WEBVTT - Rye Lane with Shelli Nicole

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<v Speaker 1>On the Bechdel Cast.

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<v Speaker 2>The questions asked if movies have.

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<v Speaker 3>Women and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,

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<v Speaker 3>or do they have individualism? It's the patriarchy, zeph and

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<v Speaker 3>best start changing it with the Bechdel Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Oi, it's the Roy Lane episode, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to participate in this.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that this is quite frankly disrespectful and I'll

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<v Speaker 5>say it problematic, leaving me out to when I just

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<v Speaker 5>want to apologize to the British community for what has

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<v Speaker 5>taken place.

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<v Speaker 4>On this show today.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the episode just ends hard cutout. No, I

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<v Speaker 6>thought it was funny, grow up Britz thinks. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 6>the Bechdel Cast. My name is Jamie Loftus.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Caitlin Derntae. This is our podcast where

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<v Speaker 1>we examine movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using the

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<v Speaker 1>Bechdel test simply as a jumping off point. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>though in it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, here's what it in it.

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<v Speaker 6>It is a media metric created by queer cartoonist Alison

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<v Speaker 6>Bechtel back in I Believe the eighties for her famous

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<v Speaker 6>comic collection Digs to Watch Out For, often called the

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<v Speaker 6>Bechdel Wallace Test because it was co created with her

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<v Speaker 6>friend Liz Wallace.

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<v Speaker 4>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 6>It was originally intended as a way of talking about

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<v Speaker 6>how little queer representation of queer women there was in movies,

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<v Speaker 6>but has since evolved to be compheaded to death. The

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<v Speaker 6>version that we use of this test requires that there

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<v Speaker 6>be two characters with names of a marginalized gender who

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<v Speaker 6>speak to each other about something other than a man

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<v Speaker 6>for two lines of dialogue or more. Should be a

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<v Speaker 6>meaningful interaction, not super worried. Today, we don't need to

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<v Speaker 6>get into it much further because today we don't just

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<v Speaker 6>have a wonderful movie to discuss. We have an incredible

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<v Speaker 6>returning guest.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, she's a culture writer. You've seen her

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<v Speaker 1>work in Architectural Digest Vogue as well as her substeck

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Shelley, and you remember her from such episodes as

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, what's that Detroit Buffalo?

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<v Speaker 4>Buffaloed Buffalo? Do you say Detroited?

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<v Speaker 1>I almost said Detroitters?

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<v Speaker 4>Detroitters?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great, the show that I still refuse to watch. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>look I guess I'll watch it. I've never seen it

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<v Speaker 2>and think it's funny to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll start anyway. It's Shelley Nicole. Welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, thanks for being here. Always a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I love the accent slipping out. Honestly, I

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<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 4>And we are talking about Rye Lane today. I'm so

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<v Speaker 4>excited you you introduced me to this movie. So did

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<v Speaker 4>I really? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's my favorite thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I will not start talking about it straight away. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>let you finish your statement.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, it's just it's it's so good.

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<v Speaker 6>And I know that all of our histories will be

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<v Speaker 6>relatively short because this movie came out very recently. It

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<v Speaker 6>came out in twenty twenty three, directed by Rain Allen Miller,

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<v Speaker 6>written by Nathan Brian and Tom.

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<v Speaker 4>Malia and Shelly. What's your history with this movie? How'd

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<v Speaker 4>you come across it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's the thing. So it was my You know

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<v Speaker 2>in movies where they're like they're about to start saying

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<v Speaker 2>a memory and then that the screen gets hazy, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening now, So in a hazy moment. It was

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<v Speaker 2>my first ever Sundance, and this was God, I think

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<v Speaker 2>Sundance that will be Sundance twenty twenty three, because I

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<v Speaker 2>went to twenty twenty four and I did not go

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<v Speaker 2>this year. Yeah, So it was twenty twenty three and

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<v Speaker 2>it was my first ever Sundance and I had asked

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who really loves film. Of course I knew about Sundance,

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<v Speaker 2>but I never dreamed that I I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>just never dreamed that i'd be there. Right like then

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<v Speaker 2>I got invited. I got into this like one program

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<v Speaker 2>where they invite like marginalized critics and they put you

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<v Speaker 2>up and all this kind of stuff, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>free reign to see any movies that I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great, you know, like the film programs and

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. But I made it a point not

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<v Speaker 2>to read too much into what the movies are about.

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<v Speaker 2>But I focused on the pictures and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>see as much black shit as I possibly could. So

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know about ry Lane. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>know all the history of it, which will like get

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<v Speaker 2>into with the cast and crew and all that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. I just saw two black people and I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that they were like smiling, right, and they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>like sad Or in Slavery period close, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, that feels like I should go. And

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<v Speaker 2>I went to go see it. It was like my

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<v Speaker 2>last film of that day, which was like my second

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<v Speaker 2>or third day, and I saw it in saw Lake

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<v Speaker 2>Versus in Park City because it was just like full up,

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<v Speaker 2>and immediately when it first started, I was like this,

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<v Speaker 2>this movie is going to change my life. I sat

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<v Speaker 2>smack center of it, and I was just like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is great. I saw it it played through. I gave

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<v Speaker 2>it like five million stars on letterbox immediately because I

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<v Speaker 2>am the person that takes that letterbox. As the credits roll,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care, and I knew that I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to write about it and make it like the star

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<v Speaker 2>of my Sundance coverage. But then two days later, I

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<v Speaker 2>was at Sudence for like seven days or eight days,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had kind of seen everything I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>see by day five. So I saw this movie three

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<v Speaker 2>more times, like god, and then they give you access

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<v Speaker 2>to it like digitally, especially like if you're like writing

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<v Speaker 2>about it and stuff like that, because they want you

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to really write about it. Went home

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<v Speaker 2>immediately after the first screening put it on while I

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<v Speaker 2>was like eating terrible food and Salt Lake City terrible takeout,

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<v Speaker 2>and was like watching.

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<v Speaker 1>It in bed.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it came out on Hulu and it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>come out in theaters, like not by me anyway in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, which is why I think I missed it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I have a lot to say about that, but yeah, continuous.

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<v Speaker 2>It was straight to Hulu, which was a surprise to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was also super happy about it because then

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<v Speaker 2>I meant I got to watch it whenever the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted came out on Hulu. Watched it immediately, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I reached out to search like Pictures who is

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<v Speaker 2>the distributor, And I was like, Hi, I would love

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<v Speaker 2>for you to give me money to show this to

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of black people in Chicago. And they did

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<v Speaker 2>the like they gave me, and they gave me like

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<v Speaker 2>they connected me with like a local person here, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you go to screenings and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's usually a representative in the city, and Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>is a pretty big movie city. So I'm lucky enough

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<v Speaker 2>reached out and I was like, I think I reached

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<v Speaker 2>I sent like four emails before I heard back and

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<v Speaker 2>then they think they were like okay, and they gave

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<v Speaker 2>me a bunch of money and I put together a

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<v Speaker 2>private screening for thirty I think black folks here in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I turned this one person's place called lit Bilex

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<v Speaker 2>to Candle Place into a living room because I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>it to be like when you just kick back with

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<v Speaker 2>your friends and you watch movie in the living room.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had like couches and all this stuff put

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<v Speaker 2>on this screening. It was really awesome. I specifically picked

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<v Speaker 2>the place that had windows that was on the street

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<v Speaker 2>so that when you walked by, people could see it

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<v Speaker 2>because I wanted people to take pictures and like, what's

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<v Speaker 2>this movie? Posted about it on Twitter, which I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have Twitter anymore, but I still have these posts, and

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<v Speaker 2>the writers were fucking with it. They were like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is so cool. They like responded, it was really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie just means like a lot to me. I

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<v Speaker 2>promised myself that I wouldn't overtalk this time. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happens funk away.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a story. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love this movie so much. I love this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this movie. I love this movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that makes me so happy, Jamie, what about you?

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<v Speaker 6>That is incredible? I nothing even remotely close. I wish

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know about this movie. I think that I

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<v Speaker 6>was gonna say, I was like, whoa, I really haven't

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<v Speaker 6>missed a lot of like movies in theaters that I've

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<v Speaker 6>been excited about in the last couple of years. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>surprised that I missed this, and it's because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>really theatrically in the US, and I think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it is kind of a stigma everywhere, but it often

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<v Speaker 6>ends up being true that straight to streamer movies are

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<v Speaker 6>like I don't rush to watch them as much unless

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<v Speaker 6>it's a lazy, sebt Christmas movie, and then I run

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<v Speaker 6>and I don't want.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like we're conditioned.

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<v Speaker 6>While it is in no way always true, but to

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<v Speaker 6>see them more as TV movies and not things to

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<v Speaker 6>like rush to see, which I think is a real

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<v Speaker 6>shame and crime in the case of this Boofy, because

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<v Speaker 6>I would have. I'm so jealous you got to see

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<v Speaker 6>it in theaters because it is just so enveloping but

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<v Speaker 6>also rewatchable, and the second you see you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>this is gonna be a comfort movie. For a really

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<v Speaker 6>long time. It's just like I really really really loved it,

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<v Speaker 6>and I am mad that it wasn't released theatrically because

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like this is the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 6>if it were released theatrically in the US, would even

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<v Speaker 6>if it didn't like do huge numbers, would have gotten

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of positive word of mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah yeah, and definitely would have given what I

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<v Speaker 2>like to call it is like the British Love Jones

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<v Speaker 2>with a happier ending, Like it would have definitely given

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of millennial black couple like comfort rom com.

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<v Speaker 2>But so many people like haven't really seen it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's still on Hulu but still haven't watched it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Also, I mentioned this to you over text the other day, Kitlin,

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<v Speaker 6>but I was like, oh, and I love when I

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<v Speaker 6>have a thought about a movie and then I read

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<v Speaker 6>reviews and someone much smarter than we also had the

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<v Speaker 6>same thought.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, we just covered the Before trilogy.

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<v Speaker 6>On our Patreon aka Maatreon, and so we just rewatched

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<v Speaker 6>that trilogy and like, there's so much of the first

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<v Speaker 6>movie and that trilogy that feels like present in there

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<v Speaker 6>where it's just I love a movie where two people

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<v Speaker 6>are walking around and falling in love. I've learned it's

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<v Speaker 6>just really really sweet, except this is like a much

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<v Speaker 6>more stylized, like more hard comedy in a way.

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<v Speaker 4>I really like it doesn't meander at all, Like I.

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<v Speaker 6>Was like blown away and I had all the notes

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<v Speaker 6>I needed after my first viewing, but I watched it

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<v Speaker 6>again because it's just very rewatchable.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so much fun. The performances are great, and I

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<v Speaker 4>can't wait to talk about it more.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, that's happy you dug it?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it was? It's yes, I loved it. Yeah, Kaitlyn,

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<v Speaker 4>what was your history with this movie?

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<v Speaker 1>I heard about it as we met via you, Shelley.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you mentioned it at the end of our

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<v Speaker 1>episode on Buffaloed aka the Detroiters, And I think I

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<v Speaker 1>said that because I know that you used to live in.

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit, right, Yeah, I'm from Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so I associate Detroit with you, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I just my brain.

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<v Speaker 2>The best thing anybody has ever said to me in

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<v Speaker 2>my whole life, I associate Detroit with you, is like

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<v Speaker 2>that's the point. So yes, I will like fight on

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<v Speaker 2>all of my bios to be like she is a

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<v Speaker 2>detroiter living in.

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<v Speaker 3>X y Z.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh yeah, sorry interrupt.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, I'm happy to pay you the compliment.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you mentioned it at the end of that episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, I didn't. I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of that. What's that? Because it, I think only got

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<v Speaker 1>a theatrical release in the UK, and so I looked

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<v Speaker 1>it up and I was like, okay, And then I

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<v Speaker 1>made a little mental note of that as like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be a movie we could cover later on

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<v Speaker 1>with Shelley and look at us now, look at us.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm so happy we're talking about it. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>So I looked it up and then I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>actor David Johnson in Alien What the hell is it called?

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<v Speaker 2>The New One? That's where I know I'm from.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, that's how I recognize him as well. It

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<v Speaker 6>seems like he's like on the verge of blowing up.

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<v Speaker 6>I want them to both be on the verge of

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<v Speaker 6>blowing up, please, But it seems like David Johnson definitely is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in the most recent Alien Romulus.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I haven't seen.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays one of the cyborg robot I forget what

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<v Speaker 1>they call them in the Alien franchise, but anyway, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's that. I was like, oh, that's the same guy

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<v Speaker 1>from that movie ry Lane, and then finally watched it

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<v Speaker 1>to prep for this episode, and I similarly really liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a big rom com head, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do like them when they feel grounded and they actually

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<v Speaker 1>have comedy in them, which most rom coms aren't grounded.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very like, look at this ridiculous premise that would

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<v Speaker 1>never happen in real life, and they don't have jokes

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<v Speaker 1>in them. They're not actually funny, they're just like tonally light.

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<v Speaker 1>But this movie has jokes. This movie feels grounded, and

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<v Speaker 1>I really dug it for those reasons.

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<v Speaker 6>Yay. I was also thinking, like, I've seen this like

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<v Speaker 6>bemoaned in pieces I've read on letterbox, but just in general,

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<v Speaker 6>how I feel like, especially since algorithms started deciding which

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<v Speaker 6>movies get made and which don't, there's been no shortage

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<v Speaker 6>of rom coms, most of which go straight to streaming,

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<v Speaker 6>but there has been a shortage of rom com leads

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<v Speaker 6>having actual chemistry. Like there's just so many rom coms

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<v Speaker 6>I can think of from the last ten years that

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<v Speaker 6>are like, well, this person is popular and this person

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<v Speaker 6>is popular. If we make them kiss, maybe it'll be good.

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<v Speaker 6>And it is rarely good and less the like, but

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<v Speaker 6>oh my god, this movie is the exception, the rare

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<v Speaker 6>exception Dad, where the two leads have incredible chemistry. It's

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<v Speaker 6>such a believable pairing and you can't help but root

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<v Speaker 6>for them in a way that I haven't felt in

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<v Speaker 6>a round common a really really long time.

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<v Speaker 4>We're back. Chemistry is back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to talk about this, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>excited that both of y'all like, actually dug it, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you are also like hella honest when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to movies that you fuck with and that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't. So I was kind of nervous because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of feel like you sometimes. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I overhype a film and then someone watches it and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, like five stars, and I'm like yes.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, so me, no, this movie is so it's

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<v Speaker 4>so special. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I was in a great mood and I watched it

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<v Speaker 6>at the beginning of a day and then again at

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<v Speaker 6>the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Same. It's good, just randomly for no reason. Weekly nice

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<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's take a quick break and then we'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back to do the recap, shall we in it? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're back in it, and sorry, I'm not gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>that go. Also, I watch a lot of staff Lets

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<v Speaker 1>Flats and the characters say in knit after like every sentence, And.

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<v Speaker 6>You turned me on as stath Lets Flats, Caitlin, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm eternally grateful.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I said, I was gonna watch and

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<v Speaker 2>did it, and now this makes me feel you have

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<v Speaker 2>to won't regret it? Okay? Well then yeah, okay, great

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<v Speaker 2>slid Okay, perfect, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The recap of Rye Lane. So we meet Dom played

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<v Speaker 1>by David Johnson in a bathroom stall at an art gallery.

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<v Speaker 1>He is crying over a recent breakup. He's like scrolling

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<v Speaker 1>through Instagram and looking at photos of his ex and

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<v Speaker 1>her new boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 4>He's wearing pink converses.

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<v Speaker 6>He's so like Tumblr boyfriend losing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, yeah, my god, emoting in pink Chuck Taylors.

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<v Speaker 2>With high vibrant colors just like it's Tumblr.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, fifteen year old me would have been shitting herself,

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<v Speaker 6>like just yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the costuming in general in this movie is

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<v Speaker 1>terrific because everything that Yaz is wearing and like her

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<v Speaker 1>accessories and shoes, and it's just incredible.

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<v Speaker 6>It's such a good balance of like the outfits are

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<v Speaker 6>incredible and they still look like people you would see

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<v Speaker 6>and actual people, Like you're like, oh, we probably actually

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<v Speaker 6>could get that outfit if we want to do, which

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<v Speaker 6>is great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I own everything that Dom is wearing, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I own those pink chucks you do, so, yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween costume. Anyway, So he's crying in the bathroom. Then

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<v Speaker 1>a woman named Yeah played by Vivian Apara comes into

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom and hears him crying, and they interact briefly

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<v Speaker 1>through the stall doors. She doesn't see his face, but

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<v Speaker 1>she does see his pink converse shoes. The art show

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<v Speaker 1>that they're both at is for Dom's friend Nathan's photos

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<v Speaker 1>of people's mouths, which his all of the galleries and

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<v Speaker 1>like the shows that we see of his are very

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<v Speaker 1>funny and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just very well done because like, I know so many

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<v Speaker 2>artists who are just like I don't know so many

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<v Speaker 2>artists like personally, but like whenever I see so many

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<v Speaker 2>artists like promoting something on Instagram or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>the shows, there's something that is like this, which is

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<v Speaker 2>so it Somehow I loved that show like I would

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<v Speaker 2>go to his show.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I it seemed fun.

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<v Speaker 6>And also it is so like I had it in

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<v Speaker 6>my notes, like it is so rom com canon that

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<v Speaker 6>they have to have a cute an at an art

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<v Speaker 6>gallery they had any rom Com If one of them

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't work there, they know someone who does.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just genre cannon.

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<v Speaker 2>And also like there will be a lot of this

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<v Speaker 2>that I do say, like throughout us talking about this film,

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<v Speaker 2>but putting blackness in those spaces, in this space of

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<v Speaker 2>a rom com, do you know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 2>that layered, like having this black artist who is still

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<v Speaker 2>very himself, but in this very black film featuring this

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<v Speaker 2>very black art with this black artist who is the

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<v Speaker 2>black listeners will get it, but like very black, you

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<v Speaker 2>get what I mean. Like, but putting those layers of

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<v Speaker 2>people into this world of rom com is so nice

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<v Speaker 2>because the trauma is not there. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>with blackness and in rom com they can be funny,

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<v Speaker 2>but then there's some something has bad, has to happen

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody somewhere sometime, and it just doesn't happen in

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<v Speaker 2>this movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone's going really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry spoil this movie is very happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dare you spoil? No, it's it's very true. And

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<v Speaker 1>because we've seen time and time again representations of like

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<v Speaker 1>a woman in a rom com works at a gallery

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<v Speaker 1>or works at a magazine, but it's like such a

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<v Speaker 1>white version of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Judy Greer is usually there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah she is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's shocking she doesn't pop up here. But but there

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<v Speaker 4>is a very famous actor who pops up in this

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<v Speaker 4>movie that you're like, wait, what shocking? So good? And

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<v Speaker 4>I like that he bravely looks like shit in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not look good at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Looks I was like, what happened there?

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<v Speaker 6>But maybe he just like he just breathed through hair

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<v Speaker 6>and makeup. He's like, I'm going in raw.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, I'm here. I got a few hours, so yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I want to know that story so badly.

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<v Speaker 6>But I feel like there's been a lot of comedy

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<v Speaker 6>movies that make commentary on rom com tropes in a

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<v Speaker 6>way that feels very, very kind of ham fisted in

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<v Speaker 6>the way that it does it. But everything about this

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<v Speaker 6>movie is so effortless, because like you were just saying, Kitlin,

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<v Speaker 6>like we're so used to seeing these very white tropes

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<v Speaker 6>in this genre of like the quirky white art gallery

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<v Speaker 6>director blah blah blah, And this didn't even occur to

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<v Speaker 6>me till the second viewing. But even the like quirkiness

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<v Speaker 6>of our main.

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<v Speaker 4>Characters are put on probably because they've watched too many.

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<v Speaker 6>Movies like it, and like, I just I loved it,

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<v Speaker 6>and it doesn't feel like it bangs you over the

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<v Speaker 6>head with it. It's just like, oh, this is something

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<v Speaker 6>that could actually happen, like yas being like I just

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<v Speaker 6>liked that.

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<v Speaker 4>You thought I was like a cool girl who among us?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I know, you just usually just really hope

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<v Speaker 6>you don't get caught in the line. But yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 6>just I can't say enough good things. But yes, anyways,

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<v Speaker 6>the movie starts at an art gallery.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and Dom is there because he's supporting his friend

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan in his mouth pictures. Yaz is there because she's

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<v Speaker 1>friends with Nathan's girlfriend Cass. Then Dom comes out of

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom and talks to Nathan, who admits that he

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<v Speaker 1>went to a party thrown by Dom's ex girlfriend Gea

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<v Speaker 1>and her new boyfriend Eric, so Dom feels very betrayed.

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<v Speaker 1>By his friend, which.

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<v Speaker 6>The more you learn about that situation, the more I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm really mad at him.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what the hell? What the hell? Indeed, then Dom

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<v Speaker 1>and Yaz kind of link back up. She sees his

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<v Speaker 1>pink converses and realizes it's the same guy from the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>so she kind of like strikes up a conversation with him,

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<v Speaker 1>though he doesn't realize that she recognizes him, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>But they leave the gallery at the same time and

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<v Speaker 1>they end up walking together. They cut through Rye Lane. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the name of the movie, market think because they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie takes place in different neighborhoods in South London.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that and like why the director wanted

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:14.600
<v Speaker 1>those to be the locations. But anyway, so they're walking

0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:19.639
<v Speaker 1>around these neighborhoods. Yes, asks Dom about himself. We learned

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<v Speaker 1>that he's an accountant.

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<v Speaker 6>She's like boring, and he's like, it's my dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Which, like, I think that's awesome too, the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>like this person, this black person gets to have an average,

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<v Speaker 2>normal ass dream of being an accounting and having a

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<v Speaker 2>regular ass life when going to his job and then

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<v Speaker 2>having his girlfriend and like having a family, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like just normal, standard, cool, average people dreams. I love that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was like a thing like a wrongcom trip.

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<v Speaker 6>I hadn't even thought about it in a long time.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's like the well I'm doing this now, but

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<v Speaker 6>what I really to do this?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, He's like, this is what I'm doing now, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's all I ever really want to do.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm pretty happy, I'm happy to say, right, which makes

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 6>his heartbreak even more sad because it's like he had

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<v Speaker 6>his life was the way he wanted it to be,

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<v Speaker 6>but he had to meet.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's just how it had to go.

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<v Speaker 2>He just had to.

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<v Speaker 6>I also love that, just the idea of like a

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<v Speaker 6>gender neutral bathroom being around meeting space. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's not commented on. It is just a gender

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<v Speaker 6>neutral bathroom. They're everywhere, you know. I just thought that

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<v Speaker 6>was really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I did too, and I'm glad you pointed that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus there's also some other like stuff that like they

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<v Speaker 2>usually hit us over the head with in films like

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<v Speaker 2>ones especially after like what twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, But

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<v Speaker 2>this whole like they just happened to meet that. No

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<v Speaker 2>one talks about it, No one has to say it again, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this guy with pink converses in the gender

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<v Speaker 2>neutral bathroom, and it's like, no, you knew that it

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<v Speaker 2>happened there and that was it, Like okay, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was so great.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a lot of recent movies that are

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<v Speaker 1>making attempts to include things like that are like really

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<v Speaker 1>like patting themselves.

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<v Speaker 6>On the back.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, it's a bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a potty, everybody relaxed, a shitter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that big idea.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's like, if your goal is realism, who would

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<v Speaker 6>be like here we are in the gender neutral bathroom,

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<v Speaker 6>Like right, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've learned that he's an accountant. We also learned

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<v Speaker 1>that he recently moved back in with his parents, I

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:40.439
<v Speaker 1>think because of the breakup. We learned that Yeah, works

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>as a fashion buyer, but her dream is to be

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<v Speaker 1>a costume designer for movies, TV entertainment. We learn also

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<v Speaker 1>that Dom is on his way to meet up with

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 1>his ex girlfriend for the first time since their breakup.

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<v Speaker 4>That is such a bad walk. I was really like

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 4>put into a very specific state of mind. You're like,

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 4>this is one of the most miserable walks of his life.

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.120
<v Speaker 4>How lucky that the love of his life is there

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<v Speaker 4>with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and so that's what he's on his way to do.

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Yes reveals that she also recently went through a breakup,

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 1>though for her she was the dumper rather than the dumpy,

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, yeah, he sucked and I walked away.

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And Dom is like, oh, that's so iconic. Good for you,

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, right right, She's like, yes, exactly, that's.

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 4>So me and I would do it again.

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 6>I just I love her. I've done that where you're like,

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm never gonna see this guy again. Why not be

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.160
<v Speaker 6>the coolest person in the world to this person will

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<v Speaker 6>never see again.

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:50.719
<v Speaker 1>And make up a huge fabricated story.

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's the person you end up in a long

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 4>term relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dom tells her more about his breakup, how he

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend cheating on him with his best mate Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>who will also be present for this meeting. To clear

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<v Speaker 1>the air, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Hate Eric, I hate Eric, I.

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Hate both of them.

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 6>Pile of rocks for brains in that air, everyone is

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.639
<v Speaker 6>I really like Dom has this and I mean this

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<v Speaker 6>in the nicest way.

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:26.120
<v Speaker 4>He has this like Charlie Brown quality, to him. Yes,

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 4>where he just like no one respects him and there's

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<v Speaker 4>no reason why. He's a very sweet person, and I'm

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 4>just it just feels like people are just yanking footballs

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 4>from beneath this guy. Left and right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hate bothom and I hate that he agreed

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<v Speaker 2>to this meeting, Like I hate that he's going here.

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I hated every second of it. I mean like loved, hated,

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 2>but like, why are you doing this? Because this was

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<v Speaker 2>not for him? This was one hundred percent for her

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 2>to make her feel better about what.

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<v Speaker 4>She did, and she's bringing Eric.

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<v Speaker 6>I would be like, even I would have enough dignity

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 6>to be like, well, no, you can't bring him.

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by all you can eat restaurant?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, have I Theraphy been to a place

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 6>like that. I had like a work functions that took

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 6>place at I think then MICUs. It was like it

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 6>was a Korean barbecue, but there are no a Brazilian

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 6>barbecue with the cards and it is one of the

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.239
<v Speaker 6>most stressful eating environments I've ever been in because I

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 6>was working Kitlin and was when I was working at

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.120
<v Speaker 6>the Comedy Theater in Boston, and it's like a very

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 6>male dominated space and they were competitively like getting.

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 4>The meat sweats. They were like, don't turn the card

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 4>to red.

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 6>And I was like one of two women there and

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 6>I was like, this is my nightmare. It's like men

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 6>trying to eat meat until they die to prove a point.

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 4>It was, Oh my god. It's a great place to

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 4>set a scene.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 6>I loved because it just adds tension of like, and

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 6>the most annoying person in this scene will be eating

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 6>meat the whole time.

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Why it's I mean, it adds to the humor. I

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>can't complain. So Dom and Yes arrive at this meeting

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>spot at this restaurant. She offers to go in with him,

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, no offense, but this is important and

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you're basically a random person, so no, thank you, fair

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And she says fair and they part ways. So Dom

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>goes in Gia his ex, and Eric his best mate

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>or formerly best mate.

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Let's hope.

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>So, but then is it not Eric who helps him move?

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Ye?

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Later in the it is so they're hanging out again.

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know that Eric is a puzzle to me.

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 6>He's a total cipher.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what is good? What is going on in

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 4>this man's head has to be nothing for anything. He

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 4>makes sense.

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 6>I do feel like I've met a handful of people

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 6>like this in my life, where he's like, well, I

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 6>like them both, so I guess without thinking about the

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 6>traumatic interpersonal stuff, He's like, what, they're both fine in

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 6>my book, they didn't do anything to me.

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Like he also gets fired for peeing in bottles and

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 2>leaving them in his work locker and then being like,

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 2>that's not what that is.

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>He's like, they're so political there, I can't believe it.

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 6>My brother had a roommate like that once. He had

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 6>a peepea bottle roommate pepe bottle. I'm wondering how common

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 6>an experience this is for CIS men, because when my

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 6>brother brought it up, he's like, it's happened to my

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 6>friend too.

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 4>I was like, what, Oh, but there's a lot of

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 4>peep bottle guys out there.

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I think I remember. Isn't like, what's the peepee bottle guy?

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Wait, it's Frank.

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 6>I think it's Frank, because this is the type of

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 6>guy that's out that we believe they walk among us.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Don't see that. That's terrifying. You could walk fast one

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and not even know it.

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's happened more times than.

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 4>One could be your friend.

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 6>I did did a guy once that had an emergency

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 6>bottle in his car and cause he had to pee

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 6>too much. And I'm just like, not suffer, suffer, I

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:14.959
<v Speaker 6>guess at the end of the just just suffer.

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 4>And also if that is so necessary, please don't tell

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 4>me about it.

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 6>No, but yeah, I like again, just like such a

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 6>good specific of like an he's.

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 4>A Peea bottle guy, and.

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 6>Of course and none of them ever think a thing

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 6>of it. They're like, it's good for the environment. And

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 6>it was like, no, that wasn't that Frank's thing, the.

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Peep bottle guys. Yeah, because he was making sun tea

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 2>he said, like rockets.

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he was like watering his plants with them,

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>something I forget.

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 4>But it's like a survivalist thing too.

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 6>I feel like it's this weird, hyper macho survivalist like

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 6>bear grills lived, like, don't do that.

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>At least in water World, Kevin Costner peas into this

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>apparatus that like filters his pee into drinkable water afterward, So.

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 6>We should do water I've never seen I've only seen

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 6>the live show at Universal.

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 4>Syd which I'm saying is not canon. That's really cool.

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>It takes the vibes from water World the Future film

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and really emulates them. Water World the movie is not

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>good and I hate Kevin Costner, so I have no

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>wish to cover water World, but I would.

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 6>It's my brother in law's favorite movie, which like whoa.

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 6>My cousin told me this. She like said it in

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 6>a low voice. She was like, she was like, it's

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:40.719
<v Speaker 6>Justin's favor movie. I was like, what She's like, I

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 6>don't know.

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I kind of want to watch it now. I've never

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 2>seen anything.

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Don't they drink pea in Dune? I haven't seen those mean,

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 4>oh you.

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Know they might. I kind of forget. I have seen

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the available Dune movies. Oh not the David Lynch one,

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>but the Dinny ones, and I could not tell you

0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a single thing that happens in any of them. I

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>don't understand what those movies are about anyway.

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 6>Anyways, Yeah, I mean in general, like, if you could

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 6>avoid putting your pea and bottles, you should think that's

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 6>a fair boundary.

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, so Eric, the peepea bottle guy is there, as

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>is Gia, and they basically ask for permission from Dom

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>to not feel guilty anymore about the huge betrayal they

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>committed against him. They just like don't want to hold

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:35.239
<v Speaker 1>themselves accountable at all. And just then Yas comes in

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>pretending to be Dom's new lover, saying that they met

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>recently at this epic karaoke night they hit it off

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>their you know, sexual chemistry was rippling throughout the room

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>love and Shea is like very jealous, and.

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because Gia is I feel like the darkest side

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 6>of many of us, where she's like this dinner to

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 6>basically humiliate her ex who is already like she's just

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 6>kicking him while she's down, but the idea of him

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 6>moving on makes her so upset.

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and like I just feel like.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 6>This is a very dark part that exists in everyone personified.

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 6>And You're just like sitting at Gia their soulmates, and

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 6>you're dating pee Pee bottle guys.

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's the thing of like I am over them,

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>but I don't want them to be over me, or like.

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, it's like a narcissistic thing.

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I don't really like them, but I want

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>them to have a crush on me, Like I've definitely

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>felt that and.

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 4>I've done it.

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean it's like who among us hasn't been

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 6>like if this person I'm disinterested in doesn't want to

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 6>marry me, I'll die And like what is that? I've

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 6>definitely been guilty of it. But it's like you just

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 6>want to win for Dom so bad at this point.

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 6>That is so awesome when Yas comes in.

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, because she comes in again, their chemistry palpable, and

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>also Yes quickly abandons any sense of pleasantries and be

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:10.720
<v Speaker 1>rates Gia for cheating on Dom with you know, peepee

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:12.479
<v Speaker 1>bottle dipshit Eric.

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And she's a neutral party. She could just be like,

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 6>clearly he sucks and you're mad about.

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 2>It, like and you shows him like please.

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I love it.

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Right, And so she comes in with this very like

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:31.399
<v Speaker 1>mic drop moment and then Dom and Yes run out

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 1>afterward and they're high on the energy. They get some

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>food together, which are burritos served to them by Colin

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Firth at a place called Love Guactually.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 2>So many layers to this bit, so many, and it's

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 2>a perfect bit. Like I I was in the theater

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:57.760
<v Speaker 2>and I called myself the Leonardo DiCaprio meme like, because

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I was just very much like, oh my gosh. And

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 2>then I did it again. When I saw the name

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 2>of the place, I was like, oh my god, are

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 2>you kidding?

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 6>Like it is so I mean, if you're a fan

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 6>of rom coms at all, it's very clear what's happening here.

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 4>But I was curious, Yeah, like what how this happened?

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 6>Because it's so wrong com. It's also so British, so

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 6>it's there's just multiple layers. So yeah, but the most

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 6>I was able to find was Rain Allen. Miller explained

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 6>how this came together sort of in our radio interview.

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 6>So she says, I decided I really want to do

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 6>this thing where we have a shop that's like about

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 6>a burrito or something. I said it to my partner

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 6>and I was like, it has to be somebody like

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 6>you know who in there, and my partner just suddenly

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 6>came out and went, what about love quactually, and I

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 6>was like, oh my god. And it was the best

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 6>thing ever.

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 1>And so I guess they just like reached out reverse

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>engineered yea.

0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, it was so cool. And she viewed this

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 6>as sort of like a baton pass. David Johnson also,

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, like they.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Were superstarstruck because it's such a weird thing that happened.

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>They also call him callin. Yeah, I wonder if he's

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>playing himself.

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 2>What are you doing here? Why don't you have a

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 2>bored tell me what's going on?

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, and.

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 6>I guess that they like all it sounds like it

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 6>was like a very magical day on set.

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 4>And like David Johnson said, I just thought it was

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, he's absolutely incredible and he was so humble,

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 4>so kind and giving, and it was just like a dream.

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 4>And he gave us the best spits of advice for

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.359
<v Speaker 4>our career, like a real career, and hopefully we used them.

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh my god, it's so sweet.

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad he was nice, because if he was mean,

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I would be damn.

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully, I mean never say never. Hopefully if he was

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 4>a horrible person, we would know by now. I don't know,

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 4>but I just I just love that.

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:59.320
<v Speaker 6>Like every recollection of this is like everyone's gushing like woooo,

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 6>this was so fun and it's such a sweet, weird

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 6>moment that is not replicated anywhere else.

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 4>In the movie.

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.959
<v Speaker 1>Right, this seems like the type of thing that could

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 1>be like a running bit if like later they run

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>into like Hugh Grant or something.

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I wouldn't be mad. I wouldn't be mad, right,

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 4>but uh no, it was.

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>It was a great little one off joke. Also, love guactually,

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's how I would pronounce it. It makes

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>me wonder if, like with an English accent.

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I think they might say they.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.879
<v Speaker 4>Do actually, Yeah, it actually doesn't work here.

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it is love actually actually, which just hurts

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>my feelings that way.

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Love guacchole, Yeah, guacasole.

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 4>Guacachole doesn't quite work here in the same way.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 6>But anyways, just a very very sweet moment in the

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 6>sweetest movie ever.

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So they get their burritos and then they walk

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>through a park they talk talk a little bit more

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 1>about their recent breakups. Yes says that one of the

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>reasons she broke up with her boyfriend is that she's like,

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, when there's a bunch of tourists on a

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>boat and they wave at you, Well, he was the

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>type of person who wouldn't wave back, and I want

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 1>someone who will waves back.

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 4>This is like such a perfect rom com line because.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 2>It makes sense too, Like you want someone who like

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 2>waves beadind because it shows that you're just kind, you're playful,

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 2>you're like sweet, and you're not just like, ugh, that's

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:36.280
<v Speaker 2>just not cute.

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 4>You're not too good for anything, Like, no, it's so cute.

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 2>And then we get oh, I don't want to Well,

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>keep going.

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>It pays off later. Yeah, it's so.

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 4>It's perfect realm com writing. It's perfect roalm com writing.

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I love it, Yeah, for sure. So then they head

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to a bar. Yes gets a call about a costume

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>designer job interview, which she blows off like it's supposed

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to be that day and she's just like, can't make

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>a sorry buy. She then tells Dom more about her

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>relationship ending Her ex boyfriend Jules was this like self righteous,

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>joyless guy who was unkind to her. So she pretended

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 1>like she was about to give him head and then

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.479
<v Speaker 1>instead dumped a bunch of hummus that she made on

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>his dick and got the fuck out. That's how they

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>broke up.

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 6>The way that that scene is shot, I mean, we'll

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 6>talk about the cinematography and a bit, but like the

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 6>way it's especially when you learn what happens later in

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 6>the movie, it makes even more sense because it shot

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 6>like a dream sequence.

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I just ugh the way this movie is.

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 6>I saw some people being like I normally wouldn't like

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 6>Fish Eye View, but this movie is so good that

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 6>I quickly forgot about it. And I mean, I don't

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 6>have any As a former MySpace girly, I have no

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 6>issue with a fish Eye lent absolutely and I I

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 6>was like, yes, this is closed, this is my culture

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 6>limography anyone Boca affect anybody.

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 4>But like it's just so cool and a word. I

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 4>was telling my fiance about this.

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, her fiance I love ram, I love comm.

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 4>But but I was telling him. I was like, it's just.

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 6>So cool to see a like current rom com that

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 6>is actually stylized and isn't just so again, like when

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 6>you think about a rom com streaming on Hulu, which

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 6>this shouldn't have been exclusively, but like you just think

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 6>of total flat no color editing, like just Ai looking

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 6>kind of an editing style, And this.

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 4>Movie is so visually cool in a way that all

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 4>rom coms deserve to be and are not.

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Totally right because like it's like the artistry of film

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the I think gives a lot of like film bros.

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>What they think is permission to discard movies that like

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:13.919
<v Speaker 1>don't have very stylized things, and because rom coms usually don't,

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>they're like.

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's not real cinema.

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 6>I like, dude, even though it right, name one thing

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 6>that happens in Dude, your.

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>End, but you know it's not tho all movies have

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>to be super super stylized or anything like that. But

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate that this one is because it just

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:35.240
<v Speaker 1>it elevates it so plus they.

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Needed to for the we'll probably get into this, but

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 2>they needed to film it so stylized without the color

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and the lighting and stuff because both leads and most

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 2>people in the movie are dark skin and like they

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 2>really makes them pop. Like in most rhyme coms, you

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry about the lighting and the colors

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 2>because you usually have just two pale white people or

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 2>like some like interracial couple or something like that. But

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 2>this one, like everyone is most of the cast is

0:41:59.920 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 2>like dark skinned folks, so even background actors and like

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:07.879
<v Speaker 2>extra like. So I think that added into why they

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 2>needed to shoot it such a way or like specifically,

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 2>it also helped bring out the beauty in the story

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 2>and the people all at the same time by shooting

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 2>it such a stylized way. It reminds me of Insecure,

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Like everyone always talks about if you ever need to

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 2>see like no one in the world can ever say

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 2>you can't shoot black people a certain way, because just

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 2>look at Insecure, Like there's nighttime scenes, there's scenes where

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 2>it's really dark inside the house and it's still so

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 2>vibrant and like, so yeah.

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 6>It's like if you say you can't do it's because

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 6>you're fucking's lazy exactly at best, exactly just like some

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 6>of my favorite background acting I've ever seen where it's

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 6>just so like I'm so curious, like how casting worked

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 6>for this movie, because every background actor is doing something

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:02.479
<v Speaker 6>specific and funny and just like draws you like doesn't

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 6>distract from the story, but also like makes you feel

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 6>a real love for the communities that they're walking through,

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 6>because it's just like people.

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Going about their business, but in like a very i

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 4>don't know, like sweet wholesome way.

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 6>I think about like the two school kids who were

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 6>playing some weird game in the background of one scene,

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 6>You're just like.

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Think about the balloon lady when they're.

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Going, yeah, she's like popping all over balloons trying to

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>get out.

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 4>The door right right, Like it's just like a more

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 4>magical version of the real world. It's so special. Anyways,

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:36.760
<v Speaker 4>what's happening in the movie?

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh, let me tell you?

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 3>So?

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>She has just dumped her boyfriend by pouring hummus on

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>his penis, but in her haste to leave, she accidentally

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>leaves behind her cherished a tribe called quest Record Damn.

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 1>So Dom is like, well, you helped me, now I'm

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna help you get your record back.

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 4>It's also partially so that they don't have to stop

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 4>stopping out.

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 6>She's just such a sweet thing where it's like they

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 6>have to keep finding these excuses before one of them

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 6>finally has to be like, I like you, please don't.

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Leave before sunrise.

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 4>It's so great.

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Anyway, so they try to get into the ex boyfriend,

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Jules's place because he's out of town right now, but

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>when they try to get in via the key that

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>yeahes has, she realized that he has changed the locks.

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 1>So then they go to Jules's two moms' place to

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>look for a sparakee.

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Such a fun detour.

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 2>If you're not paying attention, you might miss it, you

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of might miss it, you kind of might be like,

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 2>wait what because I think I know, I know that

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 2>I did not. First of all, that's a lie, but

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 2>I think I definitely did have to do a double tape,

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I had to pay attention and look at the

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 2>house and the pictures and stuff, and I was like, ah, okay, cool,

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 2>mm hmm.

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>And so they show up at this house and it

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>turns out that they're throwing a party, so Dom's like

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>hanging out at the barbecue. They're judging him for the

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 1>music on his phone because it's all like sad breakup music.

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>There's high jinks with Dom looking through the moms's underwear drawer.

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Then at one point, Dom overhears Yaz telling Jules's moms

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:36.919
<v Speaker 1>that she's only hanging out with Dom because she heard

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.439
<v Speaker 1>him crying in the bathroom and felt sorry for him.

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Dom is sad. They eventually leave the house and he

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>confronts her about this and she's like, yeah, I did

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>feel sorry for you, but I'm also enjoying hanging out

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:52.320
<v Speaker 1>with you, but now we're.

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 2>In love, right, It's okay, We're fine.

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And they discussed possibly hanging out again at some point,

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>so they numbers and then they part ways cut two.

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 1>They're together again moments later on a mopead because Yaz

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 1>learned that even though the moms didn't end up having

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 1>a key to Jules's flat, Yeas's friend Mona does. So

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>they go to Mona, who runs a karaoke night at

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a club.

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh and now we're coming full sick.

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I love it.

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 2>When they were on the moped, it was a stormsy song,

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.839
<v Speaker 2>which like iconic, like so good, so good, so good.

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 1>So it's a great soundtrack because then they go and

0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>sing Shoop by Salt and Peppa at the karaoke night.

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 4>In the dorkiest way place.

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:46.720
<v Speaker 1>It's so cute. But they're bringing down the house.

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:48.840
<v Speaker 4>Well not at first, but only together.

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Not at first yeah, yeah, so great.

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but when they joined forces, they kill it, just

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 1>like how they described in the fake story of how

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 1>they met that they to Gia and it's exciting.

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 2>It's so exciting.

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 6>The first time I saw it, I like my job.

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 6>I was, like I truly did, because usually I mean,

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 6>in a subpar rom come, you can see a scene

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 6>like that coming from a mile away, and I did

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 6>not see it coming at any organic and sweet.

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 2>And not corny, Like not I mean like corny in

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 2>the sense of they're doing this karaoke woman, but not.

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't corny. It was so cute. It was like, damn,

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:29.399
<v Speaker 2>they're really realizing more how much they like each other.

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:31.479
<v Speaker 2>And also in that moment, too, we get to see

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of Vivian Opero's character. Yet you could

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 2>see the real her. She's like, not this girl, She's

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 2>not that girl that she's been for the past like

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 2>seven hours. She maybe a little bit, but it's not

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 2>really her, you know.

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she does like retreat into herself a bit.

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's really Oh my god, I just loved it.

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 6>Where you realize I mean that is like a very

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 6>special moment in any like any kind of relationship too.

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 6>I think, like in a friendship, a romantic relationship, a

0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 6>family relationship, where you just realize someone is a little

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 6>shyer than you thought they were is such an intimate,

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 6>sweet thing.

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 1>So they sing the karaoke song and they're like all

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 1>energized from that, and then they make out a little bit,

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and then they head back to Jules's place with the

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>key and they get inside, but just then Jules and

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:36.359
<v Speaker 1>his new girlfriend Tabby come in and they're like, what

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the fuck are you doing here? And we get the

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:43.240
<v Speaker 1>real story of what happened between Yeahs and Jules. He

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 1>was actually the one to break up. He was actually

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the one to break up with her because she was

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 1>a mess and like, yeah, that was.

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Nasty work, that was good, that was so good, well done,

0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I try my best.

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 1>He breaks up with her because she's a mess and

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>like she didn't have the guts to pursue her artistic

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>dreams and she was just generally a messy person. Dom

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and Yes eventually leave Jules's place with the record, but

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Dom confronts her about lying to him, especially because he

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 1>had been so honest with her, and he's like, you

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 1>set a very bad precedent by lying to me from

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the very jump. And she does not handle this criticism

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 1>well and he doesn't trust her now. So they part

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>ways this time, you know, not to reconvene anytime soon.

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:49.319
<v Speaker 1>They wallow in sadness separately for a while. Some time

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 1>passes and they start to carry on with their lives.

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean, certain rom come troupes must happen, no matter.

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have to have that montage, you have to

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 2>have like yearning. But I'm not going to say anything

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>because I'm rightfully mad at you. But the other one

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know how to like swallow their pride.

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:12.880
<v Speaker 4>And they're like, I'm over it, I swear. Yeah.

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 6>And the fact that they set this in and I

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 6>do like that because it's like earlier, it's kind of

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 6>left as this hanging question of like, is yeahs going

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 6>to keep pursuing this career. It seems like she's really

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 6>on the fence about it, and that, as we later learn,

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 6>it's like part of her own insecurity that she doesn't

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 6>feel comfortable really throwing herself into it all the way.

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 4>And so having that time of part sometimes is necessary

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 4>because it's so easy to get pulled into a relationship

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 4>and be like I have love, I don't need personal satisfay.

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 4>It's just never true. Never to hear that today, it's

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:50.240
<v Speaker 4>never true. Yeah, you need both.

0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 1>So they start to carry on with their lives. They're

0:50:56.760 --> 0:51:00.080
<v Speaker 1>going on dates with other people. Yeah, this has an

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>interview for a costume designer job that she actually goes

0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:06.760
<v Speaker 1>on this time and gets the job the Alien movie.

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so British for them to keep calm and carry

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:11.319
<v Speaker 6>on classic that.

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I also love that there's a scene where like Yaz

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:22.840
<v Speaker 1>is talking to the director and their conversation is like

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 1>mapped on. It's like very meta because the director is like,

0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 1>this is the big climax of the movie, so there

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>needs to be this big grand moment, and it's basically

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.839
<v Speaker 1>just like narrating what Yaz needs to do in the

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:39.240
<v Speaker 1>movie that we're watching. It's really fun.

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 6>I loved and it's like this again, like toes the

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:46.399
<v Speaker 6>line so effortlessly where I think that there's a way

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:49.239
<v Speaker 6>to do that scene that has that's like, here's my

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:52.439
<v Speaker 6>rom com. It has nothing but antipathy for any other

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 6>rom com. But even when this movie is subverting the

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 6>rom com, it still feels like it comes with like

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.319
<v Speaker 6>a genuine affection for the genre, and it's just like

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:03.359
<v Speaker 6>building on it versus being like.

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 4>This fucking sucks. Like it's just like it's sweet and funny.

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:08.880
<v Speaker 4>It's not antagonistic.

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, and I had no at this point too.

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:13.799
<v Speaker 2>I know we're gonna first talk about with the movie

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 2>like how it happens, but I kinda didn't know. I

0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:19.960
<v Speaker 2>did think it was gonna be very love Jonesy right

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 2>where it's like they weren't gonna.

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 4>Write maybe get but it was cool.

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna be fine with that because it was

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 2>very much like you could see how they still affected

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and touched each other's lives as they were moving on,

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Like she was starting to go on these interviews, she

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 2>was being more self assured about herself. She was being

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 2>honest with herself and then him when he was like,

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.320
<v Speaker 2>I gotta get out of this house, Like I gotta

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:46.440
<v Speaker 2>get back out there. I am a dope person, and

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:51.439
<v Speaker 2>her sort of like extrovertness sort of tapped into him

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 2>and then vice versa. It was just so if it

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:56.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't go the way of a normal rom com of

0:52:56.960 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 2>being like happily ever after, I'd have been cool with that,

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 2>like honestly, yeah, yeah.

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Because it's still satisfying to watch them, like having affected

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 1>each other in positive ways.

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah because either way. Yeah, like their lives are better

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:14.840
<v Speaker 4>for having known each other. And then the super sentimental

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 4>part of yourself is like they are adapt Yes, how

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:23.399
<v Speaker 4>does it ends? It end? I want to talk about

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 4>how it ends.

0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>It's so cute. I love that I tell us, tell us, Okay, so, uh,

0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>she's gotten this job. She also realizes that she misses

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:39.279
<v Speaker 1>dom and that she has feelings for him and that

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:42.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe she should do some grand gesture to try to

0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:45.319
<v Speaker 1>win him back, because they had discussed previously that he

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:48.919
<v Speaker 1>was always the one doing grand gestures in his relationship

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that were met with like.

0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:55.399
<v Speaker 6>Just like made me tear up. Is like, if you're

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:58.279
<v Speaker 6>the grand gesture person in a relationship, it is so

0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 6>satisfying to see someone.

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:04.320
<v Speaker 4>Do that for the other person. It's just so sweet.

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm like almost crying now.

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 2>It's so nice and that's so true, the fact that

0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 2>she's and actually like I did cry and I'm not

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:13.120
<v Speaker 2>a crowder girl, but the first time I was like,

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.040
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, because you're right like watching that, it's

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 2>there were so many layers of satisfaction for the viewer,

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 2>being like, if you're this person and you are usually

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:24.839
<v Speaker 2>doing all this, but guess what you're about to see

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 2>it happen like for you essentially, and also fuck his

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:31.600
<v Speaker 2>ex on a whole other level, because if you've rent

0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:34.799
<v Speaker 2>out a chicken shop that we had our first date

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:38.520
<v Speaker 2>out and all of and I'm sitting there like this

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:39.040
<v Speaker 2>is so.

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 4>Like gets again British mode.

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:46.840
<v Speaker 6>They had a chicken shop date up like the famous series,

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 6>and she was like, this does nothing for me, I'm

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 6>like this, this is British cannon.

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Come on it wait because it was their anniversary and

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:55.799
<v Speaker 2>he rented it out.

0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how could you not? If you don't melt into

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:00.879
<v Speaker 4>a pile of goo, grow a heart.

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:05.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like, are you kidding? I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't.

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:08.319
<v Speaker 2>She's a grinch. It reminded me a quick story of

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 2>my dad and my mom. My mom and dad, one

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 2>of their first dates were I like a Big Boy,

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 2>And this is like early seventies, and they went to

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Big Boy and she would always get she got extra food,

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 2>like because she had like six brothers and sisters or whatever.

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:23.920
<v Speaker 2>And the only way that she could go out with

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:28.919
<v Speaker 2>him is if he brought food back home for anyway.

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I remember years later my parents just celebrated their forty

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 2>six year or something like that, but this was like

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:38.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe fifteen years ago. My dad was like, make sure

0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 2>your mom has a really nice dress, a really pretty outfit,

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 2>make sure she can get her hair done, all this

0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. He didn't tell her where she's going.

0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:46.920
<v Speaker 2>He didn't tell me where he's going. Why did he

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 2>make her? And they both got really glammed up. He

0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 2>took her to the Big Boy Boy, the one that

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 2>they went. I was like, everybody, shut up. I honestly

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 2>think my mom was half and half. She was half

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 2>like this is very romantic, and the other half was like,

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:05.480
<v Speaker 2>are you kidding. Yeah.

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 6>It was like maybe when you get older you're like, yeah, hey,

0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:09.000
<v Speaker 6>I've been here.

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:11.560
<v Speaker 2>But it's just like, so it was so cute, and

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe that his girl ex was like just

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:16.839
<v Speaker 2>it just showed how much she wasn't for him.

0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I filled in my eyebrows.

0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 2>For this and it wasn't even that good. That's a lie.

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Her eyebrow sifting cradle.

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:26.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, she's gorgeous. It's yeah, I don't know.

0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:31.080
<v Speaker 6>I yeah, my fiancey proposed to be like we basically

0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 6>went on our first date again. We went on the

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:36.480
<v Speaker 6>same walk we went on on our first date, and yeah,

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 6>I was sobbing the whole time because I knew it

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:42.400
<v Speaker 6>was going to happen because I basically planned it, but

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 6>I hadn't planned it being our first date again.

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 4>I was like, so nice. It was like we were

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:49.399
<v Speaker 4>literally we walked. We went on a two mile walk,

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:52.160
<v Speaker 4>but it was really like, it's it's the sentimental.

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.239
<v Speaker 6>But that's a sign that she's not really in love

0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:58.920
<v Speaker 6>if she's not like that part moved by that, because

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:00.839
<v Speaker 6>you should be if you're really in love.

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Anyways, anyways, okay, so this is called the movie ends.

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.200
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm going to do a big grand gesture

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:09.720
<v Speaker 1>to win Dom back.

0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:10.759
<v Speaker 2>Yes she is.

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, their mutual artist friend Nathan, who had the show

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the movie, now has another art show,

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 1>this time about people's butts. It's like photography, but photography.

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 4>I I like that he comes back. I was not

0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:29.080
<v Speaker 4>expecting that different.

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:30.919
<v Speaker 6>Fun.

0:57:31.560 --> 0:57:34.360
<v Speaker 1>And so Dom goes to the art show, but yeahs

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 1>is not there. But she does call him while she's

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:43.760
<v Speaker 1>on a nearby boat, which he waves at. So she

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 1>sees him waving. She knows that he's the one because

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:52.120
<v Speaker 1>he waves at the boats. Yes, apologizes for lying to him.

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 1>They you know, run that. She gets off the boat,

0:57:55.600 --> 0:58:00.080
<v Speaker 1>he runs through the neighborhood. They reunite and they're like, ha, oh,

0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 1>how good to see you again. Should we hang out?

0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Kiss?

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Kiss?

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Kiss?

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's the end of the movie.

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.280
<v Speaker 2>And it's so romantic and perfect and I just can't

0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:12.360
<v Speaker 2>and then I hit restart play again.

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's the movie. Let's take another quick break

0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and we'll come back to discuss and we're back.

0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.800
<v Speaker 4>All right, Where shall we start, Shelley? Where would you

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 4>like to start? Because I'm all my notes on this

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 4>movie are like, loved it.

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I kind of want to start with the easter

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 2>eggs of it all, but I guess it really wasn't

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:46.480
<v Speaker 2>an easter egg. I think it was such a perfect

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 2>just like old to London and like rom Com films

0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:53.840
<v Speaker 2>and South London in particular. But one thing that I

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 2>really loved was like seeing people, yeah, like Colin Firth

0:58:57.200 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 2>and all that. But I really, did you ever watched

0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely Fabulous? The answer is likely yes, right.

0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 4>I actually never yet?

0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, yes, God sorry, so incredible, incredible series,

0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 2>A huge part of my like pop culture upbringing. The

0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 2>mom the one that talks more like that answers the

0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:20.480
<v Speaker 2>door when they go to uh the ex's house to

0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:26.080
<v Speaker 2>get the key. She was a recurring person in Absolutely Fabulous,

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.280
<v Speaker 2>and when I saw that, I just was like again,

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:33.200
<v Speaker 2>like Leonardo DiCaprio moment, and not just because she was

0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:36.640
<v Speaker 2>in this movie and that was super cool, but I

0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 2>really love when black artists put things and people in

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 2>movies that only probably likely other black people will be like,

0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, or as like a an Insecure did

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 2>that a lot with like the people like who played

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Easter Ray's mom like stuff like that. I just really

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<v Speaker 2>love that because it felt like it was a really

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<v Speaker 2>dope layer another a dope layer to blackness, which the

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<v Speaker 2>whole film is a love letter to me. The whole

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<v Speaker 2>film is an absolute love letter to blackness and black love.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hadn't seen anything like it in a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>with maybe the exception of maybe the exception of the

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<v Speaker 2>photograph like but again, I'm just Eastern ray hand forever,

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<v Speaker 2>so that could be it. But yeah, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 2>the main thing I wanted to start off with was

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<v Speaker 2>just that. And I think a lot of people make

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<v Speaker 2>films that say they're like an ode to this or

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<v Speaker 2>oh to that, and you watch it and you really

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel that connected to it, or you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it missed you, or it feels a little bit like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe to them it's a very personal ode to whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and they think it's going to be this blanket everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get it, but this one am I'm not British,

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<v Speaker 2>like I am black, but I am right crazy. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not like, I'm not from South London. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any like West Indian heritage and stuff like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>I got so much of the film even though I'm

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<v Speaker 2>this black girl from Detroit at Sundance watching it right

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<v Speaker 2>and it just felt so deeply well done, especially with

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<v Speaker 2>it being like a black rom com. I would definitely

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<v Speaker 2>this is a rom com for everyone. Yeah, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is a black rom com with to me, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most important parts of it that both leads are

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<v Speaker 2>dark skin. They are not racially ambiguous. They don't have

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<v Speaker 2>like a curl pattern that you can't discern, like both

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<v Speaker 2>leads are tark skin, black British people, and it's so

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful to see it on film. So that's where I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and the director speaks to this. I read

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<v Speaker 1>an interview with her rain Allen Miller in Elle magazine

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<v Speaker 1>as this movie was coming out, and she speaks a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about changes she made to the script, where, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the original draft had the movie set in Camden, which

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<v Speaker 1>and if I'm remembering correctly, oh gosh, London listeners correct

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<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong, But it's a different area of London.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like a kind of predominantly white area

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<v Speaker 1>that is known for its like kind of like artsy

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<v Speaker 1>hipstery vibes, but like very different vibes from the neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 1>we end up seeing in the movie. So basically she

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<v Speaker 1>got a hold of the script, it was sent to her.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like approached to direct this. It's her feature

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<v Speaker 1>film directorial debut, and she was originally like, well, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love for my first feature to be something that I wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>but this script was so funny and I fell in

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<v Speaker 1>love with it, so she agreed to direct, but she

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<v Speaker 1>made some changes to the script. Here's a quote from her.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, I had quite a lot of notes. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the female lead to the funny one, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the world to feel more elevated. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>told stories, I wanted them to feel more dream like

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<v Speaker 1>and surreal. And then she goes on to say I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the film to be a correct representation. The truth

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<v Speaker 1>of it is, being a person of color is a

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<v Speaker 1>hard experience, but there are also really good days, and

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<v Speaker 1>this film is about one of those really good days.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so important to represent our experience correctly and not

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<v Speaker 1>just show grit. We also goof out, We also get

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<v Speaker 1>our hearts broken, eat Greg's on the bed and cry.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have a three sixty experience of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's important that that's shown unquote. And then also

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<v Speaker 1>one of the changes she made was that again story

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<v Speaker 1>was originally set in Camden, that neighborhood of London, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she changed it to Peckham and Brixton in South London.

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<v Speaker 1>And then obviously the title of the film is named

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<v Speaker 1>after the real Lifelane Market and all the like. So basically,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was thinking of movies set in London and

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<v Speaker 1>what you usually see with that, it's mostly movies featuring

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<v Speaker 1>white characters. They'll take place in these like posh, upper

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<v Speaker 1>class neighborhoods, like we've talked a lot on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>about like the movie and TV version of New York

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<v Speaker 1>City where only white people mysteriously live, and it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like London is similarly represented that way in media, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you're thinking about rom com set in London. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got your things like Nodding Hill and Bridget Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>Love Actually and Four Weddings and a Funeral, all of

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<v Speaker 1>which star Hugh Grant.

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<v Speaker 2>Will say just watched the late as Bridget Jones very happy.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I haven't seen it yet. You liked it?

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it, But I have such a connection to

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<v Speaker 2>that movie. But yes it was. I was happy. I

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<v Speaker 2>was very happy.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been saving it for like a night room, like

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<v Speaker 6>I need this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, good.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ry Lane is one of the few movies at

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<v Speaker 1>least that I've seen that's set in London that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>center white characters, that shows pockets of the city that

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<v Speaker 1>are multicultural, that are racially and ethnically and socioeconomically diverse.

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<v Speaker 1>A few other ones I could think of were things

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<v Speaker 1>like Bend It, like Beckham, Attack the Block, polite society,

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<v Speaker 1>but so much of like how London is represented in

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<v Speaker 1>media is like very like, look at these rich white people.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we're in the eighteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, because I think that that view of England, at least,

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<v Speaker 6>it seems still like fairly pushed in the US of

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<v Speaker 6>thinking of England as this white posh exclusively place, whereas

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<v Speaker 6>like all of the media I encountered about England growing

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<v Speaker 6>up would not have reflected any of the diversity that

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<v Speaker 6>you see when you go there, or any of the

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<v Speaker 6>class diversity that you see outside of like Oliver Twist,

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<v Speaker 6>like all of the any class diversity you got, you

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<v Speaker 6>have to go back one hundred and fifty years, and

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<v Speaker 6>any racial diversity is like basically not there unless you

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<v Speaker 6>have BBC, which we don't, and so it's just yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you push it, when they push it now,

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<v Speaker 2>So like my thing, first thing that came to my

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<v Speaker 2>mind was Bridgerton, right, like, and they have like Queen

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<v Speaker 2>Charlotte and stuff like that, there's always this debate level

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<v Speaker 2>of like did the blackness exist? And when we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about going back to a different period and like that's

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<v Speaker 2>such a time, right, and we think about like there's

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<v Speaker 2>always a debate because even still Bridgerton is on, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a million season and every time it premieres, people

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<v Speaker 2>constantly debate on if Queen Charlotte was like actually black,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just so the erasure of black Britain is

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<v Speaker 2>just it's constant. And I was gonna it's so funny

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<v Speaker 2>that you bring that up about Attack the Block. That

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna be my other when I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>black film and it's not romantic, but when I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about like a film from the UK, that's just inherently

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<v Speaker 2>black and brown. I definitely think of Attack the Block,

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<v Speaker 2>and not a lot of people like talk about that movie,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was so black.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good. It's one of the best like sci

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<v Speaker 2>fi ish horsment I've seen in a long time. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think about that and it shows like.

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<v Speaker 4>Wasn't that where like John boyego was discovered.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where John boyoga And then it like him

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<v Speaker 2>being in these sci fi ros is just constantly incredible

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<v Speaker 2>because he was also great and Weaklon Tyroll just great.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I think about something like Chewing Gum, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's another sort of like. But then with that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like there's so many doll ups of whiteness in

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<v Speaker 2>it because she is in an interracial relationship and all

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff. But Attacked the Block and and

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<v Speaker 2>Ry Lane are two black British films that I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>where I've just been like, I didn't have to play

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<v Speaker 2>like spot the black character, you know, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just it was awesome. And I know it's had. The

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<v Speaker 2>Block takes place in like council housing and stuff, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's either here nor there. It's just like another area

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<v Speaker 2>of black Britain, which is really cool that in another

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<v Speaker 2>cute movie. Sorry, Boxing Day, that's another black British rom

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<v Speaker 2>com that.

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<v Speaker 6>Is so fucking good, just because every time you mentioned that,

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<v Speaker 6>we write it down.

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<v Speaker 2>But Boxing Day is such an incredible black cast movie.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a rom com.

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<v Speaker 1>Boxing Day is what like the day after.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Days After, because it was like for the servants,

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<v Speaker 2>that's essentially what it was for, Like they couldn't celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>on Christmas because they were like working for the family,

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<v Speaker 2>so they would get the next day. I think British listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>please don't tell me if I'm wrong, actually find out.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, see, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Also just I read and I didn't cite it in

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<v Speaker 6>my notes, but that rain Allen Miller had previously stated

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<v Speaker 6>that she, you know, like like you were saying Caitlin,

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<v Speaker 6>that she was hoping to that her first movie would

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<v Speaker 6>be on something she'd written herself, but also that she

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<v Speaker 6>was a little bit reticent towards rom comms in general.

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<v Speaker 6>And I feel like you can you can feel that

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<v Speaker 6>in this movie in a good way, because she's like

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<v Speaker 6>pushing the genre forward in a way that like I've

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<v Speaker 6>never seen it before, and I'm so glad that someone

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<v Speaker 6>who wasn't like a diehard rom com fan made a

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<v Speaker 6>rom com because it it has all of the things

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<v Speaker 6>that we love about roalm coms, but also is not

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<v Speaker 6>being precious about the the tropes that we haven't needed

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<v Speaker 6>for decades, including the whitewashedness, including the like visual uncreativity,

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<v Speaker 6>and it just all I just love it and rain

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<v Speaker 6>Alan Miller not for nothing, Like I'm just so glad

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<v Speaker 6>that I know about Eliah because she's so cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and she's just really really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>She also I wanted to share another quote from this

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<v Speaker 1>LL magazine interview with her about the environment that she

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<v Speaker 1>cultivated on set. Here's just a quote from this piece.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to creating an environment on set, Alan

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<v Speaker 1>Miller cites a grounded and relatable approach is best now

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<v Speaker 1>quoting her, it should be fun, you know, it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be hell, because even though it's important to work, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not life or death. Prioritizing people and making sure the

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<v Speaker 1>crew and cast could go home, see their families and

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<v Speaker 1>live a healthy life was important to me, she explains,

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<v Speaker 1>noting that she wanted people like the film's production designer, Anna,

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<v Speaker 1>who was eight months pregnant during filming to feel comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone needs to feel like their opinions matter, She continues,

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<v Speaker 1>from the runners on set to the young actors leading

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<v Speaker 1>the film. To make sure they're all singing from the

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<v Speaker 1>same hymn sheet doesn't mean that they can't have fun,

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<v Speaker 1>explore and challenge.

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<v Speaker 6>So truly, imagine not being punished for egotistical reasons on

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<v Speaker 6>a set.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, because we've talked about so many productions that are

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<v Speaker 1>directed by men almost always that it's like a dictatorship.

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<v Speaker 1>The director is a tyrant. They're cruel, they're abusive to

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<v Speaker 1>their cast and crew.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not what makes them great.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, but it's okay because it's creative

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<v Speaker 2>and just what comes of it, Like Lollie, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 4>I love.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that this was the thing that was pushed

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<v Speaker 6>back a lot on at during the press cycle around

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<v Speaker 6>everything everywhere all at once. That was another very like

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<v Speaker 6>inclusive and thoughtfully crafted set where it's like, we don't

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<v Speaker 6>want this to ruin anyone's life, we want this to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be a force of good. And what a concept.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm so glad that she has a similar because it's

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<v Speaker 6>also just like showing respect to the people who were

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<v Speaker 6>bringing the vision to life, like yeah, and you can

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<v Speaker 6>really feel I forget if we talked about this earlier,

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<v Speaker 6>but The Fish Islands was another nod to a British

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<v Speaker 6>comedy with Peep Show, Yes, which is like one of

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<v Speaker 6>my favorite shows ever.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so good. I just and that's all I'll say.

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<v Speaker 4>But I love it so much.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just so clear that like Rain Allen Miller put

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of herself into this movie in spite of

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that she didn't write it. It was written

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<v Speaker 6>by I believe, so Nathan Bryan is a British mixed

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<v Speaker 6>race British actor, he's a white father, jamake a mother.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe that Rain Allen Miller also has to ancestry.

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<v Speaker 6>And Tom Malia is respectfully some white guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was hoping you were going to say that, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, but yeah, it feels like, at the

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<v Speaker 6>end of the day, with due respect to the writers,

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<v Speaker 6>this is her movie, because you can just see every

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<v Speaker 6>interview that I've seen with her seems to bear out

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<v Speaker 6>that like this was her vision of what she wanted

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<v Speaker 6>in a movie and didn't have. That also pays homage

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<v Speaker 6>to movies in comedy that she really loves and like,

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<v Speaker 6>what more could you want?

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<v Speaker 1>Totally the one small gripe I have with the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited. There are what I might argue are

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<v Speaker 1>two different surprise kisses. One in the karaoke scene where

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<v Speaker 1>they've like just gotten off stage, and yes they are vibing,

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<v Speaker 1>like the energy is there, but we don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>in what capacity, Like is it they're feeling horny for

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<v Speaker 1>each other or is it just the you know, the

1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:13.840
<v Speaker 1>excitement from performing. Either way, yes, kind of springs a

1:14:13.920 --> 1:14:17.599
<v Speaker 1>kiss on Dom without really checking in with him. This

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<v Speaker 1>does lead to them going into a bathroom and making

1:14:20.080 --> 1:14:22.920
<v Speaker 1>out later, so you can presume that he's receptive to

1:14:22.960 --> 1:14:26.519
<v Speaker 1>the kissing. But just like her kind of planting a

1:14:26.600 --> 1:14:30.879
<v Speaker 1>kiss on him without being like, hey should we kiss

1:14:32.280 --> 1:14:38.160
<v Speaker 1>that happens and then at the very end yeahes is like, hey,

1:14:38.680 --> 1:14:43.960
<v Speaker 1>uh so should we go do something? And then he

1:14:44.080 --> 1:14:48.200
<v Speaker 1>like kind of shuts her up by kissing her and

1:14:48.240 --> 1:14:50.680
<v Speaker 1>she is receptive to it and they continue to make

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<v Speaker 1>out and it's cute. But like, I'm like, can we

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<v Speaker 1>do a little bit more in movies and in real

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<v Speaker 1>life to normalize checking in with people before we just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like facially attack them with our lips just

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<v Speaker 1>a thought.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm like, well, I like the movie, so I

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<v Speaker 6>don't have that nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>But I see what you mean.

1:15:16.360 --> 1:15:19.200
<v Speaker 6>This is a very inclusive world that is still be

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<v Speaker 6>But I think it has to do it. We had

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<v Speaker 6>a simpler conversation around the Before trilogy where it is

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<v Speaker 6>ultimately kind of a pretty straight movie. But I think

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<v Speaker 6>that that has to do mostly with the kind of

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<v Speaker 6>myopic nature of we're following a straight presumably straight couple.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know for sure throughout the movie. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just like not inclined to knock this movie in

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<v Speaker 6>any way, shape or form. So I'm like, it was canon,

1:15:44.560 --> 1:15:48.000
<v Speaker 6>it was totally fine. And why didn't it have a

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<v Speaker 6>theatrical release outside of the UK?

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<v Speaker 1>Fair question.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I feel too like it. I do agree

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<v Speaker 2>with like, we could do a lot more work around

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<v Speaker 2>asking or not even making it such a thing where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, hello, fellow person who I would very much

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy to put lips upon, May I kiss if thou

1:16:07.760 --> 1:16:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you know?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>But I start saying that exactly that way, verbatim.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly that way all the time. Text me after let

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<v Speaker 2>me know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, could you record a voice memo for me and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll just play that people.

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<v Speaker 2>You take it out and you go give me once

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this. Thank you so much.

1:16:26.360 --> 1:16:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, sorry, I have to find it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on scrolling, she texts a lot. But I do agree. Yeah,

1:16:37.640 --> 1:16:39.800
<v Speaker 2>there definitely should could be a lot more work around it.

1:16:39.840 --> 1:16:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I think just in my head, to be honest, like

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<v Speaker 2>as I was watching it, it didn't come to my mind,

1:16:44.760 --> 1:16:48.200
<v Speaker 2>and not until just now where you just said it,

1:16:48.200 --> 1:16:50.599
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, like, I think I was so wrapped

1:16:50.680 --> 1:16:54.080
<v Speaker 2>up within the rom com of it all. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I think also why it didn't hit for me is

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<v Speaker 2>because of the after was like yes they did go

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<v Speaker 2>into the bathroom to make out, and then like yes

1:17:04.280 --> 1:17:07.160
<v Speaker 2>they did, like the camera panned in a fucking circle

1:17:07.280 --> 1:17:09.360
<v Speaker 2>and then it went up into the sky and I'm like, ah,

1:17:09.400 --> 1:17:12.160
<v Speaker 2>that was perfect. Of course he could kiss it, so

1:17:12.479 --> 1:17:15.240
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't something that was It wasn't something that was

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<v Speaker 2>top of mi mba. I definitely do understand how we

1:17:17.280 --> 1:17:20.599
<v Speaker 2>could put more conversation around doing so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean even in that first one at the karaoke

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<v Speaker 1>bar when she kisses him, he is a little taken

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<v Speaker 1>aback and he's like oh oh, and she's like oh sorry,

1:17:30.000 --> 1:17:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and then he's like aha, wait and then he like

1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:34.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of pulls her into the bathroom and then they

1:17:34.200 --> 1:17:39.599
<v Speaker 1>make out. So like her kissing him sends the message

1:17:39.640 --> 1:17:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to him that like she's down to kiss, and then

1:17:41.960 --> 1:17:43.880
<v Speaker 1>he's like, okay, now let's go make out. So like

1:17:44.600 --> 1:17:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the aftermath, like the results worked out just fine. But

1:17:48.120 --> 1:17:50.240
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing with the surprise kiss. You don't know

1:17:50.479 --> 1:17:52.600
<v Speaker 1>what the aftermath is going to be. You don't know

1:17:52.920 --> 1:17:55.280
<v Speaker 1>how receptive the person is going to be to the

1:17:55.360 --> 1:17:58.040
<v Speaker 1>kiss unless you check in with them first. So I'm

1:17:58.040 --> 1:18:02.040
<v Speaker 1>always just a proponent of being like heyd I okay

1:18:02.160 --> 1:18:06.439
<v Speaker 1>if I kiss you, or to quote you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>forget what you said and I pull up.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello person that I would like to le Hello, fellow person, sorry, hello,

1:18:13.120 --> 1:18:14.920
<v Speaker 2>fellow person that I would like to put my lips upon.

1:18:15.040 --> 1:18:17.880
<v Speaker 2>May if I kiss this thou thou wow?

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<v Speaker 4>So ever after of you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't make me go watch that movie tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>Why it's been on my mind recently, but it has.

1:18:27.080 --> 1:18:30.360
<v Speaker 6>But nevertheless, no, I I I totally agree with you.

1:18:30.400 --> 1:18:33.439
<v Speaker 6>I think I'm it's so funny because Shelley. Right before this,

1:18:33.520 --> 1:18:36.680
<v Speaker 6>we recorded an episode that Caitlin was like going to

1:18:36.720 --> 1:18:37.200
<v Speaker 6>the mat for.

1:18:37.680 --> 1:18:40.480
<v Speaker 4>And so it's like The.

1:18:39.760 --> 1:18:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Little Rascals is a genius film with great comedy.

1:18:44.760 --> 1:18:45.640
<v Speaker 4>It's okay.

1:18:45.960 --> 1:18:49.479
<v Speaker 2>I I can't wait to hear that episode because I

1:18:49.479 --> 1:18:51.519
<v Speaker 2>have thought, I have thoughts. I have thoughts.

1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:57.280
<v Speaker 6>I have thought, Yeah it is it's fine, it's fine,

1:18:56.640 --> 1:19:01.240
<v Speaker 6>it's fine, and we're safe. Did anyone else have anything

1:19:01.320 --> 1:19:04.000
<v Speaker 6>else to say about this? I mean a big thing

1:19:04.080 --> 1:19:07.840
<v Speaker 6>for me is I'm very happy that David Johnson's career

1:19:07.880 --> 1:19:11.960
<v Speaker 6>has continued to grow. But if Vivian Opara doesn't become

1:19:12.360 --> 1:19:16.680
<v Speaker 6>a movie star, it's curtains like she just like and

1:19:17.160 --> 1:19:18.960
<v Speaker 6>he and again it's like David Johnson's put in the

1:19:19.000 --> 1:19:22.280
<v Speaker 6>position like his character is very withheld. This is the

1:19:22.320 --> 1:19:25.360
<v Speaker 6>only I've seen him in industry in this. I haven't

1:19:25.360 --> 1:19:27.880
<v Speaker 6>seen Alien Romulus, Like they're both so talented. But I

1:19:27.920 --> 1:19:30.920
<v Speaker 6>was just blown away by Vivian Opara.

1:19:30.800 --> 1:19:34.479
<v Speaker 4>Like her performance and her part is something that could

1:19:34.520 --> 1:19:37.160
<v Speaker 4>have been played poorly, where it could have been really

1:19:37.240 --> 1:19:40.400
<v Speaker 4>obvious that like I'm not the confident girl that I

1:19:40.439 --> 1:19:43.799
<v Speaker 4>say I am, but she just pleays it so well.

1:19:43.920 --> 1:19:47.080
<v Speaker 4>I just like I really love her. I can't wait

1:19:47.120 --> 1:19:48.240
<v Speaker 4>to see her and more.

1:19:48.479 --> 1:19:50.720
<v Speaker 2>He was in and I had to look it up

1:19:50.840 --> 1:19:53.240
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know how I came across this show.

1:19:53.880 --> 1:19:57.719
<v Speaker 2>But it's called Dead Hot and okay, there's another guy

1:19:57.760 --> 1:20:00.800
<v Speaker 2>in it name blal has No. I apologize if I

1:20:00.920 --> 1:20:05.360
<v Speaker 2>pronounced his name wrong, but he's in a show called Extraordinary.

1:20:05.840 --> 1:20:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Did you watch that on.

1:20:07.120 --> 1:20:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Hulu where I haven't seen it yet.

1:20:09.200 --> 1:20:11.679
<v Speaker 2>It's so good and I think it's getting another season,

1:20:11.680 --> 1:20:14.439
<v Speaker 2>but at least it has two and in that show,

1:20:14.640 --> 1:20:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Vivie on a part. Isn't that but they co star

1:20:17.400 --> 1:20:20.800
<v Speaker 2>in the Dead Hot show and it's also another British

1:20:20.920 --> 1:20:23.400
<v Speaker 2>like series and it's kind of a one offer, but

1:20:23.479 --> 1:20:25.920
<v Speaker 2>it was last year, but it was really really good.

1:20:26.280 --> 1:20:31.240
<v Speaker 2>And just for Black, he's incredible and extraordinary because that show.

1:20:32.000 --> 1:20:35.160
<v Speaker 2>You can watch that show both seasons in like a day.

1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I have many a time. But but yeah, Vivian Apar

1:20:39.240 --> 1:20:44.000
<v Speaker 2>is like a fucking star, like she's a star. And

1:20:44.080 --> 1:20:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she has any like more projects

1:20:46.320 --> 1:20:49.280
<v Speaker 2>coming out, which I'm sure because I feel like that

1:20:49.320 --> 1:20:53.120
<v Speaker 2>always happens. We say that and then boom, like oh

1:20:53.160 --> 1:20:55.000
<v Speaker 2>if she hasn't anything, and then boom, like all of

1:20:55.040 --> 1:20:56.439
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, you see something where.

1:20:56.280 --> 1:20:59.639
<v Speaker 4>She's we listened to this in two years in really yeah,

1:20:59.680 --> 1:20:59.920
<v Speaker 4>not to.

1:21:00.120 --> 1:21:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Worry, but I actually have never I think I've seen

1:21:04.600 --> 1:21:09.720
<v Speaker 2>like one episode of Industry, but I knew that that

1:21:09.880 --> 1:21:15.439
<v Speaker 2>was him because my my fiance also I am fiance.

1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:19.760
<v Speaker 2>It's my fiance watches that show, so I didn't really

1:21:19.880 --> 1:21:23.000
<v Speaker 2>know his word. But I think he's incredible in this.

1:21:23.200 --> 1:21:26.240
<v Speaker 2>But yes, she's she's a star. Yeah, she's definitely a

1:21:26.280 --> 1:21:27.200
<v Speaker 2>star for sure.

1:21:27.320 --> 1:21:30.599
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's just so refreshing to not just see

1:21:30.960 --> 1:21:35.400
<v Speaker 6>two dark skinned black actors starring in a romcom, but

1:21:35.600 --> 1:21:39.480
<v Speaker 6>just like two actors with such amazing chemistry.

1:21:40.040 --> 1:21:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Chemistry was.

1:21:42.280 --> 1:21:46.519
<v Speaker 6>A relief to not see casting by algorithm, which I

1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:49.280
<v Speaker 6>think we've seen so many times in the last handful

1:21:49.320 --> 1:21:52.600
<v Speaker 6>of years. It's just nice to feel like, and hopefully

1:21:52.840 --> 1:21:55.120
<v Speaker 6>you know, in many movies to come, when you see

1:21:55.120 --> 1:21:58.680
<v Speaker 6>a rain Allen Miller movie, she actually cares. If you

1:21:59.040 --> 1:22:02.320
<v Speaker 6>believe that these actors are attracted to each other, you know,

1:22:02.760 --> 1:22:03.400
<v Speaker 6>it's just great.

1:22:03.720 --> 1:22:06.680
<v Speaker 2>And even the other couples within the movie too, right,

1:22:06.920 --> 1:22:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like they all had chemistry. Like I

1:22:09.280 --> 1:22:13.240
<v Speaker 2>also believe that Dom's character like they could be friends.

1:22:13.479 --> 1:22:17.439
<v Speaker 2>That of course that's his best friend, right, Like, oh yeah,

1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:19.200
<v Speaker 2>it just is like because they went they had been

1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:25.040
<v Speaker 2>going to school since like elementary sorry primary comary school. Apologies, Yeah,

1:22:25.160 --> 1:22:28.640
<v Speaker 2>but they But I believed that friendship too, And I

1:22:28.640 --> 1:22:32.000
<v Speaker 2>also believe the coupling of that artist and his girlfriend.

1:22:32.280 --> 1:22:36.519
<v Speaker 2>And I definitely believe that a coupling of her ex

1:22:36.680 --> 1:22:40.679
<v Speaker 2>and his new girlfriend. The only one I didn't believe

1:22:40.920 --> 1:22:44.200
<v Speaker 2>was the best friend in Dom's X because what, that's crazy.

1:22:44.280 --> 1:22:47.360
<v Speaker 4>She must be in a really dark place, A dark place.

1:22:48.439 --> 1:22:51.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that is like a scary Yeah I was, she

1:22:51.960 --> 1:22:55.160
<v Speaker 6>was an asshole, but I was also like, and I

1:22:55.240 --> 1:22:57.200
<v Speaker 6>know I was projecting, but like I'm a little worried

1:22:57.200 --> 1:23:00.720
<v Speaker 6>about her, because if you're leaving your sweetheart, you know,

1:23:00.840 --> 1:23:03.479
<v Speaker 6>like long, even if you've fallen out of love over time,

1:23:03.760 --> 1:23:05.559
<v Speaker 6>this is not the guy you jumped to.

1:23:06.240 --> 1:23:11.719
<v Speaker 2>He's an idiot. But he also played dumb so well

1:23:13.040 --> 1:23:16.080
<v Speaker 2>because I watched a lot of the interviews, Like after

1:23:16.120 --> 1:23:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I saw this movie, I couldn't get enough. You ever

1:23:19.600 --> 1:23:22.200
<v Speaker 2>watch a movie, You're like, I need more content, I

1:23:22.240 --> 1:23:24.400
<v Speaker 2>need behind the scenes. So anything that came out on YouTube,

1:23:24.439 --> 1:23:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching interviews I'm watching like where they make them

1:23:27.080 --> 1:23:31.240
<v Speaker 2>play the little silly games on like Instagram. I'm like, yeah,

1:23:31.439 --> 1:23:38.360
<v Speaker 2>that's that's so funny. But he's so funny. He's so funny.

1:23:38.160 --> 1:23:43.080
<v Speaker 2>They she created this world that I believed and it

1:23:43.360 --> 1:23:46.839
<v Speaker 2>was this close. I think for most of the runtime

1:23:46.920 --> 1:23:50.320
<v Speaker 2>to be my favorite little mini genre, which is movies

1:23:50.360 --> 1:23:53.040
<v Speaker 2>that take place on one day. So I think for

1:23:53.200 --> 1:23:55.959
<v Speaker 2>most of the runtime it is like the same.

1:23:55.800 --> 1:23:57.880
<v Speaker 4>Day until the last like fifteen minutes.

1:23:58.240 --> 1:24:03.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it counts. It was before coded to me like

1:24:03.120 --> 1:24:04.960
<v Speaker 6>people falling in love over the course of.

1:24:04.880 --> 1:24:08.799
<v Speaker 7>A day, Like you're reading three movies like on a walk,

1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:12.600
<v Speaker 7>which is what when you said that Jamie about like

1:24:12.800 --> 1:24:16.000
<v Speaker 7>being on a walk, right, and you're just falling in

1:24:16.040 --> 1:24:17.240
<v Speaker 7>love on this walk.

1:24:17.640 --> 1:24:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I also I connected with that too because I just

1:24:21.080 --> 1:24:23.280
<v Speaker 2>like to remember my second day with my fiance. It

1:24:23.320 --> 1:24:25.519
<v Speaker 2>was very much we went on a fucking walk, like

1:24:26.120 --> 1:24:28.120
<v Speaker 2>and we ended up at like a restaurant and then

1:24:28.240 --> 1:24:31.200
<v Speaker 2>like all this stuff. But to see that be on

1:24:31.479 --> 1:24:35.840
<v Speaker 2>film but for black people, the Harry met Sally of

1:24:35.880 --> 1:24:38.599
<v Speaker 2>it all, like the Nodding Hill, all of it just

1:24:38.800 --> 1:24:42.080
<v Speaker 2>like this beautiful, awesome setting. Because I know when we

1:24:42.080 --> 1:24:44.040
<v Speaker 2>think of Harry met Sally. We think of the park

1:24:44.080 --> 1:24:47.120
<v Speaker 2>and the leaves changing and all of this, But now

1:24:47.240 --> 1:24:52.200
<v Speaker 2>there's this film out there where instead of like inserting

1:24:52.240 --> 1:24:55.360
<v Speaker 2>myself into it and being like, oh, this could happen

1:24:55.360 --> 1:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>for me, because I used to put myself in Harry

1:24:56.840 --> 1:24:59.400
<v Speaker 2>met Sally like all the time, right, I'm like, this

1:24:59.439 --> 1:25:03.160
<v Speaker 2>could be me or whatever. But you can only do

1:25:03.200 --> 1:25:05.799
<v Speaker 2>that for so long when you don't see it on film.

1:25:06.160 --> 1:25:08.200
<v Speaker 2>That's why I always go back to Love Jones another

1:25:08.400 --> 1:25:12.280
<v Speaker 2>walking and Falling in Love like film. But then I

1:25:12.320 --> 1:25:15.160
<v Speaker 2>saw it in ry Lane and you're just like, they're

1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:18.519
<v Speaker 2>just hanging out and they don't know they're falling in love,

1:25:18.640 --> 1:25:21.640
<v Speaker 2>but the viewer does, and it's just really dope to

1:25:21.640 --> 1:25:24.559
<v Speaker 2>see it play out. And I think it was just

1:25:24.640 --> 1:25:27.479
<v Speaker 2>like it was played out perfectly. And then the trope

1:25:27.520 --> 1:25:30.479
<v Speaker 2>of like she's extroverted, he's a little introverted. It can

1:25:30.520 --> 1:25:34.639
<v Speaker 2>be so lame, but it worked again here too, because

1:25:34.640 --> 1:25:36.519
<v Speaker 2>I believed in their chemistry so.

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<v Speaker 6>And I love that the truth of how they portrayed

1:25:39.720 --> 1:25:43.120
<v Speaker 6>themselves ended up falling somewhere in between where she wasn't

1:25:43.160 --> 1:25:46.599
<v Speaker 6>as extroverted as she wanted to project herself to this

1:25:46.640 --> 1:25:48.920
<v Speaker 6>guy that she didn't think she was ever gonna see again,

1:25:48.960 --> 1:25:52.040
<v Speaker 6>and just all of these things that like, I don't know,

1:25:52.120 --> 1:25:55.040
<v Speaker 6>I just yeah, it's so exciting to see these like.

1:25:55.160 --> 1:25:59.640
<v Speaker 4>Micro dynamics that you have either witnessed.

1:25:59.240 --> 1:26:04.200
<v Speaker 6>Or experience in a rom com where basically there is

1:26:04.360 --> 1:26:07.360
<v Speaker 6>no there's nothing, there's only things that you are used

1:26:07.360 --> 1:26:13.280
<v Speaker 6>to like aspiring to experience. So yeah, it passes the

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<v Speaker 6>back to test, does it not?

1:26:15.479 --> 1:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know because I yeah, please, I was concerned.

1:26:19.640 --> 1:26:20.679
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know if it did.

1:26:20.760 --> 1:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Actually, I think maybe it does between yees.

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<v Speaker 4>Such as you would want it to.

1:26:25.560 --> 1:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>But it yeah, okay, between yeaes and Jules's moms, yes,

1:26:32.120 --> 1:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>although they do kind of talk about Dom most of

1:26:36.800 --> 1:26:39.400
<v Speaker 1>their conversation. And then Yes also talks to her best

1:26:39.439 --> 1:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>friend Cass. She talks to like the people on the

1:26:45.080 --> 1:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>set of the movie she's working on. Those are very

1:26:47.120 --> 1:26:49.839
<v Speaker 1>like tertiary characters. I don't think we learned their names,

1:26:50.000 --> 1:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>so you can debate on whether or not those exchanges count.

1:26:54.760 --> 1:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>The thing about a movie like this where it's so

1:26:56.880 --> 1:27:01.120
<v Speaker 1>hyper focused on a hetero relationship, so it's like a

1:27:01.120 --> 1:27:05.440
<v Speaker 1>man and a woman talking, and like the Before trilogy,

1:27:05.680 --> 1:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>they will encounter people along the way, but it's really

1:27:09.920 --> 1:27:14.200
<v Speaker 1>focused on them. I do appreciate like the encounters they

1:27:14.200 --> 1:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>have along the way being with I mean, you get

1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>queer visibility with like the two moms with Mona, who

1:27:22.200 --> 1:27:24.919
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to figure out if that was intended

1:27:24.960 --> 1:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>to be a non binary character because they use they

1:27:27.880 --> 1:27:29.599
<v Speaker 1>them pronouns to refer to Mona.

1:27:30.320 --> 1:27:33.040
<v Speaker 6>Not totally sure, and if so, it's again just like

1:27:33.120 --> 1:27:35.800
<v Speaker 6>effortless in a way that if this was a real world,

1:27:35.880 --> 1:27:38.760
<v Speaker 6>you wouldn't have to like stop and be like, hey,

1:27:38.800 --> 1:27:43.200
<v Speaker 6>everybody are real familiar with non binary identity. I will

1:27:43.240 --> 1:27:46.000
<v Speaker 6>say I noticed that. And what sent me over the

1:27:46.120 --> 1:27:50.160
<v Speaker 6>edge is the Bechdel Test Fest, which is based in London,

1:27:50.960 --> 1:27:54.520
<v Speaker 6>where and we've never been invited to kind of interesting, insane,

1:27:55.280 --> 1:27:59.800
<v Speaker 6>but that they were heavily promoting how much they love

1:28:00.280 --> 1:28:03.360
<v Speaker 6>ry Lane and they do not promote movies that don't

1:28:03.400 --> 1:28:05.200
<v Speaker 6>pass the Backtal test, at least in passing.

1:28:05.600 --> 1:28:07.519
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that it passes a lot, but I

1:28:07.600 --> 1:28:10.040
<v Speaker 4>do think that a couple a couple of times it does.

1:28:10.240 --> 1:28:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if we're not counted, because that was gonna be

1:28:13.600 --> 1:28:17.120
<v Speaker 2>my thing about counting the cast on set or everybody

1:28:17.160 --> 1:28:20.760
<v Speaker 2>on set, because she's talking to people in wardrobe and

1:28:20.760 --> 1:28:22.479
<v Speaker 2>then the direct you know what I mean, Like, whenever

1:28:22.520 --> 1:28:26.479
<v Speaker 2>she's in conversation, it's always about her and him. But yeah,

1:28:26.640 --> 1:28:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I oh, wait, doesn't she It's not that it doesn't.

1:28:30.439 --> 1:28:32.360
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say the lady that she compliments in

1:28:32.400 --> 1:28:34.719
<v Speaker 2>the store, but that is too short of an interaction.

1:28:35.360 --> 1:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's just like cool outfit stranger basically.

1:28:41.439 --> 1:28:41.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:28:42.040 --> 1:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I think it's a little up for debate

1:28:46.120 --> 1:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of the conversations she does have with women.

1:28:49.760 --> 1:28:51.800
<v Speaker 4>Technically it does, but it doesn't pass.

1:28:51.600 --> 1:28:54.680
<v Speaker 6>A lot a lot, right, Yeah, But I'm also like,

1:28:55.720 --> 1:28:58.120
<v Speaker 6>spiritually to me, and again this is maybe me just

1:28:58.160 --> 1:29:02.800
<v Speaker 6>being defensive, Like, spiritually to me, it does pass well.

1:29:02.800 --> 1:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>The other thing too about it is and you know,

1:29:04.800 --> 1:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>we always talk about how the Bechdel test is just

1:29:07.720 --> 1:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a jumping off point, like it's not the end all

1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>be all of Like is this movie feminist?

1:29:12.600 --> 1:29:15.200
<v Speaker 4>It was written as a joke, and it wouldn't.

1:29:15.400 --> 1:29:19.439
<v Speaker 1>If more movies did handily pass, this wouldn't even need

1:29:19.479 --> 1:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>to be a conversation that we have at all. But

1:29:22.920 --> 1:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>like in an ideal world where there was far more

1:29:26.280 --> 1:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>inclusivity in movies and that more movies did have women

1:29:31.280 --> 1:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, people of marginalized genders interacting with each other,

1:29:35.160 --> 1:29:38.439
<v Speaker 1>it would be okay for a movie to not handily

1:29:38.560 --> 1:29:40.599
<v Speaker 1>pass as long as it was you know, like doing

1:29:40.640 --> 1:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>other things for representation purposes, which this movie for sure does.

1:29:45.680 --> 1:29:48.120
<v Speaker 6>And I think it matters of like who's behind the camera,

1:29:48.120 --> 1:29:49.920
<v Speaker 6>because I think a lot of times that we gripe

1:29:49.920 --> 1:29:53.800
<v Speaker 6>about the mental test, it's because we're trying to be like,

1:29:53.840 --> 1:29:56.840
<v Speaker 6>we like this movie, but behind the scenes it's unequivocally

1:29:57.640 --> 1:29:59.760
<v Speaker 6>all white men for the most part, and that is

1:29:59.800 --> 1:30:00.599
<v Speaker 6>just the case.

1:30:00.640 --> 1:30:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Here.

1:30:01.280 --> 1:30:06.639
<v Speaker 6>We have black cinematographer Olin Collardi. We have one woman producer,

1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:12.600
<v Speaker 6>Ivonne is Amazato. We have a woman who edited it,

1:30:12.680 --> 1:30:17.799
<v Speaker 6>which is very rare, Victoria Boydell, who has edited.

1:30:17.960 --> 1:30:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

1:30:18.960 --> 1:30:21.559
<v Speaker 4>People like the movie twelve Monkeys, right, I haven't seen it.

1:30:21.640 --> 1:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's one of my favorites, right, yeah, Brad Pitt

1:30:25.160 --> 1:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and Bruce Okay.

1:30:26.840 --> 1:30:29.639
<v Speaker 2>The only reason I know about sorry about twelve Monkeys

1:30:29.680 --> 1:30:32.519
<v Speaker 2>is because of can't Harley Waite when she there, somebody

1:30:32.560 --> 1:30:34.479
<v Speaker 2>references it in can't Harley Waite.

1:30:34.840 --> 1:30:37.760
<v Speaker 6>I have not seen it, but she is a longtime

1:30:37.960 --> 1:30:43.200
<v Speaker 6>British editor, So I just feel like this movie walks

1:30:43.439 --> 1:30:46.200
<v Speaker 6>the walk in front of and behind the camera, and

1:30:46.520 --> 1:30:50.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm not inclined to be like, well they're because sure, yes,

1:30:50.120 --> 1:30:52.519
<v Speaker 6>there could have been more interactions between women. I think

1:30:52.520 --> 1:30:56.080
<v Speaker 6>that we should never pooh pooh that as something that

1:30:56.120 --> 1:30:57.120
<v Speaker 6>should happen more.

1:30:57.200 --> 1:31:00.160
<v Speaker 4>But it just really does feel. And there's also so

1:31:00.439 --> 1:31:02.240
<v Speaker 4>original music from.

1:31:02.120 --> 1:31:04.960
<v Speaker 6>I haven't heard of him before, but Quays a black

1:31:05.000 --> 1:31:08.599
<v Speaker 6>British musician who has worked with all of these famous musicians.

1:31:08.160 --> 1:31:10.360
<v Speaker 4>And I believe this was his first score.

1:31:11.120 --> 1:31:14.519
<v Speaker 6>Like, you can just feel that this movie is coming

1:31:14.600 --> 1:31:18.000
<v Speaker 6>from a genuine and thoughtful place, and behind the camera

1:31:18.280 --> 1:31:21.920
<v Speaker 6>is just as diverse, and so for sure it passes

1:31:21.960 --> 1:31:22.639
<v Speaker 6>the factual test.

1:31:23.040 --> 1:31:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:31:23.240 --> 1:31:25.799
<v Speaker 2>I definitely b with that too, about the behind the camera,

1:31:25.880 --> 1:31:28.800
<v Speaker 2>and then like just how she is in her interviews

1:31:28.840 --> 1:31:32.439
<v Speaker 2>as well, the director, like Ryan is very just Yeah,

1:31:32.479 --> 1:31:33.559
<v Speaker 2>so I vibe with that too.

1:31:35.120 --> 1:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>As far as our nipple scale, where we rate the

1:31:37.920 --> 1:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>movie on a scale of zero to five nipples based

1:31:40.000 --> 1:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>on examining it through an intersectional feminist lens, I think

1:31:44.240 --> 1:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>this movie does so much and even though it is

1:31:49.439 --> 1:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>centering a hetero relationship, that doesn't mean it's bad that

1:31:57.200 --> 1:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>those do happen in the world sometimes and the idea

1:32:01.120 --> 1:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>is how are they portrayed and framed? And this movie,

1:32:06.040 --> 1:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I think does a spectacular job where the characters are

1:32:10.160 --> 1:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>very very relatable, and their problems are relatable, and their

1:32:16.280 --> 1:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>personalities are magnetic, and the little love story journey they

1:32:24.360 --> 1:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>go on feels very grounded. And I think I'll give

1:32:29.080 --> 1:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>it like four point seven five nipples. I'm gonna dock

1:32:34.320 --> 1:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>it for the surprise uses that you could argue are present,

1:32:41.080 --> 1:32:45.479
<v Speaker 1>but other than that, I really can't find anything else

1:32:45.560 --> 1:32:50.519
<v Speaker 1>to nitpick about this movie. So yeah, it's gonna be

1:32:50.600 --> 1:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>very high marks for me. And I'll give my nipples

1:32:53.520 --> 1:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>to the two leads as well as the director, rain

1:32:58.240 --> 1:33:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Allen Miller, and I'll set aside my point seven five

1:33:03.520 --> 1:33:08.519
<v Speaker 1>nipples for the two moms, and then I'll give the

1:33:08.760 --> 1:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>final full nipple. I don't know if I'm doing this

1:33:11.280 --> 1:33:14.559
<v Speaker 1>math right at all, but I.

1:33:14.520 --> 1:33:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Think you just want to give it five nipples and

1:33:16.120 --> 1:33:20.599
<v Speaker 2>that way you have more. No.

1:33:20.840 --> 1:33:23.679
<v Speaker 1>I feel very strongly about the kissing.

1:33:24.800 --> 1:33:27.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, give it away though, because I have to pee.

1:33:27.240 --> 1:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Okay, I'll give it to the to

1:33:32.520 --> 1:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Rye Lane market.

1:33:34.479 --> 1:33:39.200
<v Speaker 6>Oh, I'm giving you five nipples. I totally hear your criticism,

1:33:39.320 --> 1:33:42.080
<v Speaker 6>and I am and this is problematic of me, but

1:33:42.120 --> 1:33:47.000
<v Speaker 6>I am giving it a pass on vibes. I loved

1:33:47.080 --> 1:33:49.960
<v Speaker 6>this movie. I was like, I don't know, it is

1:33:50.000 --> 1:33:53.720
<v Speaker 6>so nice going into it, because we've watched hundreds and

1:33:53.840 --> 1:33:56.880
<v Speaker 6>hundreds of movies for this show, and there I can

1:33:56.920 --> 1:34:00.960
<v Speaker 6>count on probably two hands when the times that I've

1:34:00.960 --> 1:34:03.280
<v Speaker 6>gone in to watch a movie for this show, and

1:34:03.320 --> 1:34:06.320
<v Speaker 6>it has been clear to me very quickly that like,

1:34:06.760 --> 1:34:10.000
<v Speaker 6>unless something wild happens, this is going to become a

1:34:10.040 --> 1:34:12.080
<v Speaker 6>movie that is like with me for the rest of

1:34:12.080 --> 1:34:14.840
<v Speaker 6>my life. And this was like that rare experience. I

1:34:14.880 --> 1:34:19.840
<v Speaker 6>was so happy. I'm giving it five nipples selfishly, but

1:34:19.960 --> 1:34:23.400
<v Speaker 6>also because I think it deserves it. I wish that

1:34:23.400 --> 1:34:26.480
<v Speaker 6>there were more movies like this, and I am actively

1:34:26.600 --> 1:34:30.040
<v Speaker 6>upset and have my suspicions as to like, why do

1:34:30.120 --> 1:34:35.000
<v Speaker 6>we not have wider releases of black rom coms internationally?

1:34:35.280 --> 1:34:38.719
<v Speaker 6>I think that that is a very pointed thing, because

1:34:38.760 --> 1:34:42.120
<v Speaker 6>there is no reason this should not have gotten a

1:34:42.160 --> 1:34:43.720
<v Speaker 6>wide release internationally.

1:34:44.520 --> 1:34:45.720
<v Speaker 4>It's so is so.

1:34:45.800 --> 1:34:50.559
<v Speaker 6>Many like Country Miles better than rom coms we've gotten

1:34:50.640 --> 1:34:54.720
<v Speaker 6>released internationally in the last several years. It's just like

1:34:54.760 --> 1:34:57.440
<v Speaker 6>if you haven't seen it, go see it. Five nipples,

1:34:57.520 --> 1:35:02.000
<v Speaker 6>distributing them equally between ray Now Miller and Vivian Opara,

1:35:02.680 --> 1:35:04.519
<v Speaker 6>my two parasocial friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful Shelly, how about you.

1:35:07.439 --> 1:35:11.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm surprisingly giving it five nipples.

1:35:11.320 --> 1:35:12.439
<v Speaker 1>WHOA.

1:35:12.520 --> 1:35:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm so sorry to shock everybody. I apologize.

1:35:15.360 --> 1:35:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I know I've been talking so much shit like for

1:35:17.000 --> 1:35:21.120
<v Speaker 2>the past three hours. Five nipples of course, because I think, well,

1:35:21.160 --> 1:35:23.600
<v Speaker 2>four nipples to just like the movie in itself and

1:35:23.600 --> 1:35:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the cast and Vivian and all of them. But the

1:35:28.040 --> 1:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>main nipple, the one nipple, also goes to just how

1:35:32.920 --> 1:35:35.360
<v Speaker 2>connected I am to this film. I feel like this

1:35:35.479 --> 1:35:39.519
<v Speaker 2>film was a part of a very personal experience for me.

1:35:39.920 --> 1:35:43.000
<v Speaker 2>It was my first sun Dance. I had been invited

1:35:43.040 --> 1:35:46.680
<v Speaker 2>on my own merits, like I write about film and

1:35:46.720 --> 1:35:49.559
<v Speaker 2>pop culture, and I got asked to come to this

1:35:49.640 --> 1:35:52.720
<v Speaker 2>huge fucking thing that like, honestly, a lot of like

1:35:53.080 --> 1:35:57.760
<v Speaker 2>marginalized culture writers, black culture writers specifically don't get invited to.

1:35:58.800 --> 1:36:02.479
<v Speaker 2>And I got invited to this place and I saw

1:36:02.520 --> 1:36:06.719
<v Speaker 2>this movie that made me feel like my whole sort

1:36:06.760 --> 1:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>of experience of writing and film kind of just came

1:36:09.400 --> 1:36:13.160
<v Speaker 2>all together. And then I learned who was behind the camera,

1:36:13.600 --> 1:36:15.160
<v Speaker 2>and then I got a chance to show it to

1:36:15.240 --> 1:36:18.519
<v Speaker 2>another like a group of just black people who were

1:36:18.800 --> 1:36:21.800
<v Speaker 2>who enjoyed it that night. Is just so close to me.

1:36:22.560 --> 1:36:25.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a rom com story and I love love, love, love,

1:36:26.000 --> 1:36:29.240
<v Speaker 2>love love. So it's like another big part of it

1:36:29.280 --> 1:36:31.559
<v Speaker 2>is that I didn't have to pretend to see myself

1:36:31.600 --> 1:36:35.320
<v Speaker 2>on the screen, and that mattered a lot to me

1:36:35.680 --> 1:36:39.800
<v Speaker 2>because it's twenty twenty five and I oftentimes still have

1:36:39.880 --> 1:36:44.280
<v Speaker 2>to do that. So Yeah, five nipples across the board.

1:36:44.840 --> 1:36:49.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Amazon, oh Shelly, thank you from the bottom of

1:36:49.960 --> 1:36:53.040
<v Speaker 6>our hearts for bringing us this wonderful movie to us

1:36:53.040 --> 1:36:54.920
<v Speaker 6>and the listeners if they haven't seen it, thank you

1:36:54.960 --> 1:36:55.599
<v Speaker 6>so much.

1:36:55.960 --> 1:36:59.519
<v Speaker 2>Of course, thank you for having me. I'm loving this

1:37:00.120 --> 1:37:02.400
<v Speaker 2>is that being here? This is my favorite. Oh wait,

1:37:02.400 --> 1:37:06.400
<v Speaker 2>can I give Can I say something, Jamie? I heard you, Mama,

1:37:06.439 --> 1:37:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I heard you on here to help pod? Okay, Oh

1:37:09.760 --> 1:37:12.160
<v Speaker 2>my god, let me tell you something. I listened to

1:37:12.320 --> 1:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>very few podcasts nowadays, just because like I feel like

1:37:15.360 --> 1:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>at one point I was listening to so many. You've

1:37:17.920 --> 1:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>narrowed it down to like five, of course, one of

1:37:20.280 --> 1:37:22.599
<v Speaker 2>which the beca c is a part of. But I

1:37:22.720 --> 1:37:25.439
<v Speaker 2>was listening and then I said, I know that voice

1:37:25.439 --> 1:37:28.120
<v Speaker 2>because I was I was watching. I was like, and

1:37:28.160 --> 1:37:30.880
<v Speaker 2>that is like one of my favorite podcasts in the

1:37:30.960 --> 1:37:35.120
<v Speaker 2>fucking world. So and you killed it, and I just

1:37:35.320 --> 1:37:37.240
<v Speaker 2>was so excited for you. I know both of you

1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:39.679
<v Speaker 2>are doing such big, cool things, but it's so cool

1:37:39.680 --> 1:37:41.439
<v Speaker 2>when people I know I get to hear them on

1:37:41.520 --> 1:37:43.360
<v Speaker 2>something and I just am so happy for you. And

1:37:43.640 --> 1:37:45.719
<v Speaker 2>you just killed it. It was funny, it was great.

1:37:45.960 --> 1:37:47.439
<v Speaker 4>I was really nervous. I'm glad you.

1:37:47.640 --> 1:37:49.439
<v Speaker 6>I'm glad you liked it because I was, like.

1:37:51.840 --> 1:37:54.160
<v Speaker 2>It was it was awesome. You held you definitely held

1:37:54.200 --> 1:37:56.800
<v Speaker 2>your own for sure. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you

1:37:56.840 --> 1:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>als for having me.

1:37:59.080 --> 1:38:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. It's all our treat.

1:38:01.000 --> 1:38:01.639
<v Speaker 4>It's our treat.

1:38:01.760 --> 1:38:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Truly come back anytime. To talk about Boxing day.

1:38:05.200 --> 1:38:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, for a boxing day, yes please.

1:38:08.880 --> 1:38:10.800
<v Speaker 2>That movie is so cute and there's gonna be a

1:38:10.840 --> 1:38:14.240
<v Speaker 2>second one. I hear, I don't know, but it's so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so so so cute. It's really cute.

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<v Speaker 4>An extremely boxing day.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, an extremely boxing day.

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<v Speaker 2>Very extremely boxing day.

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<v Speaker 6>I do kind of like this vibe that you are

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<v Speaker 6>foreshadowing your next episode in every previous appearance.

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<v Speaker 4>It makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>If I can find like a black queer summer movie

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<v Speaker 2>that I love that, I'm just gonna send the email

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, hello, everyone looks like I'm coming back

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<v Speaker 2>in jeer.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, please do please do amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can people find your writing, your work? Follow you

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us everything, So Hi Shelley dot com h I

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<v Speaker 2>s h E l L. I will get you to

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere I am, which is main just Instagram, where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Ao Shelley like a yo s h o I. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm on Letterbox at high Shelley Hi saht o I.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the only two that I use. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not on X, I guess I'm on Threads

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<v Speaker 2>because I also already have Instagram. But it's the same, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you can find all my stuff there, including

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<v Speaker 2>links to my substack, which I just getting back into

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<v Speaker 2>and but yeah, I love it, So subscribe to my

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<v Speaker 2>substack because I'm fun and I'm awesome and I'm very pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so true.

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<v Speaker 6>I just followed you on letterbox and what is number

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<v Speaker 6>one on your favorite films? But Riley exactly walking the

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<v Speaker 6>walk as far walking the walk.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I am being I'm for real about this shit.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this rocks.

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<v Speaker 4>Try not to panic.

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<v Speaker 2>I was wondering what the other one. I knew.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a heated battle between There's so many roady

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<v Speaker 4>movies I have so bad.

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