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Speaker 1: What's that bad? It's spooky? Hey jooky.

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Speaker 2: I'm really sure it's sad. It's coming to this way.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Hey, ghost.

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Speaker 2: I nandas pe. Hey boo oh, it's me Roz. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk

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Speaker 2: to people that I like about the para Normal. This

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Speaker 2: is one of those episodes where I'm like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: don't let me talk your ear off. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: make it brief up here at the top because we

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Speaker 2: got a lot of show coming at you. I got

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Speaker 2: to talk to my girlfriend, Laguna Blue, who is just

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Speaker 2: the most incredible old drag performer, one of the best

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Speaker 2: singers out there, like truly, such an incredible singer, such

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Speaker 2: an incredible performer. She's funny, she's gorgeous. I hate her.

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Speaker 2: She's based in New York City, but she travels and

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Speaker 2: she has a new album. She'll tell you about that.

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Speaker 2: So look her up, check her out, go see her live.

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Speaker 2: You will not regret it. So here's my conversation about

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Speaker 2: the Paranormal with Laguna Blue and with the show Oh

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Speaker 2: my God. I am joined by Larna de la Si

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Speaker 2: renas Laguna Blue.

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Speaker 1: Hi, I laa thank you for having me. I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love you too. Ah.

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Speaker 3: The universe brought us together.

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Speaker 1: I love it well.

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Speaker 2: You and I have done some cruises together. We have

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Speaker 2: we've entertained the homosexual community around the world. And what

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, there was a night where you and

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Speaker 2: I were chatting and you, I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: even remember this, but you believe you saw a UFO

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Speaker 2: I did. We were in I think it was Mexico, yes,

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Speaker 2: and we were sitting outside and then you were like,

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Speaker 2: what is that? And then you like got up and

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Speaker 2: you were like staring off.

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Speaker 1: And yes, it was a light in the sky. We

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Speaker 1: were sitting like on a Yeah, I don't know. We

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Speaker 1: were on a deck, a deck, thank you. Yes, not

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Speaker 1: a dick, but a deck.

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Speaker 2: We were on a deck.

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Speaker 1: And not to be confused with the Dick deck, but yes,

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Speaker 1: we were on a deck and you we were conversing,

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Speaker 1: spilling mad tea to each other about certain things. You

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Speaker 1: literally were like I remember this. You were like, so

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Speaker 1: who do you hate? Tell me everyone you hate. I

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Speaker 1: want to know all the gossip. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, so of course, I, you know, brought

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Speaker 1: this little little flash, this little light, this little like

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Speaker 1: and it was like yeah, and I was like, oh

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Speaker 1: I got up right and I immediately was like, was

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Speaker 1: that a UFO? Yes?

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Speaker 2: You got up and you were like and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I want to see it, right, I could talk about

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Speaker 2: it on the podcast, but it was gone.

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Speaker 1: Right And then we came back to the conversation and

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Speaker 1: did it not pass again? And I was like, you

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Speaker 1: had to have seen that, and you were like, no, no,

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Speaker 2: And I was like, what, I never saw it.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw it three times, I think like

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Speaker 1: twice back to back in once more and you never

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Speaker 1: saw it. And so I felt a little crazy. But

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Speaker 1: Alien's definitely exists.

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Speaker 2: You know, they w that was a Mexican UFO.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely totally speak of. Which have you seen a eight

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Speaker 1: body problem or not?

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Speaker 3: Eight body?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god?

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Speaker 3: Three three body problem?

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Speaker 2: Three body problem.

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Speaker 1: It's a sci fi show on Netflix about oh and

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Speaker 1: it's ooky, spooky but also not but also crazy and

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Speaker 1: also it's like a different angle that I've never seen

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Speaker 1: with an alien. I won't give the I won't give

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Speaker 2: I am not scared of aliens one bit. Why I

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Speaker 2: I think that they will find me very unique and interesting.

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling that I will go up there

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Speaker 2: and I will be the only ghost hunting, transgender comedian

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'll be.

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Speaker 2: The most famous trans person on the entire planet.

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Speaker 1: I guess you're right.

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Speaker 2: Watch I go up there and Laverne Cox also gets

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking. I was like, can you imagine

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, it's the universe.

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Speaker 1: I bet watch them just be mermaids up there already,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, half fish already.

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Speaker 3: And then I get up there and they're like, ah.

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Speaker 2: My actual real life nightmare happened that exact same night.

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Speaker 2: I think it was that same night. You and I

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Speaker 1: You know that only because you asked not listen. Let

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Speaker 1: me let me just say this. Someone went this very clear,

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Speaker 1: I want to lean into the microphone. You asked, inherently,

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Speaker 2: We were on a boat for a week. I needed

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Speaker 1: And so you.

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Speaker 2: Start naming names and then this guy comes out and

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Speaker 2: it's fine. Now. I thought you would have maybe toned

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Speaker 2: so sorry. First of all, I know exactly who you're

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Speaker 2: talking about, and I work for I will I'll leave

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Speaker 2: out a redact of the name, but a very big

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Speaker 1: Truly, I was terrified. I immediately was like, what in

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Speaker 1: the all that jazz shit. Is this? Like? Am I

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Speaker 1: in Chicago a rappotter? I'm here, Tim of the tea. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I actually know what you're talking about, and I'm a

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Speaker 2: I never saw any articles written about it. So I

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Speaker 1: I think we're safe.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about ghost kind of supernatural stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yes, please, do you believe? Of course I believe. I

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Speaker 1: Like? What what's got you hooked about horror? Well, because

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Speaker 2: I think horror and the paranormal. I think they can overlap,

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Speaker 2: I think ultimately when it comes to like the paranormal,

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Speaker 2: come on, there's gotta be more. This is it? This

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I feel this. I feel the same way.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are two there are multiple dimensions, right,

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Speaker 2: Didn't know that your mom was an exorcist.

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Speaker 1: She wasn't like an exorcist, but she would just like

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Speaker 3: I remember my mom.

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Speaker 1: Was like, Okay, we are going to have a lady

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. My mom would always say, Niva, oh

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Speaker 1: But me, I'm like, nah, I'm just spiritual. I'm like, woohoo,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can relate to this, but

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Speaker 2: Well, I have spent so much time studying this stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think, right, I mean, I think that's

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Speaker 1: like in general lightness. Yeah, exactly what you mentioned, that

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Speaker 1: light always overcomes darkness. I don't know why why this.

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Speaker 1: I immediately thought of Harry Potter. I just immediately thought of

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Speaker 1: JK Rowling, Oh God, I can't believe I mentioned that,

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Speaker 2: No, it's good, No, it's bad.

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Speaker 1: Laguna.

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Speaker 2: People like the books and the movies. They don't like her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck her. She's a piece of shit. And she's

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Speaker 2: Talk about like what you were saying with demons, like, girl,

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Speaker 2: get over it, go back to your castle, girl, truly

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Speaker 2: like move on. Do you believe that mermaids are real?

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Speaker 1: You know I do? And I think they're octopuses?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Well, I have two answers. One obviously they're real, Like

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Speaker 1: look at me, I'm sitting here talking to you. I

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Speaker 3: Songy in.

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Speaker 2: Plug it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, my debut studio album, Underwater Bubble Pop, and literally

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Speaker 2: We don't know the rights to that song. We can't

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Speaker 1: Yes you can, you have the artist permission anyway, But yes,

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Speaker 1: They used to think that they were aliens, but now

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Speaker 2: And they can also like change colors and fit into

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Speaker 1: Yes, honey, and they have those yeah, the little suckers.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they're fascinating to me. I've always been fascinated

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Speaker 2: So you think you're fish?

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Speaker 1: Oh so fish? Can Can we say that anymore? I do?

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 1: You could say it. I listen.

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Speaker 3: I love to say it because it's part of the brand.

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Speaker 1: Baby. Yeah. When I first started doing dry us to

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Speaker 1: be like I'm the good of blue and I'm the finest,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I recently found myself on TikTok. I don't look

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Speaker 2: like this is a real mermaid got on camera. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he was very serious about it. And I watched

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Speaker 2: it and sure, why not?

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Speaker 1: was like, what, mama, Like this is this is at

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Speaker 2: What you know what I am obsessed with?

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Speaker 3: Tell me.

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Speaker 2: There's a show on Netflix called myrr People, produced by

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Speaker 2: the same people that did the TV show I'm on, Yes,

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Speaker 2: and it's really good.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. I thought, I love Mermaids. I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 1: my people.

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Speaker 2: There's a part where this girl is doing a birthday

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Speaker 2: waiting for her, and I'm like, that was my drag

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Speaker 2: queen life, like being at some kind of birthday party

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Speaker 1: There you go. I mean, mermaid is drag. You're putting

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Speaker 2: Here's a question. I've said this before. It always causes controversy,

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Speaker 2: and I just want to make it clear what I'm asking.

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00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me controversy.

438
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: It's not that I don't think that there's ghosts in

439
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 2: New York City. I know that there are. It's just

440
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: my guests, many of which are by coastal, spent a

441
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 2: lot of time in New York. I'm like never hearing

442
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: ghost stories. I mean I do every once in a while,

443
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 2: but like not enough. Compare it to like La ghost stories.

444
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: What is up with that?

445
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would literally was actually thinking the

446
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: same thing. I've never heard of Wouki spooky stuff.

447
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 2: Really, you don't know anybody that lives in a haunted

448
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 2: apartment or these clubs you work at or theaters or no.

449
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I've definitely felt bad vibes in

450
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: like spaces for sure.

451
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: In a gay bar, yeah, I mean that side eyes, Yeah,

452
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of side eyes sent your way.

453
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: Absolutely. But I think even beyond that, like there are

454
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: a few businesses that are no longer open that just

455
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: had like not great pass like they've had like like

456
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: people just like shady business or like failed businesses or

457
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: like in the same spot. And I think that's definitely

458
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: some some vibes shit going on totally. But yeah, I

459
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: guess I've never really I've made it's because we're also

460
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: fucking tired here in New York, and like I feel

461
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 1: like once people are done their days in New York,

462
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: they're out, you know, they're like I'm done, like I survived,

463
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. It's also so crowded, Like where

464
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: the fuck way is the ghosts our ghosts riding subways

465
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: and fucking like riding elevators with fucking eighteen hundred people

466
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: in a twenty two floor building. I don't know, there's

467
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: like no room for them, and they're technically invisible, so

468
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: like you know, they're probably just like notice me Horton.

469
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: You are in New York City right at this very minute,

470
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 2: and you were in your apartment and there's not a

471
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: ton of people around you, but there's no ghosts.

472
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: I love to believe that there's nothing with me in

473
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: my houses, at least that's what I love to believe.

474
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: One of those wig heads behind you just turned.

475
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: Can you imagine they're just like.

476
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: Slowly?

477
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: Can you imagine they don't have eyes, but their eyes

478
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: just like open you And then all of a sudden,

479
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: the screen's like and the screen goes away, and then

480
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: you're like Laguna Laguna local drug weed found dead in

481
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: her board now I can't imagine.

482
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: In a horrible wig head accident. Before we get into

483
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 2: the next part, do you have any other stories you'd

484
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: like to.

485
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: Share Around the time my mom passed, There were definitely

486
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: lots of like feelings and sensations and presences that we

487
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: all felt. And it was really interesting. It was like

488
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: right before she passed, the room was like freezing. It

489
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: was crazy. It was like we were all there with her.

490
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: My mom passed up cancer in twenty fourteen, and we

491
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: were all there and the room got so cold and

492
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: my mom.

493
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 3: Was like looking at something. Oh, wow, And when she left.

494
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: It went away. It was but after that it was

495
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: also like it went away, but there was like peace.

496
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: It was like very interesting. It wasn't like obviously was

497
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: heartbreaking obviously and traumatic, but also there was like this

498
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like a like a breath. What's

499
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: crazy is that, Like my sister is raising her family

500
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: in the house that we grew up in, and so

501
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: after both of my parents left, it was really interesting

502
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: because my sister is very religious and she had someone

503
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: pray over the house and my aunt literally was like,

504
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: there's someone in your room. And Grace was like, oh

505
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: my god. She was like, that's so crazy. I hate

506
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: that room.

507
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: And she was like, yep, there's someone in there. There's

508
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: someone in your room.

509
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: And so they like prayed and blessed the house and

510
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: my sister hasn't felt him since. But it was really

511
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: interesting because like all my life, I've experienced things like that,

512
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: like little like just like presences, feelings, And I guess

513
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: because I grew up in such a religious and spiritual house,

514
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: it's not abnormal to me. It seems daily life.

515
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: Now. It is their belief because I've heard from some

516
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: evangelical people that like they believe that there's the Holy

517
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: Spirit and then all those other ones are like bad,

518
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: anything else is better.

519
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: Yes, that is something they believe. They believe that, or

520
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: at least I was raisist too, Like if anything is

521
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: talking to you and saying that it's something, it's not

522
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: that right. The Holy Spirit is like your protector against

523
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: the thousands and millions of spirits that are out there,

524
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: because like there are forces that we can't see that

525
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: are always around us, and there are multiple dimensions and

526
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: multiple you know, ooki spookies. Because there's a big belief

527
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: that like people, we don't come back to like bring messages,

528
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: which I think is I don't. I don't think that's

529
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: true because there have been moments where I have felt

530
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: my mom or I have like gotten a sign, or

531
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: like there'll be times when like her favorite song plays

532
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: on the radio and I was just thinking about her.

533
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: I'll be like ugh, you know, like things like that.

534
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, apparently, if in the spiritual realm, if anything

535
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: tries to talk to you and says hi, I'm this,

536
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: that's not true. It's a demon trying to.

537
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: Get you, right, yeah, which I don't believe.

538
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: In the thought is like why why would it want

539
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: to do anything to you. The other thought too, is

540
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: that like they want to be in our dimension and

541
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: they can't unless we invite them. Okay, so they lie

542
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, I'm this That's a typical thing

543
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: you see in horror movies when a demon like the conjuring,

544
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: you know how the conjuring too, And she's like pretending

545
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: to be the old man, but he's actually not, like

546
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: he's pretending to be another spirit. He's like, oh, I'm

547
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: just this old thing, but he's actually like you know, yeah,

548
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, this shit is real to a lot of people.

549
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: See, I was on a cruise one time. I met

550
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: this beautiful woman and I was like, Wow, what a

551
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: beautiful woman. And then as I got to know her more,

552
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: I realized it was not a woman, it was you.

553
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: Well, thank you.

554
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: So you were saying that your aunt has like visions,

555
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: like premonition kind of thing.

556
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, super pemanitions.

557
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: What's that all about.

558
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: She married my uncle like in two thousand, So she

559
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: hasn't been in my life as long as the rest

560
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: of my family, but she's been super impactful For as

561
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: long as we've known her. She's always been just a

562
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: little touched and she'll see things and she'll dream things,

563
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: and a lot of the things that she dreams of

564
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: end up being signs and shit. She dreamed about my

565
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: dad passing the night he did. She had a vision

566
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: that my dad and my mom were together, because my

567
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: mom passed in twenty fourteen and my dad was killed

568
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: in a car accident in twenty twenty two. And she

569
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: called my sister and she was like, I just had

570
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: a vision about your dad. She was like, I just

571
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: have to share this with you, Like, I just had

572
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: a dream that your mom and your dad are together,

573
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: and your dad was crying in her lap, and your

574
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: mom was in this beautiful gown and he was like

575
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: crying in her lap, and she said, no, it's okay,

576
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: it's okay. I'm here with you. It's okay. And that night,

577
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: my sister gets a call from the police station that

578
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: my dad had been in an accident. And what's also

579
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: crazy is that that night that it happened, I had

580
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: a dream that me and my siblings were in our

581
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: family house and we were like searching the place. We

582
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: were like tearing the place apart, and there were boxes

583
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: everywhere and we were like where we were looking for

584
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: something and we couldn't find it, and there was this

585
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: really ugly cat. I can don't know why it was

586
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: this hideous fucking cat that was there. Oh, but like

587
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: we were together, just the three of us in our

588
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: house alone looking for something, and we couldn't find it.

589
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: And I woke up to my sister telling me, And

590
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: I've had many experiences of that nature of like within

591
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: my family. A few weeks after my mom passed, that

592
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: same aunt literally was like she let us know. She

593
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh, your mom is here right now. She

594
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: was like, she just walked into the bedroom and she

595
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: she's here with us right now. She's like I just

596
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: saw her. WHOA, It's been wild. I also think some

597
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: time too, not to change the subject, but in lieu

598
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: of that, have you ever thought of, like when you

599
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: forget something, like when you're running late and you're like

600
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: you have to run back to your house because you

601
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: forgot your phone or or whatever. Do you ever think

602
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: that that is like somebody keeping you safe or like

603
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: a little intentional or like a little sign for the

604
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: universe totally right? For example, like my AirPods got stolen today,

605
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: like off my head, like totally off my head. I

606
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 1: was at my door. I was like right before this,

607
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: and I was like opening my door to my to

608
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: my building, and my AirPods just getoo like lifted off

609
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: my head grabbed by the band and I'm like thinking

610
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: it's a friend. Turn around. I'm like, oh my god,

611
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: chase this guy. He's like no. He was like these

612
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: are mine, Now, do you have money? I was like no, whatever, stop. Yeah.

613
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: He took them from me, ran from me.

614
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: I chased them. He threatened to hit me.

615
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: And I've already been punched in New York City once,

616
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna get punched over a pair of headphones.

617
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: So I was like and he was like.

618
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, told me to fuck off, and like literally was

619
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: like run alley and I was like, I'm not about

620
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: to chase this dude for airport.

621
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

622
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: There was this immediate piece for me, though. I was

623
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: like immediately surrendered. I was like, okay, Universe. I was like,

624
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: that's what I mean being spiritual. I'm like okay. I

625
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not going to let this room my day.

626
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: There's nothing i can do about this right now.

627
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: But like you know, things like that where I'm just

628
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: kind of like okay, all right, I guess it's part

629
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: of a bigger plan, you know what I'm saying.

630
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all into that. I'm into synchronicities.

631
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

632
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: I like to read into a lot of things and

633
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: be like, I think that that happens, so that this

634
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: could happen, and like try to connect the dots and

635
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: totally I don't know. I'm into it.

636
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

637
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: Can I tell you some research that I found?

638
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, please, Okay, it's kind of a quick one,

639
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: but I found it interesting and I wanted to share

640
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: it with somebody. So this is a real pultruist case

641
00:30:53,400 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: and it happened in twenty sixteen in ruther Glenn, South Lanarkshire, Lanarkshire.

642
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: Scotland, Scotland. Okay, you ever performed there?

643
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: No, but one of my.

644
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: Best friends is from there. Rose is from Scotland.

645
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: Rose.

646
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we should figure out if she was in

647
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. If she was there, because they have not.

648
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: Solved the case, maybe she was the ghost.

649
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: They have not figured out exactly what has happened here.

650
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: We'll tell me what happened.

651
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: So most of this research is just from a couple

652
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: of articles that were published at the time of this reporting.

653
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: It as a news story in twenty sixteen on the

654
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Speaker 2: Daily Record, this woman named Catherine Schrenan calls the police

655
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Speaker 2: in a panic because she's got a poulter geist.

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Speaker 3: What is a pultergeist?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so poultry guyst it means a noisy ghost.

658
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Speaker 1: And that's what that means, literally, noisy ghost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It usually isn't like seeing apparitions like you know,

660
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Speaker 2: seeing a ghost walking around. It's usually referring to a

661
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: ghost throw and shit, lots of throw and shit, okay,

662
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: lots of noise and drama.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, makes his presence very known by the physical.

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Speaker 2: Like you like when you walk into a room, you say,

665
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Speaker 2: that's a presence, honey, and very noisy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great, So they find this poulter geist.

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Speaker 2: You know, one of the leading theories with poultry guys

668
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Speaker 2: is that it's usually centered around one person's energy. Like

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Speaker 2: there it's actually coming off of a living human. A

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Speaker 2: lot of times there is a teenager in the house

671
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Speaker 2: when there is a poultry geist, but not always. I

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Speaker 2: also think that like a ghost or entity of some

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00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: sort can have poulter Geist attributes. Okay, but anyway, basically,

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Speaker 2: this woman, poor Catherine Shrinan, she has got shit flying

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Speaker 2: around in her home and it's getting violent. And she

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Speaker 2: said it had been going on for two days straight

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Speaker 2: in her ground floor home in a subdivided house. So

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Speaker 2: it's her and her teen son and their pet chihuahua

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Speaker 2: and they are distressed.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, how do.

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Speaker 2: You feel about chihuahuas. I find them to be polarizing.

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Speaker 3: They are very polarizing.

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Speaker 1: I like it if it likes me, but rarely to

684
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Speaker 1: chiuaa is like me, because chihuaha is like their owner.

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Speaker 1: So that's why they get such a bad brath. I

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Speaker 1: feel like, if you have one, everyone's say you meet up,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't have one, or your friend has one,

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Speaker 1: you're like, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But that's where, especially if I'm like gonna be in

690
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Speaker 2: Scotland or something and there's a Chihuahua, I'm like, come on,

691
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Speaker 2: can't there be like a little bit of like Mexican

692
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Speaker 2: pride here? Like you know what I mean? These little

693
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: Mexican dogs, Like can't we Oh my god, don't we

694
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: see each other? We're somehow we're cousins, I think. Anyway,

695
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: So the police who she's called are like, Okay, this

696
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: is probably some mental health situation. This woman's saying that

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Speaker 2: things are getting flown around in her house, like whatever,

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Speaker 2: we'll come over. They go over there, and they in

699
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: fact witness clothes flying in the air. The lights are

700
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 2: going on and off, the lamp shades are upside down,

701
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 2: the oven door is opening and closing, and the chihuahua

702
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Speaker 2: who was playing in the garden was in a seven

703
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: foot tall hedge. The poultry guys through the chihuahua, not

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Speaker 2: the chihuahua.

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Speaker 1: So that's the thing where I'm like, how do they

706
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Speaker 1: pick shit up? That must be a fucking hulk in

707
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Speaker 1: polker guys, because I feel like ghosts can't usually touch it, right, Yeah,

708
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Speaker 1: that's shit. It's the minic. That's a demon. Baby.

709
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Speaker 2: I wish I had one that I could tame, and

710
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: I could have them, you know, move things for me,

711
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: heavy furniture, you know, just do things for me, run

712
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: errands for me. I don't know if you if you

713
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Speaker 2: have that ability, don't just be throwing it right. I

714
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Speaker 2: can see where it would be very annoying to deal

715
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Speaker 2: with this and dangerous whatever, But I feel like if

716
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: you could just wait it out and train the poultry

717
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: guist right, honestly, you could take over the world.

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Speaker 1: Right, Like, if you got that little chihuahua to like you,

719
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you can get this fucking spiritual being to

720
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Speaker 1: agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, you know what I mean.

722
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: Like it's gonna be that hard.

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Speaker 2: So these police they're like, I don't know what. They

724
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 2: didn't have this in the police academy. Okay, I don't

725
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 2: know what I'm supposed to do when the oven doors

726
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: are opening and closing on their own. So they call

727
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Speaker 2: their superiors and they're like, what this is like real,

728
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: this lady's really got a poultry. Guys throwing chihuahuas and shit. Yeah,

729
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: So the police call a priest work. They're like, I

730
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Speaker 2: guess we'll have the Catholic church deal with this. I

731
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Speaker 2: don't know work. And this woman and her son and

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Speaker 2: I believe the chihuahua are all Catholics. And the priest

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Speaker 2: comes over and blesses the house.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The cops are like, uh, I guess you guys should leave,

736
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: like I don't know know. They move out and they

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00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: go to a relative's house nearby. Nobody was hurt. This

738
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: whole thing was just two days. Well, I think it

739
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: was a couple because it also said that the police

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Speaker 2: came for two days as well, so maybe it was

741
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Speaker 2: four days or so. And Catherine later told the press

742
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Speaker 2: that it has been very stressful and that teenagers keep

743
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Speaker 2: going by her house singing the Ghostbusters theme song.

744
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, no way.

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Speaker 2: And neighbors were interviewed and they said they've never seen

746
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: a ghost and one neighbors said that they were actually

747
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Speaker 2: enjoying people honking and singing the Ghostbuster song. And this

748
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: neighbor the quote is bit of excitement for a change.

749
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: So that's pretty much the full story. It was just

750
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: a quick, little quickie Poulter geist in and out, in

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Speaker 2: and out. Nobody was hurt, the chihuahua was fine.

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00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: But two night stand, yeah, yeah, it was.

753
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: It was like one of those hookups. It just lasts

754
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Speaker 2: a couple of days sometimes and then it's over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That is fascinating.

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00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: So does your mind go to demon?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean again, I just feel like, why would

759
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: it make its present so known, you know, unless it's

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00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: some like crazy scientific explanation. You know, maybe like she's

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Speaker 1: sitting on a magnetic vortex. That's the thing too, like

762
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: gravitational and magnetic and all like right, right, that sounds

763
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Speaker 1: like a demon to me, I'm sounds like a demon,

764
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Speaker 1: like you uproot me out of my house and making

765
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: noise for four days. Absolutely not. I just had somebody

766
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Speaker 1: stay with me for three days and I was like

767
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Speaker 1: on day two I was like, get the.

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Speaker 2: Bro So yeah, totally yeah. I think that if you

769
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Speaker 2: go with the leading theory of the teenager, probably the

770
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: teenager something that the teenager can't control, and it's just

771
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: like hormones and whatever is like causing this. I don't know.

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00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: That's it's more than a coincidence that there's always teenagers

773
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: involved in these things. I agree, And I would be

774
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: so curious to know because it seems like the woman

775
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: and was like, no more press we just want to

776
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: live our lives. This is like we don't want to

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00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: hear the Ghostbusters song one more time.

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00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: Right.

779
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: It would be so interesting to know if when they

780
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: moved to their relative's house, if it still was happening,

781
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 2: if it came with them, right.

782
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: I was like when you said that, I was immediately

783
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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well did that did it follow them?

784
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: Did it like show up at the Rotters house too?

785
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: But she was like, no more questions, So who knows.

786
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: That's that's what I would guess happened. I think it

787
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: probably wasn't even anything to do with the house. But anyway, Hey,

788
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: can I show you a haunted eBay doll?

789
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I've been waiting.

790
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: It's time for a segment I call the dolls are living? Okay,

791
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: So what I do? I go to eBay dot com.

792
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: I type in the words haunted doll, and there's thousands

793
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: of them. It's a full industry, and I am only

794
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: contributing to making it more popular. You know, it's up

795
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: for anyone to decide if they think it's real or not. Listen,

796
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm somebody that's not great with money. I have bought

797
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 2: a lot of dumb shit, so I'm not judging anyone

798
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: that wants to, you know, buy one of these. But

799
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: here's one that's not too expensive compared to some I've seen.

800
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: This one is twenty eight dollars. I would like you

801
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: to meet Martha.

802
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Hello Martha, Oh my god? Why is

803
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: she making that? She looks like she's on it.

804
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's definitely playing the roles.

805
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: She's Jesus Christ. I wonder if she started out as

806
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: a baby doll, and once the demon entered her she

807
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: went she turned into this. Yeah she got stuck or

808
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the demon is like breathing so hard

809
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 1: that it just sucked her face.

810
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, a demon will age it. So she is

811
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: an elderly woman doll clearly, and she has on like

812
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: kind of like a whole dress. Does not look comfortable

813
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: at all. Also, for some reason, she has like white

814
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: flakes on her dress, which is very relatable to me

815
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: as a sufferer of dandriff. She did the effort of

816
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: drawing on some eyebrows and a bottom lip and some blush,

817
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: which I think is lovely, and some eyeliner.

818
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a little.

819
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: But we can't ignore that she has her mouth open.

820
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks you know those videos on Twitter where

821
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: I've seen people do that with other parts of their bodies.

822
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: Let's just say that.

823
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I've been on a few cruises, all right, It's.

824
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: Got a very open kind of a mouth. If you

825
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: want to see what we're talking about, go to ghosted

826
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: by ros on Instagram under the dab dolls.

827
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you zoom in just on the mouth,

828
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: the word that comes to mind is rose.

829
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: So yes, it's very rosy. It's a gaping mouth.

830
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: I would say, correct, a gaping, puckered mouth. And also

831
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Speaker 1: it looks like instead of covering her eyebrows, she shaved

832
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 1: her eyebrows off and she instead has oatmeal underbags under

833
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: her eyes.

834
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: Which is interesting. Yeah, I wonder what's going on underneath

835
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: the eyes, because she does. She's got some Ikea bags.

836
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: Under there and honestly a hard front in this dand age.

837
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: Wow, she does have a hard front. Wig not to

838
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: come for her listen, I'm sorry, but h yeah, here's

839
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: the best part. They come with biographies.

840
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: Please, I'm dying to know where she was made and

841
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: born and bred.

842
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 2: Okay, it says here. Here we have miss Martha aka

843
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: Messi Martha. The nickname will become quite clear the further

844
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: along you read.

845
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Martha was.

846
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: An amazing woman for the most part, other than being

847
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: a little messy sometimes. She died an elderly lady in

848
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties. I am not sure where she lived

849
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: or how she died. It's almost as if she's uncomfortable

850
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: speaking on it. I gather she does not like to

851
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: dwell on sad times and prefers to keep the conversation

852
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: light and fun. To say that she was a hoot

853
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 2: would be an understatement. She was the center of drama,

854
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 2: starting in her family, workplaces, and even in her friend's lives.

855
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 2: She loves to gossip and spread rumors. Many people did

856
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: not like her for this reason, which is understandable. But

857
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 2: aside from loving drama, she also was a very sweet person.

858
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: All the same time, people could not stay mad at

859
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 2: Martha because she's just so funny. After all, in her mind,

860
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: she was just having fun by stirring the pot, not

861
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: to intentionally hurt anyone. See this is me on the

862
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: deck on the cruise being like, tell me who you hate.

863
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: Literally, I knew this all reminded me of someone I

864
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: just cutting put my finger on it.

865
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: Martha has been known to hide things from me in

866
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: my home, so keep a watchful eye on your belongings.

867
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Speaker 2: She had children and grandchildren. She was a wonderful cook.

868
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: Let's see here, she loves animals. I'm just trying to

869
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: see some more ghosty stuff about her.

870
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: Well, wait, so this this seller knows all of this

871
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: just from having the doll.

872
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: Yes, and they've done some sessions together, got it with

873
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: different communication devices with ghosts, and that's how she's gathered

874
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: some of the backstory. Wow, but it says on the

875
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: night I purchased the doll, my kitchen smelled like someone

876
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: was baking cookies. I immediately did an EVP session. It

877
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: said my name is Martha and that it likes to

878
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 2: talk shit, is what the ghost says.

879
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: So well, listen, you've got a great career ahead, have you.

880
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: Don't you know what? I would love for her to

881
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: help me write my act. And I don't know I

882
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: actually like her. It's funny because when I first read

883
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: messy Martha, I thought that meant like she causes like

884
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: shit all over your house, But like, no, she's just

885
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: like messy drama.

886
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: Like she's literally, oh my gosh, key matchen just like

887
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: but now there's like a spirit of like slander in

888
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: your home. Sorry, I'm looking at it from like evangelical right.

889
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: My mom would be like, no, now that is a

890
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: spirit of a drama. That is the spirit of lice

891
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: of this is no, No, this is a spirit get us.

892
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: She'd be like, you know what I mean? Can matching

893
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: people coming out your home and all of a sudden

894
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: they just like have the urge to just like fucking

895
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: talk match it.

896
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: I live for the drama. I'm fine with.

897
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: The I love it.

898
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: Hey, can I put you some ghost voices?

899
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: Please? I would love It's time for.

900
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: EVP or e TV please. Okay, so EVP Electronic Voice Phenomenal.

901
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: What happens is ghost hunters believe they've captured a ghost

902
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: speaking in a haunted location. They PLoP it up on

903
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: YouTube and I'm going to play two of them for you,

904
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: and I want you to tell me what you hear,

905
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: and I'll give you an ABCD option, one of them

906
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: being what the person that posts it believe the ghost

907
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: is saying.

908
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: Okay, great.

909
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: So this first one is from Okay p r I

910
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: on YouTube, which stands for Oklahoma Paranormal Investigators in Research.

911
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: Ooh, so ficial.

912
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what this location is, but they

913
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: just it just says turret house, which I don't know.

914
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: I tried to look into and it was hard to find.

915
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: If that is an actual place or if it is

916
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: a house with turrets, I don't know. But either way,

917
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: what is this ghost saying?

918
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: Way again?

919
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: Again?

920
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: Could you hear it?

921
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: I heard I heard help me this is burning, That's

922
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: what I heard.

923
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: Help me, this is burning?

924
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, So basically, you know me at my monthly check up.

925
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: You.

926
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: Crazy? Help me, this is burning.

927
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: I want to hear one more time, though, can I okay? Okay, honestly,

928
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: do you hear that?

929
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: Totally? Well, it's definitely something like that.

930
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, help me, I hear help me for sure?

931
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: Oklahoma paranormal investigators and research did not believe that that

932
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: is what it says. Help me, this is burning. So

933
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: here's ABC D. Which one of these did they believe

934
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: it was? Was it A I hate you?

935
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: Is that okay?

936
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: Is it B? I hate you? You're so good?

937
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: Good?

938
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: Is it C?

939
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: Hey you?

940
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 2: Is it for good? Or D? Hey you? Are you fergie?

941
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: You know, like when you see a lady and you're like,

942
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 2: is that that lady looks very fur delicious? Is that fergie? Okay?

943
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: It's one of those let me play it again.

944
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: One more time? Oh wow, I mean it could be

945
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 3: any of those things.

946
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: I know.

947
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: How do these people know for sure?

948
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: Nobody does.

949
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna guess I hate you?

950
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: Is that? Okay?

951
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: They think it's hey you? Is it for good? Okay,

952
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: now that we know that, let's listen again, because I

953
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: totally hear that.

954
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: Is it for good?

955
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: I hear it, Hey you, is this for good? I

956
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 3: wonder if they're asking them like am I stuck here forever?

957
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: Like? Is this for good?

958
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: Totally? Here's one more. It's actually from the same YouTube

959
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: channel and it is at a sanatorium. Doesn't say which one.

960
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: It's just at a sanatorium.

961
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: What is a sanatorium? Is that where they sanitize thing?

962
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, very sanitary. I think it was also

963
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: a word that was used just for like hospital.

964
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: H that makes sense.

965
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: On the TV show I'm on Living for the Dead,

966
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: we went to Waverly Hill Sanatorium and that was for

967
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: people that had tuberculosis. At one point it was a hospital.

968
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 2: Oh god, okay, what is this ghost saying? Oh it's

969
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: kind of a creepy voice.

970
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard like Ted, I was like, what okay?

971
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: That one's like witchy. It's like the gollumn Ye yeah,

972
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: she's like a gollum drag Like what very witchy?

973
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 2: Very my bressure.

974
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally, one more time, baby. That is some ell

975
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: ekonoma nomen option matter after med economi shiit bitch. That

976
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: is a spell that is an el economen. That is

977
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: some the wizard and I very wicked.

978
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: Well here's some options. Was it a take me to

979
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: the Boner Cave. Is it be take my breath away?

980
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: Is it c take me to the sleigh or d

981
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 2: tame me? I'm feeling gay. Okay, it's one of those.

982
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want it to be. Now that

983
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: I know it's a it's a gay ghost, I'm I oh,

984
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: it makes sense. Take me to the Bonner Cave for sure.

985
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna play it now. Okay, you're actually right.

986
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: They believe it's say take me to the Bonner Cave.

987
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 2: Well, I was not being entirely accurate. It was saying

988
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: take me to the Bonner Cave. Two at Boner with

989
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: two ends to the Bonner Cave. Now, I was googling,

990
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what is the Bonner Cave? Is that

991
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: really a place?

992
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Is it?

993
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure I don't know.

994
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: But there is a really famous haunted place city town

995
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: that is constantly in these evp like there's tons of

996
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: ghost hunting that happens there. It's called Virginia City, Nevada.

997
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: It's like an old mining town.

998
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: Wow. And I found in my.

999
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: Research that there is a place there that they refer

1000
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: to as the Bonner Shaft. So it says that the

1001
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 2: Boner Shaft was named in the on of mind Superintendent

1002
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: Charles S. Bonner. Okay, and this article I found that's

1003
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: on h MDB dot org. It talks about the construction

1004
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: of the shaft. Consisted of twelve inch timbers that were

1005
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: installed and basically there's a sinkhole. I don't know's there's

1006
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: some great things.

1007
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: To you had me at twelve inch timbers.

1008
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: The Bonner Shaft cave in was filled with a plug

1009
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: consisting of steel and concrete. It was erected in two

1010
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: thousand and nine. Listen, there's some good stuff here. If

1011
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: you're ever looking for hm dB dot org, it'll tell

1012
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: you all about the Bonner Shaft of Gould and Curry mine.

1013
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1014
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: Anyway, this ghost wanted to go to the Bonner cave

1015
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: I love it. Take me to the Bonner d Laguna.

1016
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,640
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1017
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,279
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1018
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1019
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1020
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1031
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Speaker 1: change people's minds about what drag artists are capable of.

1032
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Speaker 3: And I'm making some damn good pop. So check out

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1037
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1039
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1041
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Speaker 1: Oh thank you.

1042
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Speaker 2: All right, well let's hang up. I want you to

1043
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 2: tell me everyone.

1044
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1045
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1046
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1047
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1049
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

1050
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Speaker 2: haunt me okay by This has been an exactly right production.

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Speaker 2: Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I

1052
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Speaker 2: read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you,

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Speaker 2: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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Speaker 2: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

1060
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 2: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

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Speaker 2: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by

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Speaker 2: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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Speaker 2: Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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Speaker 2: by the Chill Karen Kilgareth, the Spookky Georgia Hard Start,

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Speaker 2: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.

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Speaker 1: H