WEBVTT - Ranking Every Hole at Augusta National 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.800 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.920 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.960 And when I find my ball in a brid egg 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:07.880 Friday Egg, the. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.840 Dreaded Frida Egg Friday fridagg Bride Egg. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:40.120 Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:38.080 All right, welcome back to another edition of the Friday 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:42.800 Golf Podcast. I am here with my wonderful co host, 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.600 Garrett Morrison. Garrett, how are you doing? 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:47.760 Hello? We are in person. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:49.200 We're at the Dratty House. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:53.320 We're at the Drafty House in Augusta, Georgia, and it's 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:54.440 it's great to be in person. 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.000 Yeah, it is wonderful. Garrett. You just wrapped up a 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:01.480 couple of days at Annwha. I just wrapped up getting 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:06.920 on site, checking in, getting a milling about Augusta National 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.679 for a day. We're here. So this is the beginning 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:15.160 of Master's week. This is Sunday afternoon recording, and we 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:19.080 got a fun little activity. I it was a hard activity. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.800 I have to say. We are going to rank. So 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.480 I ranked one through eighteen the holes of Augustin National, 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.360 and you ranked one through eighteen the wholes of Augustin National. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.480 I don't think we set criteria you could. You know, 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.480 this is definitely not like I didn't. I didn't go 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.440 about it as a ranking of like holes with the 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.160 most drama or the greatest moments in Master's history. I 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.360 kind of just looked at them whole by hole. So 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.960 I want to preface that here. You know, I'm sure 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.160 when we're talking about the holes, some you know, people 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.280 are going to be upset that maybe a certain certain 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.200 holes or places. You know, this was just opinion everybody. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.120 I would urge everybody to try and do it themselves. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.640 It's actually like really hard. I like got to a 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:06.720 point and I was like, wait, I can't believe this 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.800 hole is so far down, you know. And then I 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:11.200 was looking at what was ahead of it, and I 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:12.880 was like, I don't think there's really a spot. How 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:13.560 do you find that? 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.760 There's a lot of less good holes here? So if 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.639 a hole is in the bottom half of the ranking here, 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.640 we're not saying it's bad. This is one of the 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.040 great courses in the world. Obviously, it's great because a 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.720 lot of the holes are really really good. So if 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.360 a whole place is fourteenth out of eighteen, that doesn't 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.839 mean it's bad. It just means that we think other 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.680 holes are better. Yeah, criteria is a you know, that's 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.040 an interesting question here, because even if we're just ranking 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:47.760 them architecturally and not based on memories or moments or whatever, 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:52.280 there's still a lot of ways to rank holes architecturally. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.280 You know. Should we be talking about them as competitive 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:59.720 elite golf holes, like what they do to the players 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.680 in the Masters, or should we be ranking them, you know, 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:08.280 from the perspective of amateurs or even just all golfers. Right, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.120 should we be ranking them from the championship tees or 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.760 the member tees, because those are very different golf holes. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:18.639 I ended up going kind of with the master's perspective, right, 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.320 how well did these holes function in the Masters? And 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:22.640 so right way, I think. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.800 I even thought about it that much, you know, I 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.520 kind of just I just went off. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.480 You just went off feeling is this whole better than 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:29.840 that one? 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.560 Well, I'll tell you what. I started trying to do 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.400 this in in Apple Notes. I use Apple Notes a 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.400 lot to write. It's become my new like word processor, actually, 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.320 but I started doing that with like a numbered list, 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.080 and then I was in the media center and one 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.520 of the coolest things in the Media Center. Brendan hates them, 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.560 but I think they're really neat. Is they have these 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.840 old notebooks that they you know, I don't think anybody 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:01.440 in the press uses it really now I haven't even 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.320 seen them, but they're these old notebooks. They're like they're 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.680 like an eight by eleven. They've got the master's logo across. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.720 And it was like, clearly how like old journalists used 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:16.279 to chronicle rounds. It's got a player named Date Round 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.480 and you could track, like, you know what clubs they 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.040 were hitting, the number of putts, and there's a space 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.000 for notes, but it lists every hole, the yardage in 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:30.039 the bar. And so it created this awesome way to 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.640 rank them because I just filled in under the club 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.040 section all my rankings and it's it was an amazing 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.160 way to visualize it. I'll post a picture of it 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:38.760 with the pod. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.960 Yeah, it's really nice. And by the way, I wanted 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.160 to give some acknowledgment to where we got this idea. 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.880 This is a great account name Jean van de Veld 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.240 Revenge account is the is the name of the account 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.360 that proposed to us back in February. You know, he says, 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.200 this is probably a very stupid theme. But I'd love 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:03.080 to hear a fry a golf podcast episode titled ranking 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.240 all eighteen holes at Augusta National. And you know, we 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.840 thought that was that was a pretty decent idea, something 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.000 fun to do kind of midweek Masters week. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.920 As I mentioned at the top, we are at the 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:19.880 Dratty House. B. Dratty is our great longtime apparel partner. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.240 It's spring. I think this is a great time to 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.640 examine what you got going in your closet right now, Garrett, 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.080 you were out on like a crisp day at Agussa. 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.280 What what'd you rock? What was? What were what were 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:35.679 your options from Dratty? 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.800 Now? Already this ad read is going off the rails 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.359 because I don't know the exact term for it. But 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.280 I was wearing a B. Dratty hoodie, the. 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.599 One that you and I saw, the Proctor hoodie. The 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.279 Proctor hood is great. 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.480 I would wear that every day if I could, If 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.599 if people would like let me wear the same clothes 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.039 every day, I would wear that every day. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.760 If you had like or five of them. 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.280 Yeah, I just need four or five of them in 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.720 like different colors. I think even then my wife would 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.680 be like, why are you wearing the same style of 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.800 hoodie every day, but I think I would go for it. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.680 It's so comfortable. It's just the right kind of thickness, 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:14.719 you know, it's it's great. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.760 So that's the Procter hoodie. I you know, it made 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:22.599 me think of the you know, A related related item 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.760 that they make is the Russell Kru neck, which is 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.760 another great one. I remember I was getting I was 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.760 getting ready. We were going on like a casual date night, 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.520 and I was I put on clothes and I was like, 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.280 what do you think about my outfit? My wife, you know, 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:45.320 she always asked me, and I was wearing like a 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.800 pair of pants and a Russell Kru neck and She's like, 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.960 I mean you wear that like every day. So there's 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.200 this stuff. This is stuff I live in. 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.560 But she wasn't offended by it. She was like, Okay, 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.200 you still look good. Fine, yeah, special, but it's fine. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.200 So the crew dock, the Russell crew, the Proctor hoodie 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.240 great great items if you're in like a spring climate 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.640 where it's a little chili. I just got back from 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.280 Northern Ireland, which was like I think, like peak spring, 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:19.560 like kind of gnarly spring golf weather in March I 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:24.000 wore every day there, I wore different jackpolo. So the 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.600 long sleeve Jackpolo, I'm not. I'm not gonna lie. Before 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.520 they sent me one of these, it was one. I 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:36.800 was like not into the long sleeve polo. Now I'm very, 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.680 very like. I wear them a lot. I really like them. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.280 They're like the perfect if it's gonna be fifty degrees 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:48.000 in the morning, item to wear it is. It's great. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.320 If you throw a vest on with it, you are 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:54.360 like your Primetime You're like perfectly layered. So if you 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:58.920 use the promo code TFE thirty, that's TFE thirty at 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.240 b draddy dot com, you get thirty percent off. Big 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:06.960 thanks to them for uh supporting what we do, supporting 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:10.200 our week here down to Augusta National and the d House, 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.080 supporting the House, supporting the House. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:13.440 Got to have a roof over our heads. 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.200 Exactly a lot of fun happens in this house this week. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.120 So all right, let's get to our holes. Garrett, you're 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.400 the guest here. Do you want to go one through 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.080 eighteen or do you want to go eighteen through eighteen 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.400 through one? You want to oh god, we're going to 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:28.400 start with the negatives. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.440 Yeah, but we got it in a positive note. We're 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.520 not going to hook people send people out on a 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:33.319 high right. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.959 We're hooking people in with the with what we think 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.520 is the worst hole at Augusta National Right. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:41.600 We're going negative. I don't think we are the problem 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:42.120 with media. 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.959 I want to be clear here. I don't. I don't. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.719 I don't think anybody should be able to characterize this 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.280 as the worstule. This is my eighteenth favorite. 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:50.720 This is the. 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.560 Least good hole. Yeah, I think, what. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:54.520 Do you have? 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:55.840 You got seven? 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.720 I'll get seven too, I thought, I mean I almost 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:01.680 I I was doing this and I was like, I know, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:06.080 Garrett's gonna have seven as the worst. And I almost zigged, 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.000 just as zig just so we had something different. But 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.400 I couldn't get myself to do that. Why why do 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.680 you have it here? It's probably the same reasoning as me. 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.680 I think it's just the ultimate example of what tigerproofing 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.800 has rot. Not every bad thing that has happened to 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.959 that hole is a result immediately of tigerproofing. There have 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.200 been a lot of trees on that hole for a 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:32.960 long time, but now it's just long. It's got trees 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.760 really close on both sides. The fairway is really narrow 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.840 until it opens up towards. 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.200 The can I tell you another little thing about that fairway. 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:44.679 It's so hard to hit. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.120 Yeah, because if you go off the right side. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:51.240 It can't you can't really see it from TV, but 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:56.400 the fairway slopes pretty a pretty good click clip left 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:56.800 to right. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.240 Yeah, So it's like it's. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.760 So hard to hit, it's so narrow. Functionally, the ten 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.520 the ten yards of the right half of the fairway 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:09.960 mean you're going to go in the rough and then 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.400 you're probably gonna be blocked out. 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.520 Yeah. Yeah, you've got tree trouble. And yeah, you've summed 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.520 it up right there. It's just it's not it's you 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.000 know when I say it's not the hole, it was 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.400 meant to be. Obviously, as soon as Perry Maxwell lengthened 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.400 that hole and put the green up on the hill 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.880 instead of having it down below in the valley where 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.960 it was originally, the hole kind of took on its identity. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.440 You know, It's it's not quirky. It has not been 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:38.160 a quirky hole for a long time. But I think 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.680 the narrowing and the lengthening have just kind of turned 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.280 it into a slog. It's a place where you know, 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.240 they're just trying to keep the scores a little bit higher. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.280 And I understand that, but you know that's why it's 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:49.920 the least good. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.240 Hole, all right. So my devil's advocate take on, like, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.280 how you could you know if you love seven. I 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:02.120 think this is what people might say is listen, it's 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.920 the most execution t shot out there, and maybe the 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.160 golf course from a sense of tea shot variety, should 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.520 have one hole where it's like you have to hit 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.200 it really straight. I think like Augusta has a lot 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:21.120 of like pretty generous corridors where the corridor space you 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.480 have every hole you want to be a certain spot, 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.800 but the corridor spaces are fairly wide. Now, they might say, 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.800 in terms of variety, this gives it one very narrow 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.680 hole that you have to execute on this narrow thing. 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:36.880 It's a change up from the rest of the course. 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:41.320 It's a different window. And then the other side is 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.440 there's been a lot of really exciting moments that have 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:48.199 happened from the trees approaching that green. There have been 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.000 some cool shots over the years. 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.280 Yeah, and I think the green itself is pretty interesting. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.960 It is idiot. It slopes off pretty hard to the 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.640 left side. There's a number of different sections to it. 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:02.080 So again, this is a national There's gonna be a 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.880 lot of cool things about any individual hole, but this 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:07.680 is just the one I think of when I think 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.840 of what has kind of gone the wrong direction for 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.720 me at Augusta in the past twenty five years or so. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.440 And I think like every one of these holes, for 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.520 the most part, has a really interesting green. And what's 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.760 cool about this green is it's the most it's really 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:28.200 the most shallow green, and it it's just like you 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.920 have to hit a really really great second shot here, 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:33.280 and it's cool green. 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.719 So all right, why don't we go with your seventeenth 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:37.439 ranked hole? 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.040 Is my seventeenth I have this in chronological or my computer, 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.560 but I'm using the list here. This is krock going 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:50.120 to be controversial. I have eighteen. It's my seventeenth ranked hole. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.199 Okay, where is what on your list? Let me see. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.560 I was just numbering them because I have them in 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:01.960 order instead of like numbered. So eighteen, seventeen, sixteen, fifteen, fourteen, thirteen, 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.400 I have it at thirteen. That was one that was 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.120 a little difficult for me to place. I do think 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.040 it has a pretty wonderful green. 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:13.400 It does, so every hole there has a wonderful green 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:14.320 for the most part. 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.560 Absolutely. I think the the other thing that I like 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.880 about it is that I just I like it at 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.240 the end of the tournament when you know, you finish 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.320 up this stretch of pretty gettable holes and you come 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.240 to eighteen and you've just got to hit a banana 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.679 slights around the corner and a you know, straight uphill 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.400 shot and find the right section of the green. For 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.640 some reason, over the years, I've I've gained some more 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.160 affection for it. But why is it seventeen? 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:45.080 I just don't love like the outside bunkers in terms 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.760 of the golf hole. They weren't there originally. I don't. 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.080 I don't think the hole really needs them. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.480 That tea shot looks ridiculous. When you look down, all 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:56.800 you can see is the bunkers. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.560 It's you know. I think the thing about Augusta that 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.520 I love the most is the t shots that have 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.200 like a lot of dynamics to them, Like if you 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:09.200 play here you get this, but you could play over 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.440 here and it's like the shades of gray that that 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:17.440 It's like the golf course isn't it isn't like you're 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.680 not right or wrong when you hit a T shot. 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.520 On most holes, it's not like a true or false 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.480 and eighteen feels like it's true or false. Like it 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.680 feels like every T shot at Augusta's kind of like 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.640 an essay, and it's like, you know when you're writing 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.760 an essay, or when you used to write an essay 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.600 and he've gotten off to a really bad start. You know, 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:41.640 like it's like familiar with this, It's gonna be very good, 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.640 you know, Like but I could save it. I could. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.800 There's still time to save it. That's how every T 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.840 shot at Augusta feels like, like even if you hit 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.480 a bad one, you're like, Okay, I can redeem myself 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.280 here the eighteenth it just doesn't feel like it feels 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.520 more true false than like giving you the chance to 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.000 redeem yourself even if you get off to a bad start. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.280 That being said, there are some really cool things I 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.640 like about the hole. A subtle thing that I really 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.240 love about the hole is I think like for a finisher, 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:16.200 having the approach shot, hitting an iron off an upslope 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.560 when you're uncomfortable when you're trying to get around to 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.080 the house is really hard. Because like hitting irons from 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.000 an upslope, like if you're not feeling right, it's really 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.160 easy to tug them left. It's really easy to leave 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.280 them high out right, like you have to make a 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:34.280 really committed swing, and that upslope is like pretty severe. 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.760 It is like it is a not an easy shot. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.960 So I think that are like with all these holes, again, 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.800 is the least bad, Like this is just kind of 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.240 where I like, I was doing this exercise and I 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.680 just like there are things about every other hole that 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.040 I liked a little bit more. I like the green. 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.000 I like a lot of other greens more though, So 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.240 it's here. I don't think this is right or wrong answer. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.560 And again, this is isn't about like the moments that 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:06.640 happened here. It's more so about the hole. Obviously, if 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.560 we're going with like moments that happened on this hole, 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:13.120 it would be way higher because it's literally the last 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.760 hole determining championships. Yeah. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.680 Yeah, So it has that position because it's the last hole, 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.040 and I think that part of my view of it 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.040 is a little bit biased by that. But I also 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.240 had it in my bottom half of holes, so I'm 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.640 pretty much on board with everything. You're saying there you 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:31.280 want to hear my seventeenth ring hole sixteen. 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.880 I knew yours was going to be there. I'm bumped 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:34.520 it way up. 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.000 I knew what did you What did you bump it to? 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.320 I bumped it to thirteen. 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.360 Okay, well that's where I had eighteen. So we're actually 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.600 in the same situation here. Now this is a bit 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:51.920 of admittedly a petulant take from me. Sixteen. I just 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.640 think that hole has a lot of potential even where 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.680 it's laid out now. Robert tren Jones re routed it 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.760 after World War Two, right, the old Mackenzie hole is 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:05.000 not coming back. It was in a different place. I 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.840 think there's still a lot of potential in that hole. Obviously, 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.800 it's created a number of wonderful moments during the Championship, 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.239 like some of the roars that have happened there, some 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:18.879 of those hole in one opportunities. But people may be 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.960 surprised by my main objection here. It's not necessarily that 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.639 the funnel pin is silly. The funnel pin is what 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.720 it is. I think it is a little bit silly, 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.800 but you know, it's so exciting that I can almost 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.639 forgive it. The main thing that bothers me about the 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.679 hole is that the green is just totally out of 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.480 style with the rest of the greens at Augusta National. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:47.439 There's not as much interesting shaping or ideas on or 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.880 around that green. It's pretty much a straight tier. 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.399 I think, especially around the green. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.560 Around the green is the biggest tell that that's not 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.479 an original green. If you look around the greens, at 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.600 the exterior contours on pretty much every other hole at 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:06.359 Augusta National, there's something really artful and clever going on. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.160 Look at the first green, look at the fifth green, 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.119 Look at the fourteenth green, look at the seventeenth green. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.439 If you walk around those greens, you can see some 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:20.240 artistry going on and some thought going into how the 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:24.119 green is built up. From the Grade sixteen, it just 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.760 the transition from the putting surface to the fringe is 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.720 pretty much flat, and I think that's a bit of 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:33.679 a miss at a course that is so identified with 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:34.720 its green contouring. 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.560 All right, I had it thirteen. I'm just you know, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:43.320 we talked about not doing stuff on history or moments. 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.480 I think I probably got it up there because I 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.760 was like, you know what, a lot of moments, lots 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.480 of moments and it's pretty. You know, I think that's 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.440 probably very pretty. And I think like. 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.040 It's so beautiful in that little valley there. That's why 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:58.920 I think it has such potential because it's a great 0:18:59.000 --> 0:18:59.800 place for the whole. 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:04.280 I also will say, like I love watching golf at 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:08.879 a lot of places. Augusta National. The atmosphere there on 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:13.480 a weekend is like, if you know, okay, I say 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.399 this like every kind of pot or tip that I 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.359 give people when somebody asks me for tips for watching 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.359 it Augusta National. If you ever go, get the chance 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.120 to go on the weekend, which is like a very 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:28.919 rare ticket, this hole gets like loaded up. It's you know, 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.560 everybody's going to watch golf there because of the chances. 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.520 Like one of the cool things about Augusta is the 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:40.720 policy on seats. It's very much a like shared thing. 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.879 So it is perfectly cool if you see an open 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.520 seat to go, sit in the seat, and if the 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.680 people that come, the people that put the chairs down come, 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.720 they're just going to tap you on the shoulder and say, 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.960 oh hey, this is my seat, and you just get 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:57.960 up and go and it's like a fine thing. So 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.640 if you see two open seats, your mill and about 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.160 you can go sit and like, I think I've moved 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:07.120 it up to thirteen mainly because like on a Saturday, 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.160 on a nice Saturday or Sunday at the Masters, it 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.679 is there is not like really a better place to 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:14.440 watch golf than right there. 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:18.680 It's great. And something that I noticed during this last 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:24.719 anwah is how close that fifteen sixteen hub is amazing 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.120 to this central hub of the property, which is two Green, 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:34.040 three t seventeen Green, eighty seven Green. That whole area 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.960 is basically the center from which the routing kind of 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.080 radiates out. And the magical thing about it is that 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.440 you can just walk straight to it from the clubhouse 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:48.000 because there's a big thoroughfare down there to the side 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.359 of the eighteenth Fairway. You just cross a couple of 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:55.560 holes and you're there. From that point. From that central hub, 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.760 it's not very far at all to fifteen and sixteen, 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:00.920 so it's really kind of part of that whole complex. 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:05.040 Well, it's so close to to like five Green, sixty 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:09.200 sixth Green, it is, like, I mean, it's right there. 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:11.840 Because sixth Green is basically right on top of the 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:12.920 sixteenth hole. 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:15.520