1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: R and B Money. Honey, we are thanks take valoti. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: We are the authorities on. 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: All things R and B. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank. This is the 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: r Andy Money Podcast, the authority on all things R 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and B. Oh my goodness in the building. Hell, we 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: have a curator, a manager of musical vibrations, the host 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: with the most yeah uh, and also gives you the lifestyle. 9 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: What took us to Prince come now. 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: Gives us the lifestyle to go along with it. A 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: lover of music and our friend mister Kinney burns the lifestyle. 12 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: All right, so let's start here. Let's start here. They 13 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: already kicked it off because we had to go here first. Yes, 14 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: some people love music, right, They love their favorite artists. 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: They you know they they love they love their music. 16 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: You know, their their their presence, their outfits. They've seen 17 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: countless shows. They have all the albums, they know all 18 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: the lyrics. Kenny, you take it to another level your 19 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: love for Prince the the late great, one of the 20 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: greatest of all times. You took your fiftieth birthday party 21 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: to his house. Yes, now, listen, I love Marvin Gaye, 22 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: I love I love all these guys. I don't know 23 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna have my birthday party at the house. 24 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: You had it at his house? 25 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: Yes, And it was a ton It was a time. 26 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, press you know what, man, that had 27 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: been a dream of mine. You know, no one had 28 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: actually done an event at Paisley Park outside. 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: Of Prince in his estate. 30 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: So this was like the. 31 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: First party for someone outside of the inner sanctum. And 32 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: you know, I was in the barbershop one day and 33 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: Big shopped at my barbera Ron. He was like, what 34 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: are you doing your fiftieth I was like, I don't know, man, 35 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 3: I can't think about I've done with Sachi mansion and 36 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: been all over the world. You know what I'm saying, 37 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: dots and robotses some mos shit, weare my daughter? He said, Man, 38 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: do it at your daddy house. And I was like, 39 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 3: my father's dead. I can't What are you talking about, Ron? 40 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 3: He said, no, Prince, I said, Paisley Park. So it 41 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: was one phone call, man, I just I made a 42 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: phone call. It happened, and it was a night to 43 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: remember to say the least. 44 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: No, you affected the economy of Minnesota. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 45 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 2: no facts. I'm on the plane and it's all black people. Yeah, 46 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: and it's all black people, I know. Right, I'm like, okay, 47 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: so everybody going to and then and then the steward 48 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: it says, you guys must be going to that party, right, Yeah. 49 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: I think I was on one of the later flights. Everybody, 50 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: you must be going to that party. I'm like, actually 51 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: we are. They're like, yeah, we just probably had five 52 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: or six planes. Yeah. 53 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: No, it was seven hundred I think and thirty something 54 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: people that literally flew no one, No one there was 55 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: from Minneapolis. 56 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it. 57 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: Was about the economy. 58 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: That was great. 59 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 4: No, listen, I listen. 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: I am proud to mean something to somebody, and I 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: think my evolution in this business and who I am 63 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: the people, that's my legacy, you know what I mean. 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: Not just that I've curated and had some of the 65 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: most incredible times, you know what I'm saying, celebrating or 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: in a celebratory manner, but like I really mean, some 67 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: of the people, I think they take value in the 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: fact that I've been married twenty four years, the fact 69 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: that I've been present in my kids' lives publicly, you know, 70 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: in the right ways, not just for photo ops. I 71 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: think all the these things are like, you know, things 72 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: that really resonate with people. So I don't take seven 73 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: hundred plus people flying anywhere, let alone. You know what 74 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying, two three four, if you can effectively expired. Yeah, 75 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: and look at god, though it was fifty degrees that 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: night in Minneapolis October, I had heater, was like it 77 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: was gonna be freezing. 78 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: I had sludy vegan just because I knew people needed 79 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 4: to put that. Did we not? 80 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god? 81 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 82 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 4: And guess what. 83 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: I didn't get one no way sloppy toppy until I 84 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: got to the hotel. I didn't get nothing. You know 85 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I didn't get nothing off the food. 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: And you know, if it cost me eighteen thousand dollars 87 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 3: put that truck on the truck. I just want to 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 3: tell you, I hope you enjoyed it in eighteen grand Yeah, yeah, 89 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: that was a mon That part came for real, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 90 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: There was some things that happened at that part. I 91 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: don't really want to get into that. But other than that, 92 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: everybody had a good time. 93 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: Well yeah, of course there's some behind the scenes, yeah, you. 94 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: Know, behind the per the purple, purple, yeah, purple curtain purple. Yeah. Yeah. 95 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: It was painful, man, it was painful, but nonetheless God prevailed. 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I think I think love prevailed man. 97 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: People for sure. You know what I'm saying, You've, uh, 98 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: you've shown authentic love, genuine love for everybody. Everybody, Yeah, everybody. 99 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: I expected to see everybody that I saw at your right. 100 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't like I was like, oh wait they came, No, 101 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: we all came. We were all supposed to be there. 102 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We're all supposed to be 103 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: there celebrating our brother. 104 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 105 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: It was a you know, a spiritual moment for me. 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: I don't think I'll do another one until the next 107 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: big birthday. But yeah, I think, like, you know, as 108 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: I've become more aligned with my passion and my purpose, 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: you know, I. 110 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 4: Just feel like it's another level, you know what I mean. 111 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: So that was kind of my old to the party life, 112 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: you know, and the next level will be more you know. 113 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: Not that that wasn't me the for not that was 114 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: an exceptional but I think there's some real like God's 115 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: work and place for you know. 116 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: So let's let's let's let's go back to the beginning. 117 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: Let's let's go back to the house. Man, let's go 118 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: let's go back to where it all started. I remember 119 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: my first time seeing you at Republic Gardens. Wow, the 120 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: shot to Mark Bard, shot at to Mark Bar. That 121 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: was my first time seeing It's like, who's running things? Yeah, 122 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: he's running running, So he was scream called running thing. 123 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. But even before that, man, you know, how 124 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: did all of this begin? Because you know, you you 125 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: you seem to be born to to be this. 126 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: I appreciate this, you know, I was. 127 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: I was always you know, conscious of my people skills 128 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: and the value that came with the ability to move people. 129 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: And it started in the streets. You know, I wanted 130 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: to hustle to have right. I didn't, you know, necessarily 131 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: want to be a hustler or want to be in 132 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: the street doing the wrong thing, but I think it 133 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: was a necessity. Like much of us at that age, 134 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: you saw, you know, what you saw, and you wanted 135 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: to emulate that on some level. So but being in 136 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: the street taught me unmeasurable, invaluable lessons of how to 137 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: move in life. 138 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: And I just you know, I was. 139 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: Always the good time, even on the strip, you know 140 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: what I mean, or even you know, in the midst 141 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: of some danger, you know what I mean. 142 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: It was always I was that relief for people. 143 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: But when I was in the twelfth grade, I started 144 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: relentlessly going to try and be a part of this 145 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: party scene you mentioned with Republic Guards, the Ritz. 146 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. 147 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: Killing the jar Row. 148 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: Chicago's like all these places, and I'm like, you know, 149 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: we in the street so we can pop some more 150 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: at White Star, you know what I mean, and that 151 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: shit all, you know what I mean. So then I'm like, Damn, 152 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: I don't really want to be a hustle on. I 153 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: want to be in its life because you know, our 154 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: backdrop is Howard University. How do you not adore h 155 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: you you I did not a lot of people think 156 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: I did because we terrorized that motherfucker you. 157 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: Know I'm talking about. 158 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: But were at every party and big shot to Ron 159 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: de Berry, God Rest of Dead, you know, Steve Solomon 160 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: got a shout out, Danny Davis like, oh you know. 161 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: It was so many promoters that like we were like 162 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: in manti Wanza who managed Bizz and they were they 163 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: would fuck with us, you know what I mean. So 164 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 3: I got the opportunity with Manti and Biz to bring 165 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: Biz's crazy. Now you can imagine I'm getting money. Don't 166 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: nobody want to carry no crates. But if it means 167 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: I could get into these clubs and be a part 168 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: of this, I'm trying to figure it out. Eventually, that 169 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: led to him taking us to Uva and all surrounding area. 170 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: So I just was kind of like, you know, wanting 171 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: to be around it, and one foot in front of 172 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: the other led me to like opportunities. And I tried 173 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: to grab the mic one night and Bez looked at 174 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: me like I stole his you know what I'm talking about, 175 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: beatboxing machine or something like. He was looking at me like, 176 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 3: what are you doing. I was like, yo, you know 177 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. He's like, all right, go ahead. So 178 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: no conversation at all. You just why you just felt 179 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: it in your spirit. Well I had kind of been 180 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: inching up to it, saying I want to do it 181 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: because of the reaction like Biz. You know, Bierz doesn't 182 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: get the credit he deserves as far as an entertainer. 183 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: He was playing theme songs from television shows at the 184 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: party and it was going crazy. He was stopping the 185 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: party because he couldn't really DJ all the way in 186 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 3: the beginning, and just you know, doing some beatbox shit 187 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: and then you know, bring the music back, I mean, 188 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: whatever it was to make you have a good time. 189 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: And me watching him, I'm like, I could do that. 190 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: I might be I might not be a beatboxing mother, 191 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: but I could talk that shit, especially to these women. 192 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 3: So a few times I had snuck on, but not 193 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: in the main kind of capacity. But I think it 194 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 3: was one night at UVA that man did something He's like, 195 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: you know, and I got the mic and I just 196 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 3: went for it, you know what I mean, no permission, 197 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: no nothing, and I did to throw your hands in 198 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: the airwave you just don't care. 199 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 4: And it worked and I was. 200 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: Like, see, I told. 201 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 4: You, you know what I mean. 202 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: And I think from then on I just would I 203 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: would tamper with it. But literally, like the DC thing 204 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 3: was like a training ground because Atlanta became my playground. Atlanta, 205 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: like Leo had called me my cousin, Leo Big Shouter, 206 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: Leo Williams. 207 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: He would go on to go to college. I got 208 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: locked up my senior. 209 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: Year, so he would go high Yah senior high school, 210 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 3: and he would go on to Morehouse College, and he 211 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: would always tell me, you gotta come. 212 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: So Low got y'all to Atlanta. 213 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: Yeah Leo went first. 214 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Leo went to Morehouse and you know, I'm 215 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: trying to go finish our basketball dream. I went to 216 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: Montgomery College, you know, the community college, community college, and 217 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 3: I was hooping. I pushed somebody out the air one night, 218 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: caused the whole melee. You know, all this dumb you 219 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So he kept calling me, you 220 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: got to come down him and fuck that basketball. So 221 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: you playing Morris Brown or Clark or Moore come to Morehouse. 222 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 3: It's like, I don't think I got the grades for that, 223 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: but I'll come check you. So he kept asking me, 224 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: and finally, in the spring of ninety two, he said, 225 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: you gotta come to Freaknik. And I'm like, what is 226 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: this magical thing that you just said, not knowing what 227 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: it was, It's Freaknick. I'm like, but how do I 228 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: sign up with. 229 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: The sound like something you want to be? 230 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: I'm nineteen years old. I'm like, freak Nick. He's like, 231 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: come on, damn, and I'm telling you. So I got 232 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 3: cleared while people let me go down to him. I 233 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: was going to visit colleges and it changed my life, 234 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 235 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: I was going to visit collegists. 236 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was, let me tell you. 237 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah right, but I see this beautiful black oasis 238 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: of like you know, and by the time of me 239 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: getting there, Lee had already told every Bible scarface he 240 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: had told like he had it wasn't no social media. 241 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, he gonna be out, He's gonna get out, 242 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: He'll benick. 243 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 244 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 4: So you don't want no social media? So he telling it? 245 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: So I come, I mean, should kill Stewart off the plane? 246 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, a lot of people that 247 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: end up becoming, you know, great friends and running this 248 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 3: industry of ours, but fresh off the plans, like this 249 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: is where I'm supposed to be, and we were just 250 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: doing all the DC shit. And what I mean by 251 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: DC shit is like we was knocking everything DWN Like 252 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: it was just a who can we get? 253 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 254 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 4: It was like so many beautiful women. Obviously you know, there's. 255 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: An all girls school across from Morehouse, Spellman College, one 256 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: of my favorite places to attend, you know, in that era, 257 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: you know, And then he said they've been Clark Atlanta University, 258 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: the most underrated HPCU on the planet. And it was all, 259 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: you know, this one big congregation. It was all this 260 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: one big you know what I mean. And I was 261 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: trying to really plot on how I was gonna take 262 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: it over. So I had to go home and I toltally. 263 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: I said, fall, I'm coming to school. So I'm trying 264 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: to enroll. No one would accept me but the newly 265 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: accredited Morse Brown. Yeah, I love you, thank you. Big 266 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: shout to Morris Brown College. 267 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: Enrolled. 268 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: I enrolled. Man got down there. The first week I 269 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: got down there, we do we do a party at 270 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 3: our apartment. And yes, my entry into school was not 271 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: a dorm. 272 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 4: We was living. 273 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: We was in all Steale out there by six Flags 274 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 3: and we had a two bedroom the pools right next door. 275 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: It was the thing. 276 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: So we do a party the first week that you 277 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 3: moved in. First week, the first week. Now we'd have 278 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: made an impression during freedomy leo them down and running 279 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 3: the muck anyway, they already like that. Twenty six twenty 280 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: is known. We do a party called twenty six twenty. 281 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: Blunt Heill presents the cookout, and we did it out 282 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: our house. I'm gonna provide the paper fly so you 283 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: can show it right now. Okay, when I tell you 284 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 3: this party was so legendary, not just because I ended 285 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: the night and some spiedos and Timulus, but it was 286 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: so legendary. Yeah yeah, yeah, I know, shit gets crazy, 287 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: but it went. It went so dumb. They were like 288 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: when the next party. Everything from that day for was 289 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: win the next party. So Big Shot the Blue he 290 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: Marco Blue Johnson. He owned Marco's Peter and he was 291 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: like my first big brother. And Leo had a car, 292 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: but Leo was kind of stingy with his car. So 293 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: I would kind of link up with Blue to go terrorized, 294 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: right because I wanted to. 295 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: Be in there. I definitely need a car in Atlanta. 296 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah no, you had to live in a Yeah, we 297 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,239 Speaker 4: lived in Austelle. 298 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 299 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: So I literally, like, you know, link up with Blue 300 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: and we started doing promotions for the Phoenix, and you know, 301 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: Phoenix Phoenix Night Club ended up becoming the warehouse where 302 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: we made the legendary funk Clinic. But the Phoenix was like, 303 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: you know, it was in the city and for Atlanta. 304 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: If you know anything about Atlanta, all the popping parties 305 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: outside of one twelve and maybe a few little restaurant 306 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: spots like sports bars type things were outside of Atlanta 307 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: all the popping clubs, right, So this club was by 308 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: the AUC, the closest club to the AUC. Yeah, so 309 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: I'm assuming things went on there, but it wasn't. 310 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: It was. 311 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: It was more of an Atlanta crowd in the school crowd. 312 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: So I'm making my bones getting to know the city, 313 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So we do a Big 314 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: Head in Blue Joint. That was the first party kind 315 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: of collect I'm big here, Kenny, everybody what Kenny? 316 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 4: That was why you didn't know that? 317 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: That's why I. 318 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: Literally on the flyers a Big Head and Blue Joint. 319 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: That was like the first So long story short. My 320 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: crew kept coming to the club, Leo, Damon, GJ. Like 321 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: you know, everybody was coming to the club, and we 322 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: just kept making a name for ourselves. This is why 323 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: I want to say that all aspiring you know, lifestyle 324 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: specialists people are the peace. You know what I'm saying, 325 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: to your success like I just was, you know, I 326 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: knew everybody. I made everybody feel comfortable. To mind, it's 327 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: not my party yet, I'm promoting for the club. And 328 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: so long story short, man, we get an opportunity to 329 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: get the actual club and do a night. So when 330 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: when this happened, Steve Solomon that did Chicago's in DC, 331 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 3: you know Steve, he came down. He's like, Yo, you 332 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: need to meet my man AG. I'm like, who is 333 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: this AG guy? He's like, he does parties of Ethiopian 334 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: Vibrations and you know he's a great promoter. I was like, 335 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: all right, cool, you know they about to give me 336 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: the spot. 337 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: What's up? Let's link up. So we ended up doing 338 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: the party. 339 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: We were called the fly Boys at first, right, and 340 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: it was a whack ass name that Steve Solomon god 341 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: rested dead made up. 342 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: But I hated the fucking name. 343 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: I always want the name of twentyes to twenty But 344 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: I had to kind of like prove that I was 345 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: the one noting to. So Alex get one who's now 346 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: AG Entertainment does AG turing Steve Solomon. We went in 347 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: and we started doing you know, I don't even know 348 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: what the name is. I know we were fly Boys. 349 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: But anyway, long story short, we got an opportunity to 350 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: take the club. You know what I'm saying from this 351 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: current partnership, and the owner was like, you know, he 352 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: wanted to basically give it to the twenty six to 353 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: twenty crew, and I was like, I don't know if 354 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: I want to do that yet, but let me tell 355 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: him we're gonna call it twenty six twenty and see 356 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 3: what happened. So we end up calling him twenty six 357 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 3: twenty percents and da da da da da. So my 358 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: crew of course was like, they ain't twenty six twenty, 359 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like. 360 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: We need to own it outright. 361 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: So around this time is when I meet Wendell and 362 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: when daw White came in to play, like you know, 363 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: one as a big brother, but he also was outside 364 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: outside like he's from Detroit whatever thought of everybody from Detroit. 365 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 4: Everybody knew slick and he was getting it. 366 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 3: I mean when we met him, O game went to 367 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: another level because he had the black on black Lexus 368 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 3: SC three whatever it was with the BBS. He had 369 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: the land Cruise and the range rover, all the things. 370 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 3: So you can imagine twenty six twenty playing without toys, 371 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: and then twenty six twenty playing with toys. There's a 372 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: whole nother offer. So then it was like, all right, 373 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: I need to take this. So I asked Alex. I 374 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: was like, Yo, I'm about to take this. Steve is 375 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: making three thousand dollars a week for nothing. He don't 376 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: come here, he don't promote. You know what I'm saying, like, 377 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: what's up? You're coming with me? It's like, I can't 378 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: really do that to Steve. So I was like, all right, peace, 379 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: We remain coolpt up, kept it moving. But that ninety four. 380 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: So now you got your own club. 381 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 3: I have the club, the main club in Atlanta that 382 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: was called the Phoenix, and then that fall went to 383 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: the warehouse, and the warehouse is where we created funk 384 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: Clinic Friday. This is where the you know, the notorious 385 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: Big Mac promo fight and all this shit with Mark 386 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: Pitts who used to be called Gucci Don and him 387 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: and then puffing them trying to you know, wolfing all them, 388 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: trying to control the situation that's pulling them things out 389 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: of me. 390 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is all yeah, this is all like fun facts. 391 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: It's been in a couple of interviews, but it literally 392 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: went to another level because not only have we did 393 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: the groundwork in Atlanta and made bones as far as 394 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: like being known throughout the city. But we had the 395 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 3: auc on lot and anything that came to Atlanta came 396 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: do me. 397 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: A favor, Do me a favor, right, because you know, 398 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: we always go back to our podcast being informative, in 399 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: our podcast being something that you can learn from fact 400 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: and that you can pick up. Obviously, your business grew 401 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: to other things, but at this point you are a 402 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 2: club promoter. Yeah, can you give us a little bit 403 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: of a breakdown of how that works psych for a 404 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: young dude, young girl who wants to get into art, 405 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: not even young whatever, whoever wants to get into that space. 406 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: How does that work right where you have your night? 407 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: Do you actually rent the club from the owners of 408 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: the Phoenix or is it just like, Okay, I'm gonna 409 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: get the door, y'all take the bar. How does that 410 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: usually work for promoters that you can make you can 411 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: make a living in this. 412 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so, Like I mentioned the Bigger and Blue joint, 413 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: we were doing promotions for the Phoenix. We got to 414 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: the point where we're eventually rented the club and we 415 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: benefited from having autonomy at the door. Right as you 416 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: get bigger, you have options to also get pieces of 417 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: the bar and things of that nature. And I haven't 418 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 3: been a promoter in a long time, but if I 419 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: was advising anyone on how to get into it, it 420 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: would be to own your own right, Like if you 421 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: can't afford to get a brick and mortar and do 422 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 3: your own own version, get with a good partner that 423 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 3: need your services. Understand your value and what you bring 424 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: to the table. If you can put a thousand, two 425 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: thousand people in the building, you know, you can get 426 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 3: twenty five percent of the doll or you can get 427 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: fifty percent of the door, you can get one hundred 428 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: percent of the doing and get twenty five percent of 429 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: the bars, all how you negotiate. So I think that 430 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: ownership is key when you're getting into anything. But you 431 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: have to start somewhere, So don't be scared to like, 432 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: get involved in what somebody else is doing. Get noticed 433 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 3: for what your talents and superpowers are, getting noticed for 434 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 3: your ability to put people in the building, and then 435 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 3: grow from there. 436 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: But there's all types of scenarios that you. 437 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 2: Can create for you And you were doing this once 438 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: a week, once a. 439 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: Week, yeah, okay, and then we grew into off you know, 440 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: off of the or we moved from the warehouse to 441 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 3: you know, we had an Olympic Nike Village of ninety six. 442 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: For New Years, we did the Fox it was called 443 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 4: Celebrity Fair. 444 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: We partnered with Noontime and you know we started doing 445 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 3: bigger and you know, better things. And we actually had 446 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 3: the Snoop Tour when I was twenty years old. We 447 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: got locked up. We had that the Omnis now well 448 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 3: I think it's State Farm Arena now, but we had 449 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: like when Jodish he was on tour and they was 450 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 3: doing the whole things we had that. We end up 451 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: not doing it because Snowpad got locked up. But we 452 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: I mean we went from zero to hero quick. 453 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: So when you were when you were building, like building 454 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: the pieces right, in terms of growing as a promoter, 455 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: what do you feel like was the most important nuance? 456 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: Would it be DJ in terms of music being able 457 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: to hold those people there, or how many women you 458 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: were able to get into that spot to make the 459 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: dudes come along, or a balance of making sure you 460 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: have the right dudes in there to like, yeah, those pieces, 461 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 462 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 3: Like, really, I think great music is sets the tone 463 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: for the party and then you have to have the people. 464 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 4: I think women are the catalysts for a great party. 465 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: I think they make men, you know, move, you know 466 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: what I mean if you not woman anywhere. Yeah, in 467 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: our time, if you had the women and they were celebrating, 468 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: the men had no choice or they looked lame, you 469 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 470 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: And this is hard dancing. This ain't just that. This 471 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 4: is your sweating, like you are busting a. 472 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: Movie party shirt. 473 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 474 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and women man have you know, And I always 475 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: say this, they were the best promotion, you know. I 476 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 3: think we were like twenty five deep and so it 477 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: wasn't nothing ween touched. But our goal was to have 478 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: women talk about us, not just in that way, but 479 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: just in the you know, if you want to have 480 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: a good time, you gotta go. I mean even when 481 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 3: I never forget. I met my wife at Howard University's 482 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: homecoming nineteen ninety seven. Her best friend, I'm not best friend, 483 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: but her friend at the time. When she inquired about me, 484 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: said that, oh, I wouldn't make him your man, but 485 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: he's good for a good party, or he'll be good 486 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: for you know, get you into all the hot events. 487 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: I was like, no, you didn't just try to ruin 488 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: my life before it even started. 489 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 4: You know, to bear. 490 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't know where you at. 491 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 3: It's twenty four years of love and happiness too, great 492 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: function in humans. 493 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: I appreciate your high five halfway high five. 494 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: Yea, you almost killed it before it begain. 495 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, sorry, I just had to get it off 496 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 4: my chato. 497 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: You know, sometime the reputation proceeds love is love is 498 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: is love us. 499 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is how it goes. That's how it goes. 500 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 2: So you're promoting in Atlanta and obviously you're coming across everybody. 501 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: When is the turn to say, not only do I 502 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: want to have the night life, I also want to 503 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: have the music that creates the nightlife. 504 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's a great question. You guys are getting 505 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: good at this. I really applaud you and you professionalism. 506 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you know what. 507 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: I was in the parking lot of one twelve one 508 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 3: night and big shout to Dave Gates and god Rest, 509 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 3: Claude Austin Dallas Austin's brother. They used to come to 510 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: my club every week, you know what I'm saying. And 511 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: at this time they had Monica. They had y'all so 512 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: stupid they had, you know, I think illegal may have 513 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: been almost was signed but they tried to put out 514 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: Monica for the second time with Don't Take It Personal, 515 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: because I guess the first time it didn't didn't It 516 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: didn't click, and so they were like, Yo, do you 517 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: want to promote this new artist we have now? Mind you, 518 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 3: They were hiring me because of what I did on 519 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: the party scene professional wise, and I was like do 520 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: I you know what I mean? And he was like 521 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: all right, cool. So one night I'm in the one 522 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: twelve parking line. I'm promoting Don't Take It Personal, and 523 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 3: I ran into the guy that actually curated and was 524 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 3: responsible for the Black Expo and you remember the Black Expert. 525 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: I was like Coachella in the South, and so, you know, 526 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: got Monica on that thing on that you know, on 527 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 3: that little tour spot dates or whatever, and they asked 528 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 3: me to come in and run you know. 529 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 4: Street team promotions. 530 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 3: I was like, hell, yeah, you know, And so I 531 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 3: think that that kind of piqued my interests, not necessarily that. 532 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I was in love with Monica's song and 533 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 3: she was fourteen. She looked at me like a big brother. 534 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: I loved the energy I brought and how I made 535 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 3: people feel, but I didn't know what I wanted to 536 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: do in it, you know. And at the same time, 537 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: Clark Kent, who used to book all the time to 538 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: DJ he had introduced me to Dame Dash and Kareem 539 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 3: and Jay and and How'm I forget his name, Vegas 540 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: Jones Emry Jones, and so they're talking about they got 541 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: this label they're doing. Jay Z had a song called 542 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 3: twenty two Two's and they wanted me to help them, 543 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: you know, promoting the South. So I would go back 544 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 3: and forth to New York Maria Davis mad Wednesdays. I 545 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 3: was like in their mix too. So I'm doing the 546 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: rowdy Records thing with Monica, consulting with Jay and M. 547 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: And I loved what Jay and M was doing because 548 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: that's like my life, you know what I mean. So 549 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is kind of Then he came, 550 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: you know, with reasonable doubt. I had no idea that 551 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 3: when I'm going to D and D here and you 552 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: know these you feel me and so like it became like, damn, 553 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: I'm really curious. I really think I can can help 554 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: these people, you. 555 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 556 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 3: So I ended up helping Ray Ray figure out some 557 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: other markets for the street teams. 558 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 4: I held down Atlanta, and it started to grow. 559 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: Man, and everything kind of led to me starting to 560 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 3: feel myself in the space and how I can contribute more. 561 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: But it wasn't gonna happen at Roddy Records. So one 562 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: meeting at Rowdy Records, they were talking about Dallas, this, that, 563 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: and the third and I felt like Monica's popping. 564 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 4: She wasn't before me, you know. 565 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: Not realizing there was Arister Records along with Rowdy Records 566 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: pushing this. I'm thinking, I'm doing you know what I mean, 567 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I'm in a meeting 568 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: one day and it wasn't on the way I wanted 569 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: it to go. And you know, being young, I think 570 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: it was twenty one years old, was like, man, fuck 571 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: Dallas Austin. Yeah, and I'm thinking, I'm just in the 572 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: room family, I'm gonna tell my brother, fuck you if 573 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 3: I don't agree with you. 574 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I'm not thinking it's gonna call. 575 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: The shot way right. 576 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: So he wasn't at the meeting, and then I guess 577 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: whoever it was in the meeting when told him what 578 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: I said. And you know, at this point, I think 579 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: Claude had passed and he was always my champion. 580 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: Claude Austin and Dave Gates, and they knew. 581 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: How passionate I was, how hard I worked and what 582 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to do, because you know, once you find 583 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 3: out you good at something and you can't you know 584 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like. 585 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: Make money doing it on it and it's. 586 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: Legal, like you want to hold on it. It becomes 587 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 3: your passion. And I wasn't doing nothing but being passionate. 588 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: And I think if he even would tell you the story, 589 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: he would look at it too, like maybe his ego 590 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: was involved. 591 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 4: But Dave ain't like that, bru. 592 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 3: Like as soon as they got back to us that 593 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: Dallas Herd, Dave was tipping over, you know, desking fire 594 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: me mother for fuck you, like it was a whole thing. 595 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: But that also for me, and I want to shout 596 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: Dave Gas out because we didn't have father figures in 597 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 3: the business. When I came into the business, or even 598 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 3: as I grew in the business. It was people that 599 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 3: wanted to take our flavor, our ideas, our creative abilities 600 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 3: and use that not necessarily to reward us for you 601 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: feel me, not to build you up, but to take 602 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 3: for that game. Yeah, but for Dave to do that. 603 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: It allowed me not to be taint it from being fired. 604 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 3: It allowed me to know that shit he believed in me. 605 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: He now saying fire. You know, fuck dude, you know 606 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: what I mean? And you got to stand on something 607 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: and if you don't, they gonna keep you under their thumb. 608 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: And for me, that exit was the beginning to my 609 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: ascension and what I ultimately became. 610 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: So do you start studio forty three after that? After 611 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: you still you're still doing your twenty six twenty things 612 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: in the streets with the clubs and your promotion. But 613 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: now that you're you're not that routed anymore. You didn't, 614 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: you know, fuck that up. You lost your mind. You know, 615 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: you had a moment, got your ass fired. Yeah, So 616 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: where do you go from from there? 617 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 4: Man? 618 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 3: Again, great question, because I was on probation. 619 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: Were you you're still in probation. 620 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm still on the whole time. Whole time. 621 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: I had ten years probation, Okay, yeah, yeah, ten years. 622 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: They want to lock you up, they want you to 623 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: fuck up ten years probate, ten years, yeah yeah. 624 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 625 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: So I literally, I literally my mom had moved to 626 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: Atlanta at this time, and she's in three A. We're 627 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: in like two B. 628 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: She moves in building. 629 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: But my mom is like my sister. I mean you've 630 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: heard that. I'm sure like my mom was like we 631 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: grew up together. It wasn't you know. She's literally exactly 632 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: twenty years older than me, and we learned a lot together. 633 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: But anyway, she lives in like three A. We live 634 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: in two B. 635 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: And the police came looking for me about my probation. 636 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 3: This is around all the time I got fired. You know, 637 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: the Rockefellers are you know, as sending, I'm not trying 638 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: to really move to New York and be there, so 639 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: I'm trying to really figure it out. Well, Clark is 640 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: going to Motown Records, right, and he's like, yo, I 641 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: want to, you know, fuck with you, and it's gonna 642 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 3: figure out how to bring you into Motown Records. But 643 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, I got to get out of Atlanta and 644 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: get backwards. You know, extradition they can hold you up 645 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 3: to six months. 646 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: Before they take you, you know what I'm saying. 647 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: So like I got to get home, So I go 648 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: to DC and while I'm home fixing my shit, which 649 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: was ladies, gentlemen, I just want to tell you my 650 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: age through this story. I was faxing my probation sit right. 651 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: I was faxing my probation sheet to report and the 652 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: mishap is that the machine on their end was broke 653 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: and they weren't getting my facts. But how you keep 654 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 3: a fax machine for like a month and don't write 655 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: so they you feel they want. 656 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: You to go there today? 657 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: Now we didn't get it. 658 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: They want you to go to just anyway. 659 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm in d C. 660 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 3: And then Clark causes like Clark can DJ Clark kent 661 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: if I to make that specific. But he calls like, yo, 662 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: I know, I know a way to get you in 663 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: the motown. Like all right, Bett, I'm in DC. 664 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: You come in here. 665 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: He's like, yes, we're doing the Motown Talent Review something. 666 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: We're looking for artists for MOTI. I was like, say Less, 667 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: like what I need to do? You need artists or 668 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: I need the sky over the city. 669 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 4: He's like, nah, I want you to throw a party. 670 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: I was like, say Less, it's easy. 671 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: I was like, this is I was like, who's coming, 672 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: It's like one hundred race like naming the whole. 673 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: I was like say Less, now, mind you being from Washington, 674 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: d C and heavy D you know what I'm saying, 675 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 3: sampling Go Go for the first time, like Uptown Records 676 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: was the immediate playlist of my life. Everything he did 677 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: after Heavy D because he used Go Go and mister 678 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: Big Stuff had me loyal to that brand. So everything 679 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: he did and whole time, I'm not communicating that. I'm 680 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: just showing you how God shows up. You know what 681 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Because I'm going through all this probased shit. 682 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 3: I gotta go home with fear of being extra died. 683 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: I gotta you know what I mean. You call me, 684 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: you want me to do a party for Andre Horal 685 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 3: say leus, so you know, I get ready for the party. 686 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: I got a light skinned girl because he calls them 687 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: butter waves. I got I'm like, you gotta sit with 688 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: this man the entire night. I asked you to do 689 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: nothing you don't want to do. He called them butter waves. 690 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: I had dad and some Don Perry on waiting. He 691 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: gets there when door open, and the luckily is pat. 692 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: I'm not there yet though, because I was playing that 693 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: the door open. Yeah, Dre was red, you know. First 694 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: of all, d C for under Herail was like crypt. 695 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: He loved DC. 696 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: He loved the party energy, and I think he honestly 697 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: wanted to see what Clark Kent kept raving about. So 698 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: he get there, it's pat you know what I'm saying, 699 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: I'm not there yet, and he's. 700 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 4: Like, what is this slight skinned nigga? 701 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: This so never forget I came in. It was like 702 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: a scene out of like you know, Above the Rim, 703 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: when dude came in and and and Park was sitting 704 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 3: in the you know what I mean. 705 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, I walked up. I was like, how you doing, 706 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 4: mister Kenny Burns. 707 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: He was like this niggas. 708 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 3: So he's going off into this like wonderland of compliments 709 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 3: talking about d C and how I matched what he thought, 710 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying fit the bill. 711 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 4: And so he was like, oh, nigga, what do you do? 712 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: Nigga? 713 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: You had I forgot her name. I think it was 714 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: christ You had Christa Wayne, my dumb pip painted bottles 715 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: like he was. He was excited. I was like, He's like, 716 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 3: what do you do? I was like, I make it happen. 717 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,239 Speaker 3: I was like, what do you need done? You like, 718 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 3: what do you need done? 719 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: He was like, niggers got t. 720 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: He's literally like going through this like you know, admiration 721 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 3: in front of me. 722 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: Now, you know, usually people don't. They want to hold 723 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: so much. Man. 724 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 4: So he was like, get to New York on Monday morning. 725 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: You fly light skin. 726 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, well dressed, manicure does it? 727 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he went through a whole list of descriptions. 728 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 729 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 4: Get to get to New York on Monday. So the 730 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 4: party ensues. We have a great time. 731 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: He leave. 732 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: He came when it started, he left when it ended. 733 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 3: Clark calls him, like, you did it b at Motown 734 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 3: at eight am? Say, say least I was at am. 735 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 3: He didn't get there to ten. I'm in the office 736 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: like God set. 737 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: The nigga candy down yall city House. 738 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm here, I'm ready to work. What can 739 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 4: I do? He said, come on in. 740 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: We talked. 741 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 3: He asked me all these questions about you know, so, 742 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 3: of course my playbook in the industry was Monica and 743 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 3: Jay at the time. 744 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 4: So I told him what I did to contributed that 745 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 4: told him like black expert. 746 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 3: So he was like, all right, cool, he's sincere times 747 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 3: are coming in. So sincere came, he's like put them 748 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 3: in street team marketing and give him a sixty thousand 749 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: a year, now, I'd have made sixty our dollars of 750 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 3: my life to this point, you know what I mean. 751 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 4: But I never had nobody in. 752 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 3: The corporate structure say here's the check and this is 753 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 3: what you're gonna do. 754 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the. 755 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 3: Rowdy shit was really outside service. So they paid me nineteen. 756 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: I was making way more doing parties and my little 757 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: you know, my little whatever. But this was my first. 758 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: Like you was in the door, I was in the door. 759 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: It was an outside service check, you know. So I 760 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: moved as soon as I got my stuff straight. Big 761 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: shout to Bobby Joseph. He let me sleep on his 762 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 3: couch in Brooklyn for about six months. Yeah, shout out 763 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 3: to the ya. But I got in that door, bro, 764 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 3: and I went from sixty to eighty to one hundred 765 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 3: and twenty and you know, like a year and a half. 766 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 3: Everything I wanted to do he allowed me to do. 767 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 3: And I kept hitting home runs, but we as a 768 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: company couldn't hit home runs, you know. 769 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 4: What I'm saying. 770 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: Like I was making impressions based on my Motown Flavors 771 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: campaign or you know, breaking seven or two stee Low 772 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 3: and niney two Q Baltimore because I went dream t 773 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 3: market for most of the radio promotions, most of A and R. 774 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 4: So he was giving me. I was getting studio time. 775 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 4: I remember them. Do y'all remember this tank. You have 776 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 4: to remember this jay you had? 777 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 3: Do you remember them little sheets for the car service 778 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 3: and you have to fill out your seat. 779 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 4: And that man gave me a bag of them. I'm 780 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 4: riding around in car service ever everywhere in New York. 781 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: Everywhere, and then and then, so my whole experience, I remember, 782 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: I never forget this daddy os in can Coom Mexico 783 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 3: Malik Yoba White Party, Motown Presents Malik Yoba White Party. 784 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 3: And I had been running them up with my corporate 785 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: card and these mother fucking things. 786 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: And that's just gotta tell a story. 787 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 3: Because Eddie f I love you because you ain't ship 788 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: for not signed off on it. So I went and 789 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, yo, you know, I'm gonna go out 790 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 3: here and pop off, you know what I mean, Like 791 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 3: I got the corporate car, Puff's gonna be there, you 792 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 3: know all the things right, So we in there and 793 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 3: the party is the party of the weekend. I'm talking 794 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 3: about all white. Malik Yob was fresh off for whatever 795 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 3: show he had in this in this is in can 796 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 3: Coon Yeah, yeah, something in there. 797 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 4: Swipe. 798 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 3: So Bobby Joseph. I don't know if y'all remember, but 799 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 3: Bobby he was up back designing for like the Foo 800 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 3: Boos and all. 801 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: The things, and he was up so he's so that's 802 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 2: big brother. 803 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the film director, big brother. So he 804 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 3: and there swiping something going bottle for bottle. Next thing, 805 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 3: you know, we buying so much champagne. They bringing it 806 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 3: in garbage cans, garbage cans. 807 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: Well, so I'm swiping the end of the night. 808 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 3: The bill's eight thousand for me, eight thousands for Bobby. 809 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: We split the bill sixteen thousand dollars bill. Now we 810 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 3: were to talk of can COO. When I get back 811 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 3: to the office, everybody. 812 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 4: Yo, my body was crack up. Man, that buddy was crazy. 813 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 3: Eddie f came to my office like, Yo, you spent 814 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 3: eight thousand dollars at daddy Os. 815 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 816 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 4: We had a motown Malik Yoba White party. 817 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: Well did it for us? 818 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 819 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 6: For the culture. He's like you and n R talking 820 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 6: about it. They're talking about us. They're talking about Moretown. 821 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 6: That's not just me, you know. 822 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 3: So you know, make sure that Eddie if I love you, bro, 823 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 3: but he did not approve that. He did not sign 824 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 3: off on that. You had to pay it on my pocket. 825 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 3: That was my first credit lesson in like yeah, and 826 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 3: I was like eight thousand. I only make eight thousand 827 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: a month, Like you want me to pay the one 828 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 3: thing that got rint? I have things that I'm trying 829 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 3: to be legit. You're not helping Eddie. Edie helped me, 830 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I was like, Yo, don't 831 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 3: you remember me on that court getting Motown versus Bad 832 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 3: Boy High represent Don't you remember when I did it? 833 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 4: And you can't. I'm representing us for the eight thousand. Yeah. 834 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 4: I had to pay that off over time at that point. 835 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know you definitely got it like a 836 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollar a month. 837 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 3: And that's when won the money a month. Yeah you 838 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: knew school. Motherfucker's got that ax to let you pay payment. 839 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: Yeah you got me. Now you got minimum back. Then 840 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: you had to pay all full or your shit gets 841 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: cut off. Yeah. 842 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 4: It took me about six months to get that ship 843 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 4: back on, but we did it. 844 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: The dream is real. That sounds exciting. It was amazing. 845 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 3: That was ninety six seven, Yeah, right after. 846 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we went from you know, two million records. 847 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 3: I think when two million don't take a person, when 848 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 3: two men got fired, then yeah, like the rocket full thing, 849 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 3: I ain't want to move. Then I went to DC 850 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 3: because of the probation. That was all ninety six, and 851 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 3: then I met Jessica right after the motown right in 852 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: the middle of the motown thing. So yeah, ninety seven 853 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 3: was that fall ninety seven I met her? So, yeah, 854 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 3: it was ninety seven, but a year ninety seven, yeah, 855 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 3: oh yeah. 856 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 2: The nineties, the nineties yeah, oh yeah, nineties period because 857 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 2: there was. 858 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 3: No blueprint, there was no algorithm, there was no Googles. 859 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 4: You couldn't google for answers. You have to really have 860 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 4: the answers. 861 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 3: And if you did have the answers, people would amplify 862 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 3: that you knew the answers. That was the beauty of 863 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 3: the era. It wasn't just like you could get by 864 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 3: because you googled and you posted and it looked good. No, 865 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 3: you had to be him. 866 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: You have to really be him. 867 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 3: And you're talking about when gangsters were starting to come 868 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 3: into the music business. 869 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 4: There were already gangsters. That's about real gangsters. I mean, 870 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 4: you I mean you look at the stories of Jean 871 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 4: Griffin and you. 872 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: I think more so than more so than that they 873 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: were starting to come into business. I think that they 874 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: were out front. Yeah, they had never been out absolutely right, 875 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 2: because we can go back to the beginning of this 876 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 2: ship that it's been gangsters, right, but they but with 877 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 2: gangsters used to they used to you know, the curtains. 878 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: Now they were standing in front of it like no, no gangster. 879 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and we're gonna need all of that. 880 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I think Gene Griffin did that first. 881 00:40:59,480 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 882 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think that's the nineties is when that 883 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 2: really became a thing where it was like, oh yeah, 884 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: and the executive or an executive producer, like people even 885 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: know what the executive producer was honestly into the nineties, yeah. 886 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 3: Because you were going to see the artists or try 887 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 3: to see who you saw with the artists. 888 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 4: You didn't go to the credits, right, the A and 889 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 4: R is such and such executive producer, does you know? 890 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 4: You didn't even know the functions. 891 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 3: And that's one thing I'm so proud of my experience 892 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 3: and time in Motown because I learned the game. 893 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something that I want to ask you about 894 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 2: that too, because, like you said, you learned the game 895 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 2: and it's something I want to I want to spotlight 896 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 2: and highlight Andre Herrell. Yeah, man, he does not get 897 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: the credit he deserves in my opinion, in R and. 898 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 4: B facts, he brought Champagne to the game. 899 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: He absolutely brought Champagne to the game. But just the 900 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: fact of like he was a savant when it came 901 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 2: to R and B music, Like I had the pleasure, 902 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 2: through my relationship with Larry Jackson to meet him later 903 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: on and really have some conversations with him and be like, 904 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: oh shit, h the way he breaks down R and 905 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 2: B music and the way that R and B should 906 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 2: be done and the ideas that he has damn near 907 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 2: second and nothing second, Like it was special. And the 908 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 2: way that, just like you said, the way his personality 909 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 2: articulated came through, oh man, be hilarious. 910 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And the craziest thing about it. 911 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna say Andrew was the most fashioned 912 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 3: forward motherfucker, but he was probably the flyes mentally I'd 913 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 3: ever met. And because of him, I learned Boskyoch. Because 914 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 3: of him, I collect art, you know what I'm saying, 915 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 3: Like when I met him. He had an apartment on 916 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 3: the West side of New York, and we all know 917 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 3: how expensive and what that was not for black people. 918 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 3: Then he had a whole top of the apartment building 919 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 3: was his crib. He had a driver with the Rolls Royce. 920 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 3: The taste level was something that I adopted and possessed. 921 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 3: I would not be the lifestyle specialist. I would not 922 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 3: be as important to all these brands and these people 923 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 3: if not for Andre and as it adheres to music 924 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 3: without Uptown Records, sonically, I don't think Church in the 925 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: sounds that came from Church would have been magnified in 926 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 3: the way that they did. Jodosy arguably right. You know, 927 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 3: I was just listening to something that boys and men 928 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 3: were saying. They like, we came with bow ties and 929 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 3: cardigans on. These motherfuckers had on leather with bats, you 930 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 3: know what I mean, talking about they gonna get your girl, 931 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 932 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 4: But I think that there. 933 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 3: Was a exercising of freedom that came with Uptown in 934 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 3: a celebratory way. I think we've had many amazing songs 935 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 3: that celebrated life and culture, but Uptown was special, man, 936 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 3: And when people think about it, they don't think about Andre. 937 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 3: They think about the artists. But Andre, to your point 938 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 3: of his expressive nature and his passion for black people 939 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 3: in culture, right, he would explain why there's no Puff Daddy. 940 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 3: With all Andre, the confidence wouldn't be there for Puff 941 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 3: had he not got. 942 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 4: It from Dre. 943 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 3: The problem I had with all that is that no 944 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 3: one towards the end helped him with his confidence. You 945 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 3: can imagine having all the success Andre had, all the 946 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 3: amazing triumphs. I mean strictly Business was a movie and 947 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 3: a time where we weren't doing movies. New York Undercover 948 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 3: was a television show that was wildly popular for them 949 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 3: there a decade you know what I'm saying, when we 950 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 3: weren't doing that, And this was all Andre's vision and 951 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 3: what he wanted to do. 952 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 4: And for me, the end of the day. 953 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 3: For him to die not knowing he was a superhero, 954 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 3: or to not feel the love and respect for an 955 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 3: industry he gave his life to, you know it really 956 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 3: it broke my heart because I was with him the 957 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 3: last three years. 958 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 4: Of his life. 959 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't feel like he was celebrated enough. 960 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 3: No, No, and I wouldn't. I would have never done 961 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 3: business with Puff because I never really liked him, you 962 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But I never would have done 963 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 3: business with him had it not I've been for Dre 964 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 3: me signing the girl group Dream, the highest debut of 965 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 3: girl groups, only behind the Spice Girls. Ever, I'm talking 966 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 3: about Destiny's child and all the one you know what 967 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm saying. And what I heard was the free like 968 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 3: him getting his master's back. That group helped him get 969 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 3: his masks. Of course LA had something to do with that, 970 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 3: but like, I wouldn't have went to Revolt and launch 971 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 3: Revolt Television if it hadn't been for Dre, you know 972 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I look at like how he 973 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 3: ended his time here on Earth. It's heartbreaking when you 974 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 3: think you give your all to something and you're not appreciated, 975 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 3: fuck rewarded. I'm talking about the people you put in 976 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 3: the game with the people that was there for you most. 977 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 4: But I loved him man like a father. 978 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 3: And I don't think there'll be another because you know, 979 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 3: this generation, the leaders are falling short with pouring into 980 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 3: humans and teaching them about life and how to handle 981 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 3: fame and how to handle success. 982 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 4: And I don't think we do it anymore. I think 983 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 4: it's a money grab. 984 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 3: The artist is gone, and he was one of the 985 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 3: greatest artists of our time. I agree with you, artists, 986 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 3: cultural here's your brush, have at it. 987 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's just it's crazy. Man. 988 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to call out individuals, but I just 989 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 3: I'm so sadden that he doesn't even I mean, there's 990 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 3: those statues this man like he's that caliber. 991 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 2: That absolutely How long were you at Motown? 992 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 3: I was at Motown as long as it lasted with 993 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 3: his reign. I think I left six months before they 994 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 3: ousted him. He actually suggested I leave. That's how dope 995 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 3: he was. He was like, don't burn up with the ship. 996 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 3: He's like, people are at you right now, take some 997 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 3: take some meat. 998 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 2: Did you do so for real? 999 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 4: No? So for real was uptown? That was still that 1000 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 4: was Uptown? Yeah okay, yeah. 1001 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 3: But I had, you know, the pleasure to work with 1002 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 3: seven o two Terreal Hicks. 1003 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 4: Yeah real, so dope, yea. 1004 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 2: I was just mad at Kith about the collapse that 1005 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 2: they did with the Bronx Tail and they left Terrell 1006 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 2: Hicks out. 1007 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1008 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 4: Crazy. 1009 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 2: She did an amazing John I don't know, I don't know. 1010 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's what's what's what's what's old boy and kid Ronnie? 1011 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, come on, that's culture. 1012 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so mad at your hairline and the fact 1013 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,439 Speaker 3: that your hair is still good. 1014 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: I mean, something should happened to I'll show you. 1015 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 3: I can't stand you, know what I mean, And and 1016 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 3: to see you so calm. Let me can't give you 1017 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 3: all yall flyers, see you, so calm man, you go, 1018 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 3: you know, like growth is a real thing. And then 1019 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 3: doctor bas like you, thank you, thank you. Come on, 1020 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 3: it's fine, it's fine. 1021 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 4: I know, I know how to appreciate you. 1022 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it. 1023 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 3: But I appreciate the growth, man. And we've all had 1024 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 3: some real serious life conversations in our twenty plus years 1025 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 3: of friendship, and I just love the growth with all 1026 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 3: my heart. I do, man, because they are not a 1027 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 3: lot of safe places, and even though some real things 1028 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 3: are being said in these safe places, this is a 1029 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 3: safe place that you've created. And I don't want to 1030 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 3: applaud you both on your grank around and your dedication 1031 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 3: to a. 1032 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: Part of everyone's been waiting for. Yeah, you do so 1033 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: many things and part of so many ventures and businesses. 1034 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: One thing we always come back to is music that 1035 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: has shaped your life. Man, when the backdrop to every experience. 1036 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: And I know you have some favorites. I know you 1037 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 1: have a. 1038 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 7: Top fun. 1039 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: Your top five, yeah, top fin. 1040 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 7: Your top five O the Easing alad Me song. 1041 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I know. 1042 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 7: You know, I know you road, I know you should 1043 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 7: you go on and tell us. Mister Burchill top Yeah, yeah, 1044 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,240 Speaker 7: we're round top. 1045 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: Mmy Burns time. 1046 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:06,760 Speaker 3: Fun that boy right, bad doctor Babs, ladies and gentlemen. 1047 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, Skinny Burns, Yes, the lifestyle specialists. 1048 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear this. Your top five R 1049 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 1: and B singers in my hat right for this straight. 1050 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 3: You're ready, I'm ready, all right until the end of time. 1051 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 3: I'll be there for you. You own my heart and mind. 1052 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 3: I truly adore you Number one, adore by Prince. 1053 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: That's that's songs artists, Oh artists, Yeah, oh damn, I 1054 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 1: was about to get prepared your script. 1055 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 2: I love this, Yeah, I like it. 1056 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: I like the lyrical you know, I show you. 1057 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 2: I Knowren's table. Oh ship, all right, right, who are 1058 00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 2: the groove? 1059 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: And exactly? 1060 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 4: Okay, So the top five R and. 1061 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: B songs singers singer singers come on. 1062 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, here we go, Top five, R and 1063 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 3: B singers, Prince, Michael Jackson, Yeah, Luther Vandross. 1064 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 4: Why not can I say a group? 1065 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: Of course you can. Yeah. 1066 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 4: I can't get away from Joey right not? 1067 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: Who would want to? 1068 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't get away from want to do that? Huh. Yeah, 1069 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 4: I can't get Jack. 1070 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,959 Speaker 1: We'll get in there, Jagged Top. 1071 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1072 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1073 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 3: And it's it's it's you know, I can't. I can't 1074 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 3: leave New Audition, you know what I mean, just as 1075 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 3: a collective. Let's get the top ten. And I can't, 1076 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 3: you know, I can't. Christopher Williams doesn't get enough credit. 1077 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: You don't. 1078 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 2: Don't wake me? 1079 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just don't. 1080 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: And he was he was not playing the game. 1081 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 4: Yeah he wasn't. 1082 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1083 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 4: And then Pinnograss is another level. 1084 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 2: Ain't gonna miss if you're gonna mention Chris yea. 1085 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tank, you know rounds out my top. 1086 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's at thirty seven people. 1087 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: I said I was going to top because I'm in 1088 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: the top thirty seven people. 1089 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was clearly I got six members and I'm 1090 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 3: not gonna lock four and no, no, we said we 1091 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 3: said group though, and I ain't gonna lie to y'all, 1092 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna say this, this is exclusive because I 1093 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 3: definitely am against the acts that were portrayed by this man. 1094 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 3: But R Kelly Man, I miss his music. 1095 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:50,720 Speaker 1: Man, all right, your top five, your top five, Yeah, 1096 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: R and B songs. Now you can go into your 1097 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: to your love. 1098 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 2: Just flipped that for me, and it came no, no, no, 1099 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 2: I have to make it difficult. 1100 00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 4: All right. 1101 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, number one, adore, Yeah, number one. I never I 1102 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 3: got to have your face on my pillowcase. If you 1103 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 3: think that I'm the man, I'm a man of exquisite taste. Silk, 1104 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 3: I ported Egyptian lace. Nothing baby, nothing, baby can't compare nothing. 1105 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 3: Go good bad to your lovely face. Do you know 1106 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'm sorry, Yeah, Prince, I think. 1107 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: Real song right, real song right. 1108 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 5: It was unbelievable too, but a whole lot of there's 1109 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 5: a whole lot of p And he's like, that's your 1110 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 5: daddy wore heels, I said, but he had them all, 1111 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 5: had them all, and he wasn't about that life. 1112 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, get us my father, Yeah yeah, your daddy 1113 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 3: wore here. 1114 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: Number two. 1115 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 4: Top five songs of all times too. 1116 00:53:53,880 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, I think never too much, Luther Vandroids, never 1117 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 3: too much. 1118 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a stole cold jam. 1119 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 4: That's a and you know what Womack and Walmack. Baby, 1120 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 4: I'm scared of you. 1121 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 3: Like it's it's a different like that was like, baby, 1122 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm scared of you. 1123 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 4: I don't believe in man. You know what I'm saying. 1124 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 3: I believe I thought you were coming love everthless. 1125 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 2: You singing your own key a little tricky, but you. 1126 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 3: Know the number number three, number three, Man, it's walked 1127 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 3: out of Heaven think. 1128 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 4: Hmm, yeah, walked out of heaven. Special. 1129 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna put can I put jacket in? It's 1130 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 3: for number three because it's it's ever before he came. 1131 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,399 Speaker 4: It's a couple of them though. 1132 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I can't and this is 1133 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 3: blasphemous and some of the fifth member because we do 1134 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 3: this ship all the time on tour. Gotta be sorry, 1135 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm bugging we do this all the time. Yeah, it's 1136 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 3: gotta be number three. Gotta be is just I gotta 1137 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 3: be the one you you know what I'm saying. 1138 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta feel your I gotta be Yeah. 1139 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 3: So number four, this is hard, by the way, this 1140 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 3: is not as easy. 1141 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 2: This is you're watching other people do it though you 1142 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 2: be like man. 1143 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 3: I would have said, judging like them showing no grace. Yeah, 1144 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 3: for I'm gonna say tender. 1145 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,919 Speaker 1: Love by for there we go. Come on. 1146 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I rushed through that. I apologize. 1147 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 3: I don't know why or what's happening right now, because 1148 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 3: in the moment on stage, I can come with it. 1149 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: Lifestyle Specialists, we are getting ready to create your voltron 1150 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: right where we create your super R and B artists? 1151 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 1: Got it? So we got to know of all the 1152 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: artists you've ever heard to build this artist, who would 1153 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 1: you get the vocal from? Who would you get the 1154 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 1: performance style from? Who would you get the styling from? 1155 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 4: Jesus? 1156 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: Who would you get the passion of the artists from. 1157 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 1: Let's start with the vocal. Who's vocal do you want 1158 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 1: on your super R and B artist? One vocal, one vocal, 1159 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: one vocal, Prince singer, lea singer, The styling, the performance 1160 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: style on stage perform jack performance Okay, the styling, the artist, 1161 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: the drip, the drip preference, this is preference to right. 1162 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 3: Let's give it to Mary cha mm hmm, hey, j 1163 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 3: Fly Fly. 1164 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 4: From the beginning. I mean from the jerseys with the hat. 1165 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: She's been onto something since the beginning. 1166 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's been on something, yeah for sure. 1167 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 3: Passion of the artists, passion, sweating, pound over to place. 1168 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, would you do that? 1169 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1170 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: Would you do that? 1171 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 2: It would be so nice. 1172 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're so far from that place. They pull up, 1173 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: pull what do you mean what you're doing? I'm just 1174 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: on the pull up. 1175 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 3: Even turn them off, the off. Yeah, there was no delivery, 1176 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 3: like it was different. 1177 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: We got, we got, we gotta get back to that 1178 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,439 Speaker 1: road man sizing like talking to the talk. 1179 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 2: We gotta just make the records. I mean, you know, 1180 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 2: I think that that is the to me, that is 1181 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 2: the wrap up of our whole conversation today. It's more 1182 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 2: so of like she's got to do it. 1183 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah right, you know what I mean. 1184 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 2: It's one thing to talk about it. And even from 1185 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 2: okay you would say, from from tanking, not from our space. Okay, 1186 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 2: y'all do it, but then from your space, it's like, 1187 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 2: go sign it. 1188 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. I hear you 1189 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 4: loud and clear. I received that. 1190 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 3: And I even heard his comment earlier about music and 1191 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,919 Speaker 3: me loving it being the soundtrack to my lifestyle. It's 1192 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 3: just a business that has never really fulfilled me, you 1193 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 3: know what I mean. You know, even with the success 1194 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 3: I've had in it and the thoughts of you know, 1195 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 3: Uber's success, it's just, you know, it's just certain things 1196 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 3: that I can align with, you know, I put my 1197 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 3: hands on somebody. So leaving the music business probably the 1198 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 3: best thing for me, because it's just, you know, they 1199 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 3: don't play fair. There's no appreciation. That's why I honor 1200 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 3: your relationship. They're getting rid of whoever along the way, 1201 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 3: you know, like just different things. It's just not my thing. 1202 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 3: But I love music and I will bring it to 1203 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 3: R and. 1204 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 4: B money asap if I see it. 1205 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: Well, hold you to that. 1206 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, no question done. 1207 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 1: All right, we got it, We got we got one 1208 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: more thing before you. 1209 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 2: Get out of here. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, may fixties microphones. 1210 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. 1211 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 2: I ain't saying no names. 1212 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. 1213 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 7: Where you are? 1214 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 2: Who? What you did? 1215 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 1: You don't say? She say? 1216 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah Church, Yeah, yeah. This this is very very important part, 1217 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 2: a very important segment of the show. Yeah, it's important, yeah, yeah, 1218 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 2: especially for man like Kenny bar right, you know the travels. 1219 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 3: You know, you said before, I've been around the world, 1220 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 3: yes and yah yeah yeah. 1221 00:59:54,560 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 2: Literally, so this segment of the show, you tell us 1222 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 2: a story funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? 1223 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Right? 1224 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 2: The only rule to the game is you can't say 1225 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,919 Speaker 2: no names. Got it? Yeah? 1226 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah? 1227 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 4: Hold no, I got it, I got it? 1228 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 2: You got it? 1229 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1230 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 2: Okay, okay. So right now, this is Kenny Burns twenty six, 1231 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 2: twenty Studio forty three, Uncle Nearest ownership, all the labels, 1232 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 2: all the songs and dance, the Nice and Burns Show, 1233 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 2: all the cool shit. Listen he say lifestyle especially, I 1234 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 2: just say cool shit. He is the king of cool shit. 1235 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 2: To me, he been the coolest nigga forever at all times. 1236 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 2: So right now he gonna give us his I ain't 1237 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 2: saying no names. 1238 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 4: Let me get down to my seat. 1239 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, ladies, Jemmy was on the island. 1240 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,439 Speaker 4: Of capri Ah where you're going. 1241 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was working with somebody and this person you know, 1242 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 3: might be an icon or not, you know what I'm saying. 1243 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 3: But I'm on this island and you know, we're in 1244 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 3: the midst of creating you know, and I thought I 1245 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 3: was catching some energy, you know what I mean. And 1246 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 3: you know, at this time I'm not in a position 1247 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 3: to do anything about said energy. But you know, because 1248 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 3: this is such a you know, enormous figure, I'm like, 1249 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 3: damn at, please let me just see what you're talking 1250 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 3: about if it actually is what I think it is. 1251 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: You know. 1252 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 3: And so you know, we go through a couple of 1253 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 3: rounds of dinner and yachts, and you know, this is 1254 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 3: the life, you know what I mean, This is what 1255 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 3: I signed up for, you know. 1256 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 4: And you know, one. 1257 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 3: Night in the club, you know, the beautiful Island Capri, 1258 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 3: after about a week and a half of you know, 1259 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 3: just being around each other, you know what I mean, 1260 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 3: I'm dancing in the club and who comes dancing. 1261 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 4: Up on me? Yes, I'm like, this is this is 1262 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 4: not what I'm. 1263 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 3: Expecting, but kind of expecting a little bit, right, but 1264 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 3: not in public, you know what I mean. 1265 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, cool, yeah, all right, cool? Were dancing? 1266 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, oh okay, cool? All are you so 1267 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 3: might be a little more than dancing? Huh okay, all right? 1268 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 4: Cool? 1269 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 3: So about to leave the club, you know, and there 1270 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,439 Speaker 3: were two routes to go, you know, to my room 1271 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 3: or to the yacht. You know, next thing, I know, 1272 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 3: somebody's grabbing my hand and I'm like, what's going on? 1273 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 4: You know, and. 1274 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 3: It's fucked up. I couldn't really do anything about it, 1275 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I couldn't really you know, 1276 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 3: I went to my room. I didn't go to the yacht, 1277 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But I did the responsible thing, 1278 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,919 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because that's what I should 1279 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 3: have did. And I can't say anything else because it's uh, 1280 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,919 Speaker 3: what is it names? 1281 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 4: But it would have been legendary. 1282 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 3: And the and the gangster thing is is that all 1283 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 3: the fields that I thought that were coming my way, 1284 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 3: all the energy that was coming my way. I ended 1285 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 3: up leaving because of you know, I you know, I 1286 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,479 Speaker 3: couldn't do anything, and I didn't want to be there 1287 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 3: with the pressure, and so I ended up sending someone 1288 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 3: else from the company to kind of be in pocket. 1289 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 3: And I jokingly called back and was like, you know, 1290 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks later after he had been there, 1291 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 3: I was like, yo, with life scanning that, you know 1292 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And he's like like, chill, Like what 1293 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 3: you're talking about? 1294 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 2: Chill? 1295 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 3: Like what's yet I gotta check on the movie. He's like, well, 1296 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 3: now you said that, like you kind of I was like, 1297 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 3: you know what's going on? 1298 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 4: Relax, you know what I mean. 1299 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 3: He's like, well, look, we've been kind of talking to 1300 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 3: each other over the last two weeks and. 1301 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 2: Talk about my girl like that. 1302 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly. 1303 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 1: No pet names. Actually you don't. Yeah, don't don't go 1304 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 1: the cold my girl, you know, because you saved the coke. 1305 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you little cold out there. 1306 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 1: You got with you yea. 1307 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 4: So he ended up dating and getting engaged. 1308 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmmm and you and you're still on your morals 1309 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 1: and still on. 1310 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 4: The morals man, you know, I was becoming a family man. 1311 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you abstained mine my mind. 1312 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely sustained and helped myself down. And that was 1313 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 3: a notch kind of joint. That would have been just 1314 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 3: something you did, you know, put that on the wall. 1315 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. 1316 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: But I was in you upstate. I believe you. 1317 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 2: I kind of believe you. 1318 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: I look up pre. 1319 01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 2: Line it up. 1320 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: I kind of believe put that on the ground about you. 1321 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 3: That that would that, you know, in any other circumstance 1322 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 3: or situation, that would have definitely been yeah one on 1323 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 3: the belt. 1324 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 1: Wow, but we we know that. You know, uh Burns, 1325 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 1: you are not short of opportunity, but you are more. 1326 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 2: Full of morality. 1327 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, some things have to stay in play. And you 1328 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 4: are a gentleman. 1329 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,479 Speaker 3: Know you know your boundary. Flirt like a motherfucker, don't fuck. 1330 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah you like that? Okay? Is that? Is that the 1331 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 1: past that. 1332 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 3: You can flirting as long as certain parameters and you 1333 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 3: go home. You flirt, but don't be fucking Yeah, you 1334 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 3: can flirt, but don't fuck. 1335 01:05:54,920 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Uh man? You are you are? I mean you home. 1336 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 1: It's like it's like, you know, trying to close it 1337 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: out is weird, but it's like, you know, we love 1338 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: your brother. Man, that's never gonna change. We got your back, man. 1339 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 1: We appreciate all that is you. We're here for everything 1340 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 1: it is you. You know we are we are, We 1341 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: are a phone call away. You don't even ask us, 1342 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 1: just tell us where it is. You know what I'm saying. 1343 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: And your contributions they're still needed as we speak about this. 1344 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 1: You know, this space, which you know you've expressed, is 1345 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,440 Speaker 1: it just you know, from a from a mental space, 1346 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: it just it doesn't serve you well, you know what 1347 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean, like there's still a there's still that voice, 1348 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: and there's still that representation of what you represent that's 1349 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 1: still in some way, shape or form needed and what 1350 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 1: we do, you know what I mean, and even even 1351 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 1: into help it helping us do what we do. Like 1352 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 1: that input and that wisdom. You can't keep that all 1353 01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 1: to yourself. 1354 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 3: Brother, I appreciate them here for it. You know, we 1355 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 3: have our conversations. Yeah, if you never need anything, you 1356 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 3: know what I mean, as it adheres to the label 1357 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 3: and you already know personally, but I would love to 1358 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 3: support your movement because it's amazing and you're making some 1359 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:19,640 Speaker 3: great quality, sustainable, inspirational legacy written music and I love it. 1360 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 4: So I'm probat of you both. 1361 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 1: And there it is, Ladies, your money is tank. This 1362 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 1: is the R and B Money podcast. The authority yeah 1363 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 1: on all things R and B and we have just 1364 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: talked through the authority on so many things. Man, you 1365 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 1: are a blessed brother, gifted brother in all facets of 1366 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: life than flirt. Don't fuck, Ladies and gentlemen, k R 1367 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 1: and B Money. 1368 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 2: R and B Money is a production of the Black 1369 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,439 Speaker 2: Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit 1370 01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to 1371 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 2: your favorite shows. 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