WEBVTT - Kenny Burns 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:10.120 R and B Money. Honey, we are thanks take valoti. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.040 We are the authorities on. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.080 All things R and B. 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.479 Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank. This is the 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:26.239 r Andy Money Podcast, the authority on all things R 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.120 and B. Oh my goodness in the building. Hell, we 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:36.960 have a curator, a manager of musical vibrations, the host 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.120 with the most yeah uh, and also gives you the lifestyle. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.600 What took us to Prince come now. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.680 Gives us the lifestyle to go along with it. A 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:53.880 lover of music and our friend mister Kinney burns the lifestyle. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.840 All right, so let's start here. Let's start here. They 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.920 already kicked it off because we had to go here first. Yes, 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:09.280 some people love music, right, They love their favorite artists. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.800 They you know they they love they love their music. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.720 You know, their their their presence, their outfits. They've seen 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.640 countless shows. They have all the albums, they know all 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:26.280 the lyrics. Kenny, you take it to another level your 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.880 love for Prince the the late great, one of the 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:36.080 greatest of all times. You took your fiftieth birthday party 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:40.000 to his house. Yes, now, listen, I love Marvin Gaye, 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.039 I love I love all these guys. I don't know 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.040 if I'm gonna have my birthday party at the house. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.640 You had it at his house? 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.000 Yes, And it was a ton It was a time. 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:58.000 Oh my god, press you know what, man, that had 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.240 been a dream of mine. You know, no one had 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.720 actually done an event at Paisley Park outside. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.240 Of Prince in his estate. 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:08.000 So this was like the. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:14.000 First party for someone outside of the inner sanctum. And 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.160 you know, I was in the barbershop one day and 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.760 Big shopped at my barbera Ron. He was like, what 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.760 are you doing your fiftieth I was like, I don't know, man, 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.119 I can't think about I've done with Sachi mansion and 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.200 been all over the world. You know what I'm saying, 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.800 dots and robotses some mos shit, weare my daughter? He said, Man, 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.560 do it at your daddy house. And I was like, 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.359 my father's dead. I can't What are you talking about, Ron? 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:39.079 He said, no, Prince, I said, Paisley Park. So it 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.040 was one phone call, man, I just I made a 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.560 phone call. It happened, and it was a night to 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:46.560 remember to say the least. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:52.040 No, you affected the economy of Minnesota. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:57.079 no facts. I'm on the plane and it's all black people. Yeah, 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.200 and it's all black people, I know. Right, I'm like, okay, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:06.280 so everybody going to and then and then the steward 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:10.560 it says, you guys must be going to that party, right, Yeah. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.280 I think I was on one of the later flights. Everybody, 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.280 you must be going to that party. I'm like, actually 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.720 we are. They're like, yeah, we just probably had five 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:20.359 or six planes. Yeah. 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.560 No, it was seven hundred I think and thirty something 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.560 people that literally flew no one, No one there was 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:27.880 from Minneapolis. 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:29.120 Yeah, it was it. 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:30.400 Was about the economy. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:31.120 That was great. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:31.480 Yeah. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:32.720 No, listen, I listen. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.920 I am proud to mean something to somebody, and I 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.720 think my evolution in this business and who I am 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.280 the people, that's my legacy, you know what I mean. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.600 Not just that I've curated and had some of the 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.840 most incredible times, you know what I'm saying, celebrating or 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.560 in a celebratory manner, but like I really mean, some 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.920 of the people, I think they take value in the 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.000 fact that I've been married twenty four years, the fact 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.920 that I've been present in my kids' lives publicly, you know, 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:58.960 in the right ways, not just for photo ops. I 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.480 think all the these things are like, you know, things 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.520 that really resonate with people. So I don't take seven 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.640 hundred plus people flying anywhere, let alone. You know what 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:13.640 I'm saying, two three four, if you can effectively expired. Yeah, 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.240 and look at god, though it was fifty degrees that 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.760 night in Minneapolis October, I had heater, was like it 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:21.760 was gonna be freezing. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.080 I had sludy vegan just because I knew people needed 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.000 to put that. Did we not? 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:27.680 Oh my god? 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:27.920 Yeah? 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:28.320 And guess what. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:32.080 I didn't get one no way sloppy toppy until I 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.960 got to the hotel. I didn't get nothing. You know 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.159 what I'm saying. I didn't get nothing off the food. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.120 And you know, if it cost me eighteen thousand dollars 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:40.919 put that truck on the truck. I just want to 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:45.600 tell you, I hope you enjoyed it in eighteen grand Yeah, yeah, 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:49.960 that was a mon That part came for real, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.400 There was some things that happened at that part. I 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:52.840 don't really want to get into that. But other than that, 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:53.880 everybody had a good time. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:58.080 Well yeah, of course there's some behind the scenes, yeah, you. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:04.080 Know, behind the per the purple, purple, yeah, purple curtain purple. Yeah. Yeah. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.839 It was painful, man, it was painful, but nonetheless God prevailed. 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.320 Yeah, and I think I think I think love prevailed man. 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.560 People for sure. You know what I'm saying, You've, uh, 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:21.040 you've shown authentic love, genuine love for everybody. Everybody, Yeah, everybody. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.520 I expected to see everybody that I saw at your right. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.520 It wasn't like I was like, oh wait they came, No, 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.839 we all came. We were all supposed to be there. 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:33.280 You know what I'm saying. We're all supposed to be 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:34.240 there celebrating our brother. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:35.120 Yeah. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.760 It was a you know, a spiritual moment for me. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.120 I don't think I'll do another one until the next 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.920 big birthday. But yeah, I think, like, you know, as 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.479 I've become more aligned with my passion and my purpose, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.680 you know, I. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.280 Just feel like it's another level, you know what I mean. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.599 So that was kind of my old to the party life, 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.880 you know, and the next level will be more you know. 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:00.800 Not that that wasn't me the for not that was 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.320 an exceptional but I think there's some real like God's 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:05.760 work and place for you know. 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:11.000 So let's let's let's let's go back to the beginning. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.800 Let's let's go back to the house. Man, let's go 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.880 let's go back to where it all started. I remember 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.640 my first time seeing you at Republic Gardens. Wow, the 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.520 shot to Mark Bard, shot at to Mark Bar. That 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:27.240 was my first time seeing It's like, who's running things? Yeah, 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:35.200 he's running running, So he was scream called running thing. 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:40.160 Yeah yeah. But even before that, man, you know, how 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.919 did all of this begin? Because you know, you you 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.960 you seem to be born to to be this. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.400 I appreciate this, you know, I was. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:54.000 I was always you know, conscious of my people skills 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.400 and the value that came with the ability to move people. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.880 And it started in the streets. You know, I wanted 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:06.080 to hustle to have right. I didn't, you know, necessarily 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:07.560 want to be a hustler or want to be in 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.200 the street doing the wrong thing, but I think it 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.920 was a necessity. Like much of us at that age, 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.440 you saw, you know, what you saw, and you wanted 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.720 to emulate that on some level. So but being in 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:21.480 the street taught me unmeasurable, invaluable lessons of how to 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:22.360 move in life. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:24.680 And I just you know, I was. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.240 Always the good time, even on the strip, you know 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.320 what I mean, or even you know, in the midst 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:30.720 of some danger, you know what I mean. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.680 It was always I was that relief for people. 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:39.560 But when I was in the twelfth grade, I started 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.200 relentlessly going to try and be a part of this 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.280 party scene you mentioned with Republic Guards, the Ritz. 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:47.520 I'm talking about. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:48.200 Killing the jar Row. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.240 Chicago's like all these places, and I'm like, you know, 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.000 we in the street so we can pop some more 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.840 at White Star, you know what I mean, and that 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.680 shit all, you know what I mean. So then I'm like, Damn, 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.480 I don't really want to be a hustle on. I 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.160 want to be in its life because you know, our 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.880 backdrop is Howard University. How do you not adore h 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:10.080 you you I did not a lot of people think 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.240 I did because we terrorized that motherfucker you. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:13.840 Know I'm talking about. 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.520 But were at every party and big shot to Ron 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.120 de Berry, God Rest of Dead, you know, Steve Solomon 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.760 got a shout out, Danny Davis like, oh you know. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:25.880 It was so many promoters that like we were like 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.720 in manti Wanza who managed Bizz and they were they 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.240 would fuck with us, you know what I mean. So 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:35.600 I got the opportunity with Manti and Biz to bring 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.040 Biz's crazy. Now you can imagine I'm getting money. Don't 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.120 nobody want to carry no crates. But if it means 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.000 I could get into these clubs and be a part 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.480 of this, I'm trying to figure it out. Eventually, that 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.160 led to him taking us to Uva and all surrounding area. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.880 So I just was kind of like, you know, wanting 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.800 to be around it, and one foot in front of 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.440 the other led me to like opportunities. And I tried 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.640 to grab the mic one night and Bez looked at 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:01.200 me like I stole his you know what I'm talking about, 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.120 beatboxing machine or something like. He was looking at me like, 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.719 what are you doing. I was like, yo, you know 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.760 what I'm saying. He's like, all right, go ahead. So 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.760 no conversation at all. You just why you just felt 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:12.400 it in your spirit. Well I had kind of been 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.520 inching up to it, saying I want to do it 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.240 because of the reaction like Biz. You know, Bierz doesn't 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.040 get the credit he deserves as far as an entertainer. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:25.360 He was playing theme songs from television shows at the 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.440 party and it was going crazy. He was stopping the 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.600 party because he couldn't really DJ all the way in 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.680 the beginning, and just you know, doing some beatbox shit 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.560 and then you know, bring the music back, I mean, 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.600 whatever it was to make you have a good time. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.680 And me watching him, I'm like, I could do that. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.800 I might be I might not be a beatboxing mother, 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.400 but I could talk that shit, especially to these women. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.599 So a few times I had snuck on, but not 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.600 in the main kind of capacity. But I think it 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.679 was one night at UVA that man did something He's like, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.200 you know, and I got the mic and I just 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.199 went for it, you know what I mean, no permission, 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.320 no nothing, and I did to throw your hands in 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:00.640 the airwave you just don't care. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:01.839 And it worked and I was. 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:03.840 Like, see, I told. 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.600 You, you know what I mean. 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.520 And I think from then on I just would I 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.920 would tamper with it. But literally, like the DC thing 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:15.439 was like a training ground because Atlanta became my playground. Atlanta, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.240 like Leo had called me my cousin, Leo Big Shouter, 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:19.480 Leo Williams. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.880 He would go on to go to college. I got 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:22.920 locked up my senior. 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.520 Year, so he would go high Yah senior high school, 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.959 and he would go on to Morehouse College, and he 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.000 would always tell me, you gotta come. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.680 So Low got y'all to Atlanta. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:33.880 Yeah Leo went first. 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.840 Okay, yeah, Leo went to Morehouse and you know, I'm 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.800 trying to go finish our basketball dream. I went to 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:47.000 Montgomery College, you know, the community college, community college, and 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.559 I was hooping. I pushed somebody out the air one night, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.040 caused the whole melee. You know, all this dumb you 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.760 know what I mean. So he kept calling me, you 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.480 got to come down him and fuck that basketball. So 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.000 you playing Morris Brown or Clark or Moore come to Morehouse. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.720 It's like, I don't think I got the grades for that, 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.280 but I'll come check you. So he kept asking me, 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.400 and finally, in the spring of ninety two, he said, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.080 you gotta come to Freaknik. And I'm like, what is 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.800 this magical thing that you just said, not knowing what 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.160 it was, It's Freaknick. I'm like, but how do I 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:14.760 sign up with. 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.360 The sound like something you want to be? 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.840 I'm nineteen years old. I'm like, freak Nick. He's like, 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.400 come on, damn, and I'm telling you. So I got 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.480 cleared while people let me go down to him. I 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:27.319 was going to visit colleges and it changed my life, 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:28.200 you know what I mean. 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:29.640 I was going to visit collegists. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.800 Yeah, he was, let me tell you. 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:37.840 Yeah, yeah right, but I see this beautiful black oasis 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.840 of like you know, and by the time of me 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.240 getting there, Lee had already told every Bible scarface he 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:48.480 had told like he had it wasn't no social media. 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.959 Man, Yeah, he gonna be out, He's gonna get out, 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:51.520 He'll benick. 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:51.960 Yeah. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.560 So you don't want no social media? So he telling it? 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.440 So I come, I mean, should kill Stewart off the plane? 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.240 You know what I'm saying, a lot of people that 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.360 end up becoming, you know, great friends and running this 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.079 industry of ours, but fresh off the plans, like this 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.000 is where I'm supposed to be, and we were just 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:09.800 doing all the DC shit. And what I mean by 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.880 DC shit is like we was knocking everything DWN Like 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:15.760 it was just a who can we get? 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:16.559 You know what I mean? 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.920 It was like so many beautiful women. Obviously you know, there's. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:23.600 An all girls school across from Morehouse, Spellman College, one 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.920 of my favorite places to attend, you know, in that era, 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.760 you know, And then he said they've been Clark Atlanta University, 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:36.760 the most underrated HPCU on the planet. And it was all, 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.000 you know, this one big congregation. It was all this 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:42.960 one big you know what I mean. And I was 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.720 trying to really plot on how I was gonna take 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.400 it over. So I had to go home and I toltally. 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.080 I said, fall, I'm coming to school. So I'm trying 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.800 to enroll. No one would accept me but the newly 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:57.160 accredited Morse Brown. Yeah, I love you, thank you. Big 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.000 shout to Morris Brown College. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:00.560 Enrolled. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.600 I enrolled. Man got down there. The first week I 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.520 got down there, we do we do a party at 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.960 our apartment. And yes, my entry into school was not 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:10.480 a dorm. 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:11.720 We was living. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.760 We was in all Steale out there by six Flags 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.439 and we had a two bedroom the pools right next door. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:19.000 It was the thing. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.520 So we do a party the first week that you 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:26.319 moved in. First week, the first week. Now we'd have 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.960 made an impression during freedomy leo them down and running 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.319 the muck anyway, they already like that. Twenty six twenty 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.640 is known. We do a party called twenty six twenty. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:38.160 Blunt Heill presents the cookout, and we did it out 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.480 our house. I'm gonna provide the paper fly so you 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:45.360 can show it right now. Okay, when I tell you 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.839 this party was so legendary, not just because I ended 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.440 the night and some spiedos and Timulus, but it was 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:56.000 so legendary. Yeah yeah, yeah, I know, shit gets crazy, 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.240 but it went. It went so dumb. They were like 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.240 when the next party. Everything from that day for was 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.240 win the next party. So Big Shot the Blue he 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.040 Marco Blue Johnson. He owned Marco's Peter and he was 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.600 like my first big brother. And Leo had a car, 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.640 but Leo was kind of stingy with his car. So 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.240 I would kind of link up with Blue to go terrorized, 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:17.920 right because I wanted to. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.680 Be in there. I definitely need a car in Atlanta. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.280 Yeah no, you had to live in a Yeah, we 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:23.239 lived in Austelle. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:23.680 Yeah. 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.280 So I literally, like, you know, link up with Blue 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.360 and we started doing promotions for the Phoenix, and you know, 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.440 Phoenix Phoenix Night Club ended up becoming the warehouse where 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.520 we made the legendary funk Clinic. But the Phoenix was like, 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.560 you know, it was in the city and for Atlanta. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.760 If you know anything about Atlanta, all the popping parties 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.960 outside of one twelve and maybe a few little restaurant 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.040 spots like sports bars type things were outside of Atlanta 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.960 all the popping clubs, right, So this club was by 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.480 the AUC, the closest club to the AUC. Yeah, so 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.520 I'm assuming things went on there, but it wasn't. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:14:59.000 It was. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.360 It was more of an Atlanta crowd in the school crowd. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.520 So I'm making my bones getting to know the city, 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.400 you know what I'm saying. So we do a Big 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.240 Head in Blue Joint. That was the first party kind 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:15.120 of collect I'm big here, Kenny, everybody what Kenny? 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.680 That was why you didn't know that? 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.080 That's why I. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.480 Literally on the flyers a Big Head and Blue Joint. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.000 That was like the first So long story short. My 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.480 crew kept coming to the club, Leo, Damon, GJ. Like 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.120 you know, everybody was coming to the club, and we 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.120 just kept making a name for ourselves. This is why 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:40.160 I want to say that all aspiring you know, lifestyle 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:44.680 specialists people are the peace. You know what I'm saying, 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:48.640 to your success like I just was, you know, I 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.080 knew everybody. I made everybody feel comfortable. To mind, it's 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.800 not my party yet, I'm promoting for the club. And 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.120 so long story short, man, we get an opportunity to 0:15:56.120 --> 0:16:00.000 get the actual club and do a night. So when 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:04.960 when this happened, Steve Solomon that did Chicago's in DC, 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.360 you know Steve, he came down. He's like, Yo, you 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.080 need to meet my man AG. I'm like, who is 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.760 this AG guy? He's like, he does parties of Ethiopian 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.880 Vibrations and you know he's a great promoter. I was like, 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.320 all right, cool, you know they about to give me 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:17.720 the spot. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:19.680 What's up? Let's link up. So we ended up doing 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:20.120 the party. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.480 We were called the fly Boys at first, right, and 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.960 it was a whack ass name that Steve Solomon god 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:26.840 rested dead made up. 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:27.920 But I hated the fucking name. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:29.520 I always want the name of twentyes to twenty But 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.600 I had to kind of like prove that I was 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.680 the one noting to. So Alex get one who's now 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:38.120 AG Entertainment does AG turing Steve Solomon. We went in 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.200 and we started doing you know, I don't even know 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:42.640 what the name is. I know we were fly Boys. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:48.280 But anyway, long story short, we got an opportunity to 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.640 take the club. You know what I'm saying from this 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:54.200 current partnership, and the owner was like, you know, he 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.440 wanted to basically give it to the twenty six to 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.560 twenty crew, and I was like, I don't know if 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.320 I want to do that yet, but let me tell 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.360 him we're gonna call it twenty six twenty and see 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.360 what happened. So we end up calling him twenty six 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.399 twenty percents and da da da da da. So my 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.280 crew of course was like, they ain't twenty six twenty, 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:09.520 you know what I'm saying, Like. 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.040 We need to own it outright. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.760 So around this time is when I meet Wendell and 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.840 when daw White came in to play, like you know, 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.600 one as a big brother, but he also was outside 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.040 outside like he's from Detroit whatever thought of everybody from Detroit. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.760 Everybody knew slick and he was getting it. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.439 I mean when we met him, O game went to 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:33.760 another level because he had the black on black Lexus 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.479 SC three whatever it was with the BBS. He had 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.720 the land Cruise and the range rover, all the things. 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.880 So you can imagine twenty six twenty playing without toys, 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.480 and then twenty six twenty playing with toys. There's a 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.560 whole nother offer. So then it was like, all right, 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.359 I need to take this. So I asked Alex. I 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.520 was like, Yo, I'm about to take this. Steve is 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.520 making three thousand dollars a week for nothing. He don't 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.600 come here, he don't promote. You know what I'm saying, like, 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.440 what's up? You're coming with me? It's like, I can't 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:57.960 really do that to Steve. So I was like, all right, peace, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:02.040 We remain coolpt up, kept it moving. But that ninety four. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:03.480 So now you got your own club. 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.720 I have the club, the main club in Atlanta that 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.080 was called the Phoenix, and then that fall went to 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:13.280 the warehouse, and the warehouse is where we created funk 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.840 Clinic Friday. This is where the you know, the notorious 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:20.040 Big Mac promo fight and all this shit with Mark 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.480 Pitts who used to be called Gucci Don and him 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.480 and then puffing them trying to you know, wolfing all them, 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.800 trying to control the situation that's pulling them things out 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:27.960 of me. 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.520 Yeah, this is all yeah, this is all like fun facts. 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.000 It's been in a couple of interviews, but it literally 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.560 went to another level because not only have we did 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.720 the groundwork in Atlanta and made bones as far as 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:40.720 like being known throughout the city. But we had the 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.640 auc on lot and anything that came to Atlanta came 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:44.000 do me. 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.040 A favor, Do me a favor, right, because you know, 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.439 we always go back to our podcast being informative, in 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.240 our podcast being something that you can learn from fact 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:58.359 and that you can pick up. Obviously, your business grew 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.280 to other things, but at this point you are a 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.719 club promoter. Yeah, can you give us a little bit 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.040 of a breakdown of how that works psych for a 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.280 young dude, young girl who wants to get into art, 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.240 not even young whatever, whoever wants to get into that space. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.800 How does that work right where you have your night? 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.560 Do you actually rent the club from the owners of 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.640 the Phoenix or is it just like, Okay, I'm gonna 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.560 get the door, y'all take the bar. How does that 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.240 usually work for promoters that you can make you can 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:31.080 make a living in this. 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.080 Yeah, absolutely so, Like I mentioned the Bigger and Blue joint, 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:37.280 we were doing promotions for the Phoenix. We got to 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.359 the point where we're eventually rented the club and we 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:44.320 benefited from having autonomy at the door. Right as you 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.280 get bigger, you have options to also get pieces of 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:48.920 the bar and things of that nature. And I haven't 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:50.919 been a promoter in a long time, but if I 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:53.600 was advising anyone on how to get into it, it 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.520 would be to own your own right, Like if you 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.679 can't afford to get a brick and mortar and do 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.919 your own own version, get with a good partner that 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.120 need your services. Understand your value and what you bring 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:07.760 to the table. If you can put a thousand, two 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.480 thousand people in the building, you know, you can get 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:12.880 twenty five percent of the doll or you can get 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:14.960 fifty percent of the door, you can get one hundred 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:16.359 percent of the doing and get twenty five percent of 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:18.760 the bars, all how you negotiate. So I think that 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.280 ownership is key when you're getting into anything. But you 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.520 have to start somewhere, So don't be scared to like, 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.240 get involved in what somebody else is doing. Get noticed 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.919 for what your talents and superpowers are, getting noticed for 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.239 your ability to put people in the building, and then 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:33.880 grow from there. 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:35.800 But there's all types of scenarios that you. 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:37.120 Can create for you And you were doing this once 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:38.800 a week, once a. 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.320 Week, yeah, okay, and then we grew into off you know, 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.800 off of the or we moved from the warehouse to 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.959 you know, we had an Olympic Nike Village of ninety six. 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:49.560 For New Years, we did the Fox it was called 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:50.240 Celebrity Fair. 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.520 We partnered with Noontime and you know we started doing 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.199 bigger and you know, better things. And we actually had 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.199 the Snoop Tour when I was twenty years old. We 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.800 got locked up. We had that the Omnis now well 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.120 I think it's State Farm Arena now, but we had 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:05.480 like when Jodish he was on tour and they was 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.199 doing the whole things we had that. We end up 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.200 not doing it because Snowpad got locked up. But we 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:11.920 I mean we went from zero to hero quick. 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.080 So when you were when you were building, like building 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:19.080 the pieces right, in terms of growing as a promoter, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.360 what do you feel like was the most important nuance? 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:28.200 Would it be DJ in terms of music being able 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:32.320 to hold those people there, or how many women you 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.359 were able to get into that spot to make the 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:38.000 dudes come along, or a balance of making sure you 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:43.280 have the right dudes in there to like, yeah, those pieces, 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:43.920 you know what I'm saying. 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:47.480 Like, really, I think great music is sets the tone 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:49.800 for the party and then you have to have the people. 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:53.280 I think women are the catalysts for a great party. 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:59.359 I think they make men, you know, move, you know 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.720 what I mean if you not woman anywhere. Yeah, in 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.639 our time, if you had the women and they were celebrating, 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.960 the men had no choice or they looked lame, you 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:07.560 know what I mean. 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:11.920 And this is hard dancing. This ain't just that. This 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.720 is your sweating, like you are busting a. 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:15.720 Movie party shirt. 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:17.560 Yeah. 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.399 Absolutely, and women man have you know, And I always 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.520 say this, they were the best promotion, you know. I 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:27.199 think we were like twenty five deep and so it 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:30.520 wasn't nothing ween touched. But our goal was to have 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:33.560 women talk about us, not just in that way, but 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:35.240 just in the you know, if you want to have 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:37.120 a good time, you gotta go. I mean even when 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.680 I never forget. I met my wife at Howard University's 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:44.560 homecoming nineteen ninety seven. Her best friend, I'm not best friend, 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.760 but her friend at the time. When she inquired about me, 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.520 said that, oh, I wouldn't make him your man, but 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:53.760 he's good for a good party, or he'll be good 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:55.560 for you know, get you into all the hot events. 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.400 I was like, no, you didn't just try to ruin 0:22:57.480 --> 0:22:59.280 my life before it even started. 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:00.400 You know, to bear. 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:01.480 I don't know where you at. 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:07.399 It's twenty four years of love and happiness too, great 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:08.600 function in humans. 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.560 I appreciate your high five halfway high five. 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:19.000 Yea, you almost killed it before it begain. 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:29.560 Yeah, man, sorry, I just had to get it off 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:30.240 my chato. 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.960 You know, sometime the reputation proceeds love is love is 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:34.879 is love us. 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:36.879 Yeah, that is how it goes. That's how it goes. 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:43.120 So you're promoting in Atlanta and obviously you're coming across everybody. 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:48.800 When is the turn to say, not only do I 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:50.800 want to have the night life, I also want to 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.800 have the music that creates the nightlife. 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:56.720 Yeah, man, that's a great question. You guys are getting 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.480 good at this. I really applaud you and you professionalism. 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:02.000 Yeah yeah, you know what. 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:03.720 I was in the parking lot of one twelve one 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:07.920 night and big shout to Dave Gates and god Rest, 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:12.159 Claude Austin Dallas Austin's brother. They used to come to 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.639 my club every week, you know what I'm saying. And 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.840 at this time they had Monica. They had y'all so 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.480 stupid they had, you know, I think illegal may have 0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.840 been almost was signed but they tried to put out 0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.200 Monica for the second time with Don't Take It Personal, 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:29.000 because I guess the first time it didn't didn't It 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:32.040 didn't click, and so they were like, Yo, do you 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.280 want to promote this new artist we have now? Mind you, 0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:35.919 They were hiring me because of what I did on 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.520 the party scene professional wise, and I was like do 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:40.600 I you know what I mean? And he was like 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.399 all right, cool. So one night I'm in the one 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.960 twelve parking line. I'm promoting Don't Take It Personal, and 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:50.639 I ran into the guy that actually curated and was 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.160 responsible for the Black Expo and you remember the Black Expert. 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.720 I was like Coachella in the South, and so, you know, 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.560 got Monica on that thing on that you know, on 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.960 that little tour spot dates or whatever, and they asked 0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:04.640 me to come in and run you know. 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:05.640 Street team promotions. 0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:07.879 I was like, hell, yeah, you know, And so I 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.439 think that that kind of piqued my interests, not necessarily that. 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.600 I mean, I was in love with Monica's song and 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:15.920 she was fourteen. She looked at me like a big brother. 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.040 I loved the energy I brought and how I made 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:20.639 people feel, but I didn't know what I wanted to 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.760 do in it, you know. And at the same time, 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:27.320 Clark Kent, who used to book all the time to 0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:32.320 DJ he had introduced me to Dame Dash and Kareem 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:39.639 and Jay and and How'm I forget his name, Vegas 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:43.919 Jones Emry Jones, and so they're talking about they got 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:47.600 this label they're doing. Jay Z had a song called 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.400 twenty two Two's and they wanted me to help them, 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:52.800 you know, promoting the South. So I would go back 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.199 and forth to New York Maria Davis mad Wednesdays. I 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.919 was like in their mix too. So I'm doing the 0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:01.560 rowdy Records thing with Monica, consulting with Jay and M. 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.040 And I loved what Jay and M was doing because 0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:04.840 that's like my life, you know what I mean. So 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:06.600 I'm like, oh, this is kind of Then he came, 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.000 you know, with reasonable doubt. I had no idea that 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.199 when I'm going to D and D here and you 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:16.320 know these you feel me and so like it became like, damn, 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.520 I'm really curious. I really think I can can help 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:20.440 these people, you. 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:20.920 Know what I mean. 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.919 So I ended up helping Ray Ray figure out some 0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:25.320 other markets for the street teams. 0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.880 I held down Atlanta, and it started to grow. 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:31.639 Man, and everything kind of led to me starting to 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.479 feel myself in the space and how I can contribute more. 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.280 But it wasn't gonna happen at Roddy Records. So one 0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.439 meeting at Rowdy Records, they were talking about Dallas, this, that, 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.960 and the third and I felt like Monica's popping. 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.360 She wasn't before me, you know. 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:49.000 Not realizing there was Arister Records along with Rowdy Records 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.800 pushing this. I'm thinking, I'm doing you know what I mean, 0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:58.520 you know what I'm saying. So I'm in a meeting 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:02.520 one day and it wasn't on the way I wanted 0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.119 it to go. And you know, being young, I think 0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.240 it was twenty one years old, was like, man, fuck 0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:11.240 Dallas Austin. Yeah, and I'm thinking, I'm just in the 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.359 room family, I'm gonna tell my brother, fuck you if 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:14.200 I don't agree with you. 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:18.400 You know what I mean, I'm not thinking it's gonna call. 0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:19.400 The shot way right. 0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.720 So he wasn't at the meeting, and then I guess 0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:24.480 whoever it was in the meeting when told him what 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:28.480 I said. And you know, at this point, I think 0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.800 Claude had passed and he was always my champion. 0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:36.600 Claude Austin and Dave Gates, and they knew. 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:38.480 How passionate I was, how hard I worked and what 0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.080 I wanted to do, because you know, once you find 0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.159 out you good at something and you can't you know 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:43.000 what I'm saying, like. 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.520 Make money doing it on it and it's. 0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:49.080 Legal, like you want to hold on it. It becomes 0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.879 your passion. And I wasn't doing nothing but being passionate. 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.240 And I think if he even would tell you the story, 0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.119 he would look at it too, like maybe his ego 0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:57.840 was involved. 0:27:58.359 --> 0:27:59.680 But Dave ain't like that, bru. 0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.240 Like as soon as they got back to us that 0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:06.000 Dallas Herd, Dave was tipping over, you know, desking fire 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.840 me mother for fuck you, like it was a whole thing. 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.600 But that also for me, and I want to shout 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:15.280 Dave Gas out because we didn't have father figures in 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.800 the business. When I came into the business, or even 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:20.879 as I grew in the business. It was people that 0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:25.480 wanted to take our flavor, our ideas, our creative abilities 0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:30.199 and use that not necessarily to reward us for you 0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.960 feel me, not to build you up, but to take 0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.640 for that game. Yeah, but for Dave to do that. 0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.560 It allowed me not to be taint it from being fired. 0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.560 It allowed me to know that shit he believed in me. 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.880 He now saying fire. You know, fuck dude, you know 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.120 what I mean? And you got to stand on something 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.960 and if you don't, they gonna keep you under their thumb. 0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:53.440 And for me, that exit was the beginning to my 0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:55.960 ascension and what I ultimately became. 0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:03.080 So do you start studio forty three after that? After 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:05.920 you still you're still doing your twenty six twenty things 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:10.600 in the streets with the clubs and your promotion. But 0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.280 now that you're you're not that routed anymore. You didn't, 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.120 you know, fuck that up. You lost your mind. You know, 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:21.640 you had a moment, got your ass fired. Yeah, So 0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:23.200 where do you go from from there? 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:24.280 Man? 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.640 Again, great question, because I was on probation. 0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.600 Were you you're still in probation. 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.480 I'm still on the whole time. Whole time. 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.640 I had ten years probation, Okay, yeah, yeah, ten years. 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.320 They want to lock you up, they want you to 0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:43.480 fuck up ten years probate, ten years, yeah yeah. 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:43.760 Yeah. 0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:48.560 So I literally, I literally my mom had moved to 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.280 Atlanta at this time, and she's in three A. We're 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:52.000 in like two B. 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.080 She moves in building. 0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:56.760 But my mom is like my sister. I mean you've 0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.320 heard that. I'm sure like my mom was like we 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.320 grew up together. It wasn't you know. She's literally exactly 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.600 twenty years older than me, and we learned a lot together. 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.600 But anyway, she lives in like three A. We live 0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:06.000 in two B. 0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.720 And the police came looking for me about my probation. 0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.320 This is around all the time I got fired. You know, 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.040 the Rockefellers are you know, as sending, I'm not trying 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:17.600 to really move to New York and be there, so 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.880 I'm trying to really figure it out. Well, Clark is 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:25.080 going to Motown Records, right, and he's like, yo, I 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.040 want to, you know, fuck with you, and it's gonna 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:28.960 figure out how to bring you into Motown Records. But 0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:30.800 I'm like, I got to get out of Atlanta and 0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:32.760 get backwards. You know, extradition they can hold you up 0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:33.840 to six months. 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.240 Before they take you, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.120 So like I got to get home, So I go 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.480 to DC and while I'm home fixing my shit, which 0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:42.280 was ladies, gentlemen, I just want to tell you my 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:48.880 age through this story. I was faxing my probation sit right. 0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:53.400 I was faxing my probation sheet to report and the 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.400 mishap is that the machine on their end was broke 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:58.880 and they weren't getting my facts. But how you keep 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:02.280 a fax machine for like a month and don't write 0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.880 so they you feel they want. 0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:05.520 You to go there today? 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:06.320 Now we didn't get it. 0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:07.480 They want you to go to just anyway. 0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:07.960 I'm in d C. 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.960 And then Clark causes like Clark can DJ Clark kent 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.800 if I to make that specific. But he calls like, yo, 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.160 I know, I know a way to get you in 0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.240 the motown. Like all right, Bett, I'm in DC. 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:19.440 You come in here. 0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.440 He's like, yes, we're doing the Motown Talent Review something. 0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:25.040 We're looking for artists for MOTI. I was like, say Less, 0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:26.480 like what I need to do? You need artists or 0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.760 I need the sky over the city. 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:30.680 He's like, nah, I want you to throw a party. 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:32.880 I was like, say Less, it's easy. 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:34.800 I was like, this is I was like, who's coming, 0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:36.640 It's like one hundred race like naming the whole. 0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:40.520 I was like say Less, now, mind you being from Washington, 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.040 d C and heavy D you know what I'm saying, 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.240 sampling Go Go for the first time, like Uptown Records 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:51.240 was the immediate playlist of my life. Everything he did 0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.360 after Heavy D because he used Go Go and mister 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:58.280 Big Stuff had me loyal to that brand. So everything 0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.400 he did and whole time, I'm not communicating that. I'm 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.800 just showing you how God shows up. You know what 0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.480 I'm saying, Because I'm going through all this probased shit. 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.800 I gotta go home with fear of being extra died. 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.520 I gotta you know what I mean. You call me, 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.160 you want me to do a party for Andre Horal 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:17.640 say leus, so you know, I get ready for the party. 0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.520 I got a light skinned girl because he calls them 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.840 butter waves. I got I'm like, you gotta sit with 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.040 this man the entire night. I asked you to do 0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.320 nothing you don't want to do. He called them butter waves. 0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:31.000 I had dad and some Don Perry on waiting. He 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.080 gets there when door open, and the luckily is pat. 0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.000 I'm not there yet though, because I was playing that 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:38.560 the door open. Yeah, Dre was red, you know. First 0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.240 of all, d C for under Herail was like crypt. 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:42.360 He loved DC. 0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.560 He loved the party energy, and I think he honestly 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:49.200 wanted to see what Clark Kent kept raving about. So 0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.560 he get there, it's pat you know what I'm saying, 0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:52.920 I'm not there yet, and he's. 0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.120 Like, what is this slight skinned nigga? 0:32:55.200 --> 0:33:01.520 This so never forget I came in. It was like 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.320 a scene out of like you know, Above the Rim, 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.760 when dude came in and and and Park was sitting 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:08.760 in the you know what I mean. 0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.120 I'm like, I walked up. I was like, how you doing, 0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:12.320 mister Kenny Burns. 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.080 He was like this niggas. 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.160 So he's going off into this like wonderland of compliments 0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.400 talking about d C and how I matched what he thought, 0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.200 you know what I'm saying fit the bill. 0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:28.600 And so he was like, oh, nigga, what do you do? 0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:28.960 Nigga? 0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:30.600 You had I forgot her name. I think it was 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:34.040 christ You had Christa Wayne, my dumb pip painted bottles 0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.400 like he was. He was excited. I was like, He's like, 0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.160 what do you do? I was like, I make it happen. 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.239 I was like, what do you need done? You like, 0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:42.480 what do you need done? 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.200 He was like, niggers got t. 0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:52.360 He's literally like going through this like you know, admiration 0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:53.200 in front of me. 0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.320 Now, you know, usually people don't. They want to hold 0:33:58.360 --> 0:33:59.040 so much. Man. 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.560 So he was like, get to New York on Monday morning. 0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:03.600 You fly light skin. 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.160 You know what I'm saying, well dressed, manicure does it? 0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.280 I mean, he went through a whole list of descriptions. 0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:08.839 You know what I mean. 0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.840 Get to get to New York on Monday. So the 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:13.759 party ensues. We have a great time. 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:14.399 He leave. 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.120 He came when it started, he left when it ended. 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:21.719 Clark calls him, like, you did it b at Motown 0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:25.360 at eight am? Say, say least I was at am. 0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.080 He didn't get there to ten. I'm in the office 0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:28.960 like God set. 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.120 The nigga candy down yall city House. 0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.719 I'm like, I'm here, I'm ready to work. What can 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.239 I do? He said, come on in. 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:36.840 We talked. 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.440 He asked me all these questions about you know, so, 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.319 of course my playbook in the industry was Monica and 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:43.240 Jay at the time. 0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.040 So I told him what I did to contributed that 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.160 told him like black expert. 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.160 So he was like, all right, cool, he's sincere times 0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.839 are coming in. So sincere came, he's like put them 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.360 in street team marketing and give him a sixty thousand 0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.600 a year, now, I'd have made sixty our dollars of 0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.239 my life to this point, you know what I mean. 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:04.600 But I never had nobody in. 0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.719 The corporate structure say here's the check and this is 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:08.440 what you're gonna do. 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:09.040 I mean, the. 0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.760 Rowdy shit was really outside service. So they paid me nineteen. 0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.640 I was making way more doing parties and my little 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.480 you know, my little whatever. But this was my first. 0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.000 Like you was in the door, I was in the door. 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:26.640 It was an outside service check, you know. So I 0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:29.680 moved as soon as I got my stuff straight. Big 0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:31.520 shout to Bobby Joseph. He let me sleep on his 0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:35.719 couch in Brooklyn for about six months. Yeah, shout out 0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:39.759 to the ya. But I got in that door, bro, 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.359 and I went from sixty to eighty to one hundred 0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.719 and twenty and you know, like a year and a half. 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:47.960 Everything I wanted to do he allowed me to do. 0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.400 And I kept hitting home runs, but we as a 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.000 company couldn't hit home runs, you know. 0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:53.399 What I'm saying. 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.480 Like I was making impressions based on my Motown Flavors 0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.200 campaign or you know, breaking seven or two stee Low 0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.160 and niney two Q Baltimore because I went dream t 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.799 market for most of the radio promotions, most of A and R. 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.080 So he was giving me. I was getting studio time. 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.080 I remember them. Do y'all remember this tank. You have 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:09.000 to remember this jay you had? 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.720 Do you remember them little sheets for the car service 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:13.640 and you have to fill out your seat. 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:17.759 And that man gave me a bag of them. I'm 0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:21.719 riding around in car service ever everywhere in New York. 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:25.440 Everywhere, and then and then, so my whole experience, I remember, 0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:29.520 I never forget this daddy os in can Coom Mexico 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:34.080 Malik Yoba White Party, Motown Presents Malik Yoba White Party. 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:35.680 And I had been running them up with my corporate 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.440 card and these mother fucking things. 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:38.640 And that's just gotta tell a story. 0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:42.439 Because Eddie f I love you because you ain't ship 0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.680 for not signed off on it. So I went and 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:49.319 I'm thinking, like, yo, you know, I'm gonna go out 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:51.239 here and pop off, you know what I mean, Like 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.719 I got the corporate car, Puff's gonna be there, you 0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:57.920 know all the things right, So we in there and 0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:01.279 the party is the party of the weekend. I'm talking 0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:04.000 about all white. Malik Yob was fresh off for whatever 0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:07.359 show he had in this in this is in can 0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.080 Coon Yeah, yeah, something in there. 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:10.640 Swipe. 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.360 So Bobby Joseph. I don't know if y'all remember, but 0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:17.000 Bobby he was up back designing for like the Foo 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:17.759 Boos and all. 0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.480 The things, and he was up so he's so that's 0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:20.279 big brother. 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:26.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, the film director, big brother. So he 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.640 and there swiping something going bottle for bottle. Next thing, 0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:31.560 you know, we buying so much champagne. They bringing it 0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.920 in garbage cans, garbage cans. 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.000 Well, so I'm swiping the end of the night. 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.680 The bill's eight thousand for me, eight thousands for Bobby. 0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:43.600 We split the bill sixteen thousand dollars bill. Now we 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.239 were to talk of can COO. When I get back 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:46.520 to the office, everybody. 0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.799 Yo, my body was crack up. Man, that buddy was crazy. 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.919 Eddie f came to my office like, Yo, you spent 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:54.920 eight thousand dollars at daddy Os. 0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:55.680 Yeah. 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.080 We had a motown Malik Yoba White party. 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:00.640 Well did it for us? 0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:01.080 Yeah? 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:07.520 For the culture. He's like you and n R talking 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:11.480 about it. They're talking about us. They're talking about Moretown. 0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.600 That's not just me, you know. 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.719 So you know, make sure that Eddie if I love you, bro, 0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.359 but he did not approve that. He did not sign 0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.240 off on that. You had to pay it on my pocket. 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:27.120 That was my first credit lesson in like yeah, and 0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.880 I was like eight thousand. I only make eight thousand 0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:31.520 a month, Like you want me to pay the one 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.719 thing that got rint? I have things that I'm trying 0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.759 to be legit. You're not helping Eddie. Edie helped me, 0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.560 you know what I mean. I was like, Yo, don't 0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.480 you remember me on that court getting Motown versus Bad 0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:44.520 Boy High represent Don't you remember when I did it? 0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:52.880 And you can't. I'm representing us for the eight thousand. Yeah. 0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:54.960 I had to pay that off over time at that point. 0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:56.640 Oh yeah, you know you definitely got it like a 0:38:56.719 --> 0:39:01.120 thousand dollar a month. 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:03.440 And that's when won the money a month. Yeah you 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.040 knew school. Motherfucker's got that ax to let you pay payment. 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.359 Yeah you got me. Now you got minimum back. Then 0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:10.719 you had to pay all full or your shit gets 0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:11.759 cut off. Yeah. 0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.319 It took me about six months to get that ship 0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:14.399 back on, but we did it. 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:19.080 The dream is real. That sounds exciting. It was amazing. 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:24.080 That was ninety six seven, Yeah, right after. 0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:27.440 Yeah, so we went from you know, two million records. 0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.600 I think when two million don't take a person, when 0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:34.120 two men got fired, then yeah, like the rocket full thing, 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:35.719 I ain't want to move. Then I went to DC 0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:37.759 because of the probation. That was all ninety six, and 0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:41.080 then I met Jessica right after the motown right in 0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:44.880 the middle of the motown thing. So yeah, ninety seven 0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.200 was that fall ninety seven I met her? So, yeah, 0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.839 it was ninety seven, but a year ninety seven, yeah, 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:50.560 oh yeah. 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.480 The nineties, the nineties yeah, oh yeah, nineties period because 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:54.799 there was. 0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:59.120 No blueprint, there was no algorithm, there was no Googles. 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.960 You couldn't google for answers. You have to really have 0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:03.759 the answers. 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.520 And if you did have the answers, people would amplify 0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.840 that you knew the answers. That was the beauty of 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.799 the era. It wasn't just like you could get by 0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:15.640 because you googled and you posted and it looked good. No, 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:17.200 you had to be him. 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.040 You have to really be him. 0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:23.040 And you're talking about when gangsters were starting to come 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:24.480 into the music business. 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:28.000 There were already gangsters. That's about real gangsters. I mean, 0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:29.719 you I mean you look at the stories of Jean 0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:30.719 Griffin and you. 0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.120 I think more so than more so than that they 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.520 were starting to come into business. I think that they 0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:39.600 were out front. Yeah, they had never been out absolutely right, 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:41.560 because we can go back to the beginning of this 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.960 ship that it's been gangsters, right, but they but with 0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:47.240 gangsters used to they used to you know, the curtains. 0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.600 Now they were standing in front of it like no, no gangster. 0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:52.839 Yeah yeah, and we're gonna need all of that. 0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:59.439 Yeah yeah, yeah, I think Gene Griffin did that first. 0:40:59.480 --> 0:40:59.680 Yeah. 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:04.040 Yeah. So I think that's the nineties is when that 0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.279 really became a thing where it was like, oh yeah, 0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.680 and the executive or an executive producer, like people even 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:13.920 know what the executive producer was honestly into the nineties, yeah. 0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:15.399 Because you were going to see the artists or try 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.120 to see who you saw with the artists. 0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.680 You didn't go to the credits, right, the A and 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.560 R is such and such executive producer, does you know? 0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:23.719 You didn't even know the functions. 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.200 And that's one thing I'm so proud of my experience 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.960 and time in Motown because I learned the game. 0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.879 Yeah, it's something that I want to ask you about 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:34.640 that too, because, like you said, you learned the game 0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:37.360 and it's something I want to I want to spotlight 0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:42.759 and highlight Andre Herrell. Yeah, man, he does not get 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:46.560 the credit he deserves in my opinion, in R and. 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.080 B facts, he brought Champagne to the game. 0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:52.480 He absolutely brought Champagne to the game. But just the 0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.279 fact of like he was a savant when it came 0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.520 to R and B music, Like I had the pleasure, 0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.359 through my relationship with Larry Jackson to meet him later 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.040 on and really have some conversations with him and be like, 0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.200 oh shit, h the way he breaks down R and 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:09.720 B music and the way that R and B should 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:13.920 be done and the ideas that he has damn near 0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:17.360 second and nothing second, Like it was special. And the 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:20.960 way that, just like you said, the way his personality 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.840 articulated came through, oh man, be hilarious. 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.200 Yeah yeah, And the craziest thing about it. 0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:28.040 And I'm not gonna say Andrew was the most fashioned 0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:32.040 forward motherfucker, but he was probably the flyes mentally I'd 0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.720 ever met. And because of him, I learned Boskyoch. Because 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.399 of him, I collect art, you know what I'm saying, 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.839 Like when I met him. He had an apartment on 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:42.920 the West side of New York, and we all know 0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:46.120 how expensive and what that was not for black people. 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.440 Then he had a whole top of the apartment building 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:50.880 was his crib. He had a driver with the Rolls Royce. 0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:55.000 The taste level was something that I adopted and possessed. 0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:58.160 I would not be the lifestyle specialist. I would not 0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:00.840 be as important to all these brands and these people 0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:05.000 if not for Andre and as it adheres to music 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:11.120 without Uptown Records, sonically, I don't think Church in the 0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:14.640 sounds that came from Church would have been magnified in 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:19.680 the way that they did. Jodosy arguably right. You know, 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:22.440 I was just listening to something that boys and men 0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.880 were saying. They like, we came with bow ties and 0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.640 cardigans on. These motherfuckers had on leather with bats, you 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:31.080 know what I mean, talking about they gonna get your girl, 0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:31.640 you know what I mean. 0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:32.520 But I think that there. 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:37.279 Was a exercising of freedom that came with Uptown in 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:40.880 a celebratory way. I think we've had many amazing songs 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:45.560 that celebrated life and culture, but Uptown was special, man, 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.160 And when people think about it, they don't think about Andre. 0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:50.800 They think about the artists. But Andre, to your point 0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:54.680 of his expressive nature and his passion for black people 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:59.719 in culture, right, he would explain why there's no Puff Daddy. 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.440 With all Andre, the confidence wouldn't be there for Puff 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:03.520 had he not got. 0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:03.799 It from Dre. 0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:08.040 The problem I had with all that is that no 0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:13.000 one towards the end helped him with his confidence. You 0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:16.560 can imagine having all the success Andre had, all the 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.239 amazing triumphs. I mean strictly Business was a movie and 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.200 a time where we weren't doing movies. New York Undercover 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.960 was a television show that was wildly popular for them 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:27.880 there a decade you know what I'm saying, when we 0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.400 weren't doing that, And this was all Andre's vision and 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:31.279 what he wanted to do. 0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:35.520 And for me, the end of the day. 0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:39.400 For him to die not knowing he was a superhero, 0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.960 or to not feel the love and respect for an 0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:46.440 industry he gave his life to, you know it really 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:48.520 it broke my heart because I was with him the 0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:49.320 last three years. 0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:49.760 Of his life. 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.279 So yeah, I don't feel like he was celebrated enough. 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.680 No, No, and I wouldn't. I would have never done 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:57.440 business with Puff because I never really liked him, you 0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:58.799 know what I'm saying. But I never would have done 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.600 business with him had it not I've been for Dre 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.480 me signing the girl group Dream, the highest debut of 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.160 girl groups, only behind the Spice Girls. Ever, I'm talking 0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:10.160 about Destiny's child and all the one you know what 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:13.400 I'm saying. And what I heard was the free like 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.040 him getting his master's back. That group helped him get 0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:17.880 his masks. Of course LA had something to do with that, 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.920 but like, I wouldn't have went to Revolt and launch 0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:23.279 Revolt Television if it hadn't been for Dre, you know 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:26.600 what I'm saying. So I look at like how he 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:32.319 ended his time here on Earth. It's heartbreaking when you 0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:36.120 think you give your all to something and you're not appreciated, 0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:39.800 fuck rewarded. I'm talking about the people you put in 0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:43.239 the game with the people that was there for you most. 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.239 But I loved him man like a father. 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:48.640 And I don't think there'll be another because you know, 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.880 this generation, the leaders are falling short with pouring into 0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:57.440 humans and teaching them about life and how to handle 0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.680 fame and how to handle success. 0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.080 And I don't think we do it anymore. I think 0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:02.960 it's a money grab. 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.160 The artist is gone, and he was one of the 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:10.400 greatest artists of our time. I agree with you, artists, 0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.879 cultural here's your brush, have at it. 0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.399 Yeah, man, it's just it's crazy. Man. 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.160 I don't want to call out individuals, but I just 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.359 I'm so sadden that he doesn't even I mean, there's 0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.160 those statues this man like he's that caliber. 0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:29.320 That absolutely How long were you at Motown? 0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:33.560 I was at Motown as long as it lasted with 0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.440 his reign. I think I left six months before they 0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:40.080 ousted him. He actually suggested I leave. That's how dope 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.640 he was. He was like, don't burn up with the ship. 0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.160 He's like, people are at you right now, take some 0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:46.879 take some meat. 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:48.279 Did you do so for real? 0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:53.080 No? So for real was uptown? That was still that 0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:55.439 was Uptown? Yeah okay, yeah. 0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:56.799 But I had, you know, the pleasure to work with 0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:58.560 seven o two Terreal Hicks. 0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:01.680 Yeah real, so dope, yea. 0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.960 I was just mad at Kith about the collapse that 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:08.000 they did with the Bronx Tail and they left Terrell 0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:08.520 Hicks out. 0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:08.839 Yeah. 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:09.280 Crazy. 0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:12.080 She did an amazing John I don't know, I don't know. 0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:16.320 Yeah, what's what's what's what's what's old boy and kid Ronnie? 0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.360 Yeah, yeah, come on, that's culture. 0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:31.319 Yeah, I'm so mad at your hairline and the fact 0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:32.439 that your hair is still good. 0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:35.759 I mean, something should happened to I'll show you. 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.600 I can't stand you, know what I mean, And and 0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:41.200 to see you so calm. Let me can't give you 0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:46.400 all yall flyers, see you, so calm man, you go, 0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:49.680 you know, like growth is a real thing. And then 0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.080 doctor bas like you, thank you, thank you. Come on, 0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:54.120 it's fine, it's fine. 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.000 I know, I know how to appreciate you. 0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:57.360 Yeah, I appreciate it. 0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:01.399 But I appreciate the growth, man. And we've all had 0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:06.719 some real serious life conversations in our twenty plus years 0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.520 of friendship, and I just love the growth with all 0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.120 my heart. I do, man, because they are not a 0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:14.040 lot of safe places, and even though some real things 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.120 are being said in these safe places, this is a 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.600 safe place that you've created. And I don't want to 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.360 applaud you both on your grank around and your dedication 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:21.759 to a. 0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:37.360 Part of everyone's been waiting for. Yeah, you do so 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:43.600 many things and part of so many ventures and businesses. 0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:57.520 One thing we always come back to is music that 0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:02.719 has shaped your life. Man, when the backdrop to every experience. 0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:06.440 And I know you have some favorites. I know you 0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.880 have a. 0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.080 Top fun. 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:18.160 Your top five, yeah, top fin. 0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:28.440 Your top five O the Easing alad Me song. 0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:31.600 Yeah yeah, I know. 0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:36.520 You know, I know you road, I know you should 0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:45.000 you go on and tell us. Mister Burchill top Yeah, yeah, 0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:48.240 we're round top. 0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:56.960 Mmy Burns time. 0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:06.760 Fun that boy right, bad doctor Babs, ladies and gentlemen. 0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:13.200 Yeah, I love it, Skinny Burns, Yes, the lifestyle specialists. 0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:20.840 I can't wait to hear this. Your top five R 0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:25.320 and B singers in my hat right for this straight. 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:30.560 You're ready, I'm ready, all right until the end of time. 0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:34.480 I'll be there for you. You own my heart and mind. 0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:38.440 I truly adore you Number one, adore by Prince. 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:43.239 That's that's songs artists, Oh artists, Yeah, oh damn, I 0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:44.680 was about to get prepared your script. 0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:46.360 I love this, Yeah, I like it. 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:49.319 I like the lyrical you know, I show you. 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:57.879 I Knowren's table. Oh ship, all right, right, who are 0:50:57.920 --> 0:50:58.440 the groove? 0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:00.520 And exactly? 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:05.040 Okay, So the top five R and. 0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:08.560 B songs singers singer singers come on. 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:12.880 Yeah, all right, here we go, Top five, R and 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:23.080 B singers, Prince, Michael Jackson, Yeah, Luther Vandross. 0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.840 Why not can I say a group? 0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:27.360 Of course you can. Yeah. 0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:29.520 I can't get away from Joey right not? 0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:30.279 Who would want to? 0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:33.359 Yeah, I can't get away from want to do that? Huh. Yeah, 0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:34.200 I can't get Jack. 0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:35.959 We'll get in there, Jagged Top. 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:40.640 Yeah. 0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:41.160 Yeah. 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:45.520 And it's it's it's you know, I can't. I can't 0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:48.000 leave New Audition, you know what I mean, just as 0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:54.680 a collective. Let's get the top ten. And I can't, 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:59.200 you know, I can't. Christopher Williams doesn't get enough credit. 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:00.520 You don't. 0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:01.239 Don't wake me? 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:03.040 Yeah, yeah, I just don't. 0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:05.480 And he was he was not playing the game. 0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:06.520 Yeah he wasn't. 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:07.520 Yeah. 0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:09.640 And then Pinnograss is another level. 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:12.200 Ain't gonna miss if you're gonna mention Chris yea. 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:16.040 Yeah, Tank, you know rounds out my top. 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:18.600 Yeah, he's at thirty seven people. 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:21.239 I said I was going to top because I'm in 0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:22.960 the top thirty seven people. 0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:26.359 Yeah, it was clearly I got six members and I'm 0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:28.960 not gonna lock four and no, no, we said we 0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:31.359 said group though, and I ain't gonna lie to y'all, 0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:33.799 and I'm gonna say this, this is exclusive because I 0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:39.440 definitely am against the acts that were portrayed by this man. 0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.880 But R Kelly Man, I miss his music. 0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:50.720 Man, all right, your top five, your top five, Yeah, 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.040 R and B songs. Now you can go into your 0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:54.040 to your love. 0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:57.080 Just flipped that for me, and it came no, no, no, 0:52:57.080 --> 0:52:58.440 I have to make it difficult. 0:52:58.520 --> 0:52:58.880 All right. 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:05.880 Yeah, number one, adore, Yeah, number one. I never I 0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:09.640 got to have your face on my pillowcase. If you 0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:13.480 think that I'm the man, I'm a man of exquisite taste. Silk, 0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:19.320 I ported Egyptian lace. Nothing baby, nothing, baby can't compare nothing. 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.960 Go good bad to your lovely face. Do you know 0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:26.680 what I'm saying. I'm sorry, Yeah, Prince, I think. 0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:28.560 Real song right, real song right. 0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:33.200 It was unbelievable too, but a whole lot of there's 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.560 a whole lot of p And he's like, that's your 0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:37.560 daddy wore heels, I said, but he had them all, 0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.440 had them all, and he wasn't about that life. 0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:47.640 Yeah, yeah, get us my father, Yeah yeah, your daddy 0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:48.000 wore here. 0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:49.080 Number two. 0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:52.719 Top five songs of all times too. 0:53:53.880 --> 0:54:00.799 Wow, Yeah, I think never too much, Luther Vandroids, never 0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:01.279 too much. 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:09.000 Yeah, that was a stole cold jam. 0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:12.600 That's a and you know what Womack and Walmack. Baby, 0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:13.359 I'm scared of you. 0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:17.880 Like it's it's a different like that was like, baby, 0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:23.480 I'm scared of you. 0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.480 I don't believe in man. You know what I'm saying. 0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:35.920 I believe I thought you were coming love everthless. 0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:42.279 You singing your own key a little tricky, but you. 0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:49.719 Know the number number three, number three, Man, it's walked 0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:50.640 out of Heaven think. 0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:54.880 Hmm, yeah, walked out of heaven. Special. 0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:00.120 I'm just gonna put can I put jacket in? It's 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.799 for number three because it's it's ever before he came. 0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:05.399 It's a couple of them though. 0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:12.560 You know what I'm saying, I can't and this is 0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:14.480 blasphemous and some of the fifth member because we do 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:19.000 this ship all the time on tour. Gotta be sorry, 0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:22.680 I'm bugging we do this all the time. Yeah, it's 0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:26.640 gotta be number three. Gotta be is just I gotta 0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:28.080 be the one you you know what I'm saying. 0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:33.919 Yeah, I gotta feel your I gotta be Yeah. 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:38.319 So number four, this is hard, by the way, this 0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:39.480 is not as easy. 0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:41.719 This is you're watching other people do it though you 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:42.440 be like man. 0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:47.040 I would have said, judging like them showing no grace. Yeah, 0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.200 for I'm gonna say tender. 0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:53.919 Love by for there we go. Come on. 0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:56.560 Yeah, And I rushed through that. I apologize. 0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.160 I don't know why or what's happening right now, because 0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:00.680 in the moment on stage, I can come with it. 0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:05.400 Lifestyle Specialists, we are getting ready to create your voltron 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:09.080 right where we create your super R and B artists? 0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.759 Got it? So we got to know of all the 0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:15.920 artists you've ever heard to build this artist, who would 0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:18.360 you get the vocal from? Who would you get the 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:21.800 performance style from? Who would you get the styling from? 0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:22.360 Jesus? 0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:25.160 Who would you get the passion of the artists from. 0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:28.319 Let's start with the vocal. Who's vocal do you want 0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:31.800 on your super R and B artist? One vocal, one vocal, 0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:39.560 one vocal, Prince singer, lea singer, The styling, the performance 0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:48.080 style on stage perform jack performance Okay, the styling, the artist, 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:52.239 the drip, the drip preference, this is preference to right. 0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:55.680 Let's give it to Mary cha mm hmm, hey, j 0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.320 Fly Fly. 0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:02.520 From the beginning. I mean from the jerseys with the hat. 0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:05.520 She's been onto something since the beginning. 0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:07.799 Yeah, she's been on something, yeah for sure. 0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:16.320 Passion of the artists, passion, sweating, pound over to place. 0:57:16.640 --> 0:57:18.200 Yeah yeah, would you do that? 0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:18.640 Yeah? 0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:19.400 Would you do that? 0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:22.440 It would be so nice. 0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:28.040 Yeah, we're so far from that place. They pull up, 0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:32.480 pull what do you mean what you're doing? I'm just 0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:33.320 on the pull up. 0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:40.520 Even turn them off, the off. Yeah, there was no delivery, 0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:42.400 like it was different. 0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:44.560 We got, we got, we gotta get back to that 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:48.439 road man sizing like talking to the talk. 0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.240 We gotta just make the records. I mean, you know, 0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:54.720 I think that that is the to me, that is 0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:58.320 the wrap up of our whole conversation today. It's more 0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:01.080 so of like she's got to do it. 0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:02.440 Yeah right, you know what I mean. 0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:04.560 It's one thing to talk about it. And even from 0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:09.080 okay you would say, from from tanking, not from our space. Okay, 0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:10.840 y'all do it, but then from your space, it's like, 0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:11.720 go sign it. 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:15.680 Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. I hear you 0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:16.960 loud and clear. I received that. 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:19.440 And I even heard his comment earlier about music and 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:22.919 me loving it being the soundtrack to my lifestyle. It's 0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:26.960 just a business that has never really fulfilled me, you 0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:29.640 know what I mean. You know, even with the success 0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:31.640 I've had in it and the thoughts of you know, 0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:36.600 Uber's success, it's just, you know, it's just certain things 0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:38.520 that I can align with, you know, I put my 0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:41.160 hands on somebody. So leaving the music business probably the 0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:43.280 best thing for me, because it's just, you know, they 0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:46.000 don't play fair. There's no appreciation. That's why I honor 0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:50.320 your relationship. They're getting rid of whoever along the way, 0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:53.040 you know, like just different things. It's just not my thing. 0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:54.600 But I love music and I will bring it to 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:54.840 R and. 0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.080 B money asap if I see it. 0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:00.000 Well, hold you to that. 0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:02.000 Yeah, no question done. 0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:04.440 All right, we got it, We got we got one 0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:05.200 more thing before you. 0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:14.120 Get out of here. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, may fixties microphones. 0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:15.880 I ain't saying no names. 0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:17.160 I ain't saying no names. 0:59:17.480 --> 0:59:20.200 I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. 0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:20.760 Where you are? 0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:24.080 Who? What you did? 0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:29.280 You don't say? She say? 0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:42.520 Yeah Church, Yeah, yeah. This this is very very important part, 0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:45.840 a very important segment of the show. Yeah, it's important, yeah, yeah, 0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:49.400 especially for man like Kenny bar right, you know the travels. 0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:51.120 You know, you said before, I've been around the world, 0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:55.280 yes and yah yeah yeah. 0:59:54.560 --> 1:00:00.440 Literally, so this segment of the show, you tell us 1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:03.840 a story funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? 1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:04.080 Right? 1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:07.640 The only rule to the game is you can't say 1:00:07.680 --> 1:00:11.919 no names. Got it? Yeah? 1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:13.520 I love that. Yeah? 1:00:13.960 --> 1:00:16.160 Hold no, I got it, I got it? 1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:17.320 You got it? 1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:17.680 Yeah? 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:23.440 Okay, okay. So right now, this is Kenny Burns twenty six, 1:00:23.600 --> 1:00:31.120 twenty Studio forty three, Uncle Nearest ownership, all the labels, 1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:34.920 all the songs and dance, the Nice and Burns Show, 1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:38.880 all the cool shit. Listen he say lifestyle especially, I 1:00:38.960 --> 1:00:40.840 just say cool shit. He is the king of cool shit. 1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:45.480 To me, he been the coolest nigga forever at all times. 1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:49.240 So right now he gonna give us his I ain't 1:00:49.320 --> 1:00:50.880 saying no names. 1:00:51.520 --> 1:00:53.000 Let me get down to my seat. 1:00:53.080 --> 1:00:57.360 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, ladies, Jemmy was on the island. 1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:59.439 Of capri Ah where you're going. 1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:04.240 Yeah, I was working with somebody and this person you know, 1:01:04.440 --> 1:01:06.520 might be an icon or not, you know what I'm saying. 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:09.200 But I'm on this island and you know, we're in 1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:14.280 the midst of creating you know, and I thought I 1:01:14.320 --> 1:01:16.880 was catching some energy, you know what I mean. And 1:01:17.000 --> 1:01:19.760 you know, at this time I'm not in a position 1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:23.080 to do anything about said energy. But you know, because 1:01:23.080 --> 1:01:26.200 this is such a you know, enormous figure, I'm like, 1:01:26.280 --> 1:01:30.160 damn at, please let me just see what you're talking 1:01:30.200 --> 1:01:33.120 about if it actually is what I think it is. 1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:33.520 You know. 1:01:34.440 --> 1:01:37.680 And so you know, we go through a couple of 1:01:37.800 --> 1:01:41.320 rounds of dinner and yachts, and you know, this is 1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:42.680 the life, you know what I mean, This is what 1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:44.080 I signed up for, you know. 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:48.240 And you know, one. 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:51.320 Night in the club, you know, the beautiful Island Capri, 1:01:51.440 --> 1:01:55.600 after about a week and a half of you know, 1:01:55.760 --> 1:01:57.600 just being around each other, you know what I mean, 1:01:58.400 --> 1:02:02.360 I'm dancing in the club and who comes dancing. 1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:05.920 Up on me? Yes, I'm like, this is this is 1:02:06.000 --> 1:02:07.960 not what I'm. 1:02:07.840 --> 1:02:10.320 Expecting, but kind of expecting a little bit, right, but 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:12.120 not in public, you know what I mean. 1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:15.320 So I'm like, okay, cool, yeah, all right, cool? Were dancing? 1:02:15.600 --> 1:02:19.480 Yeah, all right, oh okay, cool? All are you so 1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:22.280 might be a little more than dancing? Huh okay, all right? 1:02:22.280 --> 1:02:22.560 Cool? 1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:27.360 So about to leave the club, you know, and there 1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:30.439 were two routes to go, you know, to my room 1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:35.480 or to the yacht. You know, next thing, I know, 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:39.960 somebody's grabbing my hand and I'm like, what's going on? 1:02:40.160 --> 1:02:40.960 You know, and. 1:02:43.520 --> 1:02:45.760 It's fucked up. I couldn't really do anything about it, 1:02:45.800 --> 1:02:48.200 you know what I mean. I couldn't really you know, 1:02:48.200 --> 1:02:49.960 I went to my room. I didn't go to the yacht, 1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:51.640 you know what I mean. But I did the responsible thing, 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:53.919 you know what I mean, because that's what I should 1:02:53.960 --> 1:02:58.240 have did. And I can't say anything else because it's uh, 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:01.919 what is it names? 1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:04.840 But it would have been legendary. 1:03:04.960 --> 1:03:07.840 And the and the gangster thing is is that all 1:03:07.880 --> 1:03:10.280 the fields that I thought that were coming my way, 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:12.560 all the energy that was coming my way. I ended 1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:17.440 up leaving because of you know, I you know, I 1:03:17.560 --> 1:03:19.479 couldn't do anything, and I didn't want to be there 1:03:19.520 --> 1:03:22.440 with the pressure, and so I ended up sending someone 1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:26.720 else from the company to kind of be in pocket. 1:03:26.920 --> 1:03:30.200 And I jokingly called back and was like, you know, 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:32.400 a couple of weeks later after he had been there, 1:03:32.400 --> 1:03:35.320 I was like, yo, with life scanning that, you know 1:03:35.360 --> 1:03:38.120 what I'm saying. And he's like like, chill, Like what 1:03:38.160 --> 1:03:38.680 you're talking about? 1:03:38.760 --> 1:03:39.000 Chill? 1:03:39.760 --> 1:03:42.520 Like what's yet I gotta check on the movie. He's like, well, 1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:44.640 now you said that, like you kind of I was like, 1:03:44.920 --> 1:03:46.360 you know what's going on? 1:03:46.480 --> 1:03:47.720 Relax, you know what I mean. 1:03:47.760 --> 1:03:49.560 He's like, well, look, we've been kind of talking to 1:03:49.600 --> 1:03:52.280 each other over the last two weeks and. 1:03:52.680 --> 1:03:53.720 Talk about my girl like that. 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:56.640 Yeah, yeah, that's exactly. 1:04:00.720 --> 1:04:07.040 No pet names. Actually you don't. Yeah, don't don't go 1:04:07.160 --> 1:04:10.280 the cold my girl, you know, because you saved the coke. 1:04:12.080 --> 1:04:13.560 Yeah, you little cold out there. 1:04:13.560 --> 1:04:14.680 You got with you yea. 1:04:15.600 --> 1:04:18.040 So he ended up dating and getting engaged. 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:23.520 Mm hmmmmmm and you and you're still on your morals 1:04:23.560 --> 1:04:24.120 and still on. 1:04:24.080 --> 1:04:27.960 The morals man, you know, I was becoming a family man. 1:04:28.800 --> 1:04:32.400 Yeah, and you abstained mine my mind. 1:04:33.760 --> 1:04:38.840 Yeah, definitely sustained and helped myself down. And that was 1:04:38.840 --> 1:04:41.240 a notch kind of joint. That would have been just 1:04:41.240 --> 1:04:43.360 something you did, you know, put that on the wall. 1:04:43.480 --> 1:04:44.640 Yeah, you know what I mean. 1:04:44.760 --> 1:04:48.640 But I was in you upstate. I believe you. 1:04:49.360 --> 1:04:51.360 I kind of believe you. 1:04:52.240 --> 1:04:53.240 I look up pre. 1:04:58.440 --> 1:04:59.120 Line it up. 1:05:01.160 --> 1:05:06.880 I kind of believe put that on the ground about you. 1:05:06.920 --> 1:05:10.160 That that would that, you know, in any other circumstance 1:05:10.240 --> 1:05:12.960 or situation, that would have definitely been yeah one on 1:05:13.000 --> 1:05:13.360 the belt. 1:05:13.880 --> 1:05:20.040 Wow, but we we know that. You know, uh Burns, 1:05:20.120 --> 1:05:24.720 you are not short of opportunity, but you are more. 1:05:26.200 --> 1:05:27.960 Full of morality. 1:05:28.560 --> 1:05:30.760 Yeah, some things have to stay in play. And you 1:05:30.800 --> 1:05:31.440 are a gentleman. 1:05:32.000 --> 1:05:36.479 Know you know your boundary. Flirt like a motherfucker, don't fuck. 1:05:36.640 --> 1:05:40.680 Yeah you like that? Okay? Is that? Is that the 1:05:40.720 --> 1:05:42.480 past that. 1:05:44.240 --> 1:05:48.560 You can flirting as long as certain parameters and you 1:05:48.640 --> 1:05:52.520 go home. You flirt, but don't be fucking Yeah, you 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:54.040 can flirt, but don't fuck. 1:05:54.920 --> 1:06:00.200 Okay, Uh man? You are you are? I mean you home. 1:06:00.280 --> 1:06:02.080 It's like it's like, you know, trying to close it 1:06:02.080 --> 1:06:04.080 out is weird, but it's like, you know, we love 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:09.760 your brother. Man, that's never gonna change. We got your back, man. 1:06:09.840 --> 1:06:13.680 We appreciate all that is you. We're here for everything 1:06:14.680 --> 1:06:17.000 it is you. You know we are we are, We 1:06:17.040 --> 1:06:19.080 are a phone call away. You don't even ask us, 1:06:19.160 --> 1:06:21.440 just tell us where it is. You know what I'm saying. 1:06:22.280 --> 1:06:27.880 And your contributions they're still needed as we speak about this. 1:06:28.600 --> 1:06:32.720 You know, this space, which you know you've expressed, is 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:36.440 it just you know, from a from a mental space, 1:06:36.480 --> 1:06:39.240 it just it doesn't serve you well, you know what 1:06:39.280 --> 1:06:43.280 I mean, like there's still a there's still that voice, 1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:47.120 and there's still that representation of what you represent that's 1:06:47.160 --> 1:06:49.360 still in some way, shape or form needed and what 1:06:49.400 --> 1:06:52.320 we do, you know what I mean, and even even 1:06:52.400 --> 1:06:54.480 into help it helping us do what we do. Like 1:06:54.960 --> 1:06:58.560 that input and that wisdom. You can't keep that all 1:06:58.600 --> 1:06:59.080 to yourself. 1:06:59.080 --> 1:07:01.040 Brother, I appreciate them here for it. You know, we 1:07:01.120 --> 1:07:04.360 have our conversations. Yeah, if you never need anything, you 1:07:04.400 --> 1:07:06.320 know what I mean, as it adheres to the label 1:07:06.400 --> 1:07:08.800 and you already know personally, but I would love to 1:07:08.800 --> 1:07:11.360 support your movement because it's amazing and you're making some 1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:19.640 great quality, sustainable, inspirational legacy written music and I love it. 1:07:19.680 --> 1:07:20.560 So I'm probat of you both. 1:07:21.520 --> 1:07:24.640 And there it is, Ladies, your money is tank. This 1:07:24.680 --> 1:07:27.840 is the R and B Money podcast. The authority yeah 1:07:28.080 --> 1:07:30.640 on all things R and B and we have just 1:07:30.720 --> 1:07:33.440 talked through the authority on so many things. Man, you 1:07:33.520 --> 1:07:37.400 are a blessed brother, gifted brother in all facets of 1:07:37.600 --> 1:07:47.840 life than flirt. 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