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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Ow's everybody doing here on a Tuesday. Chris Brown, see

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Speaker 2: you Tasker with you. One Bill's Live is your program

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Speaker 2: of choice. Thank you for making it. And if you're

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Speaker 2: in the South Towns, you've been busy with your shovel.

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Speaker 2: If you're in the North Towns, you're saying, what are

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Speaker 2: you guys griping about down there? Narry a flake?

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Speaker 1: I can mow my lawn today. Yeah, yeah, what a

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Speaker 1: differ I spent. So we lost our plow guy. He

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Speaker 1: went to work for somebody. He's like left, so I

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Speaker 1: had so I'm doing it myself for the first time

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Speaker 1: this year. I got a plow on my little thing

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Speaker 1: and I'm doing it. And uh, I'll admit it wasn't

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Speaker 1: as easy as I sometimes think it should be for

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Speaker 1: the plow guys out there, but I was. It took

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Speaker 1: me an hour last night and.

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Speaker 2: You got your sticks all lined up along, everything's marked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all money. I was doing it and I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if I could really get it done

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Speaker 1: on my own because I got a long driveway right right.

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Speaker 2: So at the.

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Speaker 1: Tasker Estate, the Kennedy Compound, Anyway, it took me an

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Speaker 1: hour last night because I had I felt like we're

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Speaker 1: getting snow, and I did it in the snow. By

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Speaker 1: the time I was done, I had three inches of

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Speaker 1: snow in the in the thing with me. I got

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Speaker 1: it was unbelieve. It was unbelieved. Then I got up

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Speaker 1: again to this morning and did it again. Uh, which

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Speaker 1: is yeah, I'm kind of getting the hang of it,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna take it a little trial. And there's

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Speaker 1: a learning curve, I'll admit it, there's a learning curve.

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Speaker 1: But it was bad last night, bro sleaf. Oh, it

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Speaker 1: was trying to get you. You live, you had I'm

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Speaker 1: in Lancaster. You got to get in north of line.

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Speaker 2: I left here at three thirty because the weather was

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Speaker 2: bad and I I was like, I gotta get started now.

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Speaker 2: Took me an hour and a half to get home.

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Speaker 2: I'm twenty four miles from here. Yeah, I got took

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Speaker 2: me an hour and a half.

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Speaker 1: I got out of here at five thirty or so

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Speaker 1: last night and no, no, like ten after five, five

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Speaker 1: twenty and I thought I called on you know, I

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Speaker 1: was on the speaker phone with the missus. I'm coming now,

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Speaker 1: but you know, and it was a forty minute drive

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Speaker 1: and it's usually a twelve minute drive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was the reason why was it

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Speaker 2: was bumper to bumper?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody was on the road at the same time.

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Speaker 2: I saw on my map on my screen in my

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Speaker 2: car that, you know, the whole nineteen and the Thruway

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Speaker 2: was all red. So I was like, all right, the

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Speaker 2: heck with that, I'll just take Southwestern to Transit and

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Speaker 2: get home that way. Oh my gosh, I mean it

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Speaker 2: was a parking lot. It was, I mean crawling. It

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Speaker 2: reminded me of New York City traffic, and I don't

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Speaker 2: like being reminded of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so people know, I mean they come down

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Speaker 1: to the games and stuff. It was like getting out

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Speaker 1: of the stadium was worse than any game day this year.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, you're talking yesterday, Yes, yesterday was worse than day

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Speaker 2: I would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I was bumper a bumper before I even got to California.

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Speaker 1: Before I got to it was bumper to bumper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every the progress was so miniscuit terror.

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Speaker 1: And then here's the thing too, everybody can relate to this.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting at the I don't mind sitting in a lot.

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Speaker 1: If it's a light light. But in a snowstorm. I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting behind like this little panel truck, so you can't

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Speaker 1: see anything. So why are you just sitting here? What's

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Speaker 1: going on? I mean, there's there's There isn't a.

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Speaker 2: What's in front of you?

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Speaker 1: Right? What isn't I can't see what's in front of

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Speaker 1: so I'm like kind of like.

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Speaker 2: Steve's got his head out the window like a dog.

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Speaker 1: I was so frustrating. So there you go. I tough night.

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Speaker 2: The funniest part was I pull into my driveway and

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Speaker 2: I've got like three four inches on the roof of

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Speaker 2: my car from us to be and heared it yesterday

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Speaker 2: driving back to my house.

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Speaker 1: That's what we got on the on the I got

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Speaker 2: My neighbors are putting their Christmas lights up in the

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Speaker 2: front lawn. They look at my car, they go, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, wait where are you coming from. I was

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Speaker 2: like the south Town's it's the end of days down there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was as bad as it wasn't

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Speaker 1: as bad as the weekend before Thanksgiving last year, where

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Speaker 1: we got like I got ninety inches at the house,

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Speaker 1: but we got sixteen seventeen inches. Yeah, not quite a

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Speaker 2: It's not nothing. Told me it's not nothing.

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Speaker 1: I was worried about being able to push it with

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Speaker 1: the little thing I got.

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Speaker 2: Right right, But it worked. You got a gator, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It worked. It worked good. I was

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Speaker 1: I was excited about it. I was not excited pleasantly surprised.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to overstate it. I mean it's like

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Speaker 1: one of those days is fun the first time. It was,

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Speaker 1: all right, it's fun the first time. This morning, eh

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Speaker 1: is a chore?

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Speaker 2: Not so much.

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Speaker 1: It is a chore.

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Speaker 2: So it is a Tuesday. It is the start of

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Speaker 2: the bye week for the Bills, and they could use

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Speaker 2: it with some of the nick dup players they have

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Speaker 2: on their roster, trying to get back, trying to get healthier,

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Speaker 2: and quite frankly, heading into what is week thirteen, some

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Speaker 2: guys could use a rest. I mean, let's just be

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Speaker 2: honest about that. The amount of snaps at Oliver's played

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Speaker 2: probably the last four or five weeks, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that guy could use a break. So, and there are others,

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Speaker 2: of course, but knowing that they typically go with the rotation,

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Speaker 2: Oliver's been playing more than that on average by a

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Speaker 2: considerable margin. And we know why production. Yeah, but there

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Speaker 2: are guys that you know this time of year, and

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Speaker 2: Steve can speak to this better than I can. Their

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Speaker 2: bodies are hanging a little bit. You get to a

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Speaker 2: week thirteen, week fourteen and just getting a few days

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Speaker 2: and then a weekend. Yeah, well you're not in fifteen

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Speaker 2: car recks.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It does a world of difference.

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Speaker 1: For three days off or two days off, two days off,

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Speaker 1: but three days off, I mean it feels like it

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Speaker 1: really feels like a two week vacation and plus not

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Speaker 1: having a game, and you come back to work next

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Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday. They might get Monday off and come

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs game in earnest, and it just feels like

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Speaker 1: you've been gone forever. It's just like, oh, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: unbelievable the difference it makes. You know, these guys are

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Speaker 1: so they shake stuff off faster. But after two and

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Speaker 1: a half months or three months, actually, it's yeah, it

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Speaker 1: feels so good to just be not beat on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like your body gets an extra four or five

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Speaker 2: days to recover from a normal it's a timeframe on

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Speaker 2: the turnaround.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you will say this too. You know, they've

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Speaker 1: had good success with McDermot coming out of the by

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Speaker 1: and we'll see. I mean, this is a mean they're

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Speaker 1: going back to Kansas City. I mean, it's like a

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Speaker 1: home game for everybody now, right, except for the crowd noise.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got to know that locker room like

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Speaker 1: the back of your hand. If you're the Bills, You've

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Speaker 1: been over there four times in a row.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, four of the last five years in the regular season, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and a couple of times in the playoffs watching the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's yeah, it'll be it'll be a comfort

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Speaker 1: level they have going in there. They've had success in

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Speaker 1: there at times. So yeah, well we'll see coming off

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Speaker 1: the BUI, let's let's go play.

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Speaker 2: And that brings us to our topic of discussion today.

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Speaker 2: For you at eight oh three oh five fifty one

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, what is

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Speaker 2: your level of optimism that the Bills are making the

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Speaker 2: playoffs and tell us why uh eight oh three oh

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty. Then I'm gonna get on board. I do

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Speaker 2: know that across the league, the Bills have the number

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Speaker 2: one strength of schedule over their last five games. There

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Speaker 2: are some teams that have six games to play because

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Speaker 2: they'll be playing this week and then the remaining five

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Speaker 2: weeks they've already had their bye. But for the Bills,

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Speaker 2: and they are five games remaining. It is the toughest

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Speaker 2: strength of schedule going forward here.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing too. After the game I saw the last

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Speaker 1: two games, you know, I guess it was the Jet

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Speaker 1: game and the Angles Eagles game. That strength of schedule

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Speaker 1: doesn't scare me like it did even with one loss.

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Speaker 1: It really doesn't. They're playing at a high level. They've

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Speaker 1: got great players. And I said this yesterday. I'll say

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Speaker 1: it again. They got the best quarterback in the league

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Speaker 1: this year. And you can you know they all go,

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Speaker 1: they're all like right here, Josh is playing better than

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Speaker 1: any quarterback in the league bar none. For the body

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Speaker 1: of work he's done this year. And I told you

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Speaker 1: yesterday he's never gonna make He's not gonna win an

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Speaker 1: MVP because of the one lost record and because of

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Speaker 1: the regular season nature of how it goes. Unless he

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Speaker 1: gets on a hot streaking, you know, but the strength

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Speaker 1: of the schedule doesn't scare me like maybe it should.

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Speaker 1: These guys are gonna go toe to toe with every

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Speaker 1: single team the rest of the way, and there's those

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Speaker 1: teams will probably want no part of this group because

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Speaker 1: they know most of them. Certainly the Chiefs and certainly

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys know how dangerous they are. So it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a fun run down the stretch. The only team

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Speaker 1: that's different in there is the Charger game, the middle one,

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Speaker 1: the last two Patriots, Dolphins. I mean, it's like you know,

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Speaker 1: playing your your step brother or somebody you know. You

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Speaker 1: know them so well, right, I mean, it's like you

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Speaker 1: share a bedroom with those jokers. So, but the one

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Speaker 1: game that's the kind of the wild card would be

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Speaker 1: the the La Charger game, okay, because they're unfamiliar right

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Speaker 1: to a certain even the Cowboys don't. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: see what we play those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't played the Charger since twenty twenty, I believe, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if I have that right. But let's go to the

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Speaker 2: phones at eight oh three zero five point fifty won

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five point fifty two five fifty that

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get on board We're gonna lead off today

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Speaker 2: with Bob and Hamburg. What do you got for his bop?

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Speaker 4: I'm tired. I listened to a lot of sports shows,

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Speaker 4: watch a lot of football in my life since nineteen

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Speaker 4: sixty five, a Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 5: Fans and news guy, you want to run mcdermock out

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Speaker 5: of the road? Are they stupid? I mean, come on,

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Speaker 5: we got the best coach in the NFL. He's got

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Speaker 5: a lot on his plate. Let him coach. He's doing

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Speaker 5: a great job. He's a defensive coordinator, head coach, special

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Speaker 5: teams coach. What else do you want the guy to do?

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Speaker 4: I'm tired. He's fans, so called fans. Okay, I don't

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Speaker 4: wear nothing of red, white and blue. Are so called fans.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to get rid of the best coach in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. That's all I got to say.

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Speaker 1: Guys, Thanks Bob, Well, Bob, you gotta I get it,

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Speaker 1: Now they've they've dropped some game. They're six and six.

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Speaker 1: They are what their record says they are. But I'm

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Speaker 1: more often than not, every issue that has faced this

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm with you. That's what I was going

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Speaker 2: it's easier said than done, number one, But number two,

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Speaker 2: that's that guy's job. Get he's he's all over at tenfold.

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Speaker 1: If you think there's some sort of boogeyman out there

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott making a decision on a defensive call. It's

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Steve in Orchard Park next. What do

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Speaker 3: Good Afternoon? Just a couple of comments echoing what the

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Speaker 3: almost like hatred about like they want McDermott fired. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't understand why people have can't get passed Frau.

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Speaker 3: It's not Sean mcgermott isn't responsible for dropping a touchdown

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Speaker 3: Is he perfect as a head coach? No, he does

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Speaker 3: some things that I think, you know, you could question

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Speaker 3: the players will tell you it's not. But yet all

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Speaker 3: we hear is Sean's got to go. He can't take

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Speaker 3: good job. You know, these are the same people who

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you guys can't say it. They really don't

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Speaker 2: That's all right, Steve, thanks.

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Speaker 1: For here's the thing. You got to remember it now.

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Speaker 2: Radio guys, your emotions run, they.

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Speaker 1: Run, they run hot. I mean, it's like it's like,

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Speaker 1: Fans do it. We do it. Callers do it. Other

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just too easy to do in today's

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Speaker 1: It was a Gabe or Josh who's miscommunicating there? And

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Speaker 1: It ain't on Josh and Gabe. I'm the coach getting

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Speaker 2: That's that selfless approach that has made this It's about organization.

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Speaker 1: It's not about me, It's not about you's not about this. Player,

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna I know you want to play, but

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Jack and

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Speaker 7: And I want the answer, Steve, would you love to

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Speaker 7: Because we've never had a head coach that played for

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Speaker 1: Well I'll say this, I'd I'd kind of like to

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Speaker 1: of mine. But they're in a they're in a good

432
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Speaker 1: spot right now. I know it's their six and six

433
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Speaker 1: and yeah, they've they've dropped six games by one score.

434
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Speaker 1: By it you know what, you could have stolen one

435
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Speaker 1: from from Denver with a twelve men on the field.

436
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean there's all of that

437
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Speaker 1: stuff going on. I don't know. I don't want to.

438
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Speaker 1: I'm not switching horses now for anybody, nobody. I wouldn't

439
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Speaker 1: switch horses from Marv. This is you know, this group

440
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Speaker 1: I think is really special. I think Sean Special, I

441
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Speaker 1: think Brandon Special, and certainly Josh Diggs, Vaughn, all those guys,

442
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Speaker 1: Ed Rousseau, Leonard Floyd, They got some guys. I love

443
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Speaker 1: where this team is at right now. Certainly it's not

444
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Speaker 1: gonna last for you know, a couple of months more

445
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to switch it up like they

446
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Speaker 1: have to do every year. But I like where they're

447
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Speaker 1: at right this minute. And I know that's crazy to

448
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Speaker 1: talk with six and six, but I'll take this. I'll

449
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Speaker 1: take this team down the stretch ahead of any of

450
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Speaker 1: the teams left on their schedule. You can say what

451
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Speaker 1: you want about Dallas, Brownie and I can talk about

452
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Speaker 1: that in a minute. People are picking the Dallas Cowboys

453
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Speaker 1: over the Bills right now. Let me just give you

454
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Speaker 1: something something here, And Brownie knows where exactly where I'm.

455
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Speaker 2: Going with this.

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Speaker 1: So the Dallas Cowboys are sitting there, they're eight and three,

457
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Speaker 1: and you're thinking, wow, they are really good. Let me

458
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Speaker 1: just tell you something. They beat the Giants twice, the Jets,

459
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Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Chargers, the Rams, Panthers, Commanders.

460
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Speaker 2: Isn't a single team give us that schedule.

461
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Speaker 1: Well, we're not going eight and three in that schedule.

462
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Speaker 1: We might go eleven to zero against that schedule. They

463
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Speaker 1: lost to the Cardinals. They lost the Cardinals, and then

464
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Speaker 1: they lost to the San Francisco forty nine Ers and Philly,

465
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Speaker 1: two really good teams.

466
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Speaker 2: And they got boat raced by sanfrd.

467
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Speaker 1: They got boat raced by San Francisco, and everybody's saying, wow,

468
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that. I don't think

469
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys you're gonna be able to go. Listen, they're

470
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Speaker 1: coming up here, let them come. I like this team

471
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Speaker 1: and this group. I believe in this coach, this GM

472
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Speaker 1: and certainly the ownership group who put them together. I

473
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Speaker 1: believe in the team, the players, the good ones, the

474
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Speaker 1: ones that are I'm telling you, I like them, and

475
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Speaker 1: I don't know that they're gonna get into the playoffs.

476
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Speaker 1: I really don't. But man oh, man, I can't argue

477
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Speaker 1: with any of the decisions that made getting this team

478
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Speaker 1: constructed the way it is, first of all, And you

479
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: can go back and listen. If you're gonna lose six games,

480
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Speaker 1: you can go back and double take a ton of decisions.

481
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Speaker 1: Way all, it's the way it is. But man o man,

482
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Speaker 1: I'm not switching for anything, whether it's my buddy or not.

483
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Speaker 2: And Jack, just to your point about one score games

484
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Speaker 2: and when they're closed, yeah, I'll give it to you.

485
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Speaker 2: He's two and six this year and the Bills are

486
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Speaker 2: two and six this year in one score games. Last

487
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: year they were seven and three. Now, the year before

488
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Speaker 2: that they were zero and six in one score games.

489
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Speaker 2: That's when the whole narrative started. But then they won

490
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Speaker 2: their last four and we're playing their best football in

491
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Speaker 2: the postseason. The year before that, twenty twenty one score games,

492
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Speaker 2: they were six and one. There is a vacillation that

493
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Speaker 2: goes back and forth because one score games are very

494
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Speaker 2: prevalent in the NFL. Over seventy five percent of the

495
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Speaker 2: games in this league are decided by eight points or less,

496
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Speaker 2: so there are gonna be one score games. And in

497
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Speaker 2: the Grand scheme of things, you're probably gonna win about

498
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Speaker 2: just as many as you lose. And guess what, And

499
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 2: guess what, after seven years of Sean McDermott coaching this

500
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Speaker 2: football team, you know what the team's record is in

501
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Speaker 2: one score games. It's twenty eight and twenty eight. You're

502
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Speaker 2: not gonna win all of them. The league is, we've

503
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Speaker 2: talked about all the time, the margins are narrow and

504
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 2: in close games it takes one play here, maybe one

505
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: play there too, determinate when it's tight like that. In

506
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Speaker 2: an ideal world, you're running off and leaving teams, and

507
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: the Bills have done that too. In the one score games,

508
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna win some, you're gonna lose some.

509
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, the uncomfortable truth about it is they're

510
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: in a spot now, we're at six and six with

511
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: five games to play. They got no wiggle room, really, right,

512
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean, we all feel it. They got to win

513
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: these games coming down the stretch until other teams trip up,

514
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: somebody gets injured and they start losing games. The Bill's

515
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: got to win all their games left right, And that's

516
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Speaker 1: an uncomfortable place for all of us to be. But

517
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Speaker 1: I'll say this I'll take this group. I'll take this group.

518
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Speaker 1: Let me go run. So I don't know that, and

519
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Bills fans are there. But

520
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable, no question about it. But I think I'm

521
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of ready to watch them go. I'll see

522
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Speaker 1: if they can do it. You know that the margin's

523
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Speaker 1: not there anymore, and we'll see if they can live

524
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Speaker 1: within that margin.

525
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Speaker 2: To Bill in Texas, next, what do you got Bill?

526
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Speaker 8: Hey, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call. My question is

527
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 8: on the play with Gabe Davis where he turned the

528
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 8: wrong way. Where is the hot route? Steve, you know

529
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 8: as well as I do. In high school, the first

530
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 8: thing that they teach you is when you zero Bliss

531
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Speaker 8: and they empty out that middle, that inside receiver's got

532
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 8: to go to the inside. He's got to three hour

533
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 8: pass right there. He probably walks in. And we learn

534
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 8: nothing from Kelsey when Kelsey did it to us, when

535
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 8: he tells mahme, hey, if they're going to play like this, man,

536
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 8: it's wide open right there, and we didn't learn anything

537
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 8: from it, nothing at all. And I just don't understand

538
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 8: where the hot route, how nobody ran anything. It just

539
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 8: doesn't make sense. To me, and then other thing that

540
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 8: don't make sense to me that people want to fire

541
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Speaker 8: the coach. You fire him to see how fast he

542
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 8: gets picked up by somebody else, and you see how

543
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 8: far you go down and how fast they come up.

544
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get you, And you're right. It depends

545
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: on the out called, no question about it. Gabe pops

546
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: wide open. You got to hit the pass to me,

547
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: and I get, I get what you're saying, Bill, you'd

548
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: like to see him just hit it, get the first down.

549
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Speaker 1: That's a crusher, missing it, missing it when your guy's

550
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: wide open, and just miss timing. And I and I

551
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: said this yesterday, that that was a timing round. And

552
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: I wish Josh would have held on to it for

553
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: like a half not even a half second longer, so

554
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: he could have got an idea where Gabe was going.

555
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: But the timing of that route and when it broke

556
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: inside or out, and when Josh let it go was

557
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: just at the moment when you needed to know, and

558
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: he let it go a little too early, or or

559
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: Gabe it took him too long to break the cushion

560
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 1: down on the guy he was working it on. And

561
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: when Gabe gets up there, the guy's inside of him.

562
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: Well, he's playing inside leverage to shut off the middle

563
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: of the field and because he has no safety help

564
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: there and he's.

565
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Speaker 1: Flat footed, which is why Gab ran right by him.

566
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: He's flat footed thinking Gabe is gonna bring it to

567
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: the inside. Gabe takes it deep and Josh is already

568
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: letting the letting the ball go. You know, it's a

569
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: mistouchdown and that's that is an absolute crusher and Josh

570
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: knew he had to get rid of it because the

571
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: pressure was coming all that stuff. Yeah, it's a frustrating play,

572
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: no question, Bill, You're right. And there were you know,

573
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: Digs had a quick out on the outside that the

574
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: outside corner jumped. So it was the Bills have.

575
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: I'm sometimes you just don't win out of play.

576
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: The Bills do have quick end routes to the to

577
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: the inside receiver on a zero blitz, they you know obviously,

578
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: so they just they had a better option on that

579
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: one than they did there than the Chiefs do with

580
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: Kelsey on the kind of crosser. You know, they had

581
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: a guy wide open. All they had to do was

582
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: throw the ball two tenths of a second later, and

583
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: they Yeah, it just didn't happen. So that's and I'll

584
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: say that that's that's where we're sitting this week. Nobody

585
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: is really upset that we're in this spot where we

586
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: got to win out to get in the tournament. And

587
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: we're so much better than the teams that have beaten us,

588
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, there's so much better. We're so much better

589
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: than the teams that are in the nine eight, seven,

590
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: six five spots. We're so much better than them. And

591
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: and yet here you sit. And that's that's the thing

592
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: that everybody's got, everybody's emotions running right at the surface.

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Speaker 2: What is your level of optimism that the Bills are

594
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Speaker 2: making the playoffs? So let us know at eight oh three,

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one, eight eight five fifty two, five

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Speaker 2: point fifty more of your phone calls. Next Here on

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Speaker 2: the phones where we're asking you, what's your level of

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00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: optimism the Bills are making the playoffs. We go to

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Speaker 2: Pete in Harrisburg, PA. I'm assuming next year, what do

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Speaker 2: you got for his pete.

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, how are you today? I have a couple

605
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Speaker 9: of points to make. I just would like to be

606
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 9: able to discuss them back and forth and not be

607
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 9: like hung up on My problem with this team is

608
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 9: not the results that makes any sense. My problem is

609
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Speaker 9: that our coach is a great coach. Please. I don't

610
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Speaker 9: know nothing about coaching, hiring, coaching, coaching football, but what

611
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 9: I do realize is that he has an issue in

612
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Speaker 9: the style of coach he is. Meaning he took over

613
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Speaker 9: the defensive coordinators of this year and at first I

614
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Speaker 9: was like, okay, great, you know, But at the same time,

615
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 9: it also shows me that he has a lack of

616
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Speaker 9: a trust in the people around him and be that

617
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 9: he has to have his hands on a lot of things,

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Speaker 9: and I don't think he is capable of doing that.

619
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Speaker 9: And evidence is what's in front of us right now. Gentlemen,

620
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Speaker 9: we should have lost of the giants. We're beating bad

621
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Speaker 9: teams barely. We handcoffed Josh for some reason. I don't

622
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 9: know why, and you could tell the guy's body language

623
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 9: was was not right. And people blame Dorsey, but Dorsey

624
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 9: is not the head coach, you know, Dorsey is an

625
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 9: employee of the Buffalo Bills who is under the CEO

626
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 9: who happens to be Sean McDermot, And I just believe

627
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Speaker 9: that his style is now becoming becoming to seep through

628
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Speaker 9: to his team. Guys. You know, the first thing I

629
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Speaker 9: had learned playing any sport is you got to have courage.

630
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 9: You play hurt blah blah blah. But you're not scared.

631
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Speaker 9: The coaches scared. It's been proven over and over. He

632
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 9: really doesn't like to let his players play sometimes. You know,

633
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Speaker 9: you've got a guy who, in my opinions, probably I

634
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 9: think you guys are a great top three quarterback in

635
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Speaker 9: the league.

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Speaker 10: Right, I mean you gentlemen agree with that, yeah, of course.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Now my question is this, after all that being said,

638
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 9: what are you doing, Benching Cook? What are you teaching

639
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 9: this kid to play? Scares make a mistake. He's gonna

640
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 9: have to worry about that every time he touches the ball.

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Speaker 9: That's a mistake, whether that's on his running back, coach

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Speaker 9: or him.

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Speaker 3: He's in charge.

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Speaker 9: Number two.

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Speaker 1: Wait, let me let's discuss this back and forth. Pete.

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Speaker 1: Let me address the as you.

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Speaker 9: Go right, absolutely, sir, go right ahead, all.

648
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Speaker 1: Right, James Cook got benched when he coughed up the

649
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Speaker 1: ball in.

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Speaker 2: The first play of the game he first play.

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Speaker 1: Against against Denver, and he came back in after being

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Speaker 1: benched and had his best game ever. To me, that's

653
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Speaker 1: pushing the right buttons. Okay, because and I'll say this too, Pete,

654
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Speaker 1: You're right, some guys fold up under those pressures. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's a head coach's responsibility and a position

656
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Speaker 1: coaches responsibility and a coordinator's responsibility to know the different

657
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Speaker 1: personality of his player and coach them in the way

658
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: that makes them, motivates them and empowers them the most.

659
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Speaker 1: And so when they do that, when they bench some

660
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Speaker 1: guys for mistakes and other guys they give more opportunities

661
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: to for mistakes, I think that's a nod to them

662
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Speaker 1: understanding what makes the guy tick.

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Speaker 9: And I agree with I can't agree with you more, Steve.

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Speaker 9: My problem with that mentality is you are taking out

665
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Speaker 9: an explosive playmaker and putting in another good player in Murray.

666
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Speaker 9: But dude, I don't play, I don't coach football, but

667
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 9: I know my reason that when he's in the huddle,

668
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Speaker 9: what's going to happen. He doesn't share me from a defender.

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Speaker 9: He's going to go find someone to hit either. He

670
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 9: doesn't make anybody miss. And I understand the mentality and

671
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Speaker 9: the psychology of benching someone to make them play better later,

672
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Speaker 9: but dude, you're giving up fourteenth plays of a good

673
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Speaker 9: player for a not so good player. And that's where

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Speaker 9: I'm a little upset. I don't have a problem with

675
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Speaker 9: the with the understanding, Okay, this guy plays better if

676
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Speaker 9: he's mad, blah blah blah. But at the same time,

677
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Speaker 9: you're doing an injustice to the rest of your team

678
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Speaker 9: by benching a player who makes a difference for a

679
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Speaker 9: guy who does not make the difference. That's my problem, right,

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Speaker 9: thank thank you for letting me finish another thing. Do

681
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Speaker 9: you think in any way, shape or form shapes I've

682
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 9: been hearing everyone say we have a Super Bowl roster,

683
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Speaker 9: we have a Super Bowl this, we have a Super

684
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Speaker 9: Bowl bet. And I'm gonna leave you with this, gentleman,

685
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Speaker 9: do you really believe that this team was in the

686
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Speaker 9: hands of a Bill Parcells, Mike Shanahan, or I'm even

687
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Speaker 9: gonna put in a Mike Tomlin in there. That will

688
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Speaker 9: be six and six. I don't think so. Guys, there's

689
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Speaker 9: no way one of those coaches with this roster, with

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Speaker 9: that talent of quarterbacks and everything that's happened to him

691
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Speaker 9: since he's been to Buffalo would be six and six.

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Speaker 9: We don't get good coaches, good teams, don't lose His

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Speaker 9: Giants excuse me to the Patriots, who are the worst

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Speaker 9: team that I've seen in a life. I don't know

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Speaker 9: how many we do not chee games with teams like

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Speaker 9: the Giants. We've blowed them off the water side.

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Speaker 3: Fourth quarter.

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Speaker 9: You gotta backup, freaking hand the ball off to a

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Speaker 9: fort string running back. That's all I got to say. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 9: thank you for listening, and have yourself wonderful day.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all right, Pete?

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Speaker 1: Thanks Pete. Well, I don't care if I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about two Hall of Fame coaches

704
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Speaker 2: and a coach who might be in the running for that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that McDermott's been a head coach at

706
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Speaker 2: nearly as long for us to pass judgment on what

707
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Speaker 2: level of head coach he is just yet. I mean,

708
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Speaker 2: those guys coach twenty thirty years in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with this is his first head

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Speaker 1: coaching job. I have no problem with Sean McDermott that

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Speaker 1: would say that. I don't never think he's ever going

712
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Speaker 1: to be able to win a Super Bowl. I am

713
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Speaker 1: nowhere near that ballpark. Tony Dungee was traded from the

714
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and want to Super Bowl the next

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Speaker 1: place he stopped.

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Speaker 2: Same thing with Andy Reid.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, same thing, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Mike.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is the guy who was up twenty eight

720
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Speaker 1: to three in the Super Bowl with Atlanta and lost.

721
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Speaker 1: And he has yet to win a super Bowl, although

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Speaker 1: his teams are very good, very talented, they've been in one.

723
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Speaker 1: You can go down, you can go up and down

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Speaker 1: the list that you mentioned and find all kinds of

725
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: parallels and all that. All all I say is this,

726
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Speaker 1: I just want Sean mcderham to be as good as

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Speaker 1: he can be. And I said this yesterday. Part of

728
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Speaker 1: the thing you want to do with these head coaches

729
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Speaker 1: is learn with them the hard lessons that we've all learned.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these losses this year, a couple of them,

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Speaker 1: a couple three or three of them. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: go a list, but their gut punches right the Jet

733
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Speaker 1: loss in the beginning of the year. I mean we

734
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Speaker 1: turned it, Josh turned it over like you know, right,

735
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Speaker 1: for four times. I mean right, so you got that.

736
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Speaker 1: Then you jump back on and you crush three teams

737
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Speaker 1: in a row. And so I'm I'm in the mindset

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Speaker 1: I just want Sean mc I want Sean McDermott. I

739
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: want the Bills to learn or get the benefits from

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Speaker 1: the hard lessons that Sean McDermott has taken us through

741
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: on this journey from two thousand and what was it,

742
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen ninetey, you know, all those lessons, a hard lessons,

743
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Speaker 1: all the you know, the one score, excruciating losses, the crazy,

744
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: quirky losses that this team has has suffered, and the

745
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: lessons you learn from it. I want the Bills to

746
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Speaker 1: get the benefit from the lessons that Sean McDermott and

747
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Speaker 1: this staff have learned from those you know, the win game,

748
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Speaker 1: you know. But this is also the same This is

749
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Speaker 1: also the same staff and the same group core group

750
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Speaker 1: that put together an absolutely perfect playoff game against the

751
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Speaker 1: division rival who was the champion of the division for

752
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: like six straight years. A perfect game, right, I And

753
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: they're not Bill Parcells, not Marv Levy. Not anybody can

754
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: tell you that they put together a game like the

755
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: Bills did against that team. So there's there's that end

756
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: of the spectrum as well, and you got to take

757
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: them all into account and that you should have, would

758
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: have could have won the you know, you should have

759
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: won this game, you should have won that game, or

760
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: or in the conversely, you say you had no business

761
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: beating the Giants, Well, okay, well if you're gonna do that,

762
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: then the Eagles had no business beating the Bills. Let's go.

763
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: You know, that's the same sword with the other edge.

764
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: So you can't go down that road. You gotta play

765
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: every game and you gotta take the the outcome. But

766
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm still saying, take the hard lessons that you're learning. Now,

767
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: know that this staff and this coach, this GM they're

768
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: all learning those lessons just like they're they're part of it.

769
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: They're they're in the midst of it. They see it.

770
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: Those hard lessons, those quirky losses, those losses that are

771
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Speaker 1: so gut punching that we give them names. They get it,

772
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Speaker 1: and they're learning lessons from those whatever lessons they can,

773
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Speaker 1: and they're moving on and they're going to try and

774
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: get better for it. So take heart in that I

775
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: know that's the case.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Joe and Williamsville next. What do you

777
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: got first?

778
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Speaker 6: Joe, Hey, Chris, and Steve. Thank you for taking my call.

779
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 6: And Steve, I just want to let you know right

780
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 6: off the bet you're talking to a deeply disturbed follower.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate you.

782
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Speaker 6: Okay. Two things I want to I get these updates

783
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 6: from the Bill's website, and I want to discuss that,

784
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 6: and then I want to answer your question about my

785
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 6: optimism for the rest of the season. But the update

786
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 6: I got from the Bills was Bills players comment on

787
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 6: the refereeing of the loss to Philly, and I went

788
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 6: down through the thing. There's an x or formerly known

789
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 6: I guess as a tweet from Warren Sharp, and I

790
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 6: says to myself, who's Warren Sharp? So I googled him

791
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 6: and it says Warren Sharp says he's the only analyst

792
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 6: in the betting space who works with NFL teams. Okay,

793
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 6: So I go to his tweet here and it says

794
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Speaker 6: the Eagles are four and oh with Sean Hackley as

795
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Speaker 6: the ref. Since Nick SERRANI was hired. I don't know

796
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Speaker 6: who Nick Serrani is.

797
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: You're the head coach of the head coach of.

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Speaker 6: The Eagles, Okay, all right now? And then in parentheses

799
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Speaker 6: it's got four oh ats as well, and I said, well,

800
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Speaker 6: what is ats? That's after the betting spread in sports

801
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 6: against the spread. Yes, So then it goes further down

802
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 6: and it comments on players, comments about the referees need

803
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 6: to be held for accountability, and according for Tim Graham,

804
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 6: he says a lot it doesn't seem like the referees

805
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 6: are being held accountable this year. He says players are

806
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 6: getting fined during the week for silly stuff, and he

807
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 6: says it doesn't seem like a whole lot of accountability

808
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 6: for the officials though. So that's that part on the

809
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Speaker 6: As far as my optimism on the rest of the season,

810
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Speaker 6: I'm very optimistic we're going to make the playoffs. I

811
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Speaker 6: watched the Kansas City Philadelphia game the week before, and

812
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 6: I thought Kansas City outplayed Philadelphia and they should have

813
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 6: won that game. And that's exactly how I felt watching

814
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 6: the game the Bills against Philadelphia. I don't know if

815
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 6: Philly's got to horse you up their butt or what,

816
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 6: but they and I think the way the Bills play,

817
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 6: we can beat any of these teams that we're going

818
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 6: to face, and I'm very optimistic. All right, thank you,

819
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 6: hang up and listen to your comments. Thanks guys.

820
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, Joe appreciate it. We're up against

821
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: the clock, so I had to jump off there. Uh yeah,

822
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: I mean, look, the refs are held accountable, just not

823
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Speaker 2: in the same way that players are in terms of fines.

824
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Speaker 2: As we discussed yesterday. They are graded by the officiating department.

825
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: They're also given reports from the teams that they officiate,

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Speaker 2: and they file grievances if they have issues with certain calls,

827
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Speaker 2: and those are reviewed by the officiating department as well.

828
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Speaker 2: And when it all comes out in the wash at

829
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Speaker 2: the end of the season, the refs that have the

830
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: best grades at the end of the regular season are

831
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Speaker 2: assigned to playoff crews, and those are the officials that

832
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: officiate the playoff game. The ones that are graded poorly

833
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: go home. They don't take part in the playoffs for

834
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Speaker 2: that very reason. Now, some people might not feel that's

835
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 2: punitive enough, and that maybe, but there are there are

836
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Speaker 2: officials that we know Steve, that have been demoted from

837
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Speaker 2: head referee to a back judge. Phil Luckett is a

838
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Speaker 2: perfect example. He couldn't even get a coin toss right

839
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Speaker 2: in a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: He asked for that too. He didn't like being a

841
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: head official and that incident with the bookin.

842
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 2: He went from a head coach to or a head

843
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 2: referee to a back judge.

844
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he says, this put me back in the back.

845
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Speaker 2: So there are there are punitive measures that are taken.

846
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: Do they rise to the level of what players have

847
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: to deal with sometimes when they're fine for their socks

848
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Speaker 2: not being worn the right way. No, but referees also

849
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Speaker 2: don't make the same money that players do, and for

850
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Speaker 2: some reason the league.

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Speaker 1: You can imagine that's the way they should have used

852
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: a lot in this. There's a lot in this question.

853
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: They do hold them as accountable as they can. They

854
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: do not. I don't to my knowledge, they don't find

855
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: these guys because you can imagine you don't want the

856
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: guy out there throwing a flag or not throwing a

857
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: flag based on how it's going to affect his pocketbook.

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00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: It's the same way on the other end that you

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00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: don't want him doing that, like with the gambling thing

860
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: and what you know, what Joe was alluding to, like, hey,

861
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: I don't know about you know this, and like somebody's

862
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna get caught with their hand in the cookies, Joe,

863
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: we had a caller in there yesterday. Somebody's gonna do that.

864
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, so you can imagine. The league holds these

865
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: guys as accountable as possible. They make out reports each

866
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: each individual official makes out a report after the game,

867
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: handwritten stuff, incidents, calls, all of that stuff, statistics, how

868
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: many of these? How many of those? All of that

869
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: stuff is written down, taken into account. They're held accountable

870
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: for it. The teams contact the league and they say,

871
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: I got a list of twenty five plays. I want

872
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: to clarification, you know, they say, I want a clarification,

873
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: meaning what are you looking at? So all of that happens,

874
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: but they do it behind the scenes and off, you know.

875
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: They don't do it in the media, which I think

876
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: is a better way to do it then having a

877
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: bunch of wahoo's like me and Brownie yelling about it,

878
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: even though we're gonna yell about it anyway.

879
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, break time for us. Maury phone calls when we

880
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: get back here on One Bill's Live, Stay tuned he's

881
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,920
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885
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Speaker 2: Right back to the phones. We go into Dave in

886
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 2: Niagara Falls. What do you got for us? Dave?

887
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 11: Yes, I got a couple of things. First, it seems

888
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 11: like Buffalo always has this opportunity and they shoot themselves

889
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 11: in the foot and take a major p to be

890
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 11: like a drive stopper, or they got the team stopped

891
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 11: and they take a penalty and the team gets to

892
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 11: keep the ball and they keep going down and then

893
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 11: they score on us. The other thing is we had

894
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 11: twenty seconds on the clock. Kansas City did it in thirteen.

895
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 11: I don't understand why. If you want to go and

896
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 11: be a winning team, you have to go get the points.

897
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 11: You can't sit and wait till the other team takes

898
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 11: away from you. And who's who on the team is

899
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 11: responsible to keep this team in more discipline where we

900
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 11: don't take them bad penalties and give the team a

901
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 11: chance to score on us. All right, I sit back

902
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 11: and work for your opinion, and thank you very much, guys,

903
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 11: and you have a wonderful holiday, all right.

904
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: Date, thanks today, have you two?

905
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

906
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: I would agree that most of the time when Buffalo

907
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: loses a close game, they often help the opposition in

908
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: beating them, and quite frankly, sometimes that's the only way

909
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: you can beat the Bills with them helping you, and

910
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: they've done it probably more often than they would like.

911
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: Mistakes are going to happen in games. It's very hard

912
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: to play a perfect game, very hard, but you don't want.

913
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: I think what's been different this year that both myself

914
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 2: and my broadcast partner Eric would have noticed is some

915
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: of the mistakes have compounded themselves and come in a series.

916
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: Perfect example, James Cook drops the pass that could have

917
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: gone for a walk in touchdown on the first series

918
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: Bills have to punt, if I remember right. They commit

919
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: two penalties on that drive defensively that lead to first

920
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: down that lead to a fresh set of downs and

921
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: conversions for the Eagles. I think one happened on a

922
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: third down and the other was on fourth and one

923
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: when Jordan Phillips jumped, and the drive continues and it

924
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: results in a touchdown. And so that's a fourteen point

925
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: swing right there, just because of a drop pass and

926
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: two penalties. So yeah, yeah, the mistakes do contribute to

927
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: the opponent's success, right number one. And if you do

928
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: it enough, it can get you beat. And more often

929
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: than not, when the Bills lose games, it's because of

930
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: that very thing, and it is troubling. I'm not going

931
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 2: to deny it for a second.

932
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, and as for who's responsible for it,

933
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the player who makes the mistake is

934
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 1: responsible for it. So are his guys at his position group,

935
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: and so is his position coach and his coordinator and

936
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Speaker 1: the head coach. I said this earlier. They're all in

937
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: this together. Everybody shares in the mistakes, everybody's mistakes, and

938
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: that's the way it works. You feel responsible for it,

939
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: You feel for the guy who did it. You wish

940
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: you could help him, you don't, you know, it's that

941
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: kind of atmosphere. So they all take responsibility for the

942
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: mistakes that keep him from getting beat, because everybody also

943
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: contributes when you win. But you're right, it was a

944
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: frustrating team because every single loss seems like they do

945
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: it to themselves. And that's why you get this narrative

946
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: that something must be wrong somewhere, and actually it's just

947
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: might might be that they're really, really good and and

948
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: they've had they've had a string of luck. Like you said,

949
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: they're behind the norm this season for going fifty to

950
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: fifty and one score games.

951
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: Now they're two and six.

952
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see.

953
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here when we come back.

954
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:33,479
Speaker 2: ESPN NFL analyst and former NFL quarterback dan Orlovsky making

955
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: his weekly appearance here, we'll get his thoughts on the

956
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: rejuvenated Bill's offense and what he thinks of the schedule

957
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: ahead after the bye week. Next on One Bill's Live

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961
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,839
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962
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Speaker 2: your group event today at five hundred Pearl Buffalo dot Com. Well, Dan,

967
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 2: it was an entertaining game on Sunday and a driving

968
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: rainstorm back and forth it went. Fans, obviously in Buffalo,

969
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 2: are not very happy with how things turned out. As

970
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: the team heads to the by at six and six.

971
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: I do have to say from the jump I was

972
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 2: I was scratching my head about the Eagles offensive game plan,

973
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: which was more passing oriented than anything else, and the

974
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,959
Speaker 2: Bills were not super impressive against the run coming into

975
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: this game. I was just very surprised they chose to

976
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: go to the air, not only because of the weather,

977
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Speaker 2: but because of the team they were facing.

978
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 12: What about you, Yeah, I think one, that's Nick Sirianni's DNA.

979
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 10: Ever since he's gotten to Philly. It really is throw.

980
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 12: To score, run to win. Like they are a very

981
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 12: aggressive football team. They try to jump on you one

982
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 12: because the strengths of their football team are their ability

983
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 12: to run the football and their ability to rush the passer,

984
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 12: you know, and so you get the lead, and that's

985
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,959
Speaker 12: obviously the blueprints. So that's Nick's DNA. Two, if we're

986
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 12: just being plaint blank honest, if you look at who

987
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 12: Buffalo is and the strength of their football team.

988
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 10: It's it's Ed.

989
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 12: When Ed is on his game, he's as good as

990
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 12: anybody in the game right now.

991
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 10: At defensive tackle, it feels like certainly top three.

992
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 12: So and then where they weakest, it's because of some

993
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 12: of the injuries the back end, and so you sit

994
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 12: there and go, well, we like to throw the ball,

995
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 12: and this is where they're weak and vulnerable. So you know,

996
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 12: I wasn't totally surprised by that. And obviously some really

997
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 12: good second half adjustments. Halftime adjustments by Philadelphia on both

998
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 12: sides of the ball are the difference of the game.

999
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 12: It's been the difference of the last month or so

1000
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 12: for them, So credit them and their coaching staff are

1001
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 12: kind of getting that.

1002
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 10: Done, but not shocked with how they started it.

1003
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: Are there any generalities that you can point to about

1004
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: how the Bills offense has changed under Joe Brady rather

1005
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: than under Ken Dorsey? What because they certainly look more efficient,

1006
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: they look they ran the ball really well against the

1007
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: number one run defense in the league this last week.

1008
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, just other I.

1009
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: Mean, certainly you can go down and get specifics x's

1010
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: and o's, but what about general speaking, what's different?

1011
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 12: Balance philosophical balance, I would say, is the understanding of

1012
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 12: how you know plays have are there's a butterfly effect

1013
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 12: at the plays, there is an attachment to them, and

1014
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 12: and how first quarter stuff impacts third and fourth quarter stuff.

1015
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 12: When it comes to how defenses are going to play

1016
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 12: certain formations, can you wear things out? Can you make

1017
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 12: things easier on your offensive line? I think, you know,

1018
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 12: the two weeks with Joe like my overall like probably

1019
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 12: my number one thing is he's made life on the

1020
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 12: offensive line easier. We always attach it to what's he

1021
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 12: done for Josh. The offensive line's job has been easier

1022
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 12: just because he's allowed them to play with a little

1023
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 12: bit more forward lean than backpedaling. You know, he's he's

1024
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 12: allowed he's committed to running the ball just a little

1025
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 12: bit more. And he's not only just committed to running it,

1026
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 12: he's been tactical in how he ran it so they

1027
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 12: could have success doing so. And then in doing that,

1028
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 12: he's made their job easier when it comes to pass

1029
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 12: protection because you know the defense, the line isn't sitting

1030
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 12: there go okay, here comes past like it does often

1031
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 12: and or Josh is gonna be in the same spot,

1032
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 12: So I do think just the overall philosophical balance is

1033
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 12: the biggest deal when it comes to how they can

1034
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 12: play and throughout the course of four quarters.

1035
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: Bills fans are frustrated with, you know, Buffalo's record, particularly

1036
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: in one score games. They're two and six this year

1037
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: in those scenarios. I will say last year they were

1038
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: seven and three in those situations. Is there anything that

1039
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 2: stands out to you in these one score games that

1040
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 2: the Bills find themselves in at the end that for

1041
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: some reason or another they can't get into the garage?

1042
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1043
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know if there's a singular thing.

1044
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 12: I do think Marky has brought this up on NFL

1045
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 12: Live a week or two ago. You know, because of

1046
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 12: the injuries, the margin of error is slimmer. You know,

1047
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 12: those those injuries, you feel them on a a singular

1048
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 12: or momentary basis. But you know, is there a play

1049
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 12: where you know, a Milano knocks a ball down or

1050
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 12: makes a stop on third down, or a Tradavius, you know,

1051
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 12: knocks a ball down or gets a PBu that stops

1052
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 12: the drive in the second quarter that the team doesn't

1053
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 12: get three points on or you know, doesn't get another

1054
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 12: thirty yards of offense and the field isn't flips, so

1055
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 12: there's adult there's that kind of you know, there's so

1056
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 12: many instances where they're they had room for error, margin

1057
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 12: for eric because they were such a talented team, and

1058
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 12: I do think some of the injuries have.

1059
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 10: Minimized that margin for area or or there.

1060
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 12: You know, the Hey, we can have sixty four great

1061
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 12: plays and six that aren't so good, and we've covered

1062
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 12: up for it because the sixty four were so great.

1063
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 10: So I think that's probably it.

1064
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 12: Sometimes, you know, losing one score games just is a

1065
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 12: is a yearly thing. You know, it's look at Minnesota

1066
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 12: two years ago. They lost every one score game. Last

1067
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 12: year they won everyone score game. What kind of team

1068
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 12: are they? So usually the in between. So I just

1069
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 12: think the margin for error is definitely lesser in Buffalo

1070
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 12: because of some of those injuries and then so so

1071
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 12: like one turnover last year might have not been the

1072
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 12: difference of a game, this year, it is in many

1073
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 12: ways because that margin for error is less.

1074
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: One of the things that the Bills drew criticism from,

1075
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: particularly the head coach, Sean McDermott, was like coaching, you know,

1076
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: not to lose, coaching scared they point to the twenty

1077
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: seconds at the end of the game where you had

1078
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: a time out and Josh Allen and maybe, you know,

1079
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: you try a couple of shots and give yourself a

1080
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: chance to get into field goal range. What's your sense

1081
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: of coaching decisions laid in these games and about you know,

1082
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: the narrative that maybe McDermott isn't fit for these close

1083
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: games at the end.

1084
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think, listen, he's he's obviously his track record

1085
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 12: speaks for itself when it comes to the ability to coach.

1086
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 12: I mean, he's a darn good coach and he's had

1087
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 12: a ton of success. I think, just specifically Steve talking

1088
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 12: to that situation. Really two situations stand out.

1089
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 10: For me in the game coaching wise. The twenty seconds.

1090
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 12: I was watching the game with my wife because my

1091
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 12: wife was actually my wife's a Philly girl, so she

1092
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 12: was pissed at me all game because I wanted Buffalo

1093
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 12: to win because obviously I'm a fan of Josh and

1094
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 12: the team and when they're good, you know, life is

1095
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 12: good in the NFL. When they got the ball, when Philly,

1096
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 12: you know, made that kick or whatever to tie it,

1097
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 12: I told her, I was like, trust me, this is.

1098
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 10: Not over just yet. They need one play and that

1099
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 10: kid can make it.

1100
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 12: And so I was very surprised because if you think

1101
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 12: about it like this, if you drop back and you

1102
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 12: are overly aggressive and you take a shot, whether it's

1103
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 12: you're trying to hit a twenty yard in thirty yard in,

1104
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 12: you're trying to hit a go ball, that might take

1105
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 12: eight or nine seconds. Let's say it's incomplete, and let's

1106
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 12: call it again, like, let's are is there a potential

1107
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 12: bad that can happen? Of course, of course, but we

1108
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 12: can't live in that world. You you had every right

1109
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 12: to win that game.

1110
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 10: If you don't hit it, we call it again. We

1111
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 10: still have our time out.

1112
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: We hit it.

1113
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 12: Now it becomes a conversation, Okay, you pop your time

1114
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 12: out more than likely out of bounds, and it's like,

1115
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 12: are we in field goal range?

1116
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 10: Do we have hail mary opportunity?

1117
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 12: Do we need six more yards because it's so we

1118
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 12: can get six more yards type of thing. So I

1119
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 12: do think that was a missed opportunity. But Steve bigger

1120
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 12: for me, man, is that final drive that led into overtime.

1121
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 12: And I talked about this a lot yesterday. The ball

1122
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 12: was on the left hash on.

1123
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 10: First down, Philadelphia went five straight completions into the boundary.

1124
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 12: You know this, like five straight completions into the boundary.

1125
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 12: Never once did Buffalo scheme wise take the boundary away

1126
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 12: and force the ball to go to the field, force

1127
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 12: the harder throw, force the longer throw, force more time

1128
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 12: to potentially get off the clock, because guys aren't close

1129
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 12: enough to the sidelines.

1130
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 10: So that, for me was the one.

1131
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 12: Situation in that game that I sat there and said, offensively,

1132
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 12: when we start a two minute drill, we've got a

1133
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 12: couple of things that are like our objectives are goals,

1134
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 12: and it's like one is get the easiest and shortest completion.

1135
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 12: Two get out of bounds. I felt like Buffalo gifted

1136
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 12: that stuff to Philadelphia. That would probably be my biggest

1137
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 12: gripe when it comes to that management of the game.

1138
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: Let's spin it forward and look post by here. As

1139
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: you probably already know, the Bills have the toughest remaining

1140
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: strength of schedule. It starts in Kansas City with the Chiefs.

1141
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: The Bills are six and zero after the bye under

1142
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott. For whatever that's worth. This is the first time, however,

1143
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: they are post by on the road, and they're in

1144
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: a pretty tough spot. They've won there before in the

1145
01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: regular season, we know that. But looking at the next

1146
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: couple in particular, just your thoughts on what lies ahead

1147
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: for this team. The way it's playing as of right now.

1148
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 12: You gotta get one of the next two. You get

1149
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 12: one of the next two. Week eighteen is gonna be

1150
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 12: for a chance to get to the playoffs. I said

1151
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 12: this yesterday.

1152
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 10: No one's gonna want Josh in either.

1153
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 12: So one of the next two Kansas City or Dallas. Okay,

1154
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 12: so Kansas City. I think that this defense in Buffalo,

1155
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 12: with the way that they've played in spurts, even with

1156
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 12: some of the injuries, can keep them in that football game. Okay,

1157
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 12: that game is going to come down to. The Kansas

1158
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 12: City game will come down to one thing, how well

1159
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 12: Josh executes versus all the different pressures that Steve Spagnola

1160
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:43,959
Speaker 12: is going to bring.

1161
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 10: And that's kind of been his DNA. But he's awesome

1162
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 10: at it. Like he's awesome at it.

1163
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 12: And they kept Philadelphia's offense and checked for a great

1164
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 12: majority of that game. And so how willing and ready

1165
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 12: he's going to be for some of those situations. Uh,

1166
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 12: and then for the Dallas game. You know, the Dallas

1167
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 12: game will be about first down. Like, if you're not

1168
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 12: good on first down against Dallas defense, I don't care

1169
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 12: who you are, they're gonna throw those they'll bum rush you.

1170
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 12: Because eleven is just Michael Parsons is just a game wrecker.

1171
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,439
Speaker 12: But if they can find a way to get one

1172
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 12: of the next two. I said this to our group today,

1173
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 12: Week eighteen will be for a playoff spot.

1174
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 10: I firmly believe. Now it's like college football. You might

1175
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 10: need a little help.

1176
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 12: Here or there, Indy or Houston or you know, Cleveland

1177
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 12: falling off potentially Cincinnati, but they got to find a

1178
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 12: way to get one of the next two. Real quick, guys,

1179
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 12: I just want to put this into context because I've

1180
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 12: you know, I've part of me feels like like personal

1181
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 12: about not personal, but I've heard I've seen a lot

1182
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 12: of stuff like get said about Josh you know and this,

1183
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 12: you know whatnot And I got dear friends that have

1184
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 12: their opinions on Josh. Just to put into context, I

1185
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 12: got this this number the other day about Josh's performance

1186
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 12: on Sunday, so everyone can kind of get into the

1187
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 12: context of it. So Josh on third downs on Sunday

1188
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 12: was twelve and nineteen on third and medium plus, so

1189
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 12: third and six yards or plus, they were twelve of nineteen.

1190
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 10: He was twelve and nineteen. That's the best of quarterbacks

1191
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 10: been in over twenty years.

1192
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1193
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and six of those were third and seven or more.

1194
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah they were.

1195
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1196
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable on third down. And I think one

1197
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: of the things, and one of the things that fans

1198
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo have noticed, is his willingness to just

1199
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: pull it down and get the first down with his legs,

1200
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: slide for it. You'll see him at the end of

1201
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: this game, and I noticed it. It was a rainy,

1202
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: muddy day. He didn't finish, he finished, and he was

1203
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: covered from head to toe in grass stains. And the

1204
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: guy was the guy. That's the way he plays. And

1205
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: I made this statement as well. I mean, you watch

1206
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: all these I do know just Jalen hurts great. He's

1207
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: a great player, and he's got that it factory. He

1208
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: elevates guys, you know, and Mahomes and the Chiefs are

1209
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: kind of struggling to get it back on track this year,

1210
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: but still playing extremely good. Don't look like the old Chiefs,

1211
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: but they still are winning games, and Mahomes is the

1212
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: same way justin Herbert, Trevor, Lawrence, Dak Prescott. Go down

1213
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: the lists. I said this yesterday, none of them. Nobody

1214
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 1: is playing any position in the league better than Josh.

1215
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: Allen's playing his spot this year. And then I know

1216
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: they're six and six, but this guy has played at

1217
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: a level. And you can look at the turnovers too,

1218
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: if you slice the turnovers up, Josh is leading the

1219
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: league in touchdowns. Mahomes has got a bunch of touch turnovers,

1220
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: Dak's got a bunch of turnovers. These guys are all

1221
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: turning it over because they got to. They got to

1222
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: put the ball at risk. It's the way the league is. Yeah,

1223
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: Josh is not gonna win the MVP because of where

1224
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: the Bills are right at this moment. You know they're

1225
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: six and six, and you just don't give the MVP

1226
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: to a quarterback of a six and six club. But

1227
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: nobody is playing any better than this guy's playing right now.

1228
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, I agree, I agree, Steve, I agree, and I

1229
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 12: and in the conversation I did this about the interception

1230
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,959
Speaker 12: since a couple of weeks ago and saying like, hey,

1231
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 12: sometimes you just have four or five or six.

1232
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 10: In a year that just don't go your way.

1233
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 12: You know, ball gets tipped at the line of scrimmage

1234
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 12: or goes through hands, or defender gets a pinky on it,

1235
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 12: and you know, all of a sudden, everyone so you

1236
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 12: know this this guy's a turnover machine or whatnot.

1237
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 10: I just we have to we have to be honest.

1238
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 12: About kind of what he is doing and how he

1239
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 12: is doing it. And you know what, Steve, like, I

1240
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 12: honestly believe this, he wins on Sunday if they don't,

1241
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 12: If Jake Elliott doesn't hit an unbelievable kicker, Jalen Hurts

1242
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 12: doesn't become you know, you know, the terminator for the

1243
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 12: last two drives, I honestly believe he would be very

1244
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 12: much so at the top of MVP lists.

1245
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 10: So now that's in the past.

1246
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 12: They lost, obviously, But I told you guys a couple

1247
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 12: of minutes ago, like, hey, they gotta find a way

1248
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 12: to win one of the next two. If they get

1249
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 12: that performance in one of their next two, they'll win

1250
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 12: one of them.

1251
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1252
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: Why do you I mean, Dan, You're you're kind of

1253
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: a part of, you know, the national landscape on this league.

1254
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: Why do you think that narrative is so pervasive on Josh.

1255
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: Is it because he's on national television a lot and

1256
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: he's had some stinkers? Why is it so pervasive? Because,

1257
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: as you said, I mean, there are other quarterbacks who

1258
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,959
Speaker 2: are pretty pretty close in terms of total turnovers to Josh.

1259
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: Josh still leaves the league. We know that he's led

1260
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: the league since he's been in the league. We understand

1261
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: all that, but nobody seems to get the same kind

1262
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: of pervasive criticism that he does. Why do you think

1263
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: that is on a national level?

1264
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, cause it's twenty five years ago. Like so twenty

1265
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 12: years ago. Twenty five years ago, not twenty five twenty

1266
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 12: years ago. The only quarterback that was good in the

1267
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 12: NFL is Tom Brady. Everyone else sucked or everyone else

1268
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 12: was hated on, or everyone else was netpicked. Right now,

1269
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 12: it's Patrick. Patrick's the only good quarterback in the NFL,

1270
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 12: and everybody else sucks in some capacity. I honestly, guys,

1271
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 12: I've been victim of this.

1272
01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 10: I've done this.

1273
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 12: I've been kind of like overly critical of other quarterbacks.

1274
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 12: Dak Prescott is one of them where I've been like, well,

1275
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 12: you know, so, I if it's It's almost like, if

1276
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 12: you're not Patrick Mahomes, you're not You're not good, and

1277
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 12: people just wait for the moment when you have a

1278
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 12: slip up, which is going to happen because that's happened

1279
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 12: in sports, and the other teams get paid.

1280
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 10: So I do.

1281
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 12: I don't know if it's just Josh though, guys, I

1282
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 12: don't like. I hear tons of hate that Jalen Hurts sucks,

1283
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 12: and you know, Lamar Jackson sucks, and Josh Allen sucks,

1284
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 12: and oh Joe Burrow is a product of the people

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Speaker 12: around him. These guys are unbelievable players. I mean, they're

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Speaker 12: un Dak Prescott Secksdak's probably awesome this year. So I

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Speaker 12: think it's just a little bit of the kind of

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Speaker 12: the narrative culture, Josh maybe being you know, the the

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Speaker 12: the guy that's kind of been all over TV, I

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Speaker 12: guess over the last year and and Madden cover and

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Speaker 12: all that. It's it's he's a very easy target as well.

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Speaker 2: Dan, thanks as always. Uh, we'll catch up with you

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Speaker 2: after the bye week, sir, Thanks for the time you well.

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Speaker 10: Guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Dan Orlovsky as he joins us every

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01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: Tuesday here on one Bills Live breaking it down for us,

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Speaker 2: and it was good to get his thoughts on the

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Speaker 2: performance in that game. Yeah, some interesting thoughts on the

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Speaker 2: final two drives by the Eagles as well, just in

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01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: terms of you know, how the Bills lined up defensively

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Speaker 2: against them. But let's get back to the phones as

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01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: we are seeking your input on your level of optimism

1303
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 2: that the Bills are making the playoffs. And to a

1304
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 2: guy who's been waiting patiently to Dave in Florida, here,

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01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 2: what do you got for his?

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Speaker 6: Dave?

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Speaker 14: Hi, don't guys love the show? Religious listener, I head

1308
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 14: to take a forty eight hour role here or in

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01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 14: any comments, Buddy, I'm in Florida. I'm in him and

1310
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 14: Finn's country taking the abuse about us. There time to shine,

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01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 14: including my son and last rutal. But here here I am,

1312
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 14: and I'm telling you what you know. Like Berman says,

1313
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 14: nobody circles away who's like the Bills. And I'm optimistic

1314
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 14: that they can run the table. That offensive line is

1315
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 14: best offensive line we've had. And I don't know how

1316
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 14: long you look at the play calls by the d

1317
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 14: it's not that the play calls are off. I mean

1318
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 14: he had of twenty seconds. I hit that fell on

1319
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 14: the floor when he did that. But there were guys

1320
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 14: in position to make plays. I mean, for God's sakes,

1321
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 14: the touchdown at the end, there there was two guys on.

1322
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 14: I mean, are two of our best, but I know

1323
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 14: they're past their prime, but they were there. And you

1324
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 14: know the plays that have been called the guys are there.

1325
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 14: You know they're dropping it, they're missing it, read whatever.

1326
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 14: But you can't clean it on a coach. But anyway,

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Speaker 14: I love McDermott fro where he brought us from him two.

1328
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 14: But there's a thing that I think is the issue,

1329
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 14: and it's the mindset. I mean, Steve, when you were playing,

1330
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 14: you guys were in your you guys were really killing

1331
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 14: it in the nineties. I had season tickets and we'd

1332
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 14: be sitting in the stands and you guys are go

1333
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 14: down twenty one and be look atach other go out.

1334
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 14: They're just warming up. You know they got this, you know,

1335
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 14: and you just believed. When that last drive came up

1336
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 14: where they scored and beat us Philadelphia, you can almost

1337
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 14: feel it through the TV. It was like, oh my god,

1338
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 14: here we go again, and you know, be in a

1339
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 14: chanceampions and I ain't said as much as anything else,

1340
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 14: you know why. It just is I watched my kids

1341
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 14: won state championships, and I'm telling you they believed. And

1342
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Speaker 14: there's other teams that at that moment when it was

1343
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 14: darkest or it was toughest, the other team didn't. And

1344
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 14: I don't know, man, that's like, but I'm hanging and

1345
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 14: I'm thinking we're going to get to the playoffs. And

1346
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 14: like you said, Steve, nobody wants to.

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01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 13: Play us nobody.

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01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Dave. You're right there is that.

1349
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: You know, there's all these people out there that that

1350
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: think that there's some you know, dark specter that hangs

1351
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: over Buffalo Sports. And for some reason, I never the

1352
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: sun never shines on Buffalo, you know, and late in

1353
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: the season, and I don't really subscribe to that. And

1354
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 1: I know this too. I've I've said a gazillion times

1355
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: over the thirty five years since I was a good player.

1356
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks that you got to And there is a

1357
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 1: lot too, this mindset thing that you're talking about. I

1358
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: think everybody thinks you got to do something something special

1359
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: to win these games, this this game, like the Philly game,

1360
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: like these regular season games, even the Super Bowl, the

1361
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: ones that I was in. You get you fool yourself

1362
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: into thinking, man, I gotta do I gotta be really

1363
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: extra special today and really exactly excuse me, the exact

1364
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: opposite is true. All you gotta do is be you.

1365
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: And that's why you hear this stuff about being the

1366
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: best version of yourself. That's it. You don't have to

1367
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: do anything special. These guys are special enough to win

1368
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: and you get into these moments when you'll see it too,

1369
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: and you can tell you can pick guys out of

1370
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: every team like Digs is this way for the Bills.

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01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: That guy loves that moment. He loves when everything is

1372
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: on the line and the pressure couldn't be at its

1373
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: most as it's most intense. It's just absolutely going crazy.

1374
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: You gotta have it. I mean, oh my gosh. And

1375
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: he says, give me the ball, throw it to me.

1376
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: That's rare for a guy to be wired like that.

1377
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: You look at the Minneapolis miracle. It's an impossible and

1378
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 1: he not only catches it in the middle of two guys.

1379
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 1: Even he comes down and goes that kind of player

1380
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 1: is special. But he didn't feel like he has to

1381
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 1: be special. He just wants the moment. That's the mindset

1382
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 1: you're talking about. And maybe maybe there aren't aren't enough

1383
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: guys at the Bills. You know, certainly there are guys

1384
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: on the Vaughan's been there, He's been that guy. Diggs

1385
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: has been that guy. Josh is certainly that guy, you know.

1386
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: So you got guys like that smattered throughout your roster.

1387
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver seems to be that guy this year, So

1388
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: that I think there's a lot in that mindset thing.

1389
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 1: And you got to be in a position where you've

1390
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: got to tell yourself, you know what, I'm good, Let's go,

1391
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: give me a chance to win this thing right here,

1392
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: Let's go. And sometimes that's a more rare characteristic than

1393
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 1: physical attributes and talent.

1394
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to take a break here. When we return,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be joined by ESPN, NFL insider and Fantasy

1396
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: football expert Field Yates for an early edition of the

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: Ultimate Fantasy Lineup presented by FanDuel for Week thirteen. That's

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01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 2: coming your way next here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 2: by Colut of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right

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01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: back here on One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 2: with you and time for the Ultimate Fantasy Lineup with

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01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 2: none other than ESPNNFL Insider Fantasy football expert Field e

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01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,040
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01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: Download the app today and make every moment more field

1405
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 2: Hope you had a good holiday weekend, but we're back

1406
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 2: at it here in Week thirteen. Even though it's a

1407
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 2: BUYE for the Bills.

1408
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 15: It is a buye for the Bills, but it's not

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 15: a buye for us here to do our ultimate fantasy

1410
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 15: line pretended by Fanduels. So I appreciate you guys being flexible.

1411
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 15: I know that you guys have a quiet week at

1412
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 15: the end of the week, so you guys deserve that richly.

1413
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 15: I don't know if I like the Week thirteen by

1414
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 15: feels a little bit too late for.

1415
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 10: Me, But we don't make the schedule.

1416
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 15: We just follow it and we're gonna keep on keeping

1417
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:10,799
Speaker 15: on for the rest of this season.

1418
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's well, the Bills kind of need a

1419
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: little bit of a break right here before they take

1420
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: the big plunge in the last five weeks of the season.

1421
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. But you're right, the fantasy

1422
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: lineup kind of continues to roll. Let's see where we

1423
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: get started. Sam Howe for Washington against Miami.

1424
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 15: Interesting pick, yeah, yeah, you know, and he's been really

1425
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 15: really good this year as a guy that was not

1426
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 15: necessarily talked about a lot in season long fantasy drafts.

1427
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 15: But Sam Howe actually leads the NFL in passing yards,

1428
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 15: it leads the NFL in passing attempts. They throw the

1429
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 15: ball forty plus times per game, basically every single week.

1430
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 15: He's done so in an amazing six straight games, and

1431
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 15: that's in large part because their defense is so bad. Well,

1432
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 15: they're playing the Miami Dolphins, one of the best offenses

1433
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 15: in the NFL.

1434
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 10: You figure Sam Howe will be.

1435
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 15: Throwing get a ton against Miami, and it might be

1436
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 15: in garbage time as well. But samhow fits the bill

1437
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 15: at quarterback in Week thirteen, which we can take right

1438
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 15: to running back gentlemen, and we go to Jalen Warren

1439
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 15: of the Pittsburgh Steelers. You could actually make a case

1440
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 15: for any Steelers running back in your lineup because they

1441
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 15: play the Cardinals on Sunday, and the Cardinals have just

1442
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 15: been a disaster against opposing running backs. The Rams, who

1443
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 15: have Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua got a career day

1444
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:30,839
Speaker 15: out of Kiren Williams last week against Arizona. That run defense,

1445
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 15: it's just so porous, and the game is being played

1446
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 15: at home. Jalen Warren and Najie Harris are pretty much

1447
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 15: a fifty to fifty split in terms of snaps for

1448
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 15: the Steelers, but Warren the far more explosive player, very

1449
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 15: good in the passing game as well, as is the

1450
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 15: case with Bijon Robinston for the Falcons. As they get

1451
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 15: right to our second running back here. He's priced at

1452
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 15: eighty one hundred dollars. There's a big ticket item in

1453
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 15: daily fantasy pricing. But for Bijon, it's because they played

1454
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 15: the Jets, and you know, you guys watch this Jets

1455
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 15: team up close and personal twice this but most recently

1456
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 15: just a couple of weeks ago, and you know what,

1457
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 15: the Jets, you don't really bother throwing it all that much.

1458
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 10: Josh Allen had a big day. But Josh is a

1459
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 10: rare breed, that's for sure. With the Bills.

1460
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 15: Because of that talent in the cornerback room, teams just say,

1461
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 15: why bother throwing it? We can just run it, especially

1462
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 15: because the Jets offensive an aptitude is such that they're

1463
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 15: not ever playing shootout games.

1464
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 10: Right.

1465
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 15: If they get the twenty in a week, it's a miracle.

1466
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 15: So I expect the Falcons to just ground and pound

1467
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 15: this game in a major way.

1468
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: And while he might be a big ticket item, you

1469
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: completely jump the shark with your first wide receiver pick,

1470
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 2: or maybe I should say jump the dolphin here with

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Speaker 2: your first pick.

1472
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 15: That's right, Tyreek Kale. Ten thousand bucks doesn't get any

1473
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 15: more expensive than that, guys. But you know what do

1474
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 15: you do when you have the number one receiver in

1475
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 15: fantasy playing against the worst secondary in the NFL? You

1476
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 15: play him in daily fantasy. That's what you do here.

1477
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 15: You know he's untoppable, guys.

1478
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 10: I mean, you know you've seen it.

1479
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 15: You know the Bills are the only team that's kind

1480
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 15: of solved this one of the few team that's kind

1481
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 15: of solved this Miami offense this season. And yet in

1482
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 15: games in which Tyreek Hill's offensive teammates were pretty limited

1483
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 15: didn't really impact him all that much. Tyreek Hill has

1484
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 15: just been remarkable this season. He's got thirteen hundred and

1485
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 15: twenty four receiving yards, his fewest receiving yards in a

1486
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 15: game was forty all the way back in Week two

1487
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 15: against the Patriots when he touchdown in that game as well.

1488
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 15: So only Buffalo has really been able to slow him

1489
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 15: down for a full game. And that's much more the

1490
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 15: as you guys can attest, much more the exception than

1491
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 15: the rule. I don't know who's going to stop him

1492
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 15: in that commander's defense, but you know, in fantasy, daily fantasy,

1493
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 15: you try not to always grab the low hanging fruit,

1494
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 15: but sometimes it's just right there and you can't help but.

1495
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 10: Go for it.

1496
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 15: And then we get to the more interesting picks, right, brownie,

1497
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 15: because at Perry is one that even in astute fantasy

1498
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 15: and football mind like you may not necessarily be talking

1499
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 15: about all that often in your group chat amongst other

1500
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 15: football diehard it's because eight Perry, a six round pick

1501
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 15: out of wake Forests for the Saints, is on the radar.

1502
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 15: There is nobody healthy for the Saints right now amongst

1503
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 15: their top three wide receivers Michael Thomas, Ir Chris Olovic

1504
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 15: concusion protocol and Rashid Shaheed's got a hamstring injury. I

1505
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 15: mean those three right there, quad injury excuse me or

1506
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 15: playing a ton of snaps, so someone's got to step up,

1507
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 15: and I wonder if he can be at Perry, who

1508
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 15: had two targets this past week for the Saints, should

1509
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 15: be a much busier man against the Lions this upcoming Sunday.

1510
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: And then go to the Josh Downs at Tennessee. People

1511
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 1: have really struggled going into Tennessee. They're playing really well

1512
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: at home. Why Josh Downs and the Colts, Yeah, they are.

1513
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 15: Playing well, but I would argue that part of the

1514
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 15: reason why they're playing well is they get the right

1515
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 15: teams that they face at home. So far this season,

1516
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 15: they beat the Falcons, they beat the Chargers, and they

1517
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 15: have most recently beat the Panthers, the worst team in

1518
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 15: the NFL. But with Tennessee, you know, such a pass

1519
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 15: funnel defense. They really struggled to defend opposing wide receivers

1520
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 15: all season.

1521
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 10: And Downs is just so busy.

1522
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 15: It's thirteen targets this past week for Indianapolis turned that

1523
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 15: into just five catches. That's much more about the ballplacement

1524
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 15: than it was the player himself in Josh Downs. And

1525
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 15: the price is pretty darn reasonable at sixty one hundred dollars.

1526
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 2: All right, and you go back to the Washington Miami

1527
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 2: game here with a little bit of a stack, hoping

1528
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: that how it's your tight end a good deal.

1529
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: That's right.

1530
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 15: You say, Sam, how's gonna throw it a lot? You

1531
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 15: say you might be throwing it fifty times in this game. Well,

1532
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 15: Logan Thomas is bound to be targeted five, six, seven,

1533
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 15: maybe even eight times in this game. As a result,

1534
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 15: Thomas a solid player, a good athlete, and if fifty

1535
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 15: two hundred bucks, if he can turn that into five

1536
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 15: to eight targets, I'll feel pretty good about the return

1537
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 15: on investment there.

1538
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 10: I'll take it right to the flex.

1539
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 15: Adam Feelin is the name we've got here, and you

1540
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 15: know Feeling has been the volume guy for that Carolina offense.

1541
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 10: Sometimes a coordator change makes a change.

1542
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 15: You guys have witnessed one of the past couple of

1543
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 15: games from Buffalo. I think I've seen some things that

1544
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 15: are different. But I'd also argue the most important thing

1545
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 15: is that you either have good players or you don't.

1546
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 10: And as far as like.

1547
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,839
Speaker 15: Changing things up from week in and week out, Panthers,

1548
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 15: I'm not sure you're going to change a whole lot,

1549
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 15: but they don't need to. For Adam feelin to pay

1550
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 15: off because Steeling has been so so busy this season.

1551
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 15: He's been averaging something like it's a ridiculous number of targets.

1552
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 15: He's in like the top ten for targets this year,

1553
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 15: So he fits in the flex spot there.

1554
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and that's really a nod towards maybe a

1555
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: change in Carolina or what.

1556
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 7: Man.

1557
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 15: I am hoping that the coordinator change just leads to

1558
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 15: like incremental progress for Bryce Young. The head coach chancers

1559
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 15: to say, I should say, but I think for the

1560
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 15: wide receiver purposes, like it's steeling or bust Jonathan Mingo,

1561
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 15: DJ Chark, I mean, stop me when you're scared of

1562
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 15: a wide receiver. The Carolina is going to roll out

1563
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 15: on field probably the worst skill group in the entire NFL, right,

1564
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 15: I mean it's got to be up there. So it's

1565
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 15: team that I think that's going to struggle to score points,

1566
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 15: whether Bryce Young or I am under center this year,

1567
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 15: and thankfully for the Carolina Panthers, I am not under

1568
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 15: center at all all.

1569
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: Right.

1570
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 2: Finally, defense, usually your punt option and the price tag

1571
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 2: would indicate that here.

1572
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 13: Yes, it is.

1573
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 15: It's the Rams who are not exactly Chuck full of

1574
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 15: household names here, but Joan Brown's. I think there's pretty

1575
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 15: good chance it's Joe Flacco under center for the Browns.

1576
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 15: Dorian Thompson Robinson, he's in the concussion protocol. But let's

1577
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 15: examine what else is happening with the Browns offense. I

1578
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 15: like the Jets without well Aaron Rodgers. I guess they

1579
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 15: can't score touchdowns, really struggle to score over the past

1580
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 15: few weeks with dtr under center. Meanwhile, Mari Cooper is

1581
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 15: iffy to play. The Browns have scored one touchdown in

1582
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,879
Speaker 15: each of their excuse me, one touchdowner for the past

1583
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 15: one touchdown in each of their past two games, so

1584
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 15: I don't expect a whole lot of output there. Joe Flacco,

1585
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,839
Speaker 15: I think is going to be better than Dorian Thompson Robinson,

1586
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 15: but it's still going to be like ten practices worth

1587
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 15: for Joe Flack before he potentially becomes a starter. Marik

1588
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 15: Cooper might not play. Injuries are really hit the Browns

1589
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 15: pretty hard offensively this year, or so the Rams, even

1590
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 15: if they are not exactly the most talented defense for

1591
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 15: great price tag in a great matchup.

1592
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: Good stuff, appreciate you. Feels that's and it's always nice

1593
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: to you know, see every week. How is your Thanksgiving?

1594
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 10: Thanksgiving was great?

1595
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 15: Really, I mean a couple of quiet days at least

1596
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 15: turn not being in the office.

1597
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 10: I might have put on a few.

1598
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,839
Speaker 15: Pounds, but we'll work those off, gentlemen. And I appreciate

1599
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 15: you guys every week. And I know you guys deserve

1600
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 15: these next few days you'll have off. And I know

1601
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 15: it's been a probably a frustrating forty eight.

1602
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 10: Or so hours.

1603
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 15: But counting me amongst the people that think this team

1604
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 15: is primed to do some damage even with a tough schedule,

1605
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 15: come out of the.

1606
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 2: Buy, that sounds good to me. Fiel, Thanks for the time.

1607
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: We'll take your optimism and run with it. We'll catch

1608
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: up with you next week.

1609
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: Thanks man.

1610
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 10: That's good guys, talk to you all right.

1611
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 2: That's Field Yan's ESPNNFL Insider Fantasy Football and List, joining

1612
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 2: us here as he does every week with the Ultimate

1613
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 2: Fantasy Lineup presented by fan Duel. We want to squeeze

1614
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 2: a couple of phone calls in here for people that

1615
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 2: have been waiting patiently. As we've been asking you all

1616
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 2: day today, what is your level of optimism that the

1617
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 2: bills are making the playoffs. Maybe you feel like Field,

1618
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: maybe you feel a little bit differently. But let's go

1619
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 2: to the phones and find out. And we go to

1620
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 2: Fran in Buffalo next. What do you got for his Fran?

1621
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 16: Yeah, good afternoon. Before I make my comment, I want

1622
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 16: to say thanks Chris. You're doing a great chap filling

1623
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 16: in and we miss Murph. What I'd like to talk

1624
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 16: about is time management. The Bills offense has been so

1625
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,759
Speaker 16: prolific and doing fantastic. We've been burned a couple of times,

1626
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 16: especially on the last drive during regulation. We could have

1627
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 16: ran more time off the clock, giving silly less than

1628
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 16: the minute and fifty two that we did, and it's

1629
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 16: burned us more in the past. I haven't heard anybody

1630
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 16: else talk about this.

1631
01:23:58,800 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 10: Well.

1632
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's easier se than done. Certainly, when the

1633
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 1: Bills go in for the final score to Gabe Davis

1634
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: and take the lead with a minute fifty eight or

1635
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: whatever it was fifty two left, it looks easy and

1636
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: maybe you know they what are you gonna You know,

1637
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: they did.

1638
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: Run the ball on first down once they got to

1639
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: first and goal. They were trying to kill some clock,

1640
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: right and you know then or at least force Philly

1641
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 2: to use timeouts, right, you.

1642
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: Gota, what are you gonna kneel down and give yourself

1643
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: one last chance to actually put yourself in the position

1644
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: to win the game. You can't do it. You got

1645
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: a bit of a roulette game. It's yeah, it's a

1646
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: little bit of a Russian roulette there. And so I

1647
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: get it. And I'll say this too. That may be

1648
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 1: some of the things that we've seen in past games

1649
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 1: and in past seasons where the Bills start running the

1650
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 1: ball a little bit too much for most fans liking.

1651
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: It feels like they go into an offensive shell and

1652
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 1: leave their defense hanging out. But I think more than anything,

1653
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: it might be a nod to their confidence in their

1654
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 1: offense's ability to make first downs and just say, listen,

1655
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, so you might you come back

1656
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: and it might bite you in that way, so you think, listen, listen,

1657
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 1: let the offense run the ball here, run the clock,

1658
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: let's get some first downs, uh, and just kill this game.

1659
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: And we've seen him do it. I mean they ran Now,

1660
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: there was one game I can't remember the name of

1661
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: the game. It was a home game. They ran off

1662
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: the last five and a half minutes of the game. Uh,

1663
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: with their offense and just squeeze the game off, which

1664
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. So there's a little bit of that mentality,

1665
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: is that this offense is so good at making first

1666
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,839
Speaker 1: downs that was just put him out there, don't score,

1667
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: just stay on the field. And I think a couple

1668
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: of times maybe they just put him in a spot

1669
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: where they had an opportunity to lose the game.

1670
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 2: Let's go to Ken in New York here, let me

1671
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 2: pull him up. What do you got first, Ken?

1672
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 13: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my call. Sure, man,

1673
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 13: I've been a die hard Bills fan. You know, I

1674
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 13: watched every game they played. I've gotten to some of

1675
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 13: their games. And one quick question, why would they when

1676
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 13: on that game against Denver, why didn't they fire the

1677
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 13: offensive or the special teams coach. They knew there was

1678
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 13: twelve players on the field and they lost that game.

1679
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 13: I don't understand how that could happen. And also with

1680
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 13: Tredavious White going down and Matt Mlano we lost him.

1681
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: I mean, we're not.

1682
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 13: Going to make the playoffs. I mean, we got to

1683
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 13: be realistic about this. We're going to end up being

1684
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 13: nine to eight and that's not going to be good

1685
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 13: enough to make the playoffs. And you know, I mean,

1686
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,799
Speaker 13: it was third down and six on the seventeen yard line.

1687
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 13: Why wouldn't you throw the ball to the tight end,

1688
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,679
Speaker 13: get the first down and keep the play going instead

1689
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 13: of throwing it into the end zone and then kicking

1690
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 13: a field goal and given the the Eagles a chance

1691
01:26:54,720 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 13: to come back. Those are mistakes that I just don't understand. Oh,

1692
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 13: and I'm trying to.

1693
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 3: Wrap my head around me.

1694
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 13: Maybe you guys can understand.

1695
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 3: It better than me. Well, here's the bay.

1696
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. You got to know, Ken, None of

1697
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 1: those things, most of those things, I can't remember everything

1698
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: that you said. None of those things were a mistake

1699
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 1: until he turned out bad. So you can say it

1700
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: was a mistake after the fact, But before the fact,

1701
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: I mean certainly you can say, well, they should have,

1702
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, given themselves a better chance here. They should

1703
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 1: have let Josh throw it with twenty seconds left in

1704
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: the game. They should have you know, called heads when

1705
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: they called tails. I mean, you know, go on, let's

1706
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: go down that rabbit hole. But the simple fact of

1707
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 1: the matter is, none of that stuff is a mistake

1708
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: until after the play is unsuccessful. So and they don't

1709
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: just call plays willy nilly, and they don't call plays

1710
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: because they think they're not gonna work. Uh, And they

1711
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: don't call plays just they don't pick him out of

1712
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 1: a hat when they do call a play that doesn't work.

1713
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get all of that. And there's there,

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01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: and you know, the twelve guys on the field, dude, Yes,

1715
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: the coordinator's part. And I'll say it. I've said it

1716
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: a couple of times this this game, this is you

1717
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: know what am I gonna say? It's everybody's mistake. Twelve

1718
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 1: guys on the field, isn't like somebody somebody they knew

1719
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: they had twelve. They didn't know they had twelve. If

1720
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: that knew they had twelve guys on the field, they

1721
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 1: would have called a time out. They wouldn't have done

1722
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you no, they didn't know they

1723
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: had twelve guys. There's eleven guys out there, as there's

1724
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 1: twelve guys out there, all twelve of them should have

1725
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 1: counted to twelve. Nobody did. That's everybody's mistake except the

1726
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: back judge. Everybody made that mistake. Not it's not his mistake,

1727
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: it's it's twelve guys mistake and it's the it's everybody

1728
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: on the Sideline's mistake.

1729
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta we gotta break here because we're up

1730
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: against it. We'll be back to close it up in

1731
01:28:53,800 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 2: a second here on One Bill's Life. Did want to

1732
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: pass along? Here on One Bill's Live. We do have

1733
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 2: an abbreviated week ourselves on the show. With this being

1734
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 2: the bye week, we will not have a show on

1735
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 2: Thursday or on Friday. We'll resume our regular programming the

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01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:30,959
Speaker 2: following Monday at noon with that in mind instead of Friday.

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Speaker 2: On tomorrow's show, we will have senior producer from NFL Films,

1738
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 2: Greig Cosell, joining us to not only break down maybe

1739
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 2: some final thoughts on Bill's Eagles, but also the upcoming

1740
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: games after the bye. We'll see you tomorrow at one