1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg Eric Allen talking about 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: the Reese's Senior Ball. You're gonna hear from assistant GM 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: rex Hogan, Senior Advisor Phil Savage, and Director of College 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Scouting John Carr. They all three of those guys were 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: a part of the ten person contingency down in Mobile 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: restricted rules throughout the course of the NFL throughout the 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: course of the week in Mobile, Alabama, but still an 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: extremely beneficial one and an important one in the draft process. 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: So it seems e a Ethan, can I just start 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: here by saying that it is Groundhog Day in the 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Groundhog in fact see his shadow. So we got what 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: six more weeks of winter, and it does feel like 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Groundhog Day here in Floria Park because we got blitzed 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: with snow. I grew up in Buffalo, New York. I 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: thought I was seeing Lake effects snow again coming a 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: couple of feet out here in Floria Parks. So the guys, 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: the Jets contingent who went down to Mobile, Alabama last weekend, Uh, 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: they came back and they had a lot of white 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: stuff in store for yeah, and down in Mobile I 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: we know from our experiences there that the weather is 22 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: very unpredictable, like you could wake up it could be 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: thirty degrees and then by the time practice comes around 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: it could be And I believe it was Rex Hogan 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: that said to you, like, hopefully it's a little warmer 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: when he comes back up. Well, sorry to say, Rex, 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: it did not get warmer, and in fact got a 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: lot colder and you got downs with snow. Yeah, it 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: was very interesting, like we're living in odd times or 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: very unique times, I should say. We interviewed Phil Savage 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: and he took the interview from his car, whereas opposed 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: to you've been going to Mobile, Alabama for us the 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: past couple of years. I know I started, I don't know, 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit after two thousand and ten, probably 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: an eleven twelve range where we decided we were going 36 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: to go down there, and it was a good opportunity 37 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: to not only yeah, of course you want to speak 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: to the prospects, but you want to speak to the 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Jets contingent and really dive in on the scouting process 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: because the calendar changes right right around the time of 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and between the conference championship games and 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. You have the Senior Bowl every year, 43 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: and what was different this year is each NFL team 44 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: was only allowed to bring ten representatives, and of course 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: we weren't down there with our cameras and we weren't 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: interviewing people, but we took advantage of the virtual space again, Uh, 47 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: catching up with Phil Savage, Rex Hogan, John carr Um 48 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: and those guys were tremendous with their time. But like 49 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: you said, UH, very interesting because in the past you'd 50 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: always find out about in four normal interviews what teams 51 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: were talking to prospects and you would see it out 52 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: in front of you. Now everything was formal where I 53 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: believe the Jets in every NFL team, and an opportunity 54 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: to speak to a hundred thirty two prospects, you know, 55 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: at least a hundred and thirty up to a hundred 56 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: forty prospects, but it was in a formal setting. And 57 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: in between plexis plexiglass. You had four Jets representatives on 58 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: one side, four on the other, and two prospects simultaneously. 59 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Then we're taking place at the same time. The layout 60 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: of the interview space is crazy to me. And what's 61 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: even crazier is that this could be. I think it 62 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: might be the only time that NFL teams will be 63 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: able to interview prospects face to face, because if you 64 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: think about the combine, those rules have changed. Those interviews 65 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: will be virtual. Typically the combine is like speed dating, 66 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: like for the course for the course of the week, 67 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: where you're you're ripping in, players are coming in, you 68 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: throw them on the board, you have you have a plan. 69 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Now this is all gonna be virtual. But I think 70 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: the benefit in all this maybe not the benefit, but 71 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: the positive news is that each NFL team has experienced 72 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: doing this because of last season. Obviously there was a 73 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: combine last year and then things turned virtual. But at 74 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: least now you can game plan for a virtual process 75 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: and the only other in person exposure, it seems, will 76 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: be pro days for the prospects. Yeah, well it really 77 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: changed was going back to the fall. You'd have scouts 78 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: on the road, and the typical of fall, you would 79 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: have scouts who leave their houses on maybe a Sunday 80 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: night and and and then they go to various colleges 81 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: and who whatever region they covered until maybe a Thursday, 82 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: and then sometimes they'd stay for a game and go 83 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: to a game on the week and well, there was 84 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: no on site visits at the colleges and the universities 85 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: this year. The scouts got an opportunity to see some games, 86 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: but as far as actually being in attendance for games, 87 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: that was down. But on site visits during the week 88 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: there was none of that this year, and that was 89 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: an advantage I think of the Senior Bowl is that 90 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: the guys had an opportunity to watch practice in front 91 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: of them. Miami Dolphins and the Carolina Panthers staff handled that. 92 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: The coaching chores Donomobile Alabama this week, but then they 93 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to actually sit down with the young 94 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: prospect and look in their rise and talk to them 95 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: about different things and then about systems, about skill sets, 96 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: about various maybe red flags that they've seen on reports 97 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So it's always different, and you 98 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: get that chance to talk to somebody in person, and 99 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: then you're all together too. If you really think about it, 100 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: when's the last time the Jet scouting staff was together. Well, 101 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: at least he had eight eight to ten guys down 102 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: their Jets representatives who UH took in practice together, didn't 103 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: interviews and then probably hit and UH that chance to 104 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: catch up as well. I'm sure that this was Phil 105 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: Savage said this in your interview. He said that this 106 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: was the most prospects that he's interviewed in his course 107 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: of being with the Jets, at the Senior Bowl, being 108 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: with any team, and then of course he was the 109 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: executive director of the Senior Bowl. And what he said 110 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: I found very fascinating that teams typically had about like 111 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty guys that they in a typical year 112 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: would be like, you know what, I don't need to 113 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: interview them, They're not really on our radar. But because 114 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: this could be the first and the only exposure in person, 115 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: at least in an interview setting to the players, they say, 116 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 1: you know what, let bring them on down. Let's interview 117 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: them all, just so we have a little something on 118 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: each individual player, because this could be the first and 119 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: the only time for certain scouts to evaluate players in 120 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: person throughout the course of the college football season and 121 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: the pre draft process. Which is crazy. What is the 122 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: last practices in the last game of the college season. 123 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: The college season is now officially it has its period, 124 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: and the next up for these guys is going to 125 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: be pro days, because like you just mentioned, no combine 126 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: and for us from a contact perspective, everything has been 127 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: so different. Um. You know, like I mentioned before, I 128 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: want you to paint the scene of what the primary 129 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: hotel in Alabama, Mobile, Alabama looks like a Senior Bowl week. Yeah, 130 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: it is the who's who of the NFL. You walk 131 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: into the Renaissance Hotel. There's an escalator directly to your 132 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: left when you walk in, and then you go up. 133 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: As you go up the escalator, you start to see 134 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: what looks to be like a just like a meeting, 135 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: like a huge meeting, And there's players, agents, media just 136 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: walking around. You have your check in desk if you're 137 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: if you want to get your credential or if you 138 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: want to get your Reese the Senior Bowl notepad. And um, 139 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: I would guess probably somewhere between two to three hundred 140 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: people at any given point are on that floor just 141 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: conversing and you know, maybe maybe sharing rumors, sharing gossip, 142 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: or trying to get to know each other, putting, planting 143 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: the seed for different teams in their ears. I mean, 144 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: it is really a fascinating site to see all the 145 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: different aspects of football congregate and operate. Yeah, and these 146 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: guys this year we're talking to Rex, Phil and John 147 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: about this. They were tested every day, so talk about 148 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: a changing dynamic. You get a COVID test in the morning, 149 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: you're wearing the masks and stuff like that. So there's 150 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: no oh two d people around each other on the 151 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: floor anymore. It's that interview process. I think what they 152 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: said in between around six at night and eleven thirty, 153 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: where they would talk to those prospects and you would 154 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: have the dual interview was going on at the same time. Um. 155 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, for us, this has totally changed because I 156 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: don't know how many years in a row I've been 157 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: going to the combine. While that certainly is changing this 158 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: year and you know it. It just even in your 159 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: time here, Ethan, it's changed so much. The media presence. 160 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean, there are thousands of people who are typically 161 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: credential for the Indianapolis Combine and now that will no 162 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: longer be. I guess n c A tournaments taking taking 163 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: place in Indianapolis this year, but I think, uh, the 164 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: NFL is going to have various sites where you still 165 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: can do the medical testing. Um, but the Combine as 166 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: we know it for two thoe no longer. All right, Well, 167 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: let's hear from Rex Hogan, Phil Savage, and John Carr 168 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: about the Reese's Senior Bowl and what lives have had 169 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: for this scouting department. Rex. Just how different has the 170 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: scouting process been this year? UM? From the combines, not 171 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: even from the combined perspective or the Senior Bowl, but 172 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: just moving through the whole aspect of the of the 173 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: fall has been you know, significant challenge for all of us. 174 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: UM without having access to the campus has been you know, 175 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: some of the games are not able to attend. UM. 176 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: You know, our scouts haven't been able to get on 177 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: campuses and get in front of the coaching staffs and 178 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: support staff. So it's been a huge huge change for us. 179 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: But our guys have done a really good job in 180 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: terms of adapting to that. A lot of virtual calls 181 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: for all of us that we have availability and each 182 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: one of the schools and colleges and programs, so you 183 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: know that that's been an opportunity for us to to 184 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: really get more in depth information that way. UM, but 185 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: you know we're definitely missing out and not being able 186 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: to be on campus and seeing practices and getting that 187 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: much exposure compared to just what the games are. Yeah, 188 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: that's that is typically all over the country throughout the year. 189 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: How many of those visits were eliminated and how many 190 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: games would you estimate that these guys were actually able 191 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: to go out to and be there on site? Man, 192 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: I can't give you the exact number off the top 193 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: of my head, e A. But I know it's significantly 194 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: less than than what we've done in the past. Just 195 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: because of the travel aspect, guys weren't is able to 196 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: get on many flights and make the trip or make 197 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: the commute to be able to go see the games. 198 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: So you know, there was nothing in the week to 199 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: really set it up where they could go to make 200 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: a couple of school of visits and then go to 201 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: see a game. So significant reduction in terms of that 202 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: and exposure. And I know I'll probably use that word frequently, 203 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: but there's you know, we've had a lot of reduced 204 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: number of exposure to two players in terms of the 205 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: practices and games, and then face to face interaction with 206 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: coaching staffs. You have a close knit staff there at 207 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: the Jets. How have the guys responded to all these 208 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: changes in terms of the preparation leading up to what 209 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: could be the second virtual draft in NFL history. Yeah, 210 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: they've they've been great. And we always talk about adapting, 211 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: adjusting and improvising on the move. That's what we have 212 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: to do in scouting and player personnel in general. You know, 213 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: thinks things happen, we have to adjust to that and 214 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: make the best of the situation. And you know, our 215 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: college scouts have done done a tremendous job with that 216 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: and just being flexible and giving us, you know, the 217 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: options to be able to make different or try to 218 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: find different you know, routes, to be able to communicate 219 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: with with coaches or people on on the staff on 220 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: the staffs around the country. So, yeah, it's been it's 221 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: been good. Guys are great with that. The pro guys 222 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: that have done a really good job in terms of 223 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: being able to do advances um without you know a 224 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: lot of exposure other than the tape from what they've seen. 225 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: So all right, you might rex listen, you've been going 226 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: to a lot of senior balls. How different was this 227 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: week compared to what you would previously previously experienced? The 228 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: biggest change of all of them, this is number eighteen 229 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: for me, and this is the most unique because of 230 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: there's no opportunity to have informal interviews with players, So 231 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: there's been minimal time we have the formal interviews or 232 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: a whole new different you know, set up in system 233 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: and how things have been done previously. So though you know, 234 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: the lack of face to face interaction with these guys 235 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: and the ability to to talk to him and get 236 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: to know him better has has been significantly reduced. Again, 237 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: so um, we're adapting with it. We're just doing what 238 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: we can in terms of the format of the week. 239 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: But you know, senior ROWL staff has done a great 240 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: job of having everything logistically set up for us, um 241 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: from from getting no swabs and COVID tested early in 242 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: the morning here and just for the whole operation because 243 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: anybody who's attended the game, yeah to attendant practices from 244 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: the NFL has to get tested. So it's a huge 245 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: ordeal and process. But you know, just the reduction in 246 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: the in the number of informal interviews that you can 247 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: have has been significant. But every night we we go 248 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: and we interview from six five until eleven thirty, and 249 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: you'll get two players at the same time. You get 250 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: thirty two guys throughout each night. Then you get coverage 251 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: or of every guy he gets at least fifteen minutes 252 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: face to face with them. So if you're interviewing thirty 253 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: two guys each night, how many are you able to 254 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: actually talk to throughout this week? And let me ask 255 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: you too, well, what is that setting like, because we've 256 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: heard your interview and guys actually through plexi glass plexiglass. Yeah, 257 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: it's exactly right, so you know they're there's thirty two 258 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: like I said, and you get two guys at each time. 259 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: So it's a forty ft area. That's two tables are 260 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: spread out. There's two eight at tables with a three 261 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: ft tall plexiglass that divides the table, so there there's 262 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: four of us on on each side spread out, and 263 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: then twenty ft away is another table that both these 264 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: guys these interviews are going simultaneously. So our group is 265 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: split up four and four to interview each each one 266 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: of the prospects simultaneously. So that that's unique because you've 267 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: got some guys who who speak very loudly and some 268 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: guys who are extremely quiet. So I had to stand 269 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: up and talk over the plexiglass a few times just 270 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: to be able to hear guys, and had the challenges 271 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: of having to wear the masks while it's going on, 272 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: and it can be a little frustrated to because you 273 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: can't hear guys and or can't even read lips and 274 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: responses to impact you, guys, with some players opting out 275 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: of the season and some teams unfortunately having your schedule 276 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: greatly reduced because of well, I think for the players 277 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: that opted out, you know, during before the season or 278 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: even during the season. You know, we we had graded 279 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: them last summer ahead of the season anyway, for our 280 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: spring grades, and so we had information on virtually every 281 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: player that did opt out. For some of the opt 282 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: outs to show up here in mobile and and practice. 283 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, we interviewed one young man whose entire season 284 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: was canceled. He opted out and decided not to go 285 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: back for one. But this event was the first time 286 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: he's had on full pads in thirteen months. So you know, 287 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: you've got a temper a little bit what you see here, 288 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: because these guys are just kind of working themselves back 289 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: into football mode. And it's been a challenge for some 290 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: of these players who did not play at all of 291 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: this season, whether they opted out or their school canceled 292 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: their season or what have you. So that is a 293 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: little bit of of something from a from a scout 294 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: side that you've got to manage in terms of your 295 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: expectations for a Tuesday practice when a when a player 296 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: hadn't even been on the field, and over a year 297 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: you you've really got to take that into account. This 298 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: week is complete. What are the next steps in the 299 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: college scouting process, because typically we'd be targeting the combine. 300 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: Now it seems like the focus is going to shift 301 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: the produce. Yeah, I think Eric really in the in 302 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: the immediacy after the Senior Bowl, of course, we'll go 303 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: back and watch all the take from these practices and 304 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: filling the blanks of things that you couldn't see live. 305 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: And then of course, the the junior list is now available. 306 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: We know who all the juniors are that are entering 307 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: the draft, so that'll be uh some catch up on 308 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: juniors that declared that maybe we didn't expect or don't 309 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: have a grade on yet. So we'll be doing that 310 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: here over the next few weeks. And then of course 311 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: we have our first major round of meetings in the 312 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: month of February ahead of what will be a you know, 313 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: a compromised combine in terms of evaluations. The on the 314 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: field testing and all there will be medicals of some kind, 315 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: which is always the most important aspect of the combine. 316 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: And then really after that, I would say probably from March, 317 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: for March one going forward, everyone will be building out 318 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: the schedules for these pro days, and you know, we 319 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: don't know yet if there's going to be some limitations 320 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: in terms of which pro days we can go to. 321 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: Uh you know, how many NFL people can attend those 322 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: pro days, So that's gonna be another work in progress 323 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: over the month of March, and of course for for 324 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas and our coaching staff, trying to integrate them into, 325 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: uh some of the college evaluations so that we can 326 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: merge those two tracks between scouting and coaching by the 327 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: time we really get to early April ahead of the draft. 328 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of work to be done. I 329 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: think that our guys and our staff have done a 330 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: ton of work. I know it's been totally different working 331 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: from home in many many respects, but at the same time, 332 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: the volume of work has still been relatively the same 333 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: because we've all continued to watch the tapes and do 334 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: the zoom call and those sorts of things. We just 335 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: haven't been able to do them on campus. What does 336 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: it mean to you, Phil and the rest of the 337 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: scouts when you see the coaching staff changes. Robert Sala 338 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: taken over a new offensive coordinator, Mike la Fleur. He's 339 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: gonna implement a new system. Solis talked about uh handling 340 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: uh handing the defense over to Jeff Albright, but uh 341 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: more traditional four three fronts. So can you talk about 342 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: the system changes that are on the horizon for this 343 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: team and how it impacts the Scouty's death. Yeah, I 344 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: would say that that all of us over the next 345 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: few weeks ahead of those first meetings in the middle 346 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: of February, we'll have to go back and maybe tweak 347 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: some of our evaluations from the fall. Now, because of 348 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: the experience I've had and and being part of a 349 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: three four team and a four three team, I've typically 350 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of things, tried to kind of 351 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: talk about a player fitting either or system because, unfortunately 352 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: the NFL, there are enough coaching changes that you know, 353 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: this happens unfortunately on a regular basis. So I think 354 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: you have to scout each individual defensive player for both 355 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: schemes and in many ways, whether you start in a 356 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: three four or a four three. Ultimately everybody ends up 357 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: in a in a four man front with two linebackers 358 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: and five defensive backs, so that won't be as much 359 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: of a change. I do think, though, that the definition 360 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: of what Robert Sali and Jeff Albrick will bring to 361 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: the table from a defensive standpoint will really help our 362 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: scouting staff. I've always felt like it was an easier 363 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: projection to make from college to pro when you are 364 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: running a four three, because most of the schools in 365 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: college run four man fronts. They have a couple of 366 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: off the line linebackers, and they have five defensive backs 367 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: on the field. Because the college game is a spread game, 368 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: that's the style of dfense that's being played, and so 369 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: I think the transition is just a little bit. It's 370 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: not as much of a guess as it is in 371 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: the three four and the three four you almost have 372 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: to project every single player. He is he a nose? 373 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: Is he a defensive end? Is he an outside backer? 374 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: Is an off the line linebacker? Uh, it can get 375 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: more complicated. I think I'm not gonna say it simplifies, 376 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: but I think it gives us more of a clear 377 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: vision of what we really need in this four three defense. 378 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm really looking forward to it. I think 379 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: our scouts are gonna thrive and having some specific definitions 380 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: in terms of what they're really looking for, uh in 381 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: players on the defensive side of the ball. And then 382 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: you know, offensively, last year we had made somewhat of 383 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: a shift to the wide zone run game, so I 384 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: think everybody is comfortable with that, and then you know 385 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: that the next step is, you know, running backs, wide receivers, 386 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: what's the what's the flavor that this coaching staff is 387 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: look and for because as we know, successful runners, successful 388 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: receivers come in all shapes and sizes, sizes, it's just 389 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: a matter of you like chocolate, vanilla, strawberry, what's your flavor? 390 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: And that's really what we're gonna have to figure out 391 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: here over these next couple of months. You go into 392 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: the two thousand twenty one season. Yeah, it was very 393 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: tough for the scouts not being able to come to 394 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: Flooring Park for training camp. That's extremely hard because a 395 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: lot of guys their used to structure in their life 396 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: and being able to set a schedule and now you 397 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: have to change that. Where we couldn't see our team 398 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: in person. And then when you know, the college decided that, 399 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, when the NFL n C double A decide 400 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: that we cannot take visits on the school, you know, 401 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: it changes things because now that is when you have 402 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: to you know, the world of Zoom and Team Microsoft 403 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: calls became a part of our life and so you 404 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: gather all the information with schools setting up Zoom calls 405 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: where they have you know, either their pro liaison and 406 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: support staff talk about the players and um, you know 407 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: then and then allowing us to go to the games 408 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: was huge because now we can at least, you know, 409 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: go to as many games if if you feel comfortable, 410 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: and that was something we gave our scouts. If you 411 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: feel comfortable attending the game, then go to the game 412 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: to get the body types on the players. But but 413 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: you really have to rely on the years that you've 414 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: spent in the scouting world as far as developing relationships 415 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: within schools where you can call certain people to get 416 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: critical information that you know, Joe and uh Robert's gonna 417 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: need as we make the decision on the type of 418 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: player we're gonna draft, do you sense more of an 419 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: urgency from the group of players who are down there 420 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: this year knowing that there is no formal combine this year, 421 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: it will be a little bit different. And then all 422 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: they have remaining after this is really Pro days. Yeah, absolutely, 423 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean these young men, they will say that practices 424 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: were very competitive. Guys got after it because they know that, yeah, 425 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: there won't be a buying And then you also have 426 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: to wonder if the pro days will go through. Uh 427 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: there's there's you know, depending on the states, you know, 428 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: they might not allow them to have a Pro Day. 429 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: And so yes, this was critical for a lot of 430 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: young men that were here, not only at this All 431 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: Star Game, but the the other three All Star games 432 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 1: of Tropical Bowl, College Greadiron Showcase, and the Hula Bow 433 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: that took place this week as well. Uh, this is 434 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: very critical for them to go out and and and 435 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: you know, get verified measurements, get a chance to speak 436 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: with the other teams in the league, and and um, 437 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: you know, also show what they can do on the 438 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: football field. You got a new head coach and Robert 439 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: Sala and a couple of new coordinators that means new systems. 440 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: Jeff All defensive signal caller for the Jets coming up, 441 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: and Mike Lafleur comes over from San Francisco. What does 442 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: that mean to you guys as scouts, as you get 443 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: acclimated with the new staff and the systems they run, well, 444 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: the most important thing is that you know the vision 445 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: that Joe Douglas has for us is the type of 446 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: players that we're looking for as far as you know, 447 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: tough athletic guys that love the game, that will impose 448 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: their will on you each and every week. We're still 449 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: looking for those type of guys that that are smart, 450 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: that that are willing they want to win. We're gonna 451 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: look for those critical factors that we we rate each 452 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: and every week that we we go through each school 453 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: that we visit again through Zoom or Team Microsoft. So 454 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: that's that's important. But at the same time, as as 455 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: we go through this process, we'll get a chance to 456 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: meet with the coaching staff and from a player description standpoint, 457 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: you know what they're looking for, what style of defense 458 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: they're going to run, what style of offense they're going 459 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: to run. Uh, we'll have that time to meet with them, 460 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: especially with there being no combine, We'll have plenty of 461 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: time maybe in February or in March to visit once 462 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: Robert completes his coaching staff as to you know, the 463 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: type of players that they're looking for. What's the next 464 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: stup for you guys after you leave Mobile Alabama Because 465 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: talking to Phil Savage and Rex talking about it, you 466 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: will have meetings again like you typically would, but again 467 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: it will be in the virtual reality. Yes that's true. 468 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: So right now that this next step is, you know, 469 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: scouts now are allowed to to make phone calls to 470 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: especially underclassmen, and so right now what the scouts are 471 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: doing is they're they're getting on the phones with some 472 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: of these young men to uh do further interviews on 473 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: these guys. If it's through the phone call or if 474 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: we set it up through a zoom call. We obviously 475 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: have to make sure that we're reporting this to the 476 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: to the league office and to what we're doing because 477 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: there are restrictions there. But we're doing that now. And 478 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: then mid February we will have the scouts set up 479 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: a team Microsoft where we'll just kind of really start 480 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: introducing the draft class to to Joe. I mean, I 481 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: know he's been really heavy into the pro side right now, 482 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: and uh now he's gonna start hearing about the college Slayers. 483 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm curious to know maybe after the process, and you know, 484 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: without giving away state secrets, is how do you evaluate 485 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: properly certain players and do you have to determine like 486 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: this guy is a little more of a projection than 487 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: this guy and therefore, you know, with with the Jets 488 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: draft capital, we either feel comfortable taking a guy like 489 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: this or on the other side, it's like, well, we 490 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: know who this guy is because he played, we saw 491 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: the progression. Therefore we'd like to take that player. So 492 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see what happens 493 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: between now early February and late April and the NFL Draft, 494 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: and we'll have you covered throughout the off season. And 495 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: of course free agency splits the difference here, so we'll 496 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: be covering free agency. We'll be covering everything here on 497 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: the official Jets Pot real quickly. Free agency schedules start 498 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: a March seventeen Stychastrics Day. Um, I wanted you to 499 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: talk briefly about the raft coverage we started here and 500 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: that you're working on with Damee Brugler the Athletics. Dane 501 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: Brugler wonderfully talented dude who happens to be a great guy, 502 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: by the way, and also, um, what's coming up on 503 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: the site this week because we're talking process right now, 504 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: but what happens to the Senior Bowl this week? That 505 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: caught Dane's I give us a couple of crumbs, and 506 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: then we'll go to New York Jets dot com and 507 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: and a separate podcast for the big meal. So to 508 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: your point, each week on New York Jets dot com 509 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: between now and the draft, there's a about a six 510 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: minute video piece where Dane Brugler of the Athletic breaks 511 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: down this week it's a Senior Bowl. And then you know, 512 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: we'll go position by position, and there's a couple of 513 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: different things like whenever he puts out a mock draft, 514 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: will go into detail on why he picked who he picked, 515 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: and you know, we'll take Twitter questions as well. And 516 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: then there's a podcast form of it, which is a 517 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: longer form of just the video piece, so it covers 518 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more depth than what you would just 519 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: see on New York Jets dot com. And then for 520 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl in particular, I mean the one big 521 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: guy that I think and I'm saying big because that's 522 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: a that's kind of foreshadowing here Wisconsin Whitewater guard slash 523 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: center Quinn Miners, and what Dane said, and you can 524 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: read the article that he put on The Athletic and 525 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: he talks about it on the podcast, is that for 526 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: Quinn Miners was originally not someone that was going to 527 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: be a part of the Senior Bowl. Then Landon Dickerson, 528 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: the Alabama center who used to play at Florida State 529 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: towards a c L and that opened the door for 530 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: Quinn Miners. And we've talked about this in the past. 531 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: Players use or can use the Senior Bowl as a 532 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: launching pad for their draft stock, and that's exactly what 533 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: Miners did. We think about a small school guy Wisconsin Whitewater. 534 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: Last year, Dane said that he had about a grade 535 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: somewhere between a six round pick a seven brown pick, 536 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: and some teams had him as priority free agents undrafted 537 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: free agents. And then after that we saw Quinn Miners 538 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: dominate this year or this week in the Senior Bowl. 539 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: And now Dane said he's potentially a top one pick. 540 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: So he basically took advantage of the opportunity and now 541 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: he's gone. He's made himself some money, no doubt about it. 542 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: And that's just one of the guys that really showed 543 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: out in Mobile. So yeah, well I'm excited for the 544 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: podcast and also read about Dane's winners from the week, 545 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: and you mentioned Alabama before I heard the quarterback from 546 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: Alabama had a pretty good week as well. So Mac 547 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: Jones is Dane didn't talk about Mac Jones on the podcast, 548 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: but Mac Jones I think was Dane was saying that 549 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: or writing about how Mac Jones was interested to see 550 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: what he looks like without having his weapons on the outside. 551 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: Davante Smith. DeVante Smith wasn't Mobile, but he didn't participate 552 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: in practice or the game, so without him, without Jalen Waddle, 553 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: and what would he look like? And I think all 554 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: signs showed that, you know, it looks like a pretty 555 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: good quarterback. So I mean today, before we started recording, 556 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: I saw a Twitter clip where Matt Jones was on 557 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football and he was asked about potentially what 558 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: his thoughts were going fift over all of the Patriots 559 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: because Nick Saban and Bill Belichick are friends. So I'm 560 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: not saying that's gonna happen, but I think there's some 561 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: some steam there. I know Jim Naggy, the executive director 562 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: was saying to Mac Jones, like, this is your opportunity 563 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: to put yourself in the conversation or at least leap 564 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: frog some of the guys after Trevor Lawrence, because none 565 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: of those guys are seniors. So this is your opportunity 566 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: to perform live in front of scouts. And I think 567 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: that he all all signs showed that he did a 568 00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: good job. Well, yeah, for plenty more on that, get 569 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: over to Ethan the Dame. But yeah, I just get back. 570 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: I love it that the player of the week in Mobile, 571 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: Alabama is a kid from Wisconsin, Whitewater, and he's a center, 572 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: an interior player with a crop top two. You see 573 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: you see the crop top photos. Oh yeah, it takes 574 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: me back a few years ago too. Not that much 575 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: of a small school because Pittsburgh is an a C 576 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: C school, But Aaron Donald. There was some buzz about 577 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and Mobile Alabama. I don't know if anybody 578 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: could have predicted that he'd become the most dominant defensive 579 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: player in football. But sometimes, yeah, yeah, sometimes that that 580 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: the smoke really starts coming out in Mobile and you 581 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: find out more about the players. There's just one step 582 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: in the process. Dane did compare Quinn Miners to a 583 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: current NFL center. Small school guy went to the Senior 584 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: Bowl and then since was a mid to late round pick. 585 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: Since turned into one of the NFL's best centers. And 586 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: if you want to hear the answer, you gotta tune 587 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: back in on Thursday. And that's all we happened. Yeah, 588 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: a little plug, A little plug, that's all we have 589 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: here on this edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered 590 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. We'll be back next week. Like 591 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: we said, e A and I break down all things 592 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: off season for the Jets, and of course this week 593 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: we heard from Rex Hogan, John Carr, and Phil Savage 594 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: from Mobile