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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in fris Joe sat. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. What's up? Welcome into Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. Rob Phillips hosting for

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Speaker 1: Bill Jones tending to his TV duties as per usual

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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday Big Show. Today, Brian brought us across

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Speaker 1: the table from me, Mickey Spagnola to my right as

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Speaker 1: always Kent Garrison producing next door. You're rubbing your hands together.

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Speaker 1: You're ready go, I'm ready. Hap your birthday to brought us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate that Mickey had the Lumberjack breakfast over there.

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Speaker 1: Do you knows that, Yes, he had the Lumberjack breakfast.

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Speaker 1: What do you have eggs? Over easy? Now? I would

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Speaker 1: I went the I went. I'm on that program that

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Speaker 1: diet where I'm not eating anything and anything. Basically, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: it's like I'm eating air very yeah, but it's very yeah.

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Speaker 1: But it's like they allow you to eat eggs. No cheese.

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Speaker 1: I eat egg like an egg omelet, three egg omelet

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Speaker 1: with with a bell, pepper and spinach. That's it. What's

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Speaker 1: wrong with that? Nothing's wrong with it. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: have like one hundred pounds of cheese in that thing, too,

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Speaker 1: especially when someone cooks it for you. No, and I

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Speaker 1: have no complaints about the fifty. It's easy to be

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Speaker 1: on a diet this place. Egg whites are regular. You

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Speaker 1: have regular eggs in this thing. Yeah, splurge, Yeah, why not?

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Speaker 1: Why can't you cheat on your birthday? I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: do that. I've come. I've lost a serious I've lost

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Speaker 1: like fourteen pounds doing this. Congrats. No, I appreciate that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, there's no cheating. Well, you know your birthday, man,

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Speaker 1: it's especially especially did you make a pizza last night? No,

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Speaker 1: it's a long story. I'll tell you later. Okay, sounds good.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to, you know, I'd say, no, it's good.

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Speaker 1: It's good. We've got all It's funny how we have

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Speaker 1: all these birthdays. It's crazy. Ambar on Saturday, Mickey yesterday,

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Speaker 1: me today, Dave Hellman on Fridriday. Friday. Yeah, there was

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Speaker 1: there one last week two week Mills. No, No, I

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Speaker 1: think maybe it was next week. Yeah, yeah, just damn

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Speaker 1: staff back around the holidays. Yeah, you know, absolutely, it's

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Speaker 1: uh and I feel like we're a tight knit group.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's good to celebrate everybody. Yep. And it's

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Speaker 1: easier when the team Shannon there for a minute, you said, like, Shannon,

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Speaker 1: what did I say everyday? Everybody? What's up? Birthday brought

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Speaker 1: us had to Concrete Cowboy Go last night. It was

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Speaker 1: a good show. Shannon does a really good job hosting

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Speaker 1: that thing. Yeah, moves it around too, you know. And

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Speaker 1: the and the folks that came out, and we had

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Speaker 1: a couple of fans that were there, gentlemen that we're

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Speaker 1: wearing the cowboy gear and kind of cozied up there

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Speaker 1: at the watering hole and uh asked some good questions.

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Speaker 1: There's some good questions. Had a gentleman from Jamaica that

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Speaker 1: was there last night. He was would he say he

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Speaker 1: moved he moved the United States to get close to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but he ended up in Washington, d c.

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Speaker 1: D To figure out that He's like, whoa wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I didn't come from this team. I game from the

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Speaker 1: Southern team. Wrong nfcastrong wrong rival there, but no, that's

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Speaker 1: compass or what. I don't know that Nate gave gives

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Speaker 1: you like a quick rundown to somebody's life. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: right before the question. Yeah, you know it is Mickey, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the show. He was in honor of Columbus. He came

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Speaker 1: one place. He was not on the penior of the

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Speaker 1: Santa Maria. No, he was. He was fun. He might

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Speaker 1: have been with the Bob sled dudes. He just ended

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Speaker 1: up in the wrong spots found America. But he ended

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Speaker 1: up where in Puerto Rico or South America summer where

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Speaker 1: it was about three hours north. You know, he almost

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Speaker 1: had it, almost made it. He found he found the Star. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know he did a good job. Yeah. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the guy. Had a good discussion about Dak and maybe

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Speaker 1: we can get into that again today, just kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, dissecting stuff there. Yeah, we're dissecting where he's at.

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Speaker 1: I think there's mostly positive stuff. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 1: some fans, some observers are ever happy completely Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: calling back and it wasn't a perfect day or anything

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Speaker 1: like that. Coach too, Yeah, um, coach deserves your respect

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Speaker 1: today from what you know. I mean again, they've got

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Speaker 1: trades help the quarterbacks playing better. You're playing with backup

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, you get a really good defense. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot to be to be looking forward to as this

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Speaker 1: got a big show. We've got an unfamiliar opponent to

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Speaker 1: maybe dive into a little bit. Yeah, today Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 1: different looking at their tape and seen that in a

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Speaker 1: while seven and six. Yeah, they're in playoff position as well,

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Speaker 1: second place in their division, trying to get a wildcard spot.

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Speaker 1: Huge win against the Texans the other day, snapped a

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Speaker 1: nine game Houston winning Street. Yeah, the Texans. You know,

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Speaker 1: completely what's going on in the AFC, but I do

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Speaker 1: know that the Colts went and got them a big

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Speaker 1: week before though against Jacksonville. That was a bad loss.

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Speaker 1: Eric has really helped them in the passing game. And

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that another tight end Mickey that you

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Speaker 1: find a way. Okay, is at Jeff he is at linebackers?

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Speaker 1: huge game against Tennessee. Nine targets, nine receptions, some big,

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Speaker 1: back to the last five games. They've really started feeding

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Speaker 1: many times do you play back to back teams that

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Speaker 1: the tight ends they're leading. Yeah, receiver in touchdowns, Ibron

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Speaker 1: underneath to their backs a lot. They drafted this Naheim Hines.

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Speaker 1: he's he's tough to bring down. But they use him

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Speaker 1: like as a wide receiver. They use him in the slot,

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Speaker 1: they toss him the ball. They kind of have a

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Speaker 1: rotation of backs that they do use. But I think

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Speaker 1: the most important thing for this offense for the Colts

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Speaker 1: is the fact that they're protecting Andrew luck now and

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Speaker 1: and that's something that you know for a while there

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Speaker 1: that wasn't always the case. Well, especially given the injuries

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Speaker 1: that he's had shoulder. Yeah, and he's bounced back thirty

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns. That's I believe that's second behind Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Yeah, and a bit of a renaissance

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Speaker 1: season for him. The run game is not their strengths. Basically,

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Speaker 1: they mentioned it. Marlon mack Is is their starter, they

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Speaker 1: use a couple of different Jordan Wilkins, Yeah, And for me,

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Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this on The Happy Hour Mick yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and you talk about this too. Defensively for Dallas, line

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Speaker 1: one is stopping the run and they've been able to

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Speaker 1: do that, particularly in the last five games. Sixty six

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Speaker 1: yards given up per game during this win streak, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think they've allowed one hundred yard rusher yet.

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Speaker 1: to do that. Zeke's like one hundred yards behind their

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Speaker 1: entire team rushing. Yeah, they've rushed for thirteen thirty three

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Speaker 1: their leader sixteen six sixteen Mac Mac that Zeke's doubled that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: although when you mentioned Luck getting protected, he's been sacked

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Speaker 1: three times less than your quarterback. They went for a

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Speaker 1: they got off to a one in five, they did.

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Speaker 1: They got off to a really bad start, and but

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423
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428
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Speaker 1: That's Tommy John dot com Forward Slash Cowboys. And I'm sorry, Mick,

429
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: I just grabbed this like it's in the other normal day.

430
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 1: I allogized and ask a question. I know, I didn't

431
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: know what you were doing. I said, okay, go ahead,

432
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 1: you're running the show here. Do you think do you

433
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: think that? Do you think that Tommy John? When they're

434
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: sitting around writing their copy, did they all think of us? No? No,

435
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: they they they they sit around and they come up

436
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: when and they look at you, Oh man, we can't

437
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: use that one. Oh yeah, they like, okay, here try

438
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,479
Speaker 1: this one. Now read it all right, Bill, read this one?

439
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: And he oh, you know, and don't grab your your

440
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: you know your boys? Is this PC? And and and

441
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: then they're laughing, and then someone's laughing and then say yeah, no,

442
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: that's good, that's good. Change the word to this, you know.

443
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,959
Speaker 1: And I mean, they sit around write copy would you,

444
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean used to, used to you've done that stuff?

445
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: Having you. I was a copywriter in marketing for three

446
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: years before I came back. Do you just cringe? Is

447
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: that cringe worthy? Um? I mean I love the product.

448
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: I love the product. But Tommy John folks didn't write this.

449
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 1: I don't think I think you are folks. Oh really

450
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 1: it was their folks, was it. Yeah, that's their whole

451
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: marketing scheme. Well, and see their ads and that's their voice.

452
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: The guys are sitting on the bench like pulling their

453
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: you know we're talking about it, right, miss accomplished, No,

454
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: miss accomplished, for sure, it's and I guarantee you yes,

455
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: they are nitpicking over every word because that's what happens,

456
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: because every word counts in terms of trying to sab

457
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: somebody's attention. So like when Bill reads it and Frank

458
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: wrote one there or Julie wrote one, that's just ridiculous

459
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: that they are like, no, Julie, we can't go with that.

460
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: Was probably a room of twelve people trying to figure out, yeah,

461
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: can we use boys, Okay, it's stretch it. Here we go.

462
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it, and it is a

463
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: great product. I'm wearing mine right now, Katy two. Yes,

464
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: good job, Mick. So did they put out a red

465
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: carpet for Amari Cooper when he walks out to practice

466
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: today for NFC Offensive Player of the Week. Yes, second

467
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: time he beat the quarterback out. Huh. Yeah, a quarterback

468
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,239
Speaker 1: deserves some kind of acknowledgement, didn't he aw? They're gonna say,

469
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: because of the two interceptions, somebody had to throw them

470
00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, somebody did. Quarterback deserved a nod? He does.

471
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: He's been kind of getting kicked in them and the boys. Yeah,

472
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: he needs his Tommy Johns. Yeah. Because Yeah, I think

473
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: people probably looked at the three turnovers and said, well,

474
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got tweets from fans that are like,

475
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: oh great, great, glad that he had a great fourth

476
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: quarter in overtime. Yeah, he should have been able just

477
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: to hand off the whole fourth quarter if not for

478
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: the turnovers. The way that they were dominating the game offensively.

479
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: But he's not getting enough credit, Dak Prescott for what

480
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: he's doing offensively. I do think, I do think Amari

481
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: is a worthy winner. Though no catches on thirteen targets,

482
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: I think absolutely. He was eight for eight the week

483
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: before playing really well. Mick Anon makes the game winning catch.

484
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: Nice tracking that ball, Yeah, that's tough. You know, ball

485
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: gets knocked in the air. You're kind of looking around,

486
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: you're trying to move. He was boop right there, grab

487
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: it go. I'm not covered even when I'm covered. Yeah,

488
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: gotta love it. He said that it was Russeul Douglas right, Yeah,

489
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: and coverage. He said that he was sitting on those

490
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: routes inside all game long. Yeah, and he knew that

491
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna try to sell this fade. Yeah,

492
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: but I knew he wasn't gonna bite on it, and

493
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: he didn't, and he almost made the play. Yeah, that

494
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: was a good chess match there. But that just showed you, though,

495
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: how really in bad You know, Douglas probably should have

496
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: should have could have intercepted that ball, you know, but

497
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: he was so he was so out of sorts. That's

498
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: the thing that that Cooper does too as a cornerback,

499
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: that he makes he put so much stress on you

500
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: to have to deal with all his moves and the

501
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: ability to catch the football even when you have him covered,

502
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: the ability to finish. That's that's very stressful to have

503
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: to play because you feel like you never get in

504
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: a rhythm playing against a guy like that because you're

505
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: not making any plays. He's making every single play. What

506
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: did the Eagles do? I mean, they tried to put

507
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,239
Speaker 1: all They took two or three different guys just to

508
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: try and put him in front of him, and it

509
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: didn't work. Yep, you know, and that just showed you

510
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: that that's just what this guy is. Well, that'll teach

511
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: him to all out blow and play single man on

512
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: four guys in the secondary. They took it, They took

513
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: a chance. Yeah, do you think they had to take

514
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: a chance, though, Mick, do you think that mean like

515
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: they were down to where we've got to make a

516
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: play or we're not going to get this ball back.

517
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was a heck. I understand

518
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but that Dallas took eight minutes and

519
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: ten seconds off that clock. The only get ten minutes

520
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: for the whole quarter. If I was Jim Schwartz, I hey,

521
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: he took it. He took it gamble and he gambled

522
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: and Zeke had a good pick up and Dak was

523
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: able to see Bradham coming in his face. And once

524
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: they once all that happened, then Amari Cooper was gonna win.

525
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: But I don't blame him for blitzing at that situation

526
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: because actually, if they hadn't blitzed, Yeah, then Hooper was

527
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna break wide open. Yeah, Dak had to throw the

528
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: balls right then, he wanted why Douglas got his hand

529
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: in there and he had he had a double move

530
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: on him going and that second move he was gonna

531
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: leave him behind. I just think that to me that

532
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're you're probably gonna lose the game anyway,

533
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, because if they get the first down right

534
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 1: there and you just kick a field well you hope

535
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: you kick a field goal after and you can train

536
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: the clock and right, yeah, no, that's exactly right. You can.

537
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: You can, you can take it all, but you can.

538
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: You can have a drive that lasts for nine minutes

539
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: and fifty seven seconds if you want. And they but

540
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: you know what, I tell you what that's that was

541
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: just that was that was a clinic. That was a clinic.

542
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: The way to play the special to play the overtime

543
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: period for the Cowboys, the way they drove the football,

544
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: the way they mixed up their plays, the way they

545
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: got it down to the very end and then but

546
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, get the game winner right there. That's still

547
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 1: the downside of the overtime rule. I'm just if it was.

548
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: I saw seven overtime game Mickey that I never want

549
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: to see again. No, no, but and I don't want

550
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: to see that. But I think lowering the time to

551
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: ten minutes, one team can do basically what the Cowboys

552
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: did and I don't never get a chance to get

553
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: the ball back. Maybe something they revisit because of the

554
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: short I hope they don't. Well, I hope they don't,

555
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: but it does create more but what did they do

556
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: it for player on the field, But it does create

557
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: more kissing your sister scenarios where you got more ties

558
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: and everybody kind of feels empty about it at the end.

559
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: There's been more ties I'm sure this season than in Passion.

560
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, there's no question. But but also you got

561
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: to look at the situation. Though Dallas had dominated that

562
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: game offensively the entire time, you know, it really shouldn't

563
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: have surprised us that they were able to you know,

564
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: they had they had a couple of ten play drives,

565
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, six seven, eight minutes that that didn't result

566
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: in touchdowns. So to me that that doesn't surprise me

567
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: that Dallas took the ball and then and took it

568
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: and kept it because they had they had really dominated

569
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: Philadelphia throughout the game. That's Philadelphia's job. You get a stop.

570
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: They couldn't get a stop. Did they not blitz on

571
00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: that final play of regulation to force overtime and Sackdack

572
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: the final player regulation? Yes? Yes, yeah, I mean it

573
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: was like they was after the bad snap or the

574
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: low snap that that that killed us. I mean, that

575
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: was that that rolled in it. See if they're probably

576
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: gonna get a completion there and then kick the field

577
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: goal to win it, right, that's probably what's gonna happen

578
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: because Philadelphia really didn't have any answers for I mean,

579
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna hit Beasley, he's gonna hit he's gonna hit Cooper,

580
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna throw the ball to see, he's gonna hit

581
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: somebody to get another five or six yards, and they're gonna,

582
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, then the Eagles's gonna try and use their

583
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: time outs. And you know question that a fan sent

584
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: into me the other day, and I know the answer,

585
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: But because you go, if you kick a field goal

586
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: first possession, the other team is supposed to get a shot,

587
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: right if the Cowboys had kicked it with no time left,

588
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: the game's over, though, we were Yeah, the game's over.

589
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: Troy Aitman explained it that way, and I was thinking, Okay,

590
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: do you get one untimed play. Do you get a

591
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: chance to return the kickoff? Or okay, the kickoff goes

592
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: in the end zone, it's a touchback, you don't return it.

593
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: Do you get one untime play? I don't. I've never

594
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: game's over. I think the game's over. It's over, Yeah,

595
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: that's what I thought. Yeah, but game's not supposed to

596
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: end on a field goal in the first possession of overtime.

597
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: But if there's no time left, yeah, that's my point

598
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: on the time. Yeah. That that the reason they said

599
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: player safety. They were worried about the length of the game,

600
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: that the games were going longer and longer, and they

601
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: weren't nice and sweet in their little three hours of

602
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: the box. So the next game could start. I need

603
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: to look at college football then, too, because that's a

604
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: six hour marathon. Some of those that's ridiculous. Even something

605
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: will be done, not not not about the seven overtime game.

606
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: How many games have we seen it four four and

607
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: a half hours. I love college football, but I trust

608
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: me sitting to that seven overtime game. I would never

609
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: wish that I've had kidney stones before. I would rather

610
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: do kidney stones and have to sit through that thing. No,

611
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that kidney stones one of those. Yeah,

612
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I think we've all had kidney stones. That's that's a

613
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: bad idea. That was a I mean in the college tried.

614
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: Because now they they'll at the block, will start as

615
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: soon as after the first down as the ball spotted.

616
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: It's not like they need to get way of that,

617
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: nap it they need to get rid of They're they're

618
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: moving that up. Yeah, don't stop the clock. I'll move

619
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: it up again and just keep it, you know, keep going,

620
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: but keep it going. Yeah. Okay, since you brought up

621
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: a Mari Cooper, Yes, since coming to Dallas in week nine,

622
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: he leads the NFL in receiving yards six hundred and

623
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: forty two or he catches and it's tied for the

624
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: lead with six touchdown catches. Okay, better anything. You're gonna

625
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: pick at twenty five right now, that would be the

626
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: draft pick right right at the moment, right has this

627
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: worked out better than you could have imagined. Right now, Mick, Yeah,

628
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean, did you what were your expectations when I

629
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: thought they I thought they hit a home run, but

630
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure on the first round pick. And then

631
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: it's fair. Part of me was, Okay, why why are

632
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: the Raiders doing this? They know something we don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's huge. That is, That's what that's That's what you

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Speaker 1: second pick. But but really, look, Luke, what's happened with

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Speaker 1: you were probably thinking that both those picks were going

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Speaker 1: and he's so much yeah, right, and regardless of Risano there,

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Speaker 1: Cleil Max arguably the best pass rusher in the league.

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Speaker 1: He's up there. Yeah, he put Tank up there, he

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Speaker 1: put some other guys up there. And there was some

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Speaker 1: apprehension from fans too, because Amari Cooper's numbers had dropped

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Speaker 1: other factors clearly involved with the raiders offense that contributed

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Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, but this was a unique situation where

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Speaker 1: a guy at this tow it probably should not be

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Speaker 1: available via trade, and he was, and so it gave

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Speaker 1: up what they felt like was adequate. I don't know that,

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Speaker 1: or maybe I missed it what the genesis of the

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Speaker 1: ask that question, and I can very easily get an answer,

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Speaker 1: and so does it does it mean that that does

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Speaker 1: John Gruden? And we could find out does John Gruden

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Speaker 1: I think we have to worry about a situation, not

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Speaker 1: worry about, but maybe a situation that Oakland got into

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Speaker 1: Cooper could be Yeah, everything. I don't know that for

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742
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841
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: I apologize very much, so thank you. What's up? Hey,

842
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: No apologies, Like I got to listen to both of

843
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: the reads during the hold that was Yeah, I'm sure.

844
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah it made your day. I bet that. So I'm

845
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: actually not the Irene who used to call you. I'm

846
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm the hot Sauce leaving Irene from last year. Okay, okay, great,

847
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: well thank you for calling. Yeah, yeah, the hot Sauce. Yes, absolutely,

848
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: we appreciate that. Yeah, oh, hot sauce. Come on, Mickey,

849
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: hot sauce. Yeah, I didn't get it all together. Mickey

850
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: was struggle a little bit here with this steper. Go ahead,

851
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: there you go. Well, Brian, happy birthday and happy birthday

852
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: today as well. Thank you. Um, so perfect segue from

853
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: your last segment. I'm going to be the fan that

854
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: admits that there they were completely wrong about Lamari Cooper. Okay,

855
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: good for you. One of one of the things, because Brian,

856
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: I remember when you were talking about the possibility of

857
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: the trade. You were talking about how you heard some

858
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: rumors that he didn't want to play football. That was true,

859
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: and and I think after listening to what he said

860
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: after the game, Yeah, that was even more evidence that

861
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: that was true. So I think the new culture, new

862
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: new team, New City has brought him life. And I

863
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: was seeing on the field, but I was I was

864
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: on record saying this is going to set the franchise

865
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: back like half a decade. So happy to be wrong. Good.

866
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to say, Um, part of

867
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: the reason I'm calling today is because you share a

868
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: birthday with my father. So my father actually passed away

869
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and I have to say

870
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: you guys I had. It was like the worst summer

871
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: of my life. I lost my cousin, my dad, and

872
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: my grandmother. It was a struggle and all I did

873
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: was listen to you guys just to kind of get

874
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: through about maybe a year of just that darkness. So

875
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to say thank you to you guys for that. Um.

876
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: I know it's entertainment, but sometimes it's just something you

877
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: can cling to you too, and there's things you need

878
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: to be distracted from. Well, thank you, stronger, Well, thank you, hey,

879
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Are you still there? You're still there.

880
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm still here. Yeah, tell us what you think? What

881
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: give us? Give us how this thing is going to

882
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: finish out? For this team? Oh man? So I you

883
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: know Nate would be like, don't say but yeah, but

884
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: yes I am. I am afraid of how it's going

885
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: to turn out. But I will say the way the

886
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: defense is playing, sure, there's I don't want to jinx it,

887
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: but they're starting to remind me of the two thousand

888
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: and seven Giants who knocked off are awesome team that year.

889
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: Oh wow, there you go. I like it. I'm hoping

890
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: to go all the way. I don't know about that

891
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 1: we're at least gonna win one playoff game though, So okay,

892
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see how far we go. Not a

893
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: bad start for a young team. Yeah, not a bad

894
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: start at all. Thank you many much. Yeah, happy holidays,

895
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: the kind word. Yeah, call us back anytime. That was

896
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: a great call. Good, good call. Good. Um, that's a

897
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that comparison the Seven Giants, that

898
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: was kind of a young team, is a team that

899
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: got better as the season went along. Whe Their defense

900
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: was really good. Yeah. Yeah, the pressure they were able

901
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: to put on quarterbacks with their front for right, that's

902
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: what they did to the Cowboys. Yeah, exactly was that

903
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: front fourth? The Cowboys couldn't handle it. Yeah, And you've

904
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: said this from the very beginning, that young football team,

905
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: one of the youngest in the league, needed some time

906
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: to for some young guys to grow up on the field,

907
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: you know a little bit. But they also made a

908
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: couple big changes that had they not made those changes,

909
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd be in the position they're in.

910
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: We just talked about. We spent a segment on Amari

911
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: Cooper and this offensive line has regained their identity now

912
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: the past protection they'll tell you it needs to improve, yes,

913
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: but what they've done, especially in the running game with Zeke,

914
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: it's more reminiscent of what they've done in recent years. Yeah, no, absolutely,

915
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: and you know the defense grew. Look what you were doing. Yeah,

916
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: you basically had two first I mean, I know Jalen

917
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: Smith played last year, right, he wasn't Jalen Smith? Correct?

918
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: It's almost like a first year starter. And then vander

919
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: Esch has to step in with Sean Lee. You have

920
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods starting a defensive tas maliek Collins in his

921
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: third seat, only his third season, and he missed a

922
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: lot of the first two with injuries. Yeah, you know.

923
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: And then you were throwing out on the outside. Okay,

924
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: you had Crawford, but behind that it was Tacco who

925
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, how much did he played last year? You know?

926
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: And behind that, oh Randy Gregory you remember him. Yeah,

927
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: when's the last time he played? Rolling the dice? There?

928
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: Two years? Yeah? Pretty much? And then a rookie Armstrong.

929
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was awfully young, you know.

930
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: And we said this the other day Byron Jones playing

931
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: a different position, m Shitabewoozier. He started five games last year.

932
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: That was it five games? Right? You know, Antoine Woods

933
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: never started at safety, he was playing in the slot,

934
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: and this is his second year. So there was a

935
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: lot of moving parts with young guy eyes, you know,

936
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: and you know, I know everybody looks at it going

937
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: into the season and you know the quarterback and the

938
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: running back, well they're salty veterans. Yeah, they played all

939
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: of two years and the running back missed six games

940
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: last year. So it was an awfully young team and

941
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: with a basically almost other than the coordinator, is a

942
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: new coaching staff. That's true. The thing you talk about

943
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: the coach, you still have good segue from me there

944
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: there Chris Rashard. I have to give Rod Marinelli a

945
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: lot of credit, not just for the defense that they've

946
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: kind of put together, you know, in his vision, but

947
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: the unselfishness that he's shown to allow Chris Richard to

948
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: flourish here. He could have very easily said, you know, no,

949
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: you coach the defensive backs. I'm gonna you know, I'll

950
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: do what I have to do. But he saw an oppertunity.

951
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: The first I remember the first press conference, well, first

952
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: meetings we had with him. He was just glowing about

953
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: Chris Rashard. It was like the best acquisition. And you know,

954
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: and sometimes guy say stuff and you go, ah, he's

955
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: that's not sincere. But you know, Rod Marnelli, He Marnelli

956
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: is not a bser. He's not that guy. If he

957
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: tells you it's this, believe it's this, you know, and

958
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: he's all along. He's he's come out and singing the

959
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: praises of Christopher Shark and he's allowed him to flourish.

960
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: And they allowed him to make the moves that he

961
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: felt like he needed to make in the secondary. Think

962
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: about that, though, you take and you got, you got

963
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: Byron Jones started corner, but you also took Jordan Lewis

964
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: out of the starting role as well, and you said, okay, well, no,

965
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna put Anthony Brown in this role and we're

966
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: gonna make you know, And there was a lot of,

967
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: like Mickey said, there's a lot of moving parts. And

968
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: then you go out and somebody on the defensive staff

969
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: evaluated Leyton vander esch and as along with the scouts,

970
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: and somebody in the defensive staff evaluated Jalen Smith and said,

971
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: you know what, yeah, let's take a shot there. If

972
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: you guys feel good about this. Let's go. So you know,

973
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: it's there's a lot of really things that are there

974
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: that are coming up on this defense, especially that some

975
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: really really good decisions that have been made. And that's

976
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: why your defense is in the condition it is in

977
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: now and playing as well as it is because some

978
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: guys and made some really hard decisions, but there were

979
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: the right decisions. Like I say, you go only find

980
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: the human log to play. You know, one, you get

981
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: a one technique starter off the street right that plays

982
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 1: at the level that he does. You know, we we

983
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: were talking about last night, unsung hero guys of the defense.

984
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: Crawford's a guy. Human logs should be another one, you know,

985
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: the way he's playing. Anthony Brown, Anthony Brown, Jeff Heath.

986
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there's guys that are just playing. Every time

987
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: they're asked to do something, they're coming up with a

988
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: player two. It might not be forty played, but they're

989
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: coming up with four or five plays a game that

990
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: are making the difference in the way this defense is

991
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: why this defense has been consistent all year. That's the

992
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: one thing that's been consistent about this football team. Yeah,

993
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: and speaking to young guys, maybe on the offensive side

994
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: of the ball. You've got a couple tight ends that

995
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: are growing up on the field a little bit. Those

996
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: guys that played, Yeah, that's that's Mickey's right about that,

997
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: none of them. Yeah, Rico Schultz, Jarwin, Yeah, I've been

998
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: waiting for Dalton Schultz to play like this. I really

999
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: have it because you watch him at Stanford. He was

1000
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: a good player at Stanford. I mean you're starting to

1001
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: see like the blocking, the catching, they're running him and routes.

1002
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's he's doing things. You're thinking, Ah,

1003
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: there he is, Yeah, there he is, you know, and hopefully,

1004
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: like Mickey said again that these guys and Garrett sitting

1005
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: the walk off, Hey, these guys are getting the play.

1006
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's the great thing about it is

1007
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: you throw them out there, they get to play there

1008
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: having some success. Rico's blocking the right guy. I mean,

1009
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: you know that's that's Those are good things. Yep. Nate

1010
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: Newton's philosophy, you don't be judging guys until you play them. Yeah,

1011
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: how do you know what young guys can do? If

1012
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: you don't play him, you gotta play them, and if

1013
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna make a mistake, make the mistake playing them

1014
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: not sitting them and then say, oh I need you now. Yeah,

1015
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, I mean think about Jarwin what he did. Yeah,

1016
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: everybody was ready to give up on him. Yeah, and

1017
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he gets a chance to play.

1018
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: He gets a chance to play. And suddenly, now when

1019
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: he catches the ball, it's not getting knocked out. When

1020
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: he catches the ball and takes two steps, somebody's not

1021
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: hitting him and causing a fumble. Right, He's turning and

1022
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: actually running with the ball like he knows what he's doing. Yeah,

1023
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no how how ironic was it though,

1024
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: that he had a great guy, a breakout game for

1025
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: him against a team that tried to poach there then

1026
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: and they're probably sitting there, go see, we knew what

1027
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,479
Speaker 1: we're doing. Well, they trap the Dallas Goddard's player either,

1028
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: but they might not have drafted they might not have

1029
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: drafted Dallas Goddard. Absolutely right, absolutely right, you know. And

1030
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: the thing about Mironelli, you know, he's such a he's

1031
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: a team guy. He learned that in the middle of

1032
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: the military. Right, there's no I think when he came here, oh,

1033
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: no question, he was just the defensive line coach, right, Yeah,

1034
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: um Monnie was, you know, and he didn't want to

1035
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: overstep his bounds. He knew the chain of command. He

1036
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna take over. And even when they kind of

1037
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: kind of move things around, he was like, yeah, but

1038
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: Monnie's still the defensive coordinating right, you know. They had

1039
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: to move him to what was it, defensive consultant or whatever.

1040
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: They kind of pushed him to the side beach duty.

1041
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, but he didn't want to. He didn't want

1042
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: to step on his toes. Like, that's my guy. You know,

1043
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to him. You know, That's just that's

1044
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: that's he is. That's he's always been a chain of

1045
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: command guy. But he's a guy that understands leadership. He

1046
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: understands you know, accountability. You know, that's that's the thing.

1047
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: When you work with a guy like that, or see

1048
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: a guy work, that's that's things you take. That's a

1049
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: great thing about athletics. There's a lot of crummy things

1050
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: about this, but there's a lot of good things too.

1051
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: I don't think we talk about the good things enough,

1052
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: no question. Yeah, all right, as they get back to

1053
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: practice here in an hour or so. Outdoors by the way,

1054
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: outdoors here's your offensive line today. Is it gonna be

1055
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: they were setting it up, Yeah, flaming, flaming a left

1056
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: tackle probably right the practice, we're probably gonna get guard.

1057
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: I hope it instead of not Redman. Yeah, oh it

1058
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: might be. How about this, they want to give him

1059
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: a day? Well, what if it? Yeah, what if it's Williams? Well,

1060
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: I think you want to put you want to put? Uh,

1061
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: you'll probably put Williams on the right side. Okay. If yeah,

1062
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's gonna be a preseason game. Yeah,

1063
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a preseason game. Yeah, lineup out there

1064
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: that Wednesday, No Wednesday. We always look out there where

1065
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: you go. Oh my, looks like the preseason lineup out

1066
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: there today? Jumbo Joe Connors. Yeah, and Connor Waves is

1067
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: gonna get right guard work, and then Collins he'll go

1068
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: out my guy, last man standing. He'll be the last

1069
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: man That's what happens in mid December, and that was

1070
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: all right. Let me ask you guys this. Did you

1071
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: get any did you take any Sean Lee this week? Limited? Okay?

1072
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: All right? Then Tavon Austin maybe limited? Okay, let me

1073
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: ask you this, Mickey, I kind of got to these

1074
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: guys last night. And I'm not trying to put you

1075
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: on the spot here at all. If it comes down

1076
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: to Tabon Austin getting active, do you and do you

1077
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: take Alan Hearns off the field? I mean because if

1078
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: they're using, if they're using which receivers in acts, yeah,

1079
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: if they use if they're using if they're using lance

1080
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: lnor on special teams along with Noah Brown, and they

1081
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: feel good about that because I mean, you think, oh,

1082
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: the switch would be take lance L Noor off. But

1083
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: if he's one of the guys that's help you win

1084
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: games as one of the forty six. Now he's also

1085
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: made some crazy plays as well, you know when you go,

1086
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: oh Lancel Noor. Yeah, I mean I don't think. But

1087
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: Noah Brown to me is active for special teams and

1088
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: he's getting more and more snaps. Yeah yeah, but do

1089
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: you do you do you consider? And I'm sorry, missus Hearns,

1090
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take your son off the field,

1091
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: but I'm just asking a question here now that worries

1092
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: me because of one of my front line of wide

1093
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,479
Speaker 1: receivers gets hurt. Who Who's who's lining up outside? Yeah,

1094
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean the thing is he can't play all positions.

1095
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: There's no questions. You're gonna have to You're gonna have

1096
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: to grab from somewhere else. So you're gonna dress like

1097
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: eight wide receivers. I mean, you're not gonna You're probably

1098
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: gonna go eight offensive linemen. Given the that you're a

1099
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: little banged up, you're assuming assuming Zach if Zach can play. See,

1100
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: this is where Tacco has got to influence somebody here

1101
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: because he's fighting for because he's fighting for forty six,

1102
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: I mean giving up on him, but we'll see if

1103
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: he fights. Yeah, he's gotta fight. He's gotta fight in here.

1104
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: He's got to, you know, find a way. I mean

1105
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: the safety spot. I mean, see when you start getting

1106
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,479
Speaker 1: guys like Sean Lee back and okay, who's gonna sit?

1107
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: Somebody is gonna sit when Sean Lee comes back. Yep,

1108
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: because because Covington already sits. So who is March Lillard

1109
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: gonna sit? He plays special teams? Joe Thomas gonna sit?

1110
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: He plays special teams. We'll find out one of those

1111
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: special teams guys don't have to sit, which one? Well,

1112
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: one of those three? All right, we gotta go sit

1113
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: in on Jason Garrett's press conference here momentarily, carry'll answer

1114
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: that we'll carry live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The

1115
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Speaker 1: break will be coming up after that. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Kim for producing Happy Birthday, Brian, Thank you,

1117
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Speaker 1: Happy Day Birthday, Nicky. Yeah, thank you guys. This has

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