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Speaker 1: here at One Jets Drive, joined by former Jets quarterback
Speaker 1: Mark San says, great to see your brother.
Speaker 2: Great see you as well. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Jets Buccaneers practice. He took it all in.
Speaker 3: It was like a family reunion.
Speaker 2: It really was. Braylon Edwards was here, had a ton
Speaker 2: of former players, new Hall of Famer inductee Joe Clecco
Speaker 2: was incredible. I thought, it's it's so fun to come
Speaker 2: back and see the camaraderie, the fraternity that we got
Speaker 2: a chance to be a part of here. And seeing
Speaker 2: Leon Washington coaching, although he looks like a track coach now.
Speaker 2: I mean he's lost so much weight, he's so cut.
Speaker 2: My man looks like he's wasting away to nothing on me.
Speaker 2: I want to give him a cheeburg or something. He
Speaker 2: looked awesome. And seeing other people from even from the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2: So coach Tom Moore, who's been around the league for ever,
Speaker 2: he was here with us in twenty eleven, I want
Speaker 2: to say, as an assistant and I actually just went
Speaker 2: out to see him like three weeks ago just to
Speaker 2: watch some tape and really pick his brain, and he
Speaker 2: put me onto some some really good stuff to watch
Speaker 2: this coming year. And I really appreciate him and our
Speaker 2: friendship and our relationship. So it was great to see
Speaker 2: a myria out of folks.
Speaker 3: Did you talk to Eric Decker out there?
Speaker 2: I did talk to Eric Decker. He had a son
Speaker 2: that was a surprise visit. That was a surprise visit,
Speaker 2: and we had you know, we had a war of
Speaker 2: words about who's got the better hair. Yeah, so we'll
Speaker 2: leave that to the fans.
Speaker 3: Okay, you mentioned cheeseburgers.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Before.
Speaker 1: As far as Leon Washington is concerned, how many people
Speaker 1: Jets fans bring up Mark Sanchez and.
Speaker 2: Hot dogs quite a bit. It's usually around National hot
Speaker 2: Dog Day, and it's usually because I don't change and
Speaker 2: so Zebra doesn't change his stripes. Eric, That's what I'm
Speaker 2: telling you is after games at US, there'd be at
Speaker 2: the LA Memorial Coliseum, there'd be you know, twenty five
Speaker 2: different little hot dog stands on the street, and the
Speaker 2: nice little Hispanic gals were cooking up the bacon wrap
Speaker 2: hot dogs. So that's where they started. They were victory dogs. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: The real issue with the hot Dog story was We're
Speaker 2: going into Oakland. We'd won our first three games, we
Speaker 2: lost our next three. I was playing like crap, giving
Speaker 2: the ball away way too much, and I was kind
Speaker 2: of like not kind of. I was down in the
Speaker 2: dumps and I couldn't eat before the game. I was
Speaker 2: so in my own head. And it took Rex to
Speaker 2: get a clip from college, a couple of different college clips,
Speaker 2: and I think he worked with Eric Espinosa, a film
Speaker 2: guy at USC and he put this highlight tape together
Speaker 2: to kind of pump me out, yeah and remind me like, hey, dude,
Speaker 2: we drafted you number five for a reason. We never
Speaker 2: said this was going to be perfect. You're playing just
Speaker 2: take care of the ball a little better and go
Speaker 2: be this guy, and showed me the tape. Well after that,
Speaker 2: I'm re energized.
Speaker 1: Boom.
Speaker 2: We're playing a bad Oakland Raiders team at the time,
Speaker 2: and it was just what we needed. We beat them
Speaker 2: thirty eight, I mean beat the brakes off. It was
Speaker 2: like it was crazy. Reeves had a huge interception and
Speaker 2: it just blew the doors open. Right. So I'm so hungry.
Speaker 2: I didn't eat the night before the morning of the
Speaker 2: game and I'm dying on the sideline. So I asked
Speaker 2: the guys in the white shirts and blue shorts who help,
Speaker 2: you know, shagging balls and doing everything on the sidelines
Speaker 2: and water and everything, Hey, do you got any food?
Speaker 2: And they're like, yeah, we got some datorade bars or this,
Speaker 2: that and the other. I was like, no, I need
Speaker 2: some like food. I'm like really not feeling good and
Speaker 2: I'm out of the game at this point. And he goes,
Speaker 2: what do you want me to do? Run up and
Speaker 2: get you a cheeseburger. I said no, but I'll take
Speaker 2: a hot dog. I said, grab some mustard, you know,
Speaker 2: on the way out. And that's basically.
Speaker 3: Have you realized cameras were gonna.
Speaker 2: No, because they caught it during the time out. I
Speaker 2: even waited for a time out, and you see, I
Speaker 2: was all down, crouched low. And then I think it
Speaker 2: was Deardorf and Gumbole who called me out right. And
Speaker 2: now I'm in the booth and so I'm like, if
Speaker 2: that's I've thought about this before, If that situation ever happens,
Speaker 2: do I say anything, like if they show me, Because
Speaker 2: sometimes the producer will go in your ear during breaks
Speaker 2: and you're talking to your partner or whatever in the
Speaker 2: booth and he'll say, hey, we caught this cool clip.
Speaker 2: Check this out. And it's usually you know, guys talking
Speaker 2: smack to each other, or a coach pulling it, you know,
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll pulling in Geno Smith and giving him a
Speaker 2: pep talk. You know, when the cameras are off, supposedly
Speaker 2: right when the when the general audience is gone, you
Speaker 2: get this behind the scenes cut. Well, now I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, do I give them their privacy because
Speaker 2: I would have appreciated the privacy at the time, but
Speaker 2: you know, it went the way it went, and now
Speaker 2: it's around National Hot Talk Day. I get a great memory. Yo.
Speaker 1: So you're calling games on Fox, correct, You're doing a
Speaker 1: great job as a color analyst. What do you do
Speaker 1: when you go to teams complexes and talk to the
Speaker 1: folks as far as the production meetings are concerned, Because
Speaker 1: you used to be the guy every week that they'd
Speaker 1: be asking to talk to.
Speaker 2: Talk about pulling back the curtain and seeing everything that
Speaker 2: goes into it, and remembering how much I used to
Speaker 2: hate those meetings, hate them because they just anything. No,
Speaker 2: you don't I mean, you don't say anything, right, there's nothing.
Speaker 2: You just kind of like do the song and dance.
Speaker 2: And then if there's any guys who you know are
Speaker 2: guys or gals, whether it's you know, Sideline reporter or
Speaker 2: people in the booth or whoever who you like, know,
Speaker 2: like when Gruden comes to town, like he'll he'll kind
Speaker 2: of jam you up, like, hey, I've been seeing this
Speaker 2: play you guys have been running. Tell me a little
Speaker 2: bit about this fake trap to Sean Green and throw
Speaker 2: a little sting route to Brailen Edwards right off the
Speaker 2: ear of that will linebacker man, I like that route,
Speaker 2: you know, And he give you that eye and you're
Speaker 2: just kind of like, well, shoot, I gotta tell him something,
Speaker 2: you know. And you've got to be able to trust
Speaker 2: those people. And so the most important thing is having
Speaker 2: a relationship with people prior. If you're going in cold
Speaker 2: it's just like a cold call with sales, like, hey,
Speaker 2: you guys want some office space, we got twenty five
Speaker 2: hundred square feet. Like people are generally gonna say no,
Speaker 2: You're gonna get a lot more nose than Yes's. But
Speaker 2: when you have relationships with it doesn't matter if it's
Speaker 2: trainers or players or coaches or whoever. It just helps
Speaker 2: build a bridge to that player, and that's all you're
Speaker 2: trying to do and remind them that number one. No
Speaker 2: matter what you say, I would never say publicly without
Speaker 2: like an okay from you, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: because I don't want to I want to do this
Speaker 2: for a while. I don't want to be the guy
Speaker 2: who just goes spewing information and whatever. So some stuff
Speaker 2: you'll check with the coach, like are you cool if
Speaker 2: we explain that story, And a lot of times the
Speaker 2: coaches or players will say, you know, I'd rather keep
Speaker 2: that close to the best, or hey, ask me tomorrow
Speaker 2: on the field and I'll let you know if I'm
Speaker 2: comfortable with that or whatever. But it's you know, when
Speaker 2: you go into you know, talk to a player you've
Speaker 2: never talked to before and they're younger and they didn't
Speaker 2: watch the Jets in twenty ten, Like these guys don't care.
Speaker 2: What am I gonna say? Give my resume, I'm Mark Santa.
Speaker 3: Yeah you haven't played with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a lot of guys will know, but some
Speaker 2: guys are just completely oblivious. And I don't blame it,
Speaker 2: like they don't need to know. I don't. It doesn't
Speaker 2: hurt my feelings at all. But you're just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: where's my ind with this player? How do I build
Speaker 2: a bridge with this player in these twelve minutes we
Speaker 2: have together? Right? It's nearly impossible, but you do your
Speaker 2: best with the relationships you have, and hopefully you can
Speaker 2: a lot of times. You know, what really helps is
Speaker 2: when you say something the same way Gruden did to me.
Speaker 2: And this is probably why I've done it subconsciously, but
Speaker 2: when you identify something that they've done well and you
Speaker 2: can tell they worked on it. It's a specific pass rush,
Speaker 2: it's a specific move, and you can identify it by name. Right,
Speaker 2: the players will immediately respect you because they know you're
Speaker 2: watching and they know you're not just surface level tree
Speaker 2: top bs, you know what I mean, Like this guy's
Speaker 2: really watching the tape. Damn. I worked on that move
Speaker 2: quite a bit this offseason. Now I got a lot
Speaker 2: to say about this move. You know where I got
Speaker 2: this move? I got this from my high school coach
Speaker 2: and we worked you know, in Boca Raton, Florida this
Speaker 2: off season. Da da And now you get a cool story,
Speaker 2: whether it's from me, Kevin Cooler, Laura Oakman, like whoever
Speaker 2: explains the story. You just want to get the information
Speaker 2: and hopefully they're comfortable with it. And then you know
Speaker 2: how it works. You've been in the media game forever.
Speaker 2: Story sell you know that the yes, no questions, the
Speaker 2: black and white said blah blah blah, it doesn't work.
Speaker 2: You want the color analyst stuff. And so that's kind
Speaker 2: of what you're digging for with a level of respect, right,
Speaker 2: you don't want to intrude on their privacy.
Speaker 3: Up in the booth.
Speaker 1: How do you balance being technical and taking people inside
Speaker 1: versus okay, right, maybe there are people out there that
Speaker 1: I'm talking to who aren't so much into that and
Speaker 1: all those of the game, like there are the hardcore
Speaker 1: guys who like, right, Sanchez, you better tell me exactly
Speaker 1: what's happening in thatch protection.
Speaker 2: And so there's a fine line of getting very technical
Speaker 2: and in the weeds, right, going very insider. But you
Speaker 2: can't be there too long because you're also talking to
Speaker 2: the soccer mom. You're talking to, you know, the guy
Speaker 2: who or gal who lives in their parents' basement and
Speaker 2: has all the answers, you know, like you got to
Speaker 2: talk to them as well. You got to talk to
Speaker 2: the young kids, you know, talk to a wide range
Speaker 2: of personalities and opinions, and so I do my best
Speaker 2: to weave in and out of some of those things.
Speaker 2: And if you'll notice a lot of times on our broadcast,
Speaker 2: you won't see a ton of all twenty two okay
Speaker 2: for a reason because a lot of people haven't seen that.
Speaker 2: When you see that, it's like seeing like maybe not
Speaker 2: like a police body cam, but like some sort of
Speaker 2: weird camera angle that just kind of catches you off guard. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're you're like, whoa, how do I even identify
Speaker 2: who's who? In the zoo? Here? Like this is crazy?
Speaker 2: What is this satellite photo of this game? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean? So we do it every once in
Speaker 2: a while when we're coming out of a break. You'll notice,
Speaker 2: coming out of a break, I have a chance to explain,
Speaker 2: and you don't want to explain too much because if
Speaker 2: you're explaining, you're losing, almost like a debate, Right, I
Speaker 2: gotta explain myself. I'm getting my butt kicked. So there's
Speaker 2: like fine points in or specific points rather in a
Speaker 2: broadcast that you can really dive deep right out of
Speaker 2: commercial when you know the football people are locked in
Speaker 2: wanting to see that play and want a reason for
Speaker 2: that play working not working. In the interception, the touchdown,
Speaker 2: what set up the big play? Boom, Mark, go ahead,
Speaker 2: b mark like you're in the quarterback room in twenty ten,
Speaker 2: and tell me why that worked. The rest of it
Speaker 2: is a lot of in and out, a little bit
Speaker 2: of predicting, a little bit of you know, diagnosing formations
Speaker 2: and personnels and kind of narrowing down what the offense
Speaker 2: or defense might do in a situation. And then the
Speaker 2: other part is make the audience the quarterback, pull the
Speaker 2: curtain back, sit them next to you at a barstool
Speaker 2: at a beer at a beer hall or a pub
Speaker 2: or something, and explain the game. Hey man, this is
Speaker 2: a two minute drill. You know what the most important
Speaker 2: thing in a two minute drill is the first play.
Speaker 2: Get a positive play on first down. That's huge, huge
Speaker 2: little things like four minute offense. You got the the
Speaker 2: game in the bag. Game's basically over. You got to
Speaker 2: milk the clock and run this thing out. Running backs,
Speaker 2: two hands on the football, avoid balancing the ball outside
Speaker 2: because you get closer to the sidelines than it stops
Speaker 2: the clock. Now my only caveat to that is if
Speaker 2: you can get a first down, but you have to
Speaker 2: go out of bounds, are you're going to get me
Speaker 2: four more downs to waste clock? I'll let you go
Speaker 2: out of bounds. That's the one asterisk to never go
Speaker 2: out of bounds. Informant stuff like that that people want
Speaker 2: to know, and they pick things up like that and
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, that was cool. So I hope My
Speaker 2: only hope is you try and please everybody. It's nearly impossible, right.
Speaker 2: Tom Moore actually taught me this. Jesus Christ couldn't even
Speaker 2: please twelve people, right, and he's arguably the greatest guy
Speaker 2: to ever live, right, So you can't please everybody. But
Speaker 2: I'd like him to walk away with a little bit
Speaker 2: more football knowledge, right, and to laugh a little bit,
Speaker 2: whether it's at my expense or somebody's expense, all in
Speaker 2: good fun. And to have a genuinely entertaining experience watching
Speaker 2: a football game, a game that I love.
Speaker 3: How much do you genuinely enjoy doing that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: It's funny. Somebody asked me that right now. And I
Speaker 2: don't think I fell in love with it till this
Speaker 2: past year, really till my second year the first year,
Speaker 2: I genuinely felt like I was treading water. I was
Speaker 2: really nervous. I was scared to misdiagnose the play. I
Speaker 2: was scared to pronounce the name wrong, and there was
Speaker 2: there's a lot of nerves in there because you feel
Speaker 2: like you have to be this expert, right, you have
Speaker 2: to be like perfect in there and call it perfect,
Speaker 2: and it's so not true. And once you start watching
Speaker 2: the game, it kind of unfolds for you. And if
Speaker 2: you put in the prep, you shouldn't be nervous. You
Speaker 2: should be anxious and want the thing to happen, just
Speaker 2: like when you were playing. I can't wait for kickoff,
Speaker 2: not because I'm scared, because I want this dang thing
Speaker 2: to be over. I've been studying my butt off for
Speaker 2: a few days now, like let's let's go play this
Speaker 2: thing and win it and get out of there. So
Speaker 2: that's kind of how I started to feel really after
Speaker 2: those two London games last year. I thought Kevin and
Speaker 2: I and Laura as well, really got into a groove.
Speaker 2: And when you're in a good back and forth dance
Speaker 2: with your partner and he's explaining you know the who
Speaker 2: and the what, and I'm explaining the why and the how,
Speaker 2: and you can kind of get in and out in
Speaker 2: between plays. You feel like you're in a groove. It's
Speaker 2: just like playing ball. It's just like, dang, we converted
Speaker 2: like six third downs in a row. We are rolling
Speaker 2: byes like, let's keep it going, keep dialing them up,
Speaker 2: you know, And so that's when it gets really fun.
Speaker 2: But I think after last year, I really really started
Speaker 2: to enjoy it more.
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Speaker 1: You're recently married took place in Mexico. Correct, new hardware, gratulations,
Speaker 1: new hardware. All right, how has it been the first
Speaker 1: a few months? And and do you have any funny
Speaker 1: story from the wedding?
Speaker 2: Fun stories from the wedding? Yeah, because Nick Mangold's not here,
Speaker 2: I have a good story from the wedding. But if
Speaker 2: anybody needs any marriage advice, I'm you know, two months in,
Speaker 2: I got all the answers, so just let me know,
Speaker 2: hit me up on Instagram or just kidding. Do We're
Speaker 2: figuring it out just like everybody else. But I'm very lucky,
Speaker 2: very fortunate, very blessed, and Perry planned a hell of
Speaker 2: a wedding. I'm just glad she invited me. So that's
Speaker 2: kind of my line now because it was. It was incredible.
Speaker 3: But at one black and white photos they're cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, that's all her too. I mean she did
Speaker 2: the whole thing. Yeah, she she every detail, she nailed it,
Speaker 2: and I was really proud of her. So she's great.
Speaker 2: But so Nick Nick Mangold is at the wedding. My
Speaker 2: oldest brother is also named Nick. Before so, Perry did
Speaker 2: her dance with her dad, I did my dance with
Speaker 2: my mom and then there was like this little lag
Speaker 2: time and Edda James. At last the song came on
Speaker 2: and I know that it's my brother's wedding song. That's
Speaker 2: like his song with his wife Pela. So I started
Speaker 2: screaming across the thing. There was like two hundred plus
Speaker 2: people at this deal, and I'm screaming over the music. Nick, Nick,
Speaker 2: you know, Nick, come here. And so Nick, my brother,
Speaker 2: and my sister in law, his wife Paula, they go
Speaker 2: up and have their dance and it wasn't planned, but
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, just jump in, like let's roll.
Speaker 2: This is your guys' song, Like nobody else is on
Speaker 2: the dance floor. Enjoy this because you guys are coming
Speaker 2: up on like twenty years together. So it's really cool.
Speaker 2: And that was my senior year of high school or whatever.
Speaker 2: So so Mangold comes running up to the dance floor.
Speaker 2: He's like, what's up, bib, What can I do? What
Speaker 2: can I total Mangold fashion, Like what do you need, babe?
Speaker 2: Cause he's the best of all time at times like
Speaker 2: a Golden Retriever, like just like so loyal and so
Speaker 2: awesome and same kind of hair as a golden Retriever,
Speaker 2: which is nice except for the shedding. But he runs
Speaker 2: up and it's like, what do you need? What do
Speaker 2: you need? And I was like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 2: Like not that why are you at the wedding, but
Speaker 2: like why are you on the dance floor? This is
Speaker 2: for Nick? And he goes, I'm Nick, and I'm like
Speaker 2: you are Nick?
Speaker 1: Oh? Nick got it and then he had just.
Speaker 2: Into the abyss. All right.
Speaker 3: Thet's soft Jets got a new quarterback, Aaron Rogers.
Speaker 1: I heard, I heard what did you think about what
Speaker 1: you saw today? And when everybody in the building wasn't
Speaker 1: coming up to you and talking to you, so it's
Speaker 1: probably hard to take in no practice, Yeah, what did
Speaker 1: you see?
Speaker 2: I thought one of the best throws I've seen in
Speaker 2: a while, and it's no surprise that's coming from him.
Speaker 2: Was that ball down the middle in two minutes towards
Speaker 2: the end of the day, Randall cop Holy smoke, And
Speaker 2: I mean it makes total sense because they've done it
Speaker 2: for so long and he makes it look effortless. But
Speaker 2: that is like I can't wait for the coaches to
Speaker 2: watch it on tape with the players and see the
Speaker 2: younger players like that's it, because that's what you're searching
Speaker 2: for in training camp, right, You're trying to find your identity.
Speaker 2: You're trying to, you know, see who can make it,
Speaker 2: who can play man coverage, who can block, who can hit,
Speaker 2: who can tackle, who can run, who can catch? But
Speaker 2: you also want to get good tape on film, and
Speaker 2: coach Sola says this the silent tape when you watch it,
Speaker 2: who are you? And you want to be able to
Speaker 2: put together some teach tape, meaning the tape that you're
Speaker 2: going to use later on in the season to install plays. Hey,
Speaker 2: remember way back in August when we ran this play
Speaker 2: in two minutes. We're thinking about activating this one again.
Speaker 2: Here's what it's supposed to look like. And that's the
Speaker 2: curriculum for that play. And that's cool to watch because
Speaker 2: the guy's been doing it for almost twenty years. He's
Speaker 2: been doing it for almost a decade with Randall Kopp,
Speaker 2: like it makes so much sense. And then you see
Speaker 2: the young guys like, Okay, I got it. That's the blueprint.
Speaker 2: The guys who are studs already that are coming into
Speaker 2: their own like Gara Wilson, Okay, that's it, right, I
Speaker 2: want to do that next. You know what I mean, like,
Speaker 2: it's my turn now, boom, let's do it. And that's
Speaker 2: that creates the camaraderie, that creates the relationship you want
Speaker 2: between quarterback and receiver. That's that just puts it on
Speaker 2: display for the whole team. And if Aaron is accountable
Speaker 2: that way, the whole team is unnotice you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And that's that's amazing.
Speaker 1: How do you like the way he handles himself out
Speaker 1: there on the field.
Speaker 2: He's very like I know him pretty well right from
Speaker 2: growing up and interacting with some great investment ventures and
Speaker 2: ARCS three. But he's he's a relational guy. He's not
Speaker 2: like a ton of surface level type guy, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. He's not like a small top kind
Speaker 2: of guy. He will be if he has to, but
Speaker 2: like he's much deeper than that. He wants to know why,
Speaker 2: he has questions about things, and to some people he
Speaker 2: can be polarizing. I'll tell you what. The best thing
Speaker 2: that's maybe happened to him for his career and post
Speaker 2: career if he ever ages because he looks is hard
Speaker 2: knocks because it humanizes him and shows who he really is.
Speaker 2: Because he has this and we talked about it before practice,
Speaker 2: but how do you be his teammate and also a
Speaker 2: fan of his, you know what I mean, those are
Speaker 2: two different forces kind of colliding.
Speaker 3: It has to be intimidating for you, and it's.
Speaker 2: So intimidating for those young guys. So what does he do.
Speaker 2: He drops his guard and brings him in, puts his
Speaker 2: arm around you, says, congratulates you on something, or praises
Speaker 2: you for something. Like these guys run around in some ways,
Speaker 2: you're like a little bit of a puppy, like you
Speaker 2: just want a little praise. You know. Some guys need
Speaker 2: to be patted on the butt a little bit. Some
Speaker 2: guys need to be kicked in the ass a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know. And he's out there playing quarterback coach psychologist
Speaker 2: to try and build bridges with all these new players
Speaker 2: who he knows are going to help him play well
Speaker 2: and the team win. So it's he's doing a masterful job.
Speaker 2: And it's I mean, it's a great case study on
Speaker 2: being the quarterback and all the hats you have to
Speaker 2: wear or you choose to wear by signing up for
Speaker 2: that position. And there's arguable nobody better. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: unbelievad talent wise. I mean, it's a thrower of the
Speaker 2: football until Mahomes came along, Like nobody touched this guy. Yeah, so,
Speaker 2: I don't know, what do.
Speaker 1: You appreciate most of what he's already accomplished during his
Speaker 1: career eighteen year run there in Green Bay.
Speaker 2: I mean the longevity number one, the health, the way
Speaker 2: he's been able to take care of his body, the
Speaker 2: youthfulness and joy you can see he gets. I mean,
Speaker 2: clearly he's on the back nine of his career, right,
Speaker 2: It's not like he's got twenty more years in him.
Speaker 2: But he's appreciating all the little things that a lot
Speaker 2: of young guys take for granted. You know that you
Speaker 2: just assume this is going to keep going and it
Speaker 2: doesn't always keep going. And so when you watch a
Speaker 2: guy like that really lean in to the young guys
Speaker 2: and remind them, you know, the little details, the nuances
Speaker 2: they're going over playfakes last night and which is a run?
Speaker 2: Which is a pass? That was cool? That's that's like
Speaker 2: gold for Zach and Boil and like that is that
Speaker 2: is training camp. That they're in a capsule in a
Speaker 2: vacuum is training camp. The things you're gonna miss most
Speaker 2: Remember that time we were bagging on Aaron for his fakes,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna be talking about that until they're fifty.
Speaker 2: Like that's such a cool experience for them. So I'm
Speaker 2: I'm proud of him. I think he's he's a stud.
Speaker 2: And listen, it's I see it both ways, right, I
Speaker 2: see this thing starting off amazing and like four and two,
Speaker 2: five and one, And then you look at the schedule too,
Speaker 2: You're like, dang, there's some good ball clubs in there.
Speaker 2: You'll be like, ah, where are they going to be
Speaker 2: at the break? You know, And so I'm very curious
Speaker 2: to see how things pan out. But I mean with
Speaker 2: that guy, you always got a chance. That's the bottom line,
Speaker 2: and everybody feels that, right, no matter what, we're gonna
Speaker 2: give eight the ball. Yeah, I like our chances. Let's roll.
Speaker 3: How do you describe that personality?
Speaker 1: You talked about attentionality, like how he's above surface level conversations.
Speaker 1: He comes across as a very confident person. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but also at the same time he's super intelligent. But
Speaker 1: also you combine all that with all his physical prowers,
Speaker 1: he's still humble.
Speaker 2: Totally humble, he really is, And I think that's what's
Speaker 2: so great about the show is it's humanizing him and
Speaker 2: showing his real personality, joking around with the players, joking
Speaker 2: around about himself, being self deprecating, like that's Aaron, And
Speaker 2: I'm glad people get to see that. I'm glad that
Speaker 2: it's really shown up. I think it's good for the
Speaker 2: other players to see that, yes, you're this guy, but
Speaker 2: you're also one of the guys, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And you walk in the room head and shoulders above everybody.
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, that's our guy, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: But he's also one of the guys. And there's a
Speaker 2: unique art to that, and it is not easy because
Speaker 2: you're you're the guy and one of the guys. That's
Speaker 2: It's a lot going on there.
Speaker 3: So how quick can this come together?
Speaker 2: Because when's September tenth, eleventh? But Monday night? Right?
Speaker 3: And also what is he entering as far as what
Speaker 3: are the twenty.
Speaker 2: Well, shoot, I mean you said it right there. I
Speaker 2: said the tenth. Because our first game is rams at Seahawks.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, you'll be on the West coast.
Speaker 2: But they're gonna be Monday night, Monday night. Hey, welcome
Speaker 2: to New York Man, Hard knocks Monday night football game one.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like it's just and it's
Speaker 2: so New York. Yeah, so the way it should go.
Speaker 2: But it's just a reminder like, Okay, here we go beat.
Speaker 3: But have you ever taken it in a theater with him?
Speaker 2: No? But we need to because I know he's been.
Speaker 2: He's seen a bunch of shows. I got to see
Speaker 2: a couple more. Use every off season I usually try
Speaker 2: and get four or five in so I gotta hustle.
Speaker 2: I was on honeymoon, dude ruined everything.
Speaker 1: Remember the headline when you were drafted. I said, from
Speaker 1: Hollywood to Broadway today Sanchez, oh boy? But from Green
Speaker 1: Bay to Broadway.
Speaker 2: I mean Chico both small town. Like that's so curious
Speaker 2: about his thoughts. And I know he's taken in a
Speaker 2: lot of what the city has to offer. And I'm
Speaker 2: happy he ass like once again he gets it. He's
Speaker 2: on your eighteen nineteen like he knows that that time
Speaker 2: in the off season is valuable. It's not like you
Speaker 2: can't be seen out because you're the young quarterback and
Speaker 2: you just need to be in this cave studying your playbook.
Speaker 2: One that's not realistic and two he's above all that,
Speaker 2: like he's you know what I mean, he's doing it
Speaker 2: just right.
Speaker 1: All right, we gotta let you roll. You're always gracious
Speaker 1: with your time. Let's end here. We've talked a lot
Speaker 1: about Rogers. What do you make of the landscape of
Speaker 1: the AFC? When you talk about Josh Allens inside this
Speaker 1: division mentioned Patrick Mahomes, before you got Joe Burrell, you
Speaker 1: got Justin Herbert. The list goes on as far as
Speaker 1: you can talk about the young quarterbacks. Trevor Lawrence, you
Speaker 1: got de Shaan Watson.
Speaker 2: Yep, and she's stagged now his bottleneck. What do you
Speaker 2: think it really is?
Speaker 3: What do you think of the quarterback position?
Speaker 2: Well, I think the best thing that Rogers has to
Speaker 2: offer is his experience, and the only one with even
Speaker 2: close to that, probably, I'd say, is is Mahomes, right,
Speaker 2: because he's been there twice now, been there three times,
Speaker 2: one two of them with Super Bowls. So that's a
Speaker 2: guy who knows what it feels like, taste like, smells like,
Speaker 2: looks like like. That guy gets it, so does Aaron.
Speaker 2: I'd argue that those two are the most experienced in
Speaker 2: the conference. But the biggest thing too, and we've had
Speaker 2: two case studies on in the last three or so years.
Speaker 2: But when Brady went to Tampa Bay and re energized
Speaker 2: that Sleeping Giant and that defense and the skill positions
Speaker 2: they had, sounds familiar. Yeah, same thing with Matt Stafford
Speaker 2: going to LA that defense, the skill positions they had.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's a very similar blueprint. Plus you
Speaker 2: just signed Dalvin Cook. I mean, that's gonna be problems
Speaker 2: for defenses with those two backs in the backfield, between
Speaker 2: Breese Hall and Dalvin Cook, that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a matchup nightmare for a lot of teams.
Speaker 2: And you're gonna get a nineteen year Veta. They're calling
Speaker 2: the plays and dialing up Okay, what do we want
Speaker 2: to do versus this specific package? I like it. I
Speaker 2: like my shot there. I know there's a lot of
Speaker 2: young studs and young guns in the AFC, but experience
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, with the way he's
Speaker 2: throwing it still, that's that's pretty scary. Great senior brother, Great,
Speaker 2: see you as well.