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Speaker 2: Oh welcome in What a Sanguine Day, Episode one seventy four.
Speaker 2: Today is a special day on a lot of fronts.
Speaker 2: Today is the six year anniversary of the television show.
Speaker 2: Just getting to six years on is not to sound
Speaker 2: like a jerk, but an amazing accomplishment. I remember standing
Speaker 2: on Chris Carter's balcony in Los Angeles right before the
Speaker 2: show launched, before we moved to New York, and sang
Speaker 2: to him like, man, I hope we can do this
Speaker 2: for seven or eight years and see what's what? And
Speaker 2: I remember Chris a, man, that's a long that's a
Speaker 2: hell of a you know, runway you're talking about and
Speaker 2: six years, more than fifteen hundred shows and the show's
Speaker 2: doing better than ever. Today is also an exciting day
Speaker 2: because it's my favorite podcast we do all year, where
Speaker 2: we lay out our full NFL gambling season long picks. Thursday,
Speaker 2: we will be back with our gambling show, the full
Speaker 2: Gambling Show, and talk Chiefs Lions. Thursday. Also Demands is
Speaker 2: coming back, which brings up the her sweet part of this.
Speaker 2: It means today is Diora's last show, Woo, and so
Speaker 2: she goes to college in nine days a week from Thursday,
Speaker 2: and so we are dealing with that from an emotional
Speaker 2: level and we will talk more about that at the
Speaker 2: end of the show. Also for the audience, while you
Speaker 2: feel free to ask whatever questions you would like in
Speaker 2: the chat, if season long gambling related, whatever you want.
Speaker 2: If you would like to give Diora some first year
Speaker 2: of college advice, that also would be welcome in the
Speaker 2: chat and we can get those later on. I think
Speaker 2: that would be nice coming from people that aren't me
Speaker 2: or your mother or family their feelings, especially because she's
Speaker 2: going as you can see from the sweatshirt to UC
Speaker 2: Santa Cruz all the way across the country. So before
Speaker 2: we get to any of that stuff, though, we have
Speaker 2: to tell you what missed, and then we will get
Speaker 2: into our gamble portion of the show. What missed the
Speaker 2: cut is Cooper cup seeing a specialist for his hamstring
Speaker 2: team USA losing to Lithuania yesterday, but they blew out
Speaker 2: Italy to advance of the semifinals just moments ago, and
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers trolling modern medicine at the US Open Novak
Speaker 2: he crossed out Maderna and wrote Novak Djokovic, which all
Speaker 2: again would make so much more sense if he wasn't
Speaker 2: drawing his paychecks from Woody Johnson, the heir to the
Speaker 2: Johnson and Johnson fortune, which is the I mean, the
Speaker 2: scions of Big Pharma. But I'm not gonna let any
Speaker 2: of that bring me down like we did last year.
Speaker 2: And Diora, you weren't here for it. But last year
Speaker 2: we made folks a good deal of money. It was
Speaker 2: like an eighteen percent ROI on their investment, and it
Speaker 2: was almost like a four hundred percent ROI on their
Speaker 2: investment because we gave them a fifty to one chiefs
Speaker 2: Niners exact a super Bowl before the year, and then
Speaker 2: brock Perty's elbow exploded in the NFC Championship game, and
Speaker 2: it came up just short. It was still winners. The
Speaker 2: way I'm gonna set this up, we will give you
Speaker 2: the team win totals, we will give you the division winners,
Speaker 2: we will give you the make miss playoffs, and we
Speaker 2: will give you a super Bowl matchup. Assume all of
Speaker 2: these wagers are one unit wagers normalized for a plus
Speaker 2: or minus. So if you're a one hundred dollars better
Speaker 2: and it's a minus one forty, we're betting one forty
Speaker 2: to win one hundred. If it's a plus number, we're
Speaker 2: betting one hundred to win whatever that number is. We
Speaker 2: on this, so whatever, all of these assume they're one
Speaker 2: unit bets unless otherwise stated, and we will track them
Speaker 2: throughout the year. I don't know how long this first
Speaker 2: second is going to go, because for the team win totals, DIORA,
Speaker 2: what'd you say, more.
Speaker 3: Than half the show?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna go quite some time. I would imagine
Speaker 2: that is true. I probably shouldn't have to say this
Speaker 2: to you on your last show on the thing, but
Speaker 2: feel free to speak up. Mike's a little far away
Speaker 2: I'm boisterous. I don't want you to be Oh, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I don't want your voice to
Speaker 2: be dominated by mine. But we are going to go
Speaker 2: through all thirty two teams. We are starting DIORA with
Speaker 2: the teams. I am not betting, and I'll give you
Speaker 2: a quick thought on each team. Why And it's really
Speaker 2: just alphabetical order. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: The Cardinals four point five.
Speaker 2: All right, I would be on the under there. I
Speaker 2: feel like they're gonna be the worst team in the league.
Speaker 2: They want to be the worst team in the league.
Speaker 2: But the juice is on the under, and it feels
Speaker 2: like such a square bet, and they are such an
Speaker 2: incompetent franchise historically. Maybe the new regime isn't gonna be that.
Speaker 2: They feel like maybe could screw this up. If I
Speaker 2: was gonna bet either side, it would be the under,
Speaker 2: but we're not betting it. Next.
Speaker 3: Okay, the Bill's ten point five.
Speaker 2: That's the perfect line. I think this is gonna be
Speaker 2: an eleven win team. I obviously could see them being
Speaker 2: a ten win team. They've won thirteen two of the
Speaker 2: last three years. I think they're gonna come down a
Speaker 2: bit from that. But that line's exactly right, and if
Speaker 2: a line is exactly right, you have no obligation to
Speaker 2: bet it, so we're leaving it there.
Speaker 3: Next Broncos eight point five.
Speaker 2: Alright, This feels like an under. I believe it's an under, however,
Speaker 2: because they could miss the playoffs and hit the over
Speaker 2: at nine and eight, and maybe there is some Sean
Speaker 2: Payton magic, we're staying away from it.
Speaker 3: Next the Lion's nine point five.
Speaker 2: That line's exactly right. This is a nine or ten
Speaker 2: win team, so we're staying away from it. That line
Speaker 2: is perfect.
Speaker 3: Next Texan six point five.
Speaker 2: All right. I like the under. I think they could
Speaker 2: be one of the three worst teams in the league.
Speaker 2: But the possibility that Demico Ryans has a Brian Daboll
Speaker 2: type of impact new team, massive one year turnaround. They
Speaker 2: love will and Anderson, and that division is sawt for staying
Speaker 2: away from it.
Speaker 3: Next the Raiders six point five.
Speaker 2: All right. Believe it or not. I think that is
Speaker 2: a pretty clear over. This team blew three seventeen point
Speaker 2: leads last year and still won six or seven games.
Speaker 2: They had seven games with seven plus point leads and
Speaker 2: they still were right around this number last year. However,
Speaker 2: so the overs the bet, but I am never betting
Speaker 2: and over on a Josh McDaniel's Jimmy g Coach quarterback combos.
Speaker 2: So we're staying away.
Speaker 3: Next the Chargers nine point five.
Speaker 2: That's the perfect number as a nine or ten win team,
Speaker 2: so we're staying away from it.
Speaker 3: Next Vikings eight point five.
Speaker 2: That is a massive regression from last year's thirteen wins.
Speaker 2: Feels like if you had to bet that it would
Speaker 2: be an over a slight over, but you don't have
Speaker 2: to bet it, so we're staying away from it.
Speaker 3: Next Saints nine point five.
Speaker 2: All right, I like the under a lot there, but
Speaker 2: the under is juiced all the way to minus one
Speaker 2: forty plus. If I'm wrong about Atlanta, somebody's gotta win
Speaker 2: that division. The Bucks might end up trading Mike Evans.
Speaker 2: The Panthers are not gonna be good. Brian Burns is
Speaker 2: holding in, and so the Saints. It's just a little
Speaker 2: too much juice on the under. We're staying away.
Speaker 3: Next Giant seven point five.
Speaker 2: In that division, that's the perfect number. They're gonna let
Speaker 2: uh Daniel Jones do more this year. That probably will
Speaker 2: hurt them because of some of the strengths of the team,
Speaker 2: and dable. I still think they are you know, they're
Speaker 2: not gonna have some horrible season that to stay away.
Speaker 2: Uh And in fact, I'll just tell you the last
Speaker 2: three in this category. Bucks six and a half, Tight
Speaker 2: and seven and a half, Commanders six and a half,
Speaker 2: those are all to me just stay aways. Those are
Speaker 2: teams the variants too much. The line is just about right.
Speaker 2: We're staying away from all of these all right now,
Speaker 2: we're too a category where these are all teams. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you right now. I like the under on, but
Speaker 2: not enough to actually bet it. What's the first one
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 3: Era the Colts six point five.
Speaker 2: I like the under, the juice is only minus one
Speaker 2: oh four. Fading the Colts feels like smart business, but
Speaker 2: maybe Anthony Richardson by mid season has developed enough that
Speaker 2: the raw talent takes over. It to a soft division.
Speaker 2: I thought about including it, we're staying away from it.
Speaker 3: Next six point five.
Speaker 2: I love the under, but two games against the Cardinals
Speaker 2: scares me a bit. If Stafford's hell the all year,
Speaker 2: maybe Sean McVeigh wills them to somewhat respectability. And the
Speaker 2: juice being one thirty four just too much. I thought
Speaker 2: about including that in the bets, but because if it
Speaker 2: was minus one oh five one oh five, I'd probably
Speaker 2: bet it minus won thirty five, I can't, but I
Speaker 2: trend to the under there. I trend to the under
Speaker 2: on this entire category, all right.
Speaker 3: Next the Bengals eleven point five.
Speaker 2: All right, I I like the under. I don't see
Speaker 2: why this team would win twelve games. I know they
Speaker 2: did last year. I understand, but I feel like the
Speaker 2: division is tougher Burrow mistraining camp. Again. It's a brutal schedule.
Speaker 2: But the juice on the under is one forty four,
Speaker 2: so we're staying away from it.
Speaker 3: Next, the Brown's nine point five.
Speaker 2: This is such an obvious I'm gonna regret not betting this.
Speaker 2: This is such which an obvious under, even at minus
Speaker 2: won thirty five juice. I don't mind it. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: mind it. I and I know this sounds dumb. If this,
Speaker 2: if this total was eight point five, I think I'd
Speaker 2: bet the under. Nine point five seems like such a trap,
Speaker 2: such a free money it. You know what, I want
Speaker 2: to include it. You know, I'll get the Browns in elsewhere,
Speaker 2: the Browns under nine and the fact that the Browns
Speaker 2: could go nine to eight, which would be the second
Speaker 2: best year they've had in twenty years, and the under
Speaker 2: would still pay just seems like a trap. So I
Speaker 2: guess I'm staying away from it. Next.
Speaker 3: Okay, the Panthers seven point five.
Speaker 2: The under there is minus one twenty. I can't see
Speaker 2: a reason that this Panthers team would win eight games.
Speaker 2: I like the under, not quite an enough to bet it,
Speaker 2: and I want to root for Bryce Young, even though
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge believer because of his size. The
Speaker 2: Brian Burns thing is scary, that is, it is such
Speaker 2: a soft division. But they were right. You know, they
Speaker 2: were in the playoff race last year despite horrific quarterback play.
Speaker 2: So we're staying away from it.
Speaker 3: Next, the Ravens ten point five.
Speaker 2: I like the under there. I have the Ravens missing
Speaker 2: the playoffs, but I don't feel quite strongly enough about
Speaker 2: it to bet it. The AFC is really tough. I
Speaker 2: think they're a nine win team, but we're staying away
Speaker 2: now to bets. Theoretically I would love, but there's better
Speaker 2: ways to make these bets. What's first?
Speaker 3: You era the Steelers eight point five.
Speaker 2: The over for the Steelers is minus one point fifty.
Speaker 2: I love the Steelers to keep Mike Tomlin streak alive
Speaker 2: of winning nine plus games, but rather than laying juice
Speaker 2: on the over, there is a better way to make
Speaker 2: that bet. More on that in a moment.
Speaker 3: Next, Okay, the Dolphins nine point five.
Speaker 2: Similar situation. Rather than bet the Dolphins to win nine,
Speaker 2: to win ten games and lay some juice, we can
Speaker 2: get plus odds on something that I believe is gonna happen.
Speaker 2: So if you like the Dolphins, there is a better
Speaker 2: bet to make than them to hit their season over.
Speaker 3: Next the Packer's seven point five, and.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna include in there the Falcons eight point five
Speaker 2: with juice of one minus one fifty and minus one
Speaker 2: thirty two respectively. I like both of those overs, but
Speaker 2: once again, there is a better way to make those
Speaker 2: bets if you believe in the Packers and you believe
Speaker 2: in the Falcons, where there are a little riskier bets,
Speaker 2: but the return is so much better. More on them
Speaker 2: in a moment when we get to our division winners
Speaker 2: and our make miss the playoffs category. And then one more.
Speaker 3: The Jets nine point five.
Speaker 2: All right, the under on that is dead even money
Speaker 2: plus one hundred. I love this bet, but there is
Speaker 2: actually a far better bet to make on that on
Speaker 2: the Jets going under ten wins, and I'll explain why
Speaker 2: when we get there. So that leaves us Diura with
Speaker 2: eight actual bets. These eight bets are five overs, three unders.
Speaker 2: We will start with and Diura for this one. For say,
Speaker 2: if I'm going over or under, you'll see it with
Speaker 2: the letter next to the number. The first bet we're
Speaker 2: making is what Diura.
Speaker 3: The Bear seven point five under.
Speaker 2: Under plus one hundred. Why would the Bears win eight games?
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, Oh, they spent all this money this offseason.
Speaker 2: I hope so. They had the worst record in the
Speaker 2: league last year. The offensive line, even though they've invested
Speaker 2: in it, has now dealt with some injuries. That defense
Speaker 2: is going to be a train wreck. They could have
Speaker 2: an awesome season where you feel great about justin fields
Speaker 2: and still hit the under. Seven to ten for the
Speaker 2: Bears would be a massive success. Plus, I don't think
Speaker 2: there are any gimmes in that entire division. Well, I
Speaker 2: don't think there's any great teams in that division. Every
Speaker 2: other team in that division knows if we're gonna have
Speaker 2: a good season. We've got to beat up the Bears.
Speaker 2: I know the schedule's not that tough, but they could
Speaker 2: triple their win total and hit their under. We like
Speaker 2: the Bears under seven point five next to you era.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the Cowboys over nine point five.
Speaker 2: So the Cowboys over nine point five is minus one six.
Speaker 2: That's I apologize to the to the viewers, and to
Speaker 2: the producers. I should have let them know that's not
Speaker 2: the actual bet we're making. Instead, we are going to
Speaker 2: up the win total by one game, the Cowboys over
Speaker 2: ten point five, and instead of getting laying minus one sixty,
Speaker 2: we're gonna get plus money at plus one fifteen. Now, obviously,
Speaker 2: if the Cowboys go ten and seven, we've screwed ourselves here.
Speaker 2: I believe the Cowboys are going to win twelve or
Speaker 2: thirteen games. I would be shocked if they don't win
Speaker 2: eleven games, and if they have the season from hell.
Speaker 2: They probably missed the the nine and a half over
Speaker 2: as well as the ten and a half over. So
Speaker 2: we instead of going Cowboys over nine and a half,
Speaker 2: we are going Cowboys over ten and a half at
Speaker 2: plus one fifteen. And we are doing something similar with
Speaker 2: the next team deorra. What's the what, what's the next team?
Speaker 2: What's the number? And then what's the number? We're actually going.
Speaker 3: With Jags over nine point five, but we're gonna do
Speaker 3: Jags over ten point.
Speaker 2: Five exactly right, So the Jags over nine point five,
Speaker 2: you have to lay minus one forty four. Why would
Speaker 2: I do that when the Jags are gonna win twelve games.
Speaker 2: I would rather do the Jags over ten point five
Speaker 2: and get plus one forty five. So instead of having
Speaker 2: to risk fourteen hundred dollars to win one thousand, I
Speaker 2: can win risk one thousand to win fourteen hundred. Again,
Speaker 2: if they go exactly ten and seven, obviously, that screws you.
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. This Jags team is gonna have
Speaker 2: a top five offense in the worst division in football.
Speaker 2: They are winning twelve games. They are going to be
Speaker 2: the two seed. The Jags over ten and a half next.
Speaker 3: Okay, the next over eleven point five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's minus one thirty five, don't care. They win
Speaker 2: twelve games every single year. Literally, No, I believe you.
Speaker 3: I'm not like I'm not doubting.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, uh. Since Patrick Mahomes has gotten there, the
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs win totals have been twelve twelve, fourteen,
Speaker 2: twelve fourteen. Okay, I'm not trying to I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to lecture you. I understand sure it is. This is
Speaker 2: a square bet. This is the highest total on the
Speaker 2: board with the most juice on it, and I'm going
Speaker 2: over set the line higher Vegas. It's a seventeen game season.
Speaker 2: Find me six losses for the Kansaity Chiefs. You can't
Speaker 2: never doubt there. Oh thank you, Diora. Yes, absolutely, Also
Speaker 2: the audience. I don't know if the audience can see,
Speaker 2: but yours sporting a tattoo as well, done totally without
Speaker 2: my consenter for mission. You do that the sidebar in
Speaker 2: the middle of the gambling picks amazing parenting moment. So
Speaker 2: I had had a long rule, which is, if you
Speaker 2: get a tattoo, it means you're a full blown adult,
Speaker 2: which means you're totally financially independent. And I held your
Speaker 2: brother to that standard. He hid his tattoo from me
Speaker 2: as long as he could, and when he showed it,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I guess you're on your own
Speaker 2: and now it's the I'm not gonna act like I've
Speaker 2: never helped your brother out. Since then there's a period
Speaker 2: of time he's like, yep, on my own, no problem
Speaker 2: Dojora was getting this tattoo and face timed her brother and.
Speaker 3: You guys should have seen his face.
Speaker 2: Well, he was like walk him through. Yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 2: walk him through it.
Speaker 3: So I waited to tell Demons because I told DEMONSI
Speaker 3: I wanted to get a tattoo, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you could try, you could try. And then I called
Speaker 3: him in the middle, like as soon as I laid
Speaker 3: down to get my tattoo, he was like, you've got
Speaker 3: to be kidding me. This is fake. I was like,
Speaker 3: it's not fake, and he was like, okay, interesting. Interesting,
Speaker 3: And at first he didn't think that I was there.
Speaker 2: He thought that she was doing it behind my back.
Speaker 3: Was like yo, yo man. And then I turned the
Speaker 3: camera and I think he got even.
Speaker 2: More of oh his face when he saw I was there.
Speaker 2: I think he's still mad about it, which I don't
Speaker 2: really blame him for.
Speaker 3: And he goes when I saw him this weekend, yeah,
Speaker 3: he was like because I said something about I was like,
Speaker 3: I can pay for lunch and he goes, yeah, because
Speaker 3: you're an adult now you have a tattoo. Now, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think he can pay for everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean he just said he goes man
Speaker 2: that younger child privilege, the and the no.
Speaker 3: But the thing is with my tattoo. I had the
Speaker 3: same idea for the tattoo for like what like two months,
Speaker 3: like I wanted to get.
Speaker 2: If not longer. Yeah, I mean you've been talking about it.
Speaker 2: And the idea was you were going to get the stars.
Speaker 2: Your mom was gonna get the sun, and I was
Speaker 2: gonna get the moon. But your mom has not found
Speaker 2: a sun that she loves. I was going to haphazardly
Speaker 2: get a moon. Yeah, go ahead, No, go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, go ahead, You're good.
Speaker 2: No, I the and then at the tattoo shit parlor,
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I'm not gonna you know, if
Speaker 2: I'm deciding on what it's gonna look like right now,
Speaker 2: I probably should wait. And I've wanted never a doubt
Speaker 2: on my arm for the last six months. So yeah,
Speaker 2: So Door and I we don't yet have matching tattoos,
Speaker 2: but we got them together, all right. Sorry, back to
Speaker 2: the over unders all right? Next?
Speaker 3: Right, yep, go ahead, Patriots over seven point five.
Speaker 2: With plus money. Why would the Patriots be worse than
Speaker 2: last year. The Patriots won eight games last year, guys,
Speaker 2: and while I don't believe in Mac Jones and I
Speaker 2: obviously don't think they're a great team, they won eight
Speaker 2: last year. I get plus money on them to just
Speaker 2: duplicate that Mac will not be as bad as he
Speaker 2: was last year, the offense won't be as disorganized. They
Speaker 2: lost a game on the most ridiculous playing NFL history,
Speaker 2: the Chandler Jones play. I just I can't believe it,
Speaker 2: but I like the Patriots over, and I'm getting plus money.
Speaker 2: This Patriots line being off is indicative of how overhyped
Speaker 2: the Jets are. Because the Patriots have beaten the Jets
Speaker 2: fifteen straight times, Vegas thinks the Jets are gonna be
Speaker 2: really good. So the two games against the Jets, pardon me,
Speaker 2: where the Patriots always go too and oher, Vegas thinks
Speaker 2: they're gonna go zero to two or at best one
Speaker 2: and one, so it's docking their win total. I like
Speaker 2: the Patriots over next.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the Eagles under eleven point five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta lay minus eight, but we love this bet.
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles will be good, but not great.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have a bit of a Super
Speaker 2: Bowl hangover. I think the excellent quarterbacks they face, Sorry,
Speaker 2: we have a fly around here that is bothering us.
Speaker 2: The excellent quarterbacks they face is gonna be able to
Speaker 2: that secondary can get got. We like the Eagles to
Speaker 2: win ten or eleven this year. We like them under
Speaker 2: one twenty eight all right?
Speaker 3: Next, okay, next the Eagle oops' final forty nine ers
Speaker 3: under ten point five?
Speaker 2: All right, at plus one p thirty two. We're fading
Speaker 2: the Niners this year. As much as we liked the
Speaker 2: Niners last year, I think brock Purdy was more illusion
Speaker 2: than reality. Plus, he's coming off elbow surgery. They were
Speaker 2: talking about him being on a pitch count. Seems like
Speaker 2: Shanahan desperately wants to find a way to get Sam
Speaker 2: Darnold in the game. The Nick Bosas situation is a
Speaker 2: legit concern. All of those are reasons we think the Niners.
Speaker 2: This could be a bit of a year from hell
Speaker 2: for the Niners. Certainly not eleven or twelve wins. And
Speaker 2: we're getting plus money the Niners under ten and a half,
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 3: Next, okay, the Seahawks over eight point five This.
Speaker 2: Is one of the only bets we're doubling down on.
Speaker 2: We're not putting two units on it. All eight of
Speaker 2: these bets are one unit bets. But we're gonna also
Speaker 2: bet the Seahawks in another way. I don't mind laying
Speaker 2: the minus one forty on this. The Seahawks last year.
Speaker 2: I don't think what Gino did was an illusion. They
Speaker 2: played more rookies than any team in the conference. They
Speaker 2: had rookies starting tackles, they had rookies across their defense,
Speaker 2: and they still made the playoffs. Why would this Seattle
Speaker 2: team not win eleven games? Why would this Seattle team
Speaker 2: not win the division? Which takes us to our division
Speaker 2: winners in a moment. But the quick recap, there are
Speaker 2: eight actual bets we made for team t totals. Bears
Speaker 2: under seven and a half at even money, the Cowboys
Speaker 2: over ten and a half at plus one fifteen, the
Speaker 2: Jags over ten and a half at plus one forty five,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs over eleven and a half at minus one
Speaker 2: thirty four, the Patriots over seven and a half at
Speaker 2: plus one sixteen, the Eagles under eleven and a half
Speaker 2: at minus one twenty eight, the forty nine Ers under
Speaker 2: ten and a half at plus one thirty two and
Speaker 2: the Seahawks over eight and a half at minus one
Speaker 2: forty two. And so here is here are our division
Speaker 2: winner bets. DIORA tell us the first one and the
Speaker 2: plus number behind it. And yes, to the producers, what
Speaker 2: you just put in the chat? That is correct? Go
Speaker 2: ahead give it to me.
Speaker 3: Dolphins plus two ninety.
Speaker 2: Yep, stealing, No, no, we'll stay just one by one. I
Speaker 2: think the Dolphins. Remember how we said rather than bet
Speaker 2: the Dolphins over nine and a half and lay a
Speaker 2: big bet the Dolphins to win the division and get
Speaker 2: nearly three to one. So for these next three divisional bets,
Speaker 2: if we win one of them, we break even. If
Speaker 2: we win two of them, we win big. If we
Speaker 2: win all three, it's a massive, massive victory obviously. So
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, if Tua is healthy, they absolutely can win
Speaker 2: twelve games. That's enough to win the AFC East this year.
Speaker 2: The Dolphins plus two ninety. Now to one of our
Speaker 2: more long shot picks. What's the next one to you?
Speaker 3: Ere Steelers plus four sev.
Speaker 2: Getting nearly five to one on the Steelers to win
Speaker 2: the AFC North if I'm correct, And the Bengals are
Speaker 2: not gonna win twelve or thirteen games, and the Ravens
Speaker 2: are gonna stumble a bit. The Steelers, which won nine
Speaker 2: games last year with TJ. Watt missing seven with Kenny
Speaker 2: Pickett as a rookie. If Pickett, even if he's not great,
Speaker 2: and not only he's great, has any type of year
Speaker 2: two jump and what is healthy with Tomlin, the Steelers
Speaker 2: absolutely can win the AFC North. We're getting plus four seventy.
Speaker 2: So instead of betting the Steelers to win at least
Speaker 2: nine games and laying minus one p fifty, why not
Speaker 2: bet them to win eleven games essentially and the division
Speaker 2: at plus four seventy. We like that. And now our
Speaker 2: next semi long shot divisional bet.
Speaker 3: The Packers plus three fifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Packers, if you think Love's gonna be fine,
Speaker 2: They're gonna have a good running game, They're gonna have
Speaker 2: a good defense, those young receivers, but you know, kind
Speaker 2: of pop unless you believe Detroit or Minnesota are gonna
Speaker 2: be awesome, and I don't believe I think they'll be fine.
Speaker 2: I don't think either will be awesome. I could bet
Speaker 2: the Packers to win at least eight games. At minus
Speaker 2: one fifty or the Packers to win nine or ten games,
Speaker 2: ten will probably be enough to win the division and
Speaker 2: get them at plus three fifty. So again, Dolphins plus
Speaker 2: two ninety Steelers plus four seventy Packers plus three fifty.
Speaker 2: If I'm right on one of those, you break even
Speaker 2: or win a little bit. If I'm right on two
Speaker 2: of them, big win. Now we have two more, and
Speaker 2: these are a similar thing where I'm looking at them
Speaker 2: as a pair. If I'm right on just one of these,
Speaker 2: next two, you make a little bit. If I'm right
Speaker 2: on both, you make a lot. Obviously, if I go, oh,
Speaker 2: for you're in trouble next one, do you are.
Speaker 3: A Foulkes plus two ten.
Speaker 2: I think they're the best team in the NFC South.
Speaker 2: I think b John Robinson is going to instantly be
Speaker 2: one of the most dynamic offensive players in the league.
Speaker 2: Drake London had an underrated, awesome rookie season. He had
Speaker 2: as good of a rookie seasons as almost as good
Speaker 2: of a rookie season, I should say, as Garrett Wilson
Speaker 2: with just as poor quarterback play. The Dolphins indoors B
Speaker 2: John Robinson, Drake London, Kyle Pitts. If Ritter has a pulse,
Speaker 2: they're the favorites to me in that division. We're getting
Speaker 2: them plus two ten. And the last one I said,
Speaker 2: I was doubling down on the Seahawks.
Speaker 3: T youra the Seahawks plus two thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we like the I think the Seahawks win that
Speaker 2: division and the I think I would. I am very
Speaker 2: confident the Seahawks are at least five hundred. I am
Speaker 2: pretty confident the Niners will regress. Both of those things happened.
Speaker 2: The Seahawks win ten or eleven games, they win the
Speaker 2: and now our first two unit bet is the next one.
Speaker 2: And like any smart gambler, our biggest bet is gonna
Speaker 2: be a parlay Deora. What is it? Jags Chiefs Jags
Speaker 2: Chiefs Division winner parlay plus one fifty six. The Chiefs
Speaker 2: have won the AFC West seven years in a row.
Speaker 2: The Jags are about to win the AFC South for
Speaker 2: the next seven years. We get the two guys that
Speaker 2: will be considered the two best quarterbacks in football at
Speaker 2: the end of the year. They both have to win
Speaker 2: the two softer divisions in the AFC. We get them
Speaker 2: at plus money. This is a two unit bet. And
Speaker 2: this next one is a quarter unit bet. This is
Speaker 2: a long shot division winner parlay, which is why we
Speaker 2: are only doing a quarter unit on it. Diora, what
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 3: Steelers Dolphins, Packers plus.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, do your We're almost gonna take a
Speaker 2: break in a moment.
Speaker 3: Go ahead nine nine hundred and.
Speaker 2: Three ninety nine to one on the Steelers Dolphins, Packers
Speaker 2: winning their divisions ninety nine to one. So again, if
Speaker 2: you're one hundred dollars better and you want to put
Speaker 2: a quarter unit on it, one hundred dollars would pay
Speaker 2: out twenty four to seven. I'm sorry, twenty five dollars,
Speaker 2: which would be a quarter unit would pay out twenty
Speaker 2: four to seventy five. So that is out. And honestly,
Speaker 2: on a ninety nine to one shot, you probably shouldn't
Speaker 2: even do a quarter unit. You should do like a
Speaker 2: tenth of a unit. But we're gonna do a quarter unit.
Speaker 2: We're gonna put two hundred and fifty dollars on it
Speaker 2: to try to bank them for twenty five thousand. Now
Speaker 2: make miss playoffs. These are all one unit wagers.
Speaker 3: Diora, Chiefs, Cowboys, and Jaggs make plus one sixty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that should be a thing unit bet.
Speaker 2: You know what where this is a good way to
Speaker 2: triple down on the Prince and mahomes that it's a
Speaker 2: two unit bet. So we've got we are heavily invested
Speaker 2: in the Jags and the Chiefs this year Big Shaker America.
Speaker 2: We've bet them both for the season overs. We bet
Speaker 2: them in a parlay to win their division, and we
Speaker 2: bet them along with the Cowboys, to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: This is a little hedge I guess against somehow one
Speaker 2: of them not winning the division that now they just
Speaker 2: have to make the playoffs as a wild card. You
Speaker 2: add the Cowboys, you get them at plus one sixty,
Speaker 2: all right, next to Aura. This is also a two
Speaker 2: unit bet.
Speaker 3: The Jets miss plus one ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so remember how I said there's a better way
Speaker 2: rather than betting the Jets under nine and a half
Speaker 2: at plus one hundred. Why would you not bet the
Speaker 2: Jets to miss the playoffs at plus one ten? Because
Speaker 2: think about it, the Jets. Is there any scenario where
Speaker 2: the Jets underhits and they make the playoffs? Can you
Speaker 2: make the playoffs this year in the AFC at nine
Speaker 2: to eight? No chance? But is there a scenario where
Speaker 2: they're over hits and they missed the playoffs. Absolutely, could
Speaker 2: they go ten and seven and miss the playoffs? Yes,
Speaker 2: So rather than bet under nine and a half, why
Speaker 2: don't you bet them to miss the playoffs. You get
Speaker 2: slightly better odds plus one ten instead of plus one hundred,
Speaker 2: and you could theoretically still win even with if they
Speaker 2: go ten and seven. So to recap the make miss playoffs, Chiefs, Cowboys,
Speaker 2: Jags parlayed plus one sixty for two units, the Jets
Speaker 2: miss the playoffs plus one ten for two units. Oh
Speaker 2: and then a little quarter unit, a little teaser, a
Speaker 2: little taster quarter unit. Guy, these three teams to miss
Speaker 2: the playoffs, go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, Browns, Jets and Lions miss plus seven and fifty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we're just gonna call this the cursed franchise parlay.
Speaker 2: These trendy teams everybody loves who just happened to double
Speaker 2: as the three most incompetent franchises in the last forty
Speaker 2: years of the NFL and certainly the last thirty years
Speaker 2: the Browns Jet Now again, I think the Lions make
Speaker 2: the playoffs. For the record, simply, I think the Lions
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. That's why I'm only putting a quarter
Speaker 2: unit on it. But there is so much hype around
Speaker 2: the three worst franchises in NFL history that the odds,
Speaker 2: the fact that we're getting plus seven point fifty on
Speaker 2: these three teams missing the playoffs seems crazy to me.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna do that. And now diora our and
Speaker 2: as always, even though these are super long shots, we
Speaker 2: are putting one full unit on both of these. This
Speaker 2: obviously can make it far more difficult to eke out
Speaker 2: a profit on our season long bets, but it also
Speaker 2: gives us a chance to bink massive wins. What is
Speaker 2: our Super Bowl matchup?
Speaker 3: Chiefs Cowboys plus thirty to fifty.
Speaker 2: Thirty to one on a Chiefs Cowboys Super Bowl exactly.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are going to go undefeated, so that one's obvious.
Speaker 2: I really like the Cowboys this year. As we've discussed
Speaker 2: on the show especially, it's almost a process of elimination.
Speaker 2: Pick in that I don't believe in that I don't
Speaker 2: believe in party, and I think the Eagles regress a bit.
Speaker 2: We get thirty to one on the Chiefs Cowboys and
Speaker 2: then the exact Super Bowl, and you can bet both
Speaker 2: of these anywhere you want the exact super Bowl?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 3: Dour Chiefs over Cowboy Boys plus five thousand, fifty to one.
Speaker 2: Last year we had the Chiefs Niners at fifty to one,
Speaker 2: and then the Chiefs over Niners at eighty to one.
Speaker 2: We now have the Chiefs over the Cowboys at fifty
Speaker 2: to one as our super Bowl exacted. There it is.
Speaker 2: We did that in forty minutes. Do youra? You almost
Speaker 2: coughed up along, But aside from that, it was spectacular.
Speaker 2: There is our NFL gambling preview. I can't believe we
Speaker 2: are two days away. We get into my weekend of
Speaker 2: high stakes gambling, my breaking news on Chris Jones, a
Speaker 2: little Caleb Williams, and some tennis all next, before we
Speaker 2: get to your guys, questions and advice for Diora on
Speaker 2: her last show. It's all next, quick break, right back,
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Speaker 3: Realize when you have a co host, that means that
Speaker 3: you're both co hosts.
Speaker 2: I disagree with that. I've heard that before. I disagree
Speaker 2: with you'd like saying I'm the co host.
Speaker 3: And we're co hosts.
Speaker 2: No, I'm the host.
Speaker 3: If there's a host there's only one person, it's co hosts.
Speaker 3: If there's two people, which means we are both co hosts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I disagree.
Speaker 3: The dictator and our subject, that was great.
Speaker 2: That was one of our best moments. Welcome back in
Speaker 2: It's Doora's last show, episode one seventy four. If you
Speaker 2: guys have any questions about our NFL gambling preview, which
Speaker 2: we just did, you can put them in the chat. Also,
Speaker 2: any advice for dioras she gets ready to go off
Speaker 2: to college. You can put that in the chat as well.
Speaker 2: But Deora, what are we starting to b block with today?
Speaker 3: Let's hit on your other gambling escapades. Yeah, we went
Speaker 3: down in Texas this weekend.
Speaker 2: Well did you so? Phil home Youth has won seventeen
Speaker 2: World Series of Poker Bracelet's. He's the most decorated tournament
Speaker 2: poker player ever. He's the guy that I went to
Speaker 2: Vegas four a couple of years ago to play that
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars heads up match that he beat me in.
Speaker 2: And I am proud to say, Doorra that Listen, it
Speaker 2: wasn't heads up against Phil. It was a ring game.
Speaker 2: It was a multiple days at Champions Club in Texas,
Speaker 2: which is in Houston, awesome card room. And I do
Speaker 2: more self with him. Let me show you a tweet
Speaker 2: because you foolishly didn't ask for your typical five percent
Speaker 2: for the weekend. Yes I did? When was that?
Speaker 3: Yes? I did?
Speaker 2: When did you ask for five percent.
Speaker 3: When you told me that you were going on the trip.
Speaker 2: Well, why don't you read what Phil helm Youth said
Speaker 2: about my because I sent out a tweet about Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: Why don't you read what Phil helm.
Speaker 3: Youth tweeted, great analysis, Nick, I guess it's back to
Speaker 3: your day job after winning sixty thousand playing poker with
Speaker 3: us on stream and offstream this weekend in Houston at
Speaker 3: the Champions Club Texas. Love this storyline. Good guy Nick
Speaker 3: wins big hashtag positivity.
Speaker 2: He hashtags all the suits of positivity. So what was
Speaker 2: your big takeaway from that tweet? Because you didn't really
Speaker 2: emphasize that I get money from well, how much did
Speaker 2: it say? I won two thousand?
Speaker 3: All right, so don't make me do math.
Speaker 2: Let's just see. Let's see, let's see, maybe you'll get
Speaker 2: it if you go quick.
Speaker 3: That is trauma.
Speaker 2: That's what do you mean? This is trauma? Come on, five?
Speaker 2: What's ten times? What's this? Is this trigger from when
Speaker 2: three thousand they fed that to you? They do fed
Speaker 2: that to Doora. She did not listen the the This
Speaker 2: is a great moment because Doora, when she was little,
Speaker 2: when we would do math together.
Speaker 3: I would cry, well like almost every single time because
Speaker 3: he'd snap in my face and be like you should.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be in your face, shouldn't like just go just go,
Speaker 2: just go, just have it be automatic, have it be
Speaker 2: automatic and she wouldn't let me do math with her.
Speaker 3: That almost made tears come out of my eyes just now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I banned him from doing math with me in high school.
Speaker 3: I told him that he couldn't do it with me anymore.
Speaker 3: I the very upset about it.
Speaker 2: And then I saw, you want to know something funny,
Speaker 2: because that's what I did from the time you were
Speaker 2: in like fifth grade on and then you did stop.
Speaker 2: Then there was this movie called Whiplash that came out
Speaker 2: after this with JK. Simmons, and it's about some very
Speaker 2: demanding musical teacher. I haven't seen it, but in the
Speaker 2: preview for it, you know what he's doing to the
Speaker 2: person who's trying to teach to play the instrument river go, Go,
Speaker 2: Go go, and I'm like, there you go. Now, I
Speaker 2: think the story of that was he was like, like,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of over the top and his intensity
Speaker 2: or whatever. But I mean, I don't know. Uh So
Speaker 2: it was a great weekend, is the back to the Poker?
Speaker 2: I Andrew looked him, well, I don't you know, well,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to. I don't think he asked for it.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was it.
Speaker 3: Is I did see what we'll talk.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, Phil, it was a great game. Ryan Feldman,
Speaker 2: the guy who runs Hustler Casino Live, was in the game.
Speaker 2: He added great action. This this guy named trick Time,
Speaker 2: who's like a professional player from Texas, was phenomenal. He
Speaker 2: made one of the greatest value bets on me I ever,
Speaker 2: and I'll tweet out some of the clips of it.
Speaker 2: You can go to Poker Goes Twitter because it was
Speaker 2: all live streamed. Also, if you want to watch all
Speaker 2: ten hours of the game Saturday and Sunday, that's on
Speaker 2: there now. To be clear, I didn't win anything close
Speaker 2: to sixty in the live streamed games. I lost ten
Speaker 2: the first day and won twenty ish the second day.
Speaker 2: But in between those there was a late night PLO
Speaker 2: game that played really big that I bought in for
Speaker 2: for just a little bit and ran it up huge, huge,
Speaker 2: which speaks to what you know Phil's comment about how
Speaker 2: much money I made. Phil wasn't playing in the PLO game,
Speaker 2: but it was a ton of fun. Oh and one
Speaker 2: of the best players, in my opinion, in the entire world,
Speaker 2: a guy named Andrew Lichtenberg who goes by Lucky Chewie,
Speaker 2: who has won fifteen million playing poker or Lichtenberger or
Speaker 2: pardon me, who was honest to God? And you're gonna
Speaker 2: lae gosh, your is gonna laugh at me? Uh, I
Speaker 2: like this is I'm gonna laugh saying this myself because
Speaker 2: I'm just setting myself up to be mocked by you.
Speaker 2: But guys watching this podcast, especially guys my age, will
Speaker 2: understand it is rare as a grown man to make
Speaker 2: a new friend, Like it's hard to like make friends,
Speaker 2: like you work with people, you have your wife, you
Speaker 2: have your kids, whatever it is. I feel like I
Speaker 2: actually made a new friend in Lucky Chewey. I knew
Speaker 2: you were gonna make fun of me, but he was.
Speaker 2: His reputation in the poker community is he is one
Speaker 2: of the kindest human beings in the world. He wrote
Speaker 2: a great book called The u Yoga of Poker about
Speaker 2: kind of combining the the concepts of yoga and mindfulness
Speaker 2: and meditation into poker. He's also one of the most
Speaker 2: brilliant people I've ever had the pleasure to spend time around.
Speaker 2: And we talked poker and poker strategy and kind of
Speaker 2: life all week, and so it was a great It
Speaker 2: was great winning the money obviously was you know, a
Speaker 2: cherry on top. But the Champions Club down there in
Speaker 2: Texas was great. Spending time with Phil was a ton
Speaker 2: of fun. I now don't have each other Me and
Speaker 2: Helm Youth. Yeah, we hugged when we saw each other.
Speaker 2: We're buddies, but it was the last time I saw Phil.
Speaker 2: Was like one of the worst moments of my life.
Speaker 2: Losing that heads up match because I should have won it,
Speaker 2: and I think I played really well, and particularly in
Speaker 2: the plo games, which is the game I'm better at,
Speaker 2: and I was really happy with it. And I also
Speaker 2: shout out to Brent Hanks and Jeff Platt who were
Speaker 2: doing the commentary and did a brilliant job, as they
Speaker 2: always do. Again, it's worth watching the live streams. And
Speaker 2: Lucky Chewy and his business partner Victoria, who is a
Speaker 2: very interessing life story this. She's from Ukraine, was a
Speaker 2: chess champion, built a tech company, sold it and now
Speaker 2: she and Chewy and others. I'm not sure if I'm
Speaker 2: SUPs to say who else is involved. They're building a
Speaker 2: poker company called Octopi Poker that I hope to be
Speaker 2: continue to be involved with in some capacity. It was great,
Speaker 2: and so shout out to all those people. Shout out
Speaker 2: to me for playing with some of the best in
Speaker 2: the world and booking a win. Very happy about it,
Speaker 2: and I hope to be back there again. Maybe we
Speaker 2: do the podcast live from the card room down there
Speaker 2: one time. That'd be fun. I mean, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: in college.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna let me do the podcast when I
Speaker 3: come back for breaks?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Of course when it's not football season. Football season's too.
Speaker 3: Important, really, so during the summer, spring.
Speaker 2: Break, spring break in the summer, all right, next.
Speaker 3: So Chris Jones is still holding out the Lions QB
Speaker 3: Jared goff Off, Yeah, is one. Statistically it's written poorly.
Speaker 2: Is one of the best in the game with a
Speaker 2: clean pocket. Go ahead?
Speaker 3: If the Lions win, who will have more regret the
Speaker 3: Chiefs not caving to Chris Jones? Are you forgetting your tattoo?
Speaker 2: All right? Do you are? How much do I have
Speaker 2: any doubt about the Chiefs beating the Lions?
Speaker 3: Never a doubt?
Speaker 2: Did I ever have any doubt? Of course not. They're
Speaker 2: gonna be Listen Patrick Mahomes in week one as a starter,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs average thirty eight points. He is eighteen touchdowns,
Speaker 2: zero picks. They win the games by an average of
Speaker 2: like seventeen. I'm not worried about Week one, Week two.
Speaker 2: I love Jacksonville. That defense cannot slow down the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about them in week two. And Week
Speaker 2: three is Chicago, so the Chiefs have some time here.
Speaker 2: But I broke some news yesterday about the Chris Jones situation.
Speaker 2: It's very simple. Chris Jones wants a two year extension
Speaker 2: fully guaranteed for sixty four million dollars. That's thirty two
Speaker 2: million a year. That's a New Money average of thirty
Speaker 2: two million. Obviously, that's more than Aaron Donald's thirty one
Speaker 2: point seven. The Chiefs have offered him a two year
Speaker 2: extension at just under fifty five million dollars. It's twenty
Speaker 2: seven and a quarter million per year fully guaranteed. That
Speaker 2: is of a New Money average of twenty seven and
Speaker 2: a quarter million dollars. Quinnin Williams's deal is twenty four
Speaker 2: million a year. Jeffrey Simmons deal twenty three and a
Speaker 2: half million a year. Now, my friend Mike Florio is
Speaker 2: He is my friend. I've known Mike for since I
Speaker 2: did radio in Kansas City. He is reporting the same thing,
Speaker 2: but has a very different perspective on it. What Mike
Speaker 2: is doing is Mike is taking those two year extensions,
Speaker 2: be it fifty four million or sixty four million, adding
Speaker 2: them to the year he had has left on his deal,
Speaker 2: and averaging it out from there. And he's doing it
Speaker 2: because Aaron Donald, when he got his deal, the RAMS
Speaker 2: ripped up the end of his deal and gave him
Speaker 2: a totally new deal. I don't I don't think that
Speaker 2: is typically how these new deals are calculated. So I
Speaker 2: will give you an example. Quinn Williams, when he got
Speaker 2: his new deal, it was four years, ninety six million dollars.
Speaker 2: That's an average of twenty four million dollars a year.
Speaker 2: That is exactly what was reported, twenty four million dollars
Speaker 2: a year. However, he had a year left on his
Speaker 2: contract that was going to pay him ten million bucks.
Speaker 2: So if you add those two together, I'm sorry, twelve
Speaker 2: million bucks. Instead of being a four year, ninety the
Speaker 2: six million dollar deal, it's a five year, one hundred
Speaker 2: and eight million dollar deal, And that then of course
Speaker 2: changes the math. That then, instead of being an average
Speaker 2: of twenty four million a year, it's an average. What's
Speaker 2: one toweight divided by five? Do you era twenty one
Speaker 2: point eight? It's an average of twenty one point eight
Speaker 2: million a year. So if you want to talk new
Speaker 2: money average or total average that I'm not really trying
Speaker 2: to have that semantic debate. What I know is the
Speaker 2: Chiefs have offered two years fifty four and a half
Speaker 2: million fully guaranteed. Chris wants two years sixty four million
Speaker 2: fully guaranteed, and the sides don't seem like they're moving
Speaker 2: and it's obviously a problem for Kansas City. Now do
Speaker 2: I think it submarines their chances of winning the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Of course, not, because there's no chance Chris misses the
Speaker 2: whole year, but he is, It would appear gonna miss
Speaker 2: week one, and maybe he does stay out till week seven.
Speaker 2: Now do I think the Chiefs can go seven to
Speaker 2: zero without Chris Jones? Yes? Do I think they can
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl without him? I don't know, but
Speaker 2: they wouldn't have to. But if they don't get an
Speaker 2: extension done, then the relationship is probably ruined moving I
Speaker 2: don't want to say ruined, but at least damaged moving forward.
Speaker 2: And that's obviously problematic. So this isn't I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: act like this is great, everything's all sunny. But that's
Speaker 2: the details on it. That's where we're at with the
Speaker 2: Chiefs and Chris Jones. You have a follow up question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, preseason Super Bowl tattoos never pan out? Did you
Speaker 3: jinx the Chiefs by getting your tattoo?
Speaker 2: And jinks aren't I don't know about that, But Jinkses
Speaker 2: aren't real.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So like all right, I'm not gonna argue with
Speaker 2: you about jinx is it's nonsense, it's mysticism. I'm not
Speaker 2: doing it. But there's never a Doubt, guys. And this
Speaker 2: is going to go down as an all time legendary
Speaker 2: sports media moment when the Chiefs win the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: and I have the video of me and our season
Speaker 2: picks show on television showing before the year the never
Speaker 2: a Doubt tattoo on national television now, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be totally honest with you, guys, because we unveiled the
Speaker 2: never a Doubt to go along with the twenty and
Speaker 2: oh pick. As long as they win the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: this tattoo was correct, is it? Am? I am I
Speaker 2: guaranteeing twenty and oh yes, but am I extra guaranteeing
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl? That's what it is?
Speaker 3: What so like the sports gods are real?
Speaker 2: But Jinxes exactly right. I'm sorry, I believe in God. Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 2: I believe in God. Sorry, that's insane. I know you
Speaker 2: gen zers you know? Oh my, I mean you probably
Speaker 2: make fun of me for that. Yeah, I believe in
Speaker 2: a higher power.
Speaker 3: I don't believe you think that sports gods is the
Speaker 3: one that's up there.
Speaker 2: Well, what, God's not allowed to have an interest in sports.
Speaker 2: He's not allowed to, you know what I mean, have
Speaker 2: these busy He's you know, all knowing, all powerful being.
Speaker 2: I would imagine, you know what I mean, I mean
Speaker 2: he created Patrick Mahomes. I would imagine he has a
Speaker 2: vested interest in his success.
Speaker 3: Like if the sports gods are real? You know, does
Speaker 3: it help that you were wearing a Bengals shirt while
Speaker 3: you were getting your time?
Speaker 2: I was not wearing a Bengals shirt, don't I was
Speaker 2: wearing a Kenzo shirt. Don't you dare call that a
Speaker 2: Bengal shirt.
Speaker 3: The sports cause might get confused.
Speaker 2: Guy, listen, They're infallible, all right.
Speaker 3: Next Okay, So deon Santer's debut Sanders, is that not
Speaker 3: what I just said?
Speaker 2: I thought I wasn't sure. I thought you said Sanders,
Speaker 2: but I'm not sure. Go ahead?
Speaker 3: He didn't think I said Sanders.
Speaker 2: Go ahead?
Speaker 3: Correct if you couldn't have gone better? That as Colorado
Speaker 3: beat TCU.
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 3: Is it Dion the biggest story in college sports in
Speaker 3: the last decade? Or is it something?
Speaker 2: All right? These guys are trying to bait me into
Speaker 2: saying Caleb's a bigger story than Dion, because I kind
Speaker 2: of saw I did a soft opening like a restaurant
Speaker 2: for that take for Gabe and Matt yesterday. I I
Speaker 2: want to talk about these two things separately and then
Speaker 2: we can quickly move on because the show's going really long,
Speaker 2: and I gotta go on Coward Show today, and I
Speaker 2: gotta do the TV show, the debut of Mahomes Mountain
Speaker 2: on television, and it's a six year anniversary. A lot
Speaker 2: going on. Dion Sanders has a chance, if he continues
Speaker 2: this trajectory, to have the greatest American sports life ever.
Speaker 2: So this is what's fun. Diora is one of you know,
Speaker 2: the only person involved in this podcast who who as
Speaker 2: from a viewer or a worker perspective, doesn't know the
Speaker 2: story of Dion Sanders, So I'm going to be able
Speaker 2: to watch the amazement grow as she goes on. Okay,
Speaker 2: Deon Sanders diora in the eighties, one of the greatest
Speaker 2: high school football players ever, goes to Florida State. Is
Speaker 2: the greatest college defensive back to ever play. Is then
Speaker 2: part of a draft that now goes down in history
Speaker 2: as the greatest top five picks in NFL history. The
Speaker 2: number one pick was Troy Aikman. He won three Super Bowls.
Speaker 2: He's a Hall of Famer. Number two pick, Tony Manders
Speaker 2: didn't work out. The number three pick Barry Sanders. A
Speaker 2: lot of people consider him the greatest running back ever.
Speaker 2: The number four pick Derek Thomas, the greatest Chiefs defensive
Speaker 2: player ever. Hall of Famer, died in a car wreck
Speaker 2: during his career, but still one of the greatest players ever,
Speaker 2: even though his careers cut short. The number five pick,
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders. Dion was the first guy who had like
Speaker 2: a televised draft party, wearing hundreds of This is again
Speaker 2: in the eighties, wearing hundreds of thousands of dollars worth
Speaker 2: of gold chains, saying basically, I'm gonna go where the
Speaker 2: money goes. Comes into the league, Diora is instantly the
Speaker 2: best defensive player in the entire sport. Some would argue
Speaker 2: he's the best defensive player in the history of the sport.
Speaker 2: Everyone acknowledges he's the best corner in the history of
Speaker 2: the sport. While doing that, he also occasionally played wide receiver,
Speaker 2: so he played offense and defense. Was the only guy
Speaker 2: in the league doing it. While doing that, also returned
Speaker 2: kicks and punts, and many people consider him the greatest
Speaker 2: kick and punt returner ever. He then went from the
Speaker 2: Falcons to the forty nine Ers, helped them get over
Speaker 2: the top and win the Super Bowl because the Cowboys
Speaker 2: had won the previous two. He then went from the
Speaker 2: Niners to the Cowboys, and the Cowboys won that Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: While doing all this, he played professional baseball, played in
Speaker 2: the World Series, played pro baseball for ten years. Was
Speaker 2: awesome at that as his side job. One day he
Speaker 2: played in an NFL game and a Major League Baseball
Speaker 2: game in the same day. He then retires, gets into coaching,
Speaker 2: goes to Jackson State, historically black college. Your mom and
Speaker 2: I went to the big game at a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago, instantly makes them the best team in their conference.
Speaker 2: They go undefeated in back to back years in the conference.
Speaker 2: Jackson State, historically, Black college has never gotten the top recruits.
Speaker 2: They go to the biggest schools or whatever. The number
Speaker 2: one player in the country was a defensive back that
Speaker 2: wanted to go to Florida State. Because of Dion, Dion
Speaker 2: convinced him instead of going to Florida State to go
Speaker 2: to Jackson State with him. Dion then left Jackson State
Speaker 2: for Colorado. Colorado won one game last year. They were
Speaker 2: twenty one point underdogs. Dion's sun is the quarterback there.
Speaker 2: They just played TCU and beat them as twenty point dogs. TCU. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: while Colorado won one game last year, TCU was in
Speaker 2: the National Championship Game. So if Dion has a great
Speaker 2: coaching career and he goes from all time legendary college player,
Speaker 2: all time legendary pro one of the goats in the
Speaker 2: entire sport, the goat cornerback, maybe the goat defensive player,
Speaker 2: the goat to sport athlete, and then also adds great
Speaker 2: coach to it, it's the greatest sporting life ever with
Speaker 2: all that said, the best story in college football this
Speaker 2: weekend was the USC quarterback Kile Williams. He was doing
Speaker 2: a Patrick Mahomes impersonation. I called him one of the
Speaker 2: five best quarterbacks alive, and he might I might have
Speaker 2: underrated him. Douora was at the tailgate for that game.
Speaker 2: If she would have told me ahead of time, I
Speaker 2: would have bought her a ticket to go to the game, because.
Speaker 3: They told me he had two tickets and I didn't even.
Speaker 2: Use real Oh my goodness. You could have seen Caleb
Speaker 2: Womans put on a show, all right, last one door?
Speaker 3: Okay, so you Dann and I stopped by the US
Speaker 3: Open last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah with Mark Carmon. Shout out Mark Carmon. Hgo Chicago.
Speaker 3: The highlight of the trip is you were turned into
Speaker 3: a meme.
Speaker 2: Yeah the US Open shouting me out, go ahead.
Speaker 3: What's your favorite story of the tournament? Coco the American
Speaker 3: Man or Djokovic.
Speaker 2: Okrez, Good job Djokovic, alcarez is you weren't a collision course?
Speaker 2: I'm super excited for it. Also, that clip was so
Speaker 2: hilarious because.
Speaker 3: My part is I was cropped out.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean it is. DOORA was two rows
Speaker 2: ahead of us in the front row, and so she's
Speaker 2: not on there. But the funniest part about that was
Speaker 2: I mid match between Rude and Jeng live bet Jang,
Speaker 2: my entire section was rooting for Rude, which is why
Speaker 2: I'm the only person standing and clapping after that point.
Speaker 2: But uh, the American men succeeding the way they are.
Speaker 2: The fact that there are four black Americans on the
Speaker 2: men and women's side this deep into the US Open
Speaker 2: for the first time ever is unbelievable. Uh, with TFO
Speaker 2: and Coco and Madison Keys one other that I'm forgetting.
Speaker 2: My apologies, but Djokovic Alcarez is the story of the
Speaker 2: tournament and if that's the I just wish the US
Speaker 2: Open would move their schedule back one week because the
Speaker 2: men's final being on the first NFL Sunday of the
Speaker 2: year is ludicrous. Thank you. I can't go to it,
Speaker 2: no like I. It gets no coverage, none of it.
Speaker 2: By the Also, by the way, the Spanish women's soccer
Speaker 2: coach Jorge Vilda Vita pardon me, just fired. The producers
Speaker 2: are putting that in the rundown they win the World Cup,
Speaker 2: they fired the coach. They got that controversy going on there.
Speaker 2: All right, coming up next, we say goodbye to my daughter.
Speaker 2: It's next we'll try There is the best barbecue in
Speaker 2: the world in Kansas City.
Speaker 3: Some people would disagree with you on that one, on
Speaker 3: what the best barbecue in the world.
Speaker 2: Okay, well they're wrong. Kansas City is known for barbie.
Speaker 3: Texas is known for their barbecue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's in Texas Barbecue and its dry rubs
Speaker 2: and their obsession with brisket. It's just not even close.
Speaker 3: It's kind of a general consensus that Texas has the
Speaker 3: best barbecue, and.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that that is nonsense.
Speaker 3: Number one is Texas according to what do Youora? Second
Speaker 3: is Memphis.
Speaker 2: According to what doorad.
Speaker 3: Is Kansas City, Missouri.
Speaker 2: According to what do Youora? Google? That was great. That
Speaker 2: was also or the same show that we had the
Speaker 2: host co host debate. That was your liveliest show. That's
Speaker 2: when you were really into it. You're kind of over
Speaker 2: the podcast.
Speaker 3: Find that whole podcast. We barely talked about sports.
Speaker 2: I know that was your favorite one. That was the
Speaker 2: one you liked the most. All right, before I get
Speaker 2: to the the you know, the questions and comments on
Speaker 2: Dor's last show, how have you enjoyed the experience it's been.
Speaker 2: It's been good, better than you thought, better than I thought. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because in the beginning you weren't really you were skeptical
Speaker 2: of doing it, and then you opted into doing it.
Speaker 2: I well, I'll save my thoughts for the end. Uh.
Speaker 2: The So the advice for Gabe asks how have I
Speaker 2: not seen Whiplash? I know I should have seen Whiplash,
Speaker 2: especially because I'm in a movie with JK. Simmons, the
Speaker 2: movie that JK. Simmons is a college football coach. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm you know, I'm one of the main
Speaker 2: components of that movie. Hyve also asked if Diora has
Speaker 2: seen pulp fiction and did it play a role in
Speaker 2: her college choice.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the movie say.
Speaker 2: The answer is no and no. This is why this
Speaker 2: is Remember that picture was in their bookstore there that
Speaker 2: that you see Santa Cruz Bana slug shirt. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: it's an iconic picture and it kind of put them
Speaker 2: on the Yeah, it's also some people would consider it
Speaker 2: the greatest movie you ever made. Doesn't matter, Steve Gianotti
Speaker 2: says Gianata, pardon me, do not take morning classes. Talk
Speaker 2: waking up at like eight for classes.
Speaker 3: Don't you My earliest class is at ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Your earliest class is at ten thirty, and you're on
Speaker 2: the West coast, which means like you're not gonna be
Speaker 2: up most days till like noon East coast time, right
Speaker 2: like around nine am. That's right. Jacob Epstein says. Best
Speaker 2: advice is that everybody is correct when they say the
Speaker 2: four years fly by. If you're ever on the fence
Speaker 2: about doing something, just do it. Yes, get involved, get involved,
Speaker 2: Get involved, in involved. Sale Kier says, first year of college,
Speaker 2: it's so easy to just fail because of a failure
Speaker 2: of scheduling. Do the full week to week schedule to
Speaker 2: prep for mid terms, finals and also get in study time.
Speaker 2: What's your biggest concern on the academic side as far
Speaker 2: as like scheduling stuff out and doing things just getting.
Speaker 3: From class to class because it's a huge camp.
Speaker 2: It is a sprawling campus and you have to take
Speaker 2: like buses everywhere all of it. But what's the shortest
Speaker 2: window between classes that you have like minutes? Yeah, so
Speaker 2: you it's such a big campus that you could have
Speaker 2: twenty minutes between classes and have it not be enough time.
Speaker 2: Raymond Syrus says, do you want to get involved in
Speaker 2: everything you want to in college? Time to find yourself
Speaker 2: and have fun. Cole Draper says, good luck. Best advice
Speaker 2: I can give you wish someone had told me, is
Speaker 2: prioritize your mental health, especially when you're figuring out your workload. Cole,
Speaker 2: why agree? I wish that was advice that was given
Speaker 2: a long time ago. I promise you, UH, This younger
Speaker 2: generation UH for for good, for almost all for good,
Speaker 2: and a little bit for bad. They do not have
Speaker 2: a They have no qualms about uh needing you know,
Speaker 2: rest and recuperation time and prioritizing their mental health. It's
Speaker 2: probably one of the smarter things, uh that gen Z
Speaker 2: has figured out better than the rest of us. Henry Bean,
Speaker 2: this is great, says, Get comfortable being uncomfortable. One of
Speaker 2: the best ways to grow. Just put yourself in new
Speaker 2: and sometimes uncomfortable situations. I think your is excellent at that. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then this is the most important one, Ben Thomas.
Speaker 2: Call your parents even when you don't want to call them.
Speaker 2: It's more for them than for you. Well you are
Speaker 2: you and I have already talked about this. We're gonna
Speaker 2: talk every day once a day we don't have a text.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be a call.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be a FaceTime, it doesn't have
Speaker 2: to be it has I have to hear your voice.
Speaker 2: I have to hear your voice every day, obviously. And
Speaker 2: it's just like a twenty minute, twenty minutes, just like
Speaker 2: a twenty minute are you saying? What do you mean?
Speaker 3: What are you talking to you for twenty minutes?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? It sounds wonderful. I'm not. This
Speaker 2: is all right. I'll give my thoughts here in just
Speaker 2: a moment. But the Blue Duck folks, I believe, have
Speaker 2: something that Jake is going to bring to you. They
Speaker 2: have a little farewell gift for you. And so if
Speaker 2: Jake can or if we can give this to Diora,
Speaker 2: there you go. Jake doesn't want to be on camera.
Speaker 2: There's Jake. Hi, Jake. Uh. They've got what is it?
Speaker 2: What is it? Scoot Bakery cookies.
Speaker 3: Oh. I also got a Starbucks gift card, oh wow?
Speaker 3: And a barbecue gift card.
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Very team here, very nice of the Blue
Speaker 2: Duck folks. All right, in all seriousness, you have done
Speaker 2: a wonderful job, not just on the pod, but in
Speaker 2: everything preparing for this stage and I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna cry on the air. I'm just very proud
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: We're all just very very proud of you. And I'm
Speaker 2: gonna miss you so much. I'm not gonna cry. I
Speaker 2: was gonna save that for when we move in. I
Speaker 2: just love you and these last six months, being able
Speaker 2: to share this stage with you and being able to
Speaker 2: spend this time with you is just such a wonderful gift.
Speaker 2: And I really really love you, baby. I'm so proud
Speaker 2: of you. And your mom's sister here is. We're gonna
Speaker 2: do a group hug and we will. I'll see you
Speaker 2: guys on Coward Show today and then six your anniversary
Speaker 2: show today on television. We love you, Scoot, come here,
Speaker 2: Daan Poo and your brother's hugging you know via via
Speaker 2: far Away Love you. See you guys next week or
Speaker 2: see you Thursday for the Gambling Show
Speaker 3: Show