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Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna have an epic crossover at UFC two

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Speaker 1: eighty four when featherweight champion Alexander Bolkonowski takes on lightweight

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Speaker 1: champion Islam Maka chev And what better way to get

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Speaker 1: ready for that epic crossover with a little crossover of

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Speaker 1: our own. Hello, everyone, welcome a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: UFC two eighty four preview. You know me, Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, the two hosts of Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Did you say this is the best crossover since Iverson

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Speaker 2: got Jordan in ninety six?

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Speaker 3: Remember that he.

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Speaker 1: Did get him? Yes, yeah, thank you for the interruption

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Speaker 1: that was totally unnecessary and joining me on the other

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Speaker 1: side here were actually in their place. I can just

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Speaker 1: be honest.

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Speaker 3: This is MK in the UK. This is really right.

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Speaker 1: This is the gentleman from m M A on point.

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Speaker 1: We have Alex who wants me to call him weird names.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: He's like, you'll call me by my fortnite tag Bagava.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, you can eat a bagavon of dicks.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. So no, that was good.

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Speaker 1: And at the end, Jason, Jason say your last name,

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Speaker 1: I don't know Hartly.

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Speaker 2: Jason Hartley, Yes, Jason, you guys may not know this

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Speaker 2: from his accent, but he's actually from the States.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So, how very I was at this earlier.

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Speaker 1: How very american of us to land in London and

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Speaker 1: the first thing we do is meet up with another

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Speaker 1: American to talk about well, I guess not really American

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Speaker 1: things this time. But gentlemen, how are you there?

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Speaker 4: Ay Goods?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really will thank you to be here.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to break down this shit.

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Speaker 1: So you ready to do this?

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Speaker 3: This is what is where I tag you in. This

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Speaker 3: is what I hang out with British men. This is

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Speaker 3: my that's my gym, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well of course he goes see two eighty four

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Speaker 1: goes down on Saturday, huge pay per view in the

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Speaker 1: sense of the main event. Real quickly, let's start, Alex

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Speaker 1: if we can with this criticism that Islam Makachev had

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Speaker 1: made about like I thought there would be a little

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Speaker 1: bit more promotion. Neither is a pay per view attraction.

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Speaker 1: The numbers don't support that, but it is number one

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Speaker 1: versus number two, which Dana himself, even though we couldn't

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Speaker 1: name Islam, which, by the way, you know, with my

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Speaker 1: own recall challenges. I'm not really mad at him about

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Speaker 1: but I get it. It didn't look great.

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Speaker 3: I bet you he new slapped Jesus's name.

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Speaker 1: He probably did your assessment of market Chev's complaint and

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Speaker 1: whether it's avouid.

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Speaker 4: I mean, in some ways you can you can see

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Speaker 4: how he feels, right. I don't think that they've particularly

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Speaker 4: views to do anything other than the ordinary sort of

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Speaker 4: set of promotions. But that being said, there is more

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Speaker 4: hype I feel building during fight week. That's typical. But

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Speaker 4: this is again like two guys on wind Streaks that

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Speaker 4: we have not seen since Mark Kerr for Eyorbov Chansion

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Speaker 4: right now, which is absolutely insane. It is literally a

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Speaker 4: has been no effort to even sort of promote that

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Speaker 4: angle of it. Yes, it's pound for power number one

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Speaker 4: standard ordinary stuff. There really isn't anything. I can't point

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Speaker 1: So I will say this em Man point does a

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Speaker 1: really great job with you know, a lot of different things,

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Speaker 1: but one of the things you guys really excel at

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Speaker 1: And some of it's just lists, like a top five

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Speaker 1: keen appreciation for it. I wonder this is we've we've been.

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Speaker 1: This is not a new criticism of UFC. They're good

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Speaker 1: at many things. They're not good, Jason at their history, right,

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Speaker 1: They're not good at telling it, sharing it.

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Speaker 3: Their history began when throof for purchase.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but what I mean to say is they're getting

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Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean you look at the Rock announcing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was an earthquake during Rashad's speech literally was yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, but uh, you would like to see that.

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Speaker 5: I mean a lot of people talked about trying to

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Speaker 5: So what would you actually prescribe? And so some people

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Speaker 3: You gotta have talkers.

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Speaker 5: Probably not that great, yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: But in terms of trying to do something a little

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Speaker 5: all his different things. He couldn't remember Islam's name, all

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Speaker 5: But I do think it is a little more difficult

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Speaker 4: They could gone to Rusia, they could have gone to Australia,

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Speaker 4: like that's still a world tour. Imagine swapping those two

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Speaker 5: In fact, I think they did last week and there

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Speaker 2: Right the fire, alex I had asked you if we

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Speaker 2: recruitment mission of US slappers, and then you were like, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you're ware of that, Luke Slappers.

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Speaker 2: Women of the Night, you're you know your post marines,

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Speaker 4: Just women in tight dresses that fall out bars.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's where that's how they starts a gateway drunk

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Speaker 6: Though at the end of the day, you know, look, Jade,

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Speaker 6: history one versus two pound for pound as selling it?

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Speaker 3: It's sexy.

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Speaker 2: This fight is sexy enough, like you almost don't need

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Speaker 2: even though Islam's right, you almost don't need a crazy thing.

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Speaker 3: Because it's sexy enough to the hard course.

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Speaker 2: But is this really one versus two pound for pound

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Speaker 2: Look? I I agree that if he dominantly beats Volkanowski,

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Speaker 2: you can make the debate that he's your new number

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Speaker 3: In your eyes?

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Speaker 5: Who would replace him? You know? Because Usman lost? Is

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Speaker 5: Sometimes it does feel like that, Like every time Aldo

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Speaker 3: I never forget that he was put Dan. He used

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of different ways that you could

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Speaker 3: One of two. Yeah, absolutely, I mean you have to

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Speaker 3: talk Luke into this fight. This guy loves vulkanowskis.

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Speaker 1: A great fight. Though it's a great fight. What do

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Speaker 4: The style matchup is very very interesting. Obviously, we've not

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Speaker 4: you know, Islam's much more of like I'm just going

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Speaker 4: And I think Volk is just going to dance around

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think Volk's probably the best striker. You

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Speaker 4: think Volk's got a pretty good chance of taking this bay.

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Speaker 1: Wow, well, Tike, it's a pretty it's a pretty decent summation.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing that I just don't see a

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Speaker 4: Proposition as well. I think the power is an interesting

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Speaker 4: I feel like Voges, the accumulation of damage is not

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Speaker 2: No one ever says I'm going to go in there

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Speaker 3: Hold on now, yeah, what about this Habib factor?

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Speaker 3: Is an overrated narrative. Are we not respecting Javier Mendez?

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Speaker 5: Ridiculously overrated because I mean, you consider what happened with

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Speaker 5: just like, why does weight cutting like really exist? It

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Speaker 5: But I mean, like, compare the amount that boxers and

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Speaker 5: I think that's the biggest reason that weight classes exist.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we saw with Izz he what did he

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Speaker 5: he didn't care if he made weight because he thought

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Speaker 1: Than it was.

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Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, this is like.

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Speaker 3: In the Nipple to be fair something. Look, I just

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Speaker 4: I like the argument, obviously making a strong point, But

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Speaker 4: I mean, don't forget he was a wrestler. He started

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Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that much obviously, but it's not like

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Speaker 1: No, But I think what Craig Craig can do some

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Speaker 1: giving Volkanovsky some options where if the wrestling fails, what

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Speaker 2: I might not allowed to watch and you know, and

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Speaker 3: That the exchange of analysis among grown men.

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Speaker 2: Delusion because I slept two hours on the plane last

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Speaker 1: Does this weird smile where it looks like he's trying

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Speaker 1: to be clear about that, Okay, But the point about

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Speaker 3: So Craig explosions?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like that employee culture in the UK, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, it's fine. No, you can edit.

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Speaker 1: A look at our producer. He's like, dude, what have

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Speaker 5: You can say the famous C word here. You can

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Craig Craig Jones, I think might be giving him

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Speaker 4: Vogue for his builds, He's very quick, so in those

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Speaker 4: I feel like Volk's game is how how quick can

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Speaker 2: A lot of people, I mean, look, more people are

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that, dude, Alex is too smart, too

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Speaker 2: good a footwork. Could he spend some stretch on his back, yes,

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Speaker 2: But dude, he showed me so much in.

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Speaker 3: That Ortega fight.

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Speaker 2: Man, how will how And it's not just the toughness,

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Speaker 4: Right back on the offense as well afterwards.

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Speaker 5: Right, and to your point earlier you're talking about the

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Speaker 4: So scramble bridge from the hips, like, yeah.

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Speaker 5: That's a much different version of who Volkanovski is now.

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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody could really do what Chad Mendes

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Speaker 1: Ye, Well, he got taken down boy or take It's

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Speaker 1: like fine, fine, if you think that's the guy that's

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Speaker 1: showing up a two eighty four. You're very mistaken, you know, Alex.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting spinoff question.

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Speaker 2: But for Tega moving forward, it really has nothing to

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Speaker 2: Cortez and they did buy a house together. Do you

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Speaker 4: My thing ultimately based on his interactions with people like

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Speaker 4: on with his life. He's going to go back to

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Speaker 3: And he also crushes a lot.

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Speaker 5: You give me the vibe sometimes, like you know how

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Speaker 5: Louis j Gotte, sometimes you give me that vibe. Just

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Speaker 1: It's good higher existence with him, his family guy, he

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Speaker 1: just be walking around. I remember that time you stepped

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Speaker 3: They give us awards only for your anouns. I call

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Speaker 3: that's the only reason.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's the Brian Campbell grenade. He just rolls the grenade

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Speaker 2: Take similar to you cutting through first class on the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. All right, let's talk about significance real quick.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll get to the comin event, Jason. If Vulk wins,

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Speaker 1: how big of us starred does that make them?

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Speaker 5: It's really hard to say. I mean we've heard the reports.

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Speaker 5: It's going to sell more than Connor and Habib by.

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Speaker 3: The way in Australia New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, keep seeing me.

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Speaker 2: That's true, And it wouldn't be a paper every week

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Speaker 1: Like I will say this in Australia New Zealand, just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think last I looked at that video,

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Speaker 5: best guy doesn't always get all the attention. You know,

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Speaker 5: you you do see that over time it builds. But

441
00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,720
Speaker 5: I mean Anderson Silva took forever before he was able

442
00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,920
Speaker 5: to start selling pay per views. GSP did it pretty quick,

443
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Speaker 5: but he had a whole country behind him.

444
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Speaker 1: You know.

445
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Speaker 5: Sometimes you just have these attributes that come along with you.

446
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,560
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm not one hundred percent convinced, but I

447
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,760
Speaker 5: think from the hardcore fan community, I think a lot

448
00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,440
Speaker 5: of people want him to win, like people want him

449
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,640
Speaker 5: like I've probably heard that more than anywhere else. It's

450
00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,520
Speaker 5: like an eighty percent decision in the head for him,

451
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Speaker 5: but you know it's probably gonna go the other way.

452
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Speaker 1: You know.

453
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Speaker 3: It's like that he's.

454
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Speaker 4: Almost too nice of a guy. You know, there's not

455
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Speaker 4: really anything polarizing about him which might in some way

456
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Speaker 4: play against him. Right, He never really talks shit unless

457
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,120
Speaker 4: anyone else like steps to him. He always talks about

458
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Speaker 4: how people can't bully him. I don't know if that

459
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,720
Speaker 4: like is necessary to be a star, but like I

460
00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,400
Speaker 4: don't know if he like crash his car or something.

461
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Speaker 4: You know, there might be some more media headlines.

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Speaker 2: I will say, like normally I try to make a

463
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Speaker 2: debate because I think the you could There's two different

464
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Speaker 2: five fight stretches in John Jones's initial light heavyweight title

465
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Speaker 2: reign where I'm like, that might be the best consecutive

466
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Speaker 2: five wins in terms of like level of talent, dominance

467
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Speaker 2: all that. I'm not going to extend this to like

468
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Speaker 2: it's just the best eight fight stretch. But Vulcan in

469
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Speaker 2: the midst of not only a what is it a

470
00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,680
Speaker 2: twelve fight UFC win streak, an overall twenty two fight

471
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Speaker 2: win streak, but this last eight fights Mendez by stoppage,

472
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Speaker 2: three wins over Holloway or Taga in a crazy fight

473
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Speaker 2: where he showed us how tough he is, dominates Korean zombie.

474
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Speaker 2: If he goes up a second division beats a guy

475
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Speaker 2: who's in the top two pounds for pound, like that's

476
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Speaker 2: the that's the key question.

477
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Speaker 1: From me, he becomes Mount Rushmore convers Yeah, like is.

478
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Speaker 2: He legitimately in the upper room the top five guys.

479
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Speaker 1: If he goes and beats Islam, and everyone's gonna have

480
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Speaker 1: a different list. But at that point, sure, false Bolkanowski

481
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Speaker 1: would be in the conversation for a Mount Rushmore fighter.

482
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Speaker 4: But like based on his popularity amongst the general facts.

483
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Speaker 1: Different question.

484
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Speaker 3: Rushmore level is crazy.

485
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Speaker 2: I mean, we are talking about John Jones, Anderson Silva,

486
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Speaker 2: George Sanpierre, maybe Fad or maybe Demitris Johnson, like you know, Tabi.

487
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 2: Maybe we're talking about like Jose Alder, Like this is

488
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Speaker 2: a rarefied club and some of those guys aren't even

489
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Speaker 2: making it. Won't people say, hey, Islam was great against Charles,

490
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Speaker 2: but the only other kind of elite win he has

491
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Speaker 2: is Dan Hooker.

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Speaker 1: So sorry, you go up a weight class and you

493
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Speaker 1: beat the guy that fucking just.

494
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying yeah, but you're talking about Mount Rushmore,

495
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Speaker 2: so there is there is, you know what I mean, Like,

496
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Speaker 2: does he really get into that group?

497
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Speaker 1: Okay, if he can beat Islam Markachev? Right his question

498
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Speaker 1: for you? If right now Volkanowski can beat Islam Makachev,

499
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Speaker 1: who at one fifty five can he not beat?

500
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Speaker 3: That's another fair point and those eight consecutive wins would

501
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Speaker 3: be I mean, there's beating that guys.

502
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Speaker 2: Three wins over Max Holloway, and they're including one whey

503
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Speaker 2: batter in the.

504
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Speaker 1: Last one where he like I hate again, I keep

505
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Speaker 1: haid to say he dummied Max. In the last one.

506
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Speaker 1: Max was lost. Uh, and I think that was a

507
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Speaker 1: sobering moment for him and his team, you know, because

508
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Speaker 1: they're smart guys, but that was that was bad In

509
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Speaker 1: any case, I don't know if you guys what we don't.

510
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Speaker 1: We'll do predictions at the end, So let's get we

511
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Speaker 1: can moved to the komain here a fight that I

512
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Speaker 1: even said yesterday on social media. I'm surprised that the

513
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Speaker 1: lack of not buzz but just chatter. Yea Rodriguez fights

514
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Speaker 1: Josh Emmett for the interim featherweight title. Of course, his

515
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: implications if Vulk goes up and beats Islam, he says

516
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna defend both. I find that to be nonsense.

517
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Speaker 1: I love Vulk, but no, it's not you I.

518
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Speaker 3: Want to, but the promotion he will want to be like.

519
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 1: An injury is gonna happen and then you know you can't.

520
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 1: It's just not possible, it's too difficult, so he's gonna

521
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Speaker 1: pick one, which makes this one kind of interesting, especially

522
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Speaker 1: with Max Holloway fighting Arnold Allen pretty soon. But sticking

523
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Speaker 1: to this fight here, Alexi Rodriguez and Josh Emmett at

524
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Speaker 1: its core, what is this fight about.

525
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Speaker 4: Well, you've got a like a wrestle boksa against a

526
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 4: long range cake box. I think what's what's quite interesting

527
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 4: is that Yaya is so unique in that division, Like

528
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Speaker 4: there's not many guys that have a kicking base star

529
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 4: at one, and he kind of he struggled with Wrestless previously.

530
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Speaker 4: But if he can negate that he has so many

531
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Speaker 4: tools a lot of these guys don't have, and he

532
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 4: can give so many guys problems, I think Josh Emmitt's

533
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 4: in for a real long night if he can't at

534
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 4: some point initiate some kind of takedown. Because he ducks,

535
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 4: he stays low, he pitches hooks and overhands, over the top,

536
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 4: and Yaya just runs around you and just kicks the

537
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 4: shit out of you, basically on the feet. I think

538
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 4: Josh is gonna have a really tough time. He's an

539
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 4: alpha male guy. They like to get on the inside,

540
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 4: close the distance. So for me, one thing is it

541
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Speaker 4: could be the final ascension of Yaya Rodriguez, which I've

542
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 4: been waiting for for a long long time. You know,

543
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 4: we never got that as a beat fight, which was

544
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 4: the only two guys with that similar style. So it'd

545
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: be nice to see if Yaya can actually get to

546
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Speaker 4: the level that was kind of predicted, like Mexican Champion,

547
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Speaker 4: et cetera. And then Josh Emmett like the not really

548
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 4: a journey man, but a guy who has been campaigning

549
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 4: for so long, but a man. I don't know. I

550
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Speaker 4: just love the style matchup, and I think Yaya is

551
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Speaker 4: going to have a lot of fun. I think he's

552
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Speaker 4: gonna have a lot of fun letting those kids. Yeah,

553
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 4: a lot of blood.

554
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Speaker 3: You know.

555
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Speaker 2: We talked to him at at length, and we had

556
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Speaker 2: him on the Room Service Diaries, and it's just like

557
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: he's just like, this is my style, and I'm going

558
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: out there to walk right in front of you and

559
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: grind and take it. And it's like he had to

560
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 2: pour out so much of himself to be in particular

561
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: cater Beregos and those two great close fights, but really

562
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: the whole run, it's like he's just just peeling off

563
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 2: another layer every time, and he.

564
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: Was losing the Michael Johnson fire before he came.

565
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Speaker 3: Back to win this fight against this guy.

566
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Speaker 2: He's already telling us like, yeah, I'm gonna go, and

567
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: like he's gonna like whatever, he's gonna whatever.

568
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Speaker 4: Time catching him, I think unless he catch the one thing,

569
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Speaker 4: the one.

570
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Speaker 1: Thing I'll say is I I think that's probably right.

571
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: But Josh Emmett packs all punch. Yeah, he doesn't need

572
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: to hit you many times to cause serious problems. And

573
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: he just lunges into them too. You know, he gives

574
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Speaker 1: everything he's got, you know ya hear? I think is

575
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: in every way the superior striker. And the more I mean.

576
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Speaker 4: The windows are there is what you're trying to say.

577
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the problem is it's like, while I can

578
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Speaker 1: envision a scenario where Rodriguez is better for long stretches

579
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: of the fight, dude, one of those things is can

580
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Speaker 1: steal an obviously, cause a finish, any number of that

581
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: create future difficulties, swallow up and I I mean, you

582
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: name it. He's just got dynamite in his hands and

583
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: it has carried him to this point at a bare minimum.

584
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: To the other point, though he takes a lot of

585
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: damage as well, which he just fully accepts. He's like, yes,

586
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: it's I go into these knowing that they're going to

587
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: be bloodback.

588
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: At that him up.

589
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: If you carry that exact same mindset, you're not looking

590
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: to shoot a lot or establish that threat and you're

591
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: just looking to walk in and he's gonna get So

592
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: it's future thinking. Both fights have to play out. But

593
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: if Volkanovsky respectfully loses to Mahchev comes stays at featherweights,

594
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: still the champion. As much as I I'd love to

595
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: see josh Ammat's story complete because I respect his journey.

596
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: A potential of.

597
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 2: A Yai Here Rodriguez versus Alexander Volkanowski fight at featherweight

598
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: for the title to unify that title that gets me

599
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: up in the morning.

600
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Speaker 3: Luke, okay, I don't need a leddy pills.

601
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Speaker 5: I could be wrong about this, but I think the

602
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 5: only double champ ever to actually go back and defend

603
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 5: after winning the second belt is a mandon who knows

604
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 5: and there's an obvious reason why featherweight doesn't exist. Cormia

605
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 5: didn't go back down.

606
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: A heavyweight, but he didn't go back to jail.

607
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, he basically abandoned everybody that's gone.

608
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: Did he didn't he in succession defend against Volcanosdamir and

609
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: then that was then John Jones.

610
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was January, and then he fought in July

611
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 5: against the first that ship.

612
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: And then and then then Derek Lewis at the end

613
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Speaker 3: of that year.

614
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: Right, yeah in New York. Yes, yeah, they say that sneeze.

615
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: And his back and then he fell off the chat

616
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: the press conferences and everyone was like.

617
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Speaker 2: Oh, you know, some people, you know, I love DC

618
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: so much, but but I'm also willing.

619
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Speaker 3: To fat chambm you know what I mean.

620
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: It's not fair, but but you know, he he's really

621
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: enjoying the afterlife.

622
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: And I got I got a.

623
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Speaker 1: Do you guys have foot locker here? Yes? The foot

624
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: locker employees. Do they have to wear clothes like a ref? Yeah?

625
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: We see. BC makes fun of Daniel Cormier when he

626
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: when he.

627
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: Was dressed like a ref and that WW match they

628
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: did something.

629
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Speaker 1: BC had a lot to say about his weight. That's

630
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: what I didn't but BC thought it was.

631
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Speaker 3: DC is my favorite interview of all time.

632
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's sort of talk about the possibilities here. He

633
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: likes the Rodriguez fight. I have to tell you, I

634
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: think either way it's great, But sticking with the Rodriguez one,

635
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 1: it would be huge for UFC. I brought this up

636
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: a million times, but it is relevant. Danny Sigurress talked

637
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: about it. You could have a year where Brendon brenand

638
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: just one. You could have three more Mexican champs. And

639
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: that's unlikely, but it is certainly on the table. And

640
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: obviously these are very very talented fighters. Boy for a

641
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: guy like Yair, who has been kind of this prodigal

642
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: son in certain times in his career to come back

643
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: and get that, that'd be to have two Mexican champions

644
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: at the same time.

645
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna fight for the and so you could

646
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Speaker 3: you could do.

647
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: It is possible, you could get four Mexican champions in

648
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Speaker 1: a year. For a community that has been as rock

649
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: ribbed in boxing as Mexicans, to get a little bit

650
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: of that in MMA would only be good. Yeah, right,

651
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: So that we have an historic moment an opportunity there

652
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: for the UFC. Yeah, do you have it a comment

653
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: on that?

654
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 5: Just yeah, I mean absolutely, I think it's kind of

655
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 5: a sleeping giant in the MMA world. That really hasn't

656
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 5: been tapped into. They tried so hard with Kane Velasquez

657
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 5: and going to Mexico City and that ended kind of

658
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 5: tragically with you know, sea level kne jokes and all

659
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 5: that stuff, a.

660
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: Right Brazilian who spoke better Spanish than him at the top.

661
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: It is kind of weird. Yeah.

662
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, he showed up like a month before it, got

663
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 5: himself acclimated to the altitude and Caine was just like,

664
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 5: uh no, I don't have any Cardio and his name

665
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 5: was Cardio Caine.

666
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

667
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 5: In terms of it, I mean, I think it's absolutely massive.

668
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 5: You know, we've thought about even you know, just for instance,

669
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 5: looking at our own metrics, translating what we do to

670
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 5: a Spanish speaking audience, and that's always been one of

671
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 5: the ones that stands out because there's such a large

672
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 5: demand for it, the kind of things that you know,

673
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's true, but Cambat is always

674
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 5: claiming that they're outperforming things like Bellator and PFL. I

675
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 5: don't know if that's all really true, but I think

676
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 5: the audience is absolutely there, and I know he has

677
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 5: done a really great job, but to have another person

678
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 5: right next to him, I think would.

679
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: Be here, Jason.

680
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 2: When you were growing up in the States, did you

681
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: flip through the channels and come across the Sabagante on the.

682
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: On the Spanish speaking Now, when you say that, did

683
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: I ringo that they had women on there?

684
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: When we were like little kids, I was like watching

685
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: the Benny Hill Show, right, Kelly, that was the one.

686
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: That was the one. Well, you have to watch El

687
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Gordo Fla, that's the one you have to watch. He

688
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: was in that. It's literally what it's called. It's a

689
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: fat dude and a really hot woman and they have

690
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: a variety show together. It's ridiculous. All right, neither here

691
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: nor there. Getting back to this. For Josh Emmett, here's

692
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: a guy who had We talked about this when we

693
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: met him. Great guy, by the way, great, super great guy,

694
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: but like you know, I mean, not a guy who's

695
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of lucky breaks and one of these

696
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: guys who kind of reminds you of the Teddy Atlas

697
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: quote like twenty five minutes or thirty minutes to make

698
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: life fair, whatever the quote is. There. He seems like

699
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: that guy here, Jason, what do you make of his chances?

700
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: And then if he does succeed, he becomes an interim champ,

701
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: which means he'll get pay per viewpoints and me it

702
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: would be transformative for him. What is the real upside

703
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: for him too? What's what's possible here for him? Oh?

704
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 5: Man, Well, I mean you guys were talking about everything earlier.

705
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 5: With his ability to get knockouts, I would say he

706
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 5: probably has the best two knockouts in featherweight period. You know,

707
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: we have Connors over all.

708
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Day, that's a big club a lot.

709
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: Can you back to the day? I mean, come on,

710
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: where are you going with that?

711
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me pull up in terms of like how spectacular.

712
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 5: They were just sleeping dead, just absolutely sleeping them dead.

713
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: Michael J. Connor over Jose is probably number one, right.

714
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he popped up pretty quick, you know, like

715
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 5: they were like stiff as a board when he knocked

716
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 5: him out, Like Michael Johnson was like a tree trunk

717
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 5: falling over type kind of knockout. And then you look

718
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 5: at that left that he landed on Ricardo Lamas, Like

719
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 5: that is probably the best ever at one forty five.

720
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 5: It might not be the most consequential, it might not

721
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 5: be the most meaningful knockout in the division ever, but

722
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 5: I mean in terms of a chance his chances rather,

723
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 5: I think I definitely lean more ya hear you know.

724
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 5: I know we said we were going to wait for predictions,

725
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: but I think he's definitely got a chance. At any

726
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 5: point in time the Michael Johnson fight, I think he

727
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 5: was down and they were in the third at that point.

728
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 5: I mean, this is a guy at any point in

729
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 5: time who can do that. And in terms of what

730
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 5: it means for his career and what that, I mean,

731
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 5: that would just be such a huge projection because I mean,

732
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: just think about all the storylines in this one right now.

733
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 5: We just got done talking about how overshadowed this fight

734
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 5: already is, and he's probably the most overshadowed aspect of it. Now.

735
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 5: Year has become quite popular, I would argue, over the

736
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 5: last couple of years, Josh Emmett has had these weird

737
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 5: little stints where he's been in out. Like you guys said,

738
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: he hasn't had the most luck in life. But if

739
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 5: he can take this opportunity, in my opinion, what is

740
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 5: the best main event probably they'll make this entire year.

741
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 5: John Jones and all that aside.

742
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: I mean I.

743
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 5: Would rate it over that because I do believe it's

744
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 5: the number one and two pound four pounds on the

745
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 5: planet right now. So if he can get a win,

746
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: and if he can steal that stage and he can

747
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 5: do something spectacular, I mean talk about still in the

748
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 5: show on this show, it's a really big deal.

749
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: He's a huge deal.

750
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd have to bleed a lot though to get that.

751
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't like either of them their chances against Volkanovsky,

752
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: if that's what they're up.

753
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: They've both got.

754
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got a different quottion, different element in here though.

755
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: He's a little bit more dangerous.

756
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: Yes, but the wrestling would be the game plan for

757
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: volcal right situation.

758
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, coming off the market share fight, you

759
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: would imagine he would be ready to go.

760
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, something happened in the loss to Max where like, yeah,

761
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: he became absolutely legit where he used to be like

762
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: a firecracker, almost a liability at time, Like you know, mean,

763
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: like he was so up and down, big promise, didn't

764
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: follow through. Like, just dude, something happened even though he

765
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: lost that Max fight, he just put it together that night,

766
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: Like that's a win in disguise.

767
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: Again, you know it is. He's got so many tools

768
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 4: that nobody's got in that division. You know, it's like

769
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: his ability to change his punches, his kicks together. He's

770
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: he's gonna leg kick Josh all night. He's gonna throw

771
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 4: straights and then bang the body cakes behind that. It's

772
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: all on on Josh to time either Yaya on that

773
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 4: at the exits after he's throwing the kicks, or to

774
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: slip and roll under those straight punches where there aren't

775
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 4: kicks behind them, where he's decided to initiate the boxing range,

776
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: because that's where all Josh's knockouts come from, when people

777
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: have exchanged with him, or where he's slipped on the

778
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: inside and come over the top. And like everyone he

779
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 4: has knocked out, I've all been boxing with him, really,

780
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: and I just think Yaya is number one not going

781
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: to engage in that, especially not early. And then everything

782
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: else that comes around it. I don't know. It's it's

783
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 4: a fun fight. It's a great style that is five rounds. Yeah,

784
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 4: one hundred percent.

785
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean, people like the INTERN title sucks, and I

786
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: wish you could do it without the intern title, but

787
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: it does confer some modest but important benefits, one of

788
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: them being, of course, it's going to be for five rounds,

789
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: which I really like.

790
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: I wonder if the flying knees will come into play

791
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: because Josh sits so low. That's my things factor.

792
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: I'll say this, Yeah, here's going to leave his feet

793
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: probably more than once for a variety of reasons. The

794
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: hell knows she is. He is always a firecracker that way.

795
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: It isn't It's not an unfair way to describe him.

796
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: It's just not a complete way.

797
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: No, right, that's all is should Hey noticed before we

798
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: started filming that even though the rest of this car

799
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: pretty much blows except for Jack, Dela Medlena, this guy

800
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: Alex is really excited about another matchup.

801
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah he's he's not telling the truth.

802
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: This Jimmy crew on Menifield.

803
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: It's gonna be five minutes of absolute hell and war

804
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 4: and they're going to just try and knock the Bejesus

805
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: out of each Why would you.

806
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: Not want to say that it doesn't do much. I mean,

807
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a terrible fight or anything like that.

808
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: Just why are you against fun?

809
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: Well, you know it's funds a little way to open

810
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: the cod.

811
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: It's actually a planned intervention. We were faking the whole

812
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: analysis leading up to this point.

813
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: Real quickly, Jack Dyla Medlena Randy Brown. You gotta love

814
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: this one. Huge contest for both of them. Randy Brown

815
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: has been on a quiet but important win streak. Yeah,

816
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: four in a row and some of those he squeaked by,

817
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: but yes, four in a row. And Jack Dala Medeleanna

818
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: looks like the future of welter.

819
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: Wait three first round KO twenty two.

820
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: It just has I mean great boxing, great boxing, gentlemen,

821
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: Please tell me what you love about.

822
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: This great body too.

823
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: I mean like he's execution of no dude, he's he

824
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: he works out like whoa yeah, but.

825
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: That's not necessarily I think he's not like that.

826
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: One of the best executions of technique within any division

827
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 4: right now. He's so precise with everything he fires. It's

828
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: such a fun fight. It's almost similar to ya Josh.

829
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 4: But I feel like if if you took out Josh

830
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 4: Emmer and put Jack Dela Madeleine in there. With his

831
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: ability to close the distance and to like when you

832
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: throw jabs, he's moving forward underneath them all the time,

833
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 4: I feel like he has the tools to close a

834
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: distance on Randy, and Randy doesn't threaten a lot from

835
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 4: the outside with with big dangerous weapons. It's not like Yaya,

836
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: where there's power behind the kicks and that the head

837
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 4: kicks are coming in there like they're vicious. It's touching,

838
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 4: it's front kicks. It's like snapping straights. But it's a

839
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 4: lot of jab jab pouring and people who double jab

840
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 4: Jack Dela Madeleine. He just gets right under it, steps in,

841
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: bangs you with a straight right, and he always stands

842
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 4: opposite starts. So if he's finding south ball, he'll go south.

843
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 4: Portion's a northodox, go orthodox, so it helps him close

844
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: that distance down the center and I will put it.

845
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: He's on top of ship every hand over that job.

846
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 4: So I think I think Jack's gonna slowly pressure him

847
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 4: back to the cage and I don't might get it

848
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: done within a round. I think he doesn't.

849
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Randy Brown has a He is good,

850
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: but he has shown a propensity at times to be

851
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: pressured backwards, either for wrestling purposes or striking. He can

852
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: get he can get corraled against a guy like Jack

853
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: Dale Medelana, who uses corralling so forcefully as a part

854
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: of his game.

855
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: Against Jack, If you for one second start to shell.

856
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 4: He'll just unload on you.

857
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: He's just like right eight Company, great body puncher, great

858
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: body puncher. Jack Dale Medelana, by the way, I think

859
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: I've detected Jason have you as well? He's It's still early,

860
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: but I'm noticing that Jack Dale Medelana has a bit

861
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: of the hardcore fans blessing as like our guy. Have

862
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,479
Speaker 1: you detected that as well? Yeah?

863
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 5: One thousand percent. So at the beginning of the year,

864
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 5: I always do like a prospects list, and I threw

865
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 5: him on that. But part of the reason is he

866
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 5: was just so inescapable.

867
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: You know.

868
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 5: I just put out a tweet and there were so

869
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 5: many responses for Jack Della Jack Della over and over

870
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 5: and over and over again. You really get kind of

871
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 5: a sense of what the fan base really likes. And Yeah,

872
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 5: in terms of this fight, I don't know, man. I

873
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 5: think Randy Brown has obviously the reach advantage. I think

874
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 5: he has obviously the ground what you would presume the

875
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 5: ground advantage because we've seen him look so good in

876
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 5: fights in the past. But I mean Ramzan and me

877
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 5: tried to take down Jack Dla Madelena and he just

878
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 5: absolutely couldn't do anything there. He was able to get

879
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 5: out of that, and like it was literally like thirty

880
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 5: seconds later, our guy me was out, he was done.

881
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 3: It was over.

882
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 5: And you want to talk about the Dagistan flavor. That's

883
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 5: where Me is from. You know, he's literally from mash Kala.

884
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 5: So I think he looks really great on the grounds.

885
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna get right back up. He's gonna

886
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 5: pop back up, just like Folkville or people hope Volk will.

887
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 5: I don't mean necessarily fights, but he would in most fights. Yes,

888
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 5: I think this is really going to be a showcase performance.

889
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 5: I love Randy Brown. I think he's fantastic, but I

890
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 5: think this is going to be a showcase performance for

891
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 5: this guy in his hometown for Jack Dylan Mout.

892
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: They know their ship Luke, and they've had some reindeer

893
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: games for us, and you know, I was, I was.

894
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.

895
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: They knew us, they knew they knew you would real

896
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: quick rate that tatuh Alex Forum Edition.

897
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: So confused.

898
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 2: Those are tremendous arm tats you got there, Alex shut

899
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: out all right.

900
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 4: So you'll I haven't seen a tie yet.

901
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: That was nice. I mean, I got a bunch of

902
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: show all right, real quickly, let's do predictions. Let's go

903
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: around main event. What do you got?

904
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 5: I've got Islam by I think it would probably be

905
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 5: some sort of decision or strangulation, so we'll just say

906
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 5: it's going to be an r n C.

907
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: Well, I picked Islam the other day, but I'm just

908
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: gonna pick Vogue because I.

909
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: Name Dungary.

910
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 4: That exactly right, I never made. I don't like predictions,

911
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: but I'll go vo Volk.

912
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, by.

913
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 4: Decision.

914
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also don't like predictions, but they make me

915
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: do it. I keep trying to tell them. It's like

916
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: none of us have any fucking idea that's not wonderful.

917
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: But for fun. Uh, I haven't been an official pick yet.

918
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: I put myself like, just like, I'll probably go market

919
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: Chev but yeah, my decision.

920
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: I think Alex can fight to the finish.

921
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, by decision coming Jason.

922
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 5: I'll go with ye and we'll say it's a stoppage

923
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 5: in the second. Yeah, let's say Lane's a head kick.

924
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 5: Let's go for a fun one.

925
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: That's that's not bad, that's not a bad prediction. I'm

926
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: gonna go ya. Yeah, I don't know. I reckon he

927
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 4: could finish him I'll say ya by t K, but

928
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: probably I think it'd be a bit later.

929
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like cuts and ships.

930
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say t K three or four when the accumulation.

931
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 4: Of a.

932
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, stoppage win in the late at fourth because it's

933
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: just there's so much blood.

934
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean, does everyone here a daily madeline? Yeah, for sure.

935
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get big. Jimmy Kruka.

936
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: Had a crazy full.

937
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't like the mullent. I'm not a I'm not.

938
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't ironic or otherwise. I don't well, I mean,

939
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: look at it. I can't tell if he dressed this

940
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: way or just found these clothes.

941
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, you know we fit in well with these flos.

942
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, I thought the British were like all

943
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: about this banter whatever on the train right.

944
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: Over, Lukes, like you think they're still sore about the

945
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 3: Revolutionary War. I'm like, like, we didn't.

946
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: Even take the train together, dude, the cab fucking ride

947
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: I took here. I mean, I can't believe I wasn't

948
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: obligated to just give him my fucking ATM card. I

949
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: mean it was so expensive. But okay, gentlemen, it has

950
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: been great to do this with you. I'm so glad

951
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: we made time.

952
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.

953
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you guys invited us. On Point is

954
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: doing really incredible things. Uh. If you're an m K fan,

955
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: you should be an m A on Point fan as well.

956
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: And it's uh, well, they just do so many They

957
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: do breaking news in certain ways. They do documentary stuff, lists,

958
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: beer pong. Uh. You guys have live programming as well.

959
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: You got an impressive studio, multifaceted. I mean it smells

960
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: like a young English boy. But you know I got

961
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: past that quitting pretty quickly.

962
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: All right.

963
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what that st.

964
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 5: That's a little old shout out to Tom and Zach

965
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 5: working behind the scenes.

966
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: Feel great. They brought us in. And so what we'll

967
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: do is you'll be highly disappointed and wonder why that

968
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: you ever invited us to begin with. But if you

969
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: make your way to the States, we'll return the favor.

970
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: We'll get you guys into our studio, which is the

971
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: equivalent of being in a what.

972
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: He's like, cut it, cut it?

973
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I can't. We can't. When did teasing become

974
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: they call it bullying? I don't know that's what happened,

975
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: but that's Jason, that's Alex, I'm Luke. That's Brian Campbell.

976
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. Enjoy UFC two eighty four.

977
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: We appreciate you.

978
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: Else Where can we where can we catch you streaming?

979
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: Oh, Twitch dot tv, slash baileyon and then just YouTube

980
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 4: dot com, slash Emma point, man point.

981
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: That's right, some of the best stuff that is in

982
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: all of m A media right now.

983
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: Jason fu off

984
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: Sorry, we'll talk offline.