Speaker 1: What's that bad? It's spooky? Hey jooky.
Speaker 2: I'm really sure it's sad. It's coming to this way.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Hey, ghost.
Speaker 2: I nandas pe. Hey boo oh, it's me Roz. Welcome
Speaker 2: to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk
Speaker 2: to people that I like about the para Normal. This
Speaker 2: is one of those episodes where I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 2: don't let me talk your ear off. I'm going to
Speaker 2: make it brief up here at the top because we
Speaker 2: got a lot of show coming at you. I got
Speaker 2: to talk to my girlfriend, Laguna Blue, who is just
Speaker 2: the most incredible old drag performer, one of the best
Speaker 2: singers out there, like truly, such an incredible singer, such
Speaker 2: an incredible performer. She's funny, she's gorgeous. I hate her.
Speaker 2: She's based in New York City, but she travels and
Speaker 2: she has a new album. She'll tell you about that.
Speaker 2: So look her up, check her out, go see her live.
Speaker 2: You will not regret it. So here's my conversation about
Speaker 2: the Paranormal with Laguna Blue and with the show Oh
Speaker 2: my God. I am joined by Larna de la Si
Speaker 2: renas Laguna Blue.
Speaker 1: Hi, I laa thank you for having me. I love you.
Speaker 1: I love you too. Ah.
Speaker 3: The universe brought us together.
Speaker 1: I love it well.
Speaker 2: You and I have done some cruises together. We have
Speaker 2: we've entertained the homosexual community around the world. And what
Speaker 2: I was thinking, there was a night where you and
Speaker 2: I were chatting and you, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: even remember this, but you believe you saw a UFO
Speaker 2: I did. We were in I think it was Mexico, yes,
Speaker 2: and we were sitting outside and then you were like,
Speaker 2: what is that? And then you like got up and
Speaker 2: you were like staring off.
Speaker 1: And yes, it was a light in the sky. We
Speaker 1: were sitting like on a Yeah, I don't know. We
Speaker 1: were on a deck, a deck, thank you. Yes, not
Speaker 1: a dick, but a deck.
Speaker 2: We were on a deck.
Speaker 1: And not to be confused with the Dick deck, but yes,
Speaker 1: we were on a deck and you we were conversing,
Speaker 1: spilling mad tea to each other about certain things. You
Speaker 1: literally were like I remember this. You were like, so
Speaker 1: who do you hate? Tell me everyone you hate. I
Speaker 1: want to know all the gossip. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, so of course, I, you know, brought
Speaker 1: out the burn book and started telling you and in
Speaker 1: the middle of it, I'm looking on the sky and
Speaker 1: this little little flash, this little light, this little like
Speaker 1: it like just flew across the sky. It was bright,
Speaker 1: and it was like yeah, and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, okay, maybe shooting star, but it was so bright.
Speaker 1: I got up right and I immediately was like, was
Speaker 1: that a UFO? Yes?
Speaker 2: You got up and you were like and I was like,
Speaker 2: I want to see it, right, I could talk about
Speaker 2: it on the podcast, but it was gone.
Speaker 1: Right And then we came back to the conversation and
Speaker 1: did it not pass again? And I was like, you
Speaker 1: had to have seen that, and you were like, no, no,
Speaker 1: not at all.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what, I never saw it.
Speaker 1: I think I saw it three times, I think like
Speaker 1: twice back to back in once more and you never
Speaker 1: saw it. And so I felt a little crazy. But
Speaker 1: Alien's definitely exists.
Speaker 2: You know, they w that was a Mexican UFO.
Speaker 1: Absolutely totally speak of. Which have you seen a eight
Speaker 1: body problem or not?
Speaker 3: Eight body?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: Three three body problem?
Speaker 2: Three body problem.
Speaker 1: It's a sci fi show on Netflix about oh and
Speaker 1: it's ooky, spooky but also not but also crazy and
Speaker 1: also it's like a different angle that I've never seen
Speaker 1: with an alien. I won't give the I won't give
Speaker 1: the what happens away, but it's a different angle that
Speaker 1: I've never seen on aliens. So it's interesting to see
Speaker 1: how communities react to alien invasion.
Speaker 2: I am not scared of aliens one bit. Why I
Speaker 2: say take me, Why because I want to go up there.
Speaker 2: I think that they will find me very unique and interesting.
Speaker 2: I have a feeling that I will go up there
Speaker 2: and I will be the only ghost hunting, transgender comedian
Speaker 2: in the entire galaxy, and they will be obsessed with me.
Speaker 2: I'll be very famous. I think I'll get all the
Speaker 2: respect yeah never got on this planet.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'll be.
Speaker 2: The most famous trans person on the entire planet.
Speaker 1: I guess you're right.
Speaker 2: Watch I go up there and Laverne Cox also gets
Speaker 2: taken up there, and I'm like, damn it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking. I was like, can you imagine
Speaker 1: they zoom me up and I'm the only mermaid pop star?
Speaker 3: But I don't know, it's the universe.
Speaker 1: I bet watch them just be mermaids up there already,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, half fish already.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I get up there and they're like, ah.
Speaker 2: My actual real life nightmare happened that exact same night.
Speaker 2: I think it was that same night. You and I
Speaker 2: were sitting outside talking. You start talking shit about people.
Speaker 1: You know that only because you asked not listen. Let
Speaker 1: me let me just say this. Someone went this very clear,
Speaker 1: I want to lean into the microphone. You asked, inherently,
Speaker 1: inherently lying in the right word, incessantly. You begged me
Speaker 1: for this tea bitch. You literally were like, come on,
Speaker 1: I want to know.
Speaker 2: We were on a boat for a week. I needed
Speaker 2: some guff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so you.
Speaker 2: Start naming names and then this guy comes out and
Speaker 2: sits by us. Yes, he comes out, and he sits
Speaker 2: by us and starts smoking, and he's like, oh, do
Speaker 2: you mind if I'm like right here, and we're like, no,
Speaker 2: it's fine. Now. I thought you would have maybe toned
Speaker 2: it down a little bit, but instead you continue to
Speaker 2: just name names. And then this guy goes, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry. First of all, I know exactly who you're
Speaker 2: talking about, and I work for I will I'll leave
Speaker 2: out a redact of the name, but a very big
Speaker 2: news media source.
Speaker 1: Truly, I was terrified. I immediately was like, what in
Speaker 1: the all that jazz shit. Is this? Like? Am I
Speaker 1: in Chicago a rappotter? I'm here, Tim of the tea. Oh,
Speaker 1: I actually know what you're talking about, and I'm a
Speaker 1: rapp potter. I was like, what the hell is this
Speaker 1: not on a gay cruise? I was like, isn't there
Speaker 1: like people are literally getting fucked like four floors up
Speaker 1: from here and you're over here.
Speaker 3: It was terrifying a horror story in real life.
Speaker 2: I never saw any articles written about it. So I
Speaker 2: think we're fine.
Speaker 1: I think we're safe.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about ghost kind of supernatural stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes, please, do you believe? Of course I believe. I
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you what what? Like? What what made
Speaker 1: you so fascinated?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Like? What what's got you hooked about horror? Well, because
Speaker 1: I know you asked me a question, but I'm just curious,
Speaker 1: so I want, like, what what has you so fascinated
Speaker 1: with all things uky spooky?
Speaker 2: I think horror and the paranormal. I think they can overlap,
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's always one and the same. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: I think ultimately when it comes to like the paranormal,
Speaker 2: I've realized that I think I'm just I've always been
Speaker 2: very ungrateful my whole life or something where I'm just like,
Speaker 2: come on, there's gotta be more. This is it? This
Speaker 2: is it? Really right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I feel this. I feel the same way.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I feel the same way, but
Speaker 1: on the opposite. So like in my my uki spooky life,
Speaker 1: I grew up in the Evangelical Christian church. You yes, girl,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like come on, come here, brother David, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna sing to the Lord for an hour and
Speaker 1: then we're pastor so and so is going to give
Speaker 1: an hour long sermon, and yes, and then and then
Speaker 1: like my family was very involved and we went all
Speaker 1: the time. But my my, my, my mom and my grandmother,
Speaker 1: they they believed in and participated in spiritual warfare in
Speaker 1: my house. And so I would never by that, well
Speaker 1: at least from what I from what I grew up learning.
Speaker 1: You know, there are two there are multiple dimensions, right,
Speaker 1: So this is and this is what I grew up on.
Speaker 3: You know, I grew up on a very literal, you know, graphic.
Speaker 1: You know sense of what reality was, you know, the
Speaker 1: Christian experience, I'll say. And so yeah, my parents, you know,
Speaker 1: taught us that there were multiple dimensions in that spirits
Speaker 1: and ghosts and demons, and they're all real. And so
Speaker 1: that's why I think why I loved Horror so much
Speaker 1: is because we weren't really allowed to watch it because
Speaker 1: my mom was like that, oh that that is the way.
Speaker 1: That is the way doing by demons in my house.
Speaker 1: They you can't watch that movie, no, you know. But
Speaker 1: it was interesting because she participated in spiritual warfare, which
Speaker 1: means my mom and my grandmother would cast spirits out
Speaker 1: of people and demons out of people. People come and
Speaker 1: be like, I believe I have a spirit that is
Speaker 1: affecting me and torturing me. I believe that I have
Speaker 1: a spirit of rejection, or I have a spirit of
Speaker 1: you know, alcoholism, a spirit of less the spirit whatever.
Speaker 1: They would come, you know, because my parents, like were
Speaker 1: big leaders in the church. Your face right now, you're
Speaker 1: so gacked.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I.
Speaker 2: Didn't know that your mom was an exorcist.
Speaker 1: She wasn't like an exorcist, but she would just like
Speaker 1: pray over people and like that. Because that's the thing
Speaker 1: ask Christians, you have we have the power, our words
Speaker 1: have power. And when you when you're a Christian and
Speaker 1: you have you you know, you have the power of God,
Speaker 1: and wow, this is got I mean, but this is
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my brain has come faster than my mouth.
Speaker 3: But yeah.
Speaker 1: So like because you're a Christian and then you pray,
Speaker 1: you can have you have his power. Anyone can do it.
Speaker 1: Anyone can cast using the name of Jesus Christ. So
Speaker 1: my mom, I remember this one, the one ooky, spooky,
Speaker 1: like the thing.
Speaker 3: That really got me.
Speaker 1: I was like maybe like thirteen or fourteen years old,
Speaker 1: and this was when I was like, wow, this ship
Speaker 1: is definitely real.
Speaker 3: I remember my mom.
Speaker 1: Was like, Okay, we are going to have a lady
Speaker 1: come over and we are going to cast the demon
Speaker 1: out of hers on you YouTube upstairs and watch a
Speaker 1: movie and don't come downstairs until I tell you. And
Speaker 1: I was like okay. And so I don't know. We
Speaker 1: put on like the Ampers New Groove two or something,
Speaker 1: I don't know. So I'm like awful Disney spent off
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, work, I'm like watching Koo's Go
Speaker 1: and Cronk like whatever. And then the lady leaves, my
Speaker 1: mom prays over the house and we go to bed
Speaker 1: like nothing whatever. So then that night. I have a
Speaker 1: dream that I was like I couldn't sleep in my room.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go sleep in the car. Like I
Speaker 1: was like, I have to, I have to go outside
Speaker 1: to the car. So in my dream, I like go
Speaker 1: downstairs and into the room, into the kitchen, out of
Speaker 1: the house and to the car. And I opened the
Speaker 1: car and I'm like, oh wow, there's no pillow and blanket.
Speaker 1: I need a pillow and blanket. So in my dream,
Speaker 1: I get out of the car and I like go
Speaker 1: to the door and I wake up and I'm outside.
Speaker 1: I'm outside in the dark of my house on the
Speaker 1: back door, next to the car. And I was like
Speaker 1: what so And I was fourteen, so I was like
Speaker 1: terrorf eyed, terrified. So I'm just like knocking on the door.
Speaker 1: My parents wake up, the lights come on. Everyone's freaking out.
Speaker 1: I'm just like crying. I'm like I don't know I was,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Then we go upstairs.
Speaker 1: My brother he's three years younger than me, so he's
Speaker 1: like eleven at the time, and we shared a room
Speaker 1: at the time. We like go into my room and
Speaker 1: my brother is like up in bed crying and he
Speaker 1: had like totally wet the bed and both of those
Speaker 1: experiences had like never happened, like he'd never really done
Speaker 1: he'd never done that before, and I had never slept
Speaker 1: walk before and it oo. My mom was gagged and
Speaker 1: spooted and we were all like, oh my God, and
Speaker 1: my mom, I think for the rest of the night,
Speaker 1: like spent the night praying over the house and then
Speaker 1: the next day would they like bless the house and
Speaker 1: all its crazy shit. That was a moment for me
Speaker 1: when I was like, that is not that. It cannot
Speaker 1: be a coincidence. My mom can't be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna cast it. We're gonna cast the demon out,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden we both have these
Speaker 1: like crazy, out of body wild experiences on the same night.
Speaker 1: That was a moment for me of like real, I
Speaker 1: was a very genuine fear just waking up, waking up
Speaker 1: in a different place than you fall asleep is wild.
Speaker 2: That is scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was wooky, spooky, and just beyond that, Like
Speaker 1: my family has always been very spiritual, and they're always
Speaker 1: like being like, oh I had a vision or oh
Speaker 1: I saw your mom or have an aunt that's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, please be safe on this day because
Speaker 1: I just had a vision and I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: so I just definitely think that there is more than
Speaker 1: us in the world.
Speaker 2: I feel like your mom maybe she forgot to open
Speaker 2: the windows or something that day and the demon came
Speaker 2: out of the lady. But then the demon was like,
Speaker 2: damn it, I don't know where. I can't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: I gotta get into these boys.
Speaker 1: Well, the crazy thing is is that, I mean, technically,
Speaker 1: that's what demons want. They don't want to go back
Speaker 1: to hell. This is what I was taught. They don't
Speaker 1: just leave, They stick around. I mean, that's why I
Speaker 1: think I was so genuinely horrified by like paranormal And
Speaker 1: that's why I think it's like one of my favorite
Speaker 1: type of horror that scares me is because the things
Speaker 1: that it's based on is based on like very real
Speaker 1: religious things like, oh, demons stick around and they and
Speaker 1: they latch from people to people and they like I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been taught that since I was like eight.
Speaker 2: That sounds like me in my early twenties. I was
Speaker 2: such a nightmare back when I used to drink and
Speaker 2: stuff and I where I lived with these people. I
Speaker 2: never wanted to go home and I feel like I
Speaker 2: would just latch to person to person and just do
Speaker 2: whatever I could to not ever have to go home.
Speaker 2: And it's like, girl, go home, Oh my god, it's
Speaker 2: time to go home.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. My mom would always say, Niva, oh
Speaker 1: wish they go. Welcome David Evan Ghost. Love to fucking
Speaker 1: do that. They love to do that, They love to
Speaker 1: stick around.
Speaker 2: They really do. It's like move on, girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like let go, Mama, Like I'm over it,
Speaker 1: get out of here. It's been seventy four years, Mama,
Speaker 1: it's never gonna happen.
Speaker 2: It's not happening. Are you still religious in this way?
Speaker 1: No, I'm very spiritual. I'm a very spiritual person. I
Speaker 1: like to believe, I believe, not like to. I believe
Speaker 1: that there is definitely beyond us. There's definitely things we
Speaker 1: can't explain. But I just also think that, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think that organized religion has
Speaker 1: affected my life so negatively that I have a distaste
Speaker 1: for it. But I believe everyone should just be able
Speaker 1: to do their own thing and like believe in love
Speaker 1: who they want and that it should lead with love.
Speaker 1: But me, I'm like, nah, I'm just spiritual. I'm like, woohoo,
Speaker 1: now you know what I mean. I believe in the
Speaker 1: universe and vibes and spirits and messages is signs.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can relate to this, but
Speaker 2: for me, like hearing these kinds of stories, or if
Speaker 2: I watch a horror movie that is like demons and
Speaker 2: Jesus and all of that, I'm like, that's real. It's
Speaker 2: one hundred percent real. Yeah, that's the stuff that gets
Speaker 2: under my skin, SAMs. I think it's so deep in
Speaker 2: me from such a young age that and I don't
Speaker 2: know if it is real or not.
Speaker 3: Maybe it is, but I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Like now as a you know, as an adult, and
Speaker 1: as someone who's grown past that, there are still parts
Speaker 1: of me that are like, wow, but is it? Is
Speaker 1: it real? I don't know. There's a devil'll have to
Speaker 1: get you a little. I don't know. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, because I'm still afraid of the dark.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty two years old and I cannot walk through
Speaker 1: my house in the dark. Yeah, I do that thing
Speaker 1: where you're home alone you have to like run through
Speaker 1: the house and you're like hitting lights and acting like
Speaker 1: something's chasing you, and you running your room and shut
Speaker 1: the door. That is fully me.
Speaker 2: Well, I have spent so much time studying this stuff.
Speaker 2: I truly feel like I don't know what I believe,
Speaker 2: and I'm constantly forming different opinions or whatever. But the
Speaker 2: one thing that I feel very convinced about is that
Speaker 2: good overcomes bad like always. I think with living people,
Speaker 2: I think, with the spiritual realm, whatever. And I've talked
Speaker 2: about this many times because for a long time I
Speaker 2: was trying to figure out why is it that you
Speaker 2: can use prayer to get rid of demons, but you
Speaker 2: can also use sage. And I think it's whatever you
Speaker 2: believe that is good and can overcome the bad is
Speaker 2: stronger than whatever the bad is.
Speaker 1: That's what I think, right, I mean, I think that's
Speaker 1: like in general lightness. Yeah, exactly what you mentioned, that
Speaker 1: light always overcomes darkness. I don't know why why this.
Speaker 1: I immediately thought of Harry Potter. I just immediately thought of
Speaker 1: like Voldemort and Harry just going at it and him
Speaker 1: being like and he's still surviving at the idion, I mean, like,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Speaking of horror.
Speaker 1: JK Rowling, Oh God, I can't believe I mentioned that,
Speaker 1: actually now I mentioned that for the comedy of that awful,
Speaker 1: terrible laugh. But that's the worst thing that I could
Speaker 1: bring on that.
Speaker 2: No, it's good, No, it's bad.
Speaker 1: Laguna.
Speaker 2: People like the books and the movies. They don't like her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck her. She's a piece of shit. And she's
Speaker 1: doubling down too. She's like really like not gonna change
Speaker 1: her stance, er even try to grow, like.
Speaker 2: Talk about like what you were saying with demons, like, girl,
Speaker 2: get over it, go back to your castle, girl, truly
Speaker 2: like move on. Do you believe that mermaids are real?
Speaker 1: You know I do? And I think they're octopuses?
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Well, I have two answers. One obviously they're real, Like
Speaker 1: look at me, I'm sitting here talking to you. I
Speaker 1: just wrote an album that's all sing.
Speaker 3: Songy in.
Speaker 2: Plug it.
Speaker 1: Yes, my debut studio album, Underwater Bubble Pop, and literally
Speaker 1: the opening lyrics for the title track is say you
Speaker 1: have a sea horse, ride a mermaid sirs on l
Speaker 1: a that liquid bring.
Speaker 2: We don't know the rights to that song. We can't
Speaker 2: play it.
Speaker 1: Yes you can, you have the artist permission anyway, But yes,
Speaker 1: mermaids definitely exist, I think spiritually. I think there's so
Speaker 1: much siren folklore, like throughout time and in all cultures
Speaker 1: there's there is lore of mermaids or more people or
Speaker 1: fish people, you know, in all lores. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's a coincidence. But also I think octopuses are mermaids.
Speaker 1: They used to think that they were aliens, but now
Speaker 1: I've realized, or this is what I've learned, all animals
Speaker 1: on Earth have like come from like one ancestor, right,
Speaker 1: and octopuses, OCTOPI, I should say, are like one of
Speaker 1: the only sea creatures that have like are from the
Speaker 1: same family tree, and they're like smart, and they can
Speaker 1: build relationships and they feel love, they have emotions, like
Speaker 1: they're very very intelligent sea creatures.
Speaker 2: And they can also like change colors and fit into
Speaker 2: tiny little holes.
Speaker 1: Yes, honey, and they have those yeah, the little suckers.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're fascinating to me. I've always been fascinated
Speaker 1: with mermaids.
Speaker 2: So you think you're fish?
Speaker 1: Oh so fish? Can Can we say that anymore? I do?
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: You could say it. I listen.
Speaker 3: I love to say it because it's part of the brand.
Speaker 1: Baby. Yeah. When I first started doing dry us to
Speaker 1: be like I'm the good of blue and I'm the finest,
Speaker 1: freshest and the fishiest dracuad in New York City. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, but not anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I recently found myself on TikTok. I don't look
Speaker 2: at TikTok a whole lot, but like I opened it
Speaker 2: up and it was some man showing a video of
Speaker 2: like this is a real mermaid got on camera. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and he was very serious about it. And I watched
Speaker 2: it and sure, why not?
Speaker 1: I think I know exactly what video talking about. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, they sell that tail on Amazon, Babe. I
Speaker 1: was like, what, mama, Like this is this is at
Speaker 1: a pool in Disneyland, Babe, Like.
Speaker 2: What you know what I am obsessed with?
Speaker 3: Tell me.
Speaker 2: There's a show on Netflix called myrr People, produced by
Speaker 2: the same people that did the TV show I'm on, Yes,
Speaker 2: and it's really good.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. I thought, I love Mermaids. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: my people.
Speaker 2: There's a part where this girl is doing a birthday
Speaker 2: party in a backyard and her tail breaks uh huh,
Speaker 2: and she has to like figure out how to get
Speaker 2: a new tail sent over before she and everyone's like
Speaker 2: waiting for her, and I'm like, that was my drag
Speaker 2: queen life, like being at some kind of birthday party
Speaker 2: and being in a bathroom or a bedroom or something
Speaker 2: and trying to change it to things and hoping that
Speaker 2: nothing breaks. The zipper breaks.
Speaker 1: There you go. I mean, mermaid is drag. You're putting
Speaker 1: on this other character. And I love that it has
Speaker 1: a word and everything like mermaiding, like it's a thing.
Speaker 2: Here's a question. I've said this before. It always causes controversy,
Speaker 2: and I just want to make it clear what I'm asking.
Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me controversy.
Speaker 2: It's not that I don't think that there's ghosts in
Speaker 2: New York City. I know that there are. It's just
Speaker 2: my guests, many of which are by coastal, spent a
Speaker 2: lot of time in New York. I'm like never hearing
Speaker 2: ghost stories. I mean I do every once in a while,
Speaker 2: but like not enough. Compare it to like La ghost stories.
Speaker 2: What is up with that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would literally was actually thinking the
Speaker 1: same thing. I've never heard of Wouki spooky stuff.
Speaker 2: Really, you don't know anybody that lives in a haunted
Speaker 2: apartment or these clubs you work at or theaters or no.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I've definitely felt bad vibes in
Speaker 1: like spaces for sure.
Speaker 2: In a gay bar, yeah, I mean that side eyes, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a little bit of side eyes sent your way.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. But I think even beyond that, like there are
Speaker 1: a few businesses that are no longer open that just
Speaker 1: had like not great pass like they've had like like
Speaker 1: people just like shady business or like failed businesses or
Speaker 1: like in the same spot. And I think that's definitely
Speaker 1: some some vibes shit going on totally. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I've never really I've made it's because we're also
Speaker 1: fucking tired here in New York, and like I feel
Speaker 1: like once people are done their days in New York,
Speaker 1: they're out, you know, they're like I'm done, like I survived,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. It's also so crowded, Like where
Speaker 1: the fuck way is the ghosts our ghosts riding subways
Speaker 1: and fucking like riding elevators with fucking eighteen hundred people
Speaker 1: in a twenty two floor building. I don't know, there's
Speaker 1: like no room for them, and they're technically invisible, so
Speaker 1: like you know, they're probably just like notice me Horton.
Speaker 2: You are in New York City right at this very minute,
Speaker 2: and you were in your apartment and there's not a
Speaker 2: ton of people around you, but there's no ghosts.
Speaker 1: I love to believe that there's nothing with me in
Speaker 1: my houses, at least that's what I love to believe.
Speaker 2: One of those wig heads behind you just turned.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine they're just like.
Speaker 2: Slowly?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine they don't have eyes, but their eyes
Speaker 1: just like open you And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the screen's like and the screen goes away, and then
Speaker 1: you're like Laguna Laguna local drug weed found dead in
Speaker 1: her board now I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: In a horrible wig head accident. Before we get into
Speaker 2: the next part, do you have any other stories you'd
Speaker 2: like to.
Speaker 1: Share Around the time my mom passed, There were definitely
Speaker 1: lots of like feelings and sensations and presences that we
Speaker 1: all felt. And it was really interesting. It was like
Speaker 1: right before she passed, the room was like freezing. It
Speaker 1: was crazy. It was like we were all there with her.
Speaker 1: My mom passed up cancer in twenty fourteen, and we
Speaker 1: were all there and the room got so cold and
Speaker 1: my mom.
Speaker 3: Was like looking at something. Oh, wow, And when she left.
Speaker 1: It went away. It was but after that it was
Speaker 1: also like it went away, but there was like peace.
Speaker 1: It was like very interesting. It wasn't like obviously was
Speaker 1: heartbreaking obviously and traumatic, but also there was like this
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like a like a breath. What's
Speaker 1: crazy is that, Like my sister is raising her family
Speaker 1: in the house that we grew up in, and so
Speaker 1: after both of my parents left, it was really interesting
Speaker 1: because my sister is very religious and she had someone
Speaker 1: pray over the house and my aunt literally was like,
Speaker 1: there's someone in your room. And Grace was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. She was like, that's so crazy. I hate
Speaker 1: that room.
Speaker 3: And she was like, yep, there's someone in there. There's
Speaker 3: someone in your room.
Speaker 1: And so they like prayed and blessed the house and
Speaker 1: my sister hasn't felt him since. But it was really
Speaker 1: interesting because like all my life, I've experienced things like that,
Speaker 1: like little like just like presences, feelings, And I guess
Speaker 1: because I grew up in such a religious and spiritual house,
Speaker 1: it's not abnormal to me. It seems daily life.
Speaker 2: Now. It is their belief because I've heard from some
Speaker 2: evangelical people that like they believe that there's the Holy
Speaker 2: Spirit and then all those other ones are like bad,
Speaker 2: anything else is better.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is something they believe. They believe that, or
Speaker 1: at least I was raisist too, Like if anything is
Speaker 1: talking to you and saying that it's something, it's not
Speaker 1: that right. The Holy Spirit is like your protector against
Speaker 1: the thousands and millions of spirits that are out there,
Speaker 1: because like there are forces that we can't see that
Speaker 1: are always around us, and there are multiple dimensions and
Speaker 1: multiple you know, ooki spookies. Because there's a big belief
Speaker 1: that like people, we don't come back to like bring messages,
Speaker 1: which I think is I don't. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: true because there have been moments where I have felt
Speaker 1: my mom or I have like gotten a sign, or
Speaker 1: like there'll be times when like her favorite song plays
Speaker 1: on the radio and I was just thinking about her.
Speaker 3: I'll be like ugh, you know, like things like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, apparently, if in the spiritual realm, if anything
Speaker 1: tries to talk to you and says hi, I'm this,
Speaker 1: that's not true. It's a demon trying to.
Speaker 2: Get you, right, yeah, which I don't believe.
Speaker 1: In the thought is like why why would it want
Speaker 1: to do anything to you. The other thought too, is
Speaker 1: that like they want to be in our dimension and
Speaker 1: they can't unless we invite them. Okay, so they lie
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, I'm this That's a typical thing
Speaker 1: you see in horror movies when a demon like the conjuring,
Speaker 1: you know how the conjuring too, And she's like pretending
Speaker 1: to be the old man, but he's actually not, like
Speaker 1: he's pretending to be another spirit. He's like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: just this old thing, but he's actually like you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: So yeah, this shit is real to a lot of people.
Speaker 2: See, I was on a cruise one time. I met
Speaker 2: this beautiful woman and I was like, Wow, what a
Speaker 2: beautiful woman. And then as I got to know her more,
Speaker 2: I realized it was not a woman, it was you.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you.
Speaker 2: So you were saying that your aunt has like visions,
Speaker 2: like premonition kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, super pemanitions.
Speaker 2: What's that all about.
Speaker 1: She married my uncle like in two thousand, So she
Speaker 1: hasn't been in my life as long as the rest
Speaker 1: of my family, but she's been super impactful For as
Speaker 1: long as we've known her. She's always been just a
Speaker 1: little touched and she'll see things and she'll dream things,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the things that she dreams of
Speaker 1: end up being signs and shit. She dreamed about my
Speaker 1: dad passing the night he did. She had a vision
Speaker 1: that my dad and my mom were together, because my
Speaker 1: mom passed in twenty fourteen and my dad was killed
Speaker 1: in a car accident in twenty twenty two. And she
Speaker 1: called my sister and she was like, I just had
Speaker 1: a vision about your dad. She was like, I just
Speaker 1: have to share this with you, Like, I just had
Speaker 1: a dream that your mom and your dad are together,
Speaker 1: and your dad was crying in her lap, and your
Speaker 1: mom was in this beautiful gown and he was like
Speaker 1: crying in her lap, and she said, no, it's okay,
Speaker 1: it's okay. I'm here with you. It's okay. And that night,
Speaker 1: my sister gets a call from the police station that
Speaker 1: my dad had been in an accident. And what's also
Speaker 1: crazy is that that night that it happened, I had
Speaker 1: a dream that me and my siblings were in our
Speaker 1: family house and we were like searching the place. We
Speaker 1: were like tearing the place apart, and there were boxes
Speaker 1: everywhere and we were like where we were looking for
Speaker 1: something and we couldn't find it, and there was this
Speaker 1: really ugly cat. I can don't know why it was
Speaker 1: this hideous fucking cat that was there. Oh, but like
Speaker 1: we were together, just the three of us in our
Speaker 1: house alone looking for something, and we couldn't find it.
Speaker 1: And I woke up to my sister telling me, And
Speaker 1: I've had many experiences of that nature of like within
Speaker 1: my family. A few weeks after my mom passed, that
Speaker 1: same aunt literally was like she let us know. She
Speaker 1: was like, oh, your mom is here right now. She
Speaker 1: was like, she just walked into the bedroom and she
Speaker 1: she's here with us right now. She's like I just
Speaker 1: saw her. WHOA, It's been wild. I also think some
Speaker 1: time too, not to change the subject, but in lieu
Speaker 1: of that, have you ever thought of, like when you
Speaker 1: forget something, like when you're running late and you're like
Speaker 1: you have to run back to your house because you
Speaker 1: forgot your phone or or whatever. Do you ever think
Speaker 1: that that is like somebody keeping you safe or like
Speaker 1: a little intentional or like a little sign for the
Speaker 1: universe totally right? For example, like my AirPods got stolen today,
Speaker 1: like off my head, like totally off my head. I
Speaker 1: was at my door. I was like right before this,
Speaker 1: and I was like opening my door to my to
Speaker 1: my building, and my AirPods just getoo like lifted off
Speaker 1: my head grabbed by the band and I'm like thinking
Speaker 1: it's a friend. Turn around. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: chase this guy. He's like no. He was like these
Speaker 1: are mine, Now, do you have money? I was like no, whatever, stop. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He took them from me, ran from me.
Speaker 3: I chased them. He threatened to hit me.
Speaker 1: And I've already been punched in New York City once,
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna get punched over a pair of headphones.
Speaker 2: So I was like and he was like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, told me to fuck off, and like literally was
Speaker 1: like run alley and I was like, I'm not about
Speaker 1: to chase this dude for airport.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: There was this immediate piece for me, though. I was
Speaker 1: like immediately surrendered. I was like, okay, Universe. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's what I mean being spiritual. I'm like okay. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not going to let this room my day.
Speaker 3: There's nothing i can do about this right now.
Speaker 1: But like you know, things like that where I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of like okay, all right, I guess it's part
Speaker 1: of a bigger plan, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all into that. I'm into synchronicities.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like to read into a lot of things and
Speaker 2: be like, I think that that happens, so that this
Speaker 2: could happen, and like try to connect the dots and
Speaker 2: totally I don't know. I'm into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you some research that I found?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, please, Okay, it's kind of a quick one,
Speaker 1: but I found it interesting and I wanted to share
Speaker 1: it with somebody. So this is a real pultruist case
Speaker 1: and it happened in twenty sixteen in ruther Glenn, South Lanarkshire, Lanarkshire.
Speaker 2: Scotland, Scotland. Okay, you ever performed there?
Speaker 1: No, but one of my.
Speaker 3: Best friends is from there. Rose is from Scotland.
Speaker 1: Rose.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we should figure out if she was in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. If she was there, because they have not.
Speaker 3: Solved the case, maybe she was the ghost.
Speaker 2: They have not figured out exactly what has happened here.
Speaker 1: We'll tell me what happened.
Speaker 2: So most of this research is just from a couple
Speaker 2: of articles that were published at the time of this reporting.
Speaker 2: It as a news story in twenty sixteen on the
Speaker 2: Daily Record, this woman named Catherine Schrenan calls the police
Speaker 2: in a panic because she's got a poulter geist.
Speaker 3: What is a pultergeist?
Speaker 2: Okay, so poultry guyst it means a noisy ghost.
Speaker 1: And that's what that means, literally, noisy ghost.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It usually isn't like seeing apparitions like you know,
Speaker 2: seeing a ghost walking around. It's usually referring to a
Speaker 2: ghost throw and shit, lots of throw and shit, okay,
Speaker 2: lots of noise and drama.
Speaker 3: Yeah, makes his presence very known by the physical.
Speaker 2: Like you like when you walk into a room, you say,
Speaker 2: that's a presence, honey, and very noisy.
Speaker 3: Okay, great, So they find this poulter geist.
Speaker 2: You know, one of the leading theories with poultry guys
Speaker 2: is that it's usually centered around one person's energy. Like
Speaker 2: there it's actually coming off of a living human. A
Speaker 2: lot of times there is a teenager in the house
Speaker 2: when there is a poultry geist, but not always. I
Speaker 2: also think that like a ghost or entity of some
Speaker 2: sort can have poulter Geist attributes. Okay, but anyway, basically,
Speaker 2: this woman, poor Catherine Shrinan, she has got shit flying
Speaker 2: around in her home and it's getting violent. And she
Speaker 2: said it had been going on for two days straight
Speaker 2: in her ground floor home in a subdivided house. So
Speaker 2: it's her and her teen son and their pet chihuahua
Speaker 2: and they are distressed.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how do.
Speaker 2: You feel about chihuahuas. I find them to be polarizing.
Speaker 3: They are very polarizing.
Speaker 1: I like it if it likes me, but rarely to
Speaker 1: chiuaa is like me, because chihuaha is like their owner.
Speaker 1: So that's why they get such a bad brath. I
Speaker 1: feel like, if you have one, everyone's say you meet up,
Speaker 1: and if you don't have one, or your friend has one,
Speaker 1: you're like, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But that's where, especially if I'm like gonna be in
Speaker 2: Scotland or something and there's a Chihuahua, I'm like, come on,
Speaker 2: can't there be like a little bit of like Mexican
Speaker 2: pride here? Like you know what I mean? These little
Speaker 2: Mexican dogs, Like can't we Oh my god, don't we
Speaker 2: see each other? We're somehow we're cousins, I think. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So the police who she's called are like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: is probably some mental health situation. This woman's saying that
Speaker 2: things are getting flown around in her house, like whatever,
Speaker 2: we'll come over. They go over there, and they in
Speaker 2: fact witness clothes flying in the air. The lights are
Speaker 2: going on and off, the lamp shades are upside down,
Speaker 2: the oven door is opening and closing, and the chihuahua
Speaker 2: who was playing in the garden was in a seven
Speaker 2: foot tall hedge. The poultry guys through the chihuahua, not
Speaker 2: the chihuahua.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing where I'm like, how do they
Speaker 1: pick shit up? That must be a fucking hulk in
Speaker 1: polker guys, because I feel like ghosts can't usually touch it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's shit. It's the minic. That's a demon. Baby.
Speaker 2: I wish I had one that I could tame, and
Speaker 2: I could have them, you know, move things for me,
Speaker 2: heavy furniture, you know, just do things for me, run
Speaker 2: errands for me. I don't know if you if you
Speaker 2: have that ability, don't just be throwing it right. I
Speaker 2: can see where it would be very annoying to deal
Speaker 2: with this and dangerous whatever, But I feel like if
Speaker 2: you could just wait it out and train the poultry
Speaker 2: guist right, honestly, you could take over the world.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, if you got that little chihuahua to like you,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can get this fucking spiritual being to
Speaker 1: agree with you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like it's gonna be that hard.
Speaker 2: So these police they're like, I don't know what. They
Speaker 2: didn't have this in the police academy. Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: know what I'm supposed to do when the oven doors
Speaker 2: are opening and closing on their own. So they call
Speaker 2: their superiors and they're like, what this is like real,
Speaker 2: this lady's really got a poultry. Guys throwing chihuahuas and shit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So the police call a priest work. They're like, I
Speaker 2: guess we'll have the Catholic church deal with this. I
Speaker 2: don't know work. And this woman and her son and
Speaker 2: I believe the chihuahua are all Catholics. And the priest
Speaker 2: comes over and blesses the house.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: The cops are like, uh, I guess you guys should leave,
Speaker 2: like I don't know know. They move out and they
Speaker 2: go to a relative's house nearby. Nobody was hurt. This
Speaker 2: whole thing was just two days. Well, I think it
Speaker 2: was a couple because it also said that the police
Speaker 2: came for two days as well, so maybe it was
Speaker 2: four days or so. And Catherine later told the press
Speaker 2: that it has been very stressful and that teenagers keep
Speaker 2: going by her house singing the Ghostbusters theme song.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, no way.
Speaker 2: And neighbors were interviewed and they said they've never seen
Speaker 2: a ghost and one neighbors said that they were actually
Speaker 2: enjoying people honking and singing the Ghostbuster song. And this
Speaker 2: neighbor the quote is bit of excitement for a change.
Speaker 2: So that's pretty much the full story. It was just
Speaker 2: a quick, little quickie Poulter geist in and out, in
Speaker 2: and out. Nobody was hurt, the chihuahua was fine.
Speaker 3: But two night stand, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was like one of those hookups. It just lasts
Speaker 2: a couple of days sometimes and then it's over.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That is fascinating.
Speaker 2: So does your mind go to demon?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean again, I just feel like, why would
Speaker 1: it make its present so known, you know, unless it's
Speaker 1: some like crazy scientific explanation. You know, maybe like she's
Speaker 1: sitting on a magnetic vortex. That's the thing too, like
Speaker 1: gravitational and magnetic and all like right, right, that sounds
Speaker 1: like a demon to me, I'm sounds like a demon,
Speaker 1: like you uproot me out of my house and making
Speaker 1: noise for four days. Absolutely not. I just had somebody
Speaker 1: stay with me for three days and I was like
Speaker 1: on day two I was like, get the.
Speaker 2: Bro So yeah, totally yeah. I think that if you
Speaker 2: go with the leading theory of the teenager, probably the
Speaker 2: teenager something that the teenager can't control, and it's just
Speaker 2: like hormones and whatever is like causing this. I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's it's more than a coincidence that there's always teenagers
Speaker 2: involved in these things. I agree, And I would be
Speaker 2: so curious to know because it seems like the woman
Speaker 2: and was like, no more press we just want to
Speaker 2: live our lives. This is like we don't want to
Speaker 2: hear the Ghostbusters song one more time.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: It would be so interesting to know if when they
Speaker 2: moved to their relative's house, if it still was happening,
Speaker 2: if it came with them, right.
Speaker 1: I was like when you said that, I was immediately
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well did that did it follow them?
Speaker 1: Did it like show up at the Rotters house too?
Speaker 2: But she was like, no more questions, So who knows.
Speaker 2: That's that's what I would guess happened. I think it
Speaker 2: probably wasn't even anything to do with the house. But anyway, Hey,
Speaker 2: can I show you a haunted eBay doll?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I've been waiting.
Speaker 2: It's time for a segment I call the dolls are living? Okay,
Speaker 2: So what I do? I go to eBay dot com.
Speaker 2: I type in the words haunted doll, and there's thousands
Speaker 2: of them. It's a full industry, and I am only
Speaker 2: contributing to making it more popular. You know, it's up
Speaker 2: for anyone to decide if they think it's real or not. Listen,
Speaker 2: I'm somebody that's not great with money. I have bought
Speaker 2: a lot of dumb shit, so I'm not judging anyone
Speaker 2: that wants to, you know, buy one of these. But
Speaker 2: here's one that's not too expensive compared to some I've seen.
Speaker 2: This one is twenty eight dollars. I would like you
Speaker 2: to meet Martha.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Hello Martha, Oh my god? Why is
Speaker 1: she making that? She looks like she's on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's definitely playing the roles.
Speaker 1: She's Jesus Christ. I wonder if she started out as
Speaker 1: a baby doll, and once the demon entered her she
Speaker 1: went she turned into this. Yeah she got stuck or
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the demon is like breathing so hard
Speaker 1: that it just sucked her face.
Speaker 2: And yeah, a demon will age it. So she is
Speaker 2: an elderly woman doll clearly, and she has on like
Speaker 2: kind of like a whole dress. Does not look comfortable
Speaker 2: at all. Also, for some reason, she has like white
Speaker 2: flakes on her dress, which is very relatable to me
Speaker 2: as a sufferer of dandriff. She did the effort of
Speaker 2: drawing on some eyebrows and a bottom lip and some blush,
Speaker 2: which I think is lovely, and some eyeliner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a little.
Speaker 2: But we can't ignore that she has her mouth open.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks you know those videos on Twitter where
Speaker 1: I've seen people do that with other parts of their bodies.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've been on a few cruises, all right, It's.
Speaker 2: Got a very open kind of a mouth. If you
Speaker 2: want to see what we're talking about, go to ghosted
Speaker 2: by ros on Instagram under the dab dolls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you zoom in just on the mouth,
Speaker 1: the word that comes to mind is rose.
Speaker 2: So yes, it's very rosy. It's a gaping mouth.
Speaker 1: I would say, correct, a gaping, puckered mouth. And also
Speaker 1: it looks like instead of covering her eyebrows, she shaved
Speaker 1: her eyebrows off and she instead has oatmeal underbags under
Speaker 1: her eyes.
Speaker 2: Which is interesting. Yeah, I wonder what's going on underneath
Speaker 2: the eyes, because she does. She's got some Ikea bags.
Speaker 1: Under there and honestly a hard front in this dand age.
Speaker 2: Wow, she does have a hard front. Wig not to
Speaker 2: come for her listen, I'm sorry, but h yeah, here's
Speaker 2: the best part. They come with biographies.
Speaker 1: Please, I'm dying to know where she was made and
Speaker 1: born and bred.
Speaker 2: Okay, it says here. Here we have miss Martha aka
Speaker 2: Messi Martha. The nickname will become quite clear the further
Speaker 2: along you read.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Martha was.
Speaker 2: An amazing woman for the most part, other than being
Speaker 2: a little messy sometimes. She died an elderly lady in
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties. I am not sure where she lived
Speaker 2: or how she died. It's almost as if she's uncomfortable
Speaker 2: speaking on it. I gather she does not like to
Speaker 2: dwell on sad times and prefers to keep the conversation
Speaker 2: light and fun. To say that she was a hoot
Speaker 2: would be an understatement. She was the center of drama,
Speaker 2: starting in her family, workplaces, and even in her friend's lives.
Speaker 2: She loves to gossip and spread rumors. Many people did
Speaker 2: not like her for this reason, which is understandable. But
Speaker 2: aside from loving drama, she also was a very sweet person.
Speaker 2: All the same time, people could not stay mad at
Speaker 2: Martha because she's just so funny. After all, in her mind,
Speaker 2: she was just having fun by stirring the pot, not
Speaker 2: to intentionally hurt anyone. See this is me on the
Speaker 2: deck on the cruise being like, tell me who you hate.
Speaker 1: Literally, I knew this all reminded me of someone I
Speaker 1: just cutting put my finger on it.
Speaker 2: Martha has been known to hide things from me in
Speaker 2: my home, so keep a watchful eye on your belongings.
Speaker 2: She had children and grandchildren. She was a wonderful cook.
Speaker 2: Let's see here, she loves animals. I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: see some more ghosty stuff about her.
Speaker 1: Well, wait, so this this seller knows all of this
Speaker 1: just from having the doll.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they've done some sessions together, got it with
Speaker 2: different communication devices with ghosts, and that's how she's gathered
Speaker 2: some of the backstory. Wow, but it says on the
Speaker 2: night I purchased the doll, my kitchen smelled like someone
Speaker 2: was baking cookies. I immediately did an EVP session. It
Speaker 2: said my name is Martha and that it likes to
Speaker 2: talk shit, is what the ghost says.
Speaker 3: So well, listen, you've got a great career ahead, have you.
Speaker 2: Don't you know what? I would love for her to
Speaker 2: help me write my act. And I don't know I
Speaker 2: actually like her. It's funny because when I first read
Speaker 2: messy Martha, I thought that meant like she causes like
Speaker 2: shit all over your house, But like, no, she's just
Speaker 2: like messy drama.
Speaker 1: Like she's literally, oh my gosh, key matchen just like
Speaker 1: but now there's like a spirit of like slander in
Speaker 1: your home. Sorry, I'm looking at it from like evangelical right.
Speaker 1: My mom would be like, no, now that is a
Speaker 1: spirit of a drama. That is the spirit of lice
Speaker 1: of this is no, No, this is a spirit get us.
Speaker 1: She'd be like, you know what I mean? Can matching
Speaker 1: people coming out your home and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they just like have the urge to just like fucking
Speaker 1: talk match it.
Speaker 2: I live for the drama. I'm fine with.
Speaker 1: The I love it.
Speaker 2: Hey, can I put you some ghost voices?
Speaker 1: Please? I would love It's time for.
Speaker 2: EVP or e TV please. Okay, so EVP Electronic Voice Phenomenal.
Speaker 2: What happens is ghost hunters believe they've captured a ghost
Speaker 2: speaking in a haunted location. They PLoP it up on
Speaker 2: YouTube and I'm going to play two of them for you,
Speaker 2: and I want you to tell me what you hear,
Speaker 2: and I'll give you an ABCD option, one of them
Speaker 2: being what the person that posts it believe the ghost
Speaker 2: is saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, great.
Speaker 2: So this first one is from Okay p r I
Speaker 2: on YouTube, which stands for Oklahoma Paranormal Investigators in Research.
Speaker 1: Ooh, so ficial.
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what this location is, but they
Speaker 2: just it just says turret house, which I don't know.
Speaker 2: I tried to look into and it was hard to find.
Speaker 2: If that is an actual place or if it is
Speaker 2: a house with turrets, I don't know. But either way,
Speaker 2: what is this ghost saying?
Speaker 3: Way again?
Speaker 1: Again?
Speaker 2: Could you hear it?
Speaker 1: I heard I heard help me this is burning, That's
Speaker 1: what I heard.
Speaker 2: Help me, this is burning?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So basically, you know me at my monthly check up.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 2: Crazy? Help me, this is burning.
Speaker 1: I want to hear one more time, though, can I okay? Okay, honestly,
Speaker 1: do you hear that?
Speaker 2: Totally? Well, it's definitely something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, help me, I hear help me for sure?
Speaker 2: Oklahoma paranormal investigators and research did not believe that that
Speaker 2: is what it says. Help me, this is burning. So
Speaker 2: here's ABC D. Which one of these did they believe
Speaker 2: it was? Was it A I hate you?
Speaker 1: Is that okay?
Speaker 2: Is it B? I hate you? You're so good?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 2: Is it C?
Speaker 1: Hey you?
Speaker 2: Is it for good? Or D? Hey you? Are you fergie?
Speaker 2: You know, like when you see a lady and you're like,
Speaker 2: is that that lady looks very fur delicious? Is that fergie? Okay?
Speaker 2: It's one of those let me play it again.
Speaker 3: One more time? Oh wow, I mean it could be
Speaker 3: any of those things.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: How do these people know for sure?
Speaker 2: Nobody does.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna guess I hate you?
Speaker 1: Is that? Okay?
Speaker 2: They think it's hey you? Is it for good? Okay,
Speaker 2: now that we know that, let's listen again, because I
Speaker 2: totally hear that.
Speaker 1: Is it for good?
Speaker 3: I hear it, Hey you, is this for good? I
Speaker 3: wonder if they're asking them like am I stuck here forever?
Speaker 1: Like? Is this for good?
Speaker 2: Totally? Here's one more. It's actually from the same YouTube
Speaker 2: channel and it is at a sanatorium. Doesn't say which one.
Speaker 2: It's just at a sanatorium.
Speaker 3: What is a sanatorium? Is that where they sanitize thing?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, very sanitary. I think it was also
Speaker 2: a word that was used just for like hospital.
Speaker 1: H that makes sense.
Speaker 2: On the TV show I'm on Living for the Dead,
Speaker 2: we went to Waverly Hill Sanatorium and that was for
Speaker 2: people that had tuberculosis. At one point it was a hospital.
Speaker 2: Oh god, okay, what is this ghost saying? Oh it's
Speaker 2: kind of a creepy voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard like Ted, I was like, what okay?
Speaker 1: That one's like witchy. It's like the gollumn Ye yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like a gollum drag Like what very witchy?
Speaker 2: Very my bressure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally, one more time, baby. That is some ell
Speaker 1: ekonoma nomen option matter after med economi shiit bitch. That
Speaker 1: is a spell that is an el economen. That is
Speaker 1: some the wizard and I very wicked.
Speaker 2: Well here's some options. Was it a take me to
Speaker 2: the Boner Cave. Is it be take my breath away?
Speaker 2: Is it c take me to the sleigh or d
Speaker 2: tame me? I'm feeling gay. Okay, it's one of those.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want it to be. Now that
Speaker 1: I know it's a it's a gay ghost, I'm I oh,
Speaker 1: it makes sense. Take me to the Bonner Cave for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna play it now. Okay, you're actually right.
Speaker 1: They believe it's say take me to the Bonner Cave.
Speaker 2: Well, I was not being entirely accurate. It was saying
Speaker 2: take me to the Bonner Cave. Two at Boner with
Speaker 2: two ends to the Bonner Cave. Now, I was googling,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what is the Bonner Cave? Is that
Speaker 2: really a place?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 3: I'm sure I don't know.
Speaker 2: But there is a really famous haunted place city town
Speaker 2: that is constantly in these evp like there's tons of
Speaker 2: ghost hunting that happens there. It's called Virginia City, Nevada.
Speaker 2: It's like an old mining town.
Speaker 1: Wow. And I found in my.
Speaker 2: Research that there is a place there that they refer
Speaker 2: to as the Bonner Shaft. So it says that the
Speaker 2: Boner Shaft was named in the on of mind Superintendent
Speaker 2: Charles S. Bonner. Okay, and this article I found that's
Speaker 2: on h MDB dot org. It talks about the construction
Speaker 2: of the shaft. Consisted of twelve inch timbers that were
Speaker 2: installed and basically there's a sinkhole. I don't know's there's
Speaker 2: some great things.
Speaker 3: To you had me at twelve inch timbers.
Speaker 2: The Bonner Shaft cave in was filled with a plug
Speaker 2: consisting of steel and concrete. It was erected in two
Speaker 2: thousand and nine. Listen, there's some good stuff here. If
Speaker 2: you're ever looking for hm dB dot org, it'll tell
Speaker 2: you all about the Bonner Shaft of Gould and Curry mine.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Anyway, this ghost wanted to go to the Bonner cave
Speaker 2: I love it. Take me to the Bonner d Laguna.
Speaker 2: We're pretty much done here. Oh my gosh.
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Speaker 2: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
Speaker 2: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
Speaker 2: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
Speaker 2: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the
Speaker 2: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by
Speaker 2: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Speaker 2: Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced
Speaker 2: by the Chill Karen Kilgareth, the Spookky Georgia Hard Start,
Speaker 2: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.
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