WEBVTT - Luke’s Diner: The Louisiana Lorelai

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<v Speaker 1>I Am all in Again, Luke Steiner with Scott Patterson,

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<v Speaker 1>an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody Scott Patterson, Iamle and podcast Modeline productions iHeart Media, iHeartRadio,

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<v Speaker 2>iHeart Podcast another edition of Luke Steiner of a very

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<v Speaker 2>special Guest with Me. Toya Body is a master master

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<v Speaker 2>of her craft. She specializes in putting a twist on

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans style dishes and cooks with a southern flare.

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<v Speaker 2>Native of New Orleans, she started honoring her culinary skills

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<v Speaker 2>at a very very young age and used her talent

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<v Speaker 2>to kickstart a very successful career as a culinary authority

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<v Speaker 2>on Cajun and Creole cuisine. She enjoys bringing creativity to

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen and teaching people how to take a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of New Orleans back home with them. Welcome, Toya, how

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<v Speaker 2>you doing? Pleasure to have you?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you first realize food was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>your love language? Where was there a dish that started

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<v Speaker 2>it all?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? I think I realized late, but when my body

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<v Speaker 4>and just spirit reacted to it that food was going

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<v Speaker 4>to be my solution and way of being.

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<v Speaker 3>When I used to I had.

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<v Speaker 4>A bad summer school habit, so I used to go

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<v Speaker 4>to summer school from six to twelfth grade. For every

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<v Speaker 4>time math hit, I was just like, I'll catch it

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<v Speaker 4>in summer school and.

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<v Speaker 3>Do the homework and get a deep you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Mom used to call it doing fine grades these and f's.

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<v Speaker 4>So in order to pay for summer school, I needed

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<v Speaker 4>to get a job, because she was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>paying again. So at fifteen, I made two plates of

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<v Speaker 4>food and I walked down the street to the corner

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<v Speaker 4>stores and I asked the people, would you hire me?

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<v Speaker 4>And one place said no, and the other place said yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was fifteen cooking at a corner store for

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<v Speaker 4>a neighborhood in New Orleans. Corner stores are like a

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<v Speaker 4>big thing, like it's catering style food. I was doing

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<v Speaker 4>at like fifteen, So I would say that was the

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<v Speaker 4>beginning of me knowing it was a solution. And at

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<v Speaker 4>nine I started cooking, and that's when food became my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>A cooking prodigy, if you will, by the time you

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<v Speaker 2>were fifteen, you had all the skills, not all, but

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<v Speaker 2>a lot a good bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even know that if I wrote my book.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was writing the part, I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>I was fifteen, doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>So in New Orleans is in every part of your cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it mean to cook like you're from New Orleans?

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond just the.

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<v Speaker 4>Ingredients, it's almost the meals we cook in New Orleans

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<v Speaker 4>and how we do things in New Orleans is kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like experiencing our food from an actual local.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like getting a hug on a plate, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, it's not it's not just something you eat, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just something you kind of live out almost you experience

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to food. It's it's therapy, but it

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<v Speaker 4>goes back towards history of how we all ended up

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<v Speaker 4>in New Orleans, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>So, like food was the highlight you know for many people,

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<v Speaker 4>especially people who were in poverty, who grew up a

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<v Speaker 4>certain way, food was their luxury. Like if you know,

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<v Speaker 4>some people are like, no, this expensive lamp is the thing. No,

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<v Speaker 4>your mama making stuff peppers with actual like lunk crab

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<v Speaker 4>meat outside of a holiday, that's all, you know, Like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that's that's when you know, like you broke

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<v Speaker 4>up back with this one, you know. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's getting that love and that and that feeling

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<v Speaker 4>that vibe that we have in our food. That's why

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<v Speaker 4>everything tastes different here right right?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there? Is there? Is there a well wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a cookbook. Yeah, I mean cooking for the culture.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it's called. What's one recipe from your book

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<v Speaker 2>that that you think everyone should try?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah? Can I steal too?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>One? And I have to pay homage because one with

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<v Speaker 4>the gumbo because of the history. You know, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I someone would think it was cliche. Why

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<v Speaker 4>I love teaching gumbo to people, But it's really the history.

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<v Speaker 4>When you find out it's a I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot like my life. I was a rags to

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<v Speaker 4>riches person, so the gumbo is a rags to riches meal. Like.

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<v Speaker 4>It started out on the tables of the poor and

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<v Speaker 4>made its way to the tables of.

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<v Speaker 3>The wealthy, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So it derived from scraps and it became this thing

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<v Speaker 4>that people travel from all over the world to taste

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<v Speaker 4>a real bowl of gumbo, no matter whether had gumbo.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, man, I want to go to New Orleans

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<v Speaker 4>and get a bull of gumbo, and I want to

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<v Speaker 4>get something Yay's like for real you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I would say the gumbo because of the history and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, ancestors kind of thing. But if I said

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<v Speaker 4>for survival for all people, I would say the Friday

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<v Speaker 4>eggs and rice. It's so simple, Scott. It's like what

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<v Speaker 4>you would call like what we call like because like

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<v Speaker 4>one of the locals who saw me at my book

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<v Speaker 4>released a couple of years ago, was like, girl, I

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<v Speaker 4>can't believe you put fried eggs and rice in a

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<v Speaker 4>cookbook like that, like worldwide, like because it's like a

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<v Speaker 4>hood classic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something you do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, when you hungover, you don't have much money,

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<v Speaker 4>you got rice, you got ags, you got butter, salt

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<v Speaker 4>and pepper.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, you know. So and my kids, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 3>what I make them. I'm Scott.

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<v Speaker 4>Them jokers will eat fried egg and rice over anything.

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<v Speaker 4>You would think. It's like a luxury meal to them.

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<v Speaker 4>So those are the two things. Affectionately, I would say,

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<v Speaker 4>I would want you to try it first from the cookbook.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a certain kind of rice that's the most popular?

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<v Speaker 4>No, just regular like Uncle Well in New Orleans we

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<v Speaker 4>use a lot of Uncle bends, like parble old rice,

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a little farmer it's not as soft, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so like that rice, as long as it's ice cold,

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<v Speaker 4>you throw it in a pan like that and cook it.

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<v Speaker 3>You good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, I love it. I love it. I

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<v Speaker 2>love it. Is there a classic New Orleans dish that

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<v Speaker 2>you know that you think is misunderstood?

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<v Speaker 4>I would think I would go back to gumbo. People

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<v Speaker 4>handle it like it's a soup, or like it's a stew,

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<v Speaker 4>or like it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Something they they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like a lot of times it's it's misunderstood

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<v Speaker 4>in a way of tradition. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>random stuff I've seen being put in the gumbo and

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<v Speaker 4>they're calling it a New Orleans gumbo. New Orleans food

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<v Speaker 4>is one of the most pirated food scenes that I've

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<v Speaker 4>ever seen. When I say pirate, like are like pirate.

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<v Speaker 4>It's everyone claims it. Everyone does weird things and says

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<v Speaker 4>that's a New Orleans gumbo. You know in New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 4>you know they you know, people joke in other parts

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<v Speaker 4>of Louisiana. They joke like we think we're a state

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<v Speaker 4>of our own, but it's like, hey, our way is

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<v Speaker 4>like living on Mars in comparison to New Orleans. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a whole new thing. It's different. Also historically, it's

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<v Speaker 4>different settlers, so the food styles are different. So in

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<v Speaker 4>New Orleans we have a specific way we do gumbo,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and I think it's misunderstood and changed way

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<v Speaker 4>too much. I've even seen snow crab legs being put

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<v Speaker 4>in gumbo like carrots, all kind of foolishness. Spot it's games,

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<v Speaker 4>like motel games.

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<v Speaker 3>It shouldn't happen, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've you've been on many many cooking shows up

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<v Speaker 2>what surprised you the most about being behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 2>of one of those shows?

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<v Speaker 3>What surprised me most.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it the speed with which you had to prepare

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<v Speaker 2>those dishes.

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<v Speaker 4>How big the kitchens actually are because the shots, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And before this, I've been on sets because I started

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<v Speaker 4>out in the art world doing poetry and acting, so

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<v Speaker 4>cooking becoming a chef was something.

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<v Speaker 3>That the universe forced on me, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But when it comes down to it, I didn't understand

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<v Speaker 4>how much and how big the kitchens were. I remember

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<v Speaker 4>on a full Network Star they had a scene where

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<v Speaker 4>this guy, he made the other chef, maybe he was

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<v Speaker 4>about six three sixty four and I'm five to one, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So you can imagine what's going on. He's running with

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<v Speaker 4>a sheet pan and I running the opposite way. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>running right, I mean towards him, and I didn't pay

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<v Speaker 4>attention to be to see each other. And he smacks

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<v Speaker 4>me in the neck and the reason why I was running,

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<v Speaker 4>and I got a scar and I was made a

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<v Speaker 4>gift on Twitter uncomfortably enough, and I didn't realize how

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<v Speaker 4>far that everything was away. So I had the full

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<v Speaker 4>speed run in order to make the timeframe.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope you're okay. I hope you're okay. What's

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<v Speaker 2>the most rewarding feedback that you ever received from a

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<v Speaker 2>TV judge.

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<v Speaker 4>That I was real that it felt like they really visited,

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<v Speaker 4>like conversing with me even when the mice cut off,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, which I feel like is the important time

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<v Speaker 4>if you're doing anything on a set, when you're dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with the people on set and stuff like that and

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<v Speaker 4>other judges and stuff, those little moments really mean a

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<v Speaker 4>lot that you could take away. And that was one

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<v Speaker 4>of the things that them responding to me and telling

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<v Speaker 4>me I felt like New Orleans to them, because it

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<v Speaker 4>is hard work to remain yourself on television. You know

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<v Speaker 4>when you're representing yourself to be authentic. It's hard work,

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<v Speaker 4>especially when my colloquialism is in my vernacular, like all

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<v Speaker 4>of that is kind of like this, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's it it. You naturally want to bend and be

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<v Speaker 4>hello today, I'm cooking this, and I'm cooking that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and for me to randomly drop for yay, because that's

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<v Speaker 4>how I speak in New Orleans, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 4>think that was one of the things because I always

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<v Speaker 4>felt like as an artist, my character was my currency.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the thing that's gonna get me a job.

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<v Speaker 4>They got to They got many people who pretty and

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<v Speaker 4>could stir a pot at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe city right, right right.

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<v Speaker 4>I need my character to be consistent every show that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on, in every person that I meet, and having

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<v Speaker 4>them treat me not just like a contestant, but look

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<v Speaker 4>at me and think and tell me, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going somewhere mm.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm, your authentic self at all times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, you gotta be real.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. You've cooked on shows like Guys, Grocery Games and

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<v Speaker 2>The Today Show. How's it? How is being a TV

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<v Speaker 2>chef different from what the people picture when they think

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<v Speaker 2>of a professional kitchen.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh see, it's two different lines. I have friends who

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<v Speaker 4>are actually like back of the house chefs, and they're like, tee,

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<v Speaker 4>I could never do what you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I don't want to talk to people at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to cook.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, It's a whole nother ballgame when cameras are swinging

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<v Speaker 4>around you, you know, I think that's where my my

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<v Speaker 4>thespian training came in to play worked out, and all

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<v Speaker 4>of those things worked in you know, worked in my favor.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's it's a lot different because you kind of

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<v Speaker 4>have to know how to never show that the sky

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<v Speaker 4>is falling. I've had times where the stove wouldn't work

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm pretending to cook on live TV and even

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<v Speaker 4>tasting as if Scott's stuff is done when it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>So my thing is I don't believe in dropping a

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<v Speaker 4>ball and showing sweat. I don't care how much. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't care how it is in a room. You bet

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<v Speaker 4>not drop drop a sweat, you know. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot tougher in a lot of like that, Like

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<v Speaker 4>when you're cooking, it's almost like a breath hole when

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing things, even though I look effortless when I'm

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<v Speaker 4>doing it. I don't eat or drink before filming because

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<v Speaker 4>of those like my nerves can run so much no

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<v Speaker 4>matter how many times I've done it, So it's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of bravery.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one thing to let people taste your food, that's

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<v Speaker 4>easy to me. But to display show and deal with

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<v Speaker 4>the candidness of different personalities on camera, that's a whole

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<v Speaker 4>nother dance and ballgame. And honestly, the last time I

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<v Speaker 4>went on the Today Show, when I did the Other

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<v Speaker 4>Hour with Jenna, one of the sound people complimented me

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<v Speaker 4>when they were taking my mic off, and she said,

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<v Speaker 4>I really appreciate how you pay attention to timing, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>timing and knowing that it doesn't matter if they're moving

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<v Speaker 4>too slow. As the host, I need to speed this up.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to walz down because I.

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<v Speaker 3>See them signaling. I'm always looking and thinking and looking

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<v Speaker 3>and thinking. So it's a whole nother dance.

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<v Speaker 4>You know of a lane we just kind of made

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<v Speaker 4>up as an entertainment show.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into a little Gilmore universe here, Luke Steiner,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're aware, is famous for simple food and

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<v Speaker 2>grumpy service. Which I am the author. If Luke hired

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<v Speaker 2>you for one day to revamp the menu, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you adding and what's the first thing you're throwing out?

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<v Speaker 4>Man, gotta add gumbo, first thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm well, gumbo and grilled cheese. That's a public school

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<v Speaker 3>staple in the wallings.

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<v Speaker 4>We eat gumbo and grilled cheese at school in public

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<v Speaker 4>school systems.

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<v Speaker 3>Also my Salisbury steak.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, that Salisbury's steak cuts like cake, its song. And

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<v Speaker 4>the garlic mashed potatoes like the I like fight off

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<v Speaker 4>vampires with my garlic mashed potatoes. Like I'm put literally

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<v Speaker 4>a fistful a bruised garlic in the water when the

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<v Speaker 4>potatoes are boiling.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I would definitely add that.

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<v Speaker 2>M you chomp up the garlic when you throw it.

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<v Speaker 3>In halfway half.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like chunks, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I like surprises.

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<v Speaker 2>And you put it right in the boiling water.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I take it, I put it down, I pop it,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I throw it in the water or sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>I chop.

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<v Speaker 3>It in your store.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to see chunks of everything, okay, like and

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, especially if I sawtam some sautam and

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<v Speaker 4>get them like brown.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you can get like a whole clothes with me.

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<v Speaker 3>I really enjoy doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well it's the flavor. People feel love when they

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<v Speaker 3>see chunks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. That's a good point. Mm hmm, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good point. Uh. Was there like a Luke's diner

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<v Speaker 2>in your neighborhood growing up? Place everybody went not just

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<v Speaker 2>for food, but to feel, you know, connected with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>The corner stores, the corner stores.

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<v Speaker 4>Man the corner stores, you can get a plate of

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<v Speaker 4>food for dinner, you can get breakfast, you can get

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<v Speaker 4>a T shirt, you can get jumping cables, colognus. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not exaggerating, Luke play. I called you Luke, Scott. The

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<v Speaker 4>fact that I called you Luke is hilarious. But Scott,

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<v Speaker 4>if if I send you a picture it sends you

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<v Speaker 4>a video of the inside of the corner store, you

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<v Speaker 4>will fall out on the floor laughing. You were like,

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<v Speaker 4>why is a bong in a corner store? Why do

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<v Speaker 4>you have T shirts? What is this? Like? You can

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<v Speaker 4>get like the tune up in a bottle for your car,

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<v Speaker 4>like anything is in our corner store.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like a culture.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. That's why in my book I did corner

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<v Speaker 4>Store classics, because like everybody loves.

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<v Speaker 3>The corner store in the wall, and you go there

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<v Speaker 3>and you get to know the people.

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<v Speaker 4>You get to know the panhandlers that's outside asking you

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<v Speaker 4>for a dollar. You know, there's nothing about them. It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't got us today.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't got us today. I got it tomorrow. Give

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<v Speaker 3>me tomorrow. Like that's how cool you become with the

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<v Speaker 3>people outside the store, you know. So it's it's that

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<v Speaker 3>feel here.

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<v Speaker 2>Another Gilmour question. You can throw a dinner party with

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<v Speaker 2>any three Gilmore Girls characters. Who's coming and what are

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<v Speaker 2>you serving? Who you're inviting to that you know who.

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<v Speaker 4>The little the little girl who used to bully and

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<v Speaker 4>annoy Rory the most.

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<v Speaker 3>Paris Paris, Rory.

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<v Speaker 4>And Laura I one I would like to I would

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<v Speaker 4>like to get down to the bottom of I would

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<v Speaker 4>like to unpack Paris to see, honey.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened with you? Why are you like this? You

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<v Speaker 3>know those type of people.

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<v Speaker 4>I really as a person who helps and motivates people,

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to figure out Paris right.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would just like to observe.

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to observe and to talk about the

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<v Speaker 4>connection that mother and daughter connection that they have in general,

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<v Speaker 4>because I have the same thing with my daughter. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>when the show released was right after I had my

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<v Speaker 4>baby at sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, my oldest.

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<v Speaker 4>Daughter is is she just turned twenty six?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So you had her in two thousand, you had her

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety nine or two nine and the show came on.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you discover the show back then?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw it and I looked at it and I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to realize, Scott, my whole life was rocked.

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<v Speaker 4>That summer was the summer I got my first job.

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<v Speaker 4>It was also the summer I got pregnant at fIF

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<v Speaker 4>My sweet sixteen birthday was in Planned Parenthood.

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<v Speaker 2>Your laure Lie Man New Orleans, laure.

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<v Speaker 3>Lie, It's unreal when I saw it.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember seeing it after I had her and thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how it will be like.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was still sixteen, and I wasn't a regular

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen year old.

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<v Speaker 3>I was very reflective.

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<v Speaker 4>That dramatically changed my life because I saw the know

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<v Speaker 4>it all was knocked out of me, right, So I

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<v Speaker 4>saw that my choice changed everyone's life. My mama dropped

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<v Speaker 4>out of college, My sisters helped, like you know, my

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<v Speaker 4>daddy went off shore. We're double time, like I saw.

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<v Speaker 4>I just realized, Oh I thought I was just a

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<v Speaker 4>nothing kid. But my nothing self made a huge choice

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<v Speaker 4>that affected everybody's life. So maybe I'm not nothing. I

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<v Speaker 4>need to pay attention that I may be something.

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<v Speaker 2>You see fascinating?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that was so it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Even when this interview came about, I looked at it

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<v Speaker 4>and I thought, not, isn't that interesting, isn't that interesting?

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I was sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>I was sixteen, and I was a parent, and it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't that funny stuff where kids still going to football games. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I was at work, my mama did, my parents didn't play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, right right?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's when I mean, so at sixteen, you already

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<v Speaker 2>had a year in with the corner store cooking, and

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<v Speaker 2>so the cooking continued. It just continued.

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<v Speaker 4>And no, it didn't because my dad quit for me

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<v Speaker 4>because the person I got pregnant for what was there.

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<v Speaker 3>I met there. So that's how that happened.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I started working at a grocery store, and

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<v Speaker 4>the cooking continued slightly because I would be bagging or

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<v Speaker 4>doing things and I would eat these frozen dinners, Michellini dinners,

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<v Speaker 4>or the banquets. I love guilty pleasure, love the cheap

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<v Speaker 4>banquet dinners, like the Salisbury steaks.

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<v Speaker 3>Man throw a little Tony's on.

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<v Speaker 4>Top of that, you know what I mean, Like it's

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<v Speaker 4>just a little season to kick it off, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So I would eat that, and what I would do

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<v Speaker 4>is I would taste the meal and go home and

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<v Speaker 4>mimick it because I can cook my taste. I taught

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<v Speaker 4>myself how to cook when I was a kid. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 4>both my parents can burn scott like they can cook,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, so it was natural, but the cooking.

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<v Speaker 3>My mama wanted me to go to culinary school.

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<v Speaker 4>I went, and I dropped out, and then I started

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<v Speaker 4>doing acting in theater and poetry and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I got deep abstract art that world.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Until I was like it took me how many years

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<v Speaker 4>to finish culinary school, like twelve a two year program,

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<v Speaker 4>because I would drop in and out because I was like, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't want to be in a kitchen.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to be on stage, right, And I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know that food was going to be the vehicle to

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<v Speaker 4>me getting on television, which was very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just surrendered.

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<v Speaker 2>That is fascinating, absolutely fast. So you could just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a great athlete or a very gifted athlete youth

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<v Speaker 2>can see a picture of somebody performing, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hitting a home run, and they can just mimic that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, it's tastes it's like well, and you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Do that with food. You could do that with recipes

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<v Speaker 2>or if you tasted something you knew how to recreate

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<v Speaker 2>it somehow, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Or anything artistically that I can taste or process clearly

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<v Speaker 4>in my mind, I can undo it and do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's honestly connected to me having synesthesia.

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<v Speaker 3>I could see sound, so okay, my paint is it?

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<v Speaker 4>My artwork is incredibly abstract, right, But like even my

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<v Speaker 4>for instance, I could do that with food. But I

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<v Speaker 4>was getting my fingers tattooed, and you know, anyone who

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<v Speaker 4>gets tattoos know that this is the hardest part of

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<v Speaker 4>the tattoo to get the ink to the stick. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching the tattoo artist touch it up for

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<v Speaker 4>like the third time, and I looked at him and

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<v Speaker 4>I said, I bet if he rocked back and went forward.

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<v Speaker 4>I bet if he rock back and went forward, it

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<v Speaker 4>would stick. And I didn't want to tell them what

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<v Speaker 4>to do because I'm sensitive around artists. So I did

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<v Speaker 4>what most lunatics would do.

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<v Speaker 3>I bought a.

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<v Speaker 4>Tattoo gun and I tattooed my own fingers and it stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that. You got it done.

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<v Speaker 5>He saw it, and he said, man, you are crazy,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe crazy talented crazy talented right, like anything, you just

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<v Speaker 5>do it, just pick it up to it yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it.

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<v Speaker 4>In my mind, if I could see it, or if

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<v Speaker 4>I could smell it and think long enough, I can taste, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this needs something earthy, like uh stage, you know, sage

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<v Speaker 4>gets the gaming, or if you don't, if someone doesn't listening,

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't understand the idea of a game. He taste it

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<v Speaker 4>tastes like sometimes meat can taste like it's been running

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<v Speaker 4>around for a while. That's exactly what it like like

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<v Speaker 4>if we're running around for all while, you know, so well,

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<v Speaker 4>get that out. You know you can find like a

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<v Speaker 4>poultry blend. But like say you knock some of that

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<v Speaker 4>running around tastes out, you know, so something earthy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the line of the day, right there. I love that. That.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, it's so good now.

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<v Speaker 4>Watch when you eat something that is a season well,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna think, man, this really tastes like it's been.

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<v Speaker 3>Running around for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that smell kids have when they come inside

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<v Speaker 4>from playing outside.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that tastes.

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<v Speaker 4>Like if you have somebody like one time my daddy

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<v Speaker 4>was being queaz Sometimes it was brown and ground meat

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<v Speaker 4>without seasoning it, and everybody walked in the house mad

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<v Speaker 4>that Sunday, like, who did that?

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<v Speaker 3>You're not season that first, daddy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is somebody who isn't gifted. Oh that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here we go. If you were to come

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<v Speaker 2>into Luke's Diner, what would you order and where would

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<v Speaker 2>you sit?

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<v Speaker 3>Country christ Stake and I would sit at the bar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, hands down, Yes, make that connection.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, that's what the best conversations happened and

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<v Speaker 4>the funniest stuff happened. I love being witty with the

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<v Speaker 4>person behind the counter.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Hilary's.

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<v Speaker 4>You see the craziest stuff when people come up to order,

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<v Speaker 4>or people just pop off and say ridiculous things.

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<v Speaker 3>You can kind of have comebacks, like you know New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you can kind of porch talk at the bar, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what we do in Nu Orleans.

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<v Speaker 3>Were quick with like one line of ans like right

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<v Speaker 3>right right, people.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you almost talk into strangers like you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>well enough, you know, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what I like about the bar. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>bar kind of girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Cooking for Culture is the book. You have other books, right,

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<v Speaker 2>You have more than one.

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<v Speaker 4>I have one other that I released first, cook like

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<v Speaker 4>a New Orleanian. Cooking for the Culture is the very

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<v Speaker 4>first book that I did where I got signed by

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<v Speaker 4>a actual like it was like a publishing company, w W. Norton.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's my latest one that I'm working on another

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<v Speaker 4>one right now that'll be released next year, okay, and

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<v Speaker 4>it has a lot of a lot of heavy hitters

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<v Speaker 4>in it too. I really like doing cookbooks because I

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<v Speaker 4>really like people to feel like they can provide for themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, food is like fight or flight.

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<v Speaker 4>You need food to live, you know, you need fight

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<v Speaker 4>or flight to survive the terrains of this land. So

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<v Speaker 4>if I can take some of the edge off and

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<v Speaker 4>give you simple steps with clear instructions, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think everyone can cook. You know, I really believe that

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<v Speaker 4>everyone can cook. I just think that a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>us have encountered and grew up with food bullies, you

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<v Speaker 4>know that do a lot of unnecessary critiquing. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think in hiding recipes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's another thing.

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<v Speaker 4>People will hide that macaroni and cheese recipe like they

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<v Speaker 4>gonna cook it in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Afterlife, right, you know. So it's it's crazy. I like

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<v Speaker 3>this spill of beans with food no pun intended.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So everybody listen, go get Toya's book, Cooking

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<v Speaker 2>for the Culture. More books to come. Pleasure talking to you,

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<v Speaker 2>please come back. It was a blast getting to know

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<v Speaker 2>you a little bit and how you do what you do.

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