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Speaker 1: because Karen Bass today held a public announcement to explain

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Speaker 1: the newest task force to take on the smash and

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Speaker 1: grab retail robberies. And you know, task forces are something

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Speaker 1: I love more than life.

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Speaker 2: Itself, something better than a new task force?

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Speaker 3: Can we also get the alarm? Is the alarm still available.

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Speaker 2: In you see there? It is? We play the alarms here?

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Speaker 3: This is the real emergency. Is this mass theft that

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Speaker 3: this point in time? Maybe when you just look at

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Speaker 3: last couple of weeks you can point to nearly one

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Speaker 3: We got an update today from the Glendale Police Chief,

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Speaker 3: and he had said that from that eve Saint Laurent's store,

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Speaker 3: we're told around three hundred thousand dollars. That number is

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Speaker 2: These are handbags, now, bro, look at that a million dollars.

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Speaker 4: They're expensive.

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Speaker 2: Apparently there was it was only five handbags they've stolen,

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Speaker 3: Every time I went and covered one of these, I

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Speaker 4: Well keep looking?

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Speaker 2: Would that be legal? If a thief drops a handbag?

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Speaker 2: You your legal? He doesn't know that's true, you know,

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Speaker 4: Don't ask questions, Blake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't worry. Nobody heard that.

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Speaker 2: So what's the task force abound? Yes, we've been it.

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Speaker 2: What are they going to do? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So, in the wake of all these flash mob robberies

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Speaker 3: Police are going to be using cell tower information, cyber

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Speaker 1: Okay, is this a master gang, you know, like a

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Speaker 2: How do you unravel that?

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Speaker 3: So this is a statewide issue. I'm told that in

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Speaker 1: All these luxury goods, luxury good retail shops, I've been

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Speaker 1: They suspect it's gascon'es lenient policy. All the bad guys

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Speaker 3: Well, one thing you will you might find interesting, John.

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Speaker 3: You know, yes, a few days ago, Gascone had held

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Speaker 3: So reporters they started questioning that. They started asking Mayor Bass,

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Speaker 1: To get You can't get around that. He has ten

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Speaker 1: This guy did, did this bad act, ten thousand of them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole world knows this. So why wouldn't

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Speaker 3: I do want to go to this bite. I know

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Speaker 3: you were alluding to this. Sheriff Luna gave us a

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Speaker 3: La County's been the lost couple of years. Ah, he's

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Speaker 2: Oh that's the.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, that's not the right, bight, that's the bite from yesterday. Well, anyways,

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Speaker 3: Okay, that was the Glendale pet one. I'm done trying

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Speaker 2: Up on that.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is the sheriff, Robert Luna, said they're

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Speaker 1: This is the study. You have one hundred and seventy fifths.

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Speaker 1: Because when you stop prosecuting, people stop reporting crimes. A

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Speaker 1: So there's no consequences. That's the grand result. There's nobody,

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Speaker 3: That's the concern. And those are the numbers they're trying

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Speaker 1: I have to call the manager. Now when should call

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Speaker 1: the police immediately?

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Speaker 2: Isn't there.

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Speaker 1: A security in the shopping mall to detain this guy?

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Speaker 1: If he's crouching down If you look at the video, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's sniffing. I guess under you know the women's skirts, dresses,

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Speaker 1: whatever they're wearing. And when you ask him what he's doing,

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Speaker 1: he says, I'm tying my shoes, all right. So here's

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Speaker 1: an idea of his record. Well as of August the sixth,

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Speaker 1: just what eleven days ago, he was accused of peeping

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Speaker 1: into a Glendale home with children. August the eighth. I

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Speaker 1: guess this woman posted her encounter with him on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: He was arrested on August eleventh and walked free yesterday.

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Speaker 1: On the fifteenth. The walk free on Tuesday the fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: a California judge placed on probation. He's on probation dozens

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Speaker 1: of arrests a slew of sex offenses. He's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be on the Sex This sex Offender database, but Fox

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Speaker 1: News can't find him listed. He has served time in

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Speaker 1: state prison on burglary and robbery charges. He was sentenced

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Speaker 1: in February to a year in jail indecent exposure in

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Speaker 1: Santa Clarita.

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Speaker 2: He was released early.

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Speaker 1: Twenty women have reached out to Mikaela Winter to say

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Speaker 1: that they have similar stories with this guy. Twenty other women,

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Speaker 1: another woman with a TikTok handle art of the Reality

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Speaker 1: posted a video where she turned around and confronted a

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Speaker 1: man who had crouched behind her. Candice Hoary, the wife

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Speaker 1: of the former Lakers star Robert Horry, said Crowder stalk

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Speaker 1: their daughter a decade ago. She posted online. He went

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Speaker 1: to jail only to come out and continue the same behavior.

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Speaker 2: He needs to be put away for good.

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Speaker 1: What does this guy have to do for the gas

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Speaker 1: Gownes of the world and the Karen Vasses of the

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Speaker 1: world to put him away and lock him up?

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Speaker 2: How did he get out after ten years ago after

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Speaker 2: doing something to Robert Orre's kid.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Nobody is safe. There's no amount of

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Speaker 1: money and celebrity to protect you from these creeps. He's

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Speaker 1: supposed to be registered as a sex offender. He's not

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Speaker 1: on the registry. Nobody follows up on that stuff, not

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Speaker 1: that that really is going to do anything in this case.

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Speaker 1: And of course there's nobody at the Burbank, Barnes and

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Speaker 1: Noble to help out. There's no police, there's no security. Okay,

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Speaker 1: look at this La County jail records show he's been

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Speaker 1: booked forty one times, forty one arrests. The whole systems bus.

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Speaker 1: We got to take a break.

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Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 1: Are we really having a hurricane?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Or is this you know, media hype?

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Speaker 4: Well, as of right now, we're going to see rain

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Speaker 4: on Sunday and Monday because of this this hurricane.

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Speaker 1: I saw two inches of rain. I know, boo, two

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Speaker 1: inches of rain in August.

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Speaker 4: I know, is not that it's not a hurricane.

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Speaker 2: Apparently we haven't had a hurricane hit here and since

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Speaker 2: nineteen thirty nine. It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I had to reread that over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw headlines this morning and I just blew

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Speaker 1: by them. I didn't even read the story until they

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Speaker 1: kept coming up everywhere because I just thought, oh, this

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Speaker 1: is some crazy hype. This is you know, some storm

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Speaker 1: five hundred miles out to sea, and you know, everyone's

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Speaker 1: competing for clicks.

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Speaker 2: Finally I clicked one and.

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, this is really And I checked the

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Speaker 1: Weather Service, like the Government Weather Service and the Weather

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Speaker 1: Channel and it's like, oh wow, So the hurricane has

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Speaker 1: winds out in the ocean of one hundred and five

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Speaker 1: miles an hour.

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Speaker 4: Is your bunker ready for us? Are we gonna hunker

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Speaker 4: down there?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm a hurricane proof.

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Speaker 4: Uh, well you have. You have until Saturday nights to

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Speaker 4: figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Although in my bunker there are no windows, so there's

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Speaker 1: no windows that can blow out, no rain could get in.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think the rainfall is going to be

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Speaker 1: any worse than the winter we had, I hope not.

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Speaker 1: I mean two inches of rain that was, you know,

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Speaker 1: half a Tuesday. Be careful with the trees with your neighbor. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the neighbor behind us cut down well three

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Speaker 1: of those trees fell down on their own. Then he

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Speaker 1: cut down a fourth one. But we got the neighbor

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Speaker 1: who's diagonally behind us to cut off to heavily pear

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Speaker 1: down the top of his tree, which is the one

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Speaker 1: that was aimed at our bedroom. So we're in much

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Speaker 1: better condition now. But I didn't even think of that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, now you can sleep.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get a tree in my head. This

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Speaker 1: is this story is interesting if you remember there have

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Speaker 1: been so many shootings. But May twenty two, the Tops

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Speaker 1: super Market supermarket in Buffalo you had an eighteen year

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Speaker 1: old guy named Peyton Gendron killed ten people, all of

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Speaker 1: them black. Three others wounded. He had driven two hundred

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Speaker 1: miles from his home. And now some families are suing

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Speaker 1: and they're suing the social media sites because they say

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Speaker 1: the social media sites allowed certain content that caused Peyton

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Speaker 1: Gendron to get addicted and radicalized him. They are suing

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Speaker 1: YouTube as well as the parent companies Alphabet and Google

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Speaker 1: and read it and they say Gendrin got radicalized because

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Speaker 1: the kind of design these social media companies have features

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Speaker 1: and they have recommendation algorithms to addict you so you

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Speaker 1: can keep reading the same hateful stuff over and over again,

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, extremism, gun violence, and you know, they make

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Speaker 1: this argument that these websites and their parent companies ought

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Speaker 1: to be held liable for creating this mass killer. The

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Speaker 1: big problem with this over the years has been that

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Speaker 1: the online companies are protected by federal law. They are

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Speaker 1: considered just carriers of information. It's like if I call

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Speaker 1: you up and make a death threat, you can't sue

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Speaker 1: the phone company for carrying the threat over their phone line.

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Speaker 1: And that's how the law looks at Facebook and YouTube

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Speaker 1: and read it and all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Is that.

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Speaker 1: No, they're just impartial, neutral carriers of information. So it's

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Speaker 1: not their fault if somebody perceives the information and then

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Speaker 1: acts on it and goes on a killing spree. I

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Speaker 1: can't think of any of these lawsuits that have actually worked.

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Speaker 1: But maybe they have some kind of new clever argument,

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Speaker 1: But so far, all these companies have been bulletproofed because

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, how many times do we read

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Speaker 1: about the postings of these lunatics or terrorists who get

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Speaker 1: inspired by other terrorists And I can't remember any even

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Speaker 1: once that a social media company has been held accountable

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Speaker 1: because the law carved out the Congress carved out an

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Speaker 1: exception for them almost thirty years ago. All right, we

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Speaker 1: come back at three o'clock hour. Means that we're going

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Speaker 1: to have on the mayor of Whittier, Joe Vinettieri, and

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Speaker 1: he's going to talk about how they're going to try

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Speaker 1: on their own to combat the homelessness because obviously a

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Speaker 1: lot of the vagrants, the mental patients, the drug addicts

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Speaker 1: are spilling over from Los Angeles, which where there are

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Speaker 1: no laws. Debora Mark Live in the twenty four hour

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