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Speaker 1: On the Bechdel Cast.

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Speaker 2: The questions asked if movies have.

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Speaker 3: Women and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,

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Speaker 3: or do they have individualism? It's the patriarchy, zeph and

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Speaker 3: best start changing it with the Bechdel Cast.

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Speaker 1: Oi, it's the Roy Lane episode, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to participate in this.

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Speaker 5: I think that this is quite frankly disrespectful and I'll

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Speaker 5: say it problematic, leaving me out to when I just

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Speaker 5: want to apologize to the British community for what has

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Speaker 5: taken place.

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Speaker 4: On this show today.

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Speaker 6: And then the episode just ends hard cutout. No, I

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Speaker 6: thought it was funny, grow up Britz thinks. Welcome to

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Speaker 6: the Bechdel Cast. My name is Jamie Loftus.

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Speaker 1: My name is Caitlin Derntae. This is our podcast where

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Speaker 1: we examine movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using the

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Speaker 1: Bechdel test simply as a jumping off point. What's the

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Speaker 1: though in it?

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Speaker 4: Well, here's what it in it.

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Speaker 6: It is a media metric created by queer cartoonist Alison

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Speaker 6: Bechtel back in I Believe the eighties for her famous

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Speaker 6: comic collection Digs to Watch Out For, often called the

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Speaker 6: Bechdel Wallace Test because it was co created with her

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Speaker 6: friend Liz Wallace.

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Speaker 4: That makes sense.

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Speaker 6: It was originally intended as a way of talking about

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Speaker 6: how little queer representation of queer women there was in movies,

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Speaker 6: but has since evolved to be compheaded to death. The

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Speaker 6: version that we use of this test requires that there

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Speaker 6: be two characters with names of a marginalized gender who

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Speaker 6: speak to each other about something other than a man

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Speaker 6: for two lines of dialogue or more. Should be a

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Speaker 6: meaningful interaction, not super worried. Today, we don't need to

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Speaker 6: get into it much further because today we don't just

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Speaker 6: have a wonderful movie to discuss. We have an incredible

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Speaker 6: returning guest.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she's a culture writer. You've seen her

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Speaker 1: work in Architectural Digest Vogue as well as her substeck

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Speaker 1: Hi Shelley, and you remember her from such episodes as

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what's that Detroit Buffalo?

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Speaker 4: Buffaloed Buffalo? Do you say Detroited?

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Speaker 1: I almost said Detroitters?

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Speaker 4: Detroitters?

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Speaker 2: Oh great, the show that I still refuse to watch. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: look I guess I'll watch it. I've never seen it

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Speaker 2: and think it's funny to watch it.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'll start anyway. It's Shelley Nicole. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: You know, thanks for being here. Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I love the accent slipping out. Honestly, I

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Speaker 2: love it.

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Speaker 4: And we are talking about Rye Lane today. I'm so

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Speaker 4: excited you you introduced me to this movie. So did

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Speaker 4: I really? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's my favorite thing.

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Speaker 1: It's so good.

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Speaker 2: I will not start talking about it straight away. I'll

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Speaker 4: No, No, it's just it's it's so good.

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Speaker 6: And I know that all of our histories will be

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Speaker 6: relatively short because this movie came out very recently. It

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Speaker 6: came out in twenty twenty three, directed by Rain Allen Miller,

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Speaker 6: written by Nathan Brian and Tom.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing. So it was my You know

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Speaker 2: my first ever Sundance, and this was God, I think

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Speaker 2: it was my first ever Sundance and I had asked

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Speaker 2: And then it came out on Hulu and it didn't

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Speaker 2: This movie just means like a lot to me. I

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Speaker 4: That's a story. That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love this movie so much. I love this movie.

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Speaker 4: Oh that makes me so happy, Jamie, what about you?

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Speaker 6: That is incredible? I nothing even remotely close. I wish

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah yeah, and definitely would have given what I

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Speaker 2: But so many people like haven't really seen it, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's still on Hulu but still haven't watched it.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, we just covered the Before trilogy.

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Speaker 6: where it's just I love a movie where two people

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Speaker 4: I really like it doesn't meander at all, Like I.

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Speaker 4: It's so much fun. The performances are great, and I

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Speaker 4: Oh it was? It's yes, I loved it. Yeah, Kaitlyn,

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Speaker 4: what was your history with this movie?

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Speaker 3: X y Z.

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Speaker 1: The recap of Rye Lane. So we meet Dom played

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Speaker 1: He is crying over a recent breakup. He's like scrolling

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Speaker 6: He's so like Tumblr boyfriend losing.

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Speaker 1: I think I own everything that Dom is wearing, Like

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Speaker 2: Sorry spoil this movie is very happy.

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Speaker 4: You thought I was like a cool girl who among us?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and Dom is there because he's supporting his friend

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Speaker 1: But they leave the gallery at the same time and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like a thing like a wrongcom trip.

442
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 6: I hadn't even thought about it in a long time.

443
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 6: But it's like the well I'm doing this now, but

444
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 6: what I really to do this?

445
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 4: Yes, He's like, this is what I'm doing now, and

446
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 4: it's all I ever really want to do.

447
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 6: I'm pretty happy, I'm happy to say, right, which makes

448
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 6: his heartbreak even more sad because it's like he had

449
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 6: his life was the way he wanted it to be,

450
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 6: but he had to meet.

451
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 4: Yes, it's just how it had to go.

452
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: He just had to.

453
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 6: I also love that, just the idea of like a

454
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 6: gender neutral bathroom being around meeting space. I'm like, yeah,

455
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 6: and it's not commented on. It is just a gender

456
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 6: neutral bathroom. They're everywhere, you know. I just thought that

457
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 6: was really cool.

458
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: I did too, and I'm glad you pointed that out.

459
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: Plus there's also some other like stuff that like they

460
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 2: usually hit us over the head with in films like

461
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: ones especially after like what twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, But

462
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: this whole like they just happened to meet that. No

463
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: one talks about it, No one has to say it again, like, oh,

464
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 2: I saw this guy with pink converses in the gender

465
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: neutral bathroom, and it's like, no, you knew that it

466
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: happened there and that was it, Like okay, and it

467
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: was so great.

468
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: I love Yes.

469
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

470
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of recent movies that are

471
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: making attempts to include things like that are like really

472
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: like patting themselves.

473
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 6: On the back.

474
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: You're like, it's a bathroom.

475
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: She's a potty, everybody relaxed, a shitter.

476
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: It's not that big idea.

477
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like, if your goal is realism, who would

478
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 6: be like here we are in the gender neutral bathroom,

479
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 6: Like right, yeah, okay.

480
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: So we've learned that he's an accountant. We also learned

481
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: that he recently moved back in with his parents, I

482
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: think because of the breakup. We learned that Yeah, works

483
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: as a fashion buyer, but her dream is to be

484
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: a costume designer for movies, TV entertainment. We learn also

485
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: that Dom is on his way to meet up with

486
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: his ex girlfriend for the first time since their breakup.

487
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: That is such a bad walk. I was really like

488
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 4: put into a very specific state of mind. You're like,

489
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 4: this is one of the most miserable walks of his life.

490
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 4: How lucky that the love of his life is there

491
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 4: with him.

492
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: Right, and so that's what he's on his way to do.

493
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: Yes reveals that she also recently went through a breakup,

494
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: though for her she was the dumper rather than the dumpy,

495
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, he sucked and I walked away.

496
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: And Dom is like, oh, that's so iconic. Good for you,

497
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: and she's like, right right, She's like, yes, exactly, that's.

498
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 4: So me and I would do it again.

499
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 6: I just I love her. I've done that where you're like,

500
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 6: I'm never gonna see this guy again. Why not be

501
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 6: the coolest person in the world to this person will

502
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 6: never see again.

503
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 1: And make up a huge fabricated story.

504
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 4: Oh, it's the person you end up in a long

505
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 4: term relationship.

506
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: So Dom tells her more about his breakup, how he

507
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: his girlfriend cheating on him with his best mate Eric,

508
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: who will also be present for this meeting. To clear

509
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: the air, I.

510
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: Hate Eric, I hate Eric, I.

511
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 2: Hate both of them.

512
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 6: Pile of rocks for brains in that air, everyone is

513
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 6: I really like Dom has this and I mean this

514
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 6: in the nicest way.

515
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 4: He has this like Charlie Brown quality, to him. Yes,

516
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: where he just like no one respects him and there's

517
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 4: no reason why. He's a very sweet person, and I'm

518
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 4: just it just feels like people are just yanking footballs

519
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: from beneath this guy. Left and right.

520
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate bothom and I hate that he agreed

521
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: to this meeting, Like I hate that he's going here.

522
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: I hated every second of it. I mean like loved, hated,

523
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: but like, why are you doing this? Because this was

524
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: not for him? This was one hundred percent for her

525
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: to make her feel better about what.

526
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 4: She did, and she's bringing Eric.

527
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 6: I would be like, even I would have enough dignity

528
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 6: to be like, well, no, you can't bring him.

529
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: What do you mean by all you can eat restaurant?

530
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 6: Oh my god, have I Theraphy been to a place

531
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 6: like that. I had like a work functions that took

532
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 6: place at I think then MICUs. It was like it

533
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 6: was a Korean barbecue, but there are no a Brazilian

534
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 6: barbecue with the cards and it is one of the

535
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 6: most stressful eating environments I've ever been in because I

536
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 6: was working Kitlin and was when I was working at

537
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 6: the Comedy Theater in Boston, and it's like a very

538
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 6: male dominated space and they were competitively like getting.

539
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 4: The meat sweats. They were like, don't turn the card

540
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 4: to red.

541
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 6: And I was like one of two women there and

542
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 6: I was like, this is my nightmare. It's like men

543
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 6: trying to eat meat until they die to prove a point.

544
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 4: It was, Oh my god. It's a great place to

545
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 4: set a scene.

546
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 6: I loved because it just adds tension of like, and

547
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 6: the most annoying person in this scene will be eating

548
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 6: meat the whole time.

549
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: Why it's I mean, it adds to the humor. I

550
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: can't complain. So Dom and Yes arrive at this meeting

551
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: spot at this restaurant. She offers to go in with him,

552
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, no offense, but this is important and

553
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: you're basically a random person, so no, thank you, fair

554
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: And she says fair and they part ways. So Dom

555
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: goes in Gia his ex, and Eric his best mate

556
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: or formerly best mate.

557
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: Let's hope.

558
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: So, but then is it not Eric who helps him move?

559
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: Ye?

560
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: Later in the it is so they're hanging out again.

561
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know that Eric is a puzzle to me.

562
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 6: He's a total cipher.

563
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, what is good? What is going on in

564
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: this man's head has to be nothing for anything. He

565
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 4: makes sense.

566
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 6: I do feel like I've met a handful of people

567
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 6: like this in my life, where he's like, well, I

568
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 6: like them both, so I guess without thinking about the

569
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 6: traumatic interpersonal stuff, He's like, what, they're both fine in

570
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 6: my book, they didn't do anything to me.

571
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: Like he also gets fired for peeing in bottles and

572
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: leaving them in his work locker and then being like,

573
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: that's not what that is.

574
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: He's like, they're so political there, I can't believe it.

575
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 6: My brother had a roommate like that once. He had

576
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 6: a peepea bottle roommate pepe bottle. I'm wondering how common

577
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 6: an experience this is for CIS men, because when my

578
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 6: brother brought it up, he's like, it's happened to my

579
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 6: friend too.

580
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 4: I was like, what, Oh, but there's a lot of

581
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 4: peep bottle guys out there.

582
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: I think I remember. Isn't like, what's the peepee bottle guy?

583
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

584
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: Wait, it's Frank.

585
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 6: I think it's Frank, because this is the type of

586
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 6: guy that's out that we believe they walk among us.

587
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: Don't see that. That's terrifying. You could walk fast one

588
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: and not even know it.

589
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's happened more times than.

590
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: One could be your friend.

591
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 6: I did did a guy once that had an emergency

592
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 6: bottle in his car and cause he had to pee

593
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 6: too much. And I'm just like, not suffer, suffer, I

594
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 6: guess at the end of the just just suffer.

595
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: And also if that is so necessary, please don't tell

596
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: me about it.

597
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 6: No, but yeah, I like again, just like such a

598
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 6: good specific of like an he's.

599
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: A Peea bottle guy, and.

600
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 6: Of course and none of them ever think a thing

601
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 6: of it. They're like, it's good for the environment. And

602
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 6: it was like, no, that wasn't that Frank's thing, the.

603
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: Peep bottle guys. Yeah, because he was making sun tea

604
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: he said, like rockets.

605
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was like watering his plants with them,

606
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: something I forget.

607
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 4: But it's like a survivalist thing too.

608
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 6: I feel like it's this weird, hyper macho survivalist like

609
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 6: bear grills lived, like, don't do that.

610
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: At least in water World, Kevin Costner peas into this

611
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: apparatus that like filters his pee into drinkable water afterward, So.

612
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 6: We should do water I've never seen I've only seen

613
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 6: the live show at Universal.

614
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: Syd which I'm saying is not canon. That's really cool.

615
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: It takes the vibes from water World the Future film

616
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: and really emulates them. Water World the movie is not

617
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: good and I hate Kevin Costner, so I have no

618
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: wish to cover water World, but I would.

619
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 6: It's my brother in law's favorite movie, which like whoa.

620
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 6: My cousin told me this. She like said it in

621
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 6: a low voice. She was like, she was like, it's

622
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 6: Justin's favor movie. I was like, what She's like, I

623
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 6: don't know.

624
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

625
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: I kind of want to watch it now. I've never

626
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: seen anything.

627
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 4: Don't they drink pea in Dune? I haven't seen those mean,

628
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: oh you.

629
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Know they might. I kind of forget. I have seen

630
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: the available Dune movies. Oh not the David Lynch one,

631
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: but the Dinny ones, and I could not tell you

632
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: a single thing that happens in any of them. I

633
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: don't understand what those movies are about anyway.

634
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 6: Anyways, Yeah, I mean in general, like, if you could

635
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 6: avoid putting your pea and bottles, you should think that's

636
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 6: a fair boundary.

637
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: I agree.

638
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

639
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: Anyway, so Eric, the peepea bottle guy is there, as

640
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: is Gia, and they basically ask for permission from Dom

641
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: to not feel guilty anymore about the huge betrayal they

642
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: committed against him. They just like don't want to hold

643
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 1: themselves accountable at all. And just then Yas comes in

644
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: pretending to be Dom's new lover, saying that they met

645
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: recently at this epic karaoke night they hit it off

646
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: their you know, sexual chemistry was rippling throughout the room

647
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: love and Shea is like very jealous, and.

648
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, because Gia is I feel like the darkest side

649
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 6: of many of us, where she's like this dinner to

650
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 6: basically humiliate her ex who is already like she's just

651
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 6: kicking him while she's down, but the idea of him

652
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 6: moving on makes her so upset.

653
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like I just feel like.

654
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 6: This is a very dark part that exists in everyone personified.

655
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 6: And You're just like sitting at Gia their soulmates, and

656
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 6: you're dating pee Pee bottle guys.

657
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: Right, it's the thing of like I am over them,

658
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: but I don't want them to be over me, or like.

659
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, it's like a narcissistic thing.

660
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I don't really like them, but I want

661
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: them to have a crush on me, Like I've definitely

662
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: felt that and.

663
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 4: I've done it.

664
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's like who among us hasn't been

665
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 6: like if this person I'm disinterested in doesn't want to

666
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 6: marry me, I'll die And like what is that? I've

667
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 6: definitely been guilty of it. But it's like you just

668
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 6: want to win for Dom so bad at this point.

669
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 6: That is so awesome when Yas comes in.

670
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: Right, because she comes in again, their chemistry palpable, and

671
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: also Yes quickly abandons any sense of pleasantries and be

672
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: rates Gia for cheating on Dom with you know, peepee

673
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 1: bottle dipshit Eric.

674
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

675
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, And she's a neutral party. She could just be like,

676
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 6: clearly he sucks and you're mad about.

677
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: It, like and you shows him like please.

678
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: Oh, I love it.

679
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: Right, And so she comes in with this very like

680
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: mic drop moment and then Dom and Yes run out

681
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: afterward and they're high on the energy. They get some

682
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: food together, which are burritos served to them by Colin

683
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Firth at a place called Love Guactually.

684
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: So many layers to this bit, so many, and it's

685
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: a perfect bit. Like I I was in the theater

686
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: and I called myself the Leonardo DiCaprio meme like, because

687
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: I was just very much like, oh my gosh. And

688
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: then I did it again. When I saw the name

689
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: of the place, I was like, oh my god, are

690
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 2: you kidding?

691
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 6: Like it is so I mean, if you're a fan

692
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 6: of rom coms at all, it's very clear what's happening here.

693
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: But I was curious, Yeah, like what how this happened?

694
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 6: Because it's so wrong com. It's also so British, so

695
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 6: it's there's just multiple layers. So yeah, but the most

696
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 6: I was able to find was Rain Allen. Miller explained

697
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 6: how this came together sort of in our radio interview.

698
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 6: So she says, I decided I really want to do

699
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 6: this thing where we have a shop that's like about

700
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 6: a burrito or something. I said it to my partner

701
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 6: and I was like, it has to be somebody like

702
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 6: you know who in there, and my partner just suddenly

703
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 6: came out and went, what about love quactually, and I

704
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 6: was like, oh my god. And it was the best

705
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 6: thing ever.

706
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: And so I guess they just like reached out reverse

707
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: engineered yea.

708
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 6: And yeah, it was so cool. And she viewed this

709
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 6: as sort of like a baton pass. David Johnson also,

710
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 6: I don't know, like they.

711
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 4: Were superstarstruck because it's such a weird thing that happened.

712
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: They also call him callin. Yeah, I wonder if he's

713
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: playing himself.

714
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: What are you doing here? Why don't you have a

715
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: bored tell me what's going on?

716
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, and.

717
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 6: I guess that they like all it sounds like it

718
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 6: was like a very magical day on set.

719
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: And like David Johnson said, I just thought it was

720
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 4: you know, he's absolutely incredible and he was so humble,

721
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 4: so kind and giving, and it was just like a dream.

722
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: And he gave us the best spits of advice for

723
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 4: our career, like a real career, and hopefully we used them.

724
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, it's so sweet.

725
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 2: I'm glad he was nice, because if he was mean,

726
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: I would be damn.

727
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 4: Hopefully, I mean never say never. Hopefully if he was

728
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: a horrible person, we would know by now. I don't know,

729
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: but I just I just love that.

730
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 6: Like every recollection of this is like everyone's gushing like woooo,

731
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 6: this was so fun and it's such a sweet, weird

732
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 6: moment that is not replicated anywhere else.

733
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 4: In the movie.

734
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: Right, this seems like the type of thing that could

735
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: be like a running bit if like later they run

736
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: into like Hugh Grant or something.

737
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I wouldn't be mad. I wouldn't be mad, right,

738
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 4: but uh no, it was.

739
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: It was a great little one off joke. Also, love guactually,

740
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's how I would pronounce it. It makes

741
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: me wonder if, like with an English accent.

742
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: I think they might say they.

743
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 4: Do actually, Yeah, it actually doesn't work here.

744
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it is love actually actually, which just hurts

745
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: my feelings that way.

746
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: Love guacchole, Yeah, guacasole.

747
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: Guacachole doesn't quite work here in the same way.

748
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 6: But anyways, just a very very sweet moment in the

749
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 6: sweetest movie ever.

750
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: Yes, So they get their burritos and then they walk

751
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: through a park they talk talk a little bit more

752
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: about their recent breakups. Yes says that one of the

753
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: reasons she broke up with her boyfriend is that she's like,

754
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, when there's a bunch of tourists on a

755
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: boat and they wave at you, Well, he was the

756
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: type of person who wouldn't wave back, and I want

757
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: someone who will waves back.

758
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: This is like such a perfect rom com line because.

759
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: It makes sense too, Like you want someone who like

760
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: waves beadind because it shows that you're just kind, you're playful,

761
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: you're like sweet, and you're not just like, ugh, that's

762
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: just not cute.

763
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 4: You're not too good for anything, Like, no, it's so cute.

764
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: And then we get oh, I don't want to Well,

765
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: keep going.

766
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: It pays off later. Yeah, it's so.

767
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 4: It's perfect realm com writing. It's perfect roalm com writing.

768
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: I love it, Yeah, for sure. So then they head

769
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: to a bar. Yes gets a call about a costume

770
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: designer job interview, which she blows off like it's supposed

771
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: to be that day and she's just like, can't make

772
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: a sorry buy. She then tells Dom more about her

773
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: relationship ending Her ex boyfriend Jules was this like self righteous,

774
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: joyless guy who was unkind to her. So she pretended

775
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: like she was about to give him head and then

776
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 1: instead dumped a bunch of hummus that she made on

777
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: his dick and got the fuck out. That's how they

778
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: broke up.

779
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 6: The way that that scene is shot, I mean, we'll

780
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 6: talk about the cinematography and a bit, but like the

781
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 6: way it's especially when you learn what happens later in

782
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 6: the movie, it makes even more sense because it shot

783
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 6: like a dream sequence.

784
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I just ugh the way this movie is.

785
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 6: I saw some people being like I normally wouldn't like

786
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 6: Fish Eye View, but this movie is so good that

787
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 6: I quickly forgot about it. And I mean, I don't

788
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 6: have any As a former MySpace girly, I have no

789
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 6: issue with a fish Eye lent absolutely and I I

790
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 6: was like, yes, this is closed, this is my culture

791
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 6: limography anyone Boca affect anybody.

792
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 4: But like it's just so cool and a word. I

793
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 4: was telling my fiance about this.

794
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, her fiance I love ram, I love comm.

795
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: But but I was telling him. I was like, it's just.

796
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 6: So cool to see a like current rom com that

797
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 6: is actually stylized and isn't just so again, like when

798
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 6: you think about a rom com streaming on Hulu, which

799
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 6: this shouldn't have been exclusively, but like you just think

800
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 6: of total flat no color editing, like just Ai looking

801
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 6: kind of an editing style, And this.

802
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: Movie is so visually cool in a way that all

803
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: rom coms deserve to be and are not.

804
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: Totally right because like it's like the artistry of film

805
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: the I think gives a lot of like film bros.

806
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: What they think is permission to discard movies that like

807
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: don't have very stylized things, and because rom coms usually don't,

808
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: they're like.

809
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 4: Well, that's not real cinema.

810
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 6: I like, dude, even though it right, name one thing

811
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 6: that happens in Dude, your.

812
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: End, but you know it's not tho all movies have

813
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: to be super super stylized or anything like that. But

814
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: I do appreciate that this one is because it just

815
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: it elevates it so plus they.

816
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: Needed to for the we'll probably get into this, but

817
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: they needed to film it so stylized without the color

818
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: and the lighting and stuff because both leads and most

819
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: people in the movie are dark skin and like they

820
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: really makes them pop. Like in most rhyme coms, you

821
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about the lighting and the colors

822
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: because you usually have just two pale white people or

823
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: like some like interracial couple or something like that. But

824
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: this one, like everyone is most of the cast is

825
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: like dark skinned folks, so even background actors and like

826
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: extra like. So I think that added into why they

827
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: needed to shoot it such a way or like specifically,

828
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 2: it also helped bring out the beauty in the story

829
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: and the people all at the same time by shooting

830
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: it such a stylized way. It reminds me of Insecure,

831
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: Like everyone always talks about if you ever need to

832
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: see like no one in the world can ever say

833
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: you can't shoot black people a certain way, because just

834
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: look at Insecure, Like there's nighttime scenes, there's scenes where

835
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: it's really dark inside the house and it's still so

836
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: vibrant and like, so yeah.

837
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 6: It's like if you say you can't do it's because

838
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 6: you're fucking's lazy exactly at best, exactly just like some

839
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 6: of my favorite background acting I've ever seen where it's

840
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 6: just so like I'm so curious, like how casting worked

841
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 6: for this movie, because every background actor is doing something

842
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 6: specific and funny and just like draws you like doesn't

843
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 6: distract from the story, but also like makes you feel

844
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 6: a real love for the communities that they're walking through,

845
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 6: because it's just like people.

846
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 4: Going about their business, but in like a very i

847
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: don't know, like sweet wholesome way.

848
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 6: I think about like the two school kids who were

849
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 6: playing some weird game in the background of one scene,

850
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 6: You're just like.

851
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: Think about the balloon lady when they're.

852
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: Going, yeah, she's like popping all over balloons trying to

853
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: get out.

854
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 4: The door right right, Like it's just like a more

855
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 4: magical version of the real world. It's so special. Anyways,

856
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 4: what's happening in the movie?

857
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: Oh, let me tell you?

858
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: So?

859
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: She has just dumped her boyfriend by pouring hummus on

860
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: his penis, but in her haste to leave, she accidentally

861
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: leaves behind her cherished a tribe called quest Record Damn.

862
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: So Dom is like, well, you helped me, now I'm

863
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna help you get your record back.

864
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 4: It's also partially so that they don't have to stop

865
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: stopping out.

866
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 6: She's just such a sweet thing where it's like they

867
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 6: have to keep finding these excuses before one of them

868
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 6: finally has to be like, I like you, please don't.

869
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: Leave before sunrise.

870
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: I know.

871
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: It's so great.

872
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, so they try to get into the ex boyfriend,

873
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: Jules's place because he's out of town right now, but

874
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: when they try to get in via the key that

875
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: yeahes has, she realized that he has changed the locks.

876
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: So then they go to Jules's two moms' place to

877
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: look for a sparakee.

878
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: Such a fun detour.

879
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: If you're not paying attention, you might miss it, you

880
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: kind of might miss it, you kind of might be like,

881
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: wait what because I think I know, I know that

882
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: I did not. First of all, that's a lie, but

883
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: I think I definitely did have to do a double tape,

884
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: Like I had to pay attention and look at the

885
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: house and the pictures and stuff, and I was like, ah, okay, cool,

886
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: mm hmm.

887
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: And so they show up at this house and it

888
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: turns out that they're throwing a party, so Dom's like

889
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: hanging out at the barbecue. They're judging him for the

890
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: music on his phone because it's all like sad breakup music.

891
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: There's high jinks with Dom looking through the moms's underwear drawer.

892
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: Then at one point, Dom overhears Yaz telling Jules's moms

893
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: that she's only hanging out with Dom because she heard

894
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: him crying in the bathroom and felt sorry for him.

895
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: Dom is sad. They eventually leave the house and he

896
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: confronts her about this and she's like, yeah, I did

897
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: feel sorry for you, but I'm also enjoying hanging out

898
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: with you, but now we're.

899
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: In love, right, It's okay, We're fine.

900
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they discussed possibly hanging out again at some point,

901
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: so they numbers and then they part ways cut two.

902
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: They're together again moments later on a mopead because Yaz

903
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: learned that even though the moms didn't end up having

904
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: a key to Jules's flat, Yeas's friend Mona does. So

905
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: they go to Mona, who runs a karaoke night at

906
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: a club.

907
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 4: Oh and now we're coming full sick.

908
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: Yes, I love it.

909
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: When they were on the moped, it was a stormsy song,

910
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 2: which like iconic, like so good, so good, so good.

911
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: So it's a great soundtrack because then they go and

912
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: sing Shoop by Salt and Peppa at the karaoke night.

913
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: In the dorkiest way place.

914
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: It's so cute. But they're bringing down the house.

915
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 4: Well not at first, but only together.

916
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: Not at first yeah, yeah, so great.

917
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when they joined forces, they kill it, just

918
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: like how they described in the fake story of how

919
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: they met that they to Gia and it's exciting.

920
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: It's so exciting.

921
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 6: The first time I saw it, I like my job.

922
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 6: I was, like I truly did, because usually I mean,

923
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 6: in a subpar rom come, you can see a scene

924
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 6: like that coming from a mile away, and I did

925
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 6: not see it coming at any organic and sweet.

926
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 2: And not corny, Like not I mean like corny in

927
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: the sense of they're doing this karaoke woman, but not.

928
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't corny. It was so cute. It was like, damn,

929
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 2: they're really realizing more how much they like each other.

930
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 2: And also in that moment, too, we get to see

931
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: a little bit of Vivian Opero's character. Yet you could

932
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: see the real her. She's like, not this girl, She's

933
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: not that girl that she's been for the past like

934
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: seven hours. She maybe a little bit, but it's not

935
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: really her, you know.

936
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, she does like retreat into herself a bit.

937
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really Oh my god, I just loved it.

938
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 6: Where you realize I mean that is like a very

939
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 6: special moment in any like any kind of relationship too.

940
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 6: I think, like in a friendship, a romantic relationship, a

941
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 6: family relationship, where you just realize someone is a little

942
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 6: shyer than you thought they were is such an intimate,

943
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 6: sweet thing.

944
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: So they sing the karaoke song and they're like all

945
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: energized from that, and then they make out a little bit,

946
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: and then they head back to Jules's place with the

947
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: key and they get inside, but just then Jules and

948
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: his new girlfriend Tabby come in and they're like, what

949
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing here? And we get the

950
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 1: real story of what happened between Yeahs and Jules. He

951
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: was actually the one to break up. He was actually

952
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: the one to break up with her because she was

953
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: a mess and like, yeah, that was.

954
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: Nasty work, that was good, that was so good, well done,

955
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: I try my best.

956
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: He breaks up with her because she's a mess and

957
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: like she didn't have the guts to pursue her artistic

958
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: dreams and she was just generally a messy person. Dom

959
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: and Yes eventually leave Jules's place with the record, but

960
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: Dom confronts her about lying to him, especially because he

961
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: had been so honest with her, and he's like, you

962
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: set a very bad precedent by lying to me from

963
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: the very jump. And she does not handle this criticism

964
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: well and he doesn't trust her now. So they part

965
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: ways this time, you know, not to reconvene anytime soon.

966
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: They wallow in sadness separately for a while. Some time

967
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: passes and they start to carry on with their lives.

968
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 4: I mean, certain rom come troupes must happen, no matter.

969
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to have that montage, you have to

970
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: have like yearning. But I'm not going to say anything

971
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: because I'm rightfully mad at you. But the other one

972
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: doesn't know how to like swallow their pride.

973
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 4: And they're like, I'm over it, I swear. Yeah.

974
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 6: And the fact that they set this in and I

975
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 6: do like that because it's like earlier, it's kind of

976
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 6: left as this hanging question of like, is yeahs going

977
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 6: to keep pursuing this career. It seems like she's really

978
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 6: on the fence about it, and that, as we later learn,

979
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 6: it's like part of her own insecurity that she doesn't

980
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 6: feel comfortable really throwing herself into it all the way.

981
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 4: And so having that time of part sometimes is necessary

982
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 4: because it's so easy to get pulled into a relationship

983
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: and be like I have love, I don't need personal satisfay.

984
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: It's just never true. Never to hear that today, it's

985
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 4: never true. Yeah, you need both.

986
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: So they start to carry on with their lives. They're

987
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: going on dates with other people. Yeah, this has an

988
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: interview for a costume designer job that she actually goes

989
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: on this time and gets the job the Alien movie.

990
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, so British for them to keep calm and carry

991
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 6: on classic that.

992
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: I also love that there's a scene where like Yaz

993
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: is talking to the director and their conversation is like

994
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: mapped on. It's like very meta because the director is like,

995
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: this is the big climax of the movie, so there

996
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: needs to be this big grand moment, and it's basically

997
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: just like narrating what Yaz needs to do in the

998
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: movie that we're watching. It's really fun.

999
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 6: I loved and it's like this again, like toes the

1000
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 6: line so effortlessly where I think that there's a way

1001
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 6: to do that scene that has that's like, here's my

1002
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 6: rom com. It has nothing but antipathy for any other

1003
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 6: rom com. But even when this movie is subverting the

1004
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 6: rom com, it still feels like it comes with like

1005
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 6: a genuine affection for the genre, and it's just like

1006
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 6: building on it versus being like.

1007
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 4: This fucking sucks. Like it's just like it's sweet and funny.

1008
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 4: It's not antagonistic.

1009
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I had no at this point too.

1010
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: I know we're gonna first talk about with the movie

1011
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: like how it happens, but I kinda didn't know. I

1012
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: did think it was gonna be very love Jonesy right

1013
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: where it's like they weren't gonna.

1014
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 4: Write maybe get but it was cool.

1015
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: I was gonna be fine with that because it was

1016
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: very much like you could see how they still affected

1017
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: and touched each other's lives as they were moving on,

1018
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: Like she was starting to go on these interviews, she

1019
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: was being more self assured about herself. She was being

1020
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: honest with herself and then him when he was like,

1021
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 2: I gotta get out of this house, Like I gotta

1022
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: get back out there. I am a dope person, and

1023
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 2: her sort of like extrovertness sort of tapped into him

1024
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: and then vice versa. It was just so if it

1025
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: didn't go the way of a normal rom com of

1026
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: being like happily ever after, I'd have been cool with that,

1027
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: like honestly, yeah, yeah.

1028
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: Because it's still satisfying to watch them, like having affected

1029
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: each other in positive ways.

1030
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 4: Yeah because either way. Yeah, like their lives are better

1031
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: for having known each other. And then the super sentimental

1032
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 4: part of yourself is like they are adapt Yes, how

1033
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 4: does it ends? It end? I want to talk about

1034
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 4: how it ends.

1035
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: It's so cute. I love that I tell us, tell us, Okay, so, uh,

1036
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: she's gotten this job. She also realizes that she misses

1037
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: dom and that she has feelings for him and that

1038
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: maybe she should do some grand gesture to try to

1039
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: win him back, because they had discussed previously that he

1040
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: was always the one doing grand gestures in his relationship

1041
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: that were met with like.

1042
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 6: Just like made me tear up. Is like, if you're

1043
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 6: the grand gesture person in a relationship, it is so

1044
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 6: satisfying to see someone.

1045
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 4: Do that for the other person. It's just so sweet.

1046
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: I'm like almost crying now.

1047
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: It's so nice and that's so true, the fact that

1048
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: she's and actually like I did cry and I'm not

1049
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: a crowder girl, but the first time I was like,

1050
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: oh my god, because you're right like watching that, it's

1051
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: there were so many layers of satisfaction for the viewer,

1052
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: being like, if you're this person and you are usually

1053
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: doing all this, but guess what you're about to see

1054
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: it happen like for you essentially, and also fuck his

1055
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: ex on a whole other level, because if you've rent

1056
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 2: out a chicken shop that we had our first date

1057
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: out and all of and I'm sitting there like this

1058
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: is so.

1059
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 4: Like gets again British mode.

1060
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 6: They had a chicken shop date up like the famous series,

1061
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 6: and she was like, this does nothing for me, I'm

1062
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 6: like this, this is British cannon.

1063
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: Come on it wait because it was their anniversary and

1064
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: he rented it out.

1065
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, how could you not? If you don't melt into

1066
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 4: a pile of goo, grow a heart.

1067
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 2: It's like, are you kidding? I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't.

1068
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 2: She's a grinch. It reminded me a quick story of

1069
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: my dad and my mom. My mom and dad, one

1070
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: of their first dates were I like a Big Boy,

1071
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: And this is like early seventies, and they went to

1072
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 2: Big Boy and she would always get she got extra food,

1073
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: like because she had like six brothers and sisters or whatever.

1074
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: And the only way that she could go out with

1075
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 2: him is if he brought food back home for anyway.

1076
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: I remember years later my parents just celebrated their forty

1077
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: six year or something like that, but this was like

1078
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: maybe fifteen years ago. My dad was like, make sure

1079
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: your mom has a really nice dress, a really pretty outfit,

1080
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: make sure she can get her hair done, all this

1081
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: stuff like that. He didn't tell her where she's going.

1082
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: He didn't tell me where he's going. Why did he

1083
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: make her? And they both got really glammed up. He

1084
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: took her to the Big Boy Boy, the one that

1085
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: they went. I was like, everybody, shut up. I honestly

1086
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: think my mom was half and half. She was half

1087
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: like this is very romantic, and the other half was like,

1088
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: are you kidding. Yeah.

1089
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 6: It was like maybe when you get older you're like, yeah, hey,

1090
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 6: I've been here.

1091
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: But it's just like, so it was so cute, and

1092
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that his girl ex was like just

1093
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 2: it just showed how much she wasn't for him.

1094
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: She's like, I filled in my eyebrows.

1095
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: For this and it wasn't even that good. That's a lie.

1096
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Speaker 2: Her eyebrow sifting cradle.

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00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, she's gorgeous. It's yeah, I don't know.

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00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 6: I yeah, my fiancey proposed to be like we basically

1099
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 6: went on our first date again. We went on the

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00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 6: same walk we went on on our first date, and yeah,

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00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 6: I was sobbing the whole time because I knew it

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00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 6: was going to happen because I basically planned it, but

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00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 6: I hadn't planned it being our first date again.

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00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: I was like, so nice. It was like we were

1105
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 4: literally we walked. We went on a two mile walk,

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00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 4: but it was really like, it's it's the sentimental.

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00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 6: But that's a sign that she's not really in love

1108
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 6: if she's not like that part moved by that, because

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00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 6: you should be if you're really in love.

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00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyways, anyways, okay, so this is called the movie ends.

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00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm going to do a big grand gesture

1112
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 1: to win Dom back.

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00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: Yes she is.

1114
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, their mutual artist friend Nathan, who had the show

1115
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the movie, now has another art show,

1116
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: this time about people's butts. It's like photography, but photography.

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00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 4: I I like that he comes back. I was not

1118
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 4: expecting that different.

1119
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 6: Fun.

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00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: And so Dom goes to the art show, but yeahs

1121
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: is not there. But she does call him while she's

1122
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: on a nearby boat, which he waves at. So she

1123
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: sees him waving. She knows that he's the one because

1124
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: he waves at the boats. Yes, apologizes for lying to him.

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00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: They you know, run that. She gets off the boat,

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00:57:55,600 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: he runs through the neighborhood. They reunite and they're like, ha, oh,

1127
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: how good to see you again. Should we hang out?

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00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: Kiss?

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00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: Kiss?

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00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 4: Kiss?

1131
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: And that's the end of the movie.

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00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: And it's so romantic and perfect and I just can't

1133
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: and then I hit restart play again.

1134
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the movie. Let's take another quick break

1135
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: and we'll come back to discuss and we're back.

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 4: All right, Where shall we start, Shelley? Where would you

1137
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 4: like to start? Because I'm all my notes on this

1138
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 4: movie are like, loved it.

1139
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I kind of want to start with the easter

1140
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: eggs of it all, but I guess it really wasn't

1141
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: an easter egg. I think it was such a perfect

1142
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: just like old to London and like rom Com films

1143
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: and South London in particular. But one thing that I

1144
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: really loved was like seeing people, yeah, like Colin Firth

1145
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: and all that. But I really, did you ever watched

1146
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely Fabulous? The answer is likely yes, right.

1147
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: I actually never yet?

1148
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes, God sorry, so incredible, incredible series,

1149
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: A huge part of my like pop culture upbringing. The

1150
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: mom the one that talks more like that answers the

1151
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: door when they go to uh the ex's house to

1152
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: get the key. She was a recurring person in Absolutely Fabulous,

1153
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: and when I saw that, I just was like again,

1154
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: like Leonardo DiCaprio moment, and not just because she was

1155
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: in this movie and that was super cool, but I

1156
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: really love when black artists put things and people in

1157
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: movies that only probably likely other black people will be like,

1158
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: oh my god, or as like a an Insecure did

1159
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: that a lot with like the people like who played

1160
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: Easter Ray's mom like stuff like that. I just really

1161
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: love that because it felt like it was a really

1162
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: dope layer another a dope layer to blackness, which the

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01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 2: whole film is a love letter to me. The whole

1164
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: film is an absolute love letter to blackness and black love.

1165
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: And I hadn't seen anything like it in a long time,

1166
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: with maybe the exception of maybe the exception of the

1167
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: photograph like but again, I'm just Eastern ray hand forever,

1168
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: so that could be it. But yeah, I guess that's

1169
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: the main thing I wanted to start off with was

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01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: just that. And I think a lot of people make

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01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: films that say they're like an ode to this or

1172
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: oh to that, and you watch it and you really

1173
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: don't feel that connected to it, or you feel like

1174
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 2: it missed you, or it feels a little bit like

1175
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: maybe to them it's a very personal ode to whatever,

1176
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: and they think it's going to be this blanket everyone's

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01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: going to get it, but this one am I'm not British,

1178
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: like I am black, but I am right crazy. I'm

1179
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: not like, I'm not from South London. I don't have

1180
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: any like West Indian heritage and stuff like that. But

1181
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,479
Speaker 2: I got so much of the film even though I'm

1182
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: this black girl from Detroit at Sundance watching it right

1183
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: and it just felt so deeply well done, especially with

1184
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: it being like a black rom com. I would definitely

1185
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: this is a rom com for everyone. Yeah, but it

1186
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: is a black rom com with to me, one of

1187
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: the most important parts of it that both leads are

1188
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: dark skin. They are not racially ambiguous. They don't have

1189
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: like a curl pattern that you can't discern, like both

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01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: leads are tark skin, black British people, and it's so

1191
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: beautiful to see it on film. So that's where I

1192
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: wanted to stay.

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01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, and the director speaks to this. I read

1194
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: an interview with her rain Allen Miller in Elle magazine

1195
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: as this movie was coming out, and she speaks a

1196
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: lot about changes she made to the script, where, for example,

1197
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: the original draft had the movie set in Camden, which

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01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: and if I'm remembering correctly, oh gosh, London listeners correct

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01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, But it's a different area of London.

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01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: I think it's like a kind of predominantly white area

1201
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: that is known for its like kind of like artsy

1202
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: hipstery vibes, but like very different vibes from the neighborhoods

1203
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: we end up seeing in the movie. So basically she

1204
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: got a hold of the script, it was sent to her.

1205
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: She was like approached to direct this. It's her feature

1206
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: film directorial debut, and she was originally like, well, I'd

1207
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: love for my first feature to be something that I wrote,

1208
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: but this script was so funny and I fell in

1209
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: love with it, so she agreed to direct, but she

1210
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: made some changes to the script. Here's a quote from her.

1211
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: She says, I had quite a lot of notes. I

1212
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: wanted the female lead to the funny one, and I

1213
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: wanted the world to feel more elevated. So when I

1214
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: told stories, I wanted them to feel more dream like

1215
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: and surreal. And then she goes on to say I

1216
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: wanted the film to be a correct representation. The truth

1217
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: of it is, being a person of color is a

1218
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: hard experience, but there are also really good days, and

1219
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: this film is about one of those really good days.

1220
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: It's so important to represent our experience correctly and not

1221
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: just show grit. We also goof out, We also get

1222
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: our hearts broken, eat Greg's on the bed and cry.

1223
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: We all have a three sixty experience of the world,

1224
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: and it's important that that's shown unquote. And then also

1225
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: one of the changes she made was that again story

1226
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: was originally set in Camden, that neighborhood of London, and

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01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: then she changed it to Peckham and Brixton in South London.

1228
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: And then obviously the title of the film is named

1229
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: after the real Lifelane Market and all the like. So basically,

1230
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: like I was thinking of movies set in London and

1231
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: what you usually see with that, it's mostly movies featuring

1232
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: white characters. They'll take place in these like posh, upper

1233
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: class neighborhoods, like we've talked a lot on the podcast

1234
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: about like the movie and TV version of New York

1235
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: City where only white people mysteriously live, and it feels

1236
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: like London is similarly represented that way in media, especially

1237
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about rom com set in London. You've

1238
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: got your things like Nodding Hill and Bridget Jones and

1239
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: Love Actually and Four Weddings and a Funeral, all of

1240
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: which star Hugh Grant.

1241
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: Will say just watched the late as Bridget Jones very happy.

1242
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 4: Oh, I haven't seen it yet. You liked it?

1243
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: I loved it, But I have such a connection to

1244
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: that movie. But yes it was. I was happy. I

1245
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: was very happy.

1246
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 6: I've been saving it for like a night room, like

1247
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 6: I need this.

1248
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, good.

1249
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: But Ry Lane is one of the few movies at

1250
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: least that I've seen that's set in London that doesn't

1251
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: center white characters, that shows pockets of the city that

1252
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: are multicultural, that are racially and ethnically and socioeconomically diverse.

1253
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: A few other ones I could think of were things

1254
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,959
Speaker 1: like Bend It, like Beckham, Attack the Block, polite society,

1255
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: but so much of like how London is represented in

1256
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: media is like very like, look at these rich white people.

1257
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes we're in the eighteen hundreds.

1258
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 6: Well, because I think that that view of England, at least,

1259
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 6: it seems still like fairly pushed in the US of

1260
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 6: thinking of England as this white posh exclusively place, whereas

1261
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 6: like all of the media I encountered about England growing

1262
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 6: up would not have reflected any of the diversity that

1263
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 6: you see when you go there, or any of the

1264
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 6: class diversity that you see outside of like Oliver Twist,

1265
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 6: like all of the any class diversity you got, you

1266
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 6: have to go back one hundred and fifty years, and

1267
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 6: any racial diversity is like basically not there unless you

1268
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 6: have BBC, which we don't, and so it's just yeah, yeah.

1269
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: And when you push it, when they push it now,

1270
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: So like my thing, first thing that came to my

1271
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: mind was Bridgerton, right, like, and they have like Queen

1272
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 2: Charlotte and stuff like that, there's always this debate level

1273
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: of like did the blackness exist? And when we talk

1274
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: about going back to a different period and like that's

1275
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: such a time, right, and we think about like there's

1276
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: always a debate because even still Bridgerton is on, it's

1277
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: like a million season and every time it premieres, people

1278
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: constantly debate on if Queen Charlotte was like actually black,

1279
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 2: And it's just so the erasure of black Britain is

1280
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 2: just it's constant. And I was gonna it's so funny

1281
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 2: that you bring that up about Attack the Block. That

1282
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 2: was gonna be my other when I was thinking about

1283
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: black film and it's not romantic, but when I'm thinking

1284
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 2: about like a film from the UK, that's just inherently

1285
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: black and brown. I definitely think of Attack the Block,

1286
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 2: and not a lot of people like talk about that movie,

1287
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: but it was so black.

1288
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: It's good.

1289
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's one of the best like sci

1290
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: fi ish horsment I've seen in a long time. Sure,

1291
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: but I think about that and it shows like.

1292
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 4: Wasn't that where like John boyego was discovered.

1293
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: And that's where John boyoga And then it like him

1294
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: being in these sci fi ros is just constantly incredible

1295
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 2: because he was also great and Weaklon Tyroll just great.

1296
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 2: But then I think about something like Chewing Gum, right,

1297
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: and that's another sort of like. But then with that,

1298
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: it's like there's so many doll ups of whiteness in

1299
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 2: it because she is in an interracial relationship and all

1300
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. But Attacked the Block and and

1301
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: Ry Lane are two black British films that I've seen

1302
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: where I've just been like, I didn't have to play

1303
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: like spot the black character, you know, and it was

1304
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: just it was awesome. And I know it's had. The

1305
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: Block takes place in like council housing and stuff, but

1306
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 2: that's either here nor there. It's just like another area

1307
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: of black Britain, which is really cool that in another

1308
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: cute movie. Sorry, Boxing Day, that's another black British rom

1309
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: com that.

1310
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 6: Is so fucking good, just because every time you mentioned that,

1311
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 6: we write it down.

1312
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 2: But Boxing Day is such an incredible black cast movie.

1313
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 2: That's a rom com.

1314
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: Boxing Day is what like the day after.

1315
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: Chris Days After, because it was like for the servants,

1316
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: that's essentially what it was for, Like they couldn't celebrate

1317
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: on Christmas because they were like working for the family,

1318
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 2: so they would get the next day. I think British listeners,

1319
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 2: please don't tell me if I'm wrong, actually find out.

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01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: I want to know. Thanks.

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01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 4: Well, see, I.

1322
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 6: Also just I read and I didn't cite it in

1323
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 6: my notes, but that rain Allen Miller had previously stated

1324
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 6: that she, you know, like like you were saying Caitlin,

1325
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 6: that she was hoping to that her first movie would

1326
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 6: be on something she'd written herself, but also that she

1327
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 6: was a little bit reticent towards rom comms in general.

1328
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 6: And I feel like you can you can feel that

1329
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 6: in this movie in a good way, because she's like

1330
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 6: pushing the genre forward in a way that like I've

1331
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 6: never seen it before, and I'm so glad that someone

1332
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 6: who wasn't like a diehard rom com fan made a

1333
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 6: rom com because it it has all of the things

1334
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 6: that we love about roalm coms, but also is not

1335
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 6: being precious about the the tropes that we haven't needed

1336
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:58,480
Speaker 6: for decades, including the whitewashedness, including the like visual uncreativity,

1337
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 6: and it just all I just love it and rain

1338
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 6: Alan Miller not for nothing, Like I'm just so glad

1339
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 6: that I know about Eliah because she's so cool.

1340
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's just really really cool.

1341
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: She also I wanted to share another quote from this

1342
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: LL magazine interview with her about the environment that she

1343
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: cultivated on set. Here's just a quote from this piece.

1344
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: When it comes to creating an environment on set, Alan

1345
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: Miller cites a grounded and relatable approach is best now

1346
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 1: quoting her, it should be fun, you know, it shouldn't

1347
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: be hell, because even though it's important to work, it's

1348
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: not life or death. Prioritizing people and making sure the

1349
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: crew and cast could go home, see their families and

1350
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: live a healthy life was important to me, she explains,

1351
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: noting that she wanted people like the film's production designer, Anna,

1352
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,440
Speaker 1: who was eight months pregnant during filming to feel comfortable,

1353
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,520
Speaker 1: everyone needs to feel like their opinions matter, She continues,

1354
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: from the runners on set to the young actors leading

1355
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: the film. To make sure they're all singing from the

1356
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 1: same hymn sheet doesn't mean that they can't have fun,

1357
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: explore and challenge.

1358
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 6: So truly, imagine not being punished for egotistical reasons on

1359
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 6: a set.

1360
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 4: That's really cool.

1361
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: Right, because we've talked about so many productions that are

1362
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: directed by men almost always that it's like a dictatorship.

1363
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: The director is a tyrant. They're cruel, they're abusive to

1364
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: their cast and crew.

1365
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 4: It's not what makes them great.

1366
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, but it's okay because it's creative

1367
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 2: and just what comes of it, Like Lollie, absolutely not.

1368
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 4: I love.

1369
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 6: I think that this was the thing that was pushed

1370
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 6: back a lot on at during the press cycle around

1371
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 6: everything everywhere all at once. That was another very like

1372
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 6: inclusive and thoughtfully crafted set where it's like, we don't

1373
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 6: want this to ruin anyone's life, we want this to.

1374
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 4: Be a force of good. And what a concept.

1375
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 6: I'm so glad that she has a similar because it's

1376
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 6: also just like showing respect to the people who were

1377
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 6: bringing the vision to life, like yeah, and you can

1378
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 6: really feel I forget if we talked about this earlier,

1379
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 6: but The Fish Islands was another nod to a British

1380
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 6: comedy with Peep Show, Yes, which is like one of

1381
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 6: my favorite shows ever.

1382
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 4: It's so good. I just and that's all I'll say.

1383
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 4: But I love it so much.

1384
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 6: It's just so clear that like Rain Allen Miller put

1385
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 6: a lot of herself into this movie in spite of

1386
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 6: the fact that she didn't write it. It was written

1387
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 6: by I believe, so Nathan Bryan is a British mixed

1388
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 6: race British actor, he's a white father, jamake a mother.

1389
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 6: I believe that Rain Allen Miller also has to ancestry.

1390
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 6: And Tom Malia is respectfully some white guy.

1391
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: So I was hoping you were going to say that, Yeah.

1392
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 6: I don't know, but yeah, it feels like, at the

1393
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,959
Speaker 6: end of the day, with due respect to the writers,

1394
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 6: this is her movie, because you can just see every

1395
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 6: interview that I've seen with her seems to bear out

1396
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 6: that like this was her vision of what she wanted

1397
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,520
Speaker 6: in a movie and didn't have. That also pays homage

1398
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 6: to movies in comedy that she really loves and like,

1399
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 6: what more could you want?

1400
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: Totally the one small gripe I have with the movie,

1401
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. There are what I might argue are

1402
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 1: two different surprise kisses. One in the karaoke scene where

1403
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,879
Speaker 1: they've like just gotten off stage, and yes they are vibing,

1404
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: like the energy is there, but we don't know exactly

1405
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: in what capacity, Like is it they're feeling horny for

1406
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: each other or is it just the you know, the

1407
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: excitement from performing. Either way, yes, kind of springs a

1408
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: kiss on Dom without really checking in with him. This

1409
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: does lead to them going into a bathroom and making

1410
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: out later, so you can presume that he's receptive to

1411
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: the kissing. But just like her kind of planting a

1412
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,879
Speaker 1: kiss on him without being like, hey should we kiss

1413
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: that happens and then at the very end yeahes is like, hey,

1414
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 1: uh so should we go do something? And then he

1415
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: like kind of shuts her up by kissing her and

1416
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: she is receptive to it and they continue to make

1417
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: out and it's cute. But like, I'm like, can we

1418
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: do a little bit more in movies and in real

1419
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: life to normalize checking in with people before we just

1420
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: sort of like facially attack them with our lips just

1421
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: a thought.

1422
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm like, well, I like the movie, so I

1423
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 6: don't have that nuts.

1424
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 4: But I see what you mean.

1425
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 6: This is a very inclusive world that is still be

1426
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 6: But I think it has to do it. We had

1427
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 6: a simpler conversation around the Before trilogy where it is

1428
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 6: ultimately kind of a pretty straight movie. But I think

1429
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 6: that that has to do mostly with the kind of

1430
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 6: myopic nature of we're following a straight presumably straight couple.

1431
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 4: We don't know for sure throughout the movie. I don't know.

1432
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 6: I'm just like not inclined to knock this movie in

1433
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 6: any way, shape or form. So I'm like, it was canon,

1434
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 6: it was totally fine. And why didn't it have a

1435
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 6: theatrical release outside of the UK?

1436
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: Fair question.

1437
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: That's how I feel too like it. I do agree

1438
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 2: with like, we could do a lot more work around

1439
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: asking or not even making it such a thing where

1440
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 2: it's like, hello, fellow person who I would very much

1441
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: enjoy to put lips upon, May I kiss if thou

1442
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 2: you know?

1443
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 3: No?

1444
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: But I start saying that exactly that way, verbatim.

1445
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: Exactly that way all the time. Text me after let

1446
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:15,799
Speaker 2: me know what happened.

1447
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: Actually, could you record a voice memo for me and

1448
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: then I'll just play that people.

1449
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 2: You take it out and you go give me once

1450
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 2: listen to this. Thank you so much.

1451
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: Hold on, sorry, I have to find it.

1452
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 2: Hang on scrolling, she texts a lot. But I do agree. Yeah,

1453
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 2: there definitely should could be a lot more work around it.

1454
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: I think just in my head, to be honest, like

1455
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: as I was watching it, it didn't come to my mind,

1456
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: and not until just now where you just said it,

1457
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 2: to be honest, like, I think I was so wrapped

1458
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: up within the rom com of it all. And then

1459
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 2: I think also why it didn't hit for me is

1460
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 2: because of the after was like yes they did go

1461
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 2: into the bathroom to make out, and then like yes

1462
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 2: they did, like the camera panned in a fucking circle

1463
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 2: and then it went up into the sky and I'm like, ah,

1464
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 2: that was perfect. Of course he could kiss it, so

1465
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 2: it wasn't something that was It wasn't something that was

1466
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 2: top of mi mba. I definitely do understand how we

1467
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 2: could put more conversation around doing so. Yeah.

1468
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean even in that first one at the karaoke

1469
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: bar when she kisses him, he is a little taken

1470
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: aback and he's like oh oh, and she's like oh sorry,

1471
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: and then he's like aha, wait and then he like

1472
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: kind of pulls her into the bathroom and then they

1473
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: make out. So like her kissing him sends the message

1474
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: to him that like she's down to kiss, and then

1475
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: he's like, okay, now let's go make out. So like

1476
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: the aftermath, like the results worked out just fine. But

1477
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: that's the thing with the surprise kiss. You don't know

1478
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 1: what the aftermath is going to be. You don't know

1479
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: how receptive the person is going to be to the

1480
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: kiss unless you check in with them first. So I'm

1481
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: always just a proponent of being like heyd I okay

1482
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: if I kiss you, or to quote you, but I

1483
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: forget what you said and I pull up.

1484
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 2: Hello person that I would like to le Hello, fellow person, sorry, hello,

1485
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: fellow person that I would like to put my lips upon.

1486
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 2: May if I kiss this thou thou wow?

1487
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 4: So ever after of you.

1488
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 2: I mean, don't make me go watch that movie tonight.

1489
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,919
Speaker 6: Why it's been on my mind recently, but it has.

1490
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 6: But nevertheless, no, I I I totally agree with you.

1491
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 6: I think I'm it's so funny because Shelley. Right before this,

1492
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 6: we recorded an episode that Caitlin was like going to

1493
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 6: the mat for.

1494
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,480
Speaker 4: And so it's like The.

1495
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: Little Rascals is a genius film with great comedy.

1496
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 4: It's okay.

1497
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 2: I I can't wait to hear that episode because I

1498
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: have thought, I have thoughts. I have thoughts.

1499
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 6: I have thought, Yeah it is it's fine, it's fine,

1500
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 6: it's fine, and we're safe. Did anyone else have anything

1501
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 6: else to say about this? I mean a big thing

1502
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 6: for me is I'm very happy that David Johnson's career

1503
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 6: has continued to grow. But if Vivian Opara doesn't become

1504
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 6: a movie star, it's curtains like she just like and

1505
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 6: he and again it's like David Johnson's put in the

1506
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 6: position like his character is very withheld. This is the

1507
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 6: only I've seen him in industry in this. I haven't

1508
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 6: seen Alien Romulus, Like they're both so talented. But I

1509
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 6: was just blown away by Vivian Opara.

1510
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 4: Like her performance and her part is something that could

1511
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 4: have been played poorly, where it could have been really

1512
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 4: obvious that like I'm not the confident girl that I

1513
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,799
Speaker 4: say I am, but she just pleays it so well.

1514
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 4: I just like I really love her. I can't wait

1515
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 4: to see her and more.

1516
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: He was in and I had to look it up

1517
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: because I don't know how I came across this show.

1518
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 2: But it's called Dead Hot and okay, there's another guy

1519
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 2: in it name blal has No. I apologize if I

1520
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: pronounced his name wrong, but he's in a show called Extraordinary.

1521
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 2: Did you watch that on.

1522
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: Hulu where I haven't seen it yet.

1523
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 2: It's so good and I think it's getting another season,

1524
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 2: but at least it has two and in that show,

1525
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: Vivie on a part. Isn't that but they co star

1526
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 2: in the Dead Hot show and it's also another British

1527
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: like series and it's kind of a one offer, but

1528
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: it was last year, but it was really really good.

1529
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: And just for Black, he's incredible and extraordinary because that show.

1530
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: You can watch that show both seasons in like a day.

1531
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: I have many a time. But but yeah, Vivian Apar

1532
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: is like a fucking star, like she's a star. And

1533
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if she has any like more projects

1534
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: coming out, which I'm sure because I feel like that

1535
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 2: always happens. We say that and then boom, like oh

1536
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: if she hasn't anything, and then boom, like all of

1537
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: a sudden, you see something where.

1538
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 4: She's we listened to this in two years in really yeah,

1539
01:20:59,680 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 4: not to.

1540
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 2: Worry, but I actually have never I think I've seen

1541
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 2: like one episode of Industry, but I knew that that

1542
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: was him because my my fiance also I am fiance.

1543
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 2: It's my fiance watches that show, so I didn't really

1544
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 2: know his word. But I think he's incredible in this.

1545
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: But yes, she's she's a star. Yeah, she's definitely a

1546
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: star for sure.

1547
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just so refreshing to not just see

1548
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 6: two dark skinned black actors starring in a romcom, but

1549
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,480
Speaker 6: just like two actors with such amazing chemistry.

1550
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 2: Chemistry was.

1551
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 6: A relief to not see casting by algorithm, which I

1552
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 6: think we've seen so many times in the last handful

1553
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 6: of years. It's just nice to feel like, and hopefully

1554
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 6: you know, in many movies to come, when you see

1555
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 6: a rain Allen Miller movie, she actually cares. If you

1556
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 6: believe that these actors are attracted to each other, you know,

1557
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 6: it's just great.

1558
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 2: And even the other couples within the movie too, right,

1559
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 2: Like I feel like they all had chemistry. Like I

1560
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: also believe that Dom's character like they could be friends.

1561
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 2: That of course that's his best friend, right, Like, oh yeah,

1562
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 2: it just is like because they went they had been

1563
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 2: going to school since like elementary sorry primary comary school. Apologies, Yeah,

1564
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 2: but they But I believed that friendship too, And I

1565
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: also believe the coupling of that artist and his girlfriend.

1566
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 2: And I definitely believe that a coupling of her ex

1567
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 2: and his new girlfriend. The only one I didn't believe

1568
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 2: was the best friend in Dom's X because what, that's crazy.

1569
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 4: She must be in a really dark place, A dark place.

1570
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is like a scary Yeah I was, she

1571
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 6: was an asshole, but I was also like, and I

1572
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 6: know I was projecting, but like I'm a little worried

1573
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 6: about her, because if you're leaving your sweetheart, you know,

1574
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 6: like long, even if you've fallen out of love over time,

1575
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 6: this is not the guy you jumped to.

1576
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 2: He's an idiot. But he also played dumb so well

1577
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 2: because I watched a lot of the interviews, Like after

1578
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 2: I saw this movie, I couldn't get enough. You ever

1579
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: watch a movie, You're like, I need more content, I

1580
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 2: need behind the scenes. So anything that came out on YouTube,

1581
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm watching interviews I'm watching like where they make them

1582
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 2: play the little silly games on like Instagram. I'm like, yeah,

1583
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 2: that's that's so funny. But he's so funny. He's so funny.

1584
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: They she created this world that I believed and it

1585
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,839
Speaker 2: was this close. I think for most of the runtime

1586
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: to be my favorite little mini genre, which is movies

1587
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: that take place on one day. So I think for

1588
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,959
Speaker 2: most of the runtime it is like the same.

1589
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 4: Day until the last like fifteen minutes.

1590
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, it counts. It was before coded to me like

1591
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 6: people falling in love over the course of.

1592
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,799
Speaker 7: A day, Like you're reading three movies like on a walk,

1593
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 7: which is what when you said that Jamie about like

1594
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 7: being on a walk, right, and you're just falling in

1595
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 7: love on this walk.

1596
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: I also I connected with that too because I just

1597
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 2: like to remember my second day with my fiance. It

1598
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 2: was very much we went on a fucking walk, like

1599
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: and we ended up at like a restaurant and then

1600
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 2: like all this stuff. But to see that be on

1601
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 2: film but for black people, the Harry met Sally of

1602
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 2: it all, like the Nodding Hill, all of it just

1603
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 2: like this beautiful, awesome setting. Because I know when we

1604
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 2: think of Harry met Sally. We think of the park

1605
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 2: and the leaves changing and all of this, But now

1606
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 2: there's this film out there where instead of like inserting

1607
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 2: myself into it and being like, oh, this could happen

1608
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: for me, because I used to put myself in Harry

1609
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: met Sally like all the time, right, I'm like, this

1610
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: could be me or whatever. But you can only do

1611
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,799
Speaker 2: that for so long when you don't see it on film.

1612
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: That's why I always go back to Love Jones another

1613
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 2: walking and Falling in Love like film. But then I

1614
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 2: saw it in ry Lane and you're just like, they're

1615
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 2: just hanging out and they don't know they're falling in love,

1616
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 2: but the viewer does, and it's just really dope to

1617
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 2: see it play out. And I think it was just

1618
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 2: like it was played out perfectly. And then the trope

1619
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: of like she's extroverted, he's a little introverted. It can

1620
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 2: be so lame, but it worked again here too, because

1621
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 2: I believed in their chemistry so.

1622
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 6: And I love that the truth of how they portrayed

1623
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 6: themselves ended up falling somewhere in between where she wasn't

1624
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 6: as extroverted as she wanted to project herself to this

1625
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 6: guy that she didn't think she was ever gonna see again,

1626
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 6: and just all of these things that like, I don't know,

1627
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 6: I just yeah, it's so exciting to see these like.

1628
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 4: Micro dynamics that you have either witnessed.

1629
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 6: Or experience in a rom com where basically there is

1630
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 6: no there's nothing, there's only things that you are used

1631
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 6: to like aspiring to experience. So yeah, it passes the

1632
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 6: back to test, does it not?

1633
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: I didn't know because I yeah, please, I was concerned.

1634
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 2: I didn't know if it did.

1635
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,520
Speaker 1: Actually, I think maybe it does between yees.

1636
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 4: Such as you would want it to.

1637
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: But it yeah, okay, between yeaes and Jules's moms, yes,

1638
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: although they do kind of talk about Dom most of

1639
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: their conversation. And then Yes also talks to her best

1640
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: friend Cass. She talks to like the people on the

1641
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: set of the movie she's working on. Those are very

1642
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,839
Speaker 1: like tertiary characters. I don't think we learned their names,

1643
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: so you can debate on whether or not those exchanges count.

1644
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: The thing about a movie like this where it's so

1645
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: hyper focused on a hetero relationship, so it's like a

1646
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:05,440
Speaker 1: man and a woman talking, and like the Before trilogy,

1647
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: they will encounter people along the way, but it's really

1648
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: focused on them. I do appreciate like the encounters they

1649
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: have along the way being with I mean, you get

1650
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: queer visibility with like the two moms with Mona, who

1651
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,919
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out if that was intended

1652
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: to be a non binary character because they use they

1653
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: them pronouns to refer to Mona.

1654
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 6: Not totally sure, and if so, it's again just like

1655
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 6: effortless in a way that if this was a real world,

1656
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 6: you wouldn't have to like stop and be like, hey,

1657
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 6: everybody are real familiar with non binary identity. I will

1658
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 6: say I noticed that. And what sent me over the

1659
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 6: edge is the Bechdel Test Fest, which is based in London,

1660
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,520
Speaker 6: where and we've never been invited to kind of interesting, insane,

1661
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 6: but that they were heavily promoting how much they love

1662
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 6: ry Lane and they do not promote movies that don't

1663
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 6: pass the Backtal test, at least in passing.

1664
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 4: I don't think that it passes a lot, but I

1665
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 4: do think that a couple a couple of times it does.

1666
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we're not counted, because that was gonna be

1667
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: my thing about counting the cast on set or everybody

1668
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 2: on set, because she's talking to people in wardrobe and

1669
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 2: then the direct you know what I mean, Like, whenever

1670
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 2: she's in conversation, it's always about her and him. But yeah,

1671
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 2: I oh, wait, doesn't she It's not that it doesn't.

1672
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna say the lady that she compliments in

1673
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 2: the store, but that is too short of an interaction.

1674
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just like cool outfit stranger basically.

1675
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1676
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think it's a little up for debate

1677
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: because a lot of the conversations she does have with women.

1678
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 4: Technically it does, but it doesn't pass.

1679
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 6: A lot a lot, right, Yeah, But I'm also like,

1680
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 6: spiritually to me, and again this is maybe me just

1681
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 6: being defensive, Like, spiritually to me, it does pass well.

1682
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: The other thing too about it is and you know,

1683
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: we always talk about how the Bechdel test is just

1684
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: a jumping off point, like it's not the end all

1685
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: be all of Like is this movie feminist?

1686
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 4: It was written as a joke, and it wouldn't.

1687
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: If more movies did handily pass, this wouldn't even need

1688
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: to be a conversation that we have at all. But

1689
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: like in an ideal world where there was far more

1690
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 1: inclusivity in movies and that more movies did have women

1691
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: and you know, people of marginalized genders interacting with each other,

1692
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: it would be okay for a movie to not handily

1693
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 1: pass as long as it was you know, like doing

1694
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: other things for representation purposes, which this movie for sure does.

1695
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 6: And I think it matters of like who's behind the camera,

1696
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 6: because I think a lot of times that we gripe

1697
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 6: about the mental test, it's because we're trying to be like,

1698
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 6: we like this movie, but behind the scenes it's unequivocally

1699
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 6: all white men for the most part, and that is

1700
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 6: just the case.

1701
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 4: Here.

1702
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 6: We have black cinematographer Olin Collardi. We have one woman producer,

1703
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 6: Ivonne is Amazato. We have a woman who edited it,

1704
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:17,799
Speaker 6: which is very rare, Victoria Boydell, who has edited.

1705
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 3: Oh.

1706
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 4: People like the movie twelve Monkeys, right, I haven't seen it.

1707
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: Yes, it's one of my favorites, right, yeah, Brad Pitt

1708
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: and Bruce Okay.

1709
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 2: The only reason I know about sorry about twelve Monkeys

1710
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: is because of can't Harley Waite when she there, somebody

1711
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 2: references it in can't Harley Waite.

1712
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 6: I have not seen it, but she is a longtime

1713
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 6: British editor, So I just feel like this movie walks

1714
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 6: the walk in front of and behind the camera, and

1715
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 6: I'm not inclined to be like, well they're because sure, yes,

1716
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 6: there could have been more interactions between women. I think

1717
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 6: that we should never pooh pooh that as something that

1718
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 6: should happen more.

1719
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 4: But it just really does feel. And there's also so

1720
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 4: original music from.

1721
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 6: I haven't heard of him before, but Quays a black

1722
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 6: British musician who has worked with all of these famous musicians.

1723
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 4: And I believe this was his first score.

1724
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 6: Like, you can just feel that this movie is coming

1725
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 6: from a genuine and thoughtful place, and behind the camera

1726
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 6: is just as diverse, and so for sure it passes

1727
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 6: the factual test.

1728
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1729
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,799
Speaker 2: I definitely b with that too, about the behind the camera,

1730
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 2: and then like just how she is in her interviews

1731
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 2: as well, the director, like Ryan is very just Yeah,

1732
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 2: so I vibe with that too.

1733
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: As far as our nipple scale, where we rate the

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Speaker 1: movie on a scale of zero to five nipples based

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01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 1: on examining it through an intersectional feminist lens, I think

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01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: this movie does so much and even though it is

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01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: centering a hetero relationship, that doesn't mean it's bad that

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01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: those do happen in the world sometimes and the idea

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01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: is how are they portrayed and framed? And this movie,

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01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: I think does a spectacular job where the characters are

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01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: very very relatable, and their problems are relatable, and their

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01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 1: personalities are magnetic, and the little love story journey they

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01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 1: go on feels very grounded. And I think I'll give

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01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: it like four point seven five nipples. I'm gonna dock

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01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: it for the surprise uses that you could argue are present,

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01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: but other than that, I really can't find anything else

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01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: to nitpick about this movie. So yeah, it's gonna be

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01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: very high marks for me. And I'll give my nipples

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Speaker 1: to the two leads as well as the director, rain

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Speaker 1: Allen Miller, and I'll set aside my point seven five

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01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 1: nipples for the two moms, and then I'll give the

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01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 1: final full nipple. I don't know if I'm doing this

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01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 1: math right at all, but I.

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01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 2: Think you just want to give it five nipples and

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01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 2: that way you have more. No.

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01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 1: I feel very strongly about the kissing.

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01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, give it away though, because I have to pee.

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01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, I'll give it to the to

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01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: Rye Lane market.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I'm giving you five nipples. I totally hear your criticism,

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01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 6: and I am and this is problematic of me, but

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01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 6: I am giving it a pass on vibes. I loved

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01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 6: this movie. I was like, I don't know, it is

1764
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 6: so nice going into it, because we've watched hundreds and

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01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 6: hundreds of movies for this show, and there I can

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01:33:56,920 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 6: count on probably two hands when the times that I've

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01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 6: gone in to watch a movie for this show, and

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01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 6: it has been clear to me very quickly that like,

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01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 6: unless something wild happens, this is going to become a

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01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 6: movie that is like with me for the rest of

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01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 6: my life. And this was like that rare experience. I

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01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 6: was so happy. I'm giving it five nipples selfishly, but

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01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 6: also because I think it deserves it. I wish that

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01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,480
Speaker 6: there were more movies like this, and I am actively

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01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 6: upset and have my suspicions as to like, why do

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01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 6: we not have wider releases of black rom coms internationally?

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01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,719
Speaker 6: I think that that is a very pointed thing, because

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01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 6: there is no reason this should not have gotten a

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01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 6: wide release internationally.

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01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 4: It's so is so.

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01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 6: Many like Country Miles better than rom coms we've gotten

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01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 6: released internationally in the last several years. It's just like

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01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,440
Speaker 6: if you haven't seen it, go see it. Five nipples,

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01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 6: distributing them equally between ray Now Miller and Vivian Opara,

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01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 6: my two parasocial friends.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful Shelly, how about you.

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01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 2: I'm surprisingly giving it five nipples.

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01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: WHOA.

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01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 2: I know, I'm so sorry to shock everybody. I apologize.

1790
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 2: I know I've been talking so much shit like for

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01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 2: the past three hours. Five nipples of course, because I think, well,

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01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,600
Speaker 2: four nipples to just like the movie in itself and

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01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 2: the cast and Vivian and all of them. But the

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01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 2: main nipple, the one nipple, also goes to just how

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01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: connected I am to this film. I feel like this

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01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 2: film was a part of a very personal experience for me.

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01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 2: It was my first sun Dance. I had been invited

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01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 2: on my own merits, like I write about film and

1799
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 2: pop culture, and I got asked to come to this

1800
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 2: huge fucking thing that like, honestly, a lot of like

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01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 2: marginalized culture writers, black culture writers specifically don't get invited to.

1802
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 2: And I got invited to this place and I saw

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01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:06,719
Speaker 2: this movie that made me feel like my whole sort

1804
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 2: of experience of writing and film kind of just came

1805
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 2: all together. And then I learned who was behind the camera,

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01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 2: and then I got a chance to show it to

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01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 2: another like a group of just black people who were

1808
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 2: who enjoyed it that night. Is just so close to me.

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01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 2: It's a rom com story and I love love, love, love,

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01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 2: love love. So it's like another big part of it

1811
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 2: is that I didn't have to pretend to see myself

1812
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 2: on the screen, and that mattered a lot to me

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01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 2: because it's twenty twenty five and I oftentimes still have

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01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 2: to do that. So Yeah, five nipples across the board.

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01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, Amazon, oh Shelly, thank you from the bottom of

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01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 6: our hearts for bringing us this wonderful movie to us

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01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 6: and the listeners if they haven't seen it, thank you

1818
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 6: so much.

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01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 2: Of course, thank you for having me. I'm loving this

1820
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 2: is that being here? This is my favorite. Oh wait,

1821
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: can I give Can I say something, Jamie? I heard you, Mama,

1822
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 2: I heard you on here to help pod? Okay, Oh

1823
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 2: my god, let me tell you something. I listened to

1824
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 2: very few podcasts nowadays, just because like I feel like

1825
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 2: at one point I was listening to so many. You've

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01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 2: narrowed it down to like five, of course, one of

1827
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 2: which the beca c is a part of. But I

1828
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 2: was listening and then I said, I know that voice

1829
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 2: because I was I was watching. I was like, and

1830
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 2: that is like one of my favorite podcasts in the

1831
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 2: fucking world. So and you killed it, and I just

1832
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 2: was so excited for you. I know both of you

1833
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,679
Speaker 2: are doing such big, cool things, but it's so cool

1834
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 2: when people I know I get to hear them on

1835
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 2: something and I just am so happy for you. And

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01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,719
Speaker 2: you just killed it. It was funny, it was great.

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01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 4: I was really nervous. I'm glad you.

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01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 6: I'm glad you liked it because I was, like.

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01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 2: It was it was awesome. You held you definitely held

1840
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 2: your own for sure. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you

1841
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 2: als for having me.

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01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:00,759
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's all our treat.

1843
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 4: It's our treat.

1844
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: Truly come back anytime. To talk about Boxing day.

1845
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, for a boxing day, yes please.

1846
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 2: That movie is so cute and there's gonna be a

1847
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 2: second one. I hear, I don't know, but it's so cute.

1848
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 2: It's so so so cute. It's really cute.

1849
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 4: An extremely boxing day.

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01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,919
Speaker 1: I was going to say, an extremely boxing day.

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01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 2: Very extremely boxing day.

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01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 6: I do kind of like this vibe that you are

1853
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 6: foreshadowing your next episode in every previous appearance.

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01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 4: It makes sense.

1855
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 2: If I can find like a black queer summer movie

1856
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 2: that I love that, I'm just gonna send the email

1857
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 2: and be like, hello, everyone looks like I'm coming back

1858
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 2: in jeer.

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01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,520
Speaker 4: Okay, please do please do amazing.

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01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 1: Where can people find your writing, your work? Follow you

1861
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: on social media, et cetera.

1862
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 2: Tell us everything, So Hi Shelley dot com h I

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01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 2: s h E l L. I will get you to

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01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 2: everywhere I am, which is main just Instagram, where I'm

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01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 2: Ao Shelley like a yo s h o I. And

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01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 2: then I'm on Letterbox at high Shelley Hi saht o I.

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01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 2: Those are the only two that I use. But yeah,

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01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,759
Speaker 2: because I'm not on X, I guess I'm on Threads

1869
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 2: because I also already have Instagram. But it's the same, right,

1870
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, you can find all my stuff there, including

1871
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 2: links to my substack, which I just getting back into

1872
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 2: and but yeah, I love it, So subscribe to my

1873
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 2: substack because I'm fun and I'm awesome and I'm very pretty.

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01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 1: It's so true.

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01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 6: I just followed you on letterbox and what is number

1876
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 6: one on your favorite films? But Riley exactly walking the

1877
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 6: walk as far walking the walk.

1878
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I am being I'm for real about this shit.

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01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 4: Well, this rocks.

1880
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 1: Please come back anytime and please yay. You can follow

1881
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 1: us on social media. We have a letterbox too, which

1882
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: we never plug. We also never plug our link tree,

1883
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: which is relevant because we if we have upcoming shows.

1884
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:06,679
Speaker 1: Our patreon is linked there, our letterbox is linked there,

1885
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 1: et cetera. So yeah, link tree, slash Bechtel Cast, Instagram,

1886
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: and our patreon, our Matreon where you get two bonus

1887
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 1: episodes every single month, plus access to the back catalog

1888
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 1: of episodes. Currently, we're in the middle of Rodent Timber aka.

1889
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:30,640
Speaker 1: We're covering Ratitui and the Great Mouse Detective.

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Speaker 4: Try not to panic.

1891
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 2: I was wondering what the other one. I knew.

1892
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 4: There was a heated battle between There's so many roady

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01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 4: movies I have so bad.

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01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 6: You can get our merch at republic dot com slash

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01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 6: b Bechdel Cast and with that buy something or don't

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01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 6: I have to pee?

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01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, bye, love you bye. The Bechdel Cast is a

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01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:02,839
Speaker 1: production of Iheartmeat hosted by Caitlin Derante and Jamie loftis

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01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 1: produced by Sophie Lichterman, edited by Moe La boord Our

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01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 1: theme song was composed by Mike Kaplan with vocals by

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01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 1: Katherine Volskrosenski. Our logo in merch is designed by Jamie

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