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Speaker 1: My guest is the visionary founder and CEO of a

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Speaker 1: pre eminent employee engagement and workplace culture consulting firm to

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Speaker 1: fortune one hundred companies. She has personally read over thirty

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Speaker 1: thousand employee surveys and facilitated over one hundred employee focused groups,

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Speaker 1: including her signature art of active listening sessions. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Heather Younger. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing, Heather?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: First word, Heather, you know, kind of low key now,

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Speaker 1: I've seen your picture energetic and everything is a long

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Speaker 1: day person.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get a.

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Speaker 1: Low key Heather. I've seen operation I'm on YouTube, I've

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Speaker 1: seen Ted Eggs. You doing, Yeah, it's been a long day. Brother,

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Speaker 1: you get what you get. You get what you get, brother,

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Speaker 1: get what you get.

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Speaker 3: That's hilarious. Pop off. I'm gonna impart some wisdom, so

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Speaker 3: you know, let's just get to it.

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Speaker 2: Come.

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Speaker 1: You gotta inspire me, you know, because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that you know, I'm a fan, because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that you know what you do.

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Speaker 2: You do your research and.

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Speaker 1: Uh and I don't know everybody, but then if I

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Speaker 1: want to know something about somebody, the beauty of googling

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Speaker 1: somebody's name and then it just pop up and go.

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Speaker 2: While she's running around the room, she's touching people, she's

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Speaker 2: on stage, she's hopping around. Heah rashean. How you doing that?

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Speaker 3: Brother? Yeah, yeah, I can't. I can't touch you the

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Speaker 3: phone call, you know, no, no, no, But.

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Speaker 1: You can touch me with that ended you though, So

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Speaker 1: tell everybody about your Heather. You know, I've done my

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Speaker 1: research on you. Let everybody know a little bit about

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Speaker 1: you before we get into all those great things I

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Speaker 1: said about you. Reading thirty thous employee surveys and facilitating

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Speaker 1: over one hundred employee focused group. That's a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff and you have to have a lot of energy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm driven to be honest. I'm driven

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Speaker 3: to be the voice for those who don't really have

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Speaker 3: in this current workplace environment where you see what's happening

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Speaker 3: in the government, where I think there's just a lot

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Speaker 3: of people who feel helpless and hopeless, and by the

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Speaker 3: way they have it's a historical thing that whole the

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Speaker 3: imbalance of power between employer and employee is massive, and

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Speaker 3: I saw a firsthand when I was working in an

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Speaker 3: I was being dragged down like everybody else in that

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Speaker 3: change out of seeking because no one's going to be

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Speaker 3: there to save me. I needed to go to save

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Speaker 3: kind of took it by myself to create an employ

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Speaker 3: about about what was happening, to listen to on another

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Speaker 3: merger more successful. But in that process, there was a layoff,

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Speaker 3: and I was one of the people at two hundred

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Speaker 3: power they're giving away positive power, not the negative, yucky

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Speaker 1: Let measure this, Heather, because you know, layoffs, a person

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Speaker 1: being laid off and a person being fired are two

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Speaker 1: He said, Richard, can you come back. We need to talk.

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Speaker 1: I said, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: He said, we got to lay off.

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Speaker 1: I remember when he said it to me. I slid

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Speaker 1: not you've done nothing wrong and people have changed your life,

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Speaker 1: will get fired. No, they are going to get fired.

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Speaker 1: They're just waiting for you to make the decisions. That's

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Speaker 2: But guess what, I'm gonna keep coming in until they do.

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Speaker 3: Coming.

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Speaker 2: Okay, talk about that emotional window.

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Speaker 1: We you start talking about leadership and being in the

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Speaker 1: in the role of HR or is there a modern

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean HR. I mean I love HR people

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Speaker 3: they do have a complicated role because they're representing both

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Speaker 3: They are there so they're in a untental position. They're

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Speaker 3: not just there as advocates for the employees. They have

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Speaker 3: to do both. So I here's how I look at it,

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Speaker 3: then kind of coming through that. Uh, I ain't nobody

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Speaker 3: coming to save me, and in the workplace, no one's

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Speaker 3: coming to save you, HR included. You have to be

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Speaker 3: being terminated, I've been in both situations only once each time,

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Speaker 3: that it's coming. I knew that both were coming next

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Speaker 3: say that there's more shame associated with determination. Then there's

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Speaker 3: the left with the laft. You do feel shame, but

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Speaker 3: at the same time, because you understand you didn't have

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Speaker 3: thoughts that serve me. So in that situation that layoff

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Speaker 3: never knew. I met my best friend there. I got

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Speaker 3: jumping off all the states, all those things you're talking

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Speaker 1: Heather I'm speaking to Heather Younger and just her whole

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Speaker 1: Now the workplace environment, that's this average person. I know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one thing I'm going to say to

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Speaker 3: So it's been a long long time since I've been

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Speaker 3: So I haven't lived it in my own shoes for

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Speaker 3: just that's one thing I do want to say. But

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Speaker 3: I think the very first thing we should do is

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Speaker 3: we do is should come home, find paper, a journal,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that I look at yourself as

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Speaker 3: It is a diamond you were all put here to be.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I would say to everybody listening right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what you should say. My friend is dad.

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Speaker 1: Heather Younger is the ball you are. I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: that I invited you on my show because your voice

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Speaker 1: announced on the newspaper, they get laid off. Make a decision.

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Speaker 1: If you don't make the decision, we'll make the decision

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Speaker 1: for you. And that's when the self evaluation comes in.

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Speaker 1: That's when you should wake up planning and don't wait

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Speaker 1: wait for the plan to become part of the plan.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, set to make the plan, don't become

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Speaker 3: Yep, And don't wait to get on anybody's calendar.

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Speaker 1: Girl, I wish I could talk to you a long

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Speaker 1: because Daralen, can I invite you back on my show?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Great, because I got to bring you back because you

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Speaker 1: you as another question pop up and go that's five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Because you're a good talker.

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Speaker 1: I like I do is ask you a question you

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Speaker 1: five minutes in you know that's it because you're that good.

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Speaker 1: But again, tell everybody about your website and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk soon.

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Speaker 2: With my friend.

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Speaker 3: All right, did I get ahead of younger dot com?

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Speaker 3: Go check it out, and and check out my new

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Speaker 2: Make sure I get it so I can talk about it.

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Speaker 2: We talked to them.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I appreciate your how Thank you.

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Speaker 1: This has been another edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass

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Speaker 1: hosted by me Rashaan McDonald. Thank you to our guests

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