WEBVTT - Training Camp Stock Risers

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into lounge. I'm Ryan Mink here with Garrett Downing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are going to talk about who has improved

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<v Speaker 1>their stock during Ravens' training camp so far. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still early. We haven't even gotten to the first

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<v Speaker 1>preseason game, which will kick off Saturday at Mt. Banks Stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've seen about almost two weeks of practice now.

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<v Speaker 1>The pads have come on this past week. There's been

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<v Speaker 1>some high intensity practices as this team gets prepared for

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<v Speaker 1>that preseason opener. And Garrett, we'll start with a player

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is generating maybe the most buzz of

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<v Speaker 1>anyone at Ravens training camp, and that's rookie wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>Jacoby Lane.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't go anywhere in Baltimore right now without somebody

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<v Speaker 2>stopping and asking, how's Jacoby Lane looking?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he really as good as advertise?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the hype reel all this stuff, and my feeling

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<v Speaker 2>on it is that the excitement around him, based on

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<v Speaker 2>what I've seen in practice is justified. He has been

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<v Speaker 2>better than advertised. He's making seemingly a play a day.

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<v Speaker 2>And the if you were to just stack up, if

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<v Speaker 2>you power ranked, give me the ten best plays of camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacobe lane probably has like eight of them, and so

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<v Speaker 2>he's delivering like these highlight reel plays.

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<v Speaker 3>He's doing it with consistency.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's doing it against the first team defense in

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<v Speaker 2>many occasions on many occasions, and he's put himself in

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<v Speaker 2>a position where I think he's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>starter or like a one to a starter this year,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on what the packages are that they want to

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<v Speaker 2>run on offense, but in three receiver sets, like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think he has done enough to show that he is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in that top three receiver group.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's not quite decided yet. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Devantees Walker is still going to fit a lot of runtime.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Zay Flowers and bait Rashad Bateman obviously are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see a lot of action. It's too early for

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<v Speaker 1>me to say, oh, I'm gonna squarely put him ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of Devonte's well in this pecking.

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<v Speaker 2>Order here, I guess I would says he's done a

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<v Speaker 2>better way to put it rather than a starter piece.

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<v Speaker 2>He has done enough to show that he is going

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<v Speaker 2>to have a role on offense this year. He is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely going to have a roll on off.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and I think I feel comfortable saying it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bigger role than I envisioned even two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago before training camp began. He's been a quick

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<v Speaker 1>study and he is an extremely talented player that you know.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen the highlights from his college tape of making

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<v Speaker 1>these highlight real catches and you're like, well, can you

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<v Speaker 1>do that in the NFL. Well, he's done it in practice,

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<v Speaker 1>at least practice is different from a game. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>done it against some pretty darn good corners, including Marlon Humphrey, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so he definitely has momentum. I think that is real.

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<v Speaker 1>The talent is real. He has a lot more to

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<v Speaker 1>momentum to build and a lot more to improve on

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<v Speaker 1>to become a guy who consistently makes plays like that

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL games. But gosh, you can't love. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>not love what you're seeing so far from him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he is proving that the sky He

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<v Speaker 1>has sky high potential.

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<v Speaker 2>What I like is that it's not just like a

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<v Speaker 2>one trick pony in that like, oh man, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>great speed and he's just getting behind everybody or while

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<v Speaker 2>he can go up and make contested catches, Like to me,

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<v Speaker 2>he's running a complete route tree. He's making plays on

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<v Speaker 2>deep balls, he's making plays on short routes.

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<v Speaker 3>He's made some of these.

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<v Speaker 2>Highlight reel catches. Like it's the collection that really has stood.

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<v Speaker 3>Out to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Ravens talked, Zay Flowers talked about this for

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Bateman talked about it is how they're using receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>They're moving them around a little bit. It's not just

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<v Speaker 2>so defined as you're the outside receiver, you're the slot receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Movement and Jacobe Lane seems to be comfortable in all

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<v Speaker 2>the different ways that he's being deployed. He doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>like he's out there trying to figure out what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's the thing you worry about as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 2>like do you know what you're doing? He knows what

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing and that's allowed him to play fast, to

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<v Speaker 2>make those plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Decklan Doyle did say that Jacoby came up to him

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<v Speaker 1>after one of the practices last week and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know what I screwed up on, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's not like he's he's making not making

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<v Speaker 1>any mistakes yet He's a rookie, right, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>a very detail oriented offense. But the fact that he's

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<v Speaker 1>learning from those mistakes, that he's recognizing those mistakes immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>that's already a good sign. I think what stood out

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<v Speaker 1>to me are some little things about him that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>impressed with. And I'll specifically reference Sunday's practice that I

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<v Speaker 1>was here for, and one was his first catch up

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<v Speaker 1>practice was like a fifteen to twenty yard er working

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<v Speaker 1>against Marlon Humphrey. Tight coverage by Marlon, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>liked that Jacoby worked back for the ball. He could

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<v Speaker 1>sense that Marlon was in his hip pocket and he

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<v Speaker 1>came back to the quarterback to make that catch. If

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't do that, I think Marlon probably breaks up

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<v Speaker 1>that pass from reaches around and breaks up that pass.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of just a savvy, almost veteran thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You see that all the time on NFL broadcast when

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching his Oh man, look at him. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>how to work right for the ball, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie doing that. And I was like, oh, nice

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<v Speaker 1>heads up play there. The other one blocking on the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an outside Derrick Henry run and Jacoby's blocking

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<v Speaker 1>on the perimeter against the corner. That really allowed Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Henry to get more yardage out of that that run

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<v Speaker 1>that he maybe otherwise would have. That's gonna get him

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<v Speaker 1>on the field more too. Coaches going like that, Coaches

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<v Speaker 1>love that. And we've seen his willingness to block. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw him blocking Zyeon Young, throwing his nose in there

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<v Speaker 1>and getting after a big outside linebacker, and so little

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<v Speaker 1>things like that are what encouraged me that to your

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<v Speaker 1>earlier point, that it's not a one trick pony kind

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<v Speaker 1>of situation, that he is becoming this complete receiver and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just oh he's a situational guy. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>use him in red zone packages. We're gonna use him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in go balls down the sideline to draw

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<v Speaker 1>pis and make some big contested catches. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of all When you saw his college stats

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<v Speaker 1>and he led the nation in touchdowns two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Elija Thrat did it last season, then you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are red zone threats, they're gonna be situational players.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jacobe Lane is already proving that he's more

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<v Speaker 1>than that. He could be more than that, even as

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie. Yeah, and so I think that's what gives

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot of encouragement about him. I'll also say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just buzz from media members. Yeah, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna say yeah Jameson Hensley. I mean he tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>that he hasn't seen a rookie have a training camp

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<v Speaker 1>like this in all of his years covering the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>That's from a veteran reporter. You've seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>training camps.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 1>For him to say that means something. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just the reporters, it's coaches, Declan Doyle comparing him to

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<v Speaker 1>his hands to Michael Thomas. Ye right, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>great receivers in his generation who got off to a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy fast start in his career, then four straight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>yard seasons to begin his career. Yeah right, Like, and

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<v Speaker 1>coaches are usually pretty wary of really hyping a rookie, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's usually the all right, pumped the brakes, everybody, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's training game. We're all exciting, pump the brakes. The

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<v Speaker 1>kid's got a lot of letc Like Deckam Doyle thrown

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<v Speaker 1>out there that says something, Right, it's former greats like

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Thomas, you know, like like these other great players

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<v Speaker 1>who keep looking at Jacoby and being like, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>kid's something, He's going to be something like it's teammates,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Elijah Surratt said, it's like he's effortlessly good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. That doesn't mean Jacoby Lane's

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<v Speaker 1>not putting an effort. He is, but like he just

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<v Speaker 1>makes it. He makes plays that way, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes a look at for this, I look at like

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<v Speaker 2>the what his teammates, That's what I stood out to me,

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<v Speaker 2>teammates on both sides of the ball. We sat down

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<v Speaker 2>with Marlon Humphrey on the podcast and he talked about

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<v Speaker 2>how he's just been incredibly impressive. He joked like at

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<v Speaker 2>one point it felt like he was standing on his back.

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<v Speaker 2>He went up and caught the ball so high, standing

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<v Speaker 2>on his shoulders. And Derek Henry has talked about how

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<v Speaker 2>good he's looked. And then on the defensive side, Marlin has,

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hawkins has, So it's like this consistent drumbeat of

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<v Speaker 2>players who are praising everything he's doing. And there was

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<v Speaker 2>a play with on Sunday where he made a nice

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<v Speaker 2>catch along the sidelines and then him and Derek Henry

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<v Speaker 2>kind of celebrate. Henry runs down the field to jump

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<v Speaker 2>up and they celebrate together, like he's got buying from

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<v Speaker 2>his teammates. And the other last point I'll make on

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<v Speaker 2>Jacoby is jesse Minter talked about how he had a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with Lamar of like test him kind of in

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<v Speaker 2>training camp, of see put it in some spots, see

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<v Speaker 2>if you can go get it, See how we respond

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<v Speaker 2>to an tested catches, Like this is what training camp

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<v Speaker 2>is for. You want to see how guys can handle it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how you build chemistry. And so Lamar has

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<v Speaker 2>thrown it up there at times and like let's see

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<v Speaker 2>if you can go get it. Jacoby has been able

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<v Speaker 2>to go get it. And I think that all of

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<v Speaker 2>those things helped build the chemistry and the trust that

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar is gonna have in him.

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<v Speaker 3>And like we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing with Lamar, Yeah, if he trusts you, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>keep throwing to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. I've seen Lamar's Sunday Lamar and Jacoby frequent conversations

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<v Speaker 1>between the two of them. Lamar was really Zay Flowers

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<v Speaker 1>didn't practice on Sunday, but a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple conversations with Seoan Bateman and Jacoby Lane, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and when you're when you're getting reps with the ones,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have your star quarterback pulling you into the

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<v Speaker 1>side and talk talking to you and giving you tips

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, going back and forth about different routes

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<v Speaker 1>and what he wants to see. All good things for

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie third round pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, totally agree.

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<v Speaker 2>So the hype train like has left the station on him,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's warranted and I think that the

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<v Speaker 2>next step for him will be how does he do

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<v Speaker 2>in these preseason games. I think most Ravens fans when

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<v Speaker 2>they come to the game and mp MT Bay Stadium

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday against the Eagles, or they turn on turn

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<v Speaker 2>on the TV, they're gonna want to see Jacobe Lane.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's gonna be who they are most excited to

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<v Speaker 2>watch in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, it was wild on Sunday, just on the sideline

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<v Speaker 1>and kids are screaming Jacoby Jacob like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't often see a third round rookie pick, like the

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<v Speaker 1>kids are yelling for.

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<v Speaker 3>Him getting the star treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's it's I mean, it's cool. And I

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<v Speaker 1>asked the kids, I was like, is he one of

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite players he's there. Yeah, of course we see

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<v Speaker 1>the highlights.

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<v Speaker 2>If he can keep this up, he is he is

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<v Speaker 2>definitely going to be a star. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>in Baltimore and around the league, and he is.

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly comfortable in that environment.

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<v Speaker 1>His personality lends himself the social media presence all that

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<v Speaker 1>makes him like even a young fans favorite player, right,

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<v Speaker 1>He just connects really well with young fans in particular.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally agree. So, uh, good start to him.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we would agree he's the first guy

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<v Speaker 2>in the notebook.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're talking about stock up. Who else has stood

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<v Speaker 3>out to you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with Tyler Loop the kicker. Second year

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<v Speaker 1>kickers has been really good over the weekend, made every

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<v Speaker 1>one of his live field goal attempts. He had multiple

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<v Speaker 1>fifty plus yarders in practice. Sunday. The offense kind of stalled.

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<v Speaker 1>It had an uneven practice, I would say on Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>in part because of some you know, it was false

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<v Speaker 1>start penalties. They had some penalty issues. You just more

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<v Speaker 1>yellow flags than you'd like to see, which back then

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<v Speaker 1>put them in kind of negative scripts down in distance wise.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Tyler Loop was the got a lot of opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the byproduct, and he made the most of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what you want to see, of course with

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Loop because of how last season ended. Really you're

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for clutch, high pressure situations. That's where he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to prove that he's beyond that. And we all know

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<v Speaker 1>he's a talented kicker, he's a really good kicker. Until

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<v Speaker 1>we get those situations, and I think everybody's going to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hold their breath a little bit. But all

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<v Speaker 1>you can do is make the kicks that you're given

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<v Speaker 1>in training camp, and for the most part, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Loop has done.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Raves have tried to simulate those situations end

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<v Speaker 2>of practice, fifty push ups on the line, that type

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. And I'm not going to sit here and

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<v Speaker 2>say that's the same type of pressure as you feel

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the season in Pittsburgh with the season.

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<v Speaker 3>On them, But like, the best you can do is

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<v Speaker 3>what you can do in this environment.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think I agree that the test for

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<v Speaker 2>him is going to be how you do once you're

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<v Speaker 2>back in that game situation, how you respond late game situation,

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, and you're not going to know that

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<v Speaker 2>until you know it. And I think that all the

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<v Speaker 2>early indications on him in training camp have been positive,

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<v Speaker 2>which is all you can hope for at the time

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<v Speaker 2>of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. All right. Next player I'm going to point to

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<v Speaker 1>is safety Jalen Hawkins, And you know he's been in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of some collisions here, one with with Zay

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<v Speaker 1>Flowers that sent him off early earlier with a quad

0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:42.080
<v Speaker 1>confusion for Jay Flowers, and then another one with Rashad

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<v Speaker 1>Bateman in Sunday's practice where I mean he it was

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty big hit over the middle when Rashaw went

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<v Speaker 1>up to make that play. Now, you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>up and you want to protect your players, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Jalen Hawkins. I know Jalen and Hawkins isn't

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<v Speaker 1>going out there trying to hurt guys, you know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think that you see that this dude's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hit, and I think he's gonna be a force

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<v Speaker 1>on the back end of this defense. And Jesse Minner

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<v Speaker 1>was asked like, do you have to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Jalen about some of these hits, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>like he doesn't want to put that on Jalen like

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<v Speaker 1>even in practice, of course you're trying to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of your teammates, but it's bang bang, And like he

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<v Speaker 1>likes that Hawkins is there to make up play and

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<v Speaker 1>when in games situations he would be leveling some dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I like that from Jalen Hawkins. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen Kyle Hoilton is a very physical player who

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<v Speaker 1>just we've seen him destruct blocks near the line of

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<v Speaker 1>scrimmage unlike any other safety in the league, to make

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<v Speaker 1>tackles for loss and just create disruption on the back

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<v Speaker 1>end of the defense, kind of that roving hitting safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we don't see Kyle Hoilton in that role, or

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't at least I think he might do more

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But Jalen Hawkins I think could bring some

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<v Speaker 1>more of that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's around the ball a lot, he plays physical. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we all knew when the Ravens drafted him about

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<v Speaker 2>the production he had from a takeaway standpoint led the

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<v Speaker 2>Patriots last year. Like we've said that line like a

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<v Speaker 2>hundred times and whenever talking about Jalen Hawkins. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I fully appreciated or was totally aware of

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<v Speaker 2>just how physical he could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, And I've seen that at practice.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to to the point like you don't like

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<v Speaker 2>seeing him in Zay Flowers collide. That makes your your

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<v Speaker 2>stomach drop a little bit when you see that. Once

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<v Speaker 2>you get into the season and you're delivering some of

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<v Speaker 2>those hits against you know, posing teams, I like that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. But I think that he plays with the style,

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<v Speaker 2>he has the knack for the football. He's around the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>I want safeties that are around the ball a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what he is, ye. And so I've been

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<v Speaker 2>impressed with him, and I think he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a really important piece. Like him, is there there's no

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<v Speaker 2>better safety trio in the league right than Kyle Hamilton,

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<v Speaker 2>Malachi Starks in Jalen Hawkins.

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<v Speaker 1>Like tough tough to find one better.

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<v Speaker 2>One, ye then that especially when you have Kyle, who

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<v Speaker 2>I think we both agree is probably the best safety

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<v Speaker 2>in football. And Malachi is also a guy that we

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<v Speaker 2>could probably put on the list of who's look good

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<v Speaker 2>in camp so far stock up, everybody's talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>he could be one of the best safeties in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>So those three, I think are going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>strength of this team. And if the Ravens defense is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be as good as we think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>They will be a strength of the team, and Jalen

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<v Speaker 2>Hawkins is going to be a big reason why.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, absolutely agree. Let's stick with safety, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with KeAndre Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, let's get another one. I'm talking to the other three.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the deaths. Let's talk about the fourth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And KeAndre I think that all of us thought

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<v Speaker 1>he could he could be really a special team standout

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<v Speaker 1>if he continued the momentum that he built during his

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<v Speaker 1>rookie season and really kind of take over a leading

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<v Speaker 1>role on the special teams units, which he certainly can.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've been really impressed with what he's done defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean multiple interceptions. Now, he got one off snoopunt

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<v Speaker 1>Lee during Sunday's practice. Just I mean it was a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quick throw, it got out pretty fast, and Kandra

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson just broke on the ball immediately and undercut the

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<v Speaker 1>receiver to make the pick. And so you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>getting interceptions, making plays, does anybody have more than Kandre

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson to this point in training camp, I'm not so sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to me that you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have depth. We talked about that the Ravens are going

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<v Speaker 1>to use a lot of three safety looks. Well, knock

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<v Speaker 1>on wood, if if anybody were to go down for

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<v Speaker 1>any amount of time, if KeAndre Jackson's out there making plays,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to really change what you're doing defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>Plug him in. He's the next guy up right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to tweak what you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>game plan wise with a heavy three safety rotation. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Kandre Jackson is proving yeah, he's he you

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<v Speaker 1>can rely on him if called up.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, similar to how we talked about Jalen Hawkins. From

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<v Speaker 2>a physical standpoint, that's one of the strengths of Candre

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson's game, Like he just he does not shy away

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<v Speaker 2>from contact. I think he seeks it out and he

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<v Speaker 2>plays with this like relentless motor. And that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>think caught the coach's attention last year's Like, man, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy just plays hard. He's around the ball like there's

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<v Speaker 2>no quit in him. And that's what coaches, especially like

0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.800
<v Speaker 2>from a special teams player, undrafted rookie, like how do

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<v Speaker 2>you find your way onto the field, Just have like

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<v Speaker 2>this relentless motor be around the ball and like no

0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.480
<v Speaker 2>quit attitude, and that's what he brings, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>think that he would have that same mentality. He definitely

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<v Speaker 2>would have that same mentality if he gets called into

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger role on offense. And I like him as like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think he brings energy. That's the thing about

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<v Speaker 2>when I think of Candre Jackson, I think of like

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<v Speaker 2>a big, physical safety that brings energy, yep. And I

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<v Speaker 2>like guys that you want guys to embody that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've been impressed with him all the way through. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, Like I always just in my head envision

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<v Speaker 2>perfect health for everybody any across over the course of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. So like, I don't know what the role

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<v Speaker 2>will be for him on defense. I kind of hope

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<v Speaker 2>that it's not that significant just because the guys who

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<v Speaker 2>are ahead of him continue to stay healthy and play

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<v Speaker 2>as well as we just talked about. But if he

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<v Speaker 2>does need to play, if he does need to step

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<v Speaker 2>into the lineup on defense, I think he's ready. And

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<v Speaker 2>then from a special team standpoint, I think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be one of the best special teamers on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>And like you look at the you look at the

0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Ravens history, They've always had a guy or two who's

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<v Speaker 2>like the leader of the special teams unit. Anthony Levine

0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.600
<v Speaker 2>is a perfect example. Now he's the coordinator of the group,

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<v Speaker 2>and so like, who's gonna be that special team's leader.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he Andre Jackson could step into that role

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<v Speaker 2>this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I totally agree. I'm keeping in the secondary. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stick with a cornerback this time, which one Okay

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<v Speaker 1>TJ Tampa. DJ has just quietly just had another really

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<v Speaker 1>strong offseason. I thought he was one of the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>better training camp players last year and then just saw

0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:03.080
<v Speaker 1>he saw defensive action certainly more last year than he

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<v Speaker 1>did as a rookie. But the way he's playing in

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<v Speaker 1>training camp this year, I think that he could work

0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.360
<v Speaker 1>into a significant role in that rotation. I mean, obviously

0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Nate Wiggins is a guy, Marlin's the other starter, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have cheetoh Ouzie, who again is another starter.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jesse Minter with the Chargers rotated his corners, I

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<v Speaker 1>think at a higher rate than what we've seen here

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore, where sometimes your corners are playing you know,

0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.000
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes they're playing one hundred percent or close to it

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<v Speaker 1>of the snaps. Now, they did have a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a rotation last year with Cheeto getting action in there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that there could be an even heavier

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<v Speaker 1>kind of four man rotation. Nate Wiggins is going to

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<v Speaker 1>play a lot, but a heavier four man rotation with

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<v Speaker 1>the way that TJ. Tampa's playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa has is he's playing well enough to show that

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<v Speaker 2>they should consider that for man rotation. Like it's like, Okay,

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:04.760
<v Speaker 2>this is a guy you might want to get on

0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the field more than you intentionally anticipated. So he had

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.639
<v Speaker 2>to punch out one day in practice. Like again, I

0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.960
<v Speaker 2>think the takeaway piece is going to be so important

0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:14.200
<v Speaker 2>for this defense this year.

0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:15.000
<v Speaker 3>If they're going to.

0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Take a step they needed, they need to force more takeaways.

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<v Speaker 2>And he did that on a play against Rashena a

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<v Speaker 2>Lee last week. Just perfect punch out. And so those

0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.400
<v Speaker 2>are the types of plays that you like to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I was I thought you might say Nate Wagans when

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<v Speaker 2>you were talking about players who have stood out. I

0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.560
<v Speaker 2>think Nate's had a good camp. I think there's been

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<v Speaker 2>some good battles. We talked about Jacobe. There's been some

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:38.879
<v Speaker 2>times that they've been matched up against each other. But

0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that Nate Wiggans overall has had a good camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Come up with the pick, survived contact from Jalen Hawkins

0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.159
<v Speaker 2>one day in practice. Actually, those two guys collide and

0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Nate came up with an interception and he had a

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<v Speaker 2>he had He's had multiple pass breakups over the course

0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.560
<v Speaker 2>of practice. I think he's been sticky in coverage. He's

0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.240
<v Speaker 2>talked about being healthy moving back. Seems like he's moving

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<v Speaker 2>really fluidly this year. So I think that he's just

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<v Speaker 2>in store for a big season, and I've seen that

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<v Speaker 2>so far in camp.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, here's the name for you. You're gonna like

0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:14.160
<v Speaker 1>this one. Adam Randall, the rookie running back. You've kind

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>of you've been on the Randall bandwagon from the start

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:20.000
<v Speaker 1>on board here. I've been impressed as pads have come on.

0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:21.760
<v Speaker 1>He's been a player that has stood out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what you would expect with a guy of

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<v Speaker 1>his size. I mean, you're talking about sixty three, two

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.119
<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty pound running back. Dude. This guy just

0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:34.199
<v Speaker 1>runs hard. Yeah, man, I mean it's it's impressive. He

0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.720
<v Speaker 1>reminds me a little bit of Gus Edwards. Yeah, I

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:40.400
<v Speaker 1>think it's a good one cut runner, get your foot

0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.200
<v Speaker 1>in the ground, getting north south. Big dude, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>run through arm tackles. One play on Sunday, I mean

0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.120
<v Speaker 1>he was stopped in the backfield by a defensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of shook that off, came around the corner for

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<v Speaker 1>a ten to fifteen yard gain, and I just think

0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that he's a player that wants the pads have come on.

0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.439
<v Speaker 1>You see and see Meencer talked about this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like when you're in thud, which is basically like

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of give the guy a bump.

0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.160
<v Speaker 3>Basically to step up from two hand touch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, to say, like you you're tackled, when you're

0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:15.679
<v Speaker 1>in thud, you blow it a play dead, you know

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.840
<v Speaker 1>when they get bumped. Well, when it's live tackling and

0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:20.879
<v Speaker 1>a player gets bumped and he doesn't get down, to're like,

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 1>oh okay, that he wouldn't. He would have been down

0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>on that thud actually, And Adam Randall's showing it's gonna

0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:29.199
<v Speaker 1>take more than a thud to tackle me. And so

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been impressed with the rookie running back.

0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:34.119
<v Speaker 3>Well. We talked about how TJ.

0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.919
<v Speaker 2>Tampa has played well enough that may give the coaches

0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:38.840
<v Speaker 2>something to think about. You do you find ways to

0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.439
<v Speaker 2>work him into the rotation. I think that's true of

0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Adam Randall. I think that he's done enough, and I

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 2>do think the preseason is going to be important for him.

0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.719
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be really exciting because he's probably gonna get

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of runtime. I mean a lot of runtime.

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 1>You've seen Derrick Henry I was I would not much,

0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 1>if at all, of Derrick Henry in the preseason. Justice

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Hill has proven everything he needs to prove in his

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:02.639
<v Speaker 1>career to this point, right.

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 2>I think for those two guys, I don't know how

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.680
<v Speaker 2>much you I mean, certainly Henry even Hill, I don't

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 2>know how much you need to see of him in

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:08.640
<v Speaker 2>the preseason.

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. Adam Randall here is a converted wide receiver

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to running back. He really a one year running back

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>at Clemson who is now coming into Baltimore looking to

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 1>establish himself. You give him a lot of snaps and

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you say, basically, you're in the lead back role. Let's

0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 1>see what Let's see how you handle this. I'm excited

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:25.879
<v Speaker 1>to watch Adam Randall this preseason.

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Every step of the process. For me, he has stood out.

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I thought he looked really good at rookie minie camp.

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I thought he looked good in OTA's I think he's

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.399
<v Speaker 2>just continued to look good over the course of training

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 2>camp pads on pass off like he just stood out

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:40.680
<v Speaker 2>to me. He runs hard when he gets the ball

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:43.879
<v Speaker 2>in his hands, like he runs with intent, and he

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 2>also catches the ball well again converted wide receiver. So like,

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I think there's gonna be plays and packages where he

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 2>has I mean, look, there's a lot of mouths of

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 2>feet on offense, So I don't think that Decklan Doyle

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 2>is gonna spend like too much time like then we

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.879
<v Speaker 2>dial up a whole package for Adam Randall. But I

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 2>think that when he's in the game, he can catch

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.159
<v Speaker 2>the ball out of the backfield and then turn up

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 2>field and get pick up ten yards.

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 3>He has that ability, and.

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 2>He can also run between the tackles like he's not

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 2>just a swing pass guy that can make things happen

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 2>when he gets the ball out in space like he

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 2>can run between the tackles. He has that size and

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 2>hard running ability. So he has shown enough to me

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 2>that you think about could he take more snaps from

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Justice Hill if he's looking as good as he has

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.919
<v Speaker 2>in camp, Like, could he force the coaches to say,

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.640
<v Speaker 2>let's just get him on the field more, especially as

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:36.240
<v Speaker 2>you think about the long season, like Derek of course

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 2>and Justice, like they're veteran running backs. You want to

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.959
<v Speaker 2>keep these guys fresh all throughout the year, and so

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:44.160
<v Speaker 2>you have a rookie running back that is showing real

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 2>potential and ability there. I think that he's going to

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.160
<v Speaker 2>find his way onto the field. And then the other

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 2>factor too is the Ravens have to decide do they

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 2>keep three or four running backs. Rashina Lee is the

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 2>other one who they have to see on the team.

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Is the office say, are what kind of role does

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 2>he have on this offense. That's something that they're going

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 2>to evaluate over the course of these preseason games. I

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.399
<v Speaker 2>think Rashin Alise also a really good special teams player,

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>so I think that he's going to definitely bring something

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 2>in that regard. Maybe this is maybe it's a starting

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 2>kick returner. But yeah, Adam Raynald to me, has been

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 2>a stand out since the time he got here, and

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that he may be a diamond in the

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 2>rough find for the Ravens in this draft.

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, I agree, let's go to the offensive line.

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 1>How about Danny Pinner at center. I mean, I think

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that when Ethan Postik was signed, a lot of people

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>pointed to it and said, all right, the Ravens answered

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the center question, here's a long time starting center to

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>plug in there. You know it's done. And Jesse Minner

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.640
<v Speaker 1>came on this very podcast and said, hey, it's still

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>a competition, you know, And and they the Ravens were

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>impressed with Danny Pincer and Javon Gwinn and these guys

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that they had already in house, and Postik was another

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>piece in that competition. And I think that we've still

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>seen Pincer get a lot of runtime with the first

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>team offense. Posik now he could still very well win

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the job and be the starting center week one. Keep

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>in mind he's working his way back from an achilles

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 1>into a serious Achilles injury, and so you know he's

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna need time to knock off the rust and get

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>up to speed as well as just with the offense, right,

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>learning the offense and whatnot. But I do think the

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.239
<v Speaker 1>fact that Danny Pinter is still very much in that

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>competition is a check mark in his favor.

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's early, and there's still there's you know, we're

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 2>just over a month out from week one yep, wow,

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 2>like almost there.

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I felt this was before.

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we had a conversation before training camp and

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 2>the question was is the starting center on the team

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>or not? This was before the Ravens signed Ethan Posick,

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 2>and I said yes, I felt like the starting center

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 2>was on the team because I felt like Danny Pinter

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 2>was gonna win that job. I still feel like the

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 2>starting center for week one is going to be Danny Pinter.

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Like, again, there's a.

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Lot of football left, but I think that he's looked

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>really good and I've been impressed and so it would

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 2>not surprise me at all if we go into week

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 2>one and he ends up being.

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 3>The starter for this team.

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Again, part of it is Post Sick coming back from

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 2>the injury and how does he feel after practice every

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 2>day and kind of gets his legs back under him.

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 2>And I still think that Post Sick, like, I still

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 2>think it's a really good signing and I think that

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 2>he could end up being the starter this year. But

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I just have been impressed with Danny Pinter. This has

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>less to do about Post sick and more to do

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 2>with Pinter in my mind, as a guy that like

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 2>has been looking for an opportunity. He has a chance

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>to win the job now, and I think that he's

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>done a really good job up until this point. All Right,

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 2>So let's take a quick break. When we come back,

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about some of the other news of the

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>week as well as what the Ravens want to see

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 2>over the course of this week of practice leave leading

0:27:55.720 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 2>into their first preseason game against the Eagles. Listening to

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 2>the Lounge podcast, We're coming to you from the Seat

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Geek Studio. So the big news from practice over the

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.719
<v Speaker 2>weekend was was the injury scare. We touched on it

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>early on Zay Flowers goes down least Saturday practice early

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:16.199
<v Speaker 2>after a collision with Jalen Hawkins. Jesse Miner said it

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 2>was a quad contusion, kind of a SyRI leaf there. Look,

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 2>whenever you see a player of lead practice early, not good.

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 2>When it's your number one wide receiver fresh off of

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 2>one hundred plus million dollar contract, it's really not good.

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.400
<v Speaker 2>And so I think that's kind of a dodge bullet situation.

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like wasay and you know, deep exhale when

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 2>you get that update from Jesse Menzer.

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>And jesse Minner said he expects him to be back

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>very soon. It could be the next day or two

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>or maybe three. But that nothing to be worried about

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>with Zay Flowers.

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>The good news there, Yeah, I mean that's just again

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 2>you see him leave and you get concerned immediately when

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 2>he's limping off the field, and so to find that

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 2>that's a minor situation is really good news news, and

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 2>like it's to be honestly, you don't want to have

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 2>these reminders, but it is kind of a reminder.

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 3>There's this thin line.

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Of like like getting the most out of practice and

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 2>also protecting each other and pulling back at the right time.

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Like it's all kind of a puzzle, and so it's

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to like you want to get better

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 2>in practice, but you also need to protect each other.

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 2>And jesse Mitzer touched on that, but you just don't

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.719
<v Speaker 2>want to see your star players limping off the field right.

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Another piece of news from this weekend's practices is the

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>defensive line, which we've seen it's been shorthanded for really

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>almost the entire summer. Obviously, nom thee Mattabkas back on

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the practice field, but he's still doing individual drills. You

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>have to be encouraged that, you know, there's been progress.

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>At least he's on the field right and so so

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>that's good. Kalais Campbell is now participating in some eleven

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>on eleven action in Sunday's practice. John Jenkins, another veteran,

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>has returned to eleven on eleven action and come off

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the pup list. So two big additions there. The next

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>piece of the puzzle will be Travis Jones and him

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>coming off the pup list. That is one that I

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>think is going to come over the next couple of days.

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Jesse Minner said, was encouraged that it's going to be

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>very very soon for him and and so that's a

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, Travis Jones is a player they gave a

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>big contract to contract extension to at the end of

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>last season, a player that really has the potential to

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>be one of the strongest defensive tackles in the league,

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and he reportedly suffered a pectoral you know injury, and

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>so getting him back on the field, then that would

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>allow you to kind of see the picture coming into

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>shape for this defensive line.

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the big question here, of course, is

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>still an omnibat of BK and it's to your point,

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 2>it's been good to see him just stay out on

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 2>the field. He's been on the fract field every day

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 2>and so that's been really encouraging. But you want to

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 2>see how he does he is he able to do

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 2>eleven on eleven work and just continue to ramp up

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 2>and so what does that ramp up look like? Have

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 2>not heard from him yet either, So at some point,

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, does he talk with the media and kind

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>of give an update in his words? That's the Ravens

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 2>have said that really since this injury happened almost a

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 2>year ago. Now Mattabik will speak to it, you know,

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 2>when he's ready, and so whenever that time comes, that

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 2>will be something that everyone's interested to hear. But if

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 2>this defense has this defensive line at full strength, then

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>like look out, like I think it's I talked about

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 2>how the secondary and the safeties could be the strength.

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Well up front with Kalais Madebike and Travis Jones, it

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 2>feels like a pretty good strength too, if those guys

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>are all healthy and playing at the level that they're

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>capable of. So I think as you get again we're

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 2>about a month out from the season. You want to

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>see things kind of round into form between now and then.

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>You want to see, like, Okay, how healthy are we

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna be? What's this group gonna look like? And and

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 2>fingers crossed that everything continues moving in the right direction

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 2>with that group as a whole, it'll.

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Be really important because the interior defensive lineman in this defense,

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a lot of stress put on them

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>to hold up against the run because you're playing with

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of defensive backs and so when you're playing

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit lighter upfront, potentially you're relying on those

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>defensive linemen to shut down the run. And and the Ravens.

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that's part of why they wanted these veterans.

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>These these are guys who know how to stop the run.

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>These aren't projects, and and seeing them get back on

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the field makes me more encouraged that they're gonna be

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>really strong against the run.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like Kalaias Campbell is about as defined as you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna as you're gonna get like the most non projects

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna find, and like and and and same goes

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<v Speaker 2>for like the rest of the guys too. Like that

0:32:56.240 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 2>defensive front they are, Like if they're again healthy, playing

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<v Speaker 2>at the level that they're capable of, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting there, and it's like a top flight defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think last year the absence of Nomne Mattabique

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<v Speaker 2>hurt this team more than people realized. Took him a

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<v Speaker 2>while to figure that out and probably never really fully

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<v Speaker 2>adjusted to his absence last year and all that he meant.

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<v Speaker 2>And so again, if he's able to play, if Kalais

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<v Speaker 2>and Travis Jones were able to be at the level

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<v Speaker 2>that we've seen from them, then like that's gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Be I think Travis Jones, you think another level, another level.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he led the team with five sacks. He

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<v Speaker 1>led the team in sacks last year, Yeah, five of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was he was banged up for a decent

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<v Speaker 1>portion of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>And getting sacks is not his specialty.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, but he had career highs and tackles, sacks,

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>tackles for loss, quarterback heads across the board, a career

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<v Speaker 1>highs And I still think there's another level to his game.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're gonna add you've added pieces on the edge

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<v Speaker 2>name Trey Hendrickson, yeah, exactly, So like that's gonna and

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<v Speaker 2>let's just say Matabik is able to play, like there's

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 2>just less pressure on Travis Shoan. So like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>could what's that five sacks become this year?

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<v Speaker 3>Could that be eight?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Possible?

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 3>I think it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, So a lot of encouraging things from Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>training camp as the team gets healthier and we see

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<v Speaker 1>more of these players on the field. As you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be another interesting week of practice as

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the team ramps up for the preseason game. Hoping to

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>get Skylar Thompson. He's one player dealing with a little

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.919
<v Speaker 1>bit of an issue that didn't practice Sunday. Jesse Miner

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>said it. They're hoping to get him ready for Saturday's

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<v Speaker 1>preseason game. A lot to look forward to this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have one more thing that yeah, well, just

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the game on Saturday, we are really

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>excited because for the first game of the season, even

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>it's preseason, anytime the stadium's back open again, super excited

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Also going to be an opportunity for fans to come

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<v Speaker 2>in and check out the new spaces at the stadium,

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<v Speaker 2>the new North Plaza, We're gonna have more on that

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<v Speaker 2>over the course of this week, so it'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to show fans the talent and these new areas

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 2>on that north plaza, which has been a multi year

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 2>renovation project that has been underway at Mt.

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Bak Stadium. This is kind of the crowning achievement of it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something that every fan is gonna be able

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 2>to experience, and we've got a sneak peek of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That area is awesome on the north side, right there

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of Raven's Walk as you're coming into

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 2>the stadium. Fans are gonna love it, and so we

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>can't wait to show that off in this game. And

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>again we got more coming on that later this week,

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<v Speaker 2>so stay tuned. As always, you can email us at

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<v Speaker 2>the lounge at ravenst NFL dot net. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for listening, and we will be back with you

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<v Speaker 2>again soon