1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: As a DVD business goes down, it's going to evolve 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: into the video on demand business. Stephen Hirsch Vivid Entertainment. 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, sex workers are just 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: regular people. Our culture has to end the stigma surrounding 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: not just sex workers, but sex itself. Only then will 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: real change come. Asa Akira performer. 7 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: Information just comes and goes so quickly, or it can 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: be misconstrued. It can be a very sarcastic person, and 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: sometimes people take every word I say literally. Sasha Gray performer. 10 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 4: No one really buys records anymore. You can look at 11 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 4: sales and do that mack real quick. Unfortunately, it's fast 12 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 4: food in the music industry. People don't ingest full records anymore. 13 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: Tommy Lee musician. 14 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 5: Porno is the last form of entertainment that is a 15 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 5: multi billion dollar business that doesn't take care of the 16 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 5: people that created. 17 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 6: There are vocational schools for everything. 18 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 7: There ought to be one for porn. Kid Rock. 19 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 8: I will never spread my legs in this industry again. 20 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 9: Jenna Jamison, Welcome to General World. Welcome back to General World. 21 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 9: I'm your host, Molly Lambert. This is episode twelve. Heel Turn. 22 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 9: There's only two types of people in the world, the 23 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 9: ones that entertain and the ones that observe. Thus spake 24 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 9: the great American philosopher Britney spears on the title track 25 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 9: of her two thousand and eight album Circus The Year 26 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 9: After the First iPhone is released. On January twelfth, two 27 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 9: thousand and eight, the twenty fifth Annual Adult Video News 28 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 9: Awards ceremony is held at the Mandalay Bay Event Center 29 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 9: in Paradise, Nevada, on the southern end of the Las 30 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 9: Vegas Strip. Thirty four year old Jenna Jamison takes the 31 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 9: stage at the Avens in a necklace with strands of 32 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 9: dripping diamonds, black platform heels, and a long silk leopard 33 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 9: print dress with super skinny straps that I'd bet money 34 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 9: is by designer Roberto Cavalli. Jenna's feathered blonde hair is 35 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 9: piled up on the right side of her head with 36 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 9: bangs swooping over her right eye. She sports her trademark 37 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 9: rim of dark eyeliner and shadow with a frosted nude lip. 38 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 9: Jenna goes up to the podium mic to present an 39 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 9: award named after her, he Jenna Jamison Crossover Star of 40 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 9: the Year Award. 41 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 8: Wow. 42 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 10: This is monumental. 43 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 8: Really, I remember getting in this industry when I was 44 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 8: eighteen years old. I know a lot of you girls 45 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 8: are brand new and this doesn't seem like much to you, 46 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 8: but I remember when they were about five hundred people 47 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 8: in the audience. So this is huge and I feel 48 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 8: really proud that I kind of paved the way for 49 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 8: this kind of mainstream exposure. 50 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 10: And it's apropos that this award is named after me. 51 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 10: The crossover Star of the year. Right now, it's been 52 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 10: a little bit. 53 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 8: Of a rocky year for me. I think you're all aware. 54 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 8: I've been in the tabloids. Everyone's speculating about what's going 55 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 8: on with Jenna. 56 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 10: Why is she so? Why is she crazy? Why is 57 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 10: she divorced? Oh wait, I'm not divorced. Yeah, it's been 58 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 10: a crazy year for me. But I do have to 59 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 10: say just to bring you all up to speed, because 60 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 10: I love you all. You're like my family. 61 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 8: Everything's beautiful, everything is amazing in my life. 62 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 10: I have a beautiful man who takes care of me 63 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 10: and accepts me. I'm lucky. 64 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 8: I'm so lucky, and I really want to be honest 65 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 8: for a sec and I want to let everybody know 66 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 8: that I know us Weekly came out it said that 67 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 8: I was retiring, I was done with the industry, and 68 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 8: then I had to come back and talk about the 69 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 8: fact that I wasn't done because Club Jenna is one 70 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 8: of the biggest forces in this industry by far in 71 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 8: a way. 72 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 10: But but honesty is key, and honesty is key. 73 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 8: I will never ever ever spread my legs again in 74 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 8: this industry ever. But I love every one of you 75 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 8: and thanks for the support. So moving right along, the 76 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 8: nominees for the Crossover Star of the Year are. 77 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 9: The audience, made up almost entirely of people who work 78 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 9: in the adult industry, gasps in shock at Jenna's sudden 79 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 9: heel turn. They are stunned by her blatant show of 80 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 9: disrespect for the business that made her a wealthy and 81 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 9: famous superstar. The audience starts booing Jenna. Her new boyfriend, 82 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 9: Tito Ortiz is in the audience. He throws up a 83 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 9: piece sign on camera in support of Jenna. Then Jenna 84 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 9: lists the names of the nominees for the Jenna Jamison 85 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 9: Crossover Star of the Year Award and announces that this 86 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 9: year's winner is Stormy Daniels. Stormy Daniels comes on stage 87 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 9: to accept her award from Jenna and breaks the tension 88 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 9: in the room. 89 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: I love you, Jenna, but I'm going to spread my 90 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 3: legs a little longer Stormy Daniels performer. 91 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 9: The reaction from folks in the porn industry to Jenna's 92 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 9: big announcement is swift. 93 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 11: I don't know what the hell is going on with 94 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 11: miss Jamison. When I discovered her, she was a beautiful, 95 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 11: little nineteen year old girl. I didn't recognize her at 96 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 11: the AVIN Awards last year. She had bones sticking out, 97 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 11: but this year her face doesn't even look like Jenna. 98 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 11: Randy West performer. 99 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 9: Meanwhile, another retired porn superstar, Heather Hunter, is still trying 100 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 9: to break into mainstream rap music. She finds that while 101 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 9: artists love writing rap lyrics about her and being seen 102 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 9: with her, that doesn't necessarily help her when it comes 103 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 9: to promoting her own music. 104 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 12: What people may not expect is how serious I am 105 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 12: about this. I really want people to take me seriously. 106 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 12: Being retired from the adult industry nearly thirteen years ago, 107 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 12: I think I've done enough in the mainstream business and 108 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 12: I want to be accepted as an equal as an artist. 109 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 12: I'm going from my respect whether they give it to 110 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 12: me or not. Heather Hunter. 111 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 9: Performer Heather Hunter puts out a rap album called Double 112 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 9: H The Unexpected, working with big name producers like Scott 113 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 9: Storch and DJ Premier. She gets back into making art too, 114 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 9: debuting her Hunter collection of paintings at the Front Street 115 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 9: Gallery in Brooklyn. 116 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 12: When you come from the adult film business, people feel 117 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 12: like that's all you. But I made it happen. I 118 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 12: got into music and signed a deal with Island Records, 119 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 12: and then I signed with Tommy Boy Records. After that, 120 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 12: I've worked with Scott Storch, DJ Premier, y Cleb Jean, 121 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 12: and all my friends that were supporting what I was 122 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 12: doing and helping me change my life. I wrote a 123 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 12: novel and I opened an art gallery in Brooklyn. I 124 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 12: had a show on Playboy TV with Sir Mix a Lot, 125 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 12: and I ended up getting my own show on BET 126 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 12: called The Peep Show. I have two online magazines. You 127 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 12: have a lot of adult stars that can't get into 128 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 12: magazines like Smooth and Maxim. I'm creating publications to showcase 129 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 12: them in a very classy way. 130 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 9: Heather Hunter, like Jenna, is in many ways almost too 131 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 9: ahead of her time. Pretty soon every adult performer will 132 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 9: also have to be a multimedia brand with several income streams. 133 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 9: While the contract girl model will start to become outmoded, 134 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 9: the cult of personality around certain cornstars won't die out 135 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 9: with the collapse of the studio system. It will just 136 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 9: shift online. Just as Jenna steps down from her post 137 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 9: as the queen of porn, a new class of porn 138 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 9: stars inspired by Jenna are coming up. These new two 139 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 9: thousands porn stars have a different route into the industry 140 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 9: as well. The old path that Jenna and most female 141 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 9: performers took from stripping to girly mags to adult movies 142 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 9: has been washed away. Now there's just one way into 143 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 9: the porn industry, the Internet. 144 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to segregate it from art, because for me, 145 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: it is art. I think a lot of people don't 146 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: look at it that way, but I do. 147 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 9: In two thousand and six, a new class of performers 148 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 9: that will come to define the Internet era of porn 149 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 9: enter the industry. Just as Jenna was the porn star 150 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 9: who bridged the VHS and DVD eras, these new stars 151 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 9: will emerge as the figureheads of the Internet era pornography. 152 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 9: One such performer, is a Jean Luke Dard loving goth 153 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 9: girl whose stage name is Sasha Gray. Born Marina Ann 154 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 9: Hans a Pisces. She grows up in a working class 155 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 9: family in Sacramento, California, and gets into porn because she 156 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 9: feels like she isn't seeing the kind of content she 157 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 9: wants and aims to make it herself. Sasha Gray makes 158 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 9: her name with intense extreme sex scenes. She works with 159 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 9: performers like Rocco Safreddi, who'd recently returned from retirement. A 160 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 9: performer named Joanna Angel, a Jewish capricorn from New York 161 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 9: born Joanna mostav starts her own alt porn website called 162 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 9: Burning Angel after working for the similarly themed punk porn 163 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 9: adult pinup site Suicide Girls and being a contract girl 164 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 9: at VCA. Burning Angel brings Club Jenna's model of performers 165 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 9: running their own adult studio imprints to the Internet. Another 166 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 9: new superstar is Assa a kir Uh. 167 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: I have sex for money, so I'm not a feminist. 168 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: I portray sexual fantasies on screen for entertainment, so I'm 169 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: not a feminist. I like to wear makeup and feel sexy, 170 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: so I'm not a feminist. Fuck you, I'm a feminist. 171 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 9: Asa Takagami is a five foot one brunette capricorn from 172 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 9: New York City. The only child of a photographer father 173 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 9: and businesswoman mother, Assa spends her childhood between New York 174 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 9: and Tokyo. She goes to a private school for international 175 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 9: students her freshman year, gets expelled for low grades and 176 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 9: finishes at a public school. 177 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: There was a time in my life when I had 178 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: a five year plan. I was gonna do porn for 179 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: two years, save my money and use it to open 180 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: a yoga studio. But now it's a decade later, and 181 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: I barely even do yoga anymore. 182 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 9: Takagami joins the porn industry in two thousand and six 183 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 9: using the stage name Asa Akira. She uses her real 184 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 9: first name, which translates to Mourning in Japanese, and takes 185 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 9: her last name from the nineteen eighty eight cyberpunk anime 186 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 9: classic Akira. Akira takes on the position of intelligent, charismatic, 187 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 9: feminist public spokesperson for the porn industry, newly vacated by Jenna. 188 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: The fans and supporters are not the problem. It's the 189 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: people who are anti porn or at least wished to 190 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: appear so. By anti porn, I don't mean someone who 191 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: doesn't watch porn. I mean someone who assumes all sex 192 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: workers must be damaged or morally corrupt. I mean someone 193 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: who says, oh, but you're too pretty to do porn, 194 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: refusing to take a woman at her word when she 195 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: says she chooses to do porn because she wants to. Well, 196 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure many of these people are perfectly nice and 197 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,239 Speaker 2: well intentioned, and some of them probably even watch porn. 198 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: They're adding to the stigma surrounding sex workers, and we 199 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 2: are not second class citizens. 200 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 9: Sasha Gray also goes on the Tyra Banks Show, where 201 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 9: Tyra gives her the exact same full court press that 202 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 9: Jerry Springer once gave Jenna. Sasha Gray defends herself in 203 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 9: the industry in her trademark deadpan goth style, and Tyra, 204 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 9: like Jerry, totally ignores what she's saying. As smartphones become 205 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 9: popular in tandem with tube sites, now anyone can access 206 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 9: a vast, secret world of pornographic content in their pocket 207 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 9: whenever they want. As porn becomes more accessible than ever, 208 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 9: getting an audience to pay attention to new releases is 209 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 9: also harder than has ever been, so porn, which has 210 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 9: always relied on gimmicky premises to catch attention, goes all in. 211 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 9: Due to how fast culture moves now online, the content 212 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 9: cycle is hitting warp speed. So a few days after 213 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 9: the two thousand and eight Republican National Convention makes Alaskan 214 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 9: god Governor Sarah Palin a topic of national conversation, Hustler Inc. 215 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 9: Puts an ad up on Craigslist offering a three thousand 216 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 9: dollars sum for a Sarah Palin look alike willing to 217 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 9: start in a pornographic film. Within the next ten days, 218 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 9: a thirty six year old adult performer named Lisa Ann 219 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 9: Corpora answers and wins the role of Sarah Palin. Lisa 220 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 9: Ann Ataurus had been in and out of performing since 221 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 9: the nineties, also working as a stripper and running a 222 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 9: day spot. In two thousand and five, she becomes a 223 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 9: talent agent for La Direct Models, scouting female performers who 224 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 9: are aged thirty plus for the new boom in milf content. 225 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 9: While other agencies reject or drop female performers for allegedly 226 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 9: aging out. Lisa Anne sees that there is a huge 227 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 9: unmet demand for content with women of a certain age 228 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 9: with huge tits and big asses. Now, is the milf 229 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 9: really a feminist reflection of the shift in women's role 230 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 9: since the section, or is it just another impossible beauty 231 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 9: standard foisted on women that says they now have to 232 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 9: stay hot forever. I'm going with both. I only wish 233 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 9: Susan Sontag, who wrote a famous essay lamenting the female 234 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 9: beauty standard requiring eternal youthfulness, had lived to see the 235 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 9: rise of milk porn. To prepare to play Sarah Palin 236 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 9: in the porn parody Who's Nail and Palin, Lisa Ann 237 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 9: closely studies Tina Fey's impression of Sarah Palin on Saturday 238 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 9: Night Live, as well as tapes of Palin at debates. 239 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 9: She buys her own skirt suits that Macy's and tailors 240 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 9: the tops lower and the skirts higher and tighter. The 241 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 9: Sarah Palin porn parody raises a lot of new questions 242 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 9: about free speech, politics, and sex. The discourse and Republican 243 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 9: outrage over Who's Nail in Palin helps promote the movie 244 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 9: on programs like the Fox Network show America's Newsroom. 245 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 13: Your Average American. It's a It's disgusting, it's dirty, They 246 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 13: wouldn't want to see it. Is this whole thing actually legal? 247 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 13: Might there be some actual confusion to the non educated 248 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 13: mind out there? Megan Kelly Fox News, Maybe. 249 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: Some crazy right wing activists will try and burn my 250 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: house down, But I put myself in that target spot. 251 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 5: And it is what it is. Lisa Ann performer. 252 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 9: Megan Kelly has a defense attorney on her Fox show 253 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 9: to argue whether Sarah Palin has any legal recourse. The 254 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 9: defense attorney suggests that Palin could try seeking an injunction 255 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 9: to block the movie's release before the election, but he 256 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 9: ultimately thinks there's no case against Hustler because Hustler already 257 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 9: won its nineteen ninety eight First Amendment case against Jerry Folwell, 258 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 9: which ruled that celebrities cannot sue for parody. Hustler makes 259 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 9: sure the film clearly announces itself as parody, which, by 260 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 9: the way, is all so the defense we're using for 261 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 9: this podcast. 262 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 13: Whatever you think of Larry Flint, the man knows his 263 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 13: First Amendment. 264 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 9: The Internet introduces new gray areas as to what constitutes 265 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 9: parody and whether the average viewer understands that movies are 266 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 9: not the same thing as reality. Megan Kelly is also 267 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 9: purporting that television news channels like Fox News are depicting 268 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 9: an accurate reality, which they are purposely not. But in 269 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 9: two thousand and eight, it's still sort of taken for 270 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 9: granted that viewers know that screen images are not real life. 271 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 9: Is it misogynist to sexualize Sarah Palin and portray her 272 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 9: as a ravenous, dumbass milf who fucks Russian soldiers in 273 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 9: a fake bill O'Reilly in order to demean her career 274 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 9: as a politician? 275 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 14: Yes? 276 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 9: Does she suck? Also? Yes, should any politicians fuckability or 277 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 9: perceived lack of fuckibility ever be on the table? 278 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 15: No? 279 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 9: Is Whose Nail? And Palin Legal? Yes, definitely Who's Nail? 280 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 9: In Palin co starring Nina Hartley as Hillary Clinton and 281 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 9: Jada Pire as Conda Lisa Rice is released on November fourth, 282 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 9: two thousand and eight, election day. It's a huge hit 283 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 9: that gets lots of mainstream press coverage, drives Lisa Ann's 284 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 9: Google search results way up, and sells a lot of DVDs. 285 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 9: Lisa Ann becomes the public face and body of milfporn. 286 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 9: It spawns sequels where Lisa Ann's Palin Nails performers playing 287 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 9: Barack Obama and David Letterman not at the same time. 288 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 9: The Nail in Palin sequels debut online with no physical 289 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 9: media release planned. 290 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 6: Right now, the scene is only available online with no 291 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 6: plans in the immediate future from putting it on a DVD. 292 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 10: Rick Hits Hustlers Online. 293 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 9: Editor Hustler claims that putting the clip up only online 294 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 9: drove two hundred and fifty percent more traffic than usual 295 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 9: to the site. Internet traffic is the new metric of 296 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 9: success rather than DVD sales, but internet traffic doesn't necessarily 297 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 9: automatically translate into money the way that DVD sales do. 298 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 9: Performers like Lisa Ann are banking on building enough of 299 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 9: a following to attract fans to their strip club tour gigs, 300 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 9: where they can make real money live in person off 301 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 9: customers who saw them in porn films. Some performers also 302 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 9: do escorting to make more money, which has moved from 303 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 9: the literal back pages of alternative weeklies and adult listings 304 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 9: like Hollywood Press onto websites like Backpage. It's becoming harder 305 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 9: to monetize performing because of the collapse of physical media 306 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 9: sales as well. As the two thousand and eight recession, 307 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 9: which cuts down on customers disposable income. Performers and civilian 308 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 9: alike are being forced to branch out into side hustles 309 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 9: and build out their personal brands online. There's also a 310 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 9: new type of work called independent contracting. Classifying workers as 311 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 9: such enables companies to withhold standard aspects of jobs like 312 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 9: health insurance. It's especially prevalent in new industries involving tech, 313 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 9: whose move fast, break things ethos means breaking labor laws. 314 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 9: An economic downturn begins coinciding with the end of the 315 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 9: American Empire, and while adult performers have more control over 316 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 9: selling their own content than ever, that control is now 317 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 9: subject to the whims of a new class of social 318 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 9: media billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg, who punish and shadow band, 319 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 9: sex workers, and civilians online for posting whatever content they 320 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 9: consider to be lewd, while allowing mainstream celebrities to skirt 321 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 9: the rules. When General World returns, Pirates gets a sequel. 322 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, welcome back to General World digital playgrounds. Pirates 323 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 9: gets a sequel with a budget of eight million dollars. 324 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 9: Pirates to Stagneti's Revenge is the highest budget porn film 325 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 9: ever made, octupling the budget of the original Pirates. Pirates 326 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 9: two will also be the last ever high budget narrative 327 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 9: pornographic film in history. Samantha Lewis of Digital Playground acts 328 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 9: oblivious to the storm that is sweeping the industry as 329 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 9: DP promotes Pirates Too. 330 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 15: I dealt with the Cleveland Boys, the Philadelphia Boys, the 331 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 15: New York boys, and they eventually figured out that I 332 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 15: talked business too. Samantha Lewis Digital Playground. 333 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 9: Samantha Lewis becomes the talent point of contact and Shepherd's 334 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 9: the careers of the final era of porn studio contract 335 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 9: girls stars like Tigan Presley, Jesse Jane and Tara Patrick. 336 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 15: I tell them that this is porn and that this 337 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 15: is a family. But if they think they're gonna walk 338 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 15: out of this job, the next Julian roberts that they're 339 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 15: in the wrong place. I make sure to grill these 340 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 15: girls before we offer a contract. 341 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 16: Before you sign up porn contract, don't forget to trademark 342 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 16: your own name. Don't make less money than your manager. 343 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 16: Tara Patrick performer. 344 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 9: According to Tara Patrick, Samantha Lewis was allegedly as financially 345 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 9: exploitative of talent as any scumbag mail. I mean, she 346 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 9: was previously a realtor. 347 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 17: I've been criticized. Why I've been brutalized. Anybody who criticizes me, 348 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 17: anybody who is just a jealous guy. Everybody who says, oh, 349 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 17: Joe Francis is this, Look at the penis and tell 350 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 17: me if it's small. 351 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 7: Tell me. 352 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 17: It's been widely reported that my penis is huge. But look, 353 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 17: I have nothing to prove. Joe Francis producer. 354 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 9: Joe Francis's Girls Gone Wild tapes have also moved from 355 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 9: being sold on TV infomercials to being fully online. Joe 356 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 9: Francis gets charged in court with sexual exploitation for failing 357 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 9: to uphold two two five seven, the rule requiring documented 358 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 9: proof of age verification for all adult content. 359 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 18: I have private jets. 360 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 17: I have a great life. I'm a good looking guy. 361 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 17: I'm not conceited, but like I have girls around me 362 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 17: all the time. Whatever I want. I make a lot 363 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 17: of money. It's a great life. If I wasn't me, 364 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 17: I'd fucking hate me. 365 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 9: And while she has renounced porn, Jenna continues to plug 366 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 9: her book and brand on her never ending press tour 367 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 9: by doing esquires what I've learned column. 368 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 8: I hate getting political and stuff, but when really right 369 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 8: wing people get into office, they worry about things that 370 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 8: should be the least of our worries. Whether or not 371 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 8: I'm getting a doggy style from a black man should 372 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 8: not be their concern. 373 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 19: They should be. 374 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 10: Worrying about healthcare, about our. 375 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 8: Homeless, about the war, how about bringing the troops home? 376 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 10: Homie crazy. 377 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 9: After announcing her retirement, Janine Linda Moulder also returned to 378 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 9: the porn industry and starred in Janine Loves Jenna. Janine 379 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 9: is getting written up in the press, but not for 380 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 9: her screenwork. 381 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 17: You know this is my daughter. 382 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 8: I'm the best mother I can be. 383 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 20: Janine Linda Mulder. 384 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 9: Performer Janine is tried in federal court for tax evasion. 385 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 9: She owes the Internal Revenue Service two hundred thousand dollars 386 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 9: and admits that she knew this when she bought a 387 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 9: Jeep and a seven hundred thousand dollars house in Eugene, Oregon. 388 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 9: Her ex husband, West Coast Choppers TV personality Jesse James 389 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 9: is now married to mainstream movie star Sandra Bullock. When 390 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 9: Jeanine is sentenced to jail for tax evasion, Jesse James 391 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 9: and Sandra Bullock take full custody of Janine and Jesse's daughter, Sonny. 392 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 9: When Jeanine is released after six months, she lobbies for 393 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 9: more visitation rights to see her five year old child, 394 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 9: which have been reduced to weekly daytime visits. 395 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 16: I myself have stopped working like I used to in 396 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 16: order to be here with Jesse and the kids, because 397 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 16: we are in constant high alert, never really knowing what 398 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 16: condition Janine will be in and even more concerning the 399 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 16: condition Sonny will be in. 400 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 13: Actress. 401 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 9: In an Orange County family court, Janine requests overnight visits 402 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 9: with her daughter and is denied. Sandra Bullock writes the 403 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 9: court a letter saying Janine can't be trusted with the 404 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 9: child because she uses drugs and passes out. Jesse James 405 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 9: also claims the kid will be unsafe with Janine and 406 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 9: her new husband, Jeremy Aikman, who's a convicted felon. Janine 407 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 9: begs the court and Sandra Bullock to take some mercy 408 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 9: on her. 409 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 8: Sandy doesn't know what goes on in my house. 410 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 10: I'd love for her too. 411 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: Please come over, you know, I'll make dinner you know, 412 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: let's sit down as two women. 413 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 6: Good cause exists for the court to conduct a review 414 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 6: to determine if Sonny will be safe with Janine. She 415 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 6: should be restrained from allowing the child around pornographers, drug addicts, 416 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 6: guns and firearms, felons, and other unsafe environments. Jesse James 417 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 6: TV personality. 418 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 9: Jeanine's husband, Jeremy Eikman, also writes a letter to the 419 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 9: court saying that his wife is abusing vico in. She 420 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 9: gets multiple scripts from quack doctors and buys pills off 421 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 9: the street. He says she recently went away to a 422 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 9: halfway house in Oregon, but when she came back, her 423 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 9: drug abuse got even worse. He tells the judge his 424 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 9: wife was recently so high on pills one night that 425 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 9: she rammed her truck into a house and then rear 426 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 9: ended a car. He says her drug use makes her 427 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 9: moody and unstable, and he agrees with Jesse James that 428 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 9: their house is not a safe environment for children. At 429 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 9: the last minute, he rescinds this and writes a new 430 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 9: letter in full support of Janine. Janine's request for expanded 431 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 9: visitation is denied. She is allowed to continue seeing her 432 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 9: daughter during supervised daytime hours. After passing a drug and 433 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 9: alcohol test, the judge grants her one special dispensation to 434 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 9: keep her daughter over on Christmas Eve two thousand and nine. 435 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 9: The next year, Sandra Bullock and Jesse James's marriage ends 436 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 9: when he's rumored to have cheated on her. The year 437 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 9: after that, Jesse James's TV courier blows up when a 438 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 9: picture of him wearing Nazi memorabilia and giving a seghile 439 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 9: leaks online. James claims that the ss hat he was 440 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 9: shown wearing was a gag gift from his Jewish godfather 441 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 9: and that he's not really a neo Nazi. Friends defend 442 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 9: him by saying Nazi imagery is part of biker culture 443 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 9: and not related to its racist politics. 444 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 8: Chris Angel came up and started hitting on me. He 445 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 8: was like, hey, baby, want to go for a ride 446 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 8: in my Lamborghini. I said I had my own Lamborghini 447 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 8: and I walked away. Later that night, he found out 448 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 8: that I was dating Tito and he came over to apologize. 449 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 8: He was really groveling. He ended up calling Tito and 450 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 8: leaving a message apologizing and asking for forgiveness. People are 451 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 8: so intimated by Tito, and he's really good about keeping 452 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 8: the wolves away from my door. 453 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 9: Tito Ortiz puts out his own memoir called This Is 454 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 9: Gonna Hurt and announce his plans to return to the 455 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 9: UFC Octagon as a fighter after having strained his relationship 456 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 9: with UFC allegedly under Jenna's influence. In two thousand and eight, 457 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 9: Tito Ortiz appears on season seven of The Celebrity Apprentice, 458 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 9: judged by Donald Trump. On The Celebrity Apprentice, Tito Artis 459 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 9: lives in the Trump International Hotel and Tower alongside luminaries 460 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 9: like Stephen Baldwin, Vincent, Big Pussy Pastore, Gene Simmons of Kiss, Trace, 461 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 9: Ladies Love Country Boys, Adkins, and reality star Omrosa Newman. 462 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 9: And then, after her miscarriage with Jay Gardina and he 463 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 9: failed cycle of in Vitro, Jenna finally gets her deepest wish. 464 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 9: At age thirty five, she is pregnant with twins. She 465 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 9: and Tito are over the moon. 466 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 8: I can't even express the extreme serenity that came over 467 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 8: me once I saw my children inside me. It has 468 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 8: been my dream to have children for an extremely long time, 469 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 8: and I truly feel like finally the time is right 470 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 8: and God has blessed me. I have never felt more 471 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 8: like a woman or more alive. 472 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 9: In two thousand and nine, the Follies burgire Showgirl review 473 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 9: at the Tropicana, the one time crown jewel of the 474 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 9: Vegas Strip, closes after fifty years of operation as its 475 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 9: parent company enters bankruptcy. In two thousand and nine, the 476 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 9: effects of internet piracy on the porn business are also 477 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 9: becoming a parent A lot of the industry is still 478 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 9: in deep denial about the effect that free streaming content 479 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 9: is having on the existing content model. Streaming online content 480 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 9: can easily be pirated, screen grabbed, and repoststead while the 481 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 9: big studios keep trying to file copyright injunctions. There's simply 482 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 9: too much piracy to prosecute. Just as audiences left theaters 483 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 9: for video stores, they leave video stores for computers and phones. 484 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 9: Some porn industry folks are convinced it's a temporary sales slum, 485 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 9: blaming other factors like a purported lower quality of content 486 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 9: from easier access to cameras and editing software than Ever, 487 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 9: how can an industry making billions of dollars see its 488 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 9: profits start to vanish overnight when it comes to porn. 489 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 9: There's already a barrier of entry getting people to admit 490 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 9: they're consuming it due to shame. Now that it can 491 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 9: be seen for free, nobody wants to pay. 492 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 6: The one thing you have to deal with is that 493 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 6: free porn is here to stay. As far as the 494 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 6: people putting it out, I have no respect for them 495 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 6: at all. They're not doing this industry any good. And 496 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 6: I just don't understand people are satisfied with free ten 497 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 6: second clips. I mean, why short change yourself on jerking 498 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 6: off by getting the cheapest, shortest clip For guys, It's 499 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 6: worth it to treat yourself right when you. 500 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 7: Do it good. 501 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 6: Porn is a big ingredient in that Robbie d cinematographer. 502 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 9: While some are still banking on new technologies like three 503 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 9: D porn and high def cameras to save the day, 504 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 9: the adult industry as they know it is already collapsing, 505 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 9: whether anyone in porn wants to admit it or not. 506 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 9: The only DVDs that are still really selling are parodies 507 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 9: of popular movies and stuff like Who's Nail and Palin, 508 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 9: which consumers are buying more as novelty gifts than to 509 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 9: actually masturbate to digital playgrounds. June was wrong. It's not 510 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 9: HD technology, big budget movie aesthetics, or even good storytelling. 511 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 9: The consumer's crave. It's ease of access. But free porn 512 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 9: doesn't even really come for free. It comes in exchange 513 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 9: for your data, which is being scrape whenever you visit 514 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 9: a tube site. In two thousand and nine, something called 515 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 9: the Organized Fraud Task Force seizes six point four million 516 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 9: from Mansef Brawser's parent company. They tell the FEDS they 517 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 9: weren't aware of nine million dollars that had been wired 518 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 9: from Israel into their Fidelity accounts. The Four Browsers bosses 519 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 9: sell the company and use their tech skills to scrub 520 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 9: their own Google results to obscure their connection to browsers 521 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 9: and the pornographic film industry. Instead of browsers, search results 522 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 9: for them now come up linking them to charitable donations. 523 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 9: In two thousand and eight, a porn production house specializing 524 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 9: in transgender female porn called Grooby Productions holds the first 525 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 9: ever award show for transgender erotica. At first, the awards 526 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 9: are called something I'm not going to say, the anti 527 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 9: transler for transgender women that RuPaul still likes to say 528 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 9: awards and fun. Fact, the California Transportation Foundation, a nonprofit 529 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 9: associated with the californ Ffornia Department of Transportation, also called 530 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 9: its twentieth annual Awards Ceremony to celebrate transportation achievement the 531 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 9: exact same thing. I cannot believe that a California Bay 532 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 9: Area nonprofit in two thousand and nine did not know 533 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 9: that their award ceremony had the same name as an 534 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 9: anti translur like they claimed in the Bay Area. The 535 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 9: main Grooby website bills itself as the first transsexual pay 536 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 9: site with original content. Transporn like gay mail porn and 537 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 9: other porn not involving CIS, heterosexual men and women had 538 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 9: long been relegated to a niche outside of mainstream porn. 539 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 9: While the first event was online, the second annual Transgender 540 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 9: Erotica Awards were held in North Hollywood. The event gained 541 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 9: sponsors and added new categories each year, like Best FtM Performer, 542 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 9: It gained traction and the awards show moved over the 543 00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 9: hill from North Hollywood to Regular Hollywood. There are arguments 544 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 9: on both sides that trans representation in porn is positive, 545 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 9: as well as the idea that porn just reinforces the 546 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 9: fetishization and over sexualization of trans women. Like all porn, 547 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 9: it really depends on who's making it, who's in it, 548 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 9: and who's consuming it. On March sixteenth, two thousand and nine, 549 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 9: Jenna gives birth to twins, Jesse Jamison and Journey jet 550 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 9: Ortiz at a hospital in Newport Beach. She also launches 551 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 9: a fragrance called Heartbreaker, top notes Raspberry and Rose, Tara 552 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 9: Patrick and Evan Seinfeld divorce, and Tara Patrick releases a 553 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 9: memoir called Sinner Takes All, a memoir of love and porn, 554 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 9: and also the Joe Rogan Experience launches and airs its 555 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 9: first episodes. 556 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: For the past twenty six years, we have worked with 557 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: the most beautiful and talented women in the adult business. 558 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: We certainly will continue to do so. As always, when 559 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: we find women who we feel are exceptional, we will 560 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: not hesitate to work with them on an exclusive basis. 561 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 9: In twenty ten, Vivid Entertainment Group releases nearly all the 562 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 9: remaining Vivid girls from their contracts. Wicked Pictures also lets 563 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 9: all of their contract girls go, except for two, Lupefuentas 564 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 9: and Jessica Drake. In twenty twelve, a performer named Ali 565 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 9: Hayes finishes out her Vivid contract and becomes the final 566 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 9: Vivid girl in history. In an era where all kinds 567 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 9: of work are changing from full time employment to independent contracting, 568 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 9: contract girls are being phased out, none of Jenna's contract 569 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 9: girls at Club Jenna surpassed or even reached Jenna's level 570 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 9: of fame, and it seems increasingly clear that no porn 571 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 9: star will ever be as famous and successful as Jenna was. 572 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 9: It's not because they're not as talented or equally entrepreneurial. 573 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 9: Jenna just happened to be born at the exact right 574 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 9: moment to enter the industry at its absolute peak. Also 575 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 9: in twenty ten, Instagram launches. The idea of the selfie 576 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 9: has already become widespread. Documenting your life online has become 577 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 9: second nature to kids who grew up at the computer age, 578 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 9: and posting photos of yourself online has gone from totally 579 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 9: taboo and allegedly dangerous to commonplace, semi mandatory. Wanting a 580 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 9: little bit of attention from strangers is no longer seen 581 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 9: as inherently shameful or vain. The wide availability of camera 582 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 9: phones and new platforms to upload photos too, has made 583 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 9: everyone a digital exhibitionist for a twenty tens aspiring adult performer. 584 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 9: Signing with one of the big name brand studios like 585 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 9: Digital Playground can still get your name a lot of exposure, 586 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 9: but also gets you a smaller profit cut. With the Internet, 587 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 9: performers can learn and operate a lot of the business 588 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 9: side of the business themselves, like Danish firsted performers can 589 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 9: now edit their own videos and learn the backside of 590 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 9: the business like lighting and sound, to shoot all by themselves. 591 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 9: Digital Playgrounds contract egirls like Stoya and Caden Cross say 592 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 9: they're given full creative freedom to shoot their own content. 593 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 9: Shooting one's own online content becomes another marker of authenticity 594 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 9: as well as one that the performer can't be exploited 595 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 9: if she's shooting her own stuff. The advantage of working 596 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 9: with the studio is a guarantee of magazine coverage and 597 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 9: stuff like sex toy licensing deals that will help build 598 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 9: name recognition, But the market is shrinking with the advance 599 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 9: of piracy and new sites like porn Hub. Sites like 600 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 9: Instagram and other social media platforms also introduce a new 601 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 9: category of fantasy women with public personas influencers. Influencers post 602 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 9: fantasy content about idealized lives that the viewer follows parasocial. 603 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 9: Sometimes the content is sexual, and sometimes it's cooking or 604 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 9: going to the gym or something, but the idea is 605 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 9: the same one put forth by Danny, Ash and Jenna 606 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 9: follow along with a carefully curated version of My life Online. 607 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 7: I was a geek. 608 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 18: Fabian Tilbin businessman. 609 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 9: Man when a Canadian multinational pornography conglomerate funded by Canadian 610 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 9: private equity firm Ethical Capital Partners acquires Digital Playground, Digital 611 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 9: Playground announces the company will continue to operate out of 612 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 9: its Canoga Park studio. Manwen finances the Digital Playground acquisition 613 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 9: with a nine figure loan from a fund on Wall Street. 614 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 15: The Digital Playground vision of its contract stars will remain 615 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 15: unaffected with man when only supporting them to reach beyond 616 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 15: what they think is possible. They understand what makes these 617 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 15: women you unique and plan to support them in their 618 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 15: own endeavors while remaining digital plague and exclusive contract stores. 619 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 9: Manwin is owned by a thirty year old computer programmer 620 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 9: from Achen, Germany named Fabian Tillman. A Gemini. Tilman develops 621 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 9: a thing called NATS next Generation Affiliate tracking software giving 622 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 9: tube sites click based ad revenue. Their ad department is 623 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 9: run by a banner ad network called Traffic Junkie. Adult 624 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 9: sites mostly make money by forcing you to click through 625 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 9: a bunch of ads, keeping you on the site longer. 626 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 9: The overly crowded and chaotically horny vibe of bootleg tube 627 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 9: sites recalls the neon casino signs of Las Vegas. Come 628 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 9: on in, have some fun. Whatever you want, We've got it. 629 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: There's no question those man. When guys are smart and 630 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: they know what they're doing. 631 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 9: At first, the tube sites run almost entirely unpirated content, 632 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 9: as well as allowing for amateurs to upload their own 633 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 9: content for free. The sites are flooded with illegally uploaded 634 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 9: videos faster than porn studios and their anti piracy IT 635 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 9: experts can flag them down. The tubes are likened to vampires, 636 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 9: sucking up all existing porn content like a big tube worm, 637 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 9: and in the process destroying the financial model of the studios. 638 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 18: That's basically that I figured out. It seems to be 639 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 18: an awfully good THNK to via a loot websites in 640 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 18: their current climate, because you can get sync, fatique and 641 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 18: the obvious ways to improve what they're doing. 642 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 9: The combined traffic of the Manwin portfolio of adult film 643 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 9: aggregator tube sites is doing almost as much traffic as 644 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 9: Google or Amazon. The Manwin portfolio expands to include almost 645 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 9: every major porn website, gay and straight. The moment that 646 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 9: consumers can see porn online without having to purchase physical media, 647 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 9: all but the oldest consumers immediately stopped doing so. Forever 648 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 9: with pornography, a lot of customers were always reluctant to 649 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 9: have their name or credit card directly attached to the purchase. 650 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 9: This is where I tell you that even though you 651 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 9: didn't type your name or credit card number into a 652 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 9: porn tube site, all that data exists somewhere up in 653 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 9: the cloud. They know what you jerk off to. 654 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 21: To me, this deal is no different than the acquisition 655 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 21: of pigs Are by Disney. The consumer is going to 656 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 21: see more blockbusters, big budget productions, and it's our goal 657 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 21: to create the next genre of adult entertainment. This acquisition 658 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 21: is a marriage between two industry leaders. Adult entertainment is changing, 659 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 21: and Manvein has a lead on technology. 660 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 14: June direct there. 661 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 9: The emergence of mega companies like Manwin is part of 662 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 9: a growing trend in all media industries monopolization. The two 663 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 9: thousands porn studios are struggling to stay afloat financially with 664 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 9: the advent of tube sites and can't afford not to 665 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,240 Speaker 9: take the buyouts. Small independent porn studios are getting crushed 666 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 9: under the financial weight of the new tube site conglomerates. 667 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 9: The remaining indie porn studios, like San Francisco's kink dot Com, 668 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 9: focus on specific content niches. By the twenty tens, there's 669 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 9: a new big three in porn Manwin which rebrands itself 670 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 9: as mind Geek Hustler, which takes its brand name recognition 671 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 9: online and is willing to host the hardcore porn which 672 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 9: hire end brand Playboy still won't touch, and Vivid Entertainment 673 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 9: Group Vivid Steve Hirsch, who foresaw the title shift from 674 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 9: film to video, sees the signs again and gets Vivid 675 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 9: content online pronto, while the other established studios delay moving online. 676 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 9: There is still a hope within the adult industry that 677 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 9: Google will eliminate the big tube sites in their rampant 678 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 9: content piracy by copyright striking them or ranking them down, 679 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 9: but there is an unwillingness among mainstream tech companies to 680 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 9: acknowledge the adult side of screen time. A company like 681 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 9: Wicked Pictures asking for its pirated films to be struck 682 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 9: for copyright infringement doesn't carry the same weight as a 683 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 9: big studio like Sony Pictures, which in twenty fourteen experiences 684 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 9: a major leak of its pirated tent pole films and 685 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 9: embarrassing internal communications. The click based ad revenue system on 686 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 9: tube sites doesn't trickle down to the performers or production 687 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 9: side of the business, even when the content is properly 688 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 9: licensed from porn studios rather than pirated. The rapid centralization 689 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 9: of the porn industry makes it even harder for the 690 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 9: people making the clips to profit off their own labor 691 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 9: in an industry where production is also rapidly declining. And 692 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,720 Speaker 9: while the tube porn sites might appear to be free, 693 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 9: as the old tech adage goes, that just means you, 694 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 9: the viewer, are the product. Just like with Internet entertainment group, 695 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 9: tube sites collect your personal data to sell it a 696 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 9: profit while you watch. Quote freeborn. 697 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 18: Online is the first thing we think about when we 698 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 18: do production. We can also package it later on make 699 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 18: a DVD or TV segment, but first and foremost echoes online, 700 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 18: and that's what it needs to make money. Anything else 701 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 18: that comes after that is an upside. We make more 702 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 18: money and the lower production costs. 703 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 9: When general world returns, big tech comes for the porn industry. Oh, 704 00:45:53,120 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 9: welcome back to general world because it is it's so 705 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 9: easy to see a sex movie now that the only 706 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 9: barrier of entry is computer access. The new porn tech 707 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 9: companies aren't even selling what the old porn studios did, 708 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 9: which was covert access to seeing other people fucking on tape, 709 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 9: but also art movies, the magical realm of fantasy. What 710 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,280 Speaker 9: the tech era porn companies are selling is the ultimate 711 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 9: late capitalist commodity, constant novelty, a never ending promise of 712 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 9: newness and total freedom from boredom, constant consumption with no 713 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 9: consequences or limits, and as always, porn now just reflects 714 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 9: society at large. Novelty is also what Amazon sells, It's 715 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 9: what all tech companies sell and why it's Enron's all 716 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 9: the way down. They are promising a bright, endless future 717 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 9: built around new commodities that refresh themselves like a web page. 718 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 9: There is talk of man Win going public, but in 719 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,959 Speaker 9: usters are still afraid of adult content. Fabian Tillman thinks 720 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 9: porn will soon normalize into just another form of streaming content. 721 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 9: The tip of the spear for Manwin is their ownership 722 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 9: of Playboy Television. Playboy is an established brand with enough 723 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 9: crossover appeal that mainstream brands are willing to touch it. 724 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 18: With his Playboy TV, we also got the way to 725 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 18: get in the door of Google, Samsung TV Group and 726 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 18: Netflix with brass. When we will knock on the door, 727 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 18: they tell us to leave because they're afraid of the content. 728 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 18: They're not afraid of Playboy, though at least they can 729 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 18: be convinced to talk to us about it later on, 730 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 18: I can try to push some other content into the mix. 731 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 9: Fabian Tillman believes piracy is inevitable and physical media is 732 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 9: on its way out. He leaves it up to the 733 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 9: studios to get more creative with their products if they 734 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 9: still want to sell, and so get creative they do. 735 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 9: Vivid releases an online sex tape with Farah Abraham, reality 736 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 9: star of MTV's Teen Mom, on their website. After Paris 737 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 9: and Kim Kay, the stars of celebrity sex tapes are 738 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 9: getting less famous, their sex tapes are still treated as 739 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,760 Speaker 9: a novelty item, A customer will most likely only watch once. 740 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 9: The one million dollar paycheck Farah Abraham receives for her 741 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 9: Vivid tape will be the peak of her fame, not 742 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 9: a bridge to more work. 743 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: It has created such a phenomenon and it's so popular. 744 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,280 Speaker 1: We were caught off guard. We had ten million visits 745 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: to the site in the first few days, more people 746 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 1: trying to access the film in one week than we 747 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: had in the first six months of Kim Kardashian's state 748 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: With Raja. 749 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 16: As a company owner, Steve Hirsch always has been and 750 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 16: always will be a big power player in the industry. 751 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 16: Even though Vivid has changed a lot over the years, 752 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 16: it's still one of the strongest brands, and he has 753 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 16: always been a very powerful person. People really do not 754 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 16: realize how much hard work and time and energy goes 755 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 16: into having a successful brand in the porn industry. Making 756 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 16: a profit right now is tough. It is possible, but 757 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 16: it's not easy. Joanna Angel, performer. 758 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: The new law makes no sense, and it imposes a 759 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: government licensing regime on making films that are protected by 760 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: the Constitution. Measure B will have vast unintended consequences which 761 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 1: may undermine industry efforts to protect the health of our 762 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 1: actors and actresses. 763 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 9: November twenty twelve, fifty six percent of LA County voters 764 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 9: vote to pass Measure B, which will require porn actors 765 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 9: to use condoms while filming sex scenes. It also forces 766 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 9: porn producers to pay a permit feed to the county 767 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 9: Department of Public Health for inspectors to check on who's 768 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 9: following the new guidelines. A group of plaintiffs, including Stephen Hirsch, 769 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 9: file a first Amendment suit over the condom laws. A 770 00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,760 Speaker 9: judge rules that Measure B is not unconstitutional. Once Measure 771 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 9: B passes, nobody has any idea how it's actually going 772 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 9: to be enforced. Tom Myers, general counsel for AIDS Healthcare Foundation, 773 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 9: the group that sponsored the new law, scoffs at the 774 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 9: idea that forcing adult film actors to wear condoms is 775 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 9: anything but a public health issue. 776 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 17: Display what the adult industry's lawyers are claiming in this lawsuit, 777 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 17: Measure B is not directed at speech, and as such, 778 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 17: their first Amendment claims will likely ring holla with the court. 779 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 5: Tom Myer's lawyer. 780 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 7: They're telling the production house that in order to produce 781 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 7: legally protected expression, you have to first get government approval, 782 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 7: and you have to agree to shoot it in a 783 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 7: particular way, namely with condoms. I can tell you they 784 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 7: are leaving La County in droves. Paul Cambria, Attorney. 785 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 9: In twenty twelve, an estimated ninety percent of porn is 786 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 9: still being shot in the San Fernando Valley, but the 787 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 9: whole industry is under attack on multiple fronts, and Measure 788 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 9: B will strike a final blow. Porn industry folks see 789 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 9: this as government interference, trying to destroy the industry at 790 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 9: any cost. 791 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 7: It's a multi billion dollar industry that employs thousands of people, 792 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 7: and ever since this all started, they have been leaving 793 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 7: and filming in places other than La County. 794 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 9: The multi generational, one locational ecosystem of porn in the 795 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 9: San Fernando Valley will start to die out. Porn has 796 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 9: already been moving to states like Florida and Nevada where 797 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 9: real estate is cheaper than California. With Measure B, the 798 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,919 Speaker 9: drain will continue between the tube sites and Measure B. 799 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 9: There's no real reason left for porn to stay in 800 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 9: the valley. 801 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 5: The primary purpose here is it's a health and safety issue, 802 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 5: and secondarily, we don't want them here. This is a 803 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 5: family oriented community and we don't want them setting up 804 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 5: their studios in Semi Valley. Mayor Bob Huber, Mayor of 805 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 5: Semi Valley. 806 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 9: Jenna walks away from the industry on top, and in 807 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 9: her wake, everything has begun to crumble. There will be 808 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 9: successful porn stars and the entire industry will transition to 809 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 9: a new content model online, but the golden era of 810 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 9: billion dollar profits and full length movies will come to 811 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 9: an end. Jenna has tapped out to pursue her lifelong 812 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 9: dream of motherhood. Will Jenna finally find the peace and 813 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 9: mental quiet she's been searching for her whole life. Let's 814 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 9: see a year after giving birth to their twins, Journey 815 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 9: Jed and Jesse Jamison Ortiz, Jenna Jamison accuses Tito Ortiz 816 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 9: of domestic violence. 817 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 8: I am officially crushed. I have so much I could say, 818 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 8: but I refuse to ruin Tito. I will never be 819 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 8: the same. I lost the love of my life. 820 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 9: Jenna's father, Larry miss Oli, calls the cops and the 821 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 9: Fuzz arrive at the Huntington Beach house on Baruna Lane 822 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,760 Speaker 9: that Jenna and Tito share with their children. Jenna claims 823 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 9: she pissed Tito off and he threw her in the bathtub, 824 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 9: rupturing ligaments in her shoulder. She leaves the house in 825 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 9: an armbrace. Tito says that Jenna is lying. He claims 826 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 9: that he confronted Jenna about relapsing on OxyContin and she 827 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 9: freaked out. Tito Ortiz is arrested and taken in by 828 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 9: the Orange County Police. 829 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 20: Jenna Jamison has been fighting an ugly battle with an 830 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 20: addiction to OxyContin for well over a year, and this 831 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 20: morning she had a relapse. We're here because Tito was 832 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 20: trying to help her. Tito or Teaz never laid a 833 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,919 Speaker 20: hand on Jenna. Chip Matthews, lawyer for Tito or Tease. 834 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 7: You can't hit your spouse, even if they are under 835 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 7: the influence of anything. Ronald Richard's attorney. 836 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 19: They have the cutest little kids, always perfectly dressed and smiling. 837 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 19: I see them in strollers with the nanny several times 838 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 19: a week, but they're never with Tito. They're rarely with 839 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 19: Jenna either. Cindy Ross neighbor. 840 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 8: Surprise, so many of you believe Tito's allegations. I'm going 841 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,760 Speaker 8: to focus on happiness. Goodbye xxx xx. 842 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 9: Jenna passes a drug test for ten illicit substances, including 843 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 9: oxycodone and cocaine, out a medical clinic in Las Vegas. 844 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 8: I am definitely not addicted to OxyContin or any drug. 845 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 7: The lab tests clearly exonerate Jenna Jamison of any hint, ioda, 846 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 7: or suggestion that she ingested or was under the influence 847 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 7: of any opiates or controlled substances. 848 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 9: Jenna and Tito reconcile. She withdraws her domestic violence claim 849 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 9: and he withdraws his drug claim. In June, they take 850 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 9: a family vacation to the Bahamas while Jenna hosts a 851 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 9: sponsored bikini contest at the Atlantis resort called Sun Fun 852 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 9: and twenty one. But page six says there's trouble in paradise. 853 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,919 Speaker 9: Even though the pair are in couples therapy together. 854 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 14: They weren't photographed together at the contest or at the club, 855 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 14: and he was not at her table for dinner Saturday 856 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 14: at Nobu. Anonymous witness page six. 857 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 8: I remember finishing my book and thinking, Okay, now I'm 858 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,959 Speaker 8: going to settle down, have kids. I'm going to ride 859 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 8: off quietly into the sunset. 860 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 14: Now. 861 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 8: Look, it seems like I will forever be that crazy 862 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,800 Speaker 8: girl who never rides off into the sunset. I'm always 863 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 8: going to be the one riding the fucking bronco in 864 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 8: Asles Chaps. 865 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,280 Speaker 9: Next time on Jenna World, Episode thirteen, Valley of the Dolls, 866 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 9: the porn studio system and a couple of buildings explode, 867 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 9: new censorship threats to the industry and beyond, and Jenna 868 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 9: finds love, God and happiness. All this and more next 869 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 9: time on the series finale of Jenna World. Jenna World 870 00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 9: is an iHeartRadio production executive produced by Anna Hosnier and 871 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 9: Becca Ramos, supervising, produced by by Wang, produced by Victor Wright, 872 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 9: script editing by Jonathan Mills, engineered by Graham Gibson, and 873 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 9: edited by Rory Gagan. Today's episode of Jenna World featured 874 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 9: Lauren ser Video as Jenna Jamison, Noah Garfinkel as Stephen Hirsch, 875 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 9: Emily Yoshida as Asa Kira, Paula v Gnaalin as Sasha Gray, 876 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 9: David Brown as Tommy Lee, Miles Gray as Kid Rock, 877 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 9: Mary Russ as Stormy Daniels, Mookie Blakeclock as Randy West, 878 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 9: Sydney Battle as Heather Hunter, Mollie Mary O'Brien as Megan Kelly, 879 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 9: Michelle Hallick as Lisa Ann, Jason Sheridan as Rick Hicks, 880 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 9: Charlotte Erkeley as Samantha, Lewis By Wang as Tara, Patrick 881 00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 9: Bretz Johnson as Joe Francis, Tom Myers and and Fabian Tillman, 882 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 9: Lindsay Normington as Jeanine, Linda Mulder, Leah Beckman as Sandra 883 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 9: Bullock and Joanna Angel, Sam Wiles as Jesse James, and 884 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 9: Robbie d Brian McPherson as Paul Cambria and Ronald Richards, 885 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 9: Victor Wright as Mayor Bob Huber, Alex Papadimus as Chip Matthews, 886 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 9: Tess Lynch as Cindy Ross, and Ian Grant as anonymous witness. 887 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 9: Oh my god,