WEBVTT - Rooting for Everyone Black in the Primaries ft. Joy Reid 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.280 Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:11.880 Reison Choice Media. Welcome home, y'all in Nashville, Tennessee. This 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:15.400 is episode of Native lampod where we give you our 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.960 breakdown of all things politics and culture. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.560 I am your host, Angela Rye, with two very special 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:22.280 guest hosts, y'all. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.400 They're family to us, to this show, to me a 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:27.479 little bias, but they are some of my favorites. We 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:32.080 have Garrison Hayes. He is a multimedia content creator, a journalist. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:34.600 He's a retired preacher. We're gonna talk about that next time. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:35.080 Soon. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.239 He will join me and my good sister who I'm 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.440 about to introduce. She's the host of joy Read, the 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.839 Joyread Show and she's killing it. Joy and Reid is 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.920 joining us, and we welcome Garrison to the side of 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:47.919 the cussing Christians. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:48.479 Welcome home. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:51.640 Should I start cussing? 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:52.720 Should I? I mean? 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:53.200 You can wait? 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:53.920 You can do it today? 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:55.080 You know what? 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:57.000 Out I'm just kidding. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.080 We do bleep on the show. 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.200 We have to, so, y'all, I'm gonna get into this 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.800 rundown really quick. So with there's a protester who took 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.920 over a press conference recently that was being held by 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.440 the Madison, Wisconsin police chief following the shooting death of 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:16.280 thirty eight year old Corey Ruiz. Republican Representative Nancy Mace, 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.440 who I cannot wait for her to return to the 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.759 private sector because she is still reaking havoc in hell 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:25.440 on our community. She's introduced a resolution to race based caucuses, 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:29.000 taking aim at the Congressional Black Caucus. The Senate confirmed 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.400 Jay Clayton as the D and I chief, replacing Tolcy Gabbert. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.039 Of course, but does he believe that Joe Biden won 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:36.759 the election in twenty twenty Why are we still talking 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.440 about this twenty twenty six? Recently, Democrats make the historic 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.679 decision to make South Carolina their first in the nation 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.080 primary for twenty twenty eight? 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:46.200 Is this good for the blacks? 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.080 Joy read We gonna find out. Facts in fiction continue 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.520 to swirl as tensions increasing. The Nolan Wells case a 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.080 phone call his alleged friends made to Sito on the 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.440 day of his disappearances, raising a lot of questions, and 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.880 we have isolated audio for that. We're going to talk 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.360 about all of that and so much more on this 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:10.520 episode of Native lampod Welcome home, y'all. All right, so 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:14.320 now it's time for your situational awareness. First up, we 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:18.200 are going to talk about this tragic shooting in Madison, Wisconsin. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:23.079 Thirty eight year old Corey Ruiz was the subject of 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.240 a police shooting. Of course, there's now an independent investigation going, 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:30.960 but a police chief, the police chief, John Patterson, addressed 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.640 a press conference, and there was a protester that was like, 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.440 not on my watch, I'm reclaiming my time in this narrative. 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:39.799 Let's go ahead and roll that clip. 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.320 The Finnis of trust in the city right now did 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:43.880 not start. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:45.840 Well, we can to shut this down. You can stop 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.840 talking because we don't want to hear anything you've been saying. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:50.839 You're going to say the same thing you all say 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.760 every time a black body gets shot down in this city. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:55.200 This is a corrupt city. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:55.959 That's right. 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.600 Have no fear the anti Zionist here. 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.400 Do you understand me? Won't be able to talk today 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.040 because I'm gonna keep talking because I was born to 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.959 talk my talk and walk my walk to I told 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.360 these young people back here on our way here that 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.960 we have the power, not that badge, not that weapon. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.080 We have the power. The city of Madison is corrupt, 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.960 from the DA to the to the what's the name 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.800 of us, the Department of Independent Monitorings. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.320 We don't want any any of that talk. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.120 You've ain't given us this speech with you'll deliver justice. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.800 Oh we've seen the cameras. We've seen it was a 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.960 knife in this young man's hand. We don't want to 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.360 hear that today. We didn't want to hear it when 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.520 they put their neck on George Floyd's neck. We don't 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.000 their foot on George Floyd's neck, and we don't want 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.080 to hear it today. That's the What do you have 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.080 to say about that? Oh, you don't get to talk. 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:48.800 I said. 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.200 That, give me this microphone, didn't excuse me. 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.080 That's right. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:03.760 All to all people, zero power to zionists, zero power 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.280 to capitalists, zero power to colonialism. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:08.840 Shout out to Carlos. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.920 Yeah it's my press conference now, yeah. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's that's strong man. That's 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:16.320 strong to. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.960 Be a member of a tap I it is all 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.080 no all power to all people. 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.000 Oh okay, power to all people? 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.520 Okay, can we get him on the ballot for twenty 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:27.960 twenty eight? 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:29.400 I think I found by President. 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.720 I finally found my candidate. I'm excited get him to 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:33.520 South Carolina. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:38.040 They have been protesting like consistently about this shooting death, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.800 and as a result of that, there's an independent investigation. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.120 They're now investigating it as a homicide. I think what's 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.200 unfortunate here is so often we have to do so 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.719 much just to be treated as human. And I think 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.280 you saw some of that pain and frustration in his 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.560 remarks because powerful we laughed a little bit, but we 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.480 also understand that, well, we don't know how we would respond. Yeah, 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:58.960 we're there with them in Madison. 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.919 Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's matter. But you know the 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.080 thing that always stands out to me when you google 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.600 Corey Ruiz and you're trying to find information about this, 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.280 one of the first things that comes up is an 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.560 article about this person's past history with the police, and 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:17.440 these efforts to discredit and besmirch and change the narrative 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.320 without answering the central question about whether or not this 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.839 was justified. And obviously the community and those of us 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.160 who've seen the video say no, this was not justified 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.000 at all. This was wrong, and so that outrage is 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:33.640 incredibly justified, right, that outrage is necessary, and hopefully it 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.279 awakens outrage and other people. 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.719 Yeah, well, speaking of outrage and outrages, let's go ahead 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.080 and tap Nancy Mason because she cannot help herself. She 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.560 is still on BS because she doesn't know what else 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:48.400 to do, and as she finds her exit ramp from Congress, 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:53.400 she has introduced House Resolution fourteen fifty four because she 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:58.160 does not believe there should be any race based caucuses. Y'all, 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.520 I don't understand what their infatuation is with this. I 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.600 can think of a gazillion caucuses I would like to 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:09.080 see go Freedom Caucus, TEA Party Caucus, KKK Caucus, like 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.520 they can go, But why are they targeting these Like 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.800 the fact that she's like, let me find an on 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.760 ramp with the Committee on House Administration to revoke and 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.760 prevent the registration of cmos that's a congressional member organization. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:24.200 Y'all know. 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.520 I take this personally because I am a former Congressional 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.160 Black Caucus ED super irritated by this, because what this 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:35.160 does is it would essentially defund like staffing capabilities. 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.760 Members would no longer pay dues to these organizations. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.920 And while some people at home can say, well, they 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.440 can still meet and figure out an agenda. Well, what 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.920 staff is going to be in place to move forward 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:46.880 with an agenda? Somebody else might say, why are you 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.640 giving this any time? Well, I would not take it 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.640 seriously if they didn't defund DEI and if they didn't 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.080 ban our textbooks and other books. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.360 So, y'all, I gotta take this real serious, which y'all. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.280 Think, yeah, And I think that I have to blame 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.200 the Supreme Court for this, because, you know, by destroying 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:06.000 affirmative action, ending affirmative action and the attacks on DEI 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.640 sort of opening up this idea that there can't be 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:13.000 any race based solutions unless they are focused on enhancing 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.680 the power and prestige and opportunities for white people. Essentially, 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.360 what we're seeing in the United States is that white 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:23.280 Christian conservatives are being created as the only protected class 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.880 and every other protected class is being wiped out. This 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.920 may not seem like it matters to the average person, 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.720 but if you can't have a black caucus, a congressional 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.640 black caucus, you soon won't be able to have a 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.880 black interest organization at your high school or college. You 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.640 won't be able to have a black interest organization or club. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.640 That's funded and that operates at your university. This is 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.880 where this is going, this war on us and of 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.720 course on all people of color, because she wants the 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.720 Asian Caucus, Thispanic Caucus, all of it to go away. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.360 Is all about saying we can't organize amongst ourselves. Only 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.800 white Americans can be protected by the federal government. 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:59.720 And I think this is the other prior so y'all. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.120 At the end of her statement where she announces this 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.320 resolution because it's so important to her, she says, we 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.960 represent all of our constituents, not just the ones who 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.239 look like us. If you do not agree, you should 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.600 not be serving in Congress. It is time to end 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:17.480 federally sanctioned discrimination in this institution. And for me, I'm 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:21.040 just like you know, this actually isn't discrimination. To gather 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.080 with like minded people who have similar districts and similar values. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.880 We have always called the CBC the conscience of the Congress, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.480 and it's interesting to me that she doesn't understand how 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.240 the conscience of the Congress moves the needle on policy 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:39.200 for poor white people, for poor indigenous folks, like there's 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.720 a reason why there's a tricoccus, and they find things 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.120 some policy issues to work on together. But I also 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.719 will say family that this is why I also think 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.199 it's very mission critical that we're not always like, well, 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.200 this is irrelevant and why are we doing this and 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.960 blah blah blah. Garrison and I are in Nashville right now, 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.199 his lovely bride win in the world out from the 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.000 National Virus Nociation Young Lawyer's Division just a few days ago, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.480 and last year joy I decided I was like, Okay, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.080 I'm going to come back home. It's the one hundredth 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.280 anniversary of the National Bar. Instead of me criticizing on 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.640 the sidelines, I'm going to get back engage. These are 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.720 the things we have to do to add value to 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.160 our orgs and bring our own gifts to the table. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.600 If we just are on the sidelines like oh it's irrelevant, 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.160 well make us relevant, but don't try to give them 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:26.080 ammunition the Edward Blooms of the world, the Steven Miller's 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.960 of the world, the Nancy Maces ammunition to take us out. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.880 That's what I think has been done essentially here. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.880 Yeah, you have to I agree. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:34.800 I think you have to look at the fact that 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:38.120 this you mentioned, the National Bar Association just celebrated this 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.840 year is one hundred and one years right, one hundred 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.760 years ago, we were thinking about building institutions. We were 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.440 thinking about building the infrastructure we needed so that twenty 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.080 five thirty years later we could get things like the 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.040 Voting Rights Act and we could advance civil rights in 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.040 this country. And that is really the point in this moment, 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.000 when we kind of tear down these organizations, in these institutions, 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.640 we are being incredibly shortsighted around what it takes to 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:07.040 actually build political power. We have to take that very 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.920 seriously for ourselves. And I'm telling you, if you look 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.240 at what Nancy Mays is doing, I can tell you 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:16.240 so clearly. It's so clear she takes black political power seriously. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.120 The question is do we take black political power seriously? 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.679 Come on, come on, preach out, amen, And to build 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.080 on what Garrison has said, I think people forget that, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.880 you know, up until the twentieth century, the early twentieth century, 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.880 when we had institutions and organizations like the NAACP and 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.400 other interest organizations form the only place that black folks 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.040 could organize within the church. There's a reason that so 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.720 many and most of our civil rights leaders were pastors, 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.760 because it used to be. We had to only organized 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.280 in church. It was the only place we could be unsurveiled. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.360 So these institutions may not feel like they mean something 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.720 to you in your day to day life, but building 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.000 them is the way that we were able to expand 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.000 our access to power. And that is what people like 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.440 Nancy Mays fear. They don't want us to be able 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.080 to organize in the open. They want to drive us 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.480 back underground where they think that, you know, we won't 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.120 be able to actually move policy. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:08.439 That's exactly right. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.320 Enjoy speaking of modern day, Jay Edgar Hoover, please talk 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.120 to us about Jay Clayton. 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.440 So, Jay Clayton is a former at least at this point, 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.360 they have somebody who's semi qualified. 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:31.520 He's a former prosecutor. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.120 He is taking over as D and I from Bill Poulty, 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:36.959 who is a real estate developer. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.480 If you've ever heard of POLTYE. Holmes, that's him. He's 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:40.520 the heir to that fortune. 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.280 And Donald Trump had to walk away from him as 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.160 the new D and I because he's so unqualified. Even 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.200 Republicans were like, it's to know. But the problem with 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.520 the new guy, Jay Clayton, is that when asked a 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.520 very direct question who won the twenty twenty election. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.199 He did the thing. He couldn't answer the question. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.520 John ASoft did a brilliant job of cornering him on this. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.040 But what it shows is that even if you have 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.280 the minimal qualifications for a change to take this job, 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.320 one of the new white men jobs that they are 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.240 making available in the Trump regime, you still have to 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.120 give Donald Trump his ego, his ego boost. You have 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.320 to not admit that he lost the election in twenty twenty. 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.240 And to me, as John Osof said in a job interview, 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.679 if you can't answer that simple question, you really are 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:25.439 not qualified. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:30.000 That's that. So we have the clip of John Ossoff. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.000 Who won the twenty twenty election. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.160 You know, I'm not going to do this with you. 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.640 This is a job interview. We've established that you have 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.760 an obligation to pretty honest and forthright with the committee. Yes, 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.760 you do have an obligation to be honest and forthright 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.319 with the committee. Yes, who won the twenty twenty election. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.679 Like I said, I'm not going to get into that with. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.760 You, but you do have an obligation to be honest 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.199 and forthright with the committee. 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.000 Is anything that I just said not honest or forthright. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.000 Yes, you're not being honest or forthright. Who won the 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.040 twenty question? We can keep doing this, well, we're going 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.720 to keep doing it because you're not being honest and 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:08.280 forth right. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.079 I'm not going to engage in the theater. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.839 It's a simple question, mister Clayton's, and I've answered who 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.439 won the twenty twenty presidential election? 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:18.400 I've answered it. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.160 You're here asking for the support of senators to lead 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:27.640 America's intelligence community. We've established that you have an obligation 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.040 to be honest and forthright with this committee and with 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.280 the American public. But you refuse to answer a simple 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.360 matter of fact about the twenty twenty election. Is that right? 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:38.760 No, that's not right. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.680 Then answer the question, who won the twenty twenty election? 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.600 Answer it? What is your answer? 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.200 I've given you my answer. 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:53.960 What is your answer? You refuse to answer a basic 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:58.480 question about who won a presidential election, but you asked 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:03.280 to lead America's intelligence community. Isn't it humiliating to be 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:10.400 unable to answer this question? To indulge the president's delusions? 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:16.600 We know you know everybody in this room knows the 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:20.360 truthful answer to that question. Why can you not give it. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:21.880 I think I gave you the answer. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:27.080 Are you aware that Director Gabbard was present at the 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.400 Fulton County Raid in Georgia earlier this year? 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:34.920 You discussed that with me yesterday in your office. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.240 Are you aware that Director Gabbard was present at the 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.040 Fulton County Raid earlier this year? 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:43.440 You brought it to me? 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.960 What is going on here? You've said at the beginning 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.160 of this you have an obligation to be honest, and 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:49.800 the fourth year so with the committee, I'm asking a 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.240 very simple question. Are you aware of a Director Gabbard 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.520 was present at the Fulton County Raid earlier this year? Yes? 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.240 Or no? Are you aware I was? You won't answer 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:57.600 that question. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:59.160 I just said I was made aware of it by 0:14:59.160 --> 0:14:59.800 you yesterday. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.000 The first time you learned but Director Gabbard was president 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:05.880 at that raid was in my office yesterday. 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.760 It was the first time that in my recollection. I've 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:13.880 thought about it recently. Now, what was I aware of 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.000 it before? What you brought to my attention yesterday? 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.160 I had not, So you had not known I had not. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.160 I had not thought about it until you brought it 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:21.640 to my attention. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:25.560 Yet your answer is lack credibility. Your testimony lacks credibility. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.520 You're being evasive and you're not being candid or forthright. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.880 And everybody across the country is going to watch this 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:37.760 and know that my wow, wow, the contortions that there. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.000 You ask you guys, But we got a new dance 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:47.360 from that though. He's it what what we got it first? 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:47.640 Right? 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.840 His was not that on beat off off ad app 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.840 guy in either order twenty eight I keep on. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:56.000 Enjoy right. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:02.680 On all people app tap? What's the app tap tickets? 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.040 So wild is that this is the performance each and 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.280 every one of the nominees has had to do. You 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.480 cannot admit that Donald Trump lost in twenty twenty and 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.400 get a job in this administration. 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:12.880 You can't. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.840 Donald Trump requires it for his ego because he's got 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.800 dementia and he can't stand or handle the fact that 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.480 he lost. They all have to do this performance. It's 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.360 embarrassing and humiliating as alsof right, but they have to 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:25.760 do it, and he got confirmed. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.120 Well, let me tell y'all something that we're proud of 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:34.280 in this moment. HBCUs continue to rise in the face 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.360 of all types of Nancy Mayce, types of ignorance, and 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.840 Jay Clayton's uh. Coppin State University is doing something that's 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:43.520 turning some narratives on its head. 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:44.360 Talk to us about it. 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:50.040 Yeah, So Coppin State University's president, President Anthony Jenkins, shout out, 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.400 has implemented a program offering in state tuition to students 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.760 from states with no HBCU. So if you are from 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.560 a state with no HBCU, you get to go to 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.360 Coppin State, which is in Baltimore, Maryland. Am I right, Baltimore, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.960 shout out to Baltimore. You get to go there with instituition. 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.919 I think, joy, you are in state? What do you 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:11.679 what do you make of this? 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.800 I think that is a wonderful thing because as we're 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:19.800 seeing you know, DEI destroyed and black students sort of 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:24.480 pushed away and shunned from a lot of predominantly white institutions, 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:28.520 options are needed and good education is so important in 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.119 order to get you know where you want to go 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.320 in life. So proud of copp and State for stepping up, 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.760 and I hope more universities will do it as well, 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.520 because it's the affordability that's the problem. People don't go 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.959 to People don't, you know, skip college generally because they 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:41.360 don't care. 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:42.480 It's because they can't afford it. 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.399 You know, we just saw what happened to Howard University 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.000 where lots of students couldn't afford to get pay their tuition. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.840 So big up to Coppon State. I love it. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.399 I think it's huge. And I'll say this, this kind 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.800 of connects back to this CBC point right our institutions there. 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.960 We are living in a time of like, you never 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.959 know what you've got until it's gone, and we're seeing 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.440 things being stripped away and leaving and then we're realizing, oh, 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.239 there's value. I kind of came up in a time 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:10.080 where folks were always questioning the importance of an HBO 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:11.200 Oh do we even need it? 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:12.040 You hear these. 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.560 Conversations all the time, And now we're seeing nobody else 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.919 is stepping up to make sure the black students have 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:22.919 opportunities in this increasingly unaffordable America. But at HBCU is 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.760 and that's why our institutions are important. So this is 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.480 this is huge. Congratulations to copp and State and to 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.600 all the students in Washington and Colorado and Wyoming who 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.040 can now go and have. 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.320 Instincts that is true. I will tell you all this 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:37.240 too in California. 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.000 In California, nobody on. 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.000 And I will say, you know the other thing that 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.480 is phenomenal about this to me, I always talk about 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.080 mutual aid networks and there have been these different types 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:53.679 of experiences and gifts and industries where you see we 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:55.960 come together in our greatest time of need. So when 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.320 people are about to be hurt the most economically, and 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:02.080 HBCU is saying, we're going to still fill the gap. 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.080 We don't have everything we need. We know that we're 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:08.120 getting short change by our state and certainly by the Feds, 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.240 but we're still going to fill the gap. And it's 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.000 at a time where everything the cost is rising everywhere, 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.280 tuition prices are rising period, and they're like, no, we're 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.440 going to actually do the reverse. And I think that 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.040 that says so much about real leadership and integrity in 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:21.480 this moment. 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.840 So shout out today, shaking of integrity. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.200 It's might not be some financial reparations, but it still 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.520 feels like Democrats are like, Okay, well maybe the South 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:33.440