mahomes passing, which we see in the playoffs

903
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: more often than not. But what wrinkles does Fangio have

904
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: is and to be across the board, like we can

905
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: look at this matchup and what these teams have done

906
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: all the year, But it's the Super Bowls one game.

907
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: There's two weeks to repair. There's gonna be some schematic

908
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 2: surprises and uh that could end up deciding the game.

909
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's dive into some some props. You know,

910
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: I think once they made the Super Bowl there was

911
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: already a lot of buzz out there. Maybe if they

912
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: had missed Kelsey goes Hey, I so got he had

913
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: just got a contract extension the previous year. Once they

914
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: make it, win or lose, Like, he's no dummy. He

915
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: understands how difficult. I mean, he was in the league

916
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: a long time before they started rattling off the Super Bowls.

917
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: If he was on the fence, I think there's a

918
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: pretty good chance that he's done. Yep, and you know

919
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: him and him and Andy have a pretty special relationship,

920
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: like Andy's kind of it's gonna be like clutch Lebron Lakers,

921
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: like they're all kind of in the loop here. I

922
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: think Andy is gonna get this guy touchdown or at

923
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: least try and have some wrinkles to have this guy

924
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: score in the Super Bowl so you can get Kelsey,

925
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: who is I don't know on the short list of

926
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: great playoff performers in the history of the league at

927
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: plus one thirty five on DraftKings. To score a touchdown

928
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: like that was that was just an auto hammer to me.

929
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: Donate that. Yeah.

930
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna be heavily involved by both tight ends.

931
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: I know you like God hear too, but I think

932
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: the tight ends big this week. Yeah.

933
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: I anticipate the Chiefs will try to attack over the

934
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: middle of field. No, Dean, that is the weakness. I

935
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 2: think the Eagles have the advantage of corner the Rundy's good.

936
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: Chiefs aren't running it as well. I also like Worthy

937
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: anytime touchdown he actually is just below Kelsey in targets

938
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: per route running the red zone this year, and he

939
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 2: leads the team in red zone reception touchdowns. He also

940
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: gets the ball other ways. They'll hand it to him

941
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: in the red zone. So one sixty five you can

942
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 2: find on him. I think that should be like closer

943
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 2: to plus one forty. But yeah, Kelt is going to

944
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: be heavily involved here, and I agree if he wins this,

945
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: I could see him riding off into the sunset. I mean,

946
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: you just three peeted. What else is there to do

947
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: going out on top?

948
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

949
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: I like Goddard a lot. I mean the Chiefs can't

950
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: They really struggle to defend tight ends. They give up

951
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: the most yards per route run against opposing tight ends

952
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: of any team in the NFL. I think that is

953
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 2: six catches. There's really good guys have They blitz a lot.

954
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: They're really good on the outside against receivers. So where

955
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: else are you throwing the ball? And their linebackers and

956
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: safeties aren't elite and coverage, so there's opportunity there. And Goddard,

957
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: I mean, past seven games since he came back, he's

958
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: looks fully healthy, he looks great, He's averaged about four

959
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: and a half catches on five and a half targets

960
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: for about fifty two yards per game. But in the playoffs,

961
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: this is the guy always shows up. Last week, I

962
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: think he had seven catches on eight targets for eighty

963
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: five yards. He's played eight playoff games since becoming basically

964
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: a full time starter. Six out of the eight he's

965
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: at least five catches. Six out of the eighties had

966
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: at least fifty yards. He's averaged six catches on about

967
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: eight targets for sixty four yards. Look at the medians,

968
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: it's like five and a half catches on six and

969
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: a half targets for sixty yards. Chiefs also run a

970
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 2: lot of man got It Elite versus man almost four

971
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: yards per route run this year, which is number one

972
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: amongst all tight ends against man coverage. And even if

973
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: you look at the games where there's only six or

974
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 2: seven of them, when got It, Aj Brown and Demante

975
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 2: Smith all played together with Ertz, got It was still

976
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 2: number two in target share. Also high target share against

977
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: the Blitz. I think they got to get the ball

978
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: quick here. And look, the Eagles are used to playing

979
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: from ahead. They played a soft schedule, playing with the

980
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: lead up big and then you just run the ball

981
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: and run out the clock. Right, Well, they're underdogs in

982
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: this game. You're more likely than most of your games

983
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 2: you play this year to be in a more past

984
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 2: heavy game script. So I think that God should get

985
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: a bunch of looks. Here. A scary one I like

986
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 2: is Mahomes's longest rush under thirteen and a half. I'd look,

987
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: if there's ever a third and thirteen, I'm gonna be

988
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: shitting my pants because he always just finds a way

989
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: to run for like one more yard. It seems like

990
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: he just knows the perfect speed to be at whether

991
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: it's a defensive lineman, a linebacker, a corner, he's always

992
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: one step ahead and he'll get the first down by

993
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: a yard. But I think this is too why they

994
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: opened at like ten and a half, And it's a

995
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: popular bet, so a lot of times these popular overs

996
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: get inflated. I don't know, I'm trying to figure out

997
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: this is gonna go a fourteen and a half or not.

998
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: But if you want to bet unders, you want to

999
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: bet them later in the week. You know, if they

1000
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: tend to peak around Thursday, Friday, Saturday, quarterback drops on Saturdays.

1001
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 2: All the public money can have can have a say

1002
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: on this. And if you want to bet overs on

1003
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: popular players, you want to bet them earlier on but Mahomes.

1004
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: He does run more in the playoffs. But if you

1005
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: look over the course of his entire career, he's had

1006
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: five hundred and forty rush attempts, fifty four of them

1007
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: have gone for more than thirteen and a half yards.

1008
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: It's about ten percent. In the playoffs, he runs a

1009
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: little more. He runs about five and a half yard

1010
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: five and a half carries per game in the playoffs,

1011
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: compared to about four in the regular season. He's had

1012
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: one hundred and eight playoff rush attempts, ten of them

1013
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: have gone over thirteen half, so that it's only about

1014
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: nine percent. All of his games combined, he's played one

1015
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty two games. Only forty six of those

1016
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: games is he had a rush of over thirteen and

1017
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: a half yards. It's about thirty five percent of his

1018
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 2: games only gone over at nine out of twenty times

1019
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: in the playoffs this year, five out of eighteen games

1020
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: and only about one out of every fifteen carries has

1021
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: gone for over thirteen and a half yards. His rushing

1022
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 2: props are about five and a half carries. I think

1023
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: he would need like eight ish carries on average to

1024
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: get over this because Number one, some other reasons to

1025
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 2: like this. The Eagles they don't give up any exposive place.

1026
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 2: They keep everything in front of them. It's not a

1027
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: man heavy defense. This is going to blitz a lot.

1028
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: So the chances of my homes being able to break

1029
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: one are lower than you know they would be in

1030
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: some other matchups. And if you look this year, the

1031
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: Eagles allowed eighty four quarterback rushing attempts, only four went

1032
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: for over thirteen and a half yards. That's less than

1033
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: five percent of the quarterback carrieres. And they faced Jane

1034
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: Daniels three times and Lamar Jackson once, And those those

1035
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: quarterbacks Lamar and Daniels who were the best runners in

1036
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: the NFL, they have thirty carries. Only three of them

1037
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: went for over thirteen a half yards, so one out

1038
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: of every ten. So if you're expecting moms to get

1039
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: like sixi ish carries here, I think there's value on

1040
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: this under the other thing to keep in mind is

1041
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: the Eagles are a ball control offense like the Chiefs.

1042
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are used to having the ball for most

1043
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: of the game. Well, now you're playing another team that

1044
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: could have eight to nine minute drives, which just takes

1045
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: away some of the opportunities that Mahomes might have to

1046
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: get rushing attempts. So I think that's I think over

1047
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half is a bit too high. Opened

1048
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: it at like ten and a half, which I think

1049
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: is probably closer to where this should be priced. It's scary,

1050
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: he could easily get it, but I think it's too high.

1051
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: What about the other quarterback on the ground, because I

1052
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: just looked in twenty two when they lost Super Bowl,

1053
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: they only played three games, right because they were the

1054
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: one seed, so they had they played two games and

1055
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: one was against the Niners when Perty got injured. He

1056
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: had five touchdowns during that run, and this year he's

1057
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: got he just had three. But he had the long

1058
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: run against the Rams or was that the Packers? Was

1059
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: the Packers to open up the game? Yeah, one of

1060
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: those two teams, those Packers.

1061
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, you can get him just anytime touchdown

1062
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: at my minus one ten. To me, it feels I

1063
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: have a hard time seeing and for whatever reason, and

1064
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if the stats don't back this up.

1065
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: But I feel like every single game they get a

1066
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: situation like the one or two yard line and that's

1067
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: clearly just automatic. So I it's it's why I parlayed

1068
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 2: the Kelsey Jalen anytime parlay, but I have a hard

1069
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: time seeing Jalen Hurts not score. I feel it's more

1070
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: likely the Jalen score a touchdown than Saku one Barcley

1071
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: scores touchdown. Am I nuts?

1072
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: No?

1073
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: I mean, plus, even if they're at like the two

1074
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: or three, there's they can touch push twice. They just

1075
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: touch push twice and do it. So started on the

1076
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: first down, yep. Yeah, so yeah, don't hate that at all.

1077
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: I mean, they get anywhere near the goal line, Hurts

1078
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: is gonna score. So yeah, I don't hate that. It's

1079
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: it's what.

1080
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: About him as a runner, because the one thing, you know,

1081
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: we were like Lamar a year ago not running on them.

1082
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Partly it was the coordinator as well.

1083
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: Josh has had a lot of success.

1084
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: Running on them. Jalen is not exactly apples to apples,

1085
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: So those two guys running, but he is a really

1086
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: good runner. You know, do you think that you know

1087
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: his over under rushing guards if can get him fifty

1088
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: sixty yards or is that you know that's not really

1089
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: how they want to play.

1090
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how they're going to play, like

1091
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: the read option. Are they going to just try to

1092
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: take away Barkley and then in that case that could

1093
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: open up some opportunities for hurts. But I also don't

1094
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: know if he's fully healthy. Like last week, you could

1095
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: tell running straight ahead he's fine, but lateral movement he

1096
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: might still be maybe a little limited, maybe a little hesitant.

1097
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: Maybe that just maybe takes away some designed runs. Maybe

1098
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: it just does and lead to as many big runs.

1099
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: So the health uncertainty, like he's clearly helping up a

1100
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: player look fine, but from a running perspective, it might

1101
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: impact him a bits of that uncertain but that he's

1102
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 2: got two weeks off, so I had too much uncertainty

1103
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: for me to get involved there. I assume that the

1104
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: Chiefs are going to focus on taking away Barkley on

1105
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: early downs and teams that have done at the playoffs

1106
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: they've bottled him up for long stretches. It's been the

1107
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 2: long runs that have just killed of the other teams.

1108
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: Like he's just from an efficiency standpoint, and look, the

1109
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: Eagles had not faced a hard schedule of opposing defenses

1110
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: this year and even in the playoffs like the Rams,

1111
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: the Packers, the Commanders, these aren't great defenses. Can can

1112
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 2: What impact can Barkley have? Assuming the Chiefs are gonna

1113
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: you know, load the box and try to take him

1114
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: away on early downs and then you're in laid down

1115
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: situations where spagskiming the pressure, hurts, tends to hold the

1116
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: ball too long. That's another reason why I do like God,

1117
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: he too is blitz. You gotta get rid of the

1118
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: ball quick here. Yeah, but yeah, how I think I

1119
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: tend to think Barclay's numbers are all inflated, like I

1120
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: would lead under on a lot of his numbers, because

1121
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: one I think the Chiefs are going to focus on him.

1122
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: This still a pretty good defense. I do think their

1123
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: defense is a bit overrated overall people view it. They

1124
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 2: face a lot of teams of injuries this year, and

1125
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: if you look at what the Bills did, the Texans

1126
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: even had success running on them.

1127
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: But they're a good tackling team. You know that that

1128
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: first run for Barkley where I think chin it was like,

1129
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: what is going on here?

1130
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1131
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: That won't have to I would say all eleven guys,

1132
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: specifically the DB's McDuffie read, I mean they tackle well,

1133
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: so he's not just going to have some seven yard

1134
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: run turned into forty because two guys fucking chicken wing it,

1135
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: you know.

1136
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: Yep. So yeah, I don't mind his under rushing yards.

1137
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are going to be focused on it. I

1138
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to give up these metal long runs.

1139
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: Like you said, great tackling team. And then again, just

1140
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: the point I just made is the Eagles are used

1141
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 2: to playing from ahead all year, right, they had an

1142
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: easy schedule. They're used to playing from ahead, and then

1143
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: Barkley just gets a ton of carries against weak defenses. Well,

1144
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: now as an underdog and against the Chiefs, you're more

1145
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: likely to be playing for behim or you're gonna have

1146
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: to throw. You're playing a defense that's focused on and

1147
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: like I just said, the Eagles are now playing their

1148
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: counterpart in time of possession. Right, They're not used to

1149
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: playing the team like the Chiefs that will Just the

1150
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: Chiefs have no explosiveness on their offense. Right, they might

1151
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: have an explosive player too, but one of the least

1152
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: explosive offenses in the NFL, and The Eagles don't give

1153
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: up any explosive place. That is one of their strengths.

1154
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: They keep everything in front of them. They're the number

1155
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 2: one's explosive pasty in the NFL. So what does that mean?

1156
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: That means it's Mahomes doing what they've done all year.

1157
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: It's methodically moving the ball down the field. What is

1158
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: does that mean? The Eagles and Barkley are on the

1159
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: sidelines for long stretches so and everyone wants to bet

1160
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: the Barkley over. So I think the Barkley numbers are

1161
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: all inflated. It's it's a it's tough to figure out

1162
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: which one to go with because if you go under

1163
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: rush attempts, I think yards is just the best way

1164
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: to go, because you go I think rush attempts is

1165
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: too high. Same with longest rush. But if he breaks,

1166
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: if he breaks a long run, then you know, obviously

1167
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: he goes over longest rush, and then that'll help under

1168
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: rushing attempts because then it's just taking away a huge

1169
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: part of the field where we would add carries. But

1170
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: if he doesn't go over as long as rush, that

1171
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: means he might get more carries. So yeah, I think

1172
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 2: the best way to go is just under rushing yards

1173
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: total on Barkley. I think that number is like ten

1174
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: fifteen yards too high, and if he breaks seventy yard

1175
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: run you tip your cap. But yeah, the Chiefs could

1176
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: have the all a ton here. Eagles might have to

1177
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: pass more than they have all year. I mean, this

1178
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: is a team that's just been and their elite is

1179
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: as a front runner. But they're not playing the Chiefs

1180
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: every week. So I don't mind the Barkley unders, as

1181
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: scary as they are and sound after what he's done

1182
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: this year.

1183
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: You know, one if you go to the Texans game

1184
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: where they got two high end rushers, they only sacked

1185
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: him three times. But I thought early in that game

1186
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: they were just cosm havoc.

1187
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: You know.

1188
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: The one thing with the Eagles is their defensive line.

1189
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean has really come on in the second half

1190
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: of the season, in the playoffs. I mean Carter, I

1191
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: mean you could make the argument, you know, just talent

1192
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: Wisese like a top ten player non quarterback in the NFL.

1193
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: Nolan Smith a good player.

1194
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith, Yeah, I mean Williams. Milton Williams is a

1195
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: free agent.

1196
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: You got they just got a lot of people, right,

1197
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 2: and that's to me, one thing that Fangio like his

1198
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: baby has always been dominating a lot, like with his

1199
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: good defenses, Like his front just plays.

1200
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: To another level, especially at big games. So if the

1201
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs are gonna lose, you go, well, what's the formula

1202
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: it would be? When what was their formula to lose.

1203
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: The last Super Bowl?

1204
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: Their offensive line kind of got manhandled. Now you know

1205
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: both their tackles right had torn achilles or I forget.

1206
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: There are a bunch of backup offense. They were fucked.

1207
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't quite that situation, but clearly, I mean

1208
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: if Andy Reid was true here, I mean be like, yeah,

1209
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: our offensive line used to be a lot better moving forward.

1210
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a point emphasis for them this offseason,

1211
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure. So you go, if they're gonna lose, like

1212
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 1: you can get a lot of plus numbers, Jalen Carter

1213
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: to get a sack plus one thirty one, just what

1214
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: to get a sack plus one fifty, Nolan Smith to

1215
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: get a sack plus one twelve, Like they're gonna get

1216
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: a couple of sack They're gonna get them. Because the

1217
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: one thing is Mahomes likes to make plays. He likes

1218
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: to hold the ball a little bit. He's usually unlike

1219
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: some of these other guys, he pulls it off sometimes

1220
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: Jalen like just stops and takes sack like Mahomes kind.

1221
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: Of wheasels away.

1222
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: But these guys are such freaks. It's just sometimes it's hard.

1223
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: And Jalen to me, one of the plays, especially like

1224
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: you said, moving, you know, doing out to left tackle,

1225
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: like he's just gonna be over that guard sometimes and

1226
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: it's not like Joe can help him out because he's

1227
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: got to worry about whoever's over him. Yeah, and he

1228
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: just one of those plays the guy's just gonna fucking

1229
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: whiff on him, and the six to five, three and

1230
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: twenty pounder Patrick just.

1231
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: Not gonna be able to run away.

1232
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: I think him getting a sack feels like a lock

1233
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: in this game.

1234
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna have favorable matchups and Mahomes' sack numbers,

1235
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 2: pressure to sack rich has gone up this year, and

1236
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 2: the Eagles can cover on the back end. I think

1237
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: he's he's I think destined to make a big play here.

1238
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 2: I also Chris Jones feels like he's probably gonna get

1239
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: a sack too. Yeah, I agree, Like Hurtz holds the

1240
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: ball forever. I know there's gonna be a lot of

1241
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: attention on him, but we don't even know how healthy

1242
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: the interior of the Eagles offensive line is. I assume

1243
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna play, but dealing with some injuries, so maybe

1244
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: that shows up as way well. But Hurts is I mean,

1245
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: you look, no one has held the ball longer. Actually,

1246
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson that was it. But as far as quarterbacks

1247
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 2: who ended the year as a starter, Hurts holds the

1248
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: ball a ton and going up up against bags and

1249
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: with this game script, they might be behind, might have

1250
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:18,959
Speaker 2: to throw more.

1251
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: Feels like Chris Jones re injured potential too, you know,

1252
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: with the back and a knee like one of them

1253
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: whoever is out there. All of a sudden, Jurgens backs

1254
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: tighten it up, Dickerson's knees. You know, Okay, I'm feeling

1255
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: good pregame. Then all of a sudden, Chris Jones hits him.

1256
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: He's like, oh shit, I can't walk. That's got one

1257
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: of those two guys as I've written all over him,

1258
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: doesn't it.

1259
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 2: Yep? Yeah, And that's like you have you have really

1260
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: good tackles, you can maybe neutralize the edge rush for

1261
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 2: Kansas City. But with the blitzes and pressures that Spags

1262
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: is going to draw up, I can see Jones getting

1263
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: home on Hurts, if not once, but maybe it maybe

1264
01:03:59,200 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: even twice.

1265
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: One of my flyers and for me on this is

1266
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, forever, it's only improved over the years. Is

1267
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: Andy Alfa by I mean, he's truly one of the

1268
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: great offensive minds in the history of the game. Chiefs

1269
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: first drive, touchdown plus one ninety five. I mean, this

1270
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: is it's been so long and he's become a legend since,

1271
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: but this is still the team that fired him, you know.

1272
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we're all human beings. I know he's

1273
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: friends with Howie, he's friends with Jeffrey Lury, and you know,

1274
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: the Eagles put him on the map and everything.

1275
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: They still fired him.

1276
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: So I just think that he's always motivated with the

1277
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: extra time. It's been a point of difference for him

1278
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: over his career.

1279
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: This is the Super Bowl.

1280
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: He's a bright lights guy, Kelsey going out, He's got

1281
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: my homes. I just think Chiefs first drive. You know,

1282
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe some trick plays all of a sudden,

1283
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: it's like, oh yeah, Andy told us he stole this

1284
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: one from the nineteen fifty seven Navy game. You know

1285
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: he not just holding that till the third You never know,

1286
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,479
Speaker 1: it could be like the second play of the game.

1287
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 2: I just this guy's he's he's ring. You know this

1288
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 2: isn't Kellen Moore like f nas Sirianni and Howie, like,

1289
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: are we cool if we do this?

1290
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: Like anything he wants to do he could do.

1291
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: And he's he's got three guys on his staff looking

1292
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 2: over tape for the last hundred years. You know, they

1293
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 2: like to They had practice this morning. I'm sure they

1294
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 2: have some crazy play.

1295
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: Just to keep the guys fresh. It's like a classic

1296
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: Andy move. I just that first drive at almost two

1297
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: to one to score a touchdown feels pretty tasty. And

1298
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: what are the Chiefs a bright light scene? What they

1299
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: do against your squad last year? Against the Bills this.

1300
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 2: Year, it's like they fucking just if they do come ready,

1301
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: they might slow down after the first drive because they're

1302
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: so hyped up for it, and then all of a sudden,

1303
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: it's like ten to seven going into halftime. But I

1304
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: could see that.

1305
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: First drive and he have some tricks up his sleeve.

1306
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hate your reasoning at all. I will

1307
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 2: be rooting against it because I had the Eagles first

1308
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: half and I want to bet the Chiefs live for

1309
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 2: my long shot that I'll give out.

1310
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: By the way, you hit one of the great I

1311
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: mean last year, fourteen to one on overtime.

1312
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and almost one hundred to one double overtime. It

1313
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 2: was truly special that one play away. I watched the

1314
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: play clock. If there was it was one second away

1315
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 2: from them being able to run it down to go

1316
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: to second overtime.

1317
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: Homes through the touchdown. There was only one second left

1318
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: in the first.

1319
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: Quarter, no, in the first overtime, so they I had

1320
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: one hundred to one to go double overtime, and there

1321
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: was under a minute to go, and there was like

1322
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: forty two second. There was like fifty four seconds.

1323
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh gotcha, guys.

1324
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: They completed a pass and there was forty one seconds

1325
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: left when they spotted the ball. So the play clock

1326
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: was a forty which means they had to run another play.

1327
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: So if it was the other second, there's a chance

1328
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: that they would have said, let's talk about this play

1329
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: breath yeah, and that like uh so.

1330
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: He just snapped, he just snapped the balls like twenty

1331
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: or third.

1332
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, during twenty seconds, but there was a chance that

1333
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: maybe they just ran it down and like, let's talk

1334
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 2: about the play. I was watching the clock so intently

1335
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: and it went forty one, and I was like, no.

1336
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: That'd have been the greatest hit of your life. One

1337
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: hundred to one.

1338
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 2: It doesn't get much better than that. Yeah, I had

1339
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty to one tennis a tennis feature

1340
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: Maren Chilic at the US Open, like uh, twelve years

1341
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: ago or something, but yeah, that would have been up there. Three.

1342
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1343
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: For MVP, it's hard. I mean it's a quarterback award obviously,

1344
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: like Barkley as a better chance than a running back

1345
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: usually would because of how important is and what kind

1346
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: of season he's had. I think Kelsey obviously because just

1347
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: the narrative and he hasn't won it and he could

1348
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 2: have a big day.

1349
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: But if you look back, I think like nine out

1350
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: of fifty seven defensive players have won the MVP And

1351
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: the last one was did Donald win the MVP when

1352
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: the Rams won it? The or Stafford?

1353
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 2: No, that was Cup? Oh yeah, the last the last

1354
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: defender to win it might have been let's see, since

1355
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 2: two thousand, the defenders to win it were well, Malcolm Brown,

1356
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: Dexter Jackson won.

1357
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: It for the Box.

1358
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: Von Miller I think was the last one in twenty sixteen.

1359
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 2: I was, yeah, Malcolm Smith, Von Miller, Dexter Jackson, Ray

1360
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 2: Lewis too. I think those are the defenders that have

1361
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: won it. So it hasn't happened out well yeah, so

1362
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 2: maybe there's a defensive mind that could win it. But

1363
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: if you look, since von Miller won it, get Brady Fowles, Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes.

1364
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: The only other non quarterbacks to win are receivers Edelman

1365
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: and Cup. So you have to have just a high

1366
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 2: volume game. You need to score touchdowns. A'll frod Xavier

1367
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: Worthy thirty to one, Like, is there a way that

1368
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,919
Speaker 2: a game where he has like eight or nine catches

1369
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: a touchdown or two and if he has like a

1370
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: big rush with a rushing touchdown, like I could see

1371
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 2: Worthy having an Edelman or Cup type of game and

1372
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 2: that does it still probably go to Mahomes probably, But

1373
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: if that's why you can get thirty thirty five to one.

1374
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 2: So that's my long shot that I'll throw out for

1375
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 2: this year. Xavior Worthy MVP.

1376
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: What would it take for a defensive player to get it,

1377
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: you think multiple sacks and a force fumble, right.

1378
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: Probably score a and.

1379
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: You need it to be like a lower scoring game,

1380
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: like exactly Bond with like eleven tackles and a pick

1381
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: six get it.

1382
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's hard to It's hard for me to

1383
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: imagine the Chiefs just like not scoring enough. So like

1384
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 2: that would mean the Eagles have to score more and

1385
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: who's getting it. But you would need just like a

1386
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 2: weird distribution. It's it would be tough. You would you

1387
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: would need like a defender to score have a huge

1388
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: day and it being be a low scoring game. So yeah,

1389
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 2: it's it's tough for me to see a defensive player

1390
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 2: winning it in this particular game. But you never know.

1391
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw, I think I had an NFL

1392
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: network on and they were showing some highlights of the

1393
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: Bucks Raiders. Maybe it was a YouTube I forget, but

1394
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:57,919
Speaker 1: got that game was terrible.

1395
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 2: That was awful.

1396
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: Rich was just throwing pick after pick after pick after pick.

1397
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean it was one point in time, it was

1398
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: like forty eight to twenty. I mean, it was it

1399
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: was rough.

1400
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: That was amazing that a defensive player won it in

1401
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 2: a game. That was forty eight to twenty one final

1402
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 2: and a defensive player won it. That's an anomaly. I mean,

1403
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: like because if you look what happened, Brad Johnson was

1404
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 2: eighteen to thirty four, two hundred yards, two touchdowns and interception,

1405
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,879
Speaker 2: Like you're not going to give it to him. Pittman

1406
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: ran the ball thirty times for one hundred and twenty yards,

1407
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 2: no touchdowns, so you're not going to give it to him.

1408
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 2: Like Keenan McCardell there there, He scored two touchdowns for

1409
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 2: the Bucks, but he had two catches for thirteen yards.

1410
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: Their other leading receiver was Joe Jarvisis. He had four catches,

1411
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 2: seventy yards, no touchdowns. It's like, who are you giving

1412
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: it to? Right? Like they scored forty eight points, so

1413
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 2: it just all worked out that way. Like that's how

1414
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 2: you need a defensive either a really low scoring game

1415
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 2: or it's just like no one stuck out offensively for you.

1416
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 1: And I feel like teams like that won't even exist anymore.

1417
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: Like it was back to back like the Ravens Bucks

1418
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: where its is like Dilferd, Brad Johnson, random offensive guys,

1419
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: but just an all time defense. Like I just don't

1420
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: think we're getting those that used to happen a lot.

1421
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different, different game now, which is why

1422
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:30,919
Speaker 2: since twenty sixteen we've only seen quarterbacks and wide receivers

1423
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: win it. So and that when von Miller won it,

1424
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: that was the Broncos won twenty four to.

1425
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: Ten, and Peyton couldn't throw after the first droved Manna.

1426
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 2: It was thirteen of twenty three for one hundred and

1427
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 2: forty yards, no touchdowns in the interception. The final score

1428
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: was twenty four to ten. You know, CJ. Anderson had

1429
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: twenty three catches for ninety yards and a touchdown, Like,

1430
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 2: is that MVP worthy really? And then their leading receiver,

1431
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 2: Manuel Sanders had six catches ready for your yards. Maybe

1432
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: if you got a touchdown, he could have won it.

1433
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: But that's how a defender won it. And Ivan von

1434
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: Noller two and a half sacks, six total, six total tackles,

1435
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: twenty four to ten, no offensive standouts, he's a household name.

1436
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: That's how a defender went won it. But hard to

1437
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: see in this game.

1438
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: But that's probably the last great defense. And I saw

1439
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: that team play live a bunch. I mean, they were

1440
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: just they had four high end d linemen all their

1441
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: linebackers were good and their dbs were sweet. Yeah, and

1442
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: even back then, like in fifteen, sixteen seventeen, you could

1443
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: still kind of hit you know, like a keep to

1444
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: Lee will.

1445
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 2: Hit you up. TJ.

1446
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: Ward would fucking rock your socks off. You know, you

1447
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: can't really play like that. So it's like they could

1448
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: cover and if you went across the middle, you get decapitated.

1449
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: It's like the you can still build a good.

1450
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,480
Speaker 1: Defense of wine. It's just harder to build the secondaries,

1451
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: which the Ravens, you know, the Bucks definitely had where

1452
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: you would just get you might go to, you know,

1453
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: the hospital, you know.

1454
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: So it's like it so much harder. Yeah.

1455
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh well it's sad, sucky. We just got

1456
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 1: one more football game and you got college basketball. So

1457
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: and any plugs for a team that you like that's

1458
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: flying a little under the radar. I saw Gonzaga. They

1459
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: just lose to Saint Mary's.

1460
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they keep fairly oh in seven games decided by

1461
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: six points or less this year. They cannot close out

1462
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: a game. It's a major problem for them. I think

1463
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is legit. We told them just win at Houston.

1464
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: If you want to take a flyer and then like

1465
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 2: they can give them a eight to one to make

1466
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 2: the final four if you want to get crazy to

1467
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 2: win the national title. I also like Illinois, Texas A

1468
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 2: and m is uh some flyers to make the final four.

1469
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 2: Not super long shots, but not at the top of

1470
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: the board. So yeah, those are some of the teams.

1471
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 2: I throw up big bets on campus, where we have

1472
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: three podcasts a week doing college basketball stuff, Action overcap,

1473
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: actionover dot com. I've bright up stuff every weekend, and uh,

1474
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 2: you follow me for commentary and all that jazz for

1475
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: college basketball through the tournament. That's Stucky two on X

1476
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: but uh, it was a pleasure do it going through

1477
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,799
Speaker 2: another season with your brother and can't wait till hopefully

1478
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: do it again next year, starting in August.

1479
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: It can't come soon enough. I'm already ready start the

1480
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: county wrong.

1481
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: I like free agency in the draft, but I much

1482
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 2: rather have games on Saturday and Sunday. Absolutely, Okay, Stuck,

1483
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: you take it easy, bro, I'll talk to you soon.

1484
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 2: Cheers both

1485
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:47,919
Speaker 1: The volume