1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:19,748 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,388 --> 00:00:26,268 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football, Welcome back to GMFP. You have to 4 00:00:26,308 --> 00:00:29,708 Speaker 2: imagine if there were physical pillars, many of which held 5 00:00:29,748 --> 00:00:32,628 Speaker 2: up Lambeau, this following name and our guest on this 6 00:00:32,748 --> 00:00:34,708 Speaker 2: show would be one of the group that holds that 7 00:00:34,748 --> 00:00:37,228 Speaker 2: building up. And the history that the Packers have is 8 00:00:37,268 --> 00:00:39,868 Speaker 2: not said without Donald Driver. He is a four time 9 00:00:39,908 --> 00:00:43,068 Speaker 2: pro bowler, a Super Bowl forty five champion, and he's 10 00:00:43,188 --> 00:00:44,788 Speaker 2: our friend of the show at GMFP. 11 00:00:45,028 --> 00:00:45,668 Speaker 3: What's going on? 12 00:00:45,708 --> 00:00:46,108 Speaker 4: Donald? 13 00:00:46,908 --> 00:00:49,268 Speaker 5: Oh goodness, see you all. 14 00:00:49,668 --> 00:00:50,508 Speaker 6: Great to see you. 15 00:00:50,788 --> 00:00:53,468 Speaker 2: As I just mentioned, fourteen seasons in the NFL, perhaps 16 00:00:53,508 --> 00:00:56,108 Speaker 2: most importantly for Packers fans, all of which were spent 17 00:00:56,188 --> 00:01:00,308 Speaker 2: wearing a Green Bay jersey. But besides your playing career, 18 00:01:00,348 --> 00:01:03,348 Speaker 2: you have, your heart is in Green Bay. How amazing 19 00:01:03,428 --> 00:01:05,668 Speaker 2: is it that the NFL Draft is there this week? 20 00:01:06,708 --> 00:01:08,188 Speaker 5: No, it's truly amazing. 21 00:01:08,228 --> 00:01:10,468 Speaker 7: I think that's what everybody wanted to see, and now 22 00:01:10,548 --> 00:01:13,228 Speaker 7: we have it firsthand. And no one really knows the 23 00:01:13,268 --> 00:01:15,868 Speaker 7: area as well as we do as players. But it's 24 00:01:15,908 --> 00:01:19,428 Speaker 7: an iconic, historic place to be and so I was 25 00:01:19,468 --> 00:01:21,988 Speaker 7: blessed to play fourteen years there and some people don't 26 00:01:21,988 --> 00:01:24,748 Speaker 7: get that opportunity, but it's a place that's going to 27 00:01:24,788 --> 00:01:27,028 Speaker 7: be exciting to see the draft come there. It just 28 00:01:27,028 --> 00:01:29,028 Speaker 7: funny because I said, you know, I wish my son 29 00:01:29,068 --> 00:01:30,708 Speaker 7: would have been getting drafted this year because it'd have 30 00:01:30,708 --> 00:01:32,228 Speaker 7: been pretty cool to go back home where he was 31 00:01:32,268 --> 00:01:34,468 Speaker 7: born and raised. But he still has two years left, 32 00:01:34,468 --> 00:01:35,468 Speaker 7: so we'll see what happens. 33 00:01:36,708 --> 00:01:39,068 Speaker 1: Oh man, we got him on the big board. He's 34 00:01:39,108 --> 00:01:41,188 Speaker 1: got all the mock drafts are going to have driver. 35 00:01:41,348 --> 00:01:41,868 Speaker 5: I love this. 36 00:01:42,028 --> 00:01:43,148 Speaker 4: I love the ear on the show. 37 00:01:43,508 --> 00:01:47,428 Speaker 1: So many years watching you, including Donald way back five 38 00:01:47,788 --> 00:01:51,028 Speaker 1: six seven, we look at the Aaron Rodgers that everybody 39 00:01:51,028 --> 00:01:53,028 Speaker 1: watches and talks about now. And you were there for 40 00:01:53,108 --> 00:01:56,988 Speaker 1: the origin story when he got drafted controversially to Green Bay. 41 00:01:57,308 --> 00:02:00,268 Speaker 1: What are your early memories, your first memories of Rogers 42 00:02:00,348 --> 00:02:02,508 Speaker 1: joining the Packers That. 43 00:02:02,588 --> 00:02:03,268 Speaker 8: He was the elete. 44 00:02:03,308 --> 00:02:05,948 Speaker 7: I think that was approved fact. He proved that, you know, 45 00:02:05,988 --> 00:02:08,508 Speaker 7: weekend and week out. I think his first rookie year, 46 00:02:08,828 --> 00:02:11,628 Speaker 7: he kind of just torched our defense in practice and 47 00:02:11,628 --> 00:02:13,468 Speaker 7: we kind of and you know, normally second team goal 48 00:02:13,508 --> 00:02:16,028 Speaker 7: against our first team defense, and he kind of lit 49 00:02:16,028 --> 00:02:17,668 Speaker 7: it up. And then I think we really saw when 50 00:02:17,668 --> 00:02:19,908 Speaker 7: he played we played Dallas, Brett gets injured. We're playing 51 00:02:19,948 --> 00:02:22,828 Speaker 7: Dallas in Dallas, and he almost back to win that game. 52 00:02:22,868 --> 00:02:24,668 Speaker 7: And I think at that point we knew that this 53 00:02:24,828 --> 00:02:26,148 Speaker 7: guy's career was going to be bright. 54 00:02:26,548 --> 00:02:30,028 Speaker 9: Transitions from Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks are never easy. 55 00:02:30,188 --> 00:02:32,428 Speaker 9: Donald Luckily, the Packers only do it like once every 56 00:02:32,428 --> 00:02:35,068 Speaker 9: couple of decades here, from far to Rogers. 57 00:02:35,108 --> 00:02:37,868 Speaker 4: You lived through that back in seven and eight. 58 00:02:38,228 --> 00:02:41,108 Speaker 9: Then a number of years later it's from Rogers to 59 00:02:41,228 --> 00:02:44,748 Speaker 9: Jordan Love. Do you believe Jordan Love can do the 60 00:02:44,788 --> 00:02:47,388 Speaker 9: same thing those other guys did, win a Super Bowl, 61 00:02:47,508 --> 00:02:50,788 Speaker 9: win MVPs, become that caliber of Hall of Fame type quarterback. 62 00:02:51,588 --> 00:02:52,908 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think he can. 63 00:02:52,988 --> 00:02:54,868 Speaker 7: I think that it was approved fact to be able 64 00:02:54,908 --> 00:02:57,948 Speaker 7: to say the Packers in the last whatever twenty years. 65 00:02:57,748 --> 00:02:58,988 Speaker 5: Have only had three quarterbacks. 66 00:02:58,988 --> 00:03:01,668 Speaker 7: It's truly amazing, right, I mean to go from you know, 67 00:03:01,908 --> 00:03:03,668 Speaker 7: Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers and now. 68 00:03:03,508 --> 00:03:05,068 Speaker 5: To Doing Love, doing up proved it. 69 00:03:05,268 --> 00:03:07,308 Speaker 7: I mean, first year as a starring quarterback, take him 70 00:03:07,348 --> 00:03:10,108 Speaker 7: to the NFC Championship game, he loses that, then get 71 00:03:10,108 --> 00:03:12,268 Speaker 7: to get into the postseason again next year. 72 00:03:12,388 --> 00:03:13,268 Speaker 5: I mean, sky's a limit. 73 00:03:13,348 --> 00:03:15,108 Speaker 7: The guy are still young, still have a young group 74 00:03:15,148 --> 00:03:17,068 Speaker 7: of receivers, the team is young. I think it's just 75 00:03:17,108 --> 00:03:19,068 Speaker 7: an opportunity to take it to the next level and 76 00:03:19,108 --> 00:03:21,308 Speaker 7: they're just missing a small piece and you know, we 77 00:03:21,428 --> 00:03:23,668 Speaker 7: got to figure out what that is. And I think 78 00:03:24,028 --> 00:03:25,948 Speaker 7: you know Matt's going to do that in this draft 79 00:03:25,988 --> 00:03:27,108 Speaker 7: as well. 80 00:03:27,228 --> 00:03:29,788 Speaker 10: Don you were a seventh round pick out of Alcorn State. 81 00:03:29,788 --> 00:03:32,388 Speaker 10: You turn that into a fourteen year NFL career, all 82 00:03:32,428 --> 00:03:34,148 Speaker 10: with the Green Bay Packers, might I add, which is 83 00:03:34,228 --> 00:03:36,548 Speaker 10: very impressive of you, their all time leading receiver. What's 84 00:03:36,548 --> 00:03:38,908 Speaker 10: your message to some of these young NFL hopefuls that 85 00:03:39,028 --> 00:03:40,788 Speaker 10: might go on that seventh round, or go on drafted, 86 00:03:40,868 --> 00:03:43,548 Speaker 10: or go a little bit later than they had anticipated. 87 00:03:44,468 --> 00:03:46,188 Speaker 5: Opportunities. I think that's the fun part. 88 00:03:46,268 --> 00:03:48,188 Speaker 7: I mean me coming from HBCU, I think a lot 89 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:50,068 Speaker 7: of people felt like we didn't play against the talent. 90 00:03:50,308 --> 00:03:52,028 Speaker 7: But when you look at some of the greatest players 91 00:03:52,028 --> 00:03:54,508 Speaker 7: that have played at HBCUs and now playing and play 92 00:03:54,508 --> 00:03:56,708 Speaker 7: in the NFL, they all Hall of famers, right, And 93 00:03:56,788 --> 00:03:59,028 Speaker 7: so this is a proven fact that you know, if 94 00:03:59,068 --> 00:04:01,188 Speaker 7: you get the opportunity, you know you have to make 95 00:04:01,188 --> 00:04:03,148 Speaker 7: the best of it. And for me, that was it. 96 00:04:03,188 --> 00:04:04,668 Speaker 7: You know, I felt like I should have been to 97 00:04:04,748 --> 00:04:07,708 Speaker 7: high in that year in ninety nine draft, but unfortunately 98 00:04:08,588 --> 00:04:09,028 Speaker 7: I didn't. 99 00:04:09,068 --> 00:04:10,908 Speaker 5: And so you know, there's only one guy that. 100 00:04:10,868 --> 00:04:13,348 Speaker 7: Has more stats tan yards than me and his name 101 00:04:13,388 --> 00:04:15,308 Speaker 7: is Torjope, And so that tails you right there, that 102 00:04:15,388 --> 00:04:18,468 Speaker 7: you know backwards, you've got to move forward on opportunities, 103 00:04:18,468 --> 00:04:20,188 Speaker 7: and this was my opportunity. 104 00:04:21,228 --> 00:04:22,028 Speaker 5: And you nailed it. 105 00:04:22,068 --> 00:04:24,508 Speaker 1: Of course, it's a crazy thing with the Packers. They 106 00:04:24,508 --> 00:04:26,868 Speaker 1: have not drafted a wide receiver in the first round 107 00:04:26,868 --> 00:04:30,668 Speaker 1: since two It's been twenty three years. Why is that 108 00:04:30,748 --> 00:04:32,028 Speaker 1: and do you think that could change this year? 109 00:04:33,228 --> 00:04:35,188 Speaker 7: I think it's always been we built in house, right. 110 00:04:35,228 --> 00:04:37,548 Speaker 7: I think you look at the Chalel level, guys come 111 00:04:37,588 --> 00:04:39,348 Speaker 7: in and have this opportunity and guys play well. 112 00:04:39,428 --> 00:04:41,268 Speaker 5: Right for myself was one of those guys. 113 00:04:41,748 --> 00:04:44,348 Speaker 7: You got Robert Ferguson, you get drafted, you got jvaon Walker, 114 00:04:44,388 --> 00:04:46,428 Speaker 7: you got Terry Lee, I mean everybody. 115 00:04:46,828 --> 00:04:47,508 Speaker 5: It just happens. 116 00:04:47,548 --> 00:04:49,548 Speaker 7: And so the Packers just feel like we've always built 117 00:04:49,548 --> 00:04:52,388 Speaker 7: it in house, and this has always been their tradition. 118 00:04:52,748 --> 00:04:54,308 Speaker 7: I don't know if that changes this year or not, 119 00:04:54,388 --> 00:04:57,068 Speaker 7: but we will see. I think we have a bunch 120 00:04:57,108 --> 00:04:58,828 Speaker 7: of young receivers that can step up and. 121 00:04:59,268 --> 00:05:00,548 Speaker 5: Feel those boards. 122 00:05:00,748 --> 00:05:03,308 Speaker 7: But you know, to this point, I think a lot 123 00:05:03,348 --> 00:05:05,628 Speaker 7: of people still question have they done that? Who's the 124 00:05:05,708 --> 00:05:08,788 Speaker 7: number one receiver? And we're hoping that we can get 125 00:05:08,788 --> 00:05:10,548 Speaker 7: that in that locker room. If not, then you got 126 00:05:10,588 --> 00:05:11,548 Speaker 7: to go in the draft and get it. 127 00:05:11,908 --> 00:05:14,108 Speaker 2: Donald, Can you help settle something for me? I am 128 00:05:14,108 --> 00:05:17,828 Speaker 2: born and raised in Minnesota, a native Vikings fan. Memories 129 00:05:17,828 --> 00:05:20,348 Speaker 2: of you coming to the building, We know the history. 130 00:05:20,788 --> 00:05:24,428 Speaker 2: I think the NFC North has the best rivalry across 131 00:05:24,508 --> 00:05:28,228 Speaker 2: all four teams. What were the rivalries like for you 132 00:05:28,268 --> 00:05:30,388 Speaker 2: when you were playing in Green Bay? And can you 133 00:05:30,388 --> 00:05:32,708 Speaker 2: compare it to now because the Lions are having a 134 00:05:32,708 --> 00:05:35,588 Speaker 2: moment now when we're constantly trying to make an argument. 135 00:05:35,428 --> 00:05:36,108 Speaker 6: For the Bears. 136 00:05:36,148 --> 00:05:39,948 Speaker 2: Take us back maybe to your experience Packers team hate 137 00:05:39,988 --> 00:05:41,788 Speaker 2: that they have for other teams, and then what are 138 00:05:41,828 --> 00:05:43,268 Speaker 2: you seeing now within the division? 139 00:05:44,108 --> 00:05:45,988 Speaker 7: No, I think you know, we've always called it the 140 00:05:46,028 --> 00:05:47,468 Speaker 7: Black and Blue Division for a reason. 141 00:05:47,548 --> 00:05:49,828 Speaker 5: Right, it doesn't matter what the record is. Every time 142 00:05:49,868 --> 00:05:51,748 Speaker 5: we play each other, it's a straight battle. 143 00:05:52,388 --> 00:05:54,108 Speaker 7: And so we've proven that, you know, year in, a 144 00:05:54,228 --> 00:05:56,748 Speaker 7: year out, and so the practice have always been at 145 00:05:56,748 --> 00:05:58,948 Speaker 7: the top and you see Detroit last year proven that 146 00:05:58,948 --> 00:06:02,068 Speaker 7: they're stepping up to that plate. I think it's going 147 00:06:02,108 --> 00:06:05,068 Speaker 7: to be Chicago is always going to fall short every 148 00:06:05,068 --> 00:06:07,308 Speaker 7: single year, and then Minnesota. 149 00:06:06,748 --> 00:06:08,588 Speaker 5: You got to give them credit stepped up. 150 00:06:10,508 --> 00:06:12,428 Speaker 7: But you know, I think it's you know, you got 151 00:06:12,468 --> 00:06:14,908 Speaker 7: to keep the pieces together to make the run. 152 00:06:14,988 --> 00:06:17,708 Speaker 5: And so we hope that we can get back on top. 153 00:06:17,548 --> 00:06:19,148 Speaker 7: And win the Central and then at that point, you 154 00:06:19,148 --> 00:06:20,868 Speaker 7: guys can just sign and take them backseat to what 155 00:06:20,908 --> 00:06:21,188 Speaker 7: we do. 156 00:06:22,908 --> 00:06:23,788 Speaker 6: That was perfect. 157 00:06:24,068 --> 00:06:24,428 Speaker 5: Perfect. 158 00:06:25,628 --> 00:06:27,548 Speaker 2: So the next thing I want to ask you was 159 00:06:27,588 --> 00:06:31,228 Speaker 2: more about your family. So I too have daughters. We 160 00:06:31,308 --> 00:06:33,228 Speaker 2: are girl family. This is something that you and I 161 00:06:33,268 --> 00:06:36,268 Speaker 2: have in common. You are an advocate for youth sports 162 00:06:36,268 --> 00:06:39,468 Speaker 2: and empowerment, especially knowing that you have daughters within your family. 163 00:06:39,668 --> 00:06:43,508 Speaker 2: You have been named chief Motivation Officer for BSN Sports 164 00:06:43,548 --> 00:06:44,628 Speaker 2: Surge program. 165 00:06:45,668 --> 00:06:46,468 Speaker 6: What is this about? 166 00:06:46,548 --> 00:06:46,828 Speaker 4: Tell it? 167 00:06:46,988 --> 00:06:49,588 Speaker 2: Could you tell us about the future that you have 168 00:06:49,668 --> 00:06:50,308 Speaker 2: with this group? 169 00:06:51,068 --> 00:06:53,388 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is an amazing program sur just going on 170 00:06:53,388 --> 00:06:55,988 Speaker 7: to that first year anniversary and with that, they made 171 00:06:55,988 --> 00:06:58,988 Speaker 7: me the chief motivation officer really to empower women to 172 00:06:58,988 --> 00:07:01,708 Speaker 7: play sports. As you know, me having two daughters and 173 00:07:01,748 --> 00:07:03,588 Speaker 7: then also having a son, you know, I can talk 174 00:07:03,588 --> 00:07:06,108 Speaker 7: to my son any kind wait and he understands it 175 00:07:06,108 --> 00:07:08,868 Speaker 7: and he moves on. Sometimes you have to talk to 176 00:07:08,908 --> 00:07:10,508 Speaker 7: your daughters in a different way and you have to 177 00:07:10,508 --> 00:07:13,308 Speaker 7: really sit down and educate them. I think sometimes as men, 178 00:07:13,788 --> 00:07:15,748 Speaker 7: we think we have the resources that we need, but 179 00:07:15,828 --> 00:07:16,588 Speaker 7: sometimes we don't. 180 00:07:16,588 --> 00:07:20,068 Speaker 5: And so Surge is actually having this the resources now. 181 00:07:20,148 --> 00:07:22,388 Speaker 7: Right, we want to empower girls to stand sports a 182 00:07:22,468 --> 00:07:24,628 Speaker 7: lead a healthy life. But and then the back end 183 00:07:24,628 --> 00:07:26,708 Speaker 7: of this, it's a free tool, right that we can 184 00:07:26,748 --> 00:07:29,308 Speaker 7: help you educate and develop coaches that they can understand 185 00:07:29,308 --> 00:07:31,668 Speaker 7: how to coach women in sports so that young women 186 00:07:31,748 --> 00:07:34,308 Speaker 7: don't get pushed out of sports at a very young age. 187 00:07:34,348 --> 00:07:36,868 Speaker 5: I mean everyone that we know when girls. 188 00:07:36,628 --> 00:07:38,388 Speaker 7: Get to pushed out of sports because of the coach, 189 00:07:38,468 --> 00:07:40,428 Speaker 7: and it's not because they don't have a love for 190 00:07:40,468 --> 00:07:44,388 Speaker 7: the game anymore. Seventy two percent males are coaches and 191 00:07:44,428 --> 00:07:47,468 Speaker 7: coaching women's sports, and so have to find a way 192 00:07:47,508 --> 00:07:49,788 Speaker 7: to be able to move forward with that and teach 193 00:07:49,828 --> 00:07:52,348 Speaker 7: these coaches how to have these herds to heart conversation 194 00:07:52,428 --> 00:07:54,308 Speaker 7: with these young women so that they don't get pushed 195 00:07:54,308 --> 00:07:55,868 Speaker 7: out of sports at a very young age. 196 00:07:57,228 --> 00:07:59,508 Speaker 1: It's a great cause and you're a great spokes before 197 00:07:59,508 --> 00:08:02,708 Speaker 1: it's surge by BSN Sports. I love that Donald. Before 198 00:08:02,708 --> 00:08:06,388 Speaker 1: you go, we have one last question about ball and 199 00:08:06,468 --> 00:08:08,068 Speaker 1: specifically pickleball. 200 00:08:08,228 --> 00:08:09,948 Speaker 4: Dude, you love it, You're playing it. 201 00:08:09,948 --> 00:08:10,788 Speaker 3: It's all over. 202 00:08:10,628 --> 00:08:13,588 Speaker 1: Your social What is it about Donald Driver and pickleball? 203 00:08:13,668 --> 00:08:15,028 Speaker 1: This love affair that's going on. 204 00:08:16,468 --> 00:08:18,788 Speaker 5: That I can I can still go professional in the sport. 205 00:08:18,868 --> 00:08:21,788 Speaker 7: You know, I think so many people playing this game now, 206 00:08:21,988 --> 00:08:23,948 Speaker 7: you know, I think the football thing is over for me. 207 00:08:23,988 --> 00:08:25,388 Speaker 7: I think I am not trying to go back and 208 00:08:25,388 --> 00:08:27,948 Speaker 7: play it off any of that. I love challenging my son, 209 00:08:28,028 --> 00:08:29,708 Speaker 7: but I think the fun part about this is that 210 00:08:29,748 --> 00:08:31,628 Speaker 7: I get to play this game and doesn't matter. 211 00:08:31,428 --> 00:08:32,428 Speaker 5: What age group you are. 212 00:08:32,988 --> 00:08:35,868 Speaker 7: You can be the youngest, are the oldest and play 213 00:08:35,908 --> 00:08:37,588 Speaker 7: this game. For a very long time, I realized that 214 00:08:37,628 --> 00:08:40,468 Speaker 7: it really brings families together. And this has really had 215 00:08:40,468 --> 00:08:42,628 Speaker 7: brought out family together. My wife doesn't play golf as 216 00:08:42,708 --> 00:08:45,908 Speaker 7: much as I do, but this is what one game 217 00:08:45,948 --> 00:08:46,908 Speaker 7: she does love to play. 218 00:08:47,748 --> 00:08:51,548 Speaker 2: Excellence bringing marriages together, and you're continuing to bring the 219 00:08:51,548 --> 00:08:52,388 Speaker 2: heat within. 220 00:08:52,228 --> 00:08:53,028 Speaker 6: The NFC North. 221 00:08:53,068 --> 00:08:55,468 Speaker 2: Donald Driver, everybody, thank you so much for coming on 222 00:08:55,508 --> 00:08:58,588 Speaker 2: and setting the stage before lambast the NFL draft. 223 00:08:59,068 --> 00:08:59,988 Speaker 8: Thank you all so much for. 224 00:09:01,468 --> 00:09:02,348 Speaker 6: Donald Driver. 225 00:09:02,748 --> 00:09:04,148 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 226 00:09:03,828 --> 00:09:14,668 Speaker 3: Look at them go good mom football. 227 00:09:15,108 --> 00:09:17,948 Speaker 2: Tom PALLISERA, let's have a conversation, shall we? He you 228 00:09:18,028 --> 00:09:20,668 Speaker 2: released an article on NFL dot com was it last night? 229 00:09:20,708 --> 00:09:22,388 Speaker 2: And I was just catching up with you about how 230 00:09:22,428 --> 00:09:25,748 Speaker 2: you do this approach every year. Set the stage for 231 00:09:25,948 --> 00:09:28,588 Speaker 2: the basis for this article one through thirty two in 232 00:09:28,628 --> 00:09:31,308 Speaker 2: the conversations that you had around the NFL, and then 233 00:09:31,308 --> 00:09:33,628 Speaker 2: we will tee you up on perhaps the juiciest part 234 00:09:33,668 --> 00:09:33,868 Speaker 2: of it. 235 00:09:33,948 --> 00:09:36,908 Speaker 4: Well, let's start with this. I'm not a scout or 236 00:09:36,908 --> 00:09:37,388 Speaker 4: a coach. 237 00:09:37,548 --> 00:09:40,508 Speaker 9: I don't watch a lick tape because ultimately I don't 238 00:09:40,548 --> 00:09:42,708 Speaker 9: know what I'm looking at. So my process is every year, 239 00:09:42,708 --> 00:09:45,508 Speaker 9: because the quarterback is the most important position in the league, 240 00:09:45,748 --> 00:09:48,228 Speaker 9: if I talk to as many coaches, scouts, executives from 241 00:09:48,268 --> 00:09:50,308 Speaker 9: as many teams as possible and just try to get 242 00:09:50,348 --> 00:09:53,308 Speaker 9: a feel for how they view these guys, for how 243 00:09:53,308 --> 00:09:55,028 Speaker 9: they have them grouped together, for where they think they 244 00:09:55,108 --> 00:09:58,148 Speaker 9: might go, for their strengths, for their weaknesses, the positives 245 00:09:58,628 --> 00:10:01,268 Speaker 9: and the negatives, and there's usually. 246 00:10:01,228 --> 00:10:03,308 Speaker 4: Somewhere in there. There's going to be a complicated one. 247 00:10:03,308 --> 00:10:04,348 Speaker 4: This year, it certainly should or. 248 00:10:05,108 --> 00:10:07,788 Speaker 2: Complicated is a very excellent word to use. So let's 249 00:10:07,788 --> 00:10:13,508 Speaker 2: get right into Shador Sanders. Because everyone's opinion about Shador varies, 250 00:10:13,588 --> 00:10:17,428 Speaker 2: and especially when it remains anonymous, perhaps you are allowed 251 00:10:17,468 --> 00:10:19,468 Speaker 2: to share what you actually feel about the young man. 252 00:10:19,508 --> 00:10:21,548 Speaker 2: So you had a wide range of opinions. Can you 253 00:10:21,548 --> 00:10:23,948 Speaker 2: walk us through at least to start maybe the positive first? 254 00:10:24,068 --> 00:10:26,268 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, let's start out with the fact that Shador Sanders, 255 00:10:26,348 --> 00:10:28,548 Speaker 9: he's the Big Twelve Conference Player of the Year, he's 256 00:10:28,588 --> 00:10:31,388 Speaker 9: the second team All American. When you talk to people, 257 00:10:31,708 --> 00:10:33,948 Speaker 9: what they see on tape is, as this executive said, 258 00:10:34,348 --> 00:10:36,668 Speaker 9: if you at just the wow throws, he's got probably 259 00:10:36,668 --> 00:10:39,148 Speaker 9: the best collection of those over the whole entire crop 260 00:10:39,188 --> 00:10:41,428 Speaker 9: when you look at it. We show his highlights all 261 00:10:41,468 --> 00:10:44,708 Speaker 9: the time here on NFL Network on GMFB. What you 262 00:10:44,748 --> 00:10:48,708 Speaker 9: see is Chador making plays and he's creating. But part 263 00:10:48,708 --> 00:10:50,588 Speaker 9: of the issue and some of the drawback here, and 264 00:10:50,628 --> 00:10:52,588 Speaker 9: you see it in this quote too, it's the play 265 00:10:52,628 --> 00:10:55,228 Speaker 9: within structure, it's the plane on time, it's just distributing 266 00:10:55,228 --> 00:10:58,628 Speaker 9: the football because ultimately he's not an elite. 267 00:10:58,548 --> 00:11:00,548 Speaker 4: Caliber athletic profile. 268 00:11:00,588 --> 00:11:02,988 Speaker 9: He does not have an elite arm and so what 269 00:11:03,068 --> 00:11:05,348 Speaker 9: you see on tape is him, you know, running around 270 00:11:05,428 --> 00:11:07,708 Speaker 9: making plays. It's a lot harder to do that in 271 00:11:07,748 --> 00:11:10,468 Speaker 9: the NFL. So can you hone that in? Can you 272 00:11:10,548 --> 00:11:12,548 Speaker 9: get him to play on time? Can you get him 273 00:11:12,548 --> 00:11:15,308 Speaker 9: to play within structure of the offense that's going to 274 00:11:15,348 --> 00:11:17,668 Speaker 9: allow him to be successful in the NFL. That's one 275 00:11:17,668 --> 00:11:19,948 Speaker 9: of the big questions surrounding Shador Sanders. 276 00:11:19,988 --> 00:11:22,268 Speaker 6: What else did you hear surrounding shaduor Sanders? 277 00:11:22,268 --> 00:11:24,628 Speaker 2: Because now these teams GM's coaches, they've had a lot 278 00:11:24,668 --> 00:11:26,148 Speaker 2: of exposure to him. 279 00:11:26,268 --> 00:11:27,948 Speaker 6: What are some other opinions that you got. 280 00:11:28,148 --> 00:11:30,348 Speaker 9: One of the things with Shadoor Sanders is he's got 281 00:11:30,388 --> 00:11:32,708 Speaker 9: a very unique background. Obviously, there's not many guys in 282 00:11:32,748 --> 00:11:34,708 Speaker 9: any NFL draft who grew up as the son of 283 00:11:34,708 --> 00:11:35,908 Speaker 9: one of the greatest. 284 00:11:35,548 --> 00:11:37,188 Speaker 4: Athletes literally in history. 285 00:11:37,388 --> 00:11:39,668 Speaker 9: There's certainly not a lot of the guys who played 286 00:11:39,708 --> 00:11:42,588 Speaker 9: for their father all the way up through high school 287 00:11:42,628 --> 00:11:45,708 Speaker 9: and college. And so part of the concern with Shador 288 00:11:45,868 --> 00:11:47,468 Speaker 9: is just how is he going to do when he 289 00:11:47,508 --> 00:11:50,028 Speaker 9: gets outside of that environment. And to the extent that 290 00:11:50,068 --> 00:11:52,548 Speaker 9: teams wanted to find out some of those answers in interviews, 291 00:11:53,148 --> 00:11:56,068 Speaker 9: it didn't go great and I had numerous people tell 292 00:11:56,108 --> 00:11:58,668 Speaker 9: me things like he made you feel small in the interview. 293 00:11:58,668 --> 00:12:01,628 Speaker 9: He wants to dictate everything is one NFL assistant coach 294 00:12:01,748 --> 00:12:02,748 Speaker 9: is the guy who's been in the league for a 295 00:12:02,748 --> 00:12:03,108 Speaker 9: long time. 296 00:12:03,188 --> 00:12:05,428 Speaker 4: That's the worst formal interview that he's ever been in. 297 00:12:05,468 --> 00:12:06,828 Speaker 9: And then talked about some of the other things he 298 00:12:06,868 --> 00:12:09,068 Speaker 9: does hold onto the football, he does take the sacks. 299 00:12:09,068 --> 00:12:12,108 Speaker 9: There's body language things and concerns like that, and so 300 00:12:12,268 --> 00:12:15,028 Speaker 9: this is not to you know, rag on Shador Sanders. 301 00:12:15,028 --> 00:12:17,388 Speaker 9: It's just the reality that people wanted to get some 302 00:12:17,468 --> 00:12:19,628 Speaker 9: answers to those things. Yeah, the people I talked to 303 00:12:19,668 --> 00:12:22,908 Speaker 9: who met with Shador Sanders, and again it's not unanimous, 304 00:12:23,468 --> 00:12:25,628 Speaker 9: you know, but as one GM told me, it's gonna 305 00:12:25,628 --> 00:12:27,908 Speaker 9: be hard to get a consensus in every building. You 306 00:12:28,188 --> 00:12:31,428 Speaker 9: just gotta like the guy, and certainly you know there 307 00:12:31,428 --> 00:12:34,348 Speaker 9: were people within this process. It's not necessarily about the personality. 308 00:12:34,348 --> 00:12:36,548 Speaker 9: It's just about what are you getting. What are you 309 00:12:36,548 --> 00:12:39,108 Speaker 9: getting from somebody who has never played for anybody besides 310 00:12:39,148 --> 00:12:42,188 Speaker 9: their dad. As you can imagine, there's an accountability factor 311 00:12:42,188 --> 00:12:44,468 Speaker 9: that's a little bit different. You're not gonna bench your 312 00:12:44,588 --> 00:12:46,548 Speaker 9: kid if he changes a play and gets into the 313 00:12:46,588 --> 00:12:48,948 Speaker 9: wrong play. He's not gonna get ripped the same way 314 00:12:48,988 --> 00:12:51,308 Speaker 9: that another player would. And so there's some guys who 315 00:12:51,348 --> 00:12:53,468 Speaker 9: are going to thrive. You go back, and I think 316 00:12:53,508 --> 00:12:54,868 Speaker 9: of it this all right. I was on the Green 317 00:12:54,908 --> 00:12:57,228 Speaker 9: Bay Prescozet beat in two thousand and eight when they 318 00:12:57,228 --> 00:12:59,668 Speaker 9: took a guy named Brian Brohm, who had been projected 319 00:12:59,668 --> 00:13:01,748 Speaker 9: as potential number one pick. He slid all the way 320 00:13:01,788 --> 00:13:04,028 Speaker 9: down to the late second round. He had played for 321 00:13:04,468 --> 00:13:06,508 Speaker 9: his dad all growing up in through high school. He 322 00:13:06,548 --> 00:13:09,788 Speaker 9: played for his brother in college. The Packers made a gamble, Hey, 323 00:13:09,988 --> 00:13:12,188 Speaker 9: we think he's gonna spread his wings and fly when 324 00:13:12,188 --> 00:13:14,708 Speaker 9: he gets outside of the environment, and instead he completely crumbled. 325 00:13:14,708 --> 00:13:16,868 Speaker 9: He get beat up by a seventh thrownd pick Matt Flynn. 326 00:13:16,908 --> 00:13:18,468 Speaker 4: They cut him. He started two games and he was 327 00:13:18,548 --> 00:13:19,748 Speaker 4: out of the NFL. 328 00:13:19,788 --> 00:13:22,828 Speaker 9: Okay, that's the unknown when it comes to a guy 329 00:13:22,868 --> 00:13:25,108 Speaker 9: who just simply has never played in the type of 330 00:13:25,188 --> 00:13:26,388 Speaker 9: environment's going to be in the NFL. 331 00:13:26,468 --> 00:13:26,748 Speaker 3: Okay. 332 00:13:26,828 --> 00:13:28,908 Speaker 2: Yes, it is a test for everybody, Kyle Brandt as 333 00:13:28,908 --> 00:13:31,108 Speaker 2: they hit the league in the NFL and they get drafted. 334 00:13:31,148 --> 00:13:33,788 Speaker 6: Whether or not Shudur Sanders thrives remains to be seen. 335 00:13:34,148 --> 00:13:35,668 Speaker 2: Kyle, what do you think about all this that Tom 336 00:13:35,668 --> 00:13:36,708 Speaker 2: p put out last night. 337 00:13:36,788 --> 00:13:37,908 Speaker 5: I think the piece is incredible. 338 00:13:37,908 --> 00:13:39,668 Speaker 1: I actually read it this morning. I learned a lot 339 00:13:39,708 --> 00:13:41,468 Speaker 1: of things this morning that I haven't known in the 340 00:13:41,508 --> 00:13:43,508 Speaker 1: last six weeks. I'm talking about this draft and the 341 00:13:43,548 --> 00:13:46,228 Speaker 1: Brian Brohm part of it was just one fun little detail. 342 00:13:46,348 --> 00:13:48,308 Speaker 1: I'm in my feelings about this right now. Maybe it's 343 00:13:48,308 --> 00:13:51,068 Speaker 1: because the draft is tomorrow. Bring up the quote, bring 344 00:13:51,108 --> 00:13:53,468 Speaker 1: it up. The worst formul than they've ever been in 345 00:13:53,468 --> 00:13:56,548 Speaker 1: my life. He's so entireled horrible. Boy, he's not that 346 00:13:57,068 --> 00:13:59,948 Speaker 1: shut up anonymous coach. I'm so triggered as shut up. 347 00:14:00,268 --> 00:14:04,628 Speaker 1: This is not only anonymous. I think it's tasteless. I 348 00:14:04,628 --> 00:14:08,388 Speaker 1: think the timing is ridiculous. The worst formal interview I've 349 00:14:08,468 --> 00:14:09,988 Speaker 1: ever is it really? 350 00:14:10,588 --> 00:14:10,788 Speaker 11: Is it? 351 00:14:11,028 --> 00:14:13,588 Speaker 1: Or are you just going for a headline or maybe 352 00:14:13,748 --> 00:14:16,348 Speaker 1: have you not been in that many interviews in your 353 00:14:16,388 --> 00:14:20,068 Speaker 1: career this is the worst one ever. Or maybe maybe 354 00:14:20,108 --> 00:14:23,708 Speaker 1: the vibe that you set in the room was critical 355 00:14:23,748 --> 00:14:26,628 Speaker 1: and Shador picked up on that, and maybe he was right, 356 00:14:26,748 --> 00:14:29,228 Speaker 1: because the first second you could you betrayed the sanctity 357 00:14:29,268 --> 00:14:32,748 Speaker 1: of that room and went anonymously and started spouting off 358 00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:33,588 Speaker 1: about this player. 359 00:14:33,868 --> 00:14:35,228 Speaker 4: He's so entitled. 360 00:14:35,748 --> 00:14:39,068 Speaker 1: I see entitlement in a grown professional who was going 361 00:14:39,108 --> 00:14:45,028 Speaker 1: around anonymously destroying young athletes with very personal quotes, anonymously 362 00:14:45,588 --> 00:14:48,348 Speaker 1: as they're about to realize their dream and become professionals. 363 00:14:48,588 --> 00:14:51,628 Speaker 1: Do not listen to that quote. That quote is bukrap, 364 00:14:51,948 --> 00:14:53,348 Speaker 1: it's news, it's worthy. 365 00:14:53,428 --> 00:14:56,268 Speaker 5: I hate that quote. Listen to Shador's. 366 00:14:55,788 --> 00:14:58,948 Speaker 1: Teammates who kept picking him up over and over as 367 00:14:58,948 --> 00:15:00,868 Speaker 1: he got the crap kicked out of him last year, 368 00:15:01,028 --> 00:15:03,308 Speaker 1: who don't have negative things to say about him, who 369 00:15:03,388 --> 00:15:05,228 Speaker 1: know him, who have been in rooms. 370 00:15:04,948 --> 00:15:05,868 Speaker 5: With him, don't listen to this. 371 00:15:06,108 --> 00:15:07,948 Speaker 4: He says he's not that good. 372 00:15:08,348 --> 00:15:11,148 Speaker 1: Well, maybe neither are you, anonymous coach, and maybe that's 373 00:15:11,188 --> 00:15:12,988 Speaker 1: why you're an assistant coach and not a head coach, 374 00:15:12,988 --> 00:15:14,548 Speaker 1: and you have been for a long time. I am 375 00:15:14,588 --> 00:15:17,068 Speaker 1: so triggered by this. I think it's nonsense. I love 376 00:15:17,148 --> 00:15:19,348 Speaker 1: the piece. It's getting us talking, it's part of the 377 00:15:19,348 --> 00:15:23,148 Speaker 1: Shader experience. But that anonymous, that personal, and that critical 378 00:15:23,148 --> 00:15:24,948 Speaker 1: of this timing is garbage. 379 00:15:25,108 --> 00:15:27,508 Speaker 5: Oh we Kyle, I like it man. 380 00:15:28,268 --> 00:15:31,468 Speaker 12: First of all, great piece, Tommy p Man, great job 381 00:15:31,548 --> 00:15:34,828 Speaker 12: man breaking stuff down, man, expert piece by you man. 382 00:15:34,868 --> 00:15:36,468 Speaker 8: Seriously, but to your point. 383 00:15:36,988 --> 00:15:40,868 Speaker 12: I don't necessarily agree with anonymous coaches, like put your 384 00:15:40,948 --> 00:15:42,708 Speaker 12: name on it. If you truly think that this was 385 00:15:42,708 --> 00:15:44,668 Speaker 12: a terrible interview, put your name on the number one. 386 00:15:44,788 --> 00:15:45,188 Speaker 8: Number two. 387 00:15:45,188 --> 00:15:46,868 Speaker 12: I've had some I've had a chance to be around 388 00:15:46,868 --> 00:15:49,028 Speaker 12: Shador at the Super Bowl. I was taping to Get 389 00:15:49,028 --> 00:15:51,028 Speaker 12: God podcast that I do with Beast Mode, and I 390 00:15:51,028 --> 00:15:53,468 Speaker 12: got a chance to be around Shador in his element, 391 00:15:53,708 --> 00:15:57,268 Speaker 12: around his people, and you know, kind of in a 392 00:15:57,308 --> 00:16:00,028 Speaker 12: relaxed environment. And what I can say is, the dude 393 00:16:00,148 --> 00:16:03,148 Speaker 12: is a leader. Like the dude is a force multiplier. 394 00:16:03,188 --> 00:16:05,708 Speaker 12: Like I always tell people, if Tom Brady was in it, 395 00:16:05,748 --> 00:16:07,628 Speaker 12: and I'm not compared to do it to Tom Brady, 396 00:16:07,668 --> 00:16:09,988 Speaker 12: but if Tom Brady was in his draft, he would 397 00:16:09,988 --> 00:16:12,348 Speaker 12: probably still go in the sixth round, right, because the 398 00:16:12,428 --> 00:16:16,148 Speaker 12: draft is all about, you know, explosive traits and things 399 00:16:16,348 --> 00:16:19,508 Speaker 12: and things like that. Honestly, if I'm a team picking 400 00:16:19,548 --> 00:16:21,988 Speaker 12: at the top of the draft, I want a quarterback. 401 00:16:21,508 --> 00:16:23,148 Speaker 5: That's going to be a force multiplier. 402 00:16:23,188 --> 00:16:26,108 Speaker 12: When I ranked the quarterback, Shador is my number one 403 00:16:26,188 --> 00:16:29,668 Speaker 12: quarterback number Why because the guy completes seventy percent of 404 00:16:29,748 --> 00:16:32,108 Speaker 12: his passes. The number one thing of a quarterback is 405 00:16:32,108 --> 00:16:34,908 Speaker 12: to complete the passes and Tommy Pete to your point, 406 00:16:34,948 --> 00:16:37,828 Speaker 12: I do not think all of the running around would 407 00:16:37,828 --> 00:16:40,148 Speaker 12: be good in the National Football League, but I think 408 00:16:40,188 --> 00:16:42,668 Speaker 12: the kid can play on time. Did you see his 409 00:16:42,748 --> 00:16:44,188 Speaker 12: offensive line in college? 410 00:16:44,548 --> 00:16:46,588 Speaker 5: Like, did you see it? I mean it was terrible, 411 00:16:46,708 --> 00:16:47,388 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. 412 00:16:47,388 --> 00:16:50,308 Speaker 12: And the kid made lemonade out of lemons. So at 413 00:16:50,348 --> 00:16:52,748 Speaker 12: the end of the day, I want to see Chador 414 00:16:53,148 --> 00:16:53,668 Speaker 12: do well. 415 00:16:53,748 --> 00:16:55,228 Speaker 8: I don't care where he goes. 416 00:16:55,268 --> 00:16:56,828 Speaker 12: I think he's a kid that can step in the 417 00:16:56,828 --> 00:17:01,188 Speaker 12: locker room and he's going to make everybody around him better. 418 00:17:01,428 --> 00:17:03,668 Speaker 12: And again, I think it's a lot of adults that's 419 00:17:03,708 --> 00:17:07,188 Speaker 12: evaluating he's athletes right now. It's just jealous of his dad. 420 00:17:07,228 --> 00:17:09,028 Speaker 12: And so we just got to call a spadea s. 421 00:17:08,908 --> 00:17:12,628 Speaker 2: Base, all right, So we are able to understand that 422 00:17:12,668 --> 00:17:15,028 Speaker 2: this is tom You're trying to be representative of the 423 00:17:15,188 --> 00:17:16,508 Speaker 2: entire conversation. 424 00:17:16,668 --> 00:17:17,868 Speaker 5: You're right, Let's make. 425 00:17:17,708 --> 00:17:20,428 Speaker 9: Clear it's the potit of the negative on every quarterback 426 00:17:20,428 --> 00:17:22,268 Speaker 9: in the draft. We're showing a couple of quotes here. 427 00:17:22,308 --> 00:17:25,148 Speaker 9: There's twenty two hundred words on Shador Sanders alone. But listen, 428 00:17:25,268 --> 00:17:29,228 Speaker 9: you're very rarely going to get a completely unanimous opinion 429 00:17:29,508 --> 00:17:32,508 Speaker 9: about anybody in the draft. Cam Ward is the clear 430 00:17:32,548 --> 00:17:35,628 Speaker 9: consensus number one. But even with cam Ward, if you 431 00:17:35,708 --> 00:17:37,988 Speaker 9: make enough calls, if you talk to enough people, you'll 432 00:17:38,028 --> 00:17:40,668 Speaker 9: hear concerns about how is he going to play, because again, 433 00:17:40,748 --> 00:17:42,548 Speaker 9: there's a lot of backyard in his game, and some 434 00:17:42,548 --> 00:17:45,068 Speaker 9: people compare it to Caleb Williams last year without Caleb 435 00:17:45,108 --> 00:17:47,428 Speaker 9: Williams elite arm. Now he's the one guy who projects 436 00:17:47,428 --> 00:17:50,548 Speaker 9: as a starter. But whether you're talking about Shador Sanders 437 00:17:50,708 --> 00:17:53,948 Speaker 9: or you're talking about Jalen Milroe, you're talking about Jackson Dark, 438 00:17:53,988 --> 00:17:57,388 Speaker 9: Tyler Shuck, there's positive and negatives on all those guys. 439 00:17:57,628 --> 00:18:00,548 Speaker 9: And that's where there's real variance in this draft in 440 00:18:00,628 --> 00:18:03,628 Speaker 9: terms of yes, cam Ward presumptive number one pick to 441 00:18:03,668 --> 00:18:06,188 Speaker 9: the Tennessee type. But that next group of four guys, 442 00:18:06,388 --> 00:18:08,708 Speaker 9: any of those guys, including Shur, could go in the first. 443 00:18:09,308 --> 00:18:11,828 Speaker 4: Any of them could slide entirely out of the first. 444 00:18:12,148 --> 00:18:16,548 Speaker 9: The interview process, the background is so unique on Shadeur 445 00:18:17,028 --> 00:18:19,908 Speaker 9: that it just lends a different element to the conversation. 446 00:18:20,028 --> 00:18:23,628 Speaker 1: Understood, Kyle, tom tappan your experience and listen, it's a 447 00:18:23,708 --> 00:18:26,348 Speaker 1: day before the draft. I got the flamethrower out this morning, 448 00:18:26,388 --> 00:18:27,988 Speaker 1: because We've been talking about this for weeks and I'm 449 00:18:28,028 --> 00:18:30,108 Speaker 1: kind of sensitive about different things, but I'm passionate about 450 00:18:30,148 --> 00:18:32,308 Speaker 1: this stuff, like a lot of fans are watching, and 451 00:18:32,348 --> 00:18:34,068 Speaker 1: I think the reason I'm so riled up about the 452 00:18:34,108 --> 00:18:37,508 Speaker 1: anonymous quote about Shador Sanders is it's an easy target. 453 00:18:37,588 --> 00:18:39,828 Speaker 1: And I wonder if that same quote would go to 454 00:18:39,948 --> 00:18:43,228 Speaker 1: Shaduur Smith if his last name was not Sanders, Tom, 455 00:18:43,348 --> 00:18:45,268 Speaker 1: what do you get You've been doing this for years 456 00:18:45,308 --> 00:18:47,508 Speaker 1: and this year, you've been doing it for weeks and months. 457 00:18:47,588 --> 00:18:52,188 Speaker 1: What is your sense about a bias against Schadeur Sanders, 458 00:18:52,228 --> 00:18:53,708 Speaker 1: not the athletes. 459 00:18:53,388 --> 00:18:53,908 Speaker 5: Not anything. 460 00:18:53,988 --> 00:18:56,748 Speaker 1: It's just about like, ugh, all of that it that 461 00:18:56,908 --> 00:19:00,028 Speaker 1: comes with it, and Dion in primetime and diamond necklaces 462 00:19:00,068 --> 00:19:02,268 Speaker 1: and rap tracks and like, what is the sense of 463 00:19:02,308 --> 00:19:04,108 Speaker 1: that in the league or is it just no, he's 464 00:19:04,108 --> 00:19:05,628 Speaker 1: a really good player and we don't care about that 465 00:19:05,668 --> 00:19:06,188 Speaker 1: other stuff. 466 00:19:06,588 --> 00:19:09,148 Speaker 9: I think that when it comes to Shador Sanders, and 467 00:19:09,188 --> 00:19:11,788 Speaker 9: based on my conversations, the sense I get is you're sorry. 468 00:19:11,788 --> 00:19:13,868 Speaker 9: Now let's talk about the player for a second here. Yes, 469 00:19:13,908 --> 00:19:17,668 Speaker 9: he was highly productive in college, but he plays a 470 00:19:17,788 --> 00:19:19,828 Speaker 9: style that's probably not going to work with his skill 471 00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:21,868 Speaker 9: set in the NFL because he's not the biggest guy, 472 00:19:21,908 --> 00:19:23,948 Speaker 9: he doesn't have the biggest harm. He is really tough, 473 00:19:24,148 --> 00:19:28,068 Speaker 9: he is really accurate. That is absolutely true, But you 474 00:19:28,188 --> 00:19:30,508 Speaker 9: have some of these other concerns about exactly how he's 475 00:19:30,548 --> 00:19:32,708 Speaker 9: going to play. And also there's things like, you know, 476 00:19:32,748 --> 00:19:35,148 Speaker 9: he plays for a former NFL head coach in Pat 477 00:19:35,148 --> 00:19:37,468 Speaker 9: Srber last year, and there are times again talking to 478 00:19:37,588 --> 00:19:40,388 Speaker 9: people within the league where he's changing place and things 479 00:19:40,388 --> 00:19:42,788 Speaker 9: are going wrong and he's not being held accountable the same. 480 00:19:42,628 --> 00:19:43,548 Speaker 4: Way other people would. 481 00:19:43,708 --> 00:19:46,468 Speaker 9: I don't think it's a bias against Dion. There is 482 00:19:46,508 --> 00:19:48,428 Speaker 9: a reality too, and I mentioned this in the in 483 00:19:48,468 --> 00:19:51,188 Speaker 9: the story as well, the fact that you know, Dion 484 00:19:51,268 --> 00:19:53,988 Speaker 9: already has come out and anytime there's been anything remotely 485 00:19:54,028 --> 00:19:57,308 Speaker 9: negative said about Shador and this may happen again today, 486 00:19:57,668 --> 00:20:01,028 Speaker 9: Dion has weighed in and basically has put everybody on blast. Yeah, 487 00:20:01,108 --> 00:20:03,748 Speaker 9: there's a real concern with teams and listen, maybe they 488 00:20:03,748 --> 00:20:05,588 Speaker 9: should be more comfort in their jobs, maybe they should 489 00:20:05,588 --> 00:20:07,988 Speaker 9: be more confident, and that shouldn't bother them. But the 490 00:20:07,988 --> 00:20:09,628 Speaker 9: fact that you could have d On coming out there 491 00:20:09,668 --> 00:20:11,548 Speaker 9: and saying things if she door is not the starter 492 00:20:11,668 --> 00:20:13,988 Speaker 9: and making comments whether he's back channeling to try to 493 00:20:13,988 --> 00:20:16,348 Speaker 9: get the job. Those are real things. And again, this 494 00:20:16,468 --> 00:20:18,788 Speaker 9: is a this is a one of one type of 495 00:20:18,788 --> 00:20:21,988 Speaker 9: a situation. The greatest athlete we've ever seen and his 496 00:20:22,188 --> 00:20:24,988 Speaker 9: kid is a quarterback who, for whatever reason. 497 00:20:25,068 --> 00:20:26,948 Speaker 4: Is not the greatest athlete of all time. 498 00:20:26,988 --> 00:20:28,588 Speaker 9: And that's one of the things that people are concerned 499 00:20:28,588 --> 00:20:30,588 Speaker 9: about in terms of translating his praises placed out of 500 00:20:30,588 --> 00:20:31,028 Speaker 9: the NFL. 501 00:20:31,228 --> 00:20:33,428 Speaker 12: Right, what you got, Yeah, but it just seems like, 502 00:20:33,628 --> 00:20:36,068 Speaker 12: you know, if being an athlete was the prerequisite to 503 00:20:36,148 --> 00:20:38,148 Speaker 12: playing in the National Football League, that would be as 504 00:20:38,188 --> 00:20:40,988 Speaker 12: some guys just not playing. So you know, I understand 505 00:20:40,988 --> 00:20:44,148 Speaker 12: that should do it. Maybe doesn't have the genetic code 506 00:20:44,188 --> 00:20:47,468 Speaker 12: that his dad Prime had, but again, you just got 507 00:20:47,508 --> 00:20:49,548 Speaker 12: to look at the numbers, the proofers in the pudding. 508 00:20:49,948 --> 00:20:53,868 Speaker 12: Everywhere this kid has went, I mean, instant offenses followed, 509 00:20:53,948 --> 00:20:58,428 Speaker 12: you know, explosive plays have followed, seventy percent over seventy percent, 510 00:20:58,468 --> 00:21:02,028 Speaker 12: completion percentage has followed. What I will say is this, though, 511 00:21:02,308 --> 00:21:05,148 Speaker 12: I would be concerned bringing him in if he starts 512 00:21:05,148 --> 00:21:08,588 Speaker 12: off as in a backup role, because again, he's going 513 00:21:08,908 --> 00:21:12,068 Speaker 12: to have the locker room the minute he walks into 514 00:21:12,148 --> 00:21:14,468 Speaker 12: the locker room. There's gonna be guys in that locker 515 00:21:14,548 --> 00:21:17,188 Speaker 12: room that's gonna be attracted to Chadeur. That's gonna be 516 00:21:17,188 --> 00:21:20,308 Speaker 12: one to be around Shador and he's he's always been 517 00:21:20,348 --> 00:21:23,268 Speaker 12: in a leadership role, so I just if you bring 518 00:21:23,348 --> 00:21:26,628 Speaker 12: him in, he's gonna have to play pretty fast. 519 00:21:26,788 --> 00:21:30,108 Speaker 2: Inherently, this is why Tom does articles like this because 520 00:21:30,188 --> 00:21:32,908 Speaker 2: every position is important, but the quarterback is the headline 521 00:21:32,908 --> 00:21:35,548 Speaker 2: worthy one. There's eighteen prospects that you focused on in 522 00:21:35,588 --> 00:21:37,788 Speaker 2: your article. NFL dot Com go check it out. 523 00:21:37,868 --> 00:21:40,588 Speaker 4: Oh about Montana States Tommy Malotte. 524 00:21:40,268 --> 00:21:56,348 Speaker 3: Do it good football, Good money football. 525 00:21:56,668 --> 00:22:00,148 Speaker 2: We're back on GMSB and time for the roundup, presented 526 00:22:00,188 --> 00:22:03,388 Speaker 2: by Roundup for Lines. It's the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. 527 00:22:03,428 --> 00:22:06,108 Speaker 2: It's here and some times it's most important to also 528 00:22:06,148 --> 00:22:09,708 Speaker 2: pay attention to guys and people and coaches that got 529 00:22:09,748 --> 00:22:12,468 Speaker 2: these players to the point where they are walking across 530 00:22:12,508 --> 00:22:15,308 Speaker 2: that stage behind us in Green Bay. This weekend, we're 531 00:22:15,308 --> 00:22:18,108 Speaker 2: looking right at Alabama. You hear about all these players 532 00:22:18,108 --> 00:22:21,028 Speaker 2: come out of Tuscaloosa every year, and in his first 533 00:22:21,108 --> 00:22:24,388 Speaker 2: year as a head coach, Kaylin Debor was awesome with 534 00:22:24,468 --> 00:22:27,148 Speaker 2: Alabama and he's on the show now GMFB coach high 535 00:22:27,188 --> 00:22:29,548 Speaker 2: guitar all time. 536 00:22:30,028 --> 00:22:31,388 Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on. Good Morning. 537 00:22:33,548 --> 00:22:37,468 Speaker 2: Oh there's so many coaches, that's all right, more coaches 538 00:22:37,508 --> 00:22:37,788 Speaker 2: than us. 539 00:22:37,868 --> 00:22:39,588 Speaker 6: That's how we like it. Coach, you got it. We 540 00:22:39,668 --> 00:22:40,828 Speaker 6: just mentioned him in the last segment. 541 00:22:40,828 --> 00:22:43,148 Speaker 2: You've got three players here that are going to experience 542 00:22:43,188 --> 00:22:47,428 Speaker 2: this weekend together and Jalen Milroe, Johad Campbell and Tyler 543 00:22:47,468 --> 00:22:49,548 Speaker 2: Booker the awesome personalities. 544 00:22:49,588 --> 00:22:51,308 Speaker 6: Great guys. Can you just speak on. 545 00:22:51,268 --> 00:22:53,548 Speaker 2: What those three did for your first year as a 546 00:22:53,548 --> 00:22:56,188 Speaker 2: head coach at Alabama and your organization you're building. 547 00:22:57,268 --> 00:23:00,588 Speaker 11: Yeah, without a doubt. You know, it's a broken record. 548 00:23:00,628 --> 00:23:03,308 Speaker 11: Whenever people ask me about each of them individually, and 549 00:23:03,348 --> 00:23:05,468 Speaker 11: I go from one to the other and I say, 550 00:23:05,628 --> 00:23:08,228 Speaker 11: this guy is special as a person, it's the. 551 00:23:08,188 --> 00:23:09,588 Speaker 8: Same thing for all three of them. 552 00:23:09,628 --> 00:23:13,468 Speaker 11: They all have three you know, outgoing personalities that they 553 00:23:13,548 --> 00:23:15,788 Speaker 11: carry a smile on their face. But they're tenacious on 554 00:23:15,788 --> 00:23:19,188 Speaker 11: the football field and so very similar that way. But 555 00:23:19,508 --> 00:23:22,148 Speaker 11: obviously it's super excited about what they're going to bring 556 00:23:22,988 --> 00:23:25,588 Speaker 11: to the future, you know, not just for themselves, but 557 00:23:25,628 --> 00:23:28,668 Speaker 11: also continue to highlight what Alabama Football's done for them. 558 00:23:28,668 --> 00:23:31,548 Speaker 11: But they were instrumental in helping just be the glue 559 00:23:32,388 --> 00:23:35,388 Speaker 11: through a through a transition last year, and you know, 560 00:23:35,788 --> 00:23:38,748 Speaker 11: I'm excited for them, you know, one of their biggest fans, 561 00:23:38,748 --> 00:23:39,228 Speaker 11: that's for sure. 562 00:23:41,188 --> 00:23:43,108 Speaker 8: You're always good at talking about your players. 563 00:23:43,108 --> 00:23:44,868 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask you to talk about yourself a 564 00:23:44,908 --> 00:23:47,668 Speaker 1: bit for people watching at home. You had the task 565 00:23:47,748 --> 00:23:50,708 Speaker 1: of replacing Nick Saban, a man who had the championships, 566 00:23:50,748 --> 00:23:53,548 Speaker 1: man who has a statue, who is an icon. It's 567 00:23:53,588 --> 00:23:55,908 Speaker 1: such an overwhelming task to step into that role. How 568 00:23:55,908 --> 00:23:57,748 Speaker 1: did you go about it and how did you find success? 569 00:23:58,948 --> 00:23:59,108 Speaker 5: Well? 570 00:23:59,148 --> 00:24:01,308 Speaker 11: I think you just you understand what you're coming into 571 00:24:01,428 --> 00:24:05,388 Speaker 11: and it's a program that has just decades and decades 572 00:24:05,388 --> 00:24:08,508 Speaker 11: of success and there's instrumental people that have that have 573 00:24:08,628 --> 00:24:12,108 Speaker 11: taken it to greater heights. And Coach Saban obviously took 574 00:24:12,188 --> 00:24:16,308 Speaker 11: it to an unbelievable place. And you know, his his 575 00:24:16,428 --> 00:24:18,868 Speaker 11: mark is all over this building, all over this program 576 00:24:18,948 --> 00:24:21,428 Speaker 11: forever will be. And so just you know, you understand 577 00:24:21,428 --> 00:24:23,188 Speaker 11: that there's gonna be people before you, the understanding there's 578 00:24:23,188 --> 00:24:26,108 Speaker 11: always gonna be people after you, and I'm just privileged 579 00:24:26,108 --> 00:24:28,388 Speaker 11: to come in and try to continue to build and 580 00:24:29,628 --> 00:24:32,468 Speaker 11: you know, build on what the foundation is this program, 581 00:24:32,508 --> 00:24:37,028 Speaker 11: And obviously coach Saban was amazing during his seventeen years here. 582 00:24:38,588 --> 00:24:41,748 Speaker 9: Cale and all my conversations with NFL coaches, scouts executive 583 00:24:41,868 --> 00:24:43,108 Speaker 9: leading up to this draft, one of the things that 584 00:24:43,188 --> 00:24:46,228 Speaker 9: jumped out at me was how highly people rate Jalen 585 00:24:46,268 --> 00:24:49,068 Speaker 9: Milroe as a runner, putting him in the same conversation 586 00:24:49,108 --> 00:24:52,028 Speaker 9: as guys like Lamar Jackson. Now, Lamar also improved a 587 00:24:52,068 --> 00:24:54,628 Speaker 9: ton of a passer after getting into the NFL. What 588 00:24:54,668 --> 00:24:56,348 Speaker 9: do you think about the comparisons in terms of the 589 00:24:56,388 --> 00:24:58,228 Speaker 9: running ability to some of the best we've seen, and 590 00:24:58,308 --> 00:25:00,508 Speaker 9: doesn't have that same developmental upside with his arm. 591 00:25:01,668 --> 00:25:03,508 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean as a runner, you know, I didn't 592 00:25:03,548 --> 00:25:05,948 Speaker 11: I didn't get a chance is to coach those guys. 593 00:25:05,668 --> 00:25:08,628 Speaker 8: Obviously, but you watch the you watch you know, football, 594 00:25:08,668 --> 00:25:10,228 Speaker 8: and you see what they're capable of. 595 00:25:10,628 --> 00:25:12,908 Speaker 11: I just know, speaking on me half of Jalen, he 596 00:25:13,108 --> 00:25:16,948 Speaker 11: was many times the greatest athlete on the football field, 597 00:25:17,148 --> 00:25:20,228 Speaker 11: and you know what he could do with the football 598 00:25:20,228 --> 00:25:22,148 Speaker 11: in his hands. We just had to make sure we 599 00:25:22,148 --> 00:25:26,748 Speaker 11: were giving him enough opportunities to go do that, you know, 600 00:25:27,028 --> 00:25:30,068 Speaker 11: making people miss. He could put his shoulder down and 601 00:25:30,188 --> 00:25:33,948 Speaker 11: he needed to and get those yards, but inside, outside, 602 00:25:33,988 --> 00:25:37,308 Speaker 11: it really didn't matter. You know, he's he could take 603 00:25:37,348 --> 00:25:37,908 Speaker 11: it the distance. 604 00:25:37,948 --> 00:25:38,308 Speaker 8: I think. 605 00:25:38,628 --> 00:25:41,108 Speaker 11: You know, as a defensive coordinator, you know if I 606 00:25:41,148 --> 00:25:44,188 Speaker 11: was in those shoes, you know you're kind of worried 607 00:25:44,308 --> 00:25:47,348 Speaker 11: every single play when the ball is snapped to make 608 00:25:47,388 --> 00:25:50,388 Speaker 11: sure that he doesn't get lose, not just move. 609 00:25:50,188 --> 00:25:51,508 Speaker 8: The chains, but taking the distance. 610 00:25:53,828 --> 00:25:56,668 Speaker 1: Coach, We've had many many prospects on the show over 611 00:25:56,668 --> 00:25:59,028 Speaker 1: the last several weeks, and personally, I've not been impressed 612 00:25:59,028 --> 00:26:00,948 Speaker 1: with any of them more than I was with Jalen Milroll. 613 00:26:00,988 --> 00:26:05,148 Speaker 1: An incredible, incredibly sharp, eager, interesting guy. We absolutely fell 614 00:26:05,148 --> 00:26:07,388 Speaker 1: in love with him immediately. To that point, I want 615 00:26:07,388 --> 00:26:08,948 Speaker 1: you to bring us run and bring you into our 616 00:26:08,988 --> 00:26:10,068 Speaker 1: opening segment of our show. 617 00:26:10,068 --> 00:26:10,588 Speaker 8: We just did. 618 00:26:11,308 --> 00:26:13,428 Speaker 4: He's here, and he's here at the draft. 619 00:26:13,468 --> 00:26:16,548 Speaker 1: He's attending the draft, and we, as football fans and 620 00:26:16,588 --> 00:26:20,028 Speaker 1: admirers of his, have some nerves about whether he may 621 00:26:20,068 --> 00:26:22,388 Speaker 1: be drafted or not. There's a lot of prognosticators who 622 00:26:22,428 --> 00:26:24,148 Speaker 1: do this for a living who say that Jalen Milbroll 623 00:26:24,148 --> 00:26:26,508 Speaker 1: will not be taken in the first round. It raised 624 00:26:26,548 --> 00:26:29,028 Speaker 1: some eyebrows when he chose to attend the draft despite 625 00:26:29,068 --> 00:26:30,508 Speaker 1: that how did it make you feel. 626 00:26:30,348 --> 00:26:31,028 Speaker 8: About the decision. 627 00:26:31,668 --> 00:26:33,828 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I just know what Jalen's all about, 628 00:26:33,908 --> 00:26:37,428 Speaker 11: and you know, he appreciates every opportunity he gets, whether 629 00:26:37,468 --> 00:26:40,948 Speaker 11: it's on the football field, being around people who are 630 00:26:40,988 --> 00:26:43,508 Speaker 11: fans of his, supports of his He's going to give 631 00:26:43,548 --> 00:26:44,508 Speaker 11: everything he has. 632 00:26:44,388 --> 00:26:45,028 Speaker 8: To those people. 633 00:26:45,068 --> 00:26:47,588 Speaker 11: And I think, you know, just living life in general, 634 00:26:47,948 --> 00:26:50,308 Speaker 11: he got invited. This is an opportunity. And yes, you 635 00:26:50,348 --> 00:26:52,508 Speaker 11: don't know exactly. I mean, just like any other player, 636 00:26:52,508 --> 00:26:54,588 Speaker 11: you don't know exactly where you're going to go. But 637 00:26:54,628 --> 00:26:58,228 Speaker 11: these experiences are what you work to your entire life 638 00:26:58,228 --> 00:27:01,148 Speaker 11: for and I understand it can go different directions, but 639 00:27:02,228 --> 00:27:03,948 Speaker 11: you know, he's an enjoy this experience. And I think 640 00:27:03,948 --> 00:27:07,028 Speaker 11: there's also a piece where there isn't just one other teammate. 641 00:27:07,068 --> 00:27:09,268 Speaker 11: There's two other teammates that are there with him, and 642 00:27:09,308 --> 00:27:11,788 Speaker 11: he's also they're not just for himself, but he's also 643 00:27:11,828 --> 00:27:14,908 Speaker 11: to support them and enjoy this experience together with all. 644 00:27:14,788 --> 00:27:15,348 Speaker 8: Three of them. 645 00:27:17,108 --> 00:27:19,108 Speaker 2: I believe it, and you mentioned it. Those two other guys, 646 00:27:19,108 --> 00:27:21,308 Speaker 2: and Johad Campbell and Tyler Barker. We've also had them 647 00:27:21,348 --> 00:27:25,028 Speaker 2: on GMFB and they were at IMG Academy together, These 648 00:27:25,068 --> 00:27:27,108 Speaker 2: two know each other so well, to the point where 649 00:27:27,148 --> 00:27:30,868 Speaker 2: John Campbell called Tyler Booker an absolute dog on our show. 650 00:27:31,148 --> 00:27:34,148 Speaker 2: My favorite thing about Tyler Booker is the zero sacks 651 00:27:34,188 --> 00:27:36,628 Speaker 2: giving up on three hundred and seventy one pass attempts 652 00:27:36,628 --> 00:27:39,988 Speaker 2: for Jalen Milroe this season. An absolute stud. What's it 653 00:27:40,028 --> 00:27:42,468 Speaker 2: about him that allows him to protect the quarterback? And 654 00:27:42,468 --> 00:27:44,708 Speaker 2: why is he their new best friend in the NFL? 655 00:27:45,588 --> 00:27:47,548 Speaker 8: Well, you know, and I'll. 656 00:27:47,348 --> 00:27:49,428 Speaker 11: Talk about the past drink, but he also is a 657 00:27:49,428 --> 00:27:51,308 Speaker 11: finisher on the on the run blocking side. 658 00:27:51,308 --> 00:27:53,708 Speaker 8: I think that's what makes him elite, and so he 659 00:27:53,748 --> 00:27:54,508 Speaker 8: can do it both. 660 00:27:54,588 --> 00:27:57,108 Speaker 11: But you know, he's just an anchor inside and you 661 00:27:57,108 --> 00:27:59,828 Speaker 11: know he's going to be firm inside in the middle 662 00:27:59,868 --> 00:28:02,788 Speaker 11: interior there. I would put it as far as him 663 00:28:02,828 --> 00:28:05,828 Speaker 11: being a guy that at some point, as he continues. 664 00:28:05,388 --> 00:28:07,828 Speaker 8: To grow and develop, couldn't even move to the outside. 665 00:28:07,828 --> 00:28:10,628 Speaker 11: We had him met tackle for a game there and 666 00:28:10,908 --> 00:28:15,868 Speaker 11: he made that transition seamless against you know, a good opponent. 667 00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:18,268 Speaker 8: And you know, I just I think he's. 668 00:28:18,068 --> 00:28:21,108 Speaker 11: So versatile and his best football just I think all 669 00:28:21,148 --> 00:28:22,548 Speaker 11: these guys is still ahead of him. 670 00:28:22,588 --> 00:28:24,908 Speaker 8: But he understands the game. 671 00:28:25,268 --> 00:28:28,228 Speaker 11: He's tenacious, not just a run blocker, but he's going 672 00:28:28,308 --> 00:28:30,788 Speaker 11: to make sure that he protects that quarterback behind him. 673 00:28:32,348 --> 00:28:35,148 Speaker 9: I met Tyler Booker last night, and he's here with 674 00:28:35,628 --> 00:28:38,788 Speaker 9: ty Simpson, who's been one of your backup quarterbacks at Alabama. 675 00:28:38,788 --> 00:28:40,148 Speaker 4: He's been there for a few years now. 676 00:28:40,388 --> 00:28:42,988 Speaker 9: Not often that the offensive lineman, like the star guard 677 00:28:42,988 --> 00:28:45,348 Speaker 9: first round pick his best friends with the backup quarterback. 678 00:28:45,388 --> 00:28:47,508 Speaker 9: Can you just tell me about that relationship between the 679 00:28:47,508 --> 00:28:48,508 Speaker 9: two of those guys. 680 00:28:48,948 --> 00:28:51,268 Speaker 11: You know, I didn't know that until earlier in the 681 00:28:51,348 --> 00:28:54,988 Speaker 11: season this past year. And Book's one of the best 682 00:28:55,068 --> 00:28:57,988 Speaker 11: leaders I've ever been around, And you know, I just 683 00:28:58,348 --> 00:29:01,068 Speaker 11: could tell with just their relationship and the way he 684 00:29:01,188 --> 00:29:03,508 Speaker 11: hold guys accountable to different things. 685 00:29:03,788 --> 00:29:06,308 Speaker 8: He was elite that way. And I heard a conversation 686 00:29:06,428 --> 00:29:10,588 Speaker 8: he had with Tie that made me really. 687 00:29:10,428 --> 00:29:14,988 Speaker 11: Understand that, you know, these guys have a special connection that. 688 00:29:14,908 --> 00:29:17,388 Speaker 8: Goes beyond just you know, hanging out on teammates. 689 00:29:17,428 --> 00:29:20,028 Speaker 11: And so it didn't surprise me when, you know, he 690 00:29:20,068 --> 00:29:21,948 Speaker 11: asked Hie to come to the draft, and I'm super 691 00:29:21,948 --> 00:29:23,748 Speaker 11: excited that Ti gets to be there and experience it 692 00:29:23,868 --> 00:29:27,308 Speaker 11: not just with Book but also with Jalen and jahat. 693 00:29:29,268 --> 00:29:29,428 Speaker 7: Well. 694 00:29:29,428 --> 00:29:32,148 Speaker 1: That might not have surprised you, but something that surprised 695 00:29:32,268 --> 00:29:35,348 Speaker 1: every human being on earth. Last year at the draft, 696 00:29:35,468 --> 00:29:39,268 Speaker 1: Michael Pennix, junior at your quarterback at Washington gets drafted. 697 00:29:38,828 --> 00:29:41,388 Speaker 5: By Atlanta and all of us fell off our chairs. 698 00:29:41,588 --> 00:29:44,148 Speaker 1: No one saw it coming. What did you think about 699 00:29:44,148 --> 00:29:46,628 Speaker 1: that moment and what have you thought observing from Afar 700 00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:48,428 Speaker 1: about his first year in the league. 701 00:29:49,108 --> 00:29:52,468 Speaker 11: Yeah, I was super excited at that time. The more 702 00:29:52,468 --> 00:29:55,028 Speaker 11: and more as time went on the last week or so, 703 00:29:55,588 --> 00:29:58,068 Speaker 11: I felt like there was going to be it was 704 00:29:58,108 --> 00:30:00,028 Speaker 11: gonna be for sure a thing where he would be drafted, 705 00:30:00,068 --> 00:30:02,668 Speaker 11: probably in the top fifteen. Didn't know what team, but 706 00:30:02,668 --> 00:30:05,068 Speaker 11: I knew there was a lot of interest. And then 707 00:30:05,148 --> 00:30:07,068 Speaker 11: just I think it's just worked out really well for him, 708 00:30:07,108 --> 00:30:09,588 Speaker 11: getting a chance to sit back for a little bit 709 00:30:09,668 --> 00:30:13,308 Speaker 11: of time half perspective. You know, Mike's taking it all 710 00:30:13,348 --> 00:30:16,108 Speaker 11: in sort sort uh, you know, just be able to 711 00:30:16,108 --> 00:30:19,348 Speaker 11: sort through and see things from from a little bit 712 00:30:19,388 --> 00:30:21,668 Speaker 11: of a step back, and then you know, getting the 713 00:30:21,708 --> 00:30:22,668 Speaker 11: opportunity and. 714 00:30:22,588 --> 00:30:24,468 Speaker 8: Make the most of it, just like he's always done. 715 00:30:24,508 --> 00:30:27,348 Speaker 11: And so just you know, love the way and the 716 00:30:27,388 --> 00:30:30,188 Speaker 11: direction things continue to go for him. That the trend is, 717 00:30:30,628 --> 00:30:33,468 Speaker 11: you know, heading the right direction and looking forward to 718 00:30:33,508 --> 00:30:34,388 Speaker 11: great year next year. 719 00:30:36,268 --> 00:30:39,308 Speaker 2: Coach in all your years coaching before Alabama, but now 720 00:30:39,348 --> 00:30:42,348 Speaker 2: specifically at Alabama, you guys have so many players in 721 00:30:42,348 --> 00:30:42,868 Speaker 2: the NFL. 722 00:30:42,948 --> 00:30:44,468 Speaker 6: I mean the SEC in. 723 00:30:44,428 --> 00:30:47,948 Speaker 2: Alabama specifically riddled on NFL rosters. How do you go 724 00:30:48,068 --> 00:30:50,988 Speaker 2: about keeping in touch with players that you have these 725 00:30:51,028 --> 00:30:53,548 Speaker 2: relationships with but you're also trying to coach up your 726 00:30:53,588 --> 00:30:55,988 Speaker 2: own program? What's this like for you to launch these 727 00:30:55,988 --> 00:30:58,228 Speaker 2: guys into the NFL but you're there near and dear 728 00:30:58,268 --> 00:31:00,868 Speaker 2: to your heart, well, you know, and I'm. 729 00:31:00,788 --> 00:31:02,788 Speaker 11: Still working on that, especially the ones that have been 730 00:31:02,788 --> 00:31:04,788 Speaker 11: away from here for a while maybe don't get back 731 00:31:04,788 --> 00:31:07,788 Speaker 11: as often. So it's been you know, this group right 732 00:31:07,828 --> 00:31:10,868 Speaker 11: now that's that's heading out, obviously super tight with them 733 00:31:10,908 --> 00:31:13,148 Speaker 11: and we have a connection even. 734 00:31:12,908 --> 00:31:16,108 Speaker 8: A little bit of last year's group. It's been fun 735 00:31:16,228 --> 00:31:16,468 Speaker 8: kind of. 736 00:31:16,468 --> 00:31:18,588 Speaker 11: Following them and they come back a little bit more 737 00:31:18,588 --> 00:31:22,068 Speaker 11: because they're still closer to the program and they know 738 00:31:22,108 --> 00:31:25,228 Speaker 11: they're always invited. But yeah, to continue to branch out 739 00:31:25,428 --> 00:31:28,628 Speaker 11: to those guys that maybe have been away from Alabama 740 00:31:28,948 --> 00:31:32,508 Speaker 11: for multiple years, you know, that's still a work in progress. 741 00:31:32,548 --> 00:31:35,068 Speaker 11: But I think across the board, wherever you've been You're 742 00:31:35,068 --> 00:31:38,188 Speaker 11: just excited about the journey that these guys are on. 743 00:31:38,988 --> 00:31:42,428 Speaker 11: You know, the past schools, whether it's Washington and Fresno State, 744 00:31:42,788 --> 00:31:45,708 Speaker 11: guys all over the league. They're just living out their dream, 745 00:31:46,268 --> 00:31:48,428 Speaker 11: you know, doing what they do best. And you know, 746 00:31:49,188 --> 00:31:51,668 Speaker 11: whenever they need something, they know, they know they're just 747 00:31:51,708 --> 00:31:52,508 Speaker 11: a phone call away. 748 00:31:53,348 --> 00:31:55,828 Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you bringing us into the journey. That's 749 00:31:55,868 --> 00:31:58,308 Speaker 2: an absolute factory right there at Alabama. A ton of 750 00:31:58,348 --> 00:32:00,908 Speaker 2: guys coming out this weekend. Kalen Devor, the head coach, 751 00:32:00,948 --> 00:32:02,268 Speaker 2: thanks so much for coming on gimt B. 752 00:32:02,388 --> 00:32:04,388 Speaker 6: We appreciate you so much, too bad. 753 00:32:04,548 --> 00:32:05,508 Speaker 8: Thank you for real tiding. 754 00:32:09,828 --> 00:32:11,468 Speaker 3: Good morning football,