1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Reison Choice Media. Welcome home, y'all in Nashville, Tennessee. This 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: is episode of Native lampod where we give you our 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: breakdown of all things politics and culture. 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: I am your host, Angela Rye, with two very special 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: guest hosts, y'all. 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: They're family to us, to this show, to me a 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: little bias, but they are some of my favorites. We 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: have Garrison Hayes. He is a multimedia content creator, a journalist. 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: He's a retired preacher. We're gonna talk about that next time. 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: Soon. 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: He will join me and my good sister who I'm 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: about to introduce. She's the host of joy Read, the 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Joyread Show and she's killing it. Joy and Reid is 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: joining us, and we welcome Garrison to the side of 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: the cussing Christians. 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: Welcome home. 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 4: Should I start cussing? 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 5: Should I? I mean? 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: You can wait? 21 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: You can do it today? 22 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 6: You know what? 23 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 4: Out I'm just kidding. 24 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: We do bleep on the show. 25 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: We have to, so, y'all, I'm gonna get into this 26 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: rundown really quick. So with there's a protester who took 27 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: over a press conference recently that was being held by 28 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: the Madison, Wisconsin police chief following the shooting death of 29 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: thirty eight year old Corey Ruiz. Republican Representative Nancy Mace, 30 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: who I cannot wait for her to return to the 31 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: private sector because she is still reaking havoc in hell 32 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: on our community. She's introduced a resolution to race based caucuses, 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: taking aim at the Congressional Black Caucus. The Senate confirmed 34 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: Jay Clayton as the D and I chief, replacing Tolcy Gabbert. 35 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: Of course, but does he believe that Joe Biden won 36 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: the election in twenty twenty Why are we still talking 37 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: about this twenty twenty six? Recently, Democrats make the historic 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: decision to make South Carolina their first in the nation 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: primary for twenty twenty eight? 40 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: Is this good for the blacks? 41 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: Joy read We gonna find out. Facts in fiction continue 42 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: to swirl as tensions increasing. The Nolan Wells case a 43 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: phone call his alleged friends made to Sito on the 44 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: day of his disappearances, raising a lot of questions, and 45 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: we have isolated audio for that. We're going to talk 46 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: about all of that and so much more on this 47 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: episode of Native lampod Welcome home, y'all. All right, so 48 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: now it's time for your situational awareness. First up, we 49 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: are going to talk about this tragic shooting in Madison, Wisconsin. 50 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: Thirty eight year old Corey Ruiz was the subject of 51 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: a police shooting. Of course, there's now an independent investigation going, 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: but a police chief, the police chief, John Patterson, addressed 53 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: a press conference, and there was a protester that was like, 54 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: not on my watch, I'm reclaiming my time in this narrative. 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and roll that clip. 56 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 7: The Finnis of trust in the city right now did 57 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 7: not start. 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 8: Well, we can to shut this down. You can stop 59 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 8: talking because we don't want to hear anything you've been saying. 60 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 8: You're going to say the same thing you all say 61 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 8: every time a black body gets shot down in this city. 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 8: This is a corrupt city. 63 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 9: That's right. 64 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 5: Have no fear the anti Zionist here. 65 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 8: Do you understand me? Won't be able to talk today 66 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 8: because I'm gonna keep talking because I was born to 67 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 8: talk my talk and walk my walk to I told 68 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 8: these young people back here on our way here that 69 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 8: we have the power, not that badge, not that weapon. 70 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 8: We have the power. The city of Madison is corrupt, 71 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 8: from the DA to the to the what's the name 72 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 8: of us, the Department of Independent Monitorings. 73 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 5: We don't want any any of that talk. 74 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 8: You've ain't given us this speech with you'll deliver justice. 75 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 8: Oh we've seen the cameras. We've seen it was a 76 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 8: knife in this young man's hand. We don't want to 77 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 8: hear that today. We didn't want to hear it when 78 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 8: they put their neck on George Floyd's neck. We don't 79 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 8: their foot on George Floyd's neck, and we don't want 80 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 8: to hear it today. That's the What do you have 81 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 8: to say about that? Oh, you don't get to talk. 82 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 10: I said. 83 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 8: That, give me this microphone, didn't excuse me. 84 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: That's right. 85 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 8: All to all people, zero power to zionists, zero power 86 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 8: to capitalists, zero power to colonialism. 87 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: Shout out to Carlos. 88 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah it's my press conference now, yeah. 89 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's that's strong man. That's 90 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: strong to. 91 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Be a member of a tap I it is all 92 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: no all power to all people. 93 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: Oh okay, power to all people? 94 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 10: Okay, can we get him on the ballot for twenty 95 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 10: twenty eight? 96 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: I think I found by President. 97 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 10: I finally found my candidate. I'm excited get him to 98 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 10: South Carolina. 99 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: They have been protesting like consistently about this shooting death, 100 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: and as a result of that, there's an independent investigation. 101 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: They're now investigating it as a homicide. I think what's 102 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: unfortunate here is so often we have to do so 103 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: much just to be treated as human. And I think 104 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: you saw some of that pain and frustration in his 105 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: remarks because powerful we laughed a little bit, but we 106 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: also understand that, well, we don't know how we would respond. Yeah, 107 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: we're there with them in Madison. 108 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's matter. But you know the 109 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: thing that always stands out to me when you google 110 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 4: Corey Ruiz and you're trying to find information about this, 111 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 4: one of the first things that comes up is an 112 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 4: article about this person's past history with the police, and 113 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: these efforts to discredit and besmirch and change the narrative 114 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: without answering the central question about whether or not this 115 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: was justified. And obviously the community and those of us 116 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: who've seen the video say no, this was not justified 117 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 4: at all. This was wrong, and so that outrage is 118 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: incredibly justified, right, that outrage is necessary, and hopefully it 119 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 4: awakens outrage and other people. 120 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, speaking of outrage and outrages, let's go ahead 121 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: and tap Nancy Mason because she cannot help herself. She 122 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: is still on BS because she doesn't know what else 123 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: to do, and as she finds her exit ramp from Congress, 124 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: she has introduced House Resolution fourteen fifty four because she 125 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: does not believe there should be any race based caucuses. Y'all, 126 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't understand what their infatuation is with this. I 127 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: can think of a gazillion caucuses I would like to 128 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: see go Freedom Caucus, TEA Party Caucus, KKK Caucus, like 129 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: they can go, But why are they targeting these Like 130 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: the fact that she's like, let me find an on 131 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: ramp with the Committee on House Administration to revoke and 132 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: prevent the registration of cmos that's a congressional member organization. 133 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: Y'all know. 134 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: I take this personally because I am a former Congressional 135 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: Black Caucus ED super irritated by this, because what this 136 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: does is it would essentially defund like staffing capabilities. 137 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: Members would no longer pay dues to these organizations. 138 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: And while some people at home can say, well, they 139 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: can still meet and figure out an agenda. Well, what 140 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: staff is going to be in place to move forward 141 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: with an agenda? Somebody else might say, why are you 142 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: giving this any time? Well, I would not take it 143 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: seriously if they didn't defund DEI and if they didn't 144 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: ban our textbooks and other books. 145 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: So, y'all, I gotta take this real serious, which y'all. 146 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 10: Think, yeah, And I think that I have to blame 147 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 10: the Supreme Court for this, because, you know, by destroying 148 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 10: affirmative action, ending affirmative action and the attacks on DEI 149 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 10: sort of opening up this idea that there can't be 150 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 10: any race based solutions unless they are focused on enhancing 151 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 10: the power and prestige and opportunities for white people. Essentially, 152 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 10: what we're seeing in the United States is that white 153 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 10: Christian conservatives are being created as the only protected class 154 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 10: and every other protected class is being wiped out. This 155 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 10: may not seem like it matters to the average person, 156 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 10: but if you can't have a black caucus, a congressional 157 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 10: black caucus, you soon won't be able to have a 158 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 10: black interest organization at your high school or college. You 159 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 10: won't be able to have a black interest organization or club. 160 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 10: That's funded and that operates at your university. This is 161 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 10: where this is going, this war on us and of 162 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 10: course on all people of color, because she wants the 163 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 10: Asian Caucus, Thispanic Caucus, all of it to go away. 164 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 10: Is all about saying we can't organize amongst ourselves. Only 165 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 10: white Americans can be protected by the federal government. 166 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: And I think this is the other prior so y'all. 167 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: At the end of her statement where she announces this 168 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: resolution because it's so important to her, she says, we 169 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: represent all of our constituents, not just the ones who 170 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: look like us. If you do not agree, you should 171 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: not be serving in Congress. It is time to end 172 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: federally sanctioned discrimination in this institution. And for me, I'm 173 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: just like you know, this actually isn't discrimination. To gather 174 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: with like minded people who have similar districts and similar values. 175 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: We have always called the CBC the conscience of the Congress, 176 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: and it's interesting to me that she doesn't understand how 177 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: the conscience of the Congress moves the needle on policy 178 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: for poor white people, for poor indigenous folks, like there's 179 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: a reason why there's a tricoccus, and they find things 180 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: some policy issues to work on together. But I also 181 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: will say family that this is why I also think 182 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: it's very mission critical that we're not always like, well, 183 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: this is irrelevant and why are we doing this and 184 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Garrison and I are in Nashville right now, 185 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: his lovely bride win in the world out from the 186 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: National Virus Nociation Young Lawyer's Division just a few days ago, 187 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: and last year joy I decided I was like, Okay, 188 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to come back home. It's the one hundredth 189 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: anniversary of the National Bar. Instead of me criticizing on 190 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: the sidelines, I'm going to get back engage. These are 191 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: the things we have to do to add value to 192 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: our orgs and bring our own gifts to the table. 193 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: If we just are on the sidelines like oh it's irrelevant, 194 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: well make us relevant, but don't try to give them 195 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: ammunition the Edward Blooms of the world, the Steven Miller's 196 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: of the world, the Nancy Maces ammunition to take us out. 197 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: That's what I think has been done essentially here. 198 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to I agree. 199 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: I think you have to look at the fact that 200 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: this you mentioned, the National Bar Association just celebrated this 201 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: year is one hundred and one years right, one hundred 202 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 4: years ago, we were thinking about building institutions. We were 203 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 4: thinking about building the infrastructure we needed so that twenty 204 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 4: five thirty years later we could get things like the 205 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: Voting Rights Act and we could advance civil rights in 206 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 4: this country. And that is really the point in this moment, 207 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: when we kind of tear down these organizations, in these institutions, 208 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 4: we are being incredibly shortsighted around what it takes to 209 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: actually build political power. We have to take that very 210 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: seriously for ourselves. And I'm telling you, if you look 211 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: at what Nancy Mays is doing, I can tell you 212 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: so clearly. It's so clear she takes black political power seriously. 213 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: The question is do we take black political power seriously? 214 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 10: Come on, come on, preach out, amen, And to build 215 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 10: on what Garrison has said, I think people forget that, 216 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 10: you know, up until the twentieth century, the early twentieth century, 217 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 10: when we had institutions and organizations like the NAACP and 218 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 10: other interest organizations form the only place that black folks 219 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 10: could organize within the church. There's a reason that so 220 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 10: many and most of our civil rights leaders were pastors, 221 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 10: because it used to be. We had to only organized 222 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 10: in church. It was the only place we could be unsurveiled. 223 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 10: So these institutions may not feel like they mean something 224 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 10: to you in your day to day life, but building 225 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 10: them is the way that we were able to expand 226 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 10: our access to power. And that is what people like 227 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 10: Nancy Mays fear. They don't want us to be able 228 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 10: to organize in the open. They want to drive us 229 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 10: back underground where they think that, you know, we won't 230 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 10: be able to actually move policy. 231 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 232 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: Enjoy speaking of modern day, Jay Edgar Hoover, please talk 233 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: to us about Jay Clayton. 234 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 10: So, Jay Clayton is a former at least at this point, 235 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 10: they have somebody who's semi qualified. 236 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: He's a former prosecutor. 237 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 10: He is taking over as D and I from Bill Poulty, 238 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 10: who is a real estate developer. 239 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: If you've ever heard of POLTYE. Holmes, that's him. He's 240 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: the heir to that fortune. 241 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 10: And Donald Trump had to walk away from him as 242 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 10: the new D and I because he's so unqualified. Even 243 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 10: Republicans were like, it's to know. But the problem with 244 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 10: the new guy, Jay Clayton, is that when asked a 245 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 10: very direct question who won the twenty twenty election. 246 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 3: He did the thing. He couldn't answer the question. 247 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 10: John ASoft did a brilliant job of cornering him on this. 248 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 10: But what it shows is that even if you have 249 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 10: the minimal qualifications for a change to take this job, 250 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 10: one of the new white men jobs that they are 251 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 10: making available in the Trump regime, you still have to 252 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 10: give Donald Trump his ego, his ego boost. You have 253 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 10: to not admit that he lost the election in twenty twenty. 254 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 10: And to me, as John Osof said in a job interview, 255 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 10: if you can't answer that simple question, you really are 256 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 10: not qualified. 257 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: That's that. So we have the clip of John Ossoff. 258 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: Who won the twenty twenty election. 259 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 7: You know, I'm not going to do this with you. 260 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 5: This is a job interview. We've established that you have 261 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 5: an obligation to pretty honest and forthright with the committee. Yes, 262 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: you do have an obligation to be honest and forthright 263 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 5: with the committee. Yes, who won the twenty twenty election. 264 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 7: Like I said, I'm not going to get into that with. 265 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 5: You, but you do have an obligation to be honest 266 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 5: and forthright with the committee. 267 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 7: Is anything that I just said not honest or forthright. 268 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 5: Yes, you're not being honest or forthright. Who won the 269 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 5: twenty question? We can keep doing this, well, we're going 270 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 5: to keep doing it because you're not being honest and 271 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 5: forth right. 272 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 7: I'm not going to engage in the theater. 273 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 5: It's a simple question, mister Clayton's, and I've answered who 274 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 5: won the twenty twenty presidential election? 275 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 7: I've answered it. 276 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 5: You're here asking for the support of senators to lead 277 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: America's intelligence community. We've established that you have an obligation 278 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 5: to be honest and forthright with this committee and with 279 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 5: the American public. But you refuse to answer a simple 280 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 5: matter of fact about the twenty twenty election. Is that right? 281 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 7: No, that's not right. 282 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 5: Then answer the question, who won the twenty twenty election? 283 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 5: Answer it? What is your answer? 284 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 7: I've given you my answer. 285 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 5: What is your answer? You refuse to answer a basic 286 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 5: question about who won a presidential election, but you asked 287 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 5: to lead America's intelligence community. Isn't it humiliating to be 288 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 5: unable to answer this question? To indulge the president's delusions? 289 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 5: We know you know everybody in this room knows the 290 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 5: truthful answer to that question. Why can you not give it. 291 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 7: I think I gave you the answer. 292 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 5: Are you aware that Director Gabbard was present at the 293 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 5: Fulton County Raid in Georgia earlier this year? 294 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 7: You discussed that with me yesterday in your office. 295 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 5: Are you aware that Director Gabbard was present at the 296 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 5: Fulton County Raid earlier this year? 297 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 7: You brought it to me? 298 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 5: What is going on here? You've said at the beginning 299 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 5: of this you have an obligation to be honest, and 300 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 5: the fourth year so with the committee, I'm asking a 301 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 5: very simple question. Are you aware of a Director Gabbard 302 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 5: was present at the Fulton County Raid earlier this year? Yes? 303 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 5: Or no? Are you aware I was? You won't answer 304 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 5: that question. 305 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 7: I just said I was made aware of it by 306 00:14:59,160 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 7: you yesterday. 307 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 5: The first time you learned but Director Gabbard was president 308 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: at that raid was in my office yesterday. 309 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 7: It was the first time that in my recollection. I've 310 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 7: thought about it recently. Now, what was I aware of 311 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 7: it before? What you brought to my attention yesterday? 312 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 5: I had not, So you had not known I had not. 313 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 7: I had not thought about it until you brought it 314 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 7: to my attention. 315 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 5: Yet your answer is lack credibility. Your testimony lacks credibility. 316 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 5: You're being evasive and you're not being candid or forthright. 317 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 5: And everybody across the country is going to watch this 318 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 5: and know that my wow, wow, the contortions that there. 319 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: You ask you guys, But we got a new dance 320 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: from that though. He's it what what we got it first? 321 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: Right? 322 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 10: His was not that on beat off off ad app 323 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 10: guy in either order twenty eight I keep on. 324 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: Enjoy right. 325 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: On all people app tap? What's the app tap tickets? 326 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 10: So wild is that this is the performance each and 327 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 10: every one of the nominees has had to do. You 328 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 10: cannot admit that Donald Trump lost in twenty twenty and 329 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 10: get a job in this administration. 330 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: You can't. 331 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 10: Donald Trump requires it for his ego because he's got 332 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 10: dementia and he can't stand or handle the fact that 333 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 10: he lost. They all have to do this performance. It's 334 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 10: embarrassing and humiliating as alsof right, but they have to 335 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 10: do it, and he got confirmed. 336 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Well, let me tell y'all something that we're proud of 337 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: in this moment. HBCUs continue to rise in the face 338 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: of all types of Nancy Mayce, types of ignorance, and 339 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Jay Clayton's uh. Coppin State University is doing something that's 340 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: turning some narratives on its head. 341 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: Talk to us about it. 342 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, So Coppin State University's president, President Anthony Jenkins, shout out, 343 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: has implemented a program offering in state tuition to students 344 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 4: from states with no HBCU. So if you are from 345 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: a state with no HBCU, you get to go to 346 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 4: Coppin State, which is in Baltimore, Maryland. Am I right, Baltimore, 347 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: shout out to Baltimore. You get to go there with instituition. 348 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 4: I think, joy, you are in state? What do you 349 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 4: what do you make of this? 350 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 10: I think that is a wonderful thing because as we're 351 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 10: seeing you know, DEI destroyed and black students sort of 352 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 10: pushed away and shunned from a lot of predominantly white institutions, 353 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 10: options are needed and good education is so important in 354 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 10: order to get you know where you want to go 355 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 10: in life. So proud of copp and State for stepping up, 356 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 10: and I hope more universities will do it as well, 357 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 10: because it's the affordability that's the problem. People don't go 358 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 10: to People don't, you know, skip college generally because they 359 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 10: don't care. 360 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: It's because they can't afford it. 361 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 10: You know, we just saw what happened to Howard University 362 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 10: where lots of students couldn't afford to get pay their tuition. 363 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: So big up to Coppon State. I love it. 364 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 4: I think it's huge. And I'll say this, this kind 365 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: of connects back to this CBC point right our institutions there. 366 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: We are living in a time of like, you never 367 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 4: know what you've got until it's gone, and we're seeing 368 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: things being stripped away and leaving and then we're realizing, oh, 369 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 4: there's value. I kind of came up in a time 370 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 4: where folks were always questioning the importance of an HBO 371 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 4: Oh do we even need it? 372 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: You hear these. 373 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: Conversations all the time, And now we're seeing nobody else 374 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 4: is stepping up to make sure the black students have 375 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 4: opportunities in this increasingly unaffordable America. But at HBCU is 376 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: and that's why our institutions are important. So this is 377 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: this is huge. Congratulations to copp and State and to 378 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: all the students in Washington and Colorado and Wyoming who 379 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: can now go and have. 380 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: Instincts that is true. I will tell you all this 381 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: too in California. 382 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: In California, nobody on. 383 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: And I will say, you know the other thing that 384 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: is phenomenal about this to me, I always talk about 385 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: mutual aid networks and there have been these different types 386 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: of experiences and gifts and industries where you see we 387 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: come together in our greatest time of need. So when 388 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: people are about to be hurt the most economically, and 389 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: HBCU is saying, we're going to still fill the gap. 390 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: We don't have everything we need. We know that we're 391 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: getting short change by our state and certainly by the Feds, 392 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: but we're still going to fill the gap. And it's 393 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: at a time where everything the cost is rising everywhere, 394 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: tuition prices are rising period, and they're like, no, we're 395 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: going to actually do the reverse. And I think that 396 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: that says so much about real leadership and integrity in 397 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: this moment. 398 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: So shout out today, shaking of integrity. 399 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: It's might not be some financial reparations, but it still 400 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: feels like Democrats are like, Okay, well maybe the South 401 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: got something to say. 402 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 2: Joy read what they're doing. 403 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 10: So the South is going to be speaking quite loudly 404 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 10: in the twenty twenty eight primaries. South Carolina, which was 405 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 10: the the sort of I guess, the defining state, the 406 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 10: third state that would basically break the tie between Iowa 407 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 10: and New Hampshire. The two super white states that were 408 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 10: always first, will now be first in the nation. They 409 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 10: will be first to hold their primary. Some people saying 410 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 10: that that's not great for black power, but not everybody 411 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 10: agrees with that. Some people are quite happy about it. 412 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 10: A queue Tequila Johnson. 413 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 3: Please. 414 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 6: Everybody keep asking, oh why Democrats don't invest in a 415 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 6: Southern strategy, especially considering that fifty six percent of all 416 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 6: black people live in the South, and that black people 417 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 6: are the Democratic Party's most loyal voting block. And what 418 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 6: I tell people is Democrats are afraid of investing in 419 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 6: the South. Democrats are afraid of investing in and funding 420 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 6: true black leadership, funding our media outlets, funding our black strategists, 421 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 6: funding our black organizations, funding our black operatives, funding our 422 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 6: candidates at the rights that they need to be funded at. 423 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 6: Democrats aren't afraid of the South. They are afraid of 424 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 6: black power and what that would do for their agenda. 425 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 6: Make no mistake about it, White people gonna white people, 426 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 6: even if they don't want to. 427 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 3: Even the most well to do. 428 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 6: White people sometimes can consider themselves to be a class 429 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 6: above Black people, especially as it relates to political strategy. 430 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 6: They feel like they built this system and they feel 431 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 6: like nobody knows it like them. And as a Black 432 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 6: Southern organizer, as a Black Southern leader, one of the 433 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 6: things that I can tell you is it is a 434 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 6: full time job to humanize black people in this work, 435 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 6: to make sure that we're not just the number on 436 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 6: the door sheet. To make sure that our culture is 437 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 6: steeped in the organizing that happens here, To make sure 438 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 6: that we're able to send a joy in the outreach 439 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 6: that we're doing. To make sure that we're not just 440 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 6: being funded to be a conduit of the party and 441 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 6: go knock on doors when elections come, but that we're 442 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 6: able to make sure people get fit and that their 443 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 6: needs are men so that when election does come around, 444 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 6: they know us and they trust us. Invest in black 445 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 6: leadership if you want to win. We've seen what happens 446 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 6: when you invest in black leadership. Are you ready to 447 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 6: do it or are you still afraid of what you 448 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 6: might have to lose if you uplift black leaders? 449 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Tequila, John Nowjoy is like Okay, 450 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: I got three people on my presidential ticket, so tequila. 451 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: I Actually I'm kicking myself right now because I didn't 452 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: even think about this. The equity alliance is based is 453 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: killing it. And I think the thing that I love 454 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: about what she said here is the not just the 455 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, but politicians, folks who seek office, folks who 456 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: are frustrated about turnout and voter apathy. If they listen 457 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: to what she said. She talked about meeting people's basic needs. 458 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: And if you listen to that first, you cent her 459 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: what people are. 460 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: How are you? 461 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: Are you hungry? 462 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: Like your grandmama said, Like, ask people what they need. 463 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: They're going to show up for you, especially us, Like 464 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: we're just loyal. We're wired that waste in our DNA 465 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: to be loyal. So anyway, I don't see how to 466 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: South lose this. 467 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 10: Well they I mean, so the upside that people are 468 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 10: noting is that this is going to flood South Carolina 469 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 10: with money because all the candidates have to come there first. 470 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 10: They're going to stay in the hotels, they're going to 471 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 10: use the local car services, they're going to eat in 472 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 10: the restaurant. So this is going to be great financially 473 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 10: for South Carolina. And because South Carolina's primary electorate is 474 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 10: about fifty percent black, you're talking about having to appeal 475 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 10: to black voters. 476 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: And that is a good thing, right. 477 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 10: The upside is they have to make a message, the 478 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 10: Democratic candidates. 479 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: That appeals to black voters. 480 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 10: What people are saying the downside is, this is the 481 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 10: Jonathan argument, is that it disempowers South Carolina because it's 482 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 10: no longer the closer. It no longer can break ties 483 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 10: between two white states. And the second way that people 484 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 10: are claiming it produces black power is that now candidates 485 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 10: don't really have to worry about appealing to black voters 486 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 10: down the line. They can just make a message that 487 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 10: appeals to the most moderate Jim Clyburn type black voters 488 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 10: in the top and progressive candidates will just move on 489 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 10: and go to Nevada and take their progressive message elsewhere. 490 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 3: What do y'all think of that? 491 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 5: Oof? 492 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 4: I think it's a strong message. It kind of gets 493 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: to some point that I made Election Night twenty twenty four. 494 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: You know, I report on black political power. So I 495 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 4: was talking to black voters throughout the entire cycle, and 496 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 4: I kept hearing this thing over and over again that 497 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: Democrats don't really care about black voters, and there's this 498 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 4: sense that Democrats want to look at black voters as 499 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: a base to mobilize, but not necessarily a base to persuade. 500 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: And there is a huge tension around this idea of 501 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 4: are you making a case to me or are you 502 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 4: assuming that I'm already with you and just telling me 503 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: to go out and knockdoors and get folks mobilized. And 504 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: so I think that it speaks to this, and there's 505 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: a real tension there. I'm hopeful that between now and 506 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: when you know, we are getting that that in that 507 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: in between times, folks like us, quite frankly, are able 508 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: to amplify those voices and talk about this persuasively enough 509 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 4: that people will go down there and take that political 510 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 4: power seriously enough to persuade voters. You know, I just 511 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 4: saw Stead Herndon interviewed Representative Clyde Burne recently and there 512 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 4: was a huge discussion around some of the things. You 513 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 4: didn't like it. 514 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 2: I didn't. 515 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: I didn't like what he tried to do with him 516 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: around chat GPT. I thought, stay doing some stuff I 517 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: don't like. He need to come on the show because 518 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 1: I don't know why I feel like every time I 519 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: look around, he being used to like discredit or make 520 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: a black elected official look crazy. And I just brother, 521 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: don't do that, friend, Okay, go ahead, I just sorry. 522 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: That's what I'll say. 523 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 4: You know, I have I don't like, I don't have 524 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: his strong opinions about Steed. I will say that some 525 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 4: of the things that I don't know, I don't. 526 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 5: I'm not here. 527 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: Can you and be like, don't do that? 528 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: Come on the show. We got questions, but let me 529 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: just say this. Let me just say this. I will 530 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 4: say that some of the responses from Representative Clyburn raised 531 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 4: serious questions about whether or not they're they're taking seriously 532 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 4: that people are not happy right now. It's not business 533 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 4: as usual, and there needs to be an effort to persuade. 534 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 4: And that's really my point, that the work of persuasion 535 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 4: is necessary in this time. 536 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: Joy I've had ye. 537 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: What though, here's the only thing I'm gonna say. I 538 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: want us to start being a little more practical about 539 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: the percentages in difference on how we see policy. I 540 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: think that Congressman Clyburn is talked about like he's this moderate, 541 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: but he is very Jesse Jackson senior about ensuring that 542 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: poor people have what they need, about ensuring like they 543 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: get broadband access to the South. You got leak Joe 544 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: Biden audio of them saying we got to look out 545 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: for black folks in the South. But there are some 546 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: other ways that he seems moderate because of his pathway 547 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: to get those things. So it's the means to the end. 548 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: It's not that there's a different end goal. And I 549 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: also want to stress this part South Carolina. This could 550 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: also be seen as a reward for South Carolina. When 551 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: the rest of the South took on redistricting and our 552 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: seats were lost, South Carolina had to pull that ish back. 553 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: It was because of mister Cliburn's influence and the power 554 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: of the protest So progressives and Congressman Clyburn came together 555 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: for a common goal. And so I think that if 556 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: we could do anything, I would like to flip that 557 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: narrative on its head. We should be first because we 558 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: are your foundation. There is no democratic party without black 559 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: political thought, ideology, innovation. We should absolutely set the tone. 560 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: You don't get to tell us that now we're not 561 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: gonna matter, because we're not no tie breaker. Were not 562 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: just the tipe we can be open and closed. 563 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 564 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: Well, please, wait, isn't the well? 565 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 10: I think the other piece of it, too, is that 566 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 10: I feel like black progressives have been erased in this 567 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 10: whole conversation because what the progressive white progressives are sort 568 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 10: of saying is well, South Carolina is the home of 569 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 10: establishment black moderates like Cliberg. That's what they say, even though, 570 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 10: like you said, this was a guy who has a 571 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 10: young person, was a city and guy like he was 572 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 10: actually fighting. 573 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 3: It makes him a progressive right in jail, So he's 574 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 3: a progressive, MG. 575 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 10: But I also think that we've erased the existence of 576 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 10: black progressives. Bernie Sanders' twenty sixteen campaign was Jesse Jackson's 577 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 10: nineteen eighty eight campaign. It was the same platform, yeah 578 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 10: and eighty four right, So Jesse Jackson was Bernie before Bernie, 579 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 10: and so progressive ism actually was seated in the black 580 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 10: community pro Palestinians. 581 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: South Carolina, by the way, Joy, Oh. 582 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 3: South Carolina, South Carolina. Hello. 583 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 10: And so since we also have so Corey Bush who's 584 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 10: now running as a black progressive in District one in Missouri. 585 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 10: She's a black progressive. If you see what's happening in 586 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 10: the state of Michigan where abdu lsied just got endorsed 587 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 10: by an og black progressive named Bonnie Watson Coleman, who 588 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 10: people forget that's another o g Like she's you know, 589 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 10: bride or die about it old or progressive. So there 590 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 10: are black progressives. I hope that this gives an opportunity 591 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 10: for the South, the southern black progressive to stand up, 592 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 10: because that's what people need to see is that there's 593 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 10: a there's a range of opinions among blacks in South Carolina. 594 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 4: And the thing I'll add to that, Joy, I think 595 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: you're spot on. It also takes black people out of 596 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: this position we are constantly put in the position of 597 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 4: having to make a do or die, last minute, everything 598 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 4: on the line decision for democracy. It takes us out 599 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 4: of that. And I was talking to I mentioned this 600 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: point recently in a video that I did with Charles 601 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 4: Blow where he mentioned, like, I'm tired of black people 602 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: being in this in between tiebreaker, you know, kind of 603 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 4: position that were constantly put in. And I think this 604 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 4: allows us to one express our truest, deepest black political 605 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: power imagination, right like, like black voters in South Carolina 606 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 4: get to set the pace. In so many ways, we 607 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: get to say, actually, you know, maybe we wouldn't have 608 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 4: chosen Joe Biden if we weren't in the necessary gotta 609 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 4: do what we gotta do to make sure we get 610 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 4: out of this kind of position. Maybe black voters would 611 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: have chose someone else. Maybe you would see a more 612 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 4: progressive vote coming out of South Carolina. 613 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 614 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: I would have still chosen. 615 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 3: Back Obama. 616 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: But but really my point is, in this case, for real, 617 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: for real, we have the opportunity or South Carolina voters 618 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 4: have the opportunity to express something that's unconventional. Perhaps and 619 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 4: it's whatever they want. Maybe they go with the moderate 620 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 4: that's fine, but at the very least we get to 621 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 4: express outside of the confines of hey guys, this is 622 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: do or die, and if you don't choose the right one, 623 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: everything falls apart. 624 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: Think they would if the election was ill today, Oh 625 00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: Lord Jesus. 626 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: Depends upon who's running. Obviously, if all of the hopefuls 627 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 4: are running, I'm gonna say that Vice President Kamala Hairs 628 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: still has an edge. 629 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: In South Carolina and. 630 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 10: South Carolina because she didn't and when she was running 631 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 10: against Biden, because remember it was Corey Corey Booker and 632 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 10: her and Kamala Harris and Biden and Biden beat both 633 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 10: those those exactly. 634 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 4: And I also think there's a real injury. I think 635 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 4: people feel like she was something was taken from her 636 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: and that she should have been present. And so in 637 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 4: this moment, it's a different political, you know, moment. And 638 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 4: I think Joe Biden obviously had the name ID and 639 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: the history, and I think she kind of carries a 640 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: little bit of that today. I'm not you know who 641 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 4: knows right she carried it? 642 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 10: Though? How much would that complicate the field, because now, 643 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 10: you know, people are trying to say it's not it's 644 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 10: a less powerful position. But think about how powerful Iowa 645 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 10: has been for decades, all our whole lives. Now South 646 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 10: Carolina's in that position, and suddenly the white media is saying, oh, 647 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 10: that means it's less powerful since. 648 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: What went Literally, we've been the most powerful. 649 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Barack Obama won the Iowa Caucuses and that made some folks, 650 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: particularly in our community, say, oh, maybe we can't have 651 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: a black president. Remember y'all, we had Negro saying yeah, 652 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: black president. Country not ready for that, right, And it 653 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 1: was we had the CBC was split between a President 654 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: Obama and Hillary the Secretary of State, Hilary Clinton. 655 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed. 656 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: Well, anyway, we got some other news because y'all know, 657 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: we can have a hale. We need to have a 658 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: town hall on that. Maybe we go to the South 659 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: and y'all let's go and talk to all people. 660 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: Let's do that. 661 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 5: I'm trying to be there. 662 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 8: Nobody knows. 663 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: So we also have seen a lot of news swirling 664 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: around Nolan Wells, the tragic death of Nolan Wells. I 665 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: got to see his family, Garrison enjoy at the NAACP. 666 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: But I think we should get into like everything that's 667 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: swirling around online and what we actually know versus what 668 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: we don't. 669 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point. It's a lot of conversation 670 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: online right now. The you know, one of the things 671 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: that I love to see over the weekend was so 672 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 4: many people just posting the name Nolan Wells, like we're 673 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: not letting this fade away. And I think that's so important, 674 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 4: So I'm glad we're talking about it. Audio engineer Janetta 675 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 4: Brantley did some engineering on a phone call that was 676 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 4: made to Cetow by some of Nolan Well's alleged friends. 677 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 4: She did some cleanup on that audio so that you 678 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 4: can kind of make out a little bit of what 679 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 4: was being discussed in the background, and it is sparking 680 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 4: a lot of conversation. There's also been reports coming out 681 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 4: of TMZ and other sources about Nolan Well saying that 682 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 4: he was drinking quote unquote heavily on the island, and 683 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 4: that's been a part of the. 684 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: Discussion prosecuting him after his death. 685 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, let's let's talk about that more. 686 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: Angela, Why I think that one, I do think we 687 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: should listen to this audio, but I think regardless of 688 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: if he was drinking or not, those boys were all 689 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: sitting in a picture with beer, all of them are drinking. 690 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: If you listen to this audio, which I know we're 691 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: going to do shortly, the dude, the young man, sounds 692 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: like he's inebriated, you know. 693 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: So it's just like, why are we talking about him. 694 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: He died. However, he died. 695 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: It's tragic and it is not his fault because he 696 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: was drinking and like them doing. 697 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: The same thing. It just irks me that we always 698 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: are having to. 699 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: Talk about what we did wrong that would have earned 700 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: our death, and that is frustrating to me. 701 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 4: As a black guys, should we listen to this audio 702 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 4: really quick? 703 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: Let's play that? 704 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 11: Okay? So before I play this, I want to quickly 705 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 11: explain what I did, what you're looking at on the screen, 706 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 11: and why I chose to approach this audio the way 707 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 11: that I did. As a professional audio engineer with experience 708 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 11: and dialogue editing, dialogue clean up, sound design, and post production, 709 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 11: I decided to work on that see to call using 710 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 11: traditional audio processing techniques rather than relying on any AI 711 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 11: voice separation or AI enhancement. My goal was pretty much 712 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 11: to preserve as much of the original recording as possible 713 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 11: while making the quieter dialogue and background audio easier to hear. 714 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 11: And I specifically chose not to rely on AI because 715 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 11: aggressive AI enhancements and voice isolation tools can sometimes introduce 716 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 11: artifacts and distort the speech, or create ambiguity around the 717 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 11: sounds that were originally present, and for something this serious, 718 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 11: I wanted my processing to remain as conservative as possible. 719 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 11: For this first video, I'm sharing only approximately thirty seven 720 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 11: seconds of the call. I originally intended to continue much further, 721 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 11: but once I separated the dispatcher from the boat and 722 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 11: started concentrating exclusively on the background dialogue, what I believed 723 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 11: I was hearing became extremely difficult for me to process emotionally. 724 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 11: I needed to take a mental break, and so I'm 725 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 11: gonna let the audio play. Read my read my transcription 726 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 11: if you want a reference, but don't allow it to 727 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 11: determine what you hear. I want you to listen first, 728 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 11: listen again, compare with the original recording, and then judge 729 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 11: it with your own ears. 730 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 9: Okay, god, hey, we're the West tip of porn and 731 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 9: h our billage stopped working. 732 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 3: We're going, we're thinking. 733 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 9: Can y'all please can we have I've never should look up. 734 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 4: I believe that's it. So that was the audio. 735 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how she could hear it. 736 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: Like for me, all I heard them say was, oh 737 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: my god, that's the clearest thing I heard before he 738 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: started yelling shut the f up at people. But the 739 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: rest of that I can't make anything out. I know 740 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: she had a transcript that she put on the side. 741 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: I love to hear, but you all think I could 742 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: just be hard at hearing, but I can't. 743 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: I can't understand. 744 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 10: I will tell you I wish that she hadn't put 745 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 10: the transcript to it to be honest, because I you know, 746 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 10: we played that same audio. We downloaded it from WLOX, 747 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,959 Speaker 10: which was the local Mississippi station that got the audio first, 748 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 10: and so a lot of us downloaded that audio. We 749 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 10: had our audio guy go through it without AI and 750 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 10: just clean it up as an audio X. But we 751 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 10: did the same thing, and we played it for Frank 752 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 10: fin Glusey, who's a former FBI assistant director, and for 753 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 10: Reva Martin and for Dina dol two attorneys, and we 754 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 10: played it for them without a transcript and without telling 755 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 10: them what they were going to hear, because I think 756 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 10: when you see the words under you hear the words 757 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 10: because your brain tells you that what you're reading is 758 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 10: what you're hearing. And when I first heard this audio 759 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 10: and this cleaned up audio that this sister did, and 760 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 10: God bless her for trying to help with his case, 761 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 10: I was reading the audio and so I now cannot 762 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 10: unhear the. 763 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 3: Words that she's saying. I hear every single thing. 764 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 10: He's dead, they killed him, barred, shut the f up? 765 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: Is he really dead? I hear all of it, but I'm. 766 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 10: Now not sure I trust my own mind because I 767 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 10: feel like the transcript and me knowing what I was 768 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 10: gonna hear influence me. We play this for our staff. 769 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 10: No one on my staff heard what I heard. I'm 770 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 10: the only one who seems to have heard it. So 771 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 10: I think this is playing with our emotions and our brain. 772 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 10: At this point, we need and Frank Faglusey did say 773 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 10: this the FBI if we had a real FBI cash, 774 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 10: buttel ass need to get this audio, and they have 775 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 10: much more powerful equipment than that sister who's a Hollywood 776 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 10: editor has. We need to have a real cleanup of 777 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 10: this audio. And I'm gonna say one last thing, and 778 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 10: this is maybe some heterism Black folks. 779 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 3: Since we home, we home, Can. 780 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 10: We stop acting like Nancy Grace's presence suddenly solves the crime. 781 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,240 Speaker 3: That lady is not the. 782 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: FBI Chad the way that people say gys crazy ass 783 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: on the case. 784 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: Now we're going to solve it. 785 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, I went over, come on, like, let's stop 786 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 3: with that. But anyway, didn't she. 787 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 1: Play didn't she play audio that also has been authenticated 788 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: on her She. 789 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 10: Then yes, She then took that same cleaned up audio, 790 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 10: she further cleaned it up to make it almost crystal 791 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 10: clear that you're hearing those words. But I'm like, who 792 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 10: did that? What is the authentication of that? And are 793 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 10: you gaslighting us with giving us what we want to 794 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 10: believe in hear? Because people don't trust them white boys. 795 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 10: So I'm like, don't do that, because number one, you're 796 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 10: setting a lot of content creators up to say things 797 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 10: into camera that may not be true. 798 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 3: We do not know what happened to this child. 799 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 10: We all want to know that Mama deserves answers, but 800 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 10: this is not giving her answers or comfort. What this 801 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 10: is doing is sending all of us down a path 802 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 10: that may turn out not to be true. So I 803 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 10: do not trust their story either. There are a millionions 804 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 10: of holes in these stories. I think giving that interview 805 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 10: to uh, the black black copper copper, whatever his name is, 806 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 10: I keep saying his name is Officer Remis, and I don't. 807 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 3: Know why I can't. I want to call him. 808 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 10: My mind tells me because I got menopause, I'll be 809 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 10: calling him. 810 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: Remus or Ruckus or nearest who knows who knows at 811 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: this point? 812 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 2: Or Thomas. 813 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, speaking of Thomas, we do have 814 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: a listener question. Who is asking something about your Supreme Court? 815 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I. 816 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 2: Found my best, you know, funt of. 817 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: Money out here. But we have we have a question 818 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: about the Supreme Court. We're going to answer this and 819 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: then get in the cause dash because Joey got a guy. 820 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 1: She got a shout at you too. That's what the question. 821 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 2: Hey again, Native Land family. 822 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 12: My name is Janiary Turner and I am in the 823 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 12: Atlanta area and my question is about the Supreme Court. 824 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 12: So every time that a goes to the Supreme Court, 825 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 12: I get nervous and very anxious because of a lot 826 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 12: of the judges that are on the Supreme Court. So 827 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 12: my question is what is it going to take or 828 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 12: what needs to be done to remove some of the 829 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 12: people on the Supreme Court. And do you all think 830 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 12: that that's even a possibility. I think that there are 831 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 12: a lot of things that are unethical that our Supreme 832 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 12: Court justices are doing, some of them more than others. 833 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 12: And I will just say I like it better when 834 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 12: the city girls get fleut out instead of a sitting 835 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 12: Supreme Court justice. So and I miss you on the shell, 836 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 12: Tiffany by. 837 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: Y'all shout out to tiffing them books. She's working hard 838 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: out here too. So I love this question. Just from 839 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: a historical standpoint, just to disappoint this a little bit, 840 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: that only just this of the Supreme Court ever being 841 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: peached is Justice Samuel Chase. Associate Justice Samuel Chase in 842 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: eighteen oh five. Doesn give us a lot of hope. 843 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: So it might not be too much removing, especially in 844 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: this environment. But perhaps we can add some That's what 845 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: our good friend Ellie missed Out says often that maybe 846 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: we can just add some seats to the bench. And 847 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: of course I would support that. And then Claire's can 848 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: go at any time, anytime, at anytime, because. 849 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 2: He is busy getting fluid out. He is the certified 850 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 2: Supreme Court. 851 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 3: Huci he for sale? No, he for sale? Say oh, 852 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 3: it's crazy. 853 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 10: He does work for free for a billionaire who is 854 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 10: sort of the equivalent of a plantation owner. 855 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 3: Just say it. 856 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 10: But anyway, let me say this, I have a devious 857 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 10: plan to change the Supreme Court that will help assistant. Okay, 858 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 10: can I tell you my plan? This is my fan 859 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 10: not that's my dog walk around background, it's not okay. 860 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 10: I think that if the Senate were to change hands 861 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 10: and they were to pass a rigorous, you know, ethics 862 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 10: requirement for the Supreme Court. This is the AOC bill 863 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 10: that's not made its way through the House, but if 864 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 10: it were to make its way through the Senate, that 865 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 10: would ban any gifts to Supreme Court justices, ban them 866 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 10: taking free trips, ban them from benefiting financially from their position, 867 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 10: ban their spouses from benefiting financially from their spouse's position 868 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 10: on the Supreme Court. My suspicion is Clarence Thomas and 869 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,479 Speaker 10: Alita would resign immediately. I think they would leave because 870 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 10: they want to live rich. Their living foul and they 871 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 10: want to keep doing it. That's one way to push 872 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 10: them out. And then the second piece is the Eli 873 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 10: Mastall piece. Add four more justices and just drown their 874 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 10: votes out. If there were four more justice there are 875 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 10: thirteen districts that they administered. There should be thirteen justices. 876 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 10: It should have been done long ago. They have too 877 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 10: many cases. They're doing too much in the shadow docket, 878 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 10: meaning they don't actually do a public hearing. So I 879 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 10: think add for more justices and a strict ethics rule. 880 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 10: You'll drive two of them out and and then over 881 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 10: and then just overtake them with votes. 882 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 2: Now, how they don't have stricter ethics than the president 883 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 2: of these United States who regularly violates themoument, Wake up, 884 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 2: I don't know that we're gonna be able to do that. 885 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: The other thing here, I don't really want to add 886 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: seats right now because your guy. 887 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's hold that thought. 888 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 4: Maybe this is why, Angela, it matters who you vote for. 889 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 4: Got you gotta vote some folks in who are pro democracy. 890 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 891 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 4: You gotta have all three branches of the government and 892 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 4: or the House to send it in, and of course 893 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 4: the presidency, and you do all this stuff and then stuff. 894 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, don't do it yet, don't do it because 895 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 10: they need to Trump need to stay alive, and they 896 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 10: two need to stay alive. We want Alito and Thomas 897 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 10: to stay all the way through Trump's term. We need 898 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 10: a Democrat in the White House when all this happens. 899 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 3: Amen, that is true. 900 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, on that note, you always calls to action. 901 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 5: Who cares about truth when the. 902 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,720 Speaker 13: Last morning seated. 903 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: This is how we in our show. 904 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: We like for our listeners, our viewers to go from 905 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: here and feel called and compelled to do something. So 906 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: Joy Reid, I will start with you, since you have 907 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: a show to do. 908 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 10: Yes, So my call to action is particularly for voters 909 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 10: in my former state of Florida. Florida, you still have 910 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 10: time if you have not registered to vote and you 911 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 10: have not taken interest in your primaries. There's some diabolical 912 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 10: bullshit going on in the great state of Florida. We 913 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 10: must take action in these primaries. In Florida twenty there 914 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 10: are eighteen hundred people running, including Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who 915 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 10: as a carpetbagger. You must stop her. It's important that 916 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 10: we keep that seat in the hands of an African 917 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 10: American because that is where that seat was drawn. And 918 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 10: then in Florida twenty four you've got some shenanigans. There 919 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 10: are too many people running. We have to discipline ourselves 920 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 10: to take our power in the primaries. So please take 921 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 10: your power in the primaries in Florida. Also in Missouri's 922 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 10: first district, please get Corey Bush over the line. It 923 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 10: sends a message to these big interests if you defeat 924 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 10: their candidates. So I am rooting hard for Corey and 925 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 10: I'm rooting for anybody black in Florida District twenty. That's 926 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 10: what I call to action. Please get in these primaries 927 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 10: and vote. 928 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 2: I love it. Garrison. 929 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 4: Okay, we are in Tennessee. Tennessee is Tequila Johnson we 930 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 4: played earlier and her colleague Charlene Oliver, who both started 931 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 4: the Tennessee Equity Alliance, say this all the time. Tennessee 932 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 4: is not a red state. It is a jerry mandard state. 933 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 4: It is a low voter turnout state. We have early 934 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 4: voting happening right now across the state. I'm looking specifically 935 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 4: at Tennessee's ninth congressional district, where our friend Justin Pearson 936 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 4: is running, and I am encouraging everyone my call to action. 937 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 4: If you live in the great state of Tennessee, are 938 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 4: you registered vote? Have you asked the people in your 939 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 4: life to vote? If you're in District nine, vote in 940 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 4: the primary, send a message that you're paying attention, that 941 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 4: you're locked in. So you know, we are less than 942 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 4: one hundred days out from the midterms, and so all 943 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 4: of my calls to action will be around voting and 944 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 4: getting ready to vote. 945 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 2: The SNOW member, I love it. 946 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: My call to action is first, I just want to 947 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: give a shout out to my friend Charlie Stanberry, who 948 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: won president of the National Bar Association. We worked on 949 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill together CBC Family for Life. Turns out we 950 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: are a little relevant around here. So I just want 951 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: to shout out, she won and she understands the assignment, 952 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: and so my call to action for you all is 953 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: to understand the assignment. There are little things that we 954 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: can do to make our organizations more relevant, stronger, developing 955 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: a foundation where they can actually build capacity and infrastructure. 956 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: It costs thirty dollars to join the NAACP. Thirty dollars, 957 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: not thirty dollars a month, not thirty dollars a day, 958 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: thirty dollars for the year. I would encourage you all 959 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: to really think about if thirty dollars is gonna cause 960 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: you harm when you know you're paying that every month 961 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 1: to Netflix a paramount or Stars or whatever else to 962 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: be is free. But me and joy Watch two be 963 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: every now and then. Don't judge us, but there are 964 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: a number of subscriptions that you have in your life 965 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: that costs more than that. This is an annual fee 966 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: of thirty dollars for my lawyers, my black lawyers at 967 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: home that are seeking to be the social engineers. The 968 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: Charles Hamilton Houston challenge us to be considered joining the 969 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: National Bar this year. Associate members are one hundred dollars. 970 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: Pre laws one hundred dollars. I will sponsor anybody in 971 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,760 Speaker 1: law school right now. You want to be a member, 972 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 1: not all of y'all, just one, just one. 973 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 3: You gotta find your money. 974 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,240 Speaker 4: I'll sponsor another. 975 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 3: About I like that good job, Gearson. 976 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 2: Your wife is gonna be proud. She want that award. 977 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 2: And you said, I'm putting my money where my mouth is. 978 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 9: That's right. 979 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 1: Retired folks won twenty five practice in less than five 980 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: years one to twenty five practice and more than five 981 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: years two fifty government, nonprofit lawyers, two fifty judicial two 982 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: fifty and life memberships are five thousand dollars. That's a lot, 983 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: but you get a discount on your registration fees. Shout 984 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: out to my discount on this year's registration fee with 985 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: six ninety nine instead of a thousand on site. 986 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 2: So it's working over time. 987 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: My only point is you can pay into something that 988 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: is going to protect you in the long run. We 989 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: have to be in survival mode. We got to be 990 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: in protection mode so we can get that thriving mode. 991 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: And we can't do that outside of our institutions, especially 992 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: for we're withholding our gifts only to share our criticism. 993 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: So that's my call to action. I'm grateful to you 994 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 2: offer your time. It's an amazing Wait. 995 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 10: Wait wait, so sister Jackie have assistance. 996 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 3: JAT. I have to call Jackie because you know I 997 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 3: got to get Yeah, I'm like, she's not here. 998 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 2: Joy, Since the. 999 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 3: Angela, Since the Angela. 1000 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 10: I will also sponsor on behalf of my baby cousin 1001 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 10: who is a warhouse man just up a Howard Law 1002 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 10: School graduate, So I will sponsor one on one? 1003 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 4: Is there? 1004 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 3: One? 1005 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 5: Is there? 1006 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 4: One? Is there for one? 1007 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: So there's three three got y'all, So you guys make 1008 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: sure you reach out to it at Native lampod on 1009 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: social enjoy Garrison and I got y'all. Now, please don't 1010 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: start sending us all your go fundme links, So we're 1011 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 1: gonna get this one membership. And I do want to 1012 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: remind you all to leave us a review and subscribe 1013 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: to Native lampid. We are available on all podcast platforms 1014 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: and YouTube. You can follow us on social media and 1015 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: substack or check out native lampod dot com. I'm Angela 1016 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: Rye alongside my very special co host today Garrison Hayes. 1017 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 2: Enjoy read Welcome home, y'all. 1018 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: There are ninety six days only until midterm elections. 1019 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 13: Let's go Welcome home to the Native landing on the 1020 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 13: podcast face that's and for greatness. Sixty minutes is so hit, 1021 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 13: not too long for the crave shit, high level combo 1022 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 13: politics in a way that you could taste it. Then 1023 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 13: got chested. Politics touches you even if you don't touch it. 1024 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 13: So get invested. 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