1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast named vest Vetting Podcast or radio 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: show by the Fantasy Sports and Gaming Association and the 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: number one show for the invested sports fan. 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: We're growing in job. 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 4: I'm setting it to cash to start. 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 5: We'll see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 5: go to wind. That's incredible, big bank, small bank. 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: I like to make money. All right, this is the 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: ultimate cobine. 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: You want to pull. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: And we are underway. 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to another NFL Fantasy Flex episode 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: of the award winning Action Network podcast, presented by that MGM, 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: the official odds provider of the show. I'm Matthew Friedman, 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: and here with me are Sean Corner and Chris Raybond. 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Sewn is the Action Network Director of Predictive Analytics and 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Chris is a senior editor and analyst at the Action Network, 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: or two of the very best fantasy football rankers in 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 2: the world. In this episode, we will quickly break down 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl fifty five slate from a daily fantasy perspective, 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: and then, of course we will dive headfirst into all 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: of those sweet, sweet player prop bets that you are 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: itching to hear about. It is Super Bowl fifty five Propapalooza. Gentlemen, 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: let's jump into it, and let's start with just a 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: quick overview for DFS Sean Chris Sean, I'm gonna start 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: with you big picture thoughts how to attack a smaller 28 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: or a showdown slate like this, and than any thoughts 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: you have on this game. 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 6: We've talked about it before, but when it comes to 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 6: these showdown slates, it's really up to you. When you 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 6: set your lineup, just make sure it tells a story 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 6: of a potential game unfolding. So this should be a 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 6: higher scoring game, so you're probably not gonna have kickers 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 6: or defenses in your lineup. But if you do want 36 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 6: to differentiate from the rest of the field, you know, 37 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 6: by all means create a lineup that will, you know, 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 6: be a winning lineup if it's a lower scoring game. 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 6: So you can throw a defense in there, a kicker 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 6: in there, but just you know, know that it's okay 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 6: to be controlling on these bigger, massive slates. For a 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 6: showdown slate Byron Pringle is a guy that you know, 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 6: I think is pretty cheap. He's eighteen hundred. There's a 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 6: lot of news we still need to find out when 45 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 6: it comes to DeMarcus Robinson, Sammy Watkins, and Antonio Brown. 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 6: So I don't have any specific lineups to get out, 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 6: but just just know that it when you're setting your lineup, 48 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 6: make sure it correlates well with a specific game flow 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 6: and game script that you think will be a winning one. 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Pringle is interesting, Sean because he has gotten more 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: run recently, especially with Sammy Watkins out, and even if 52 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: Watkins returns, there's still the possibility that Pringle plays as 53 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: the number three. Even if Hardman gets more targets, we 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: still might see Pringle actually getting more snaps and maybe 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: just as many targets. In the divisional round he had 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: three targets. In the Conference championship, he had five targets. 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: So someone who actually might have some usage that people 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: wouldn't expect and someone who could distinguish lineups. Raymond, what 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: are your thoughts on the showdowns late? 60 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you have to look at that price 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 7: range Byron. Pringle is one of my favorite players. I mean, 62 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 7: just assuming like there's just so much uncertainty right now, 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 7: and Pringo actually out snapped DeMarcus Robinson and mcicole Hardman 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 7: when it came to routes run according to Pro Football 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 7: Focus last week. So you know how much of that was, 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 7: you know it was just due to anything going on 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 7: with Robinson, We don't know. But Pringle did run thirty 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 7: one routes, third most on a team, behind Kelsey at 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 7: thirty five and Hill at thirty seven. And then Ronald 70 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 7: Jones is another guy just really popping out. And we'll 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 7: talk about him some more when we get to the 72 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 7: player props, but at twenty two hundred on DraftKings, he's 73 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 7: a guy who has double digit carries in each of 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 7: his last four games. Even though he's kind of second 75 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 7: fiddle to for net now you know, he's a. 76 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: Guy who they got. 77 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 7: He got all the second drive carries, Fournette got all 78 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 7: of the first I wouldn't be surprised to see them rotate. 79 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 7: And this is a thirty first ranked run defense in 80 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 7: the league. So this is a situation where Ronald Jones 81 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 7: could put up just as many points as any other 82 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 7: player on the suite, maybe outside of you know, one 83 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 7: of those big Chiefs guys. You could get him at 84 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 7: twenty two hundred, So I think that's a great value 85 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 7: as well. 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, and orry abound to your point about 87 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: Byron Pringle. He actually played the same number of snaps 88 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: as Tyreek Hill last week, which is just ridiculous. Not 89 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: that he's going to approach target chair like Tyreek Kill, 90 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: but just to kind of, you know, put a point 91 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: on it. He's at least out there playing snaps, so 92 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: someone to keep an eye on. And Ronald Jones, we 93 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: definitely will be talking about him. A quick note before 94 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: we get into the props. At Action Labs, we have 95 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: a new player prop tool that allows you to see 96 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: all the different lines out there and it also has 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: our projections, so a great resource free to use. Also, 98 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: we have a Super Bowl Insiders tool in which the 99 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: three of us highlight the Super Bowl bets that we 100 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: are making outside of the ordinary player props, so something 101 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: to check out. And as always, check out the BET 102 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: and GM player prop lines. Okay, guys, let's get into 103 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: Propapaluza and let's start with the quarterbacks. Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady. 104 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: I mean, what a Super Bowl matchup. It's awesome that 105 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: we saw this two years ago in the AFC Championship 106 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: Game and now we get this in the Super Bowl. 107 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: It's interesting because quarterback lines, I think you know tend 108 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: to be fairly efficient and so not always sure where 109 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: to attack them. Sean, I'm going to kick it to 110 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: you with Mahomes or with Brady, whether it's passing or rushing. 111 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: Are there props that you see right now that you like? 112 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, so let's start with Mahomes. You know, when it 113 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 6: comes to his passing yardage, I'm right in line. I think, 114 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 6: you know three twenty six and a half would be 115 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 6: my media and I think this is a matchup where 116 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 6: no line can be too high for the Homes. I 117 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 6: really think that they're just gonnam beat in the run here. 118 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 6: Why why even try running against the Buccaneers. So I think, 119 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 6: you know Mahomes will be slinging around. However, I do 120 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 6: like the under twenty eight and a half completions. It's 121 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 6: minus one twenty four at most books. You know, his 122 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 6: medium this year has been twenty five. He's gone under 123 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 6: this number, you know, I think eleven of seventeen games, 124 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 6: so he's gone under sixty five percent of the time. 125 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 6: You know, I have this closer to twenty seven, So 126 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 6: I am I'm boosting his projection for this game, and 127 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 6: I'm still getting quite a bit of value. And you know, 128 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 6: a market like this, every completion matters. You know, every 129 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 6: completion in a market like this is worth about six percent. 130 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 6: So you know, if you can get under twenty and 131 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 6: a half, I would do it, And you know I'd 132 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 6: probably bet it down to minus one fifty. 133 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: That's probably the. 134 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 6: Only angle I'm going to be betting any sort of under. 135 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 6: When it comes to homes, I'm showing a little bit 136 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 6: of value on the under two and a half passing touchdowns. 137 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 6: I think it should be closer to even money. Some 138 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 6: places have plus one twenty. I'm just going to pass 139 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 6: on that. I'm not interested in rooting for Mahomes to 140 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 6: throw less than three touchdowns. But I think this completion 141 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 6: prop is an angle to attack. You know, he will 142 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 6: get some explosive completion, so you know he'll rack up 143 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 6: a ton of yards and you know, twenty six to 144 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 6: twenty seven completion. So I think that we have a 145 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 6: little bit more wiggering when it comes as completion prop. 146 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 6: I think it's a little overinflated. So that's the only 147 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 6: under I'm betting so far on the homes. 148 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, a few thoughts on mahomes here. So one, I 149 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: am taking the under on nineteen and a half yards 150 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: rushing because we have seen him with the toe injury 151 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: seemingly be just a little less willing to take off. 152 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: I believe last week or two weeks ago rather in 153 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: the championship game Conference Championship, he had five yards, and 154 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: then the week before that the Division round, I think 155 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: he had fourteen yards rushing. So I think we will 156 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: just see Mahomes a little less desirous to take off 157 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: running and staying in the pocket a little bit more 158 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: so going under nineteen and a half yards rushing. Sean, 159 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: I'm with you there on under twenty eight and a 160 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: half completions. I think you said you have it closer 161 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: to twenty six and a half, right, twenty seven twenty seven. 162 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: I have it around twenty six. I feel as if 163 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: that might be a little bit too low, but I'd 164 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: like to get Raybond's thoughts on that. And then also 165 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: I'll just say, I think the line that we are 166 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: seeing here for Mahomes, and if you look, I mean 167 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: it's three twenty five and a half, three twenty nine 168 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: and a half for passing. I think that's the highest 169 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: number I've seen all season. Not one hundred percent sure 170 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 2: on that, but I mean, it's if it's not the highest, 171 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: it's right up there. Raybond, what are your thoughts on 172 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: that line and how high it is. 173 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's actually right in line with my of what 174 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 7: his average would be if if you played this out 175 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 7: a bunch of times. I have it at three twenty seven, 176 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 7: so you take a little down for the for the median, 177 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 7: but you know I have him at twenty eight completion. 178 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 7: So I'm actually, you know, kind of in line with 179 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 7: the market on most of on his projections. I do think, uh, 180 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 7: there could be some value on the on the under 181 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 7: on his rushing yards though he hasn't been scrambling quite 182 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 7: as much as of late, and he's also gotten you know, 183 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 7: with the Chiefs winning a bunch of kneel downs, and 184 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 7: I think, you know, when you're betting these rushing yard props, 185 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 7: you talk about every yard mattering. I think it's just 186 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 7: imperative to kind of separate out kneel downs and scrambles 187 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 7: and you know, in the design runs, so you're not 188 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 7: just you know, kind of using a certain yard per 189 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 7: carrier number. I think I think mahomes under rushing yards 190 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 7: is is probably the best value I see on the 191 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 7: board in terms of Mahomes. But for Brady, I think 192 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 7: he's an interesting pick for a long shot pick for 193 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 7: first touchdown. I believe he's at thirty five hundred on 194 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 7: DraftKings and you know his anytime touchdown ons as well, 195 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 7: and looking at those, he's actually scored four rushing touchdowns 196 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 7: this year. You wouldn't think so for for a guy 197 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 7: who's forty three years young. But the Chiefs also gave 198 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 7: up the top five amount of rushing touchdowns to quarterbacks. 199 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 7: And it wasn't just guys like Scrambling. You had four 200 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 7: of those seven coming from a yard out. So if 201 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 7: you're looking for a long shot bet brady first touchdown 202 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,239 Speaker 7: might just be to one. 203 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: Sean anything on Brady catch your eye, No, but. 204 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 6: Real quick shout out to ravaon on the kneel down angle. 205 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 6: You can't forget last year. I remember having Mahomes under 206 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 6: thirty and a half rushing yards. He had forty rushing 207 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 6: yards going to the final drive, and he kneeled down 208 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 6: was at two or three times for negative ten yards. 209 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: It was amazing. It was amazing. Yeah, it wasn't just 210 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: your standardkneel down. It was him backing up really looking 211 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 2: to milk the clock out before he would take the knee. 212 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: It was it was fantastic. 213 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 6: That was amazing. When it comes to Brady, I'm not 214 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 6: touching anything yet, but his passing yard total is a 215 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 6: bit high. It's it's two ninety six and a half 216 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 6: right now, and I have a closer to eighty eight. 217 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 6: And you know, when it comes to these passing yard props, 218 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 6: it takes you know, I would say ten yards off 219 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 6: for me to even initiate a bet. The truth is, 220 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 6: when it comes to these markets, you know, just six 221 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 6: or seven yards isn't going to move the needle much. 222 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 6: It's not going to cover the veig. So you know, 223 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 6: passing yards has to be way off for me to 224 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 6: bet it. So even though I'm seven yards off at 225 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 6: the moment, I'm not betting it now. However, if I 226 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 6: do end up betting on quite a few butt players 227 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 6: to go under the receiving total, which I might, then 228 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 6: I'll probably just double down and bet Brady's under that. 229 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: You know, I'm. 230 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 6: Limited on a lot of my player props, So one 231 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 6: way to kind of get like a sort of parlay 232 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 6: situation out there is to kind of just bet on 233 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 6: correlative props. 234 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: So with Brady. 235 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 6: Once I lock in few players to go under the 236 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 6: receiving total, I think I'll also lock in Brady's total. 237 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 6: But if you're just betting at Stanalon, I don't think 238 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 6: it offers that much value. 239 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: And I mean this kind of touches on what Rayvon 240 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: talked about and Sean, what you just talked about. There 241 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: some books are right now allowing people to bet correlated 242 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: in game parlays or same sorry, same game parlays, and 243 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: I mean this I think is a perfect situation because 244 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: you can get something like, you know, Brady scoring the 245 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: first touchdown parlayed with Brady winning MVP or something like that, 246 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: or you know, Brady's over on the rushing yardage something 247 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: like that, to where you can, Sean, as you said 248 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: in the DFS segment, kind of tell a story with 249 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: the props that you're betting and the ones that are correlated. 250 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: Because there are just many more markets for this game 251 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: relative to your average football game. There are more opportunities 252 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: for you to find correlation and leverage it that way. 253 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: So something to keep in mind. And Sean, I'm with you. 254 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: If I had to take one of the Brady bets, 255 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: I haven't bet anything on Brady, yet if I had to, 256 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: it would be the under on his passing yardage, just 257 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: based on the strength of the strength of the Chiefs defense, 258 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: which is really schemed to take away big shots deep 259 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: and big shots on the perimeter, and that is where 260 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: the strength of the Bucks offense is with their wide receivers. 261 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: If they get into a situation where they are funneling 262 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: targets to the tight ends into the running backs, I 263 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: think that will make it harder for Brady to hit 264 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 2: the over on his yardage total. So that is something 265 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: that has my eye there. Let's talk about the running 266 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: backs here, Leonard Fournette, Ronald Jones on the side for 267 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers, and then Clyde Edwards, Hilaire, Darryl Williams, and 268 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: maybe Le'Veon Bell for the Chiefs. Although I'm looking at 269 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: it now, I don't know if I have seen any 270 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: Le'Veon Bell props out there. So something to keep an 271 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: eye on, because if there are Leveon Bell props out there, 272 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: I would be highly interested in pounding the unders there. 273 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: But let's talk about the running backs. We already have 274 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: props for Fournette, Jones, Edwards, Layer and Darryl Williams Sean 275 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: anything catch your eye out of those guys. 276 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 6: To be honest, this is a terrible Super Bowl when 277 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 6: it comes to projecting running backs. Both running back situations 278 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 6: are pretty tricky. I think you know the Bucks will 279 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 6: be you know, Leonard Fournette dominating the receiving work and 280 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 6: Ronald Jones. I mean last week or the last time 281 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 6: they played. I had the over his on his rushing 282 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 6: yards because I thought he'd see ten to twelve carries 283 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 6: and that's exactly what happened, but he only produced was 284 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 6: at seventeen nineteen rushing yards. So you know, I'm tempted 285 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 6: to go the over thirty five and a half rushing 286 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 6: yards for Ronald Jones here. I think, you know, the 287 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 6: Chiefs defense will bait the Buccaneers into running the ball 288 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 6: and this will correlate nicely with a lot of the 289 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 6: Buccaneers receiving unders I have and potentially Brady's under, So 290 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 6: you know, the Buccaneers are going to have to move 291 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 6: all some way, and I think Ronald Jones could be 292 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 6: that way on the ground and then Leonard four at 293 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 6: his receiving props. Those have been money the past few games. 294 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 6: But I think that this line's pretty good. I have 295 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 6: no lean one way of another on four net, but 296 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 6: it's just tricky, and you know, when it comes to 297 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 6: the Chiefs running backs, I'm just avoiding them altogether. When 298 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 6: it comes to the rushing props, I just have no 299 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 6: read on it. I locked in Darryl Williams under two 300 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 6: and a half perceptions at minus one thirty immediately last week. 301 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 6: That's the only prop I locked in last week, and 302 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 6: it's down to minus two hundred and some books. I 303 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 6: would bet it down to minus two twenty. That's where 304 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 6: I have the fair odds on that. But otherwise I'm 305 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 6: treating these very cautiously because it's going to be more 306 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 6: of a hot hand approach, and when you have that 307 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 6: kind of situation, it's hard to find an edge. So 308 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 6: I'll be passing on a lot of the running back props. 309 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of uncertainty in the running back market. 310 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: There are a couple of things that catch my eye. 311 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: One last week, the line that popped out the most 312 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: to me out of any prop I saw was Darryl 313 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: Williams under forty one and a half yards rushing. That 314 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: just seemed egregious, especially considering that the Buccaneers are so 315 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: stout against the run, and we could see a situation 316 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: where Edward Layer comes in and is really the lead back. 317 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: That line has actually been bet down to let me 318 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: make sure I have it right here. That has been 319 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: bet down to thirty and a half from forty one 320 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: and a half. So part of me is just thinking, honestly, 321 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: I might try to get that middle there, but I 322 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: haven't bet it yet. I still think that even thirty 323 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: and a half is a titch too high, but I 324 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't bet it at thirty and a half, So still 325 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: kind of thinking about what I might end up doing. 326 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: In fact, it's actually now twenty eight and a half 327 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: at one book, and at that number, I really might 328 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: be inclined to try to grab the middle. But that 329 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: is one thing that has come to my eye of 330 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: just Daryl Williams. I'm pretty pessimistic on everything to do 331 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: with him, just because that Bucks defense is pretty stout 332 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: against running backs. I'm with you on Ronald Jones. I 333 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: have over eight and a half carries. I've locked that in. 334 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: I think that number should be closer to around ten 335 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: ten and a half, so I feel pretty decent about 336 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: that number and Honestly, Leonard Fournette is the guy who's 337 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: kind of standing out to me and Rayvon, I want 338 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on this, not so much on 339 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: the actual props that are out there. I haven't bet 340 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: any of those, just in terms of like the over 341 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: under for his yardage or carries or anything like that. 342 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: But this feels like it could actually be a Leonard 343 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: Fournette game, which sounds disgusting to say, But we know 344 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: that the Chiefs are weak against the run, and we 345 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: know that they are weak in pass defense against running backs, 346 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: and it might be a situation. We know that Brady 347 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: historically has started slow in Super Bowls. It might be 348 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: a situation where the Buccaneers really try to slow the 349 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: game down, keep the Chiefs offense on the sideline by 350 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: funneling things through not through Ronald Jones, although I think 351 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: he will get a little bit of usage, but through 352 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: Leonard Fournette. And you know, we've seen Fournette have around 353 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: twenty a little more than twenty opportunities in the playoffs 354 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: each game. I mean, I could see a situation where 355 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: if it's a low scoring game and Fournette has over 356 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: twenty opportunities over one hundred yards from scrimmage and somehow 357 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 2: gets multiple touchdowns, he could end up somehow being MVP. 358 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, like, if you have this narrative 359 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: of how he could get there, I think parlay all 360 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 2: of these different player props along with him getting the MVP, 361 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: because that is the way in which it would happen. 362 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: Ronald Jones having a good rushing game and then I 363 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: think especially having a receiving game where he goes over 364 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: his player prop. So that's something to kind of keep 365 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: in mind. Whatever the touchdown number is for Leonard Fournette, 366 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: if he gets there, it's going to be because he 367 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: scores I'd say at least one touchdown, probably two touchdowns. 368 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't believe I just went on about 369 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 2: Leonard Fournette because it's not as if I'm like really 370 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: even all that hot on him. It's just like, based 371 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: on the matchup and how weak the Chiefs are against 372 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: running backs, like I could see an avenue there for 373 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: four Nette having a much bigger game than people would expect. Rayvon, 374 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: tell me why I'm wrong. 375 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 7: My projections have been above market on four Nett pretty 376 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 7: much the entire playoffs, So I completely understand Sean kind 377 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 7: of alluded to it, but these running back props are 378 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 7: are hard to bet, not only because we have these 379 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 7: two backfields where you are seeing something close to a 380 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 7: fifty to fifty split at least in you know, the 381 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 7: rushing portion, but it's the spread is a three point game. 382 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 7: I know most of us haven't projected somewhere in there, 383 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 7: maybe here little Hire Friedman, but it really a lot 384 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 7: of it's going to come down a game script. And 385 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 7: so you know, a bet like even Ronald Jones going 386 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 7: over eight and a half carries, well, the Bucks have won, 387 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 7: you know what, they haven't lost since November. I think 388 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 7: it was early December, so you know, he's his carry 389 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 7: numbers have been up in positive game script, but the 390 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 7: Chiefs can score and a hurry. 391 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 4: And then on the other hand, you know Daryl. 392 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 7: Williams, he was under that his prop last week until 393 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 7: you know, into the fourth quarter. 394 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: I think we were talking about it. 395 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 8: So yeah, you don't have to remind me, no, I mean, 396 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 8: it's it's just one of those situations where I do 397 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 8: think that, like the running back props in general are 398 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 8: going to be that most high variance, and I'm not 399 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 8: sure there is. 400 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 7: Necessarily a enough reward to kind of go with them 401 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 7: over some other guys. I do think that if you 402 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 7: are looking for an MVP bet, I would take both 403 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 7: books running backs. I do think Edwards Dulaire just his 404 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 7: odds are shorter, I believe, and I just don't think 405 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 7: or equal to Fournette and then shorter obviously the Drones. 406 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 7: I think Jones is actually an interesting long shot MVP bet. 407 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 4: You know, we saw him one hundred and. 408 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 7: Three yards on ten touches with a long touchdown in 409 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 7: the first meeting, and I think that Jones could be 410 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 7: a lot more involved this week because you are playing 411 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 7: at Kansas City. Run defense mentioned that Jones kind of 412 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 7: had the second drive. 413 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: All to himself last week. 414 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 7: This is a situation where I think the Bucks may 415 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 7: want to kind of get both of those guys involved 416 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 7: and Jones getting a little healthier. So I think it 417 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 7: just happens to be on the week that we're not 418 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 7: coming off like four nets, like third straight week of 419 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 7: catching a bunch of passes and putting up, you know, 420 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 7: big numbers that I think there's a little more value 421 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 7: tilting to Ronald Jones in first touchdown at eighteen to 422 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 7: one for first touchdown is MVP adds things like that, 423 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 7: I think there's actually some value on Jones. 424 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 4: But I agree. 425 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 7: I think when you just look at yardage in West 426 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 7: Tampa Bay, it's down big. 427 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: I think the yard is gonna have to come from somewhere. 428 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 7: And Kansas City's been top two against wide receivers the 429 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 7: last two years and yardage week yardage, and that's a 430 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 7: lot of Tampa Bay's yardage. 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I think those 445 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 6: might be the way to attack it because raybound, like 446 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 6: you said, game script won't be an issue in the 447 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 6: first quarter, and the Chiefs they typically defer the kickoff. 448 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 6: The Buccaneers, I think, whilst I look are like minus 449 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 6: two hundred to receive the opening kickoffs, so they're probably 450 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 6: gonna get. 451 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: The ball first. 452 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 6: I think just attacking these running back crops the first 453 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 6: quarter might be the way to go. 454 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: Sean, I think that's great. I absolutely love that angle. 455 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, because I'm just looking I haven't done any projections yet, 456 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 6: but looking at Fournette since week thirteen, he's averaged fifty yards, 457 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 6: which is pretty close to his prop Uh, He's averaged 458 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 6: sixteen yards in the first quarter, so there be some 459 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 6: value there. 460 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, as the game wars on, they tend to use 461 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 7: for net more in the path role and they tend 462 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 7: to throw it more. 463 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 3: So Yeah, that's a good call. 464 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 7: And then like if you're projecting by drive, I think 465 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 7: that would definitely favor kind of earlier in the game. 466 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the wide receivers here, and 467 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: as we were recording this, there is definitely uncertainty with 468 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: both of these units. Sammy Watkins. I imagine that he's 469 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: going to play, but he's still dealing with a calf 470 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: injury that kept him sidelined in the divisional round and 471 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 2: the Conference championship. DeMarcus Robinson is on the COVID nineteen 472 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: reserve list as a close contact, so it's tentatively expected 473 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: that he will be activated and able to play in 474 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, but that is not a certainty. And 475 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: then Antonio Brown was actually listed as doubtful last week, 476 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 2: although there certainly is time still for him to be 477 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: healthy enough to at least suit up for the Super Bowl. 478 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: So uncertainty with the wide receivers, but a lot of 479 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: guys for us to talk about. Rayvaughn, I'm gonna kick 480 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: it to you first, Tyreek Hill, I mean, Mike Evans, 481 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 2: Chris Godwin, and then of course some of the other 482 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: wide receivers, Mikole Hardman, Byron Pringle, even and then Scottie Miller, 483 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: Tyler Johnson, anyone catch your eye from a prop perspective. 484 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 7: So talked about this in our We had a first 485 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 7: Touchdown draft at Action Network and it was a value 486 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 7: draft and I was up second and I took the 487 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 7: truck in Tyreek Hill at six to one, and you 488 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 7: could get a better even better at some books. I 489 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 7: think we were using draftings ods, but that's kind of 490 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 7: in line. 491 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: With his true odds. 492 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 7: And I love Tyreek Hill as a first touchdown bet. 493 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 7: You know you're still getting plus money there and you 494 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 7: look at Tyreek Hill. He's number two in the NFL 495 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 7: in first quarter receiving touchdown first quarter targets. Since twenty eighteen, 496 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 7: he's tied for the league lead with in. 497 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 4: First quarter touchdow. 498 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 5: Uh. 499 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 7: This year he's gotten he's tied for the team lead 500 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 7: with Kelsey, but he's very skewed to the second half 501 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 7: of the year. And Uh, he scored two touchdowns before 502 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 7: anyone out scored in the first meeting. 503 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: Between these two teams. 504 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 7: He's just so hard to stop, even in defensive coordinators 505 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 7: are looking to take him away. So I kind of 506 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 7: I like the kind of more exotic Tyreek kill props. 507 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 7: I think, you know, anytime you're talking about yardage US, 508 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 7: you know that it's gonna be so volatile, especially because 509 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 7: we still don't know what's going on with key players 510 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 7: on both of these receiving cores. It's really hard for 511 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 7: me to say, you know, bet this yardage proper, bet 512 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 7: that yardage prop. But I do think that you know, 513 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 7: this is the highest uh where it's gonna It's projectedly 514 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 7: one of the highest highest scoring super Bowls ever. So 515 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 7: I think there's some good value to be had on 516 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 7: some of these, on some of these touchdown props, and 517 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 7: they're gonna be pretty fun to watch. 518 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: All right, Sean. I believe that we are kind of 519 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: on opposite sides here of Tyreek kill Uh donkey than 520 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: I am. I am going over ninety one and a 521 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: half yards receiving. I see that you are going under 522 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: six and a half receptions. Now, in theory, they both 523 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: could hit, but you know that's that's not incredibly likely. 524 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: Make the case for Tyreek Hill under six and a 525 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 2: half receptions, and then I will make the case for 526 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill. Why I'm going over ninety one and a 527 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 2: half receiving yards. 528 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, So first off, I'm in line with Raybond here. 529 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 6: I haven't locked any of these receiving props, and I'm 530 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 6: waiting for the DeMarcus Robinson news Antonio Brown. There's all 531 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 6: sorts of things swirling around, but I do think that 532 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 6: we could both win our bets here. I love the 533 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 6: under six and a half just because of the value provides. 534 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 6: I don't want to root against Tyreek Hill in this matchup, 535 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 6: but he's only gone over this number in five of 536 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 6: seventeen games. That's a twenty nine percent clip. Now, however, 537 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 6: you know he's got over this number each of the 538 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 6: last two games, and against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when 539 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 6: he got thirteen balls back in the week twelve. So 540 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 6: that's probably what's feeding into a lot of the overaction 541 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 6: here and partly why I'm scared about it already. But 542 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 6: you know, when it comes to prop like this, you're right. 543 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 6: I rather attack the under receptions than the under receiving 544 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 6: yards for Terry because you know he's a seven yard 545 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 6: touchdown waiting to happen. So I think that the way 546 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 6: you do a tackle pair like this is you attack 547 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,239 Speaker 6: the median for receptions. So yeah, I love the under six. 548 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 6: Now here, I could see the Buccaneers trying to shut 549 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 6: down Tyrek Hill, and when I mean shut down, like 550 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 6: five catches for ninety yards and allow you know, underneath 551 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 6: passes to Travis Kelcey. You know, it's sort of a 552 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 6: pick your poison scenario. But I think if the Buccaneers 553 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 6: let Terry Hill get over seven catches, they have some problems. 554 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 6: So I think this is the one. The only market 555 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 6: I think you could bet against Terry Kill would be 556 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 6: the under six and a half receptions here at plus one fourteen. 557 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, everyone has a plan to stop Tyreek 558 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 2: Hill and then the game starts. I just don't I 559 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: don't see how it's going to happen. I don't think 560 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: that they have the cornerback who can with Tyreek Hill. 561 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: I know that Jamel Dean, I believe he didn't play 562 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: in Week twelve and so they were at a disadvantage. 563 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: He's the one guy in that secondary who really does 564 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: have the speed at the combine. He ran a four 565 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: to three forty times, so he has the speed to 566 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: hang with Hill, but that still doesn't mean he actually 567 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: has like the actual corner cover skills to hang with Hill. 568 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: And on top of that, the Chiefs are one of 569 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: the best teams in the league at moving their guys 570 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: across the formation anyway, So Jamel Dean plays almost exclusively 571 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: on the outside. It's not as if he's going to 572 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: follow Hill into the slot. So one way or another, 573 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: I think we're going to see Hill get a ton 574 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: of targets, and I think he's going to be going 575 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: against guys who cannot help, who cannot cover him. And 576 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: we saw in the Super Bowl last year he had 577 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: sixteen targets in the two playoff games. This year, he 578 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: has twenty one targets against the Bucks. In Week twelve, 579 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: he had fifteen targets, which he turned into a career 580 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: best thirteen receptions, two hundred and sixty nine yards and 581 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: three touchdowns. Like, the best guy, the best coverman that 582 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: the Bucks have is in theory, Carlton Davis, and he 583 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: just got destroyed in one quarter of football by Tyreek Hill. 584 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: He'll destroyed him so much that they basically just stopped 585 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: using Davis in shadow coverage for the second half of 586 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: the year. Like that's that's basically like how traumatized he 587 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: was that they were just like, okay, you just staying 588 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: on that side of the field, don't worry about following 589 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: anyone anywhere. I think He'll is going to smash. So 590 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: some of this is maybe narrative driven, but I just 591 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: think from a matchup perspective, the Bucks don't have someone 592 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: who can hang with him, and from the volume perspective, 593 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: of how Hill has been used in big games, like 594 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: the targets, the share of targets that he's gotten in 595 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: big games. I think he's going to get enough targets 596 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: to go well over ninety one and a half. Rayvon, 597 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: tell me why I'm wrong. I don't think you're wrong. 598 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: I mean I was it. 599 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 7: I I tried to Conciraean a little bit about Travis Kelsey. 600 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: I think it was last week. 601 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 7: I get this two guys on the Chiefs and they're 602 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 7: just they're just Patrick Mahomes is so good that they're 603 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 7: so good that it could just get so much, so 604 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 7: much of the yards, and it creates such volatility here 605 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 7: that I would rather just go under with like every 606 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 7: other Chiefs player, like you know, from from the from 607 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 7: the like Robinson, the Hartman to to you know Pringle, 608 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 7: I mean Pringle maybe over, but uh, Edwards Alayer Williams, 609 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 7: like you're Tyreek Kirke is just so explosive that it's tough. 610 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 7: And and this is also three points spread. And yes, 611 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 7: the Chiefs have been playing in some closer games down 612 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 7: the stretch, but uh, in comparison to their kind of 613 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 7: three year average, when you have expectations for Tyreek Kale. 614 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 4: This is expected to be one of the closer. 615 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 7: Games they play, and you know that that's kind of 616 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 7: lends itself to, you know, receivers and quarterbacks having to 617 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 7: you know, keep throwing it down the stretch and maybe 618 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 7: he gets another underneath one. So for me, it's it's 619 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 7: more about, you know, kind of attacking some of the 620 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 7: role players, just because the Chiefs have have shown us 621 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 7: in these playoffs after you know, we kind of wondered, 622 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 7: are they okay, you know, I close the season out 623 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 7: kind of shaky, like they've really shown that they can 624 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 7: get the ball to to their premier playmakers in the Bucks. 625 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 7: By the way, Yeah, so the Bucks allowed a sixty 626 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 7: nine percent completion rate during the regular season and that 627 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 7: was fourth highest in the league. So even though the 628 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 7: Bucks have, uh, you know, what's thought as a very 629 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 7: talented defense, and they absolutely do, they are going to 630 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 7: give up completions. They are not going to be able 631 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 7: to play this like they played Breeze a couple of 632 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 7: weeks ago and just pressed, they're going to have to 633 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 7: you know, kind of place, you know, play back and 634 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 7: kind of I don't think they're going to have nearly 635 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 7: as much success as they did on Aaron Rodgers. 636 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 3: So for me, it's it's overs. 637 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 7: Or nothing with with with the top guys on the 638 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 7: chiefs Kelsey, and he'll all right. 639 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 2: Well, I think one area where Sean would agree with 640 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: you is the idea of taking some unders on these 641 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: other guys. I know and I are both looking under 642 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: on Sammy Watkins. I'm specifically under thirty six and a 643 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: half yards, Sean, I believe you're under thirty six and 644 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: a half yards as well, and also under on the 645 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: receiving total. Talk about what you see there. 646 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, with Sammy Watkins, you know, assuming he's going to play, 647 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 6: I don't think he'll be close to one hundred percent 648 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 6: or at least see the usage we're accustomed to it. 649 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 6: When it comes to him, I think, you know, they're 650 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 6: gonna have to get harm and involved. And Kringle we 651 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 6: already talked about earlier, was heavily involved last week. So 652 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 6: I think that's gonna come at Watkins expense. So yeah, 653 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 6: I love the under three and a half receptions and 654 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 6: thirty six and a half receiving yards. You know, going 655 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 6: back to Ravo with Tyry Kill, I know that Terry 656 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 6: Kill is good, okay, but you have to understand that, 657 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 6: like the money is flooding in on the over and 658 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 6: it's it's creeping up to seven and a half receptions now, 659 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 6: so I would hope at seven and a half receptions 660 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 6: there's some resistance for you to at least consider the under. 661 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 6: But yeah, but when it comes to a I like Watkins, 662 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 6: I think he's going to be more of a decoy. 663 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 6: I don't see him being evolved too much. So I 664 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 6: love his owners. But again, this depends on DeMarcus Robinson's 665 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 6: COVID test. If he's out, you know, my projections for 666 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 6: Watkins are gonna go way up. So this is this 667 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 6: is a hold for now. 668 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously we have to wait and see what 669 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: happens with Robinson. Sean, I think with the numbers out 670 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: there right now, you actually might like Robinson a little bit. 671 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: I hate Robinson. I'll just right well, I. 672 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 6: Hate Robinson as well, but my numbers say otherwise. That's 673 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 6: always the case. 674 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, so I would be betting under under one 675 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: and a half receptions for Robinson if he's active under 676 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: thirteen and a half yards receiving. I mean, it's it's 677 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: a very freedman thing to trash a number three, number 678 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: four receiver on a team and just hammer the unders 679 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: with him. Let's talk about the Buccaneers receivers. I'm almost 680 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: just blanket undering these guys, and a big that is 681 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: because of the scheme that the Chiefs run. They allowed 682 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 2: the fewest receptions to wide receivers in the regular season, 683 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: the second fewest yards. And you know, Mike Evans scored 684 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: two touchdowns against the Chiefs in Week twelve, but had 685 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 2: I believe just fifty yards receiving, I'm going under Mike 686 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: Evans sixty three and a half yards receiving, under Chris 687 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 2: Godwin seventy seven and a half yards receiving. We have 688 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: to wait and see what happens with Antonio Brown because that, 689 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: you know, might impact what happens with Scotty Miller and 690 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: Tyler Johnson. But I'm thinking it's likelier than not the 691 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: Brown plays. I might be wrong there, but if Brown plays, 692 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm certainly going under Scotty Miller. And I'm honestly just 693 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: taking the under on Miller right now because if Brown 694 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: is active, then we're going to have worst numbers on Miller. 695 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: So I'm going under Miller right now. But Sean, what 696 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 2: are your thoughts on these Buccaneers wide receivers. 697 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I have a similar plan as you. I think 698 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 6: I'm passing on Mike Evans. I'm in line with Evans. 699 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 6: And if you're betting under on you know, three of 700 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 6: these receivers or tight ends, you need someone to step up. 701 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 6: So I think I'll just pass on Evans all together 702 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 6: and hopefully he puts up one hundred and fift yard 703 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 6: game which will help these owners hit. But yeah, I'm 704 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 6: under Godwin just based on the number. Seventy seven and 705 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 6: a half is pretty high. There's nothing about the matchup 706 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 6: that particularly scares me, but seventy seven and a half. 707 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 6: If you look at the market, some books are at 708 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 6: seventy one and a half, somewhere at seventy three and 709 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 6: a half, so it's all over the place. So if 710 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 6: you have access to seventy seven and a half, I 711 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 6: would take the under. Now, you know, when it comes 712 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 6: to Scotty Miller, it absolutely depends on if Antonio Brown's 713 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 6: gonna play. Twenty and a half seems pretty high. If 714 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 6: Brown's in, I'm smashing that under all day as well. 715 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 6: If you know the one and a half receptions, you 716 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 6: call that too, So I'm going to have the under 717 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 6: on that, and then I guess the other guy who 718 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 6: didn't talk about is tight end, so I'll hold off 719 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 6: on that. But yeah, so if I'm to be attacking 720 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 6: the Godwin under, the Miller under, and the break under, 721 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 6: I think I will correlate that with the Brady passing 722 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 6: yards from earlier. 723 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I actually do think it's it's somewhat 724 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: of a tough matchup for Godwin. I remember early in 725 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: the season Raybon singing the praises of Algerius Snead, who 726 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: at the time was playing on the perimeter and then 727 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 2: now has been moved into the slot and has just 728 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: really been a shutdown type of guy. Even though he's 729 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 2: a mid round rookie, He's looked really good, and so 730 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 2: it's it's not an easy matchup for Godwin. He certainly 731 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: will move around the formation a little bit, so it's 732 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: not as if it's, you know, locked down against al 733 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: Jerious Sneed the whole game. But I do think it's 734 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: a tougher matchup for him, and I think it's a 735 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 2: tough matchup just for all of these receivers in general. Raybon, 736 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 2: where are you on the Buccaneers Yeah. 737 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 3: So here's the thing. 738 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 7: Like it, it is a tougher matchup statistically speaking, you know, 739 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 7: we have seen that the Chiefs for two years now 740 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 7: under Steve Spend no be able to funnel the football. 741 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 4: Away from the perimeter. 742 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 7: They play more, they play more cover two show. According 743 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 7: to Sports Info solutions, if you look at the numbers, 744 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 7: then pretty much any other team, whether it's you know, zone, 745 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 7: whether it's some cover to man. You know, they obviously 746 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 7: have Honey Badger who they can kind of rotate between 747 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 7: coming down to the line and playing deep. But you 748 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 7: also have the situation where it's Tom Brady. There's a 749 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 7: chance that you know, the Chiefs could score points in 750 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 7: a hurry in this one and get up big like 751 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 7: they like they did. 752 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 3: In the last one. 753 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 7: And uh, you know, passing yards aren't really like they're 754 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 7: like there's a lot of empty passing yards going around 755 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 7: the league these days. So I'm not really comfortable kind 756 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 7: of backing the Bucks unders just based on the pure numbers, 757 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 7: because again you have a situation where just looking at 758 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 7: the looking at it objectively. Uh, the Bucks lost five 759 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 7: games this year, two of them were to the Saints. 760 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 7: No one else beat them by more than a few, 761 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 7: So this is you know, this is kind of on 762 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 7: this on the spectrum, you know, what a tough game 763 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 7: for still one of the tougher games for the Bucks, 764 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 7: and they could just be throwing a football more like. 765 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 7: I had the Evans under last week and I thought 766 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 7: that was gonna be money in the bank, and then 767 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 7: he had forty something yards in the first quarter. He 768 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 7: still ended up going under because he dropped like five passes. 769 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 7: But I think we've we've banked, We've hit the Evans 770 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 7: unders like four or five weeks in a row. I 771 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 7: think going back, a bunch of us are on it. 772 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 7: I think it might be the time to get off, 773 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 7: because you know, this is a Super Bowl and I 774 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 7: don't really see as much value anymore. He's he's the 775 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 7: volatility is just kind of fifty to fifty at this point, 776 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 7: where you know, even with one catch at this point 777 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 7: he could he may go over that. So I think 778 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 7: Godwin's a little more feasible because you did see the Chiefs, 779 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 7: you know, with el Jarious sneed and with don't forget 780 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 7: Honey Badger can play some some slot corner. They limited 781 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 7: Jarvis Landry to twenty yards on ten targets. In a 782 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 7: comeback game script for the Cleveland Browns a couple of 783 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 7: weeks ago in the playoffs. So I think Godwin would 784 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 7: be the guy. But he's also tough because you plot 785 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 7: his receiving yards this year against his expected receiving yards, 786 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 7: and he must have dropped like four or five hundred 787 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 7: yards of passes over the past few games. 788 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 3: I mean, it's nuts. 789 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 7: So you know, they're kind of both a little bit scary. 790 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 7: But I lean towards Godwin and over Evans because you're 791 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 7: kind of getting that split now where Godwin's had a 792 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 7: great matchup last week, he exploited it. Evans dropped some balls, 793 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 7: and you're seeing that split between them a little too 794 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 7: high and higher than I think it should be. 795 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: All Right, let's talk about the tight ends, and of 796 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 2: course Travis Kelcey is the guy who occupies everyone's thoughts. 797 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: And then we have on the buccaneer side, Rob Gronkowski 798 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 2: and Cameron Brad. I'll just say I'm the donkey and 799 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 2: I'm betting over on Gronk, and I almost don't care 800 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. I will be very happy to be 801 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: betting on I don't know if I can say like 802 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 2: he's the greatest tight end of all time in a 803 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: game in which he's going against Gronk. But Kelsey really 804 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 2: is maybe at this point like he has the record 805 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: for receiving yards for a tight end. In terms of 806 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 2: what he does, he really might be the most dominant 807 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 2: tight end of all time, and there's nothing to suggest 808 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 2: that the Buccaneers have the ability to stop him. I 809 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: believe that they ranked number twenty seven in past DVOA 810 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 2: against tight ends, and Kelsey's usage, especially since I believe 811 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:36,959 Speaker 2: Week eight, has just been absolutely ridiculous. He has since 812 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: then ten targets, a minimum of ten targets in every 813 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 2: game but one, eight receptions in every game but one, 814 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 2: and he's like one hundred yard factory where just it 815 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: feels like almost every week he's just hitting that threshold, 816 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: if not hitting it, coming pretty close. So I'm going 817 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 2: over Kelsey seven and a night half receptions over ninety 818 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 2: four and a half yards receiving. Again, I feel like 819 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 2: I'm being a donkey because I know that it's it's 820 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: like the fishy thing to do to bet the over 821 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 2: on a big name player, but I don't know. I 822 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 2: just think that this is Kelsey spot Sean. Where are you. 823 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 6: Well, I will tell you one thing. Don't bet on 824 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 6: the Kelsey under because everybody will have to remind you 825 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 6: how good Travis Kelsey is. I know how good he is, 826 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 6: so I'm not betting the over under on any of 827 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 6: his receiving props. What I'm going to do instead is 828 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 6: bet on his ceiling and bet on him to win 829 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 6: MVP at fifteen to one. I think that's what I'm 830 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 6: going to do, so I get to that later, but 831 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 6: I'm with you, like, there's no reason to bet against 832 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 6: Kelsey at this point. The books are going to juice 833 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 6: these odds up even more come kickoff time. I bet 834 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 6: they're just getting hammered on the over, and I'm not 835 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 6: going to help them out by betting the under. So, 836 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 6: like I said, I'll mention it in the MVP section, 837 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 6: but I'm going to bet on his ceiling here. 838 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 2: Okay, Rayveon, where are you on? Kill? See? 839 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 3: Yeah? 840 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 7: I don't you know, I don't think there's quite as 841 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 7: much value on straight up, you know, betting the the over, 842 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 7: but I definitely wouldn't bet the under. I think you 843 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 7: know the situation. The thing is with Tyreek Hill is 844 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 7: we saw last week. You know he can he can 845 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 7: put up you know, yards and even you know, the 846 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 7: biggest chunks of anyone in this game, and so that 847 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 7: could kind of impact Kelsey a little bit more than 848 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 7: the other way around, where I think if I had 849 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 7: a better over on Kelsey, I would probably lean toward 850 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 7: the receptions just to to kind of be safe, because again, 851 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 7: I think, you know, they're just going to concentrate the workload, 852 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 7: the workload around these two, these two players, and when 853 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 7: you look at Mahomes's you know we talked about it earlier, 854 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 7: but you know, his completion propit is way up. I mean, 855 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 7: this is just a this is a spot where you 856 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 7: think that the Chiefs are gonna have some volume. So 857 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 7: I can't fault anyone. I'm going over with with Kelsey, 858 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 7: but I don't think there's a ton of value there. 859 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 4: I wouldn't go I wouldn't go under. 860 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 7: In as far as the Bucks guys, I mean, you know, 861 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 7: Gronk had one catch. It was like a screen screen 862 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 7: pass that almost got stopped in the like for like 863 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 7: a one yard loss, and he broke free, and I 864 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 7: mean it's just kind of confounding. But they're using him 865 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 7: very differently than than I expected them to use him 866 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 7: they like more much more of a kind of blocker, uh, 867 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 7: you know than we've seen. And then he did, you know, 868 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 7: kind of come out last week and run was it 869 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 7: doubles the routes as breat out and still only that 870 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 7: one target. So I do think that you're kind of 871 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 7: buying low on Gronk here, but I think there's actually, 872 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 7: you know, also some value on on Break here, because 873 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 7: I think he's been the you look at him over 874 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 7: the course of the season and you know, he runs 875 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,959 Speaker 7: half of the routes last week and it's five times 876 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 7: as many targets as Gronk. 877 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 878 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 7: We know, Arians has always been kind of weird with 879 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 7: with tight ends, and he's to have settled on on Breton. 880 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 7: Even when Gronk's out there, Brady's not throwing it to him, 881 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 7: So you know, it's it's just kind of a situation 882 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 7: where I know, some of the numbers and the projections 883 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 7: in the season long numbers might you know, give you 884 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 7: weens in a certain direction. But I I say, like, 885 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 7: if I'm betting over then I know a lot of 886 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 7: people will I'm just going with the stars and just 887 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 7: going with the talk in this one, because it's it's 888 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 7: a truck super Bowl. I mean, if you said Brady 889 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 7: and Mahomes would be in the super Bowl at the 890 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 7: beginning of the year, be like, oh yeah, sure, exactly. 891 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 7: So I think it's that kind of game, So truck 892 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 7: for me. 893 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 2: Sewan A couple of things. One, Travis Kelcey had fifteen 894 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 2: targets last week. Not sure if you know, but he's good. 895 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 4: Uh oh really is Gronk good? 896 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 2: Number Number two questions what are your thoughts on on 897 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: these Buccaneers guys. 898 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 6: So I'm gonna pass on the Gronk prop. I actually 899 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,240 Speaker 6: need him to do good for the one I'm actually 900 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 6: gonna bet, but I'm gonna go with the uh camp 901 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 6: Braid under at three And for options it's it's around 902 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 6: mine one and a half most books. And you know, 903 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 6: Braid's a guy I've been writing since about week eleven. 904 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 6: I think it was when he started to outpace Gronk 905 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,959 Speaker 6: in reps run. That's when I started betting his over. 906 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 6: So I feel like I'm playing with house money at 907 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 6: this point. But last week Rayba mentioned it it started 908 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 6: to shift way back into Gronk's favor. He ran around 909 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 6: sixty two percent of the time versus Bright thirty two percent, 910 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 6: and now Bray was still able to see five targets. 911 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 6: I think he held in four passes. But I think 912 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 6: I'm buying into what Raybam was saying, where this this 913 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 6: is gonna be a Mike Evans bounce back game. You know, 914 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 6: he saw Marshall Lattimore in the wildcard round than jyr 915 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 6: Alexander last last game, So this week against Breeland, I 916 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 6: think he does bounce back. So I think some of 917 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 6: those break targets are going to go Evan's way, and 918 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 6: then Antonio Brown returning will will hit Brake's target rates. 919 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 6: So you know, I think Brad's gonna end with three 920 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 6: catches if I'm being honest, But I think getting the 921 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 6: extra hook in a market like this is so valuable. 922 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 6: I just don't see a game plan where they give 923 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 6: him four more catches. So I think I'm going to 924 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 6: bet on him, and in turn, I'm kind of rooting 925 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 6: for Gronk to have a good game, but I'm not 926 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 6: willing to bet Gronk's over, but I'll be on breaks 927 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 6: under here. 928 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 2: All right. I mentioned earlier the idea of Leonard Fournette 929 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 2: as MVP. Sean you mentioned looking at Travis Kelcey and 930 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 2: his upside for MVP. Talk about that bet and any 931 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 2: other MVP MVP bets you are making no just. 932 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 6: Kelsey at fifteen to one, you can still get it. 933 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 6: And when it comes to Kelsey, you're just betting on 934 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 6: his ceiling. Here looking up the past twenty years where 935 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 6: they've been voting this particular style or eighty percent of 936 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 6: it comes from the media, twenty percent from fans. You 937 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 6: know QB wins sixty percent of the time wide receiver 938 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 6: I'm going to say wide receiver slash tight end twenty 939 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 6: percent of the time, and defensive players twenty percent of 940 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 6: the time. I think it's it's pretty clear. With the 941 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 6: fifty six and a half total, we can lower down 942 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 6: the chances of a defensive player winning it. So I 943 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 6: have that coast of a five to ten percent. I 944 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 6: think the winner will be either quarterback or wide receiver 945 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 6: tight end here, and with Kelsey, you know he's going 946 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 6: to be the first head end to win it. If 947 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 6: he does and you already mentioned it, he broke the 948 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 6: record for receiving yards for a tight end this year. 949 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 6: He was second in the league in receiving yards. So 950 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 6: if you go back and look at you know, all 951 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 6: the games this year, and to sign if you were 952 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 6: to award an MVP for every game, I peg Kelsey 953 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 6: getting the MVP two to four games this year. There 954 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 6: were some games where you know, he dominated such a 955 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 6: huge amount of the target share that you know, if 956 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 6: you look at week thirteen, Conference Championship, Week eleven, Week fourteen, 957 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 6: I think he would have won it. So I think 958 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 6: his true odds of winning here is closer to you know, 959 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 6: nine to one, ten to one odds. So I think 960 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 6: we're getting some good value here. But like you guys 961 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 6: have mentioned, I think just when it comes to these 962 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 6: big time games, his ceiling is going to be much 963 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 6: much higher in a matchup. 964 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 2: Like this, and that's in resting and you can't get 965 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 2: Kelsey MVP fifteen to one out there, So something to 966 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 2: keep an eye on it. And Sean the the you know, 967 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 2: theoretical MVPs that he would have won in these games. 968 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 2: I think all of them that you mentioned came in 969 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 2: the second half of the season, and so it's you know, 970 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 2: with the volume that he's getting, he really might even 971 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 2: have better MVP odds than the most people would kind 972 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 2: of be projecting if they're thinking about the entire season, 973 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 2: So something to keep in mind there, Raybond MVP. Any 974 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 2: thoughts that you have here? 975 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 7: Tom Brady plus two ten love I love Brady here 976 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 7: because if you're you know, I mean, you could kind 977 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 7: of use these as a proxy to. 978 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 3: You know, depending on which team you like. 979 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 7: You know, the quarterback odds are, you know, better than 980 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 7: you're going to get for the money lines on both sides, 981 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 7: I think there's a high percentage chance kind of going 982 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 7: along along with what Sean said about, you know, this 983 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 7: is a high total game. I think that really, like 984 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 7: defensive players are completely off limits for me. And that's 985 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 7: that's different from last year when it was I think 986 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 7: it was fifty one. But I think I had some 987 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 7: shares in like Fred Warner and guys like that. You know, 988 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 7: San Francisco is a defensive team, and this one, I 989 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 7: just think that if if the Bucks win, particularly, I 990 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 7: think there's almost no way they don't give it to Brady. 991 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 4: I don't. 992 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 7: I think there's almost no way he doesn't have like 993 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 7: a huge hand in the victory. And you know this, 994 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 7: you know, could be his last super Bowl. He didn't 995 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 7: win it. In his last super Bowl that he won, 996 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 7: Edelman won it actually had him as a long shot play. 997 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 7: But I think that there's just an overwhelmingly high chance that, 998 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,720 Speaker 7: especially with the Bucks makeup where you have God winning 999 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 7: Evans and probably Brown and Bray and Gronk and like, 1000 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 7: there's just a lot of guys that spread he's spreading 1001 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 7: it around to that even if he doesn't have like 1002 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 7: a huge game, like let's say he actually just hits 1003 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 7: his player props of like what are they like two 1004 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 7: hundred ninety yards and gets like three touchdowns. 1005 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,720 Speaker 4: And they and they win the game. 1006 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 7: I think Brady still gets the awards, So he stands 1007 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 7: out to be at plus two ten, especially over a 1008 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 7: lot of the other long shot guys. I think this 1009 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 7: is Brave versus Mahomes. 1010 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,720 Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think it is the likeliest 1011 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: outcome that it is, and you see that in the market, 1012 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 2: the likeliest outcome that it's either Mahomes or Brady. The 1013 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 2: one argument I would make for Fournette is that in theory, 1014 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 2: if we see that Buccaneers defensive line really give problems 1015 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 2: to an offensive line in the Chiefs that is pretty 1016 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 2: injured right now, missing both of its starting tackles, missing 1017 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,959 Speaker 2: it's starting left guard, and now I believe the starting center, 1018 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 2: although I might be wrong. Maybe it's just a backup center, 1019 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 2: but one of the centers on the team is also 1020 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 2: now on the COVID reserve list will probably be ready 1021 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 2: to play for the Super Bowl, but it's certainly missing practice. 1022 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 2: Like this is not the offensive line that the Chiefs 1023 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 2: had last year or that they've had for most of 1024 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 2: this year. I know that Andy is a wizard, and 1025 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 2: he has two weeks to put this offensive line together 1026 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 2: and create a game plan to try to compensate for 1027 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 2: the weakness of his offensive line against the strength of 1028 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers defensive line. But I'm imagining that if we 1029 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 2: see a scenario where that Buccaneers defense is actually able 1030 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 2: to put some pressure on the homes, get some sacks, 1031 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 2: remember he's not as mobile as he normally is because 1032 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 2: of the toe injury, and then the Buccaneers run the ball, 1033 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,879 Speaker 2: and you know that situation of Leonard Fournette actually being 1034 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,479 Speaker 2: able to produce against a Chiefs run defense that isn't 1035 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 2: very good. That's the one scenario where I think Leonard 1036 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 2: Fournette maybe wins over Tom Brady. I still don't think 1037 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 2: it's all that likely of a scenario so I'm with 1038 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 2: you that it's likelier than not that Brady wins. But 1039 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 2: I think if there is someone on the Bucks who 1040 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 2: wins the award who's not Brady, I think that it 1041 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 2: is probably Leonard Fournette and you can get him thirty 1042 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 2: to one. So I don't feel horrible about betting on 1043 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 2: that scenario with that number. As we close out the show, 1044 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 2: I want to get any thoughts on any other props 1045 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 2: that are out there, whether it's a game total, you know, 1046 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 2: like I like the Buccaneers over twenty four and a 1047 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 2: half points, or whatever it is the number of sacks 1048 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 2: in this game. There are many markets for this game, 1049 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 2: so any any number that you've come across in your explorations, 1050 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 2: let me know, Sean starting with you, if there's something 1051 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 2: out there that has caught your eye. 1052 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think this is the only game where we 1053 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 6: get a ton of punter props, So I'm going to 1054 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 6: go with a punter prop here. Tampa Bay Buccaneers punter 1055 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 6: Bradley Pinion long at punt under fifty four and a 1056 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,439 Speaker 6: half yards you can get at minus one twenty. He's 1057 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 6: only cleared that number in seven of seventeen games this year, 1058 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 6: which is a forty one percent rate. Previous two seasons, 1059 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 6: He's only clear this number in eight of thirty two 1060 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 6: games twenty five percent rate, So it's not like he's 1061 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 6: regressing to anything here. So I love the under here. 1062 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 6: I would think that the Bucks are going to be 1063 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 6: a little more aggressive when it comes to fourth down 1064 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 6: aggressiveness against a team like Chiefs. Maybe they try to 1065 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 6: punt it away from Ekle Harmon. There's just more reasons 1066 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 6: to like the under other than just looking at his 1067 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 6: previous stats. So I love the under here. 1068 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,720 Speaker 2: I love the under and I love that you found 1069 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 2: a puncher prop and then actually did research on it. 1070 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 6: All of this that's what the super Bowl's about, man. 1071 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, all of this is fantastic. Raybond anything catch your eye. 1072 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 2: In the markets that are a little more exotic. 1073 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 7: I mean, I can't compete with a punter prop. Just 1074 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 7: going back to something we didn't talk about earlier, Patrick 1075 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 7: Mahomes and Tom Brady, I think parlaying both of them 1076 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 7: to throw an interception is interesting. The Buccaneers have forced 1077 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,479 Speaker 7: turnovers in these playoffs on quarterbacks that you know don't 1078 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 7: really turn them all over. 1079 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 4: And then on the other side. 1080 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 7: You had Brady with what was the three picks in 1081 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 7: like seven attempts, and he's I think this is another 1082 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 7: one of those games where he's gonna be he's gonna 1083 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 7: have to throw the ball and just to you know, 1084 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 7: to kind of keep up here. So I think that's 1085 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 7: an interesting one. I'm looking at is parlaying there under 1086 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 7: both of them over one interception. 1087 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 2: All right, I like that one quite a bit. That 1088 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 2: does it for the show. You can follow Sean, Chris 1089 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 2: and Me in the Action Network app at the Underscore. 1090 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 2: Odds maker Chris Raybaon and Matt at the Oracle use 1091 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 2: the app to get real time odds and track your 1092 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 2: bets for free. Be sure to check out all of 1093 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 2: our Super Bowl content at the Action Network and please 1094 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,839 Speaker 2: subscribe to and rate and review the show and listen 1095 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:51,359 Speaker 2: and download on Spotify. See you again next episode. 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