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Speaker 1: And welcome back to Is this a great game or

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Speaker 1: what with the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkchen I'm his son,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Kirkchhin. Dad, I legitimately had to ask you where

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Speaker 1: are you today? You were in a hotel for our

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Speaker 1: last recording. You're in a hotel for this recording. But

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Speaker 1: you're in Bristol both times, just.

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Speaker 2: Two Semond visits.

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Speaker 3: I've been to Bristol three times in a five days span.

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Speaker 3: Don't even ask. I had signed up for other things,

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Speaker 3: charity events, stuff like that, so I had to go

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Speaker 3: here and fly home, go here, fly home, go here,

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Speaker 3: and I'm flying home in the morning. There was no choice.

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Speaker 3: It's all good. I'm in a hotel here in Bristol,

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Speaker 3: all good, doing baseball tonight tonight. It's great, all good.

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Speaker 2: It's such a great time for baseball.

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Speaker 3: Dad.

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Speaker 2: We're into July.

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Speaker 1: Recording on July first, releasing on July second.

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Speaker 2: We made it.

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Speaker 1: We made it into the summer fully and Dad, it's

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Speaker 1: Jeff July brand new haircut. I got rid of all

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Speaker 1: the long hair finally. And the first thing you saw

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Speaker 1: when you saw me, you said.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, all your hair's gone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, your hair looked. Your hair looked good before.

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Speaker 3: Your hair looks better now. I got a haircut yesterday

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Speaker 3: also in my like twelve hours at home, so I

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Speaker 3: checked with Frank from the Elias. It's the first time

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Speaker 3: since nineteen twenty in the Live Ball era that two

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Speaker 3: podcasters who are father and son got their haircut on

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Speaker 3: the same day.

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Speaker 1: Under five foot and seven father son podcasters.

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Speaker 3: Right part our union, Yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: Only in day games as we know, right.

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Speaker 3: And the disparity of hair cut yours, which was a

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Speaker 3: lot compared to mine, is that I don't have much left.

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Speaker 3: Was also the greatest disparity in amount of haircut on

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Speaker 3: a father's son on the same day. Frank has confirmed.

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Speaker 2: That also Dad.

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Speaker 1: We had rich Donnelly on the podcast earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: He was so funny his stories about throwing BP with

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Speaker 1: the All Star Game coming up for the home run derby.

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Speaker 2: That was so so good.

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Speaker 1: His Barry Bond stories when they were both part of

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Speaker 1: the Pirates organization.

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Speaker 2: Wow wow, wow, what a great time with.

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Speaker 3: Him and Jeff. What we're trying to do on this

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Speaker 3: podcast is to discuss things that aren't often discussed. BP

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Speaker 3: pitchers hardly ever discussed, third base coaches hardly ever discussed,

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Speaker 3: and Rich is one of the best of all time

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Speaker 3: at both of those. That's why we had him on.

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Speaker 3: We knew he would have some really fun stories. And Jeff,

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Speaker 3: you said it were on July the first, and that's

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Speaker 3: usually a mile post, like you know, like the All

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Speaker 3: Star break in July the fourth, So they're a bunch

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Speaker 3: of mile posts. We keep in mind, jeb last year,

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Speaker 3: only two teams that were in first place on July

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Speaker 3: the first, the Phillies and the Dodgers, went on to

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Speaker 3: win their division. The other four teams that were in

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Speaker 3: So it's just another beautiful reminder how much how much

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Speaker 3: all the games matter. But the second half can change anything.

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Speaker 3: So if your team is struggling or if your team

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Speaker 3: shape or bad shape on July the first, agree.

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Speaker 1: Right, there's a lot of time to go, so don't

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Speaker 1: think that the season's over before the even the All

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Speaker 1: weekend is fourth of July.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our country.

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Speaker 3: Right, and the team tim today will be the all

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Speaker 3: July fourth, two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, which I will

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Speaker 3: just tease you with what you're going to hear later

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Speaker 3: in the show. And we will be going. I will

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Speaker 3: be taking a couple of days. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: we're going to a lake outside of Atlanta, Mom and

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Speaker 3: as you know, Jeff, I'm not real good on the water.

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Speaker 3: I'm not real good on land either, but I'm really

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Speaker 2: No, no, Dad.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's so funny when we named our son Body,

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Speaker 2: I don't need that good I don't need that.

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Speaker 3: I don't blame you, Jeff. Speaking of water, Jeff, I

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Speaker 3: lost my wallet the other day, misplaced it for three hours.

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Speaker 3: And you know what a terrible feeling that is when

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Speaker 3: got to cancel credit cards, and disaster. Well, I finally

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Speaker 3: I left it in a pair of pants, and I

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Speaker 3: I my wallet was in the washing machine. Intually it

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Speaker 3: came out the wallet. It's a leather wallet. It came

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Speaker 3: out wet, and the bills in there and there wasn't much.

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Speaker 3: They came out mostly unscathed. But most important, my credit

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Speaker 3: cards and my driver's license are plastic. Are fine. So

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Speaker 3: we're okay, and I've got my wallet. But as my

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Speaker 3: that I've I've never used before. I got this a

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Speaker 3: long time ago, but this is my new wall. Stop

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Speaker 3: see it. Oh, for those of us you can't see

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Speaker 3: it at home. It's a baseball wallet, so it is.

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Speaker 1: So it looks like the seams of a baseball and

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Speaker 2: You can go on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Actually, if you don't subscribe to us yet, you should

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Speaker 1: like and subscribe right there, because Dad, that's iconic.

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Speaker 3: That's great, Jeff, Jeff, is it okay for a nearly

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Speaker 3: seventy year old man to be carrying around a wallet

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Speaker 3: that looks like a baseball?

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Speaker 1: When you're Tim Kirkschin, I think it's okay because there's

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Speaker 1: not much love more than baseball. It's like your grand

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Speaker 1: canty is your wife in baseball. Well, we have granite

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't miss this, correct. I'm very exciting

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Speaker 2: Can you show me how you throw your two seamer

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Speaker 2: on your wallet?

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Speaker 3: Jeff? It was so ok wed he gave new meaning

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Speaker 3: to the word money laundering. After I got done to that,

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Speaker 2: That's actually pretty good.

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Speaker 1: You usually have a lot of the same jokes for

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Speaker 1: the past thirty three years of my life.

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Speaker 2: That one was new. That was good. I'm proud of

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Jeff. All Right, So, we got some

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Speaker 3: great viewer mail. This week we get some great We

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Speaker 3: have some real loyal people. So Mike Montero, I made

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Speaker 3: He texted me the other day he said, I can't

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Speaker 3: believe this. I found out what OG meant the same

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Speaker 3: but we talked about the OG last week, which I

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Speaker 3: the original Gangster. I still do not understand that. But

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Speaker 3: we talked about that. Poor pop up didn't understand, and

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Speaker 3: Mike sent me this email saying, hey, I just found

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Speaker 1: And in fact, friend of the show roommate Ben, you

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Speaker 1: remember my time back in Cleveland. Yeaes he listens to

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Speaker 1: every episode, he texted me after that episode dropped. Now

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Speaker 1: I need a team, tim of who your dad thinks

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Speaker 1: are the ogs of their position, because I still don't

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Speaker 1: think he understands, even after you took five minutes to

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Speaker 1: explain it.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't pretend to understand what it means, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: I just know what the letters stand for Original Gangster.

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Speaker 3: So we'll we'll follow Ben's advice. We'll have a Team Tim,

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Speaker 3: the All OG Team Tim. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So to describe it, and I mean, it can be

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Speaker 1: tough because you would automatically think of players who played,

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Speaker 1: you know, one hundred years ago, they're the OG. Is

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Speaker 1: Honus Wagner the OG shortstop, because so.

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Speaker 3: Is the OG short second baseman, the greatest early on

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Speaker 3: second baseman like nap Lejawe who played in the eighteen

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Speaker 3: hundred inch of the nineteen I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If it's that, Dad, or if you can make it

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Speaker 1: the OG of reinventing the position.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: I think we I mean, listen, it's Team Tim. We

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Speaker 1: So, like you could put Cal Ripken Junior as the

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Speaker 1: OG shortstop because he introduced the world of big shortstops, right,

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Speaker 1: like he kind of changed the game, so to speak, right,

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Speaker 1: Or you could pick a great defensive outfield or you

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Speaker 1: Piazza as your OG catcher because he was, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, it's up to you,

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Speaker 3: We need time to think about the All OG Team Tim.

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Speaker 3: I'm on it, Jeff, that'll be great.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the takeaways here on as is a

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Speaker 1: great game? Or what what do you have?

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Speaker 2: Dad?

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Speaker 3: All right? Junior Camonaro the Tampa Bay Rays is the

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Speaker 3: hottest player in the game. At this taping on July

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Speaker 3: the first. He has eight homers in his last seven games,

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Speaker 2: Huge, eighty by one hundred feet.

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Speaker 2: That's so fitting for him. Hey, it's Jeff Kirksin.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump right into the quirk gin Stab, what do

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Speaker 2: you have?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So your boy Kyle Schwarber got to thirty homers

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Speaker 3: in he's the first to thirty homers this year. And

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Speaker 3: this is not a criticism, Jeff, because this is where

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Speaker 3: we are in the game today. He got to thirty

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Speaker 3: homers and he had fifty four RBIs. So that's the

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Speaker 3: fewest RBIs of anybody who once he got to thirty

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Speaker 3: home runs. The previous record, even though it's not really

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Speaker 3: a record, was fifty five by Shohe Otani, So when

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Speaker 3: Otani got to thirty one of those years, he only

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Speaker 3: had fifty five RBIs, Schwarber fifty four. Again, Schwarber is

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Speaker 3: the team leader. He's on base all the time, like

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Speaker 3: all thirty of those home runs seemingly have mattered to

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Speaker 3: the Phillies, and then you're losing a game.

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Speaker 1: It's worth noting the way the game has changed. I

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Speaker 1: mean Otani leading off Schwarber leading off for a lot

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Speaker 1: of these games, so at least one at bat a day. Again,

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Speaker 1: they're coming up with no runners on. Now, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying what you're saying is not right or illegitimate, but

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Speaker 1: something to keep in mind when we talk about RBIs

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Speaker 1: and home runs for leadoff power guys.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely so. The other night, Cameron Cawley, infielder, made his

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Speaker 3: debut major league debut, and it came with the Texas Rangers,

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Speaker 3: and in the game he had a triple which turned

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Speaker 3: out to be a really big, you know, a really

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Speaker 3: big hit in that game. Fourth Ranger ever to have

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Speaker 3: a triple in his major league debut. But the great

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Speaker 3: behind the scenes story was Jeff He got a call

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Speaker 3: from the farm director telling him that he's going to

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Speaker 3: the big leagues. But the call came in at six

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Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning on the phone in his hotel,

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Speaker 3: in Cameron Colley's hotel room. Do you has anyone called

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Speaker 3: you in a hotel room on the hotel phone? When

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Speaker 3: when was the last time?

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Speaker 1: When was the last time anybody got a call on

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Speaker 1: one of those things. I'm surprised those these days, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not much older than players these days. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to say I'm an old head here, but

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Speaker 1: even know how to pick up one of those phones.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's using their.

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Speaker 3: Cell phones right, and but I guess the thinking was that,

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Speaker 3: you know, what if his cell phone is off, what

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Speaker 3: if it's on silent? So the farm director said, well,

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Speaker 3: we can't. We got to get in touch with him

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Speaker 3: now a to give him the good news, but we

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Speaker 3: need him to be in Cleveland so we can play.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's how they did it. And reminded me

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Speaker 3: Jeff of Joey Manessa's who played for the Nationals back

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Speaker 3: in the big leagues now, but his minor league manager

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Speaker 3: knocked on his door at three o'clock in the morning

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Speaker 3: to tell him that he's going to the big leagues

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Speaker 3: for the first time. And Joey, of course, is fast asleep,

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Speaker 3: so he kind of just says, I'm asleep, you know,

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Speaker 3: basically leave me alone, because he had no idea who

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Speaker 3: it was. And then another knock came soon after and

511
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Speaker 3: he said, please, I don't need any towels, So he

512
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Speaker 3: thought it was made delivering towels to his room. Now,

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Speaker 3: what made delivers a towel at three o'clock in the morning,

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Speaker 3: But as it turned out, it was his manager in

515
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Speaker 3: the minor leagues who was telling him, Joey, you got

516
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Speaker 3: to get up. You're going to the big league. So

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Speaker 3: there have been stories like this. I just haven't heard

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Speaker 3: a hotel phone story in quite some time. Okay, really

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Speaker 3: bad stretch here by the Yankees, Jeff. How weird is this?

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Speaker 3: Four consecutive games they got exactly three hits. You know

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Speaker 3: how hard that is to do. So that gave them,

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Speaker 3: Jeff twelve hits during a four game span, which sets

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Speaker 3: a club record. The Yankees had never gone four straight

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Speaker 3: games totally twelve hits. The previous record was thirteen hits. Jeff.

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Speaker 3: Are the nineteen twenty six Yankees, the ruth Gary Yankees?

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Speaker 3: You find that surprising?

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. I love when that those teams come up

528
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Speaker 2: in these snats. It's crazy, right.

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Speaker 3: Belong to Zari was on that there were Hall of

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Speaker 3: famers everywhere there. Okay, all right, you know not how

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Speaker 3: much I love the strikeouts, Jeff, because they're such an

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Speaker 3: important part of the game. I'm not being critical. This

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Speaker 3: is something we've been dealing with for forty years, but especially

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Speaker 3: for the last twenty years. The strikeout rate is continues

535
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Speaker 3: to be on the rise. But before on July the

536
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Speaker 3: first day were taping this, eleven different players had struck

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Speaker 3: out one hundred times already this season. Let's keep in mind, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: the season started a little bit early, so this stat

539
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: is is just a little bit overrated. But the previous

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Speaker 3: record was twenty twenty four, when seven guys had one

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Speaker 3: hundred strikeouts by July the first. This year, we have eleven, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: and by the season's end, we're gonna have one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty guys strikeout. I mean, Jeff, this is just

544
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Speaker 3: the game that we play today, and I'm I'm past

545
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Speaker 3: like saying, what are we doing here? This is what

546
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Speaker 3: the industry has convinced and encourage our players to do.

547
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: Go up there, swing as hard as you can. If

548
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 3: you make contact, you're gonna hit a homer. If you don't,

549
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Speaker 3: you're going to strike out, and we'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: You great it out from the strikeout numbers are insane

551
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Speaker 1: and we just got to live in this space.

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Speaker 2: You remember, remember what you told us about Manny Machado

553
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Speaker 2: and Bryce Harper.

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Speaker 1: They wish they had taken advantage of the pitchers in

555
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Speaker 1: their rookie years and they're.

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Speaker 3: Early twenty twelve. Yeah, when curve balls are throwing seventy

557
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Speaker 3: five miles an hour and fastballs were thrown at eighty

558
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Speaker 3: eight to ninety, Not anymore so, Stephen Kwan of The

559
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Speaker 3: Guardians the other day, Jeff, when twenty five consecutive plate

560
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Speaker 3: appearances without swinging at the first pitch. Now he's a

561
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Speaker 3: very patient hitter, and he's a great contact guy. Does

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Speaker 3: twenty five at bats in a row without swinging at

563
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Speaker 3: the first pitch sound like a lot to you?

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Speaker 2: Not anymore.

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Speaker 1: After I heard Anthony Rizzo, Uh, did you hear what

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Speaker 1: he said about his auto take?

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Speaker 2: No, he said that.

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Speaker 1: For a long period of his career, and when we

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Speaker 1: have him on the podcast, which I'm sure we will

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Speaker 1: at some point, he was auto take at one oh,

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Speaker 1: one oh count, automatically taking. Now, I know you're talking

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Speaker 1: about you know an oo count right, no count, a

573
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Speaker 1: totally different world. But he was saying one o count,

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Speaker 1: I'm auto take every single time. And in fact, I

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Speaker 1: can't remember who the manager was the opposing manager when

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Speaker 1: he took on one oh and they were saying auto

577
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Speaker 1: take over there, aren't you? Because he said, I mean

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Speaker 1: the advantage of being two to oh or you're one

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Speaker 1: on one, which.

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Speaker 2: Is like kind of like a fresh why not. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you have to ask her about that when we have

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Speaker 2: him on the pod, right.

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Speaker 3: So Kurtin Suzuki, who's the Angels manager now. But when

584
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Speaker 3: he was a player, and he was a good player

585
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Speaker 3: for the Nationals, he took the first pitch. I tracked

586
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Speaker 3: this with his help, but I tracked this. He took

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Speaker 3: the first pitch at one hundred and thirteen consecutive plate appearances,

588
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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirteen jet and I said, I said,

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Speaker 3: why would you do that? And he goes, well, first off,

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Speaker 3: I'm comfortable hitting behind in the count. You have to

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Speaker 3: be if you're going to take strike one a bunch

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Speaker 3: of times. And he said, and I want to see

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Speaker 3: what the pitcher has. I'm just wondering. You know, this

594
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Speaker 3: was at least this was probably ten years ago that

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Speaker 3: he did this. But the question is, can you afford

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Speaker 3: with the stuff that you see today to get behind

597
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Speaker 3: OH one all the time? I'm not sure it works

598
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Speaker 3: these days. Twenty five I think is a lot today

599
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Speaker 3: where sometimes you just got to go up there saying

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Speaker 3: if I see a first pitch fastball, in the spot

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Speaker 3: I can hit it. I better because otherwise this guy's

602
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Speaker 3: got three pigeons he can strike me out with.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, when Jacob Mazarowski's throwing one hundred and three

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Speaker 1: point five miles per hour as a starter, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If you can risk taking an O one. You know

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Speaker 2: that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: All right. You know how much I love names, But

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Speaker 3: apparently everyone loves names now, Jeff, because the Max Monsey

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Speaker 3: thing went. I must have been I must have gotten

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Speaker 3: fifty emails from people saying, I'm sure you recognize this.

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Speaker 3: But the other night Max Mounsey hit hit seventh in

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Speaker 3: the order for the Dodgers, playing third base, and in

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Speaker 3: the same game, Max Monsey of the A's hit seventh

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Speaker 3: in the order playing third base. So we not only

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Speaker 3: do we have Max Munsey against Max Munsey playing the

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Speaker 3: same position, they were hitting the same spot in the order.

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Speaker 3: Alex Gonzalez the two shortstops. This is right, you know,

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Speaker 3: this is twenty five or so years ago. Did this

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Speaker 3: hit with the same name, hit the same spot in

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Speaker 3: the order and both played shortstop in that game? And

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Speaker 3: of course, as we explained last year on the Pod,

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Speaker 3: Bobby Jones faced Bobby Jones. I think it's Bobby M.

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Speaker 3: Jones against Bobby J. Jones. But they started against each

624
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Speaker 3: other and so and it was a nationally game, so

625
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: at the time both were hitting ninth. So those those

626
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: are apparently the only times that it's happened that guys

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Speaker 3: with corresponding same name, it played the same position, hit

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Speaker 3: the same spot in the order. The difference is what

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Speaker 3: is the other distinction of the Max Munsey's job. You

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Speaker 3: better remember this. They share the same birthday's right. Yeah, seriously,

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Speaker 3: I am the son of a mathematician who specialty was

632
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Speaker 3: probability and statistics. How do you explain two guys with

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Speaker 3: a rather unusual name, Max Munsey could share the same

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Speaker 3: birthday like ten years apart. Doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: You know, a little background on how the podcast gets recorded.

636
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Speaker 1: Some days with a newborn in our household. Every once

637
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Speaker 1: in a while, my daughter McKinley Hope likes to hide

638
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: out in my office watching a movie on my phone.

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Speaker 2: And Dad, you said the B word.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if if you caught her jumping in,

641
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Speaker 1: but the B word birthday is her favorite word in

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Speaker 1: the entire world. So she said, well, my birthday's coming up,

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Speaker 1: and I'm having a princess birthday, right, can they now

644
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Speaker 1: she's quiet and shy, because.

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Speaker 3: Good, well, we've got some birthdays coming up, jeb on

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Speaker 3: this date in baseball history, July second, But we're gonna

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Speaker 3: start July second, nineteen sixty three. This is the famous

648
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Speaker 3: game when Warren Spawn faced Juan Marischal and they pitched

649
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Speaker 3: fifteen scoreless innings each of them, and the game was

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Speaker 3: decided when Willie Mays and a homer off of Warren

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Speaker 3: Spawn to win the game. And let's see how much

652
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: you remember how many extra inning homers did Willie Mays hit.

653
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: We talked about this last week, remember most twenty one

654
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: or something, so this was one of twenty two. So

655
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: they asked Marechale years later like what was behind that?

656
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: And he looked at his manager and said, I'm not

657
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: coming out of the game until that guy comes out

658
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: of the game. Because Mareschale was twenty five years old

659
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: and Warren Spahn was forty two years old and he

660
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: pitched fifteen shutout innings against the Giants. So when I

661
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: tell you that Warren Spawn is arguably the greatest left

662
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: hander ever and maybe the most durable pitcher ever, does

663
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 3: that not sum it up? Forty two years old, fifteen

664
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 3: shutout innings in a game and then finally loses into

665
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: sixteenth amazing, right.

666
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he well, he had to prove a point

667
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: there that the old guy still got it right.

668
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: Right.

669
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: He was definitely rolling on some adrenaline at that point, right, So.

670
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: I'll never forget this. At Barno Perez, our dear friend,

671
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: the best teammate in the world. He was, he had

672
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: his dad. I was sitting next to Eddie, I don't

673
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: know where he was, not important, and he was talking

674
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: to his dad and he put put the phone up

675
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: to me and said, say hi to my dad. So now,

676
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: of course I'm talking to Tony Perez, hall of Famer,

677
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 3: which is just still such a thrill for me after

678
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: all these years that you know, I'm talking to a

679
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer, like out of nowhere. And then Edvardo

680
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: says to his dad, give the phone to the guy

681
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: next to you, And the guy next to him was

682
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: Juan Marischale. So now I'm talking to Wan Marrischell again.

683
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: I've talked to Juan Marischelle many times, Jeff, but still

684
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: a random phone call. You know, usually you hand the

685
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: phone to you know, to mom or to Kelly. He

686
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: talked to them for a minute. No, we're handing the

687
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: phone to Juan Marischale so I could say ay to him.

688
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: Pretty cool.

689
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Huh, that is such a cool moment for you. I'm

690
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: sure you got full body.

691
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: Chills in that moment. Yeah, to a lot of Hall

692
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: of famers. You still you still get still on.

693
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: Marishal Yeah, pretty cool. Okay, Jeff, this date in nineteen

694
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: o three. This is a really tragic story. But Ed

695
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: Delahanty was on a team train and for some reason

696
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: or not sure exactly what happened, but they kind of

697
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: was a team train. They kind of kicked him off

698
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: the train and he started to walk to the next destination.

699
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: And this is terrible. He walked over a bridge that

700
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: went over Niagara Falls and he fell off the bridge

701
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: and was killed. And he had he'd been in the

702
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 3: league for a bunch of years and had three forty

703
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 3: six career average, but he died when he fell off

704
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: a bridge when they took him off the train like

705
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: at night. I mean, how weird is that. This is

706
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: a famous story, but it's and I don't want to

707
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: go deep into it because I don't know all the details,

708
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 3: but pretty bizarre.

709
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to get And I'm not trying

710
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: to be funny, but that sounds like the sort of

711
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: like a true crime podcast or something to figure out

712
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: what happened.

713
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

714
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: So, Jeff, guess who was born on this date in

715
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Speaker 3: nineteen sixty four. All I can tell you, Jeff is

716
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: he is. Do you know the answer?

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00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: I think I know the answer because I keep a record, Dad.

718
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this me of every

719
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: single one of our guests birthdays.

720
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Speaker 2: So if I have a.

721
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: Social media post I need to put up on a

722
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: certain day and I say, oh my gosh, it's Buck

723
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Showalter's birthday.

724
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: Today? Is Steve sparks birthday? Right right?

725
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Happy birthday is Steve Sparks. Boy. He has made

726
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: us laugh and taught us so much the last two

727
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: years on the podcast. So happy birthday to Steve Sparks,

728
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: who has been so much fun to have on and

729
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: he is a great broadcaster and a good Major league pitcher.

730
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: He was born on this date in nineteen sixty four.

731
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 3: And so what the Ozzi and Jose Kansenko, the Canseco twins,

732
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: were born on this date. And our friend Dan Shaughtsey.

733
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: He always used to joke, since they were twins and

734
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: one Jose was a great, great player, Ozzie not as

735
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 3: good as his brother. That Dan always suggested that they

736
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: should just switch uniform numbers so Jose could bat twice

737
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 3: every die batters instead of just once. He would replace

738
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: his brother. Needless to say, that never quite happens.

739
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's interesting, Dad, this is a Steve

740
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: Sparks note nineteen sixty four.

741
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: Jose Canseco is six foot four.

742
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: There we go. How about that?

743
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: I actually googled you.

744
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: Had lived, that you had lived that whole thing.

745
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 1: Well, okay, I'll be honest. I googled Steve Sparks height

746
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: because I wanted him to be sixty four.

747
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: But I knew he you know, he's a pitcher, but

748
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: I knew he wasn't the.

749
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: Tallest pitcher in the league, right, saw he was, you know,

750
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: just under six feet And then jose Canseco you came

751
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: up with that birthday and I googled his height in

752
00:38:59,280 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: six foot four.

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00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: There we are, right, that's pretty good, not bad, SEF.

754
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: Sparks. Call me Jeff Sparks for thinking of that.

755
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: All right, very good? Jeff, and last one, I'm going

756
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: to put you on the spot. On this date in

757
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, Clayton Kershaw recorded strikeout number three thousand.

758
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 3: So what is the anagram one more time for Clayton

759
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: Kershaw's name?

760
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: La King wants y No, not enough.

761
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: Since it's a strikeout, Jeff, what does he want? He

762
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 3: wants to get number K right, So it's La Si

763
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: hero wants kka. That is an anagram of Clayton Kershaw.

764
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: And as I told you way too many times, I

765
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: figured that out on a three hour trip in a

766
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 3: middle seat on United Airlines. When I got Yeah, it

767
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: was one of the worst trips of my life. And

768
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: I was so tired and so bored. I didn't know

769
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: what to do. So I did just said, all right,

770
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: let's see what we can come up with Clayton Kershaw's name.

771
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: So that's what happened on this date in baseball history.

772
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Speaker 1: Well, Dad, let's go to alpha best. We count down

773
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: or count up or whatever you want to say. Sing

774
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: up the alphabet best player at each last name, letter, pitcher,

775
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: and batter. And today we're on Oh, and I'm wondering

776
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: how this is gonna go. Let's start with you want

777
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: to start with pitcher or batter?

778
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: You say, we always start in one place, but this

779
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: is different.

780
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 3: There's only one place to start here in that show.

781
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: Hey Otani, Now what are we gonna do with him?

782
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: Are we gonna make him the picture? Are we going

783
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 3: to make him the hitter? Are we going to make

784
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: him both? So since this is I invented this game,

785
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: I am making a rule league. Mike Sure may have

786
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: to step in here. I have a feeling. I know

787
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 3: what Mike Sure will say, but I'm gonna I'm gonna

788
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: make mel Ott as our hitter. Okay. And that's not

789
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: to say that Joey O'tani doesn't belong in here as

790
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: a hitter, because any day now he's going to hit

791
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: home run number three hundred of his career. But Melott

792
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: was a great player, and I picked Melott over David Ortiz,

793
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: which was, I don't want to say it was a

794
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: really difficult decision. But Mellott was a very underrated player.

795
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: I had a three to zero four career average, five

796
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: hundred and eleven homers, eighteen hundred and sixty RBIs, and

797
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: he was only five foot nine, which I found really interesting.

798
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 3: He's in the all short team. That's five under five ten.

799
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: He's one of the best players on that team. Led

800
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: the league in homers six different times. And Jeff, he

801
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: hit more homers at the Polo Grounds three hundred and

802
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: twenty three than anybody hit in any single ballpark in

803
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: Major League history. Pretty cool, huh?

804
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: And wait, he has the most home runs in one ballpark. Yes,

805
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: in any ballpark, in any singular ballpark, is what you're saying, right.

806
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: Because that was his home park he played as an

807
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: essentially his entire career.

808
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: I would think Barry Bonds I played most of his career.

809
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Barry Bonds played a lot of years in Pittsburgh,

810
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: That's true.

811
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: Good point, right, And a lot of homers there too, right,

812
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, good point.

813
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: Very interesting. Okay, So our O pitcher is show, Hey Otani.

814
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: You gotta have Otani somewhere in the O's there's no

815
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame pitcher whose last name begins with oh

816
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: al orth had he won like two hundred games as

817
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: a picture. But we're gonna have Otani on this because

818
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: it would be blasphemous to do the oh, then the

819
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 3: letter oh and not have Otani. And if anyone wants

820
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: Otani is both the hitter and the picture. Okay with me,

821
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: but this is where I'm going. Mel Odd had a

822
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: war of one hundred and ten point seven. Mel Odd

823
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: was a vastly underrated player, and because he never won

824
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: an MVP or anything like that, people look at him.

825
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: How great was he? He was great, trust me. But

826
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: Otani's been amazing as a pitcher, so he is our

827
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: O pictuer. You agree with what I did here, Jeff.

828
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: I think it was definitely a one to manage with

829
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: the two o's and having a two way player. And

830
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm glad, respectfully that you didn't just say and our

831
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: O is show. Hey O Tani both pitcher and batter.

832
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: I think you did a really good job of managing it.

833
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: But I mean you might get killed in the comments.

834
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: We never know. We never know. That's kind of the.

835
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 3: Way, Jeff. It's okay because we say this every week

836
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: on this show. Jeff. Just because I'm picking these it

837
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: doesn't make it the correct answer or the right answer.

838
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 3: It's it's my answer, and we're very interested in what

839
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: your answer is. Because baseball is full of debates and

840
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 3: they are fun debates to have. There should be never

841
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: be any anger about is mel ott or show, Hey

842
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: Otani the o hitter. My goodness, we can't be can't

843
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: get any less important ultimately than that on a Dicky

844
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: Little podcast.

845
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: All right, Dad, three cards not in the bathroom, but

846
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: in fact I have the three cards since you're traveling,

847
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: and Dad, I broke out, ah, out of my two

848
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: thousand and one Tops Complete Major Baseball cards celebrating fifty

849
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: years of Tops Baseball.

850
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: In fact, I had.

851
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: This sealed for years because I thought about just keeping

852
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: it sealed and maybe seeing if I mean it's twenty

853
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: five years last year or this year, I should say

854
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: so twenty five years ago.

855
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I'm gonna open it up right now, Dad,

856
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull three cards, one at a time.

857
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: Are you ready? Okay?

858
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: Oh, we haven't done this well, I mean, of course

859
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: we've pulled players who became managers. But this is a

860
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: manager's card of Tony LaRussa.

861
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: Stupid me.

862
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize I would have manager cards in

863
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: this set.

864
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I've known Tony Russa for almost fifty years,

865
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: and let's be clear, he is one of the best

866
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: managers in Major League history. I'm not sure I've ever

867
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: met a more intense manager than Tony Jeff. Every single

868
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: time I went to see him, I would always just say,

869
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: you know, see him for the first time that day, Tony,

870
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: how are you? And he would like routinely say, well,

871
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you in three and a half hours, or

872
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: I'll tell you after the game's over, because that will

873
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 3: tell how he is doing. If they won, he'll be

874
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: doing great. If they lost, he will not be feeling

875
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: so well. This spring, Jef, I went to Arizona, of course,

876
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: for spring training, and I wander into the the press

877
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: box in glen Wood and that's where the White Sox

878
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: and the Dodgers train and I walk in and Tony's

879
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 3: sitting alone in a room watching a spring training game

880
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: because he's a consultant and a senior advisor for the

881
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: White Sox. And I'm watching the game with him for

882
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: like three innings, and every single time the White Sox

883
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: did something good, Tony would go like this, yes, like that,

884
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: And if they did so I think poorly, he would

885
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: go god like that. And I'm thinking, this is an

886
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: exhibition game. It really don't care who wins or loses.

887
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: But he did, and that's who Tony Larus is not.

888
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: Tony is a very intense guy, but in a very

889
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: good way. And I've always loved being around him because

890
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: he's taught me an awful lot about playing baseball.

891
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm searching through another part of the alphabet.

892
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I picked a Vernon Wells card.

893
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: Dad Vernon yeh, Vernon Wells was a very good player,

894
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: as we know for the Blue Jays, center fielder hit

895
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 3: with power. But I know this is this is really

896
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: ridiculous to be I don't have much else on Vernon

897
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 3: Wells other than he was a really good player. But

898
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 3: I used to play in a rec basketball league and

899
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: I played against his father. His father was in the

900
00:46:53,960 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 3: rec basketball league and but before before his son became

901
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: a major league star. So when Bernard Wells makes it

902
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: to the big leagues, I run into him a bunch

903
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 3: of times, and there's his dad, and I'm thinking, oh

904
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: my god, I played basketball against you in a summer

905
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 3: league where a winter league in Texas. And he's also

906
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: his dad is also like a great artist, like he

907
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: can do some amazing things of pictures and paintings and

908
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: everything else. So his dad is really talented and his

909
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: dad was a good basketball player. He and I, well

910
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: I didn't exactly cover him. He's way bigger than me,

911
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: but we went out it a few times and his

912
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: dad was a very intense basketball player in a winter

913
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 3: league in Texas. Is you know, is in his thirties

914
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 3: or forties or whatever. It was great.

915
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, how beautiful?

916
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: All right, dad, my final card, I'm gonna pull out

917
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Tim Belcher.

918
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Tim Belcher was a really good pitcher for several

919
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: teams for quite some time and one of the real

920
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: stand up guys. He always he was a very very

921
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: emotional guy. I had somebody tell me once I think

922
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: I've got this right that Tim Belcher was the angriest

923
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: picture he's ever seen. Like when things didn't go wrong,

924
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 3: he took it personally and it really bothered him. But

925
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: he was always there to face the media afterwards because

926
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: that's what a pro he was and a stand up

927
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 3: guy that he was. But one time, like I think

928
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: he was so angry after a game that what he

929
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: did was he put a wire up Jeff in front

930
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: of his locker and wrote out the answers to all

931
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 3: the questions that the media was going to ask him,

932
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: Like you know what happened in the third inning, and

933
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: he would write, I made a bad pitch, you know,

934
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: just so and so in the third inning. That's a

935
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: slider in. I can't leave it there. So he wrote

936
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 3: out all the answers to the questions so guys would

937
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: have quotes from the losing picture the next day. But

938
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: he just he was just so upset with the way

939
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: he pitched. For once, he decided I'd better not stand

940
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 3: in front of my locker because I might get so

941
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: angry it's going to make me and my team look terrible.

942
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: So I always love Tim Belcher for being such a

943
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: stand up guy and being there for when he was needed.

944
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: Incredible, incredible. All right, Dad, Well we said it at

945
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: the top. You've got a team Tim for two fifty

946
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: America's birthday. But I'm a little curious as to how

947
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: you're going to make two. Is it two fifty based?

948
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: Explain?

949
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's two fifty based. And get this, Jeff, this

950
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: is how I don't want to say clever because that

951
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 3: implies I'm clever. But this is how clever our listeners

952
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: and our viewers are.

953
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: J W.

954
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: Malpis wrote in I think that's how you pronounced his

955
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 3: last name m U LPAs and he said, Tim, I've

956
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: got a great team. Tim, for you use two fifty,

957
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: the number two fifty that to correspond with each player

958
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: at each position. And I had already done it the

959
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: day before. So one day after I had completed my list,

960
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 3: I thought I had completed the list, he sent me

961
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: his list, and I must say I stole a couple

962
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: of things from him, but I'll go through it. But JW,

963
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 3: you did a great job. I think yours was better

964
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: than mine. But this is what I finished with. Our

965
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: catcher is Eric Kratz, who weighs two hundred and fifty pounds. Okay, okay,

966
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: every right, And there were a lot of guys who

967
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: weighed exactly two hundred and fifty pounds. So Eric Kratz

968
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: is our catcher. Travis Hafner is our first baseman. He

969
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 3: hit two hundred and fifty doubles. And you know my

970
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: favorite Travis Hafner story. He was valedictorian at his high

971
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: school in the Dakota's And I said, Travis, that is

972
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: really impressive. You spoke at graduation you are a valedictorian.

973
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: He looked at me and he said, well, we only

974
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: had eight kids. At our senior class, he said, he said,

975
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: we had four boys and four girls. He said, they

976
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: only be easier than being the valedictorian was getting a

977
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 3: date with the senior prov because there were only eight people,

978
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: four girls and four boys. Yes, crazy, okay. Our second

979
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: basement was Harold is Harold Reynolds who stole two hundred

980
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: and fifty basis. This seems these are exact numbers. So

981
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 3: that's what I went through. Let's find all the two

982
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: fifties and correspond the so jep. I have an outdated database,

983
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: but I couldn't find anyone with two hundred and fifty homers.

984
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: Maybe someone did it last year. My database is outdated.

985
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: But just when I was thinking, I don't think I

986
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: have a third baseman on July thirtieth. On June thirtieth,

987
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: so a couple of nights ago, Raphael Devers hit his

988
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: two hundred and fiftieth home run. How about that? So

989
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: I'm searching for a homer, I would jep ye on

990
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 3: the morning this morning. I woke up this morning, July

991
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 3: the first, and I've gone to bed early and everything.

992
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: I said, Please, Rafael Devers, I know you have two

993
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 3: hundred and forty nine homers. If you hit one tonight

994
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 3: on June thirty, you will be my third basement. We're

995
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 3: going to use him at third with two hundred and

996
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: fifty homers, and lo and behold he hit a homer.

997
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: He gave him two fifty exactly. How great is that?

998
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: It saved your butt, Dad, for sure, that's perfect.

999
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: I had an I had Tim Naring with some two

1000
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: hundred and fifties, but Rafael, we have to have someone

1001
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 3: with two hundred and fifty homers. I couldn't find anyone

1002
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: until the morning of July the first, and there it is. Jeff.

1003
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how happy that made me. I

1004
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 3: like closed my eyes and said a little prayer. Please

1005
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: Devers hit a homer. He did. It was so great. Okay,

1006
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 3: our shortstop is Rafael. For Kyl was a good player,

1007
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 3: but he made two hundred and fifty errors. So again, Jeff,

1008
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: there's a different category for all two fifties. I've got

1009
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 3: weight doubles, steals homer's errors. A bunch of guys, Jeff

1010
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: hit two fifty for an average Jimmy Winn, A bunch

1011
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: of guys did. But I picked Bo Jackson because he

1012
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 3: hit exactly two fifty so he's our first outfielder. Bo Jackson.

1013
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: We left him off one list before Jeff, so I had.

1014
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: To put him on the fifty. That's great, all right.

1015
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: Chuck Klein had two hundred and fifty hits in the

1016
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: nineteen thirty season, so he's one of our outfields. Rogers

1017
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 3: hornsteab by Way also had two hundred and fifty hits

1018
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: in the nineteen twenty two season. I could have put

1019
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 3: him at second base, but I left it for Harold

1020
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: Reynolds and Liman Bossock. This is Sad. Liman Bostock finished

1021
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: his career with two hundred and fifty RBIs and you

1022
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: know he was shot and killed in the middle of

1023
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 3: a baseball season Gary, Indiana. And what a terrible story

1024
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: that is. There's no telling where his career was at

1025
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: would have ended, but it ended with two hundred and

1026
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: fifty RBIs. Pitchers first one where Big Ed Walsh and

1027
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: Sad Sam Jones both finished with two hundred and fifty

1028
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: complete games. How about that, Jeff. Two guys who are

1029
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 3: known by three names, Sad Sam Jones and Ed Walsh.

1030
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 3: Is usually Ed Walsh, but his nickname was Big Ed Walsh,

1031
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 3: and they both finished with two hundred and fifty complete games.

1032
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 3: Mickey Lolich and Justin Berlander, both pitching for the Tigers

1033
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 3: at the time, both struck out two hundred and fifty

1034
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: batters in a season, and Burt Blyleven our finest final

1035
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 3: one one of our favorite guys ever, he lost two

1036
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty games in his career. So that is

1037
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: the team, Tim, the all too point fifty. We have

1038
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: like twelve players mentioned here all of the two fifty

1039
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 3: distinction in their careers.

1040
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: Dad, a great way to enter America's two hundred and

1041
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: fiftieth annivers Street with that team, Tim, And I know

1042
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: you're super busy. I hope you have an incredible Fourth

1043
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: of July to everybody. I hope you celebrate safely. Of course,

1044
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: take ride share, you know, be careful if you're firing

1045
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: fireworks or whatever. Like I know, Dad, that's not really

1046
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: your style, but just be careful out there.

1047
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be careful. I'm not gonna go water skiing.

1048
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 3: And by the way, I'm sorry, it's skiing. If you

1049
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 3: say I'm going skiing, that implies your skiing on the snow. Okay,

1050
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 3: snow skiing is redundant. You are skiing or you are

1051
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 3: water skiing. So I can say this with great certainty.

1052
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 3: I will not be water skiing during July. The fourth,

1053
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 3: am Am, I is this too much of a pet peeve?

1054
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: Am I a pedantic little twit for bringing this up.

1055
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: That's saying snow skiing is redundant.

1056
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: Dad.

1057
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: You are a pedantic little twit, but you aren't wrong here.

1058
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 2: It is redundant for sure.

1059
00:55:59,560 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: Dad.

1060
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: On that note, Happy fourth of July, everybody. Thank you

1061
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: so much for listening, and as always, thanks for being

1062
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: a part of our family.