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Speaker 1: Think sideways. I don't interesting, you've never known stories of

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Speaker 1: things we simply don't know the answer to. Hey, everybody's

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Speaker 1: thinking Sideways the podcast. I'm Devin, joined as always by

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Speaker 1: and Steve, and we're going to do a group show

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Speaker 1: again this week. We do these every once in a while,

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Speaker 1: not not too frequently. We don't want to bore you

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Speaker 1: do our group shows on a theme, and this week

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Speaker 1: our theme is time travel. Don't worry, it won't be

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Speaker 1: the only episode we ever do on time travel. Calm down,

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Speaker 1: but we've been getting a lot of time travel requests

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Speaker 1: and I can hear you hyperventilating. But we all have

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Speaker 1: stories that we really liked that we thought maybe didn't

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Speaker 1: make up an entire episode. So we're just gonna each

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Speaker 1: Let's do it? Okay. Oh and before we get too

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Speaker 1: far into this, we always like to say big shout

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Speaker 1: out to this listener for suggesting this, but literally all

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Speaker 1: So if you suggested it, congratulations your a suggestor for

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Speaker 1: the Team Sideways Time Travel group show. Special Travaganza. That's

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Speaker 1: what we're calling this one, right, travel Travaganza. No, I know,

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Speaker 1: it was a longer name than not to try and

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Speaker 1: time travel, time travel paloza, time travel ploza. That's okay, alright,

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Speaker 1: let's start the time travel plus. So I think Joe

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Speaker 1: short trip for this guy, this time traveler, a policeman.

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Speaker 1: The policeman that was there noticed that the man was

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Speaker 1: our mystery, our mysterious time traveler. Here. Um, there's a

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Speaker 1: Rim tracked the track the widow down and they had

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Speaker 1: do whatever I want. Anyway, they contacted this bank, which

424
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: was a real bank, um and though they verified somehow

425
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: that the documents were real, they couldn't verify that his

426
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: account or he existed. That's weird, right, yeah, that's unusual,

427
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: you know. They said, oh, yeah, it's our letterhead, it's

428
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: our seal, it's a blah blah blah. You can't just

429
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: download it from the internet. The nineteen you know, so

430
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: he had this stuff in his possession. But they said, oh,

431
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: it's account number blah blah blah. And they said, oh,

432
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: that doesn't exist. And they said, well it's under this name, which,

433
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,959
Speaker 1: by the way, there's no name actually associated with this story.

434
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: But they said, oh, it's in this name. And they said, well,

435
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: that guy doesn't have an account here, so I don't

436
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: know what you're dealing with. They also then contacted his

437
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: place of work, which was a real business, and again

438
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: they could not explain how the man had so much

439
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: documentation that he worked for him, but they didn't have

440
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: record of him existing or being an employee. This is

441
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: really weird. It's really weird. Right, he has all this

442
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: documentation that should prove that he exists. He's seems to

443
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: be very sincere and cooperative and actually genuinely confused about

444
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: why the place that he is from doesn't exist. But

445
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: everything else seems to be normal to him. You know,

446
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: he's dressed in normal clothes, he speaks fluent Japanese, he

447
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: has actual currency from actual places. I don't know. Maybe

448
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: I presume he did because he was from there, but

449
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: he had a driver's license from there, but they have it. Anyways,

450
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: this this interrogation and fact checking and all of that stuff,

451
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: it took about eight hours, at which point all parties

452
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: were basically just tired. He wasn't being uncooperative. They but

453
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, they weren't getting anywhere. But they weren't getting

454
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: anywhere because they were just they was all dead ends.

455
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: So the police decided to just place the man in

456
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: a guarded hotel room at night. They didn't, you know,

457
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: they didn't want to lock him up in jail. He

458
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: hadn't really actually technically broken any laws hospitality. Technically, he

459
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: didn't break any laws. He was being cooperative, he was

460
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: being sincere. He was genuinely confused and frustrated and scared.

461
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: So they thought, well, we'll just put him in the hotel.

462
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: We'll just you know, have a guard posted outside and

463
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: we'll be fine. Of course, they picked a room. There

464
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: was a small window, allege, no ledge, you know, things

465
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: like that, minor security measures that you would but basically,

466
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: I think they seemed to feel bad for the guy.

467
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: They allowed him to have dinner at the hotel restaurant

468
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: and then escorted him back to his hotel room, and

469
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: all parties agreed, including this man, that they would just

470
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: continue to try and get to the bottom of it

471
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: in the morning, because everybody kind of wanted to know

472
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: what was going on. When they went to go get

473
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: him in the morning, he wasn't there. He was gone.

474
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: He just left. He didn't check out. There was a

475
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: guard posted outside the only door that could get him

476
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: out of the place, and he said the door didn't

477
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: open all night, didn't hear anything unusual, There was no

478
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: suspicious behavior. There was just a small window leading out

479
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: of the room, and there was no ledge or anything,

480
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: and it was on a busy street or something like that.

481
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: Nger than that, It was my impression. It was the

482
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 1: fifth or six. Were there any great blinding flashes of light?

483
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: Not as far? I mean, you know, the guard said,

484
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: nothing unusual to report, just went to knock on the door,

485
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: and then suddenly there was nobody there. So the Japanese officials,

486
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: of course mounted a search. But then about after a day,

487
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: I did, well, we're not going to find him, so

488
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: they just stopped looking for him, and I guess decide.

489
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: I think they probably just decided it was all too

490
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: weird and they would just believe it be. It's Tokyo, right, Yeah,

491
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: there's a gazillion people in Tokyo. Even I can imagine

492
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: trying to find him, even even a white guy. When

493
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: there's enough people around, it's going to be hard to track.

494
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: So they're actually sorry, go ahead. So this guy was

495
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: a time traveler from the future, correct, I don't. I

496
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: don't think it's from the future. He was modern to

497
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: that time, right, it wasn't. It didn't seem as though

498
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: he had been blasted from the future back in you know,

499
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: his clothes were very authentic to the time, things like that.

500
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: So actually There are a couple theories about this. One

501
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: is that he he just came from an alternate reality.

502
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we know that there are in

503
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: infinite possibilities of worlds that exist in in this universe

504
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: or in multiple universe is that is the multiverse theory multiverse,

505
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: so we get it's possible that this man came from

506
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: an alternate dimension, adulterate dimension Earth, even in which the

507
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: only difference was a tiny sovereign country or the only

508
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: difference that they found out about which this falls into

509
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: that same fourth dimension holes lining up, somebody accedentally popping. Yeah, yeah,

510
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's totally possible that he just popped

511
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: into our universe, not from a different time, but from

512
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: a different universe. That was the only really difference that

513
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: again that we could discern. I think that he probably

514
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: would have said other things if if he realized he

515
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: would have maybe said, oh, well, yeah, and then there's

516
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: this war happening, and they would have said what what

517
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: or oh, why are you guys all not wearing green

518
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: right now? You know, things like little things. But if

519
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: there are in the multiverse theory, that is literally a possibility. Literally,

520
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, there could be a universe where the only

521
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: possibility is that, uh, Steve has hair. That's the only

522
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: difference in the universe. I have hair. Well, it's clear,

523
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: I have a full head of hair. It's just clear. Right,

524
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Anyways, there's another theory. But you know,

525
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: actually this actually suggests a way to solve the mystery.

526
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: If if these these clods have only thought of it back, then,

527
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: which is that Andorra. If it's the only difference is

528
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: that Andorra in our world was named Tored in the

529
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: other world, then there's got to be a copy of

530
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: this guy living in Andorra. And there's only eight people,

531
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: so it would have been a simple manner to interrogate everybody,

532
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: every single Yeah, yeah, you're totally right. Of course, there's

533
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: another theory here, less metaphysical. It is possible that this

534
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: man was brainwashed, right, he was genuinely confused. It's possible

535
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: that he had been brainwashed and led to believe that

536
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: he was from the country that didn't exist. Maybe for

537
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: a reconmission. It's also possible a recondission into Japan well,

538
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: to see if he could get in, all right, I mean,

539
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: he gets in on a fake passport or how long

540
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: does it take them to actually react or whatever. Yeah,

541
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: if you if you are if you're trying to invade

542
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: a country, or if you're trying to like sneak in

543
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, will people notice something? And how far

544
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: can you push the forgery? For instance, if it was

545
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: a forgery, how far can you push that document? How

546
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: far can you push that before the officials will actually notice?

547
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: So they're testing their Japanese security, Yeah, absolutely they could.

548
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: Also it could also have been a dark government ployd

549
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: on awry. Yeah, I'd be just thinking it could have

550
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: been like some spy con kind of thing. And well,

551
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: once you have a story, you stick to it so

552
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: you can escape. You stick to your story. But if

553
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna be, if you're actually gonna be a kind

554
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: of a spy trying to slip into the country, you know,

555
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: doesn't really make a lot of sense to have a

556
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: passport a phony country. Why wouldn't you just do the

557
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: same country. The thing that I actually think is valid

558
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: in this though, is that the passport was stamped a

559
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: number of times. And typically if you're just bringing the

560
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: passport up to somebody for your visa stamp, they see

561
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: it stamped before. They're just going to assume it's a

562
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: good passport. They don't need to check it, stamp it,

563
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: and send you on your way, particularly if you're deplaning

564
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: with hundreds of people, right, it's easier to just get

565
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: lost in that crowd and have them just keep stamping. Unfortunately,

566
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: similar to to Joe's story, it's just a story. Uh.

567
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: The original source for the story was a book called

568
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: The Directory of Possibilities. And I've actually read the portion

569
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: of this book that pertains to this, and it's definitely

570
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: literally just a story. Sorry, guys, So that the explicitly

571
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: states in this work this is all just fiction. No,

572
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: but it's clearly it doesn't try and claim oh and

573
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: here's a source for it, and here's another source for it.

574
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: It's just a Directory of Possibilities where they tell a

575
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: bunch of sci fi stories and they say, well these

576
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: this might have happened. I don't know, maybe, so sorry,

577
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 1: it's just a short story fiction book. Yeah, got out

578
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: back my story. It turned into an urban legend. Yeah.

579
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: Actually that book contains within it a lot of kind

580
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: of popped out of into history dimensions stories. Rudolf Fense

581
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: may even be in there. The next one that we've

582
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: got would be my story, which is the next chronologically next,

583
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: and this one's going to be true. Is John tetor

584
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: or Teeter? I've I've heard that, I've heard it pronounced

585
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: a couple of different ways. I'm I'm just gonna go

586
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: with Teeter. The story of John Teter is. John Teter

587
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: is the name of a self proclaimed time traveler from

588
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: the year six. He first appeared on internet forums for

589
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: the Time Travel Institute on the second of November two thousand,

590
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: but he wasn't calling himself John Teeter. He was instead

591
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: calling himself or using his handle, time traveler Underscore zero. Well,

592
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: I must have gotten on there pretty quick, because, yeah,

593
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: the Time Travel Institute for him. You would think that

594
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: that's probably why he had the zero, Probably because somebody

595
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: else got time traveler trying time travel. Yeah, that's probably

596
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: one of the moderators. Um. Teeter would go on to

597
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: make claims or predictions about future events and provide descriptions

598
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: of how time travel worked, and then he would quote

599
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: unquote leave us. On the March two thousand one, he

600
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: went back to the future apparently, so he came spent

601
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: about five months and in the century and then left.

602
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, the original posts as the name of the

603
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: forum time Travel Institute or the forum would indicate we're

604
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: we're about time travel. And it wasn't until he started

605
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: using the forums in two thousand and one January, yeah,

606
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: January of two thousand one, for the now defunct art

607
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: Bell forums that the name John Teeter came about. And

608
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: that's that's because they required a name instead of just

609
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: a handle, right, and that is absolutely correct. They required

610
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: an actual name instead of just some made up whatever

611
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: you wanted to use. Now the I just briefly mentioned

612
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: there's the aren't Bell forums aren't in existence anymore. But

613
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: people liked or were so interested in what Teeter said

614
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: that they actually copied them and put them onto other sites,

615
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 1: and eventually that all got co mingled into one location again.

616
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: But here's here's what he claimed. He said that he

617
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: was a soldier sent from the year six and a

618
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: computer virus and or bug. I never was quite clear,

619
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: is it okay, because I've seen it called the virus?

620
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: Have seen it called the bug? Okay, was going to

621
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: wipe out the computers in his world, and his mission

622
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: was to head back to in order to get an

623
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: IBM fifty one computer, which was necessary have the evidently

624
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: the necessary equipment to fight that bug. Yeah, it was

625
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: to fix it. I think you're going to talk about

626
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: this little bit, but it is an actual thing. It

627
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: really was actually happening at that time that very few

628
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: people knew about. Yes, that is correct. Yeah, the bug

629
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: well yeah, here here's what it is. Is is the

630
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: the IBM people say and or we've figured out it

631
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: has the ability to read both a p L, which

632
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: I believe he stands for a programming language actually and

633
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: basic code. No one knew until after Teeters posts had

634
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: stopped that what he was saying was accurate, and indeed

635
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: engineers from IBM confirmed that yes, this computer from was

636
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: able to use both of these codes, both ap L

637
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: and basic. I think, I think almost, I think just

638
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: about any computer can use those things. I don't. I mean,

639
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: the thing about it is it's like I have very

640
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: limited programming knowledge. I will admit that right now. Yeah. Yeah,

641
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: it's actually. Um, the way it works is in a computer,

642
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: the only language it speaks is machine code like hexadscible code.

643
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: And then if you want to run a language like

644
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: C plus plus, then you've got either get an interpreter

645
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: or compiler. So you write your program in C plus

646
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: plus or in basic or in a p L, and

647
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: then you compile it to compile or translates that into

648
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: the machine code that the computer actually knows. That makes

649
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: sense some but but I don't. I'm I'm guessing that

650
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: not every computer can read every other computers compiled code.

651
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: That's why I can't about something from Windows on an

652
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: Apple computer. Yeah, I mean, you've got to get a

653
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: compiler that's specific to that particular type of machine share.

654
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's what basically what the IBM was

655
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 1: all about. But but here's the reason that they're after

656
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: it is that there is an issue with Unix or

657
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: Unix based code, which is everything, which is just to

658
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: clarify most everything, every every operating system we use at

659
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: this point is Unix? Is it? Now? Okay again, I'm programming,

660
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: not my wheelhouse. The thing is is everybody will remember

661
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: the whole ker buffle of Y two K and how

662
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: it's going to screw up the banking system because of

663
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: the way the numbers go. Well, there's the same issue

664
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: with Unix. It's called the year eight problem. Simple this again,

665
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: I had to simplify this, just to wrap my head

666
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: around it. What it means is that there's gonna be

667
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: an issue at three hours, fourteen seconds or fourteen minutes

668
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: seven seconds universal time code is that what UTC stands for, Okay,

669
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: on the nineteenth of January, at which point, because of

670
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: the way that Unix encodes the date time in binary format,

671
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: it's not going to be able to record it properly anymore,

672
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: and it's clocks are gonna jump back to one. Um

673
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: it runs out of space? Is it runs out of

674
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: space where it starts over to what those old Well,

675
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: so it only hasn't a specific number of slots right, correct, right,

676
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: So it can't be an infinite Oh, we'll just have

677
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: all of this binary code go on forever. So I

678
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: from what I understand from the research that I did

679
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: about this, is that what happens at that very second

680
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: is that you hit the limit. So it's going to restart, yeah,

681
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: or whatever the computer things. But really the main problem

682
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: is it runs out of out of things. It can't

683
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: go to the next second. Yes, exactly, that's my understanding.

684
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 1: But again I'm not that I've used unix. Is actually

685
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: my jobs in the past. I don't recall we're hearing

686
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: about this in particular, is well, it's because it's been

687
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: solved at this point. It's not. It's not it's a

688
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: non issue. But at this time in programming history, it

689
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: was an issue that IBM actually knew about and that

690
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: they were not advertising for reasons that are probably fairly clear.

691
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: And actually that you know, as he was saying, IBM

692
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: knew about it, and they confirmed it after this story

693
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: because a bunch of people were saying, well, IBM, is

694
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: this true? Can you validate this? And they said, well,

695
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: we're really going to tell anybody, but yes, And apparently

696
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: it was one of those things that very a few

697
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: people knew about outside of IBM. Apparently that's what I've read,

698
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: and and in Teeter's time as well as ours. Um,

699
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, like Devil was talking about, everything was Unix space.

700
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: So it was going to cause this huge problem because

701
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: they hadn't figured out how to fix it in his time,

702
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: so they had to reset it with this new computer. Right.

703
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I still don't understand what the

704
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: IBM gonna do. That doesn't make a lot of sense. Well,

705
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: it actually, I don't know. When you go out and

706
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: read it at Yeah, you can read it and if

707
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: if code makes sense to you, you'll get it. It

708
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: doesn't to me as many times as I read it

709
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: in many versions. It's just that I just don't think

710
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: that way. But but back to Teter, he he said

711
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: that his reason for being in the year two thousand

712
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: was for personal reasons. Over the period of about four months,

713
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: he responded to questions from people who were pasting on

714
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: the forums. He described future events. But he always and

715
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: I gotta admit this is a pretty good thing that

716
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: he did for himself. Yeah, is He always kind of

717
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: gave the general disclaimer that there are multiple realities and

718
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: alternate realities do exist, and so it's possible that we

719
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: might not be in the same timeline as where he

720
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: came from. Well, didn't he describe the way that you

721
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: have to time travel to without paradoxes in that way? Okay, Yeah,

722
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: we're definitely gonna get to that. And obviously he's not

723
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: at the same time on his US because the first

724
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: thing that comes up there. Yeah, but he he talks

725
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: about some things. He gives some dire warnings for everybody

726
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: to learn first aid and stop eating beef because well

727
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: mad cow disease is a huge, terrible problem in his time.

728
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: In fairness, it was a little bit of a thing

729
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: for us. It was a little bit of a thing

730
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: for us. But evidently in his time is knocking people

731
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: out left, right and center. Although again, in fairness, I'm

732
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: not totally sure how first aid like helps with mad

733
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: cow disease. But okay, he was talking about an apocalypse. Yeah, yeah,

734
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: that's that's where that's coming from. It. We're going to

735
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: get into that just in a moment. I just want

736
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: to get a couple of other things that he gave

737
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: information on. He provided a bunch of tactical specs regarding

738
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: how time travel worked, which were I read through a

739
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: little bit of it. It's pretty interesting. He used some

740
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: really complex algorithms. He gave some hard to understand images

741
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: of his time machine. And his time machine was pretty

742
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: awesome because it was well, the first one was in

743
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: uh god, what was it? It was a car? Well know,

744
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: it eventually into yeah, yeah, he moved it to a suburban,

745
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: but it was in some kind of seventies sports car.

746
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: I want to say it was like a Camaro or

747
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: a core of I love this thing, man. I love

748
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: also that you know, you need a car for it,

749
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: but you can just move it from car to car. Yeah,

750
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: it's just you know, it's like the Dolorean future, except

751
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: for that the Dorian was integral to that time machine, right,

752
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: it was embedded in the DeLorean, whereas this thing was

753
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: a huge box. Right do you have to do you

754
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: have to like have a car so you can plug

755
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: this thing into the cigarette lighter and like to make

756
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: it move with you. That that's like connection. So did

757
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: he go to it like a museum and get himself

758
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: a classic seventies car? Or why didn't he just didn't

759
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: you grab a futuristic car and bring that back? That

760
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: would have been much more cool. I think he wanted

761
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: to blend in, right, if your time travel, you want

762
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: to blend in a little. Yeah, you don't want to

763
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: have a twenty seven car. But also maybe cars didn't

764
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: really maybe he could find one, right, I don't know.

765
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a hard thing is is he showed

766
00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: a lot of things that we're plausible, but there isn't

767
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: a whole lot there to to really back up. The

768
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: other thing that he showed, of course, was his his

769
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: awesomely cool futuristic military insignia. I think it's kind of cool.

770
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: It is. It's it makes me think of something that's

771
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: a cross between stargate and NASA. Yeah. Yeah, it totally

772
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: does look like a kind of a space insignia that

773
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: somebody would have come up with in the eighties. Yeah,

774
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: you know, or you know, ripped off from an Air

775
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: Force group or something like that. I mean, it's it's

776
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: hard to say, but but like I said, Teeter, he

777
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: made a lot of predictions, uh that that don't appear

778
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: to have come true, and there's there there were some

779
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: great ones. He's got one left, which is that in

780
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: this year, World War three is going to break out,

781
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: which I'm really hoping doesn't happen. Yeah, I hope it

782
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: doesn't happen to Actually, when you look at the world

783
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: is kind of going up in flames easday. Well there's

784
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: here's I just want to call out a couple that

785
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: a handful that he gave note of. First one is

786
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: that a civil war would break out in the US

787
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: and it would start with civil unrest and take off

788
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: in two thousand five and would split the US eventually

789
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: into five separate regions with different leaders and objectives, which

790
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: obviously hasn't happened. We didn't break up in two thousand

791
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: and eight. The two thousand eight Olympics would be canceled.

792
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: That obviously didn't happen. They were in Beijing. He made

793
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: a comment, I believe the comment was something along the

794
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: lines of have you figured out the overheating problem with

795
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: your space plane? He called it a space plan, which

796
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: people have said was a reference to the space Shuttle. Well,

797
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: if you know your history, Columbia space a disaster of

798
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: two thousand three was caused because a piece of insulating

799
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: foam on the which rocket is it? It was the

800
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: main rocket that lifts it off from the Earth, the

801
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: booster rocket, I think it is, which one it was.

802
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: Chunk of foam came off, hit the tip of the wing,

803
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: caused a hole which, when the shuttle re entered the atmosphere,

804
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: began to disintegrate because of the friction and the heat

805
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: and the pressure, which of course then caused the whole

806
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: thing to disintegrate and kill everybody. I'm not willing to

807
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: overheating issue. That's that's more like overheating and bursting and

808
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: the bursting into flames, And no, it's not. It's an

809
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: issue of faulty equipment. It's just not secured, right. Yeah. Well,

810
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: and they've they obviously fixed this for all future missions.

811
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: But people have pointed to that as well. Looked he

812
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: was right. We've got another one where he said China

813
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: would put a man into orbit, which was an easy one. Yeah,

814
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of time. He did it in

815
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Uh. This one that didn't come

816
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: through was that cern would discover time travel in the

817
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: year two thousand and one. You don't know that, and

818
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: as far as we know that, it hasn't happened. You

819
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, though, you're right, I don't about why

820
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: would day Oh my god, can you imagine? Well you

821
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: think about this if you if you want to keep

822
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: the existence of time travel under wraps, and some guy

823
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: goes out and blabs, you just get in the timechine,

824
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: go back to the day before he blabs and kill

825
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: him exactly. Isn't that we'd never know? Wow, he slipped

826
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: on a banana? Better? Better still, you know you go

827
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: back to you go back to a day before whoever

828
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: briefed this guy on the time travel thing and just

829
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: a whisper to somebody, Hey, don't tell him he's a

830
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: blabber mouth. Yeah, that's a much nicer way to go

831
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: about it. Wow, Joe going the moral route. I don't

832
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: usually do that. No, you better not doing anymore. The

833
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: one thing that he did say, and and he well,

834
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: and he did really well as we talked about, was

835
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: he talked about the fact that there was the multiple

836
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: timeline theory is real, and that is why some of

837
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: the things that he saw weren't the same at the time,

838
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: is what he knew should have been happening in two

839
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: thousands and just if if you haven't seen a sci

840
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: fi show that talks about alternate reality or how time

841
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: can quote unquote split into different realities, here's a very

842
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: simplified version. You've got a coin in your hand and

843
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: you flip it and it lands on heads, and your

844
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: timeline continues on as you know it, but in an

845
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: alternate one, the coin lands on tails, and the timeline

846
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: jogs off and it splits off from itself, and from

847
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: there you know that it's landed from tails. So now

848
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: there's two. That's a very very basic basic sums it

849
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 1: up though, and what it means a sense, a sense

850
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: that things are things are happening. One following one direction

851
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: or there all the time, millions of times every second

852
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: around the world will strains. We've got a lot of

853
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: universes out there. Yeah, there's I mean, there's the quantum

854
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: physics theory, right, is that like all possibilities are happening

855
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: at all time until your brain focuses on one and

856
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: decides to see that one. Right, you can watch Oh god,

857
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: what's the movie? What the bleep do we know? Do

858
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: you guys? Did you guys ever see that? It's like

859
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: a pretty metaphysical telling of quantum physics, but also super

860
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: accessible if you're interested and anyways, it's you know, like

861
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: I said, it's just really easy accessible way too, I

862
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: guess kind of start to wrap your head. Yeah, you know,

863
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: if if that's something that may interest you. I'm not

864
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: saying it's you know, comprehensive in any way, but you know,

865
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: so in that universe, in that theory that you know,

866
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: the flip of the coin, the coin is literally impinite

867
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: until it's Schrodinger right, Yeah, yeah, right, same thing. So

868
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: all those millions of different universes all out there in

869
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: the same time. This is a solid solid explanation for Yeah.

870
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: The thing about this that the implication of the multiverse

871
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: thing is though, is that is that so many new

872
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: universes are being created every second by all the different

873
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: all the different changes that go on. It means just

874
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: sooner or later we're gonna run. Essentially, we're gonna run

875
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: of ram. This is going to get real Medici is

876
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: going to end real quick. But there's a lot of

877
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: stuff out there about time is just how your brain

878
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: experiences your life. It's not actually linear. Therefore, I won't

879
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: run out of everything. Everything that could have ever possibly

880
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: happened is happening all at once. Yeah, that's true. There

881
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: is that theory, and that's there's a time travel theory

882
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: from that is that you can because everything is happening

883
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: all at the same time, and then we just just

884
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: time is just an illusion that helps us keep track

885
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: of things and make sense of things. That means that

886
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: all you need to do is jump over to a

887
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: multiverse to travel to a different point in time. And

888
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: that's what Peter did. Yeah, and that's and that's uh

889
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: so essentially all you need to do is in a

890
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: teleportation device. And we've already and actually we were already

891
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: working on teleportation right here on planet Earth. Well, you

892
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: actually announced, so that could happen. Maybe he did. Maybe

893
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: maybe he did. The one thing that I and and

894
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: I didn't really I didn't grasp a lot of what

895
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: you guys just talking about. But the one thing that

896
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: I really liked was the way that this applied and

897
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: he explained. Also, everybody I'm hoping has heard of the

898
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: grandfather paradox. Futura addresses it pretty solidly, so the grand

899
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: if you have again, if you haven't heard of it,

900
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: The grandfather paradox was first described in n says a

901
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: time traveler goes back in time and he kills his

902
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: grandfather before his grandfather meets his grandmother. Problem is, of course,

903
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: as a result of the time traveler can't have been born,

904
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: so then his grandfather can't have been killed. So it's

905
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: just it's just paradox. If to have one, you can't

906
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: have the other. So that the alter reality thing solves

907
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: that well, actually, and it doesn't need to need to

908
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: be solved by alternate reality, because you can go back.

909
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: You can go back in time murder your grandfather and

910
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: not cease to exists because your grandmother had an affair

911
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: and he's not actually your grandfather. Yeah, that's what you

912
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: can and just be your own grandfather. There is that.

913
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: There is that, okay, um, But essentially, yeah, he's from

914
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: a different timeline, so that's why everything's not gonna work.

915
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: He could also he could also argue that because he's

916
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: back here, you know, shooting his mouth off and saying stuff,

917
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: he probably shouldn't be saying the timeline and I don't

918
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: know that he wasn't wanting to do that. But let's

919
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: get into the there's really kind of like the other ones,

920
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: really just two theories about this whole thing. Ye. Of course,

921
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: A is that he really was a time traveler. And

922
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: I did, of course look at the specs and they

923
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: make sense to me from a guy who doesn't know

924
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: how time travel works. So it's impressively detailed, and there's

925
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: there's some stuff in there that seems accurate. He he

926
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: did kind of hit the mark on a few things,

927
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: but like I said, the multiverse thing really defends him,

928
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: so he could have been real. The problem actually that

929
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: I read about the whole you know, the science behind

930
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: it and all that stuff. With the specs that he described,

931
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: that that unit that he would have moved from car

932
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: to car, I think they said would have weighed somewhere

933
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: like in the neighborhood of pounds, and that he claimed

934
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: to have just moved it himself. He never said he

935
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: didn't have a forkliff. Perhaps there are really strong he

936
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: is a soldier, But so that was That was a

937
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: problem that I thought presented fairly frequently, was that people

938
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: did look at the specs and kind of trying to

939
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: do the math and crunch the numbers on what that

940
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: thing would have weighed at that point, and it was

941
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: just the right. Yeah. The other thing is that he

942
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: wasn't a scientist from his time. He was a soldier

943
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: and then a farmer according to him, who then got

944
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: into the time travel program as an adult and was

945
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: sent back. So he's grasp of it might not have

946
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: been accurate. The specs that he posted were supposedly pictures

947
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: that he took of the user manual, so that it

948
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be his understanding was wrong. Good point

949
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: posted specs that he ostensibly had, and he didn't have

950
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: to understand what it meant. Yes, uh, well, let's do

951
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: the second theory on which is it's a hoax. Well, yeah,

952
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: he turns Teter didn't appear for the first time ever

953
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: in the year two thousand. He first appeared in nine

954
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: Namee turned up in with with facts is that were

955
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: sent to the Art Bell. At least the first one,

956
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: I believe was on the twenty nine of July, and

957
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: it claimed to be from someone who was a time

958
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: traveler from the year twenty four. The year difference two

959
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: years difference confused from the process of time traveling. Could

960
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: be he forgot what he wasn't completely materialized. I don't

961
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: know figured out how this fact machine thing worked. Maybe

962
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: he maybe he actually was in the year four. Maybe

963
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: that was the first time or the second time that

964
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: he went back. I don't know. But the person who

965
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: said the facts made many similar claims about a few

966
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: teacher But instead of talking about the year twenty eight issue,

967
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: the units issue, was making all kinds of claims about

968
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: the white two K issues that everybody was worried about

969
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: at the time. That's a problem if you're going to

970
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: go public in two thousands. Yes, uh, there is a

971
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: TV show called Voyager. It's an Italian TV show and

972
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: they investigated this. Yeah, in two thousand and eight they

973
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: got a hold of a private detective named Mike Lynch

974
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: who found that there was no registry traces uh present

975
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: or past of a John Teeter or Teeter family. That's okay,

976
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: he's from a different universe. But the thing is Teeter

977
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: said that he was from Florida, and nobody in that

978
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: red that area that he looked for that family name

979
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: wasn't registered. But he did find a for profit company

980
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: called the John Teeter found Dation which was formed on

981
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: the sixteenth September two three. It had no office, it

982
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: was it had a p O box in kissimme? Is

983
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: that how you say that? Kissing me? I'm gonna go

984
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: for kissing me alright, kissing me Florida. There's there's no

985
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: evidence anywhere of Teeter to be found, and the only

986
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: person who happens to be the CEO of the John

987
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: Teeter Foundation by the name of Larry Haber, is the

988
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: only person who ever seems to have met Teeter or

989
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: have any encounters with life in real life. In I

990
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: R L scary, I was about to make the same joke. Yeah,

991
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: the private detective kind of. He came to the conclusion

992
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: that likely Teeter was a guy by the name of

993
00:57:54,240 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: John Rick Haber, who was the lawyer's brother. He was

994
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: a computer scientist. He would have known about some of

995
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: the things with the IBM and the Unix issue. And

996
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: his name evidently is on a post office box application,

997
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: uh for the John Dieter Foundation. Okay, so there's a problem.

998
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: So I'm while I love the multiverse idea and that

999
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: makes so much of this plausible, that private investigator for

1000
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: me at least kind of put the cap on this. Well.

1001
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: I think the reason that it's important for us to

1002
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: do these stories, and specifically for us as the skeptics

1003
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: I guess, to do these stories is that I think

1004
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: that at least one of us, but maybe all three

1005
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: of us, believe in time travel and believe that the

1006
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: multiverse theory is that, Yeah, what you just do as

1007
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: an existence human being, But you know, that's the sort

1008
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: of thing. It's the same thing with those really bogus

1009
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: claims of aliens. Is it's really important to take head

1010
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: on the issues of time travel when somebody is just

1011
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: clearly just lying about it, when it just debases any

1012
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: kind of real claims that may or may not come up. Yeah,

1013
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm very skeptical about time travel. I mean, but you

1014
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: never know. Things that we thought were impossible a hundred

1015
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: years ago, they're happening now, So who the hell knows? Yeah,

1016
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: we have little devices in our phone that let us

1017
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: talk to people halfway across the world. Years ago didn't

1018
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: even exist, and you couldn't even have conceived conversations with

1019
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: my ninety seven year old grandmother fairly frequently where you know,

1020
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: we talked about the podcast sometimes and it's like, okay,

1021
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: we're starting, all right, you know the radio, but it's

1022
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: the internet. Do you know the Internet? No, okay, all right,

1023
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: let's just so we put it on tape and we

1024
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: mail it to everybody. Yeah, that's how we you know

1025
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: it's true, it's who knows? Who knows? Yeah, we'll find

1026
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: out someday. I'll live to easily. You guys probably will

1027
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm guessing I probably will. You get hit by

1028
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: a bus cab. And unless nuclear war breaks out this year, yeah,

1029
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: pretty big trouble will be poking our heads out of

1030
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: the rubble. And hey, titter was right? Does exist? Oh

1031
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: my god? So yeah, I mean, I guess if you

1032
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: if you really want time travel to be a reality,

1033
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: then you've got to be hoping for nuclear war this year. Yeah,

1034
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: I guess. Or it's a different universe, it doesn't really matter. Multiverse.

1035
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: It's multiverse, different multiverse. Yeah. Anyways, the other thing about

1036
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: you would think if time travel existed in the future

1037
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: and they were sending people back to do things that

1038
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: that retrieve things or for whatever on special missions, you

1039
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: would think that they would have briefed them and say, hey,

1040
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: by the way, don't change, don't change the future, don't

1041
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: don't go to say thing they'll tell you know. I mean, yeah,

1042
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: you think you get that. That would be the basis. Well,

1043
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: that's if time is truly linear. If it's a multiverse scenario,

1044
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: then who cares. It doesn't matter. As long as you

1045
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: come back to the right one. It doesn't matter. But

1046
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: you can screw up other timelines, but it doesn't matter

1047
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: your timeline. It's not your paramox exactly. I guess with that,

1048
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: we're going to wrap it up. It's been an awesome

1049
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: adventure your time and space. I still don't see why

1050
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: you needed an I I just go google it. I'm

1051
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: sure it will become very apparent. Um. This episode, along

1052
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: with some of our research, is on the website Thinking

1053
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: Sideways podcast dot com. You can leave us a comment there.

1054
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 1: You can also do some awesome stuff on that sidebar. There.

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Speaker 1: We've got T shirts and phone cases. I just got

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Speaker 1: my phone case, so if you live in Portland you

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Speaker 1: might be able to find me now, which is weird. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've got stuff on that. I still need to buy something.

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Speaker 1: I still need to get my shirt. Yeah. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to everybody, yeah for real, and also thank you to

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Speaker 1: everybody who's donated. A few standout donors are let's see,

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Speaker 1: Kathleen and Clarissa, and Becca and Wendy have all donated recently.

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Speaker 1: I think, hey, guys, the chicks are showing you up.

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Speaker 1: Come on, I knew. Also on our website you can

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Speaker 1: find this new thing that we have which is transcripts,

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Speaker 1: and those are all being transcribed by a woman by

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Speaker 1: the name of Alison Wison. All the ones are on

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Speaker 1: the site right now as of the recording of this episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, she's great. Um so if you want to

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Speaker 1: read it, or if you have any hearing impaired people

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Speaker 1: or anything like that, the transcripts right there. We can

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Speaker 1: be a little hard to understand sometimes, particularly in our

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Speaker 1: old episodes, so that's a good resource there, give her something. Really,

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Speaker 1: I was glad to of a T shirt, I think. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Allison, tex a millionaire. Yeah, so you might

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Speaker 1: be listening to us on the website, but probably not.

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Speaker 1: You're probably listening to us on iTunes. That's where everybody's

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Speaker 1: listening to us. If you are listening to us on iTunes,

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Speaker 1: leave us a comment and a reading. That's how other

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Speaker 1: people find us. Even if it's a bad rating and

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Speaker 1: you hate that Steve elongates his words, that's fine, leave

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Speaker 1: us a rating. We like to hear what you guys

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Speaker 1: have to say. We kin for them, but do whatever

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Speaker 1: you want. It's a free country. I hope your country

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Speaker 1: is free to you. Are You could also stream us

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Speaker 1: on a just a crazy amount of different hosting sites.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say any of them, all of

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Speaker 1: the multiverse ones. You can find us on Facebook, find

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Speaker 1: his friend us like us on Facebook. We've got the

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Speaker 1: group and the page, so do both of those. You

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Speaker 1: might us on Twitter thinking sideways been maybe a little

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Speaker 1: dormant recently, but just okay, it's cool, calm down. None

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Speaker 1: of us are busy, everet and you can always send

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Speaker 1: us an email if you have feedback if you want

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Speaker 1: to correct our science on any of these, because I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that there's some really messed up science that we

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Speaker 1: talked about. If you are an expert on the IB

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Speaker 1: would love to hear from Yeah, there's lots of other

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Speaker 1: stuff that we'd love to hear you hear from you about.

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Speaker 1: If you've got suggestions, stop sending us weird murder suggestions

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Speaker 1: please please can continue set please send them. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, if you are a time traveler from the future,

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Speaker 1: I would like to know if if our podcast gets

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Speaker 1: so huge that we eventually are offered like if we

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Speaker 1: or something like that, or if we kind the basis

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Speaker 1: of the whole society or something like that like Bill

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Speaker 1: and Ted. We really kind of like to know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how big do we get? Are we gonna be? Are

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Speaker 1: we going to get bigger than serial We We want

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Speaker 1: to know, So email us all of that. That email

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Speaker 1: address is thinking Sideways podcast at gmail dot com. So

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Speaker 1: with that, I think we're going to scoot on out

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Speaker 1: of here back to the future just in time be

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Speaker 1: excellent to each other.