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Speaker 1: Try from Tracy Young kick gooffs.

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Speaker 2: Why did you guys turn.

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Speaker 3: To him and what did you see? Yeah, he's he's

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Speaker 3: a guy that's he obviously did it in college and

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Speaker 3: he did a little bit last year. It was something

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Speaker 3: he sayed connected to throughout the preseason, in the offseason

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Speaker 3: in general. So he's always back there working on his

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Speaker 3: catch mechanics, working on his ball skills of catching that

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Speaker 3: ball forward and uh, you know, it's one opportunity to

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Speaker 3: give a guy an extra touch, and he obviously has

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Speaker 3: a skill set that's very valuable to this team with

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Speaker 3: his run skill as a running back, he has good

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Speaker 3: top end speed, he has a good vision. So whenever

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Speaker 3: you give a guy a touch like that and he's

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Speaker 3: able to have a day of the way he did,

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Speaker 3: you know, it makes us very confident in him to

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Speaker 3: have the ability to be used back there as a returner. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a guy Every week is a new week,

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Speaker 3: and it depends on obviously volume for different players and

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Speaker 3: all that. But if he gives us the best chance

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Speaker 3: to win on kickoff return, then he may be back there.

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Speaker 1: Gives but where does he fit in on this route start?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's a guy that like you said that

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Speaker 3: I've worked with in the past. He's a great kid,

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Speaker 3: great personality, smart football player, has real speed, and he's

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Speaker 3: a guy that I'm excited to work with. You know,

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Speaker 3: with him coming new to the Giants, we got to

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Speaker 3: just make certain that he understands our system, which I

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Speaker 3: think he'll acclimate fairly quickly. And he's a guy that's

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Speaker 3: played a lot of ball in this league. So whenever

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Speaker 3: we get a chance to work with him, you know,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna move forward with him as as

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Speaker 3: a big time player for us. So we're just gonna

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Speaker 3: keep working with him.

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Speaker 2: What's happened to the league? Mike Debt?

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Speaker 4: Now we get we're at a point where sixty to

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Speaker 4: sixty five yards are kind of a piece of kick

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Speaker 4: sixty four yards unfortunately for you. Yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 4: how is that evolved?

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Speaker 2: How do we get here? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think number one, the training of these kickers has

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Speaker 3: elevated in the past ten years, and the strength of

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Speaker 3: these specialists have also rosen up as well. I think

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Speaker 3: these guys have understood what the weight room could do

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Speaker 3: for them, what flexibility could do for them, And obviously,

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Speaker 3: in terms of Brandon Aubrey. He's a generational talent. You know,

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Speaker 3: a sixty four yarder is not a chip shot. But

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Speaker 3: for that guy, he did a good job and he

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Speaker 3: was able to execute. I mean a lot of respect

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Speaker 3: for him because he's able to hit those kicks with

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Speaker 2: For you, so you have a little bit of older kicker.

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Speaker 4: Have you seen his range increase too as he's gotten

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Speaker 4: a bit stronger and work on those things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, the one thing I would say

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Speaker 3: time of year, when all those things. But I would say,

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Speaker 3: Graham Gano is hitting the ball really well for us

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Speaker 3: right now and really fired up where he's at. And

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Speaker 3: I have seen, you know obviously, like I've said in

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Speaker 3: the past, he looks like the Graham Gano that we

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Speaker 5: Right now, almost a seventy yarder in the preseason. Like

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Speaker 5: teams could just get him midfield and basically being field

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's twofold because if you miss the kick, you're

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Speaker 3: giving the opponent the ball around the logo. Obviously, if

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Speaker 3: you make the kick, points are invaluable on the in

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Speaker 3: the in this league. But that being said, you just

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Speaker 3: But points are all as a premium and but ultimately

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Speaker 3: It is pretty damn cool to see the range of

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Speaker 1: Much has the touchback real change At the end of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the thirty five yard line is obviously the

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Speaker 3: we had said, they put them in field goal range

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Speaker 3: end of the day, I think you got to be

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Speaker 3: on point on both kickoff and kickoff return and always

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Speaker 4: If it's a crucial to not have a return, since

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Speaker 3: Well, then the you know, the drive start would be

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Speaker 3: to secede? You know, that's a conversation and discussion that

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Speaker 3: all of us coaches that need to have. You know,

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Speaker 3: And whenever you can cover kicks and be able to

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Speaker 3: this is becoming a weapon. So you know, everything is

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Speaker 2: There was a big tick off if there's a sort

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Speaker 3: You know, whereas before, you know, only the k balls

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Speaker 3: from poll Collins, say he's lined up in the middle

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Speaker 3: You know, it deals with schematics, It deals with what

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Speaker 3: So every week no different than what we just talked about.

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Speaker 3: And obviously the more versatility a player has, the more

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Speaker 3: cool to see Bo Collins show up and be able

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Speaker 1: That duel's role on the pump blog is it basically

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Speaker 3: He has impact to do a lot of different things,

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Speaker 3: challenge against coach Tope. He is, you know, a very

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Speaker 3: guys to play hard and you know, just keeping you

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