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Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Thursday, Dan and The Dana's Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick Show. Mike Breen was on the call with the

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Speaker 2: Cavaliers and the Thunder last night. He'll join us coming

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Speaker 2: up in a couple of minutes. Greg McElroy, former Alabama quarterback,

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Speaker 2: won a national title. He'll be on the call for

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Speaker 2: the Mothership with Notre Dame versus Penn State. Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: favored by one and a half. It's been that round one,

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State six, five and a half, six and a

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Speaker 2: half against Texas. That'll be tomorrow. Chris Faller will be

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Speaker 2: on the call for that game. He'll join us coming

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Speaker 2: up on the program tomorrow. Stat of the Day brought

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Speaker 2: the program. The Tour's new season continues in Hawaii a

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Speaker 2: Decie Matsuyama leading a stacked field the Wilei Country Club,

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Speaker 2: The Sony Open Saturday and Sunday on NBC and Peacock

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Speaker 2: Wilei Country Club. That always brings back memory. I was

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Speaker 2: out there for a Sandler movie, the movie Just Go

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Speaker 2: with It, and I was there with Brooklyn Decker, Nicole Kitman,

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Speaker 2: Jennifer Aniston, and I was a night club owner. And

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Speaker 2: the night before I'm going to shoot my scene, Nick Schwartzen,

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Speaker 2: Schwarty stand up comedian, says let's go out. Let's go drinking.

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Speaker 2: And I said no. I said, look, you're double A

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Speaker 2: and I'm a Hall of Famer. We're not going to

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Speaker 2: do this. And he said no, let's go. I said, okay. Now,

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Speaker 2: Adam Sandler has one rule, and that one rule is

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Speaker 2: to make sure you don't end up in the newspaper,

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Speaker 2: don't get arrested. So we go out and we went

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Speaker 2: to Tommy Bahamas. They had a store and a bar,

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Speaker 2: and we get there and we're doing mind Erasers. Well

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Speaker 2: I'm not a mind eraser guy, but we started doing

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Speaker 2: some mind Erasers and a couple other beverages. And I

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Speaker 2: say good night to Nick Schwartzen because I have to

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Speaker 2: shoot the next day. Next day, can't find Nick Schwartzen,

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Speaker 2: He's supposed to be in a movie. Can't find him

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Speaker 2: in the morning, can't find him in the afternoon. Late

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Speaker 2: in the afternoon, I'm shooting my scene. He comes in.

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Speaker 2: He has sand all over his hair and he had

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Speaker 2: the Whyline golf course. He lost his phone, but he

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Speaker 2: as he said, I didn't make it in the newspaper.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get arrested. But he was like fifty feet

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Speaker 2: from his hotel. He just took a right instead of

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Speaker 2: a left and ended up in a sand trap. Yes, Pauling, imagine.

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Speaker 4: You're the greenskeeper. You're you show up, let's say Schwartz

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Speaker 4: and left. He got back, but you go to the green,

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Speaker 4: and there's an outline of a body in the bunker.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to guess that's happened before, by the way,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Nick Schwartzen Wilei Country Club. Great memories there.

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Speaker 2: Mike Breen ESPN, ABC, NBA play by play commentator on

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Speaker 2: the call last night Cleveland against Oklahoma City. Did it

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Speaker 2: feel like a finals preview to you?

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Speaker 5: It did a long way to go, and there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of teams that will have to say about that.

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Speaker 5: But the buzz in the place, it just was different.

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Speaker 5: I had to keep reminding myself it's January eighth, so

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Speaker 5: easy does it? But it had a spectacular feel. You

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Speaker 5: could tell the players were so fired up and so

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Speaker 5: into it. You know, they're all trying to say it's

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Speaker 5: a regular game, but it wasn't. They knew it, The

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Speaker 5: a game on January eighth.

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Speaker 2: When you do a show, when you if it's on

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Speaker 2: the Mothership or radio show, whatever you like, to play

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Speaker 2: the hits and the Cavaliers aren't playing the hits. But

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Speaker 2: they've gotten to that point, Mike, They're thirty two and four.

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Speaker 2: You can't ignore the topic. This is one of the

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Speaker 2: great starts in the history of the NBA. Do you

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Speaker 2: get that? And so people are really struggling to grab

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Speaker 2: them to be maybe there in the finals. Cleveland, they've

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Speaker 2: been a really good team, but they just haven't been,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the headlines because Lebron's gone.

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Speaker 5: Couldn't agree more. It's like I even said in our

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Speaker 5: but it just sounds crazy to say that the Cleveland

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Speaker 5: Cabs are thirty two and four, and they're that good.

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Speaker 5: They're really that good. And I think the fact that

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Speaker 5: the betting line now still has the Boston Celtics the

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Speaker 5: clear favorite to come out of the East, despite the

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Speaker 5: fact that the Caves are doing this, and it's you know,

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Speaker 5: it's a credit to the whole organization from Kobe Altman

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Speaker 5: and not make you know, sudden changes because they lost

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Speaker 5: in the first round two years ago and got beaten

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Speaker 5: pretty bad in the second round last year, although it

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Speaker 5: was injuries. They just they play such fun basketball to

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Speaker 2: I have a bet here with Marvin and uh I

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Speaker 2: think there'll be two Cavaliers name to the All Star team.

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Speaker 2: He says four.

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Speaker 5: Won't be four. I think three is a really good bet.

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Speaker 5: I think Mitchell Mobley and and Darius Garland. Although Jared

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Speaker 5: well as any of them, so it's it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 5: It'll be interesting to see. I think four is a

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Speaker 5: New York has definitely two. Although there was a couple

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Speaker 5: of normal guys that get on that aren't going to

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Speaker 5: make it, so I wouldn't count it out. They certainly

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Speaker 5: deserve it. It's you know, like you said, it's it's

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Speaker 5: one of the greatest of any era, of any team,

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Speaker 5: of any franchise. It's one of the greatest starts that

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Speaker 2: If you were going to describe Shay Gilgis Alexander to

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Speaker 2: somebody who hadn't seen him play, how would you do it?

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Speaker 5: A magical control of his body and no matter where

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Speaker 5: he goes, no matter what he does, an incredible poise

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Speaker 5: where nobody can speed him up and nobody can really

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Speaker 5: stop him kill her instinct. And even though you know

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Speaker 5: he's averaged so many points, he is such a team

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Speaker 5: first guy. Everything about him he's he's it's hard to

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Speaker 5: do it in just a quick sentence. He's got this

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Speaker 5: supreme confidence but at the same time humility. He's just

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Speaker 5: he's a perfect guy to kind of take over the

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Speaker 5: the some of our greats aging. Everything about him is

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Speaker 5: is just wonderful from a from a league standpoint, in

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Speaker 5: terms of being the guy that you know, could lead

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Speaker 2: I kind of see some Kawhi Leonard comps with him,

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Speaker 2: because Kawhi had an ability when he was healthy to

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe similar size. I don't know if Shae

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Speaker 5: No, I like that because neither one of them you

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Speaker 5: would say, are fast. They're both athletic, but that's not

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Speaker 5: what they rely everything on. They're both super smart, you know.

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Speaker 5: I think that's a big part of it. Shay smiles

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Speaker 5: a little bit more than Kawhi, but it's, you know

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Speaker 5: what the two The other thing you could say about

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Speaker 5: the two of them, and this is something Munch He

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Speaker 5: could play in any era. He could have played in

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Speaker 5: the sixty his game because he kind of incorporates every

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Speaker 5: the nineties. He can take the physical style of the nineties.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's improved on his three point shooting of

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Speaker 5: today's current game. He's one of those guys that he's

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Speaker 5: just He's just a great basketball player that could play

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Mike Breeney, you know, ESPN, ABC, NBA

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Speaker 2: play by play commentator on the call last night, calves

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Speaker 2: in the thunder. How often do you get somebody coming

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Speaker 2: up to you and say, hey, Mike, can you give

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Speaker 2: me a bang?

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Speaker 5: You really want to know? When I go into an arenas,

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Speaker 5: it's it's all the time, and i take it as

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Speaker 5: a as a compliment, and I'm flattered, like you wouldn't

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Speaker 5: believe that that people say that. But when they start

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Speaker 5: the kids start shoving the phone in your face and

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Speaker 5: they're yelling, say bangs. It's sometimes it gets a little much.

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Speaker 5: But I'm again, I'm so flattered by it that this

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Speaker 5: one word has been so good to me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but wait a minute, how do you do that

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Speaker 2: when somebody says, hey, Mike, will you say bang? Do

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Speaker 2: you just go bang?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 5: What? Sometimes? I just go bang? Well, sometimes I'll say that.

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Speaker 5: I if it's after a game, I'll say I lost,

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Speaker 5: I lost my boys.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: What constitutes or warrants a double bang?

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Speaker 5: There's no formula. Yeah, it's it's strictly off the flow

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Speaker 5: this stumble of it? It really just comes out. I wish

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Speaker 5: I had a better answer. I'm sorry, you know, I'm

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Speaker 5: next time we're on, I'm going to come up with

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Speaker 2: I got to help you with your profile here. I mean,

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Speaker 2: let's let's embrace it. Do we do we have a copyright?

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Speaker 2: Do we got T shirt?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: What are we doing?

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Speaker 5: First off, you've always been helpful, so I appreciate any

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Speaker 5: additional help. I don't don't have copyright. I have I

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Speaker 5: have a T shirt, but that's just one. I never

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Speaker 5: thought of selling it. And you know, here's the interesting thing,

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Speaker 5: And I don't know if you and I have discussed this.

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Speaker 5: I'm not the first one to use it. And I

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Speaker 5: didn't know this until later. Johnny Most used to say

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Speaker 6: In the day.

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Speaker 2: You weren't aware of that.

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Speaker 5: You just were not aware of it. And his son,

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Speaker 5: his son, who was in the business, Jamie, his son,

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Speaker 5: alerted me to it. And I think right after I

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Speaker 5: found that out, I did bang in a Celtic game

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Speaker 5: and I said, that's dedicated to the great Johnny Most.

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Speaker 5: But you know, back in the day. We didn't if

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Speaker 5: really to the radio voices of other teams. Now you

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Speaker 5: matter where you are. But I didn't know it at

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Speaker 2: I watched when Ba Yama, when Ben Yama the other

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Speaker 2: night against Joker, and I said the following day, he's

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Speaker 2: going to win an MVP before he's twenty five, if

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Speaker 2: you don't now. I didn't have a great scoring night,

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Speaker 2: but he's got like a he can shoot the three.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a force. At the other end. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out what is going to be his weakness,

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Speaker 2: like Yanna's is not a great shooter, you know, these

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Speaker 2: guys have weaknesses. But Wemby looks pretty polished, Mike.

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Speaker 5: He does everything really well. And I agree with you,

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Speaker 2: It just sounds like you're kind of losing your voice.

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Speaker 6: You got to give me forty eight, guys, you got

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Speaker 2: That's frizzy.

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Speaker 5: I could tell. I could tell it was him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Todd.

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Speaker 5: Do you have any idea how important Todd was to

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Speaker 2: Because I thought you were awesome with that when you

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Speaker 2: about Todd Fritz, right, yes, okay, all right, fair enough. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know I'm a journalist, Todd. I got to

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Speaker 6: So I started at w F with Breen in the gang.

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Speaker 2: Well that's great to know, and I know the voice

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Speaker 6: Quite well.

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Speaker 2: That's Mike Breen, play by play voice for the Mothership

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Speaker 2: nobody wants to make a prediction, especially when you have

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, you think the Calves could go further

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Speaker 2: than Onklaombus here. All I know is my Rockets have

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Speaker 2: I told you at the beginning of the year. Now,

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Speaker 2: what about the Wagners, ladies and gentlemen, the Wagners, Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 7: I like that Todd is dining out on that shout

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Speaker 6: Well, that felt nice. That was nice.

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: How about you can you do the same thing for

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Speaker 6: Okay, I have to step on my game a little bit,

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Speaker 2: The Raiders are in search of their fifth head coach

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Speaker 2: that period and now with this opening, and I know

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Speaker 2: Dion says he wants to stay at Colorado. He's got

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Speaker 2: his son Shiloh as well, I wonder if that's something

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Speaker 2: Greg McElroy ESPN College football analyst. He'll be on the

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Speaker 2: call ABC ESPN tonight. It's Penn State, Notre Dame. How

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Speaker 3: Well, are you suggesting which way I would If I

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: He's become musty television. The Alamo Bowl game that he

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Speaker 3: He's appointment television for many And I think now with

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Speaker 3: I think it's easier to win on a consistent level

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Speaker 2: All Right, the point spread tonight is Notre Dame by

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Speaker 3: Well, it would be phenomenal, you'd know, Sean McDonough. Something

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Speaker 3: That would be two or three voice cracks potentially. But Dan,

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you. You've been a college football

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Speaker 3: But I think the college football Playoff, while we haven't

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Speaker 2: Best player on the field tonight will be.

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Speaker 3: When Notre Dames on offense. The best player on the

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Speaker 3: depending on their health. Abdul Carter in all likelihood will

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Speaker 3: he can be over the guard, he can blitz off

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Speaker 3: the second level like he's a very versatile piece. He

438
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Speaker 3: can move around. He is at less than one hundred

439
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Speaker 3: percent because of a shoulder injury that he has suffered

440
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Speaker 3: against Boise State. Played just seventeen snaps in that game,

441
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Speaker 3: so we'll be monitoring his availability as a game time decision.

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Speaker 3: Then on the other side of Jeremiah Love, who has

443
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Speaker 3: a right knee injury, the running back for Notre Dame,

444
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 3: he hasn't really been all that effective. He hurt his

445
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Speaker 3: knee against USC in the final week of the regular season.

446
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Speaker 3: And has like thirteen touches in the two playoff games.

447
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 3: Since the problem is that one of those thirteen touches

448
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Speaker 3: is a ninety eight yard touchdown run, so he's still

449
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: got great top end speed. But those are the two

450
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Speaker 3: players that I think are probably the most captivating television

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Speaker 3: for Tonight's game.

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Speaker 2: Handicapped tomorrow night's game. Ohio State Texas.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's on Ohio State, aren't they?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know it's I feel like you're getting Texas on sale.

456
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Speaker 3: From a handicapping perspective, Texas on the heels of a

457
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Speaker 3: two overtime win as a double digit favorite, two touchdown

458
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Speaker 3: favorite against Arizona State, Texas Scott flaws when yours is flawed?

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Speaker 2: Are you going to buy it? It sounds like you

460
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Speaker 2: would buy Texas a home game.

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Speaker 3: It feels well. Is Ohio State ever on the road?

462
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Speaker 3: I guess the other question that I've starting to realize

463
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Speaker 3: when it comes to neutral sites, man, Ohio State is

464
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Speaker 3: going to be there, and they're going to be like

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Speaker 3: and they're going to make their presence felt. I do

466
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Speaker 3: think though, that Texas is a really They're a team

467
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Speaker 3: that can absolutely match up. Again, I think they match

468
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Speaker 3: up really well. I'm not saying they'll win the game.

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Speaker 3: I actually think Ohio State will win the game. But

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna tell me I can get nearly seven,

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Speaker 3: if I get six six and a half five and

472
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Speaker 3: a half, I kind of lean Longhorns. I look at

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Speaker 3: where they're built in their strength. They're very similar to

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Speaker 3: Michigan with what they have along the defensive front. And

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Speaker 3: while I think Oregon's a good football team, I don't

476
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Speaker 3: think Oregon is as equipped. I know they beat Ohio

477
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Speaker 3: State earlier in the season. I also acknowledge though that

478
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Speaker 3: that version of Ohio State very different than the Ohio

479
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Speaker 3: State that they saw just this last weekend that the

480
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Speaker 3: Rose Bowl. Ohio State at that time in that game

481
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Speaker 3: lost their left tackle Will Howard was not yet as

482
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Speaker 3: comfortable as he is right now. Their receiver Jeremiah Smith

483
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: in that game was a good player, but not a

484
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Speaker 3: take over the game as the best player in college

485
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Speaker 3: football type of player at that point. So Ohio State's

486
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Speaker 3: very different. So they beat Oregon badly because Oregon took

487
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Speaker 3: the same plan that they used the first time around,

488
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Speaker 3: and they don't match up as well. Texas will kind

489
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Speaker 3: of keep things in front and their defensive line can

490
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Speaker 3: win the game. That's Texas's strength and that's where Ohio

491
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 3: State lost the game against Michigan. So I do think

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Speaker 3: that Texas matches up better than anyone else up to

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Speaker 3: this point in the postseason against Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Greg McElroy, ESPN College Football Analyst, He'll be on the call.

495
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Speaker 2: It's on ABC and ESPN. Sean McDonough will be there,

496
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Speaker 2: Molly McGrath, Katie George and that starts at seven thirty Eastern.

497
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Speaker 2: Also part of Omaha Production's Always College Football podcast. Co

498
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Speaker 2: host of Mac and Cube in the Morning on WJOX

499
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Speaker 2: in Birmingham. How often do coaches get out coached? Oh

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Speaker 2: a lot. I'll go back to what what Notre Dame

501
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Speaker 2: did against Kirby Smart, what Marcus Freeman did when they

502
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: swapped out and then they were gonna punt they were not.

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Speaker 2: Then you get off set. I mean, that's that's one moment.

504
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Speaker 2: But to me, that helped change the game. So I

505
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Speaker 2: don't know, Like you played for Nick Shaban, but the

506
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Speaker 2: number of times, like Bill Belichick, how many times will

507
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Speaker 2: he out coach somebody in the college in college games?

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny is it? And I know that

509
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Speaker 3: this is like the most obvious coach speak thing ever,

510
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Speaker 3: So apologize in advance. But more games are lost than one,

511
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like, we'll go back to

512
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Speaker 3: the game and the Sugar Bowl with Notre Dame against Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Two moments stand out in the game. Okay, one was

514
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Speaker 3: at the end of the half. They have a backup

515
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Speaker 3: quarterback in the game. Notre Dame is thinking, Hey, they're

516
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Speaker 3: going to run the ball, take it to half. The

517
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Speaker 3: game's going to be six ' three. Notre Dame's got

518
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Speaker 3: a slight lead, but for the most part, you know,

519
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Speaker 3: it's a low scoring game and it's lacked a lot

520
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Speaker 3: of offense. Well, they put their run defense personnel in

521
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Speaker 3: the game. R. J Oben is a guy that at

522
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Speaker 3: that moment had zero sacks on the season. Well, what

523
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Speaker 3: does he do. He goes right around the left tackle, stripsack, fumble, recovery.

524
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Speaker 3: Notre Dame on the next offensive snap, touchdown. Now it's

525
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Speaker 3: a game that is feels like it's blown open at

526
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Speaker 3: thirteen to three. That was one moment in the game,

527
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Speaker 3: and that was Kirby being probably a little bit too

528
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Speaker 3: aggressive there at the end of half. Hindsight's twenty twenty, Like,

529
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Speaker 3: do you really expect your left tackle to get killed

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Speaker 3: by a run stopping defensive end? Probably not all right,

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Speaker 3: So that was one moment. The other moment was, like

532
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Speaker 3: you referenced late in the game, Marcus Freeman ops to

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Speaker 3: run his punt team on on fourth and one, and

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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden run his punt team off

535
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Speaker 3: put his offense on, which allows Kirby's team and defense

536
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Speaker 3: to substitute. But they're thinking about getting lined up. The

537
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Speaker 3: last thing they're thinking about in that scenario is the

538
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Speaker 3: snap count. It was chaotic on the sideline, it was

539
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Speaker 3: chaotic near the line of scrimmage. Their best player again

540
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Speaker 3: and Jalen Walker, who's going to be a three or

541
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Speaker 3: four time All Pro in his career, lean's just ever

542
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Speaker 3: so slightly on the neutral zone, free play first down.

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Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, nine plays later, in six minutes

544
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Speaker 3: off the clock, they've stolen a possession. So I think

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Speaker 3: great coaches know how to just tweak and create that

546
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Speaker 3: slight edge to steal a possession, whether it's a timely

547
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Speaker 3: on sidekick, a fake punt, a surprise on sidekick, the

548
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Speaker 3: thing going forward on fourth down, maybe backed up and

549
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Speaker 3: getting it. Somehow, great coaches know at that perfect time

550
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Speaker 3: when to pull that card and play it. Marcus did

551
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Speaker 3: it once and Kirby made a mistake at the end

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Speaker 3: of half, and that's why the game ended up the

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Speaker 3: way it ended up.

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Speaker 2: How often have you had to or did you have

555
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Speaker 2: to consciously say to Greg McElroy, former Alabama quarterback, don't

556
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Speaker 2: be sec friend friendly because you're going to get criticized

557
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Speaker 2: no matter what, because we're going to read into what

558
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: you say and how you say it. But I'm asking

559
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Speaker 2: you understanding that have you had to remind yourself be

560
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: be as fair as possible, even though subconsciously it might

561
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Speaker 2: still be in your DNA?

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Speaker 3: I don't even know, And I think it's a great question.

563
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Speaker 3: I think it's all from a matter of perspective. Like

564
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Speaker 3: if you want to know who I am biased towards,

565
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: it's great teams, you know what I mean? Like like

566
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Speaker 3: I kind of just follow. I like to watch the

567
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Speaker 3: teams that executed at a really high level, like I really

568
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Speaker 3: really and I've all and whether it was Michigan last year,

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Speaker 3: or whether it was TCU two years ago, or whatever

570
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Speaker 3: the teams it may be. I've always loved Utah like

571
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Speaker 3: I just love how they you know, never maybe as

572
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Speaker 3: far as getting off the bus, maybe not the best team,

573
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Speaker 3: but even dating back to when urban Meyer was there

574
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Speaker 3: in the early two thousands, it's long been a team

575
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Speaker 3: I've just had a tremendous amount of admiration for. So

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Speaker 3: I've kind of found myself navigating to words the teams

577
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Speaker 3: that play really high level football. As far as the

578
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Speaker 3: SEC stuff, I do have more familiarity with the league.

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Speaker 3: Let's be real. I called five Georgia games this year.

580
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Speaker 3: I called four Kentucky games. You know, I called four

581
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Speaker 3: Ole miss games. I called a couple of the Tennessee games,

582
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Speaker 3: couple Bama games. You just have maybe a deeper understanding

583
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Speaker 3: of the depths of the roster. But there's never really

584
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Speaker 3: a point if you do your work professionally, I could

585
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Speaker 3: care less what patch they have on their jersey. I

586
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Speaker 3: simply see numbers, names, coaches, records, statistics, and tendencies. What

587
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: conference they align with is not one that I usually

588
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Speaker 3: pay a lot of attention to. And I know people

589
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Speaker 3: ask me all the time, how do you call Bama

590
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Speaker 3: games and not get not allow your fandom to come

591
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Speaker 3: out pretty easily because when I was in school, I

592
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: was probably harder on Alabama as a player, and I

593
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Speaker 3: could ever be in this line of work. So I

594
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Speaker 3: think if you look at it through a not a

595
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Speaker 3: critiquing lens, but a lens in which you're trying to

596
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Speaker 3: offer constructive criticism and point out observations, then the conference

597
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: affiliation should have no impact on how you call the game.

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Speaker 2: But college football is about brands. You know, everybody was

599
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: screaming for Alabama to be in the playoffs, and I go, no,

600
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Speaker 2: they don't deserve to be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I think it's about brands to an extent. I do

602
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Speaker 3: think there's there is this perception that you know this,

603
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Speaker 3: you know, they the big brands are going to get

604
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Speaker 3: preferential treatment.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that, but they do bring eyeballs.

606
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Speaker 2: Do they do bring like Notre Dame brings eyeballs?

607
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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: People are going to watch absolutely, absolutely, And I think

609
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Speaker 2: because of Alabama, they're like, well, do we want Boise

610
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Speaker 2: State or Arizona State in there? And we want Alabama

611
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Speaker 2: in there? And we saw Alabama against Michigan in the

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Speaker 2: bowl game. You know, they just weren't a great team

613
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Speaker 2: a good team this year and I think that's a

614
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: problem for college football. We get top heavy with Georgia,

615
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Speaker 2: Ohio State, Clemson used to be in there. It's like

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Speaker 2: the same six or seven schools every year that we

617
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Speaker 2: get programmed to think, Oh, those are the best teams

618
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Speaker 2: in the country. Arizona State was awesome. I mean that

619
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Speaker 2: was so much fun. And Boise State did what Boise

620
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: State was supposed to do. Indiana did what they were

621
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Speaker 2: supposed to do. Now do I think Indiana was deserved

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Speaker 2: to be in there? No from a talent perspective or

623
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Speaker 2: who they played, but they played who's on their schedule.

624
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Speaker 2: So I until we come up with a better format

625
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Speaker 2: with this greg or scenarios that make it fairer, you know,

626
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Speaker 2: I don't want us to fall back on well, I

627
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Speaker 2: don't know, just put Alabama in, put Clemson in. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't like that.

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Speaker 3: I worry what in doubt? What in doubt? Give the

630
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Speaker 3: teams with more stars, meaning like star ratings, the recruiting

631
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Speaker 3: ratings like don and Dowe, give them the benefit of

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Speaker 3: the doubt. I don't think that's the proper way to

633
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: go about it, because while would Alabama potentially have been

634
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: more competitive in the playoff setting, I have no idea,

635
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Speaker 3: you know, and that's why I can't sit here and

636
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: pound the drum. Oh. Clearly, we need to reevaluate, you know,

637
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Speaker 3: how we're seating teams or how we're putting teams in

638
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: and who should get in and who should Now I

639
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: think there are things we can do to adjust our

640
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: criteria by incentivizing improved and strengthened non conference schedules. I

641
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Speaker 3: would like to see that because that benefits all of us.

642
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: If we see stronger non conference games, that's going to

643
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: only create more intrigue and maybe add a little more

644
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: context to the conference supremacy argument. I'd like to see it.

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Speaker 3: We see it in basketball. If you play a murderer's

646
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Speaker 3: row schedule in the non conference, than your likelihood of

647
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: having a high RPI come tournament times really high. And

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Speaker 3: if you're nineteen and fifteen from Syracuse, doesn't really matter

649
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Speaker 3: because you make the tournament. Next thing, you know, in

650
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Speaker 3: a play in game, you're eleven seed, you're playing the

651
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Speaker 3: final four. So we've seen it in the past. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's definitely, it's definitely possible. I'd like to see stronger

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Speaker 3: non conference because right now, in beloaded conferences, you can't.

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Speaker 3: Not all SEC schedules are created equal, not all Big

655
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Speaker 3: ten schedules are created equal. So I think non conference

656
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Speaker 3: play is where we need to focus. And if we

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Speaker 3: can incentivize teams that go out of their conference and

658
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Speaker 3: play top tier competition, that should be rewarded, regardless of

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Speaker 3: the outcome. In some cases now they get blown out. No,

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Speaker 3: absolutely not, like that's a data point that needs to

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Speaker 3: be considered. But it also if it's close, and if

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Speaker 3: it was on the road and you tried to go

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Speaker 3: play a top tier team and lost, that should be

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Speaker 3: rewarded as opposed to playing an FCS team and winning

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Speaker 3: by thirty five. You know what I'm saying, man.

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Speaker 2: I think it should come down to Vegas should be

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Speaker 2: relied on to rank the teams, your top twelve teams.

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Speaker 2: It should be Vegas. Vegas has no opinion, no bias.

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Speaker 2: They're they are looking at what is the best matchups,

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Speaker 2: and I think I think Vegas would make more sense.

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Speaker 2: I don't want these automatic berths. I don't want any

672
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Speaker 2: of that. It should be here's the twelve best teams.

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Speaker 2: I saw you cringing.

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Speaker 3: Yes to an extent, yes, because if we did that,

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Speaker 3: then USC from a power rating standpoint at the season's

676
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Speaker 3: end at seven and five is in the mix if

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Speaker 3: we went strictly off Vegas. Now Vegas plays a little

678
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Speaker 3: bit on psychology too. I mean, why do you think

679
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: now power ratings are a factor, But there's also you

680
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Speaker 3: know which team is playing better at the moment, which

681
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Speaker 3: team is going to garner more public interest? Which team

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Speaker 3: is If I set the line, maybe shade the line

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Speaker 3: maybe a point point and a half higher, is that

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Speaker 3: going to generate more buzz and to create balance on

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Speaker 3: either side of the line. I just think Vegas, Vegas

686
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Speaker 3: has different incentives. While I understand and appreciate the thought

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Speaker 3: process of that, then at that point, why do we

688
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: play the game. Let's just have a sixty four team

689
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Speaker 3: tournament and let's just let's just see how things go.

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Speaker 2: That'll be enough rad and let's go.

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Speaker 5: I liked. I like.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's broken. The one thing I would

693
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Speaker 3: adjust is I think that Big ten and SEC conference

694
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: champions should be rewarded with a home playoff game. And

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Speaker 3: however we figure out the ball system after the fact,

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Speaker 3: I think we'll probably get rid of bias because it's proven,

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Speaker 3: at least in this tournament. That the buy does not

698
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Speaker 3: benefit you, and how can we get the conference champions

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00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: to get home games? That needs to be examined as well.

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Speaker 2: All Right, have fun tonight, Okay, I appreciate you, all right,

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Speaker 2: and be nice to both sides. Okay always Okay, Greg McElroy,

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Speaker 2: I'll be on the call with Sean McDonough tonight. Festivities

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Speaker 2: start at ABC and ESPN at seven thirty Eastern. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back after this.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

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Speaker 2: Chris Faller on the show tomorrow, Bill Cower on the

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Speaker 2: show tomorrow, Arizona State head coach, see you on the

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Speaker 2: show tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Kenny Dillingham is part of tomorrow show.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he'll bring some energy there. How about we write

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Speaker 2: the headline tomorrow's headline today for tonight's game Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: in Penn State. I'm gonna have Todd go last because

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Speaker 2: he's been killing it and he sets the bar too high. Marvin,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with you.

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Speaker 6: We are eliminated. Notre Dame goes to the national title game.

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Speaker 2: Wow Wow, and you got your Notre Dame sweatshirt on today?

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Speaker 2: Come on all day, all right, Paulie Tomorrow's headline today.

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Speaker 7: Mark us down for the national title game.

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Speaker 5: Seaton.

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Speaker 9: Uh, Pen's fate's fight maybe destiny not in the cards

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Speaker 9: for Nitney Lions. Penn's fate, destiny not in the cards,

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Speaker 9: not in the stars.

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Speaker 2: Take this serious one day. I am no you, I

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Speaker 2: am um set.

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Speaker 10: I'm letting Todd sharing. Here you go, Todd, Irish state

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Speaker 10: was more competitive. No, it's not good domination. Paul's done

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Speaker 10: an Irish joke at least fifteen hundred times times today.

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Speaker 6: Damonation, exclamation point.

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Speaker 2: When it's not good, it's not good, Marvin, I apologize.

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Speaker 2: I called you mcleven earlier in the show, like, man, what.

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Speaker 6: Did I do to deserve that?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: You know what, when I closed my good eye, you

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Speaker 2: kind of look like mcleven.

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Speaker 6: Wait, close your eyes one second. Okay. I love Andydon,

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Speaker 6: he's the best.

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Speaker 2: Hey, mcclevin, mcleby goes man. I got all these dms

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Speaker 2: from friends saying what up with that? I go, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I think that's the only time. Is that

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Speaker 2: the first time I've called you McLevin. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: ye month one month one. It happened like one or

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Speaker 2: two times. Is were going to break? Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: it won't happen again. Ray in New York, Hi Ray,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 8: Ray?

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Speaker 5: Hey? Ray?

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Speaker 3: Hie Ray?

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Speaker 2: Let me see Aaron in Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Hi erin.

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Speaker 11: Hi Dan second time long time six three to forty.

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Speaker 11: Just wanted to give you and the boys a little

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Speaker 11: chance to enjoy some of Iowa's finest food on your

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Speaker 11: road trip there. If you stop in a little ten

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Speaker 11: about in half hour north of Des Moines, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we'll work on that. Once we know when we're going.

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Speaker 2: We'll get suggestions from you. May not happen till like

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Speaker 2: May or June, but we'll let you know when we're going,

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Speaker 2: where we're going, and then you can offer up suggestions

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Speaker 2: there places to stop along the way. So just let's

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Speaker 2: not do that until we get ready to go there,

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Speaker 2: because nobody's going to write these things down, and we

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Speaker 2: want to make sure if there's places to see, just

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Speaker 2: like when we go to Green Bay, we're going to

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Speaker 2: be there for a few days. If there's a chance

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Speaker 2: we can go to a couple places, great, then We'll

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Speaker 2: try to do that same thing with the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: in New Orleans. And if you're in New Orleans and

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Speaker 2: you want to stop by on a Wednesday night at

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Speaker 2: Tippatinas at seven Central time, it'll be uh Dan Interviews Dan.

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Speaker 2: I'll be there with Dan Levitard and tickets are available

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Speaker 2: Danpatrick dot com across our social media platforms, Seaton, would

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Speaker 2: you give us final results of the pole? Questions, Paulie,

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Speaker 2: this day in sports history, what do you have for us?

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Speaker 4: Nineteen sixty two, the NFL banned the grabbing of face masks.

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Speaker 4: They thought about it the year before they voted against

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Speaker 4: it in nineteen sixty one. Soft nineteen seventy two, the

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Speaker 4: LA Lakers ended their thirty three game winning streak. Nineteen

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Speaker 4: seventy seven Super Bowl XI set a pro attendance record

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Speaker 4: of one hundred and three thousand, and in a gutsy

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Speaker 4: move in nineteen ninety, the Hockey News selected Wayne Gretzky

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Speaker 4: as the best NHL player ever.

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Speaker 2: Okay Radical all Right wild BiVO Francis in nineteen fifty

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Speaker 2: three scored one hundred and sixteen points. He played for

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Speaker 2: Rio Grand, a small college in Ohio, beat Ashland College

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Speaker 2: Well the NCAA said that doesn't count because Ashland College

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Speaker 2: at the time was a two year school, So less

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Speaker 2: than a year later he scored one hundred and thirteen

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Speaker 2: points against Hillsdale. That's a four year score. BiVO Francis,

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Speaker 2: that sounds like a not a thirty for thirty because

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many people would care, but like

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Speaker 2: this guy, I think he was seven feet tall scoring

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