WEBVTT - The Execution of Rose Butler

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership

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<v Speaker 2>Rose Butler was born in Mount Pleasant in Westchester County,

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<v Speaker 2>New York, in November of seventeen ninety nine, and at

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<v Speaker 2>the age of nineteen, she was executed by hanging in

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<v Speaker 2>Potter's Field, located in what is now Washington Square Park

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<v Speaker 2>in Greenwich Village. She was the last person hanged for

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<v Speaker 2>arson in the state of New York, and the event

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<v Speaker 2>attracted thousands of spectators. Let's talk about how she got

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<v Speaker 2>to the gallows. Welcome to Criminalia. I'm Maria Tremarky.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Holly Fryme. Starting when she was a teenager,

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<v Speaker 1>Rose performed domestic services for the Morris family in Manhattan

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<v Speaker 1>that would have included things like cleaning, cooking, serving meals,

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<v Speaker 1>and caring for children. She had been in their home

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<v Speaker 1>for only a few years when early one morning, a

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<v Speaker 1>small fire broke out, damaging just a couple of wooden

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<v Speaker 1>steps in the kitchen. Though members of the family were

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<v Speaker 1>home at the time asleep in the upper level of

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<v Speaker 1>the house, no one was injured and the fire was

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<v Speaker 1>quickly extinguished. The family blamed Rose, and not just for

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<v Speaker 1>the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>The Morris family, specifically Missus Morris, accused Rose of stealing

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<v Speaker 2>and accused her of arson. Missus Morris called her quote resentful.

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<v Speaker 2>Rose went on trial for her alleged crime in the

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<v Speaker 2>Case of the People against Rose Butler. She was charged

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<v Speaker 2>with arson, detailed as quote, setting fire to a dwelling

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<v Speaker 2>house inhabited at the time, by which only a part

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<v Speaker 2>of it was consumed. She was indicted and stood not

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<v Speaker 2>before a jury, but before the Honorable Smith Thompson and

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<v Speaker 2>his honor CD Colden, as well as one of the aldermen.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to murder and tree reason, the state of

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<v Speaker 2>New York had added arson to its list of capital

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<v Speaker 2>crimes in eighteen oh eight, about ten years before Rose

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<v Speaker 2>found herself accused, and that meant Rose could be sentenced

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<v Speaker 2>to death if she was found guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>Rose initially took full blame for the act of arson

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<v Speaker 1>in the Morris home, claiming that she had placed combustible

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<v Speaker 1>materials on the third step in the kitchen staircase. She stated, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>my mistress was always finding fault with my work and

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<v Speaker 1>scolding me. I never did like her. The most impactful

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<v Speaker 1>part of her trial came not from Rose, but from

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<v Speaker 1>her defense team. The defense focused on what was and

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<v Speaker 1>what was not an inhabited dwelling, and the argument went

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<v Speaker 1>along these lines. In New York, prior to eighteen oh eight,

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<v Speaker 1>the crime of intentionally burning any dwelling, a house, or

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<v Speaker 1>a barn was punished by life in prison. In eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>oh eight, that law changed, the act of intentionally setting

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<v Speaker 1>fire to an inhabited dwelling became punishable by death. If

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<v Speaker 1>the structure was an uninhabited dwelling or a house of

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<v Speaker 1>worship or public building, the crime carried a sentence of

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<v Speaker 1>imprisonment not to exceed fourteen years. The law was revised

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<v Speaker 1>once again in eighteen thirteen, and the defense insisted the

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<v Speaker 1>revision was to distinguish that some personal injuries should be

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<v Speaker 1>caused or expected if the dwelling was to be considered

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<v Speaker 1>inhabited at the time of the crime. So, if you follow,

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<v Speaker 1>their point was Rose didn't commit arson on an inhabited

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<v Speaker 1>dwelling because nobody got hurt, and that meant that even

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<v Speaker 1>if she was guilty of intentionally setting that kitchen fire,

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<v Speaker 1>she would be incarcerated and not executed. The defense also

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<v Speaker 1>argued that two to three kitchen steps that were partially

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<v Speaker 1>damaged by fire was just not sufficient enough damage to

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<v Speaker 1>be considered a capital offense.

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<v Speaker 2>The judges, though, felt differently and determined Rose to be

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<v Speaker 2>guilty of arson. They stated, quote, the facts in this

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<v Speaker 2>case show the malicious and criminal intent of the prisoner

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<v Speaker 2>as much as if the whole house had been consumed.

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<v Speaker 2>She was sentenced to be executed by hanging, but with

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<v Speaker 2>the definition of an inhabited dwelling left unanswered, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least left kind of fuzzy. Rose's case was heard on

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<v Speaker 2>appeal by the Supreme Court of the State of New

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<v Speaker 2>York that may was Ros's fire just a common law

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<v Speaker 2>crime punishable with imprisonment or was it actually a capital offense.

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<v Speaker 2>It's reported that Attorney David Graham ably and eloquently argued

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<v Speaker 2>that Rose's case was not a capital crime, but he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't convincing enough. Chief Justice Spencer delivered the court's unanimous decision, stating, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>the burning fire in this case was sufficient to bring

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<v Speaker 2>it within the meaning of the statute, which constituted it

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<v Speaker 2>a capital offense and punishable by death. Rose's appeal had failed,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was arraigned by the court clerk. She had

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<v Speaker 2>no final statement to make.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Woodworth then delivered Rose's sentence, speaking directly to her

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<v Speaker 1>in the courtroom. He had quite a lot to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to share a good piece of it

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<v Speaker 1>with you. So here we go, quote Rose Butler. The

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<v Speaker 1>crime for which you are to suffer is justly considered

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<v Speaker 1>among the most atrocious of human offenses in all civilized countries.

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<v Speaker 1>Its punishment has been marked with severity. At this time

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<v Speaker 1>the legislature distinguished the case of burning an inhabited dwelling

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<v Speaker 1>house by declaring that every person convicted of this offense

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<v Speaker 1>should suffer death for the same. Under this law, you

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<v Speaker 1>have been tried and convicted. You had the benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>counsel to advise with you and assist you on the trial.

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<v Speaker 1>The evidence of your guilt was clear and satisfactory. Your

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<v Speaker 1>case has been submitted to this court and ingeniously argued

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<v Speaker 1>after the most mature deliberation. We are of opinion that

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<v Speaker 1>it falls within the statute under which you have been convicted.

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<v Speaker 2>He continued, stating, your crime is originated in a wicked

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<v Speaker 2>and depraved heart. You a servant in the family. Confidence

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<v Speaker 2>was placed in you. You owed fidelity and obedience. Their

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<v Speaker 2>lives and property were in some measure placed within your power.

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<v Speaker 2>You selected a time best calculated to affect your purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>You were offended with one of them for having reprimanded you,

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<v Speaker 2>and for this cause determined on revenge. The remainder of

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<v Speaker 2>the family had never injured you or given you provocation,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet you intended to involve all in one common destruction.

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<v Speaker 2>You appear to be young. I understand you are quite

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<v Speaker 2>intelligent and have had the benefit of instruction. Yet it

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<v Speaker 2>is necessary that you be cut off from society by

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<v Speaker 2>an ignominious death. May God have mercy on your soul.

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<v Speaker 1>And with that, we're going to take a break here

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<v Speaker 1>for a word from our sponsors, and when we're back,

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<v Speaker 1>we will hear about the night of the fire in

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<v Speaker 1>Rose's own words.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Criminalia. Rose's version of events included a

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<v Speaker 2>few surprising details, so let's talk about them.

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<v Speaker 1>While she waited for her execution date, Rose was incarcerated

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<v Speaker 1>briefly at Bridewell Prison, on the site now occupied by

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<v Speaker 1>City Hall Park in Manhattan. There, Rose dictated her side

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<v Speaker 1>of the story to the Reverend John Stanford, the chaplain

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<v Speaker 1>who counseled her in the world weeks before her death.

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<v Speaker 1>In turn, Stanford published what was considered her authentic story

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<v Speaker 1>in Rosa's own words. She described her involvement as such quote,

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<v Speaker 1>when missus Morris I had frequent disputes and was determined

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<v Speaker 1>to be revenged on her On Monday, the fourth of

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<v Speaker 1>March a year ago, she came down in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>and we had some high words together. She then asked

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<v Speaker 1>me why I did not clean up the kitchen and

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<v Speaker 1>the wooden things. I told her it was impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>do so and get dinner in time. But all these

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<v Speaker 1>I cleared up against night. I went to bed about

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<v Speaker 1>half past ten. There was not any fire in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>It had all went out. Mister Morris was the last

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<v Speaker 1>person that was up in the house. At one o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, he went down into the kitchen and

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<v Speaker 1>everything was right. He went upstairs again and did not

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<v Speaker 1>go to bed till two o'clock. Shortly after this, the

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<v Speaker 1>alarm of fire was made in the house. They went

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<v Speaker 1>down and found the staircase on fire, and two pails,

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<v Speaker 1>a washing machine, and the broom all on fire placed

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<v Speaker 1>on the third step from the kitchen floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Rose continued, quote, A great many persons came in and

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<v Speaker 2>among the others, the two men who had set the

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<v Speaker 2>place on fire. Like us, you probably just thought what

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<v Speaker 2>two men. Rose continues quote About three weeks before the fire,

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<v Speaker 2>two white men followed me to the pump. It was

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<v Speaker 2>very dark. They asked me many questions about Missus Morris,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did not choose to answer them. They advised

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<v Speaker 2>me to burn the house, and I refused. The men

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<v Speaker 2>said if I told their conversation, they would take my life.

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<v Speaker 2>The day before the fire, they passed the window several times,

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<v Speaker 2>but did not speak to me. After that night, the

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<v Speaker 2>two men asked mister Morris if he knew the girl

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<v Speaker 2>who lived with him. He said, yes, she has lived

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<v Speaker 2>with me a great while. They then turned about and

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<v Speaker 2>went off. Next day morning, I was accused of having

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<v Speaker 2>set fire to the house, to which I said I

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<v Speaker 2>had not, but I did not say who did it

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<v Speaker 2>or who did not do it. Missus Morris inquired after

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<v Speaker 2>a fortune teller, and she told Missus Morris that it

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<v Speaker 2>was I that did it, and none but me. She

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<v Speaker 2>sent a watchman for me. Watchmen provided law enforcement and

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<v Speaker 2>public safety in the city at that time, and this

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<v Speaker 2>would have been Rose's arrest. She told much of the

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<v Speaker 2>same story to authorities in the courtroom and to those

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<v Speaker 2>who visited her in Bridewell.

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<v Speaker 1>Rose also stated that the two mysterious men had again

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<v Speaker 1>contacted her, this time while she was in prison, claiming, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>a letter was sent to me in a loaf of

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<v Speaker 1>bread which told me that they had done it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was something like this, we are going away and we

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<v Speaker 1>shall come back again. You are in no danger. You

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<v Speaker 1>will be cleared. We have consumed the house pretty near down.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not tell what we have said to you. Not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to read some of the poor writing, I

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<v Speaker 1>requested it to be read to me. It was, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I burnt it. So it's actually true. The Morris

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<v Speaker 1>family home was consumed by fire after Rose had been jailed,

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<v Speaker 1>but the timeline is a little bit hard to nail down.

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<v Speaker 1>Some reports suggested that two unknown men should be investigated

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<v Speaker 1>because the second act of arson on the home occurred

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<v Speaker 1>shortly after the prime suspect arrived at Bridewell and was

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<v Speaker 1>awaiting her execution. Others questioned Rose, reporting that the timeline

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<v Speaker 1>did not line up and her story of the two

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<v Speaker 1>men just couldn't be true. Some local papers, including the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Evening Post, reported that the second case of

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<v Speaker 1>arson must have been the two men from Rose's testimony,

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<v Speaker 1>the men that she said she met at the pump,

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<v Speaker 1>and though the governor delayed her sentence to give her

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<v Speaker 1>time to name those men, Rose still refused. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>in the historical records suggesting that two men were ever

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<v Speaker 1>brought to trial or even questioned about the fire that

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed the Morris home.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about an interesting detail in this story. When

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<v Speaker 2>an enslaved or indentured person committed a minor offense in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States during the time when the institution of

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<v Speaker 2>slavery was legal, punishment was typically handled informally by those

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<v Speaker 2>who enslaved them. But arson was not a minor offense

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<v Speaker 2>in the state of New York. Many tend to think

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<v Speaker 2>of southern plantations during the American institution of slavery, but

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<v Speaker 2>New Yorkers too were enslavers. This matters in the story

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<v Speaker 2>of Rose Butler because she was a black woman and

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<v Speaker 2>she was not a free woman. In sixteen twenty six,

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<v Speaker 2>the Dutch West India Company trafficked enslaved Africans to New Amsterdam,

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<v Speaker 2>the Dutch settlement that would become New York City by

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen sixty. It was a critical port, and between sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one and seventeen seventy five, more than seven thousand

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<v Speaker 2>enslaved Africans disembarked there. They cleared and cut the road

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<v Speaker 2>that is now Broadway, They laid the infrastructure that expanded

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<v Speaker 2>the city uptown. They grew crops in Brooklyn that went

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<v Speaker 2>on to feed their enslavers, and they were also domestic workers.

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<v Speaker 2>In seventeen o three, forty two percent of New York's

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<v Speaker 2>households had enslaved labor, which was more than Philadelphia and

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<v Speaker 2>Boston combined. In fact, only Charleston, South Carolina, had higher numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the first federal census of seventeen ninety six

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the population of Westchester County that's where Rose

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<v Speaker 2>was born, was enslaved, and fourteen percent of families there

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<v Speaker 2>enslaved at least one person. A little farther north, the

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<v Speaker 2>city of Albany had a population of about thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred people, of which five hundred and seventy two were

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<v Speaker 2>enslaved and twenty six were quote three persons of color,

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<v Speaker 2>says Tony Alpalka, the official historian of the city of Albany.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote this wasn't a plantation economy, but urban slaves wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>move around. Most were house servants. Jumped to eighteen thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>after slavery was illegal in the state, the census still

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<v Speaker 2>counted seventy five enslaved persons in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Among those enslaved in the United States, arson, according to

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<v Speaker 1>many historians, was often predetermined and coordinated. Sometimes it was

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<v Speaker 1>a step toward a larger scale revolt, but sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>was an individual and independent act. An enslaved woman named

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<v Speaker 1>Maria was the first person executed for arson in the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Massachusetts. I was all the way back in

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen eighty one after a fire she intentionally set killed

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<v Speaker 1>a child in a house next door to her enslaver's home.

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<v Speaker 1>In colonial times, the punishment for an enslaved person caught

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<v Speaker 1>committing the crime of arson was almost always execution. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>historians describe it as having been used as a tool

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<v Speaker 1>of rebellion. White enslavers feared the consequences of arson attacks

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<v Speaker 1>by United enslaved populations, both in the southern and the

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<v Speaker 1>Northern States.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a break for a word from

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors. When we return, we'll talk about New York's

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<v Speaker 2>Act for the Gradual Abolition of Slavery, What it meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be enslaved versus inventured, and how Rose fell through

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<v Speaker 2>the cracks.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk more about the Act

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<v Speaker 1>for the Gradual Abolition of Slavery and of course Rose's

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<v Speaker 1>day of execution.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a time of shifting ideologies on race and status,

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<v Speaker 2>not only in New York but in America. Revolts had

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<v Speaker 2>featured prominently in the news in the seventeen nineties and

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<v Speaker 2>featured stories of arson committed by those enslaved on plantations

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<v Speaker 2>as well as those living in cities. Arson was historically

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<v Speaker 2>associated with uprisings in New York, and between sixteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>seven and seventeen forty one, plots to commit the crime

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<v Speaker 2>were uncovered on average every two and a half years.

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<v Speaker 2>Jump ahead to the eighteen hundreds, for example, we find

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<v Speaker 2>a letter from a plantation mistress to her husband describing

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<v Speaker 2>an alleged massive conspiracy among local enslaved persons. She wrote

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<v Speaker 2>that she worried they would arm themselves and quote, set

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<v Speaker 2>fire to the houses and murder the people as they

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<v Speaker 2>rushed out. According to Karema Lewis, who teaches history, at

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<v Speaker 2>Massasot Community College, Quincy College, and Emerson College, all in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>The act of arson among enslaved people was a way

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<v Speaker 2>for them to oppose their enslavers and the unjust laws

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<v Speaker 2>and abuses that, as she explains, quote controlled their every movement.

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<v Speaker 1>The context surrounding Rose's crime and death sentence highlight its

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<v Speaker 1>anxieties rampant in the white community in nineteenth century New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Her story also gives us a peek into slavery in

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<v Speaker 1>the state at that time. So here's what was going

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<v Speaker 1>on legally. In seventeen ninety nine, the year that Rose

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<v Speaker 1>was born, the State of New York passed a law

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<v Speaker 1>called the Act for the Gradual Abolition of Slavery. And

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<v Speaker 1>this Act allowed the state to end its institution of slavery,

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<v Speaker 1>but it allowed them to do so very slowly. It

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<v Speaker 1>gave freedom to future generations who would have otherwise been

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<v Speaker 1>born into the institution. Historically, in America, enslavement was reinforced

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<v Speaker 1>as a hereditary status, meaning if your mother was enslaved,

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<v Speaker 1>so were you. The Act declared children born to enslaved

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<v Speaker 1>mothers after July fourth, seventeen ninety nine, to be free.

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<v Speaker 1>Black persons there was a caveat in this act. Though

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<v Speaker 1>Rose may have been born technically free in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of New York, but while freedom was promised to children

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<v Speaker 1>like her, that freedom didn't actually come until much much

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<v Speaker 1>later in adulthood. No one was freed immediately. These children

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<v Speaker 1>were expected to be indentured servants to work unpaid for

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<v Speaker 1>their mother's enslaver until the age of twenty five for

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<v Speaker 1>women or twenty eight for men. Unlike people who were enslaved,

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<v Speaker 1>indentured servants, according to the law, could not be sold.

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<v Speaker 1>On March thirty first, eighteen seventeen, the state legislature officially

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<v Speaker 1>set July fourth, eighteen twenty seven as the date of

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<v Speaker 1>final emancipation. In her position, Rose would have been denied

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<v Speaker 1>any civil rights, but she would have been subject to

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<v Speaker 1>criminal law and its harsh punishments, like the death penalty

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<v Speaker 1>for committing arson.

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<v Speaker 2>Born to an enslaved woman and because of her post

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<v Speaker 2>July seventeen ninety nine birth date, Rose was legally required

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<v Speaker 2>to serve an indenture for twenty five years with a

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<v Speaker 2>man named Colonel Strang and his family, but in eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>oh nine, the colonel sold her indenture to a man

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<v Speaker 2>named Abraham Child of New York City. A few years later,

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<v Speaker 2>Child then sold her indenture to a man named William L. Morris, Esquire,

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<v Speaker 2>also of New York City. And yes, we did just

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<v Speaker 2>say that those who were indentured could not be sold.

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<v Speaker 2>There are more problems here than we can even count.

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<v Speaker 2>But according to the law, Rose should have technically been

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<v Speaker 2>living out twenty five years of indentured servitude with Colonel Strang,

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<v Speaker 2>and under the law it would have been illegal for

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<v Speaker 2>her to have been sold to Abraham Child or then

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<v Speaker 2>to William Morris. But as we can all see, that

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<v Speaker 2>is not what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>What we know about Rose's time with these households come

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<v Speaker 1>straight from her own narrative. Rose was known to chat

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<v Speaker 1>with the women assigned to care for her in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>and she did talk a lot regarding her domestic work

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<v Speaker 1>in both the Child and the Morris households. According to

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<v Speaker 1>Leslie Harris, author of the book In the Shadow of

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<v Speaker 1>Slavery African Americans in New York City sixteen twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>to eighteen sixty three, Rose stated of Abraham Child, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the constant practice of stealing in giving

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<v Speaker 1>the articles to a black woman in the neighborhood who

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<v Speaker 1>sold them for me. From mister Child, she claimed that

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<v Speaker 1>she had stolen silk from his store, as well as cash, clothing,

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<v Speaker 1>and other items from his home. She said that she

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<v Speaker 1>felt quote emboldened because she never got caught. She also

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<v Speaker 1>confessed to having stolen cash and items from the Morris

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<v Speaker 1>family and quote Pilford, whatever she could lay her hands on,

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<v Speaker 1>including one theft of three hundred dollars worth of silver.

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<v Speaker 1>She shared her spoils with lower class people, both black

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<v Speaker 1>and white, and she also used some of it to

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<v Speaker 1>have fun with her friends, stated Rose, on the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>of July, I went with some girls on board the

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<v Speaker 1>steamboat on a party of pleasure and paid the charges,

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen dollars of it I spent on a frolic.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in this manner I squandered away the money

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<v Speaker 1>I had stolen in frolicking and rioting in the dance houses.

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<v Speaker 1>Rose claimed no one she shared that money with knew

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<v Speaker 1>where she had gotten it from.

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<v Speaker 2>On June second, eighteen nineteen, closing in on her execution,

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<v Speaker 2>Rose talked not about theft, but about arson and made

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<v Speaker 2>the following confession to the Reverend Stanford. Quote the statement

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<v Speaker 2>I made in the police office was true. I did

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<v Speaker 2>set the house on fire myself, but I was advised

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<v Speaker 2>to do it by two men. They gave me the

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<v Speaker 2>matches and advised me when and how to set the

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<v Speaker 2>house on fire. The evening previous to the fire, to

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<v Speaker 2>string to the outside of the front kitchen door to

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<v Speaker 2>prevent the family escaping the flames in that way, and

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<v Speaker 2>also cut the door a little with an old knife

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<v Speaker 2>that the family might think some person had broken in

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<v Speaker 2>and not suspect anyone in the house. Quaker and anti

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<v Speaker 2>death penalty activist Dorothy Ripley visited Rose several times, including

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<v Speaker 2>the evening before her execution. She reported Rose was quote

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<v Speaker 2>sorrowful and repentant and begged for God's forgiveness.

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Evening Post reported that with the approaching

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<v Speaker 1>execution quote, we hear that threatening letters of the rising

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<v Speaker 1>of black people have lately been sent to the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>if the execution should be carried into effect, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>little evidence indicating there were actually any letters of protest

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<v Speaker 1>or threat Another local paper reported the opposite that quote,

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<v Speaker 1>black people of this city, being convinced of the enormity

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<v Speaker 1>of the crime, are generally reconciled to the fate of

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<v Speaker 1>Rose Butler, that's quite a wide spread of possibilities, and

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<v Speaker 1>the truth of the way that New Yorkers felt probably

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<v Speaker 1>sits somewhere between those two accounts. Four unnamed black ministers,

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<v Speaker 1>all of whom were free men, were vocal about their

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<v Speaker 1>concerns regarding how Rose's actions might affect the emancipation era

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<v Speaker 1>and the ongoing case for black equality.

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<v Speaker 2>On July ninth, eighteen nineteen, the day of her execution,

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<v Speaker 2>Rose was brought to the yard and the chaplain addressed

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd. The novelty of a woman being publicly executed

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<v Speaker 2>made for an event, and it drew upwards of ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand spectators. Rose is described as having been composed during

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<v Speaker 2>the procession to the gallows, and that it appeared she

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<v Speaker 2>had reconciled to her fate. When asked by an onsite

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<v Speaker 2>physician how she felt, Rose replied, quote, my head feels wild.

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<v Speaker 2>She was given water and part of an orange. We

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<v Speaker 2>do not know her final words, but we do know

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<v Speaker 2>she was assisted by two deputy sheriffs to the scaffold.

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<v Speaker 2>The gallows stood roughly where the arch stands in Washington

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<v Speaker 2>Square Park today. Prayers were offered by those in the

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<v Speaker 2>crowd and hymns were sung. According to a first hand

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<v Speaker 2>account from newspaper publisher and politician Thurler Weed, not only

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<v Speaker 2>did thousands of people show up for the hanging that day,

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<v Speaker 2>the vibe of the crowd was such that a racist

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<v Speaker 2>poem was in heavy circulation, both shouted and chalked onto buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>Rose was buried where she was executed, in Potter's Field.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen twenty seven, Washington Square opened as a public

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<v Speaker 1>park on that same location, one of New York's most

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<v Speaker 1>popular parks. Today. We know that below its ten acres

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<v Speaker 1>are an estimated twenty thousand corpses. Most were never disinterred

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<v Speaker 1>and remain on site. And when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>crime of arson in New York State today, it carries

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<v Speaker 1>different penalties according to the level of severity. Punishment ranges

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<v Speaker 1>from a misdemeanor to a Class A one felony charge,

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<v Speaker 1>which carries a minimum sentence of fifteen to twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years up to life. It's time for lighter fluid and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about a few things while prepping this. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>some of this is going to be exactly as predictable

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<v Speaker 1>as you think it is, but I promise it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very delicious drink. I kept thinking about, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that always catches in my heart when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about people in someone like Rose's position, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that she was clearly very smart, She had a zest

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<v Speaker 1>for life, and had her circumstances been different, who knows

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<v Speaker 1>what she could have.

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<v Speaker 2>Become, Who knows what her story could have been.

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<v Speaker 1>She had so much potential that she never even got

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<v Speaker 1>to explore. So I wanted to focus on that July

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<v Speaker 1>fourth when she went out with her friends. I love

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<v Speaker 1>this and think about what she might like and also

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<v Speaker 1>something that reckons to her namesake. So this is a

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<v Speaker 1>drink that I'm calling Roses Frolic. It also references that

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<v Speaker 1>last meal that she had before the gallows. So it

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<v Speaker 1>starts with an ounce and a half of orange juice,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're gonna add a half ounce, of course

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<v Speaker 1>of rose syrup, my favorite. But then you will also

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<v Speaker 1>add a half ounce of Saint Germain and an ounce

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<v Speaker 1>of a really clean vodka with no appreciable taste. Shake

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<v Speaker 1>that with ice. You're going to strain it into a

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<v Speaker 1>glass with fresh ice, and then you're going to top

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<v Speaker 1>it with Apricot sparkling water. If you can get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that sounds delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so lovely, and it's the kind of drink that

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<v Speaker 1>has sort of a feminine feel because there is that

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<v Speaker 1>floral node in those light fruit notes. The OJ doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>become overpowering, which I don't like a lot of fruit

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<v Speaker 1>juice in a drink because it can be really heavy

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<v Speaker 1>and sickly sweet. I didn't want something that was like

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<v Speaker 1>heavy and felt very sugary. It feels very light, delicious, delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can't get apricot sparkling water, you could get

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<v Speaker 1>another fruit that you think is delightful. Most of them

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<v Speaker 1>are going to work. If you can get something with

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<v Speaker 1>a pear note, that would be amazing. I almost want

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<v Speaker 1>to try it with one of the brands that I

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<v Speaker 1>drink has a cherry blossom flavor right now, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that would be amazing. Yeah, don't sleep on flavored

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<v Speaker 1>sparkling water. The mocktail for this is really easy. All

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to do is leave out the vodka. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>just have more sparkling water after you do your shake,

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<v Speaker 1>and in lieu of Saint Germain, you're just gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>an elderflower syrup. That's it, and Honestly, that drink is

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<v Speaker 1>also so delicious. This might this is another one that

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<v Speaker 1>I can already tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this going to be a contender for you at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big one for sure. At this point, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't want to talk about it before I actually.

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<v Speaker 1>But you never know. Left on the board because.

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<v Speaker 2>True often I do last minute.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know. But that is Rose's frolic, which I

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<v Speaker 1>hope anyone who tries it enjoys as much as I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that that's what you picked from her story

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<v Speaker 2>because as she is talking about that fun that she had,

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<v Speaker 2>that frolic, that rioting, that being on the steamboat, you

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<v Speaker 2>could tell she was a teenager. She was having a

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<v Speaker 2>good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, she was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And it's the only time that we were able

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about her having a good time as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, in a very brief way. I wish she'd had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more of that nineteen. So hopefully we raise

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<v Speaker 1>this glass to Rose and think of if you believe

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<v Speaker 1>in multiple lives, I hope that she came back and

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<v Speaker 1>had everything a human could want. We will be right

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<v Speaker 1>back next week with another drink and another story, and

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