WEBVTT - Kari Byron 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.400 The Craig Ferguson Pants on Fire Tour is on sale now. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.880 It's a new show, it's new material, but I'm afraid 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:12.440 it's still only me, Craig Ferguson on my own, standing 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.760 on a stage telling comedy words. Come and see me, 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:18.520 buy tickets, bring your loved ones, or don't come and 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.400 see me. Don't buy tickets and don't bring your loved ones. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:23.880 I'm not your dad. You come or don't come, but 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.120 you should at least know what's happening, and it is. 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:30.120 The tour kicks off late September and goes through the 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.960 end of the year and beyond. Tickets are available at 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.440 the Craig Ferguson Show dot com slash tour. They're available 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.720 at the Craig Ferguson show dot com slash tour or 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:45.080 at your local outlet in your region. My name is 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:49.879 Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast is Joy. I 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.600 talk to interest in people about what brings them happiness. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:00.600 Welcome to Joy the Podcast. My guest today is a 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.080 friend of mine full disclosure, A good friend of mine 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.440 and a good person and very clever and very interesting, 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:10.840 and she is a MythBuster. So that works. Her name 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:22.880 is Carried Byron, and you're welcome and enjoy carry. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.520 I want to ask you a question. Yes, this is 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:26.000 a question. 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.680 Although I've known you for many years, I have never 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.280 answer you this question, unless maybe I have asked you 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:31.800 this question. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:32.680 But we'll find out. 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.240 Are you in any way related to Lord Byron? 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:41.080 Well, according to my father, yes, but my father was 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.880 one of those big fish kind of guys that tells 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:48.160 really great stories. So sometimes I'm just going to go 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:53.080 with yes. I have never fully fully investigated it. But 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.440 my dad used to have this big leather bound Lord 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.640 Byron book, okay, read in front of the fireplace, and 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.600 like five am when I get up early, I'd curl 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.640 up on his lap and he would read me poetry. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.280 And I didn't understand any of it until I was older, 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.400 but he felt this. I think it just gave him 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.840 a sense of importance. So like on his deathbed, I 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.480 read him Lord Byron poetry. 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:19.600 Oh wow, that's father lovely. And I'm sorry to hear 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.760 that your father's passed. But what a lovely thing to do? 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.360 Was he able to hear you? Did he enjoy it? 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:25.920 And stuff? 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.359 I feel like he did. He wasn't really in a 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:31.200 state of it. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:32.799 So yeah, you know. 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.600 I gave my mother on her deathbed, I gave her 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:41.600 a photograph of Tony Curtis. Tony Curtis had been on 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.840 the Late Night Show and that was my mom's favorite. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.320 And then she was dying and I told Tony Curtis 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:47.240 my mom was in the hospital. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:47.960 She's very second. 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.160 I was going to leave after the show, and he went, oh, 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.360 and he signed a photograph for and I gave it 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.760 to my mom. But I think I don't think she 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:57.880 saw it, but I like to think that she knew 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.680 that it was a picture of Tony Curtis signed by 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:05.639 Tony Kurtiz On anyway, listen, it's a rather poetic name 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.480 for someone who I think of as being a science 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.840 You're very sciencey. You come you've come to my haunted 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.480 houses in Scotland, and you're like, ah, there's no such 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.959 thing as ghosts, and you're very sciencey about it. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.800 But of course there are such a thing as ghosts. Obviously. 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.880 I wanted to be haunted so badly at your house, 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.919 Like I stayed awake, I walked around in the dark. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.680 I was like, bring it, because I would love to 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.280 be haunted. That would be so cool. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.000 Yeah, that's what they don't do it if you want it. Also, 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:36.840 I think there were a couple of scotsmen at the 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.720 parties be very happy to be haunting you in the 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.440 middle of the night if they you you were walking 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.360 around the castle. I watched a couple of those gentlemen. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.000 What all you around the dance floor. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.880 But you do some real fun dancing at your parties. 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:51.920 You have never done that kind of dancing. It's it's 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.840 like Scottish line dancing or coon it is. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.920 It's reels. It's it's reels before Instagram. Now let me 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:03.600 let me ask you this because you are one of 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.119 a select gang that throughout the course of this podcast 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.480 I will talk to all of them, even probably including 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:13.720 Jamie is myth Butler's Royalty. You were the only for 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.960 most of the time anyway, you were the only women 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:16.880 on the team, right. 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.520 Well, we started out with Skotcharny. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:25.080 Yes, she is just an amazing welder and very very cool. 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:29.279 I was just the longest running and consistently the first one. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.200 I was helping Jamie out behind the scenes when I 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.200 was just interning, so like the very first episode, I 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:35.600 was there. 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.760 But you were interning, right, That's what it was. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.440 It was just like because because you I feel like 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.200 maybe I'm making this up, but I feel like I 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:48.039 think of you as you were a sculptress or a sculptor, right, 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.240 that was your thing, that's where you were going to do. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:51.039 You still do that? 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.000 Yeah, I mean some of them are behind me. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.200 I was going to say those ones behind you yours? 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.520 Yeah, I mean I've always done it. I thought when 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.280 I was in San Francisco that I was going to 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.080 become this like really cool sculptor and my life was 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:07.280 going to be artie and my creepy little sculptures didn't 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.360 really sell that well. I couldn't make a living out 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.400 of it, so I thought, oh my god, how could 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.720 I still be a sculptor and do this kind of thing? 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.000 But like it paid, So then I started trying to 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.480 put together a portfolio so that I could maybe go work. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.800 It's you know, work on Star Wars because Lucas Ranch 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.000 was so close to us, and I wanted to be 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.800 like Jamie and Adam and Tory when I grew up. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.800 I wanted to do what they did. They were model makers. Yeah, 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.200 but I ended up using those sculptures that I had 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.440 made artistically to impress Jamie, and he's like, Okay, you know, 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:40.600 maybe I'll give you a job. 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.920 I won't pay you, but you can come work here. 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:43.200 Yeah. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.039 That sounds very much like Jamie. He's he's for. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:51.560 He's a very singular human being. I've always liked very 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.039 much what he did on camera. I always got very 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.280 a sense of like, there were people like you and 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.640 Adam and Torry and Grant God dressed them. We're very 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.760 comfortable on camera and kind of loved it and we're 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.000 very natural. And Jamie I always get a sense that 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.000 he was kind of rather grudgingly doing it because he 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.920 felt like someone. I felt like someone had told him 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.839 he had to do it and say you. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.960 Went yeah, right, I don't like it? Or am I 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.320 making out? Was that character? 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.120 No? No, there is no character like Jamie is Jamie. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:27.600 When I occasionally go visit his shop and he oorates 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.440 the gearing of everything he's working on, like it's the 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.839 same stuff, like he's working for some DARPA think tank 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.960 or something at this point on some stuff I probably 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.800 can't talk about, but I all spent an hour just 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.720 listening to him explain projects. But he did MythBusters because 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.400 they gave him an opportunity to do really cool, weird, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:46.280 wild stuff. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.640 Right, there was a lot of explosions. You guys blew 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.279 up a lot of stuff, a lot. 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.279 No, honestly, that wasn't his favorite. That was like one 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:52.960 of my favorites. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:54.280 You seem to be very. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.760 Drawn to explosions. Do you still get to get your 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:57.640 explosions fixed? 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.719 Now? How do you get your semtex fixed these days? 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:03.200 Well? 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:08.640 I do black powder artwork, so I'm still yeah, you 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.840 send you some, give me your address, I'll send you 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.520 some powder. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.200 It's not going to work well that you can't said. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:20.400 That it is all. It's already it's already been set off. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:26.440 So I take canvases, cover them in a watercolor paper, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.920 and then I I do these controlled explosions. They're not 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.560 very big because I'm doing in my backyard. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:34.200 Oh my god. 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.560 Yeah, don't tell anybody anybody, but I have I have 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:44.520 a storage of really old dirty black powder, like not 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.480 the clean kind because they change the recipe, but like 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.760 the old stuff that they would put in canons. So 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.000 I have this old black powder. And when I was 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.280 on MythBusters, I learned how much I loved the detritus 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.160 that was left behind when we do explosions, and so 0:07:58.200 --> 0:07:58.600 I'm like. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.280 I wonder if I could make that into our work. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:04.000 So I started exploding things on paper and using clay 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.040 to mask things off, and I made these kind of 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.600 really cool explorations in What's Left Behind, which is basically 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.240 at that point just a charcoal painting. And then I 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.160 discovered there's other artists that do this. There's like a 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.560 really famous Chinese artist that does this much bigger and 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.360 better than I do. But it's it's just another way 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.600 I can have an expression of art well, still blown, but. 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.320 It's got to be it's got to be abstracts. 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.160 Like, it's not like you said something off and suddenly 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.360 there's a horse or something like that. 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.680 Right Actruly, I do a lot of abstract stuff. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.280 All of my abstract stuff has a theme of connectivity, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.280 humanity and quantum physics. But then every now and then, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.480 like I will do pieces where I take this palmer 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.760 clay and then I will extrude it into these long, 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.560 skinny pieces and I will put it on a paper. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.600 I did one recently for my friend who had lost 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:00.839 her her dog, and so did a portrait of her 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.560 dog using this clay to kind of mask off an 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.359 area that would create negative space, and then I exploded 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.160 black powder behind it, and it makes this really cool 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.839 charcoal painting. But it's almost like it's like when you 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.960 look at the negative space is white and then. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.280 The background the explosions. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.800 Yeah, but it creates this sort of chaos because like 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.640 the little the grain that I use, I use a 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:29.640 really big grain because I like how it shoots around 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.480 the page and makes these little like squiggly marks, and 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:33.960 then parts of it kind of explosive. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.280 Do you have to use special paper you blow up 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:36.760 your paper? 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.440 Well, I've I've done a lot of experimenting, as you 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.000 know I like to do, and I've figured out, you know, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:47.199 it's if you contain the black powder, it creates an 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:52.640 explosion and that's when things get destroyed and there's just chaos. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.440 But if you if it's open air, it just goes 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:01.559 and it just leaves charcoal behind. I mean, mind you, 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:07.360 My daughter hates it because the smell of sulfur lofting 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:08.439 up into her room. 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.880 She's like, oh, it smells like smoky farts. I hate it. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:17.040 Well, I do quite like the smell of smoky for 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:19.400 or I was going to say sulfur, and then I 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.440 said smoky farts. But I say, I think I meant 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.200 smoky farts. What I'm saying is that that's that's kind 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:25.640 of my smell is smoky. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.640 I like to go smoky. I remember actually. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.880 There was an episode of myth Busters were you guys 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:32.680 did collect your farts in a jar? 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.160 There was we did a lot of farts are funny. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.240 They are I totally agree. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.880 I always killed but they but they I do remember 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.160 because I remember seeing you doing sit ups and Adam 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.600 doing sit ups and catcows and stuff like that to 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.719 try and collect to see how much was so much 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.120 gas a human creates in a day or something. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.600 I don't know. It was some it was fantastic. I 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:57.160 remember that. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.440 There was a lot of things that I think I 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.839 worked on them. And do girls fart? 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:06.120 I mean wow, that made it as far as the show. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.720 Girls, I mean yeah, it was a bunch of mini myths. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.280 And that one they raked up a pair of hydrogen 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.640 sulfide detecting panties. 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.040 Hey, when Jamie says panties, it freaks me out. 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.640 Yes, I'm in London right now, so you can say pants, mean. 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:28.320 I can say pants. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.640 Yeah, yeah, well, pants, and then then it will be underpants. 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.200 But if you said it's a whole thing, you know 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.960 how it is. Tell me that though, when before you 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.240 were in because I know I met you when you 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.280 were doing MythBusters because I have such a fan of 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.120 the show. And then you guys came down and we 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:49.680 started kind of hanging out and stuff like that. But 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.960 before your life in myth Busters, I mean you were 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.079 straight out of college, right. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:57.480 No ish? 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.440 I So after college, I packed a backpack and I 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:02.280 traveled around. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.680 The world for about a year. No way did she 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.160 get country to country. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.520 I started going west from California, so I left San 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:15.199 Francisco and yeah, I almost said that year, Okay, this 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:16.320 is going to date me up. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.480 In nineteen ninety eight, I left and. 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:25.199 I went to Rare Tonga and Fiji and New Zealand, Australia, 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:30.880 worked my way up through Bali, through Southeast Asia, Japan, India, nepoal. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.520 Worked my wayward to Europe and down to Egypt. 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.960 A couple of times, I just I just kind of 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.199 kept moving. And I started out the trip with another girl, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.240 and then a couple of countries in we split off 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:42.960 and did our own things. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.280 So I was traveling alone a lot and making friends 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:46.400 along the way and lazies. 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.400 You have a door, would you would you let your 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:49.000 door do that? 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:49.360 Then? 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.760 I feel like at that age she would be an adult. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.440 And it was the most transformative educational experience I ever had. 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.360 I feel like my entire life has been shaped around 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:05.760 the mission to build bridges and connect with people and 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:11.040 just feel that humanity. And I learned so much about 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.559 myself in the world. And you know, when I left college, 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.600 I was still in that sort of like crazy phase, 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.880 and I feel like it grounded me in a really 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:19.600 interesting way. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.920 And how did you go to college? What did you study? 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.520 San Francisco State. I wanted to go for film sculpture. 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.760 I just something laraty at the time, which is how 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.040 I kind of ended up that come. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.280 From your parents? Then? Were you an arty family? 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.640 No, I mean the Byrons. 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:40.280 Well, I mean I mean, but Byron was first of all, 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.760 He's Scottish and I think he was a bit of 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.920 a bit of a drunk actually. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.640 Byron, Oh, yeah, he was. 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.120 He was wild. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.440 I mean, I am not entirely proud of some of 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:59.079 the things that that side. His father brought, uh, venereal diseases, 0:13:59.120 --> 0:13:59.960 to like the cook eye. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.400 I think that I think there's been a lot of 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:03.480 a lot of mayhem. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.079 But he would he. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:09.160 Would definitely be canceled now Byron. There's no way he 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.840 had survived in social media, no way. There's so many 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.200 people know that would not have survived that. 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:16.040 Uh. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.320 Although I don't know, you canceled a drunk poet, but 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:23.400 probably you don't drunk put with the title. Well that's it, 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.040 You're canceled. I don't care. 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.920 I don't think it would matter. But the fact I have. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.680 A lot of bastard children. He had one child that 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.640 he claimed. Now this is this is sort of the 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.720 the ancestor that I tell my kid about because I 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.760 was so proud. So he had a daughter, Ada of Lovelace, 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.200 who she was really sick when she was young, and 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.600 her mother was not into Lord Byron. So she she 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.760 stole her way and tried to break the poetry out 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.040 of her with math. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:57.640 She made her study. 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.320 Math, so kind of like praise the way, but with 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:01.560 math that's crazy. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.600 Yeah, she's just like, I'm going to get all the 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.280 RT out of you. I'm going to I'm going to 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:06.040 train you in math. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:10.720 So when this woman grew up, she hooked up with 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.280 this guy Charles Babbage, who was and they created He 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.320 had created a counting machine like a giant calculator, and 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:24.000 she used that machine as an application to create rugs 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.760 with pictures on them. She was sort of the grandmother 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.320 of computer science because she's the one that figured out 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.000 with all those ones and cereals you can create. So 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.040 we wouldn't have I don't think computers today if it 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.640 wasn't for that connection between our science. 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.440 So she's the revolutionary. 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:43.960 Yeah, that is fascinating. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.720 It was also, I mean, the idea that math would 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.000 push the r of someone as such a ridiculous notion. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.520 You think of Leonardo da Vinci, who is pretty much 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.880 a mathematician who did are or an artist mathematician and 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:02.440 pretty good one, not as well and probably gay. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:04.920 I've heard that, I've. 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.320 Heard, Yeah, I think so. I think. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.880 I think back then the sexuality in medieval Italy, Middle 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.000 Ages and Netlie it was like, you know whatever, you know, male, 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.640 it's a fluid, Hey, what's the coming ago? It doesn't matter, 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:21.840 everything is fine. So you leave there and you go 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.680 with me. How did you end up? You just went 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.200 to metaphors? This as an intern job that was because 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:30.080 because of the connection with industrial light and magic, right, 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.040 was that the thing you wanted at the time? 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.240 Uh, MythBusters wasn't there. So I just got a job 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:37.040 for Jamie. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.640 Oh it was just Jamie. You was just wanting for Jamie. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.080 How did you meet Jamie for Good's Day? I mean, Jay, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.000 I can't imagine. Jamie's a person that you would meet socially. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.160 How did you how they held you bump into Jamie? 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:48.960 Yeah, it wasn't socially. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:50.440 No, I can't imagine. 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.440 So he had sort of a general manager of his 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.400 shop that was teaching a sculpting for special effects class 0:16:58.440 --> 0:16:59.320 to college kids. 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.240 And one of my friends at that class. 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.280 And he was like, oh, Carrie would love this, like 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.800 it's this incredible workshop. Like you should go hit him 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:09.480 up and see if you can get an internship because 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.359 this is what you've been trying to do. And I 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.720 heard he gets everybody their first job. So I put 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.560 together a portfolio and he, you know, introduced me to 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:22.520 Jamie and the next day I was back. I mean, 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.400 I had a job as a receptionist and I called 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:28.440 in sick. I just started showing up at Jamie's shop, 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:30.320 like just in case Jamie was going to throw me 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.040 out because you know, at first he wasn't really that 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.400 impressed with me. I have to say, he was just. 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.040 Like some guy to impress, you know, I mean, it. 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:39.600 Takes a minute. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:40.560 It takes a minute. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.120 What happened though with myth Busters, it's such an odd 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.600 thing because it was such a strange. I always felt 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.320 very connected to myth Busters. I always thought that the 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.560 late night show that I'm myth Busters were kind of 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:01.800 out of the same thing. They were anomalies, They shouldn't 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.000 really have happened, they shouldn't really have been successful. 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.960 But they both were by people who kind of like. 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:13.680 Drifted into it for kind of sideways and the idea 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:18.000 of you know, when you became you know, visible and 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:19.960 famous and stuff like that. Because this sounds like to 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:21.920 me that that was something that you were cultivating or 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:23.080 even wanted to be part of. 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.000 So I know, you said I looked like I was 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.919 comfortable on camera, but I was not. I was a 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:33.480 shy person, right that pretends to be extroverted. So, I 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.560 mean it was hard at first. 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.159 Yeah, I think it first, but it kind of it 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:41.000 gets easier right then, you get it didn't get easier 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:41.400 over time. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:42.919 I mean how long you guys did that show for 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.600 for ten years? Yeah? 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:45.359 Over ten years? 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.879 Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it becomes a thing. And 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.920 then Grant coming in. He came in in season two 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:55.560 or something else, season three, is that right? 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:57.560 Don't remember what season? 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:01.399 Seasons are difficult for me because I was wild West 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.600 of Networks and you know, we made more than three 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:06.879 hundred and fifty episodes, but like the first season of 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.560 MythBusters was like three episodes, and then the second was 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.800 like ten, and then they realized our contracts only needed 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.280 to be renegotiated per season, so all of a sudden, 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.560 the season would be thirty six episodes. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:21.400 Oh man, that's awful. That's awful. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.359 Do you still what I mean, what does it look 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:28.520 like now post MythBusters? Well, I mean we lost Grint, 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:32.520 which was such a terrible, terrible shock, I mean, just awful, 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.040 and everyone seems to be doing rather well likely, you know, 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.439 I mean you now have that you're like you're the 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:41.760 science thing that you do? 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:42.680 What is that? 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.320 So? You know, after MythBusters, Tory and I tried and 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.480 tried to come up with other shows that we might 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.200 do the same thing or give us this great experience, 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.959 and you know, nothing took off past the season, but 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.240 you know, we were friends and we want to just keep. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.120 Working, you know, if you want to scoop right now. 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.399 The reason that I'm setting up the studio and it 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.800 looks so blank right now is that Tory and I 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.920 might be pre production putting together a podcast. 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.560 Oh that's a great idea. I mean, of course that's 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:15.760 the way to do it now as well. I mean, 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.640 I mean, obviously you can have this podcast. I'm I'm 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.479 going to do this until my contracts up, and now 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:21.399 I'm not doing it anymore. 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.360 Then, Yeah, I would I like. 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.520 To quit things. I just like to Ah, it's enough 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:28.399 of that to try your career. 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.119 Yeah, my god, it's enough of that. 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:33.640 We can try something else now. 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:35.800 But so what would you do in the pot if, 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:40.480 hypothetically you and the Great Salvatory Belichi we're going to 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.919 do a podcast together and I'll have to get one 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:45.800 that's or else you'd be mad at me, And also 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.680 I would like to talk to them. But what would 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.600 you do in your podcast if you were going to 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:51.640 do a podcast with Tori? 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.320 So we had always said with you know, the real 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:57.680 show was never what you guys saw the real show 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:02.120 was the hilarity behind the scenes because we were all friends. 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.159 I mean, we were pranking each other. We were talking 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:06.760 about weird stuff that we saw. 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.440 We're like, oh my god, did you see that thing 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:09.480 about the zombie ants? 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.560 You know, we would spend all this time with the 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:15.160 weirdness of trying to produce the show. You know, hey, 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:16.840 can you give us a cow stomach? With all the 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.000 ventricles attached? Like, there's so many behind the scenes stories, 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.560 plus all of the weird intricacies of the conversations that 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.320 we would have. So it's basically going to be like, 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:30.359 what's going on now? What things interest us? Relate it 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.480 possibly to something back on MythBusters, because that's our shared 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.960 history and we have so much of it. And then 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:40.440 you know, maybe talk to some experts about things like cryogenics, 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.560 Like let's go talk to a professor that can tell us, 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:45.359 if it's possible. 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:46.880 Do you know anything about cryogenics. 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:49.439 Look, I'm sixty two years old, though, carry so I 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:52.560 know I'm kind of much more interested in cryogenics than 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.560 I used to be when I was I'm. 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.760 Going to be honest with you, it's like trying to 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.720 make a cow out of Hamburger's. 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.520 Yeah, it's not going to work. 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.720 It's not going to work, all right, Well back to 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:12.000 philosophy then, so what about the singularity? What about putting 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:17.280 the human personality into the machine that the ds X machina. 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:20.359 Is that going to happen? Can you get inside the machine? 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.480 Can humans live as. 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:28.160 I am not an expert. I am somebody who likes 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.920 to talk to experts. I think that we're not going 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:33.960 to be able to do that because the mysteries of 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.440 all the electricity that happens to us and why it happens. 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:41.080 I mean, we're just these electrified meat puppets that you know, 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:42.639 it's a mystery why we exist. 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:44.359 I don't think that that's going to happen. 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:49.960 But I am incredibly impressed by what AI is doing. 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:50.880 And I have a lot of friends. 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:52.879 I live in the Silicon Valley and I have a 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.400 lot of friends in DC and all of the policy 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.320 I have know. I know people in AI that are 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:03.720 you know, the luminaries, and they are hopeful, they are fearful, 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.120 and they are astounded by how quickly it's developing. And 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:10.480 now AI through the Internet. It's not just AI talking 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.440 to us, it's AI talking to each other. So there's 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.080 just this whole undercurrent of robots talking to each other, 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:18.280 and it's the thinking is getting. 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:24.159 Human can we can we can we conduct surveillance. So 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.800 in these robots as they talk to each other, presumably 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:28.200 they're not keeping secrets. 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:30.640 No, I don't think they're hiding it. I don't think 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:33.840 we would fully understand it, but they. I mean Deep 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.680 Seek is the latest AI to come out, and really 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:40.639 really yeah, I was really interested in this because it 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.439 shows you it's thinking and how it comes to its conclusions, 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:46.639 which is it's a little different and it's so human 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.840 in the way that it relates. I think that that's 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.800 what's so interesting to me is that people are trying 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.800 to make it have humanity so that it can connect 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:58.719 with you better, so that you can feed the beasts, 0:23:58.720 --> 0:23:59.960 so you can give it more material. 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:02.040 It's it's it's. 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:04.480 Wildly interesting, but it also only can feed off of 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:07.679 what we give it, so right, I do think that 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:11.400 humans in their creativity, if you don't put it online, 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.000 it doesn't have it. 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.879 Yeah, or just take the battery out. I mean I 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.119 always thought that, but terminators. 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.840 Like just don't plug it for God's sake, kill the battery. 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:25.160 Just get the battery over there, or pour some water 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:27.920 on it every time you like, drop it in the toilet. 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:29.880 That's said, that will take care of it. 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.800 But the just flush the terminator. 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:34.320 Flushinators, take it in the. 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.640 Toilet, blush it like an old high school movie. 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:38.760 Look look, terminator. What's that that looks like? 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.720 I think John Connor's and the toilet terminator and then 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.119 was swirly and you're done. 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:46.240 I think that. 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.520 I think that there's so much talk about it though 0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:52.919 the AI have. I mean every conversation I have with 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:54.960 everybody right now, at some point, if you talk to 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.000 anyone for more than ten minutes, you're talking to them 0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:57.600 about AI. 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:01.640 Once you get past you know, the like or whatever. 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:06.000 And I'm fascinated because most people I talk to are 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:09.200 quite afraid of it. But these are the people who 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.960 don't use it. People who use it are not afraid 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.240 of it at all. I talked to it, I mean 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:18.000 a surgeon who was like, Oh, this is the greatest 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:22.040 leap for surgery. This is amazing, this start, I mean, 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.200 this is just it's changing the game. We're going to 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.800 be able to save so many more lives with this 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:28.160 kind of technology. 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.560 I mean, he's really gung o about it. He loved it. 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.439 I mean, it's like any technology that little, you know, 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.760 iPhone in my hand revolutionize my life. I have so 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:40.199 much more connectivity. But it's also something that sucks me 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:41.280 into the light. You know. 0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:42.920 Yeah, it's time. 0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.160 But I mean that's if you're talking to people are afraid. 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:50.600 I'm thinking that you're mostly talking to adults who came 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:51.640 up without it. 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.520 I really have two children, and one of them already 0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:57.919 is an adult. So yeah, I talked to one child 0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:02.200 pretty much that's it. He's fourteen, so I mean he's 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.520 not afraid of that at all. Yeah, of course, right. 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.600 But I'm so one of you were asking post MythBusters. 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.040 I am currently the director of the National Stem Festival, 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:15.280 which is basically the nation's science fair, right, and a 0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:18.720 lot of these kids are using AI machine learning in 0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:23.720 such interesting ways to try to come up with solutions 0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:27.760 to big challenges around the world. I mean everything from uh, 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.879 there's this kid Tyler in Connecticut who's come up with 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:41.880 a cost effective test that can find iodine deficiencies, and 0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:45.040 all of the data that comes from that is going 0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:49.880 to actually create a base for us to understand why 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.280 millions of people have an iodine deficiency. And he's come 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:57.720 up with a two dollars saliva based color metric test 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.280 that can you know, you can send it in and 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.800 get results quickly and find out if you have an 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:04.840 iodine deficiency. 0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.919 Well would why would that be important about having an 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:08.919 ida in deficiency? 0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:10.600 What would that do to you if you're an iida 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:11.280 in deficiency. 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:15.439 There's also some sorts of like neurological and physical issues 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:19.800 that come from any sort of deficiency. I mean, some 0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.200 of these kids are using it for like last year, 0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.760 there was this one girl who used pictures of eyes 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:30.760 and the machine learned to be able to detect if 0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.280 you had anemia. Because anemia is a real problem. It 0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.680 can create all kinds of problems, especially if you're sick 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.200 and old. And her grandmother had anemeia and it was undiagnosed. 0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:42.359 So she came up with a way for machine learning 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.840 to predict anemia through pictures of your eyes. 0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:46.480 I mean, that's pretty cool. 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.520 So non invasive kind of testing like that, I mean, 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.480 and presumably then if you can do it from an 0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.480 eye scan, you can do it from a computer. Because 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.480 like I'm in Britain right now and they have socialized 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:02.080 medicine here, and they're, oh is struggling about trying to 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:05.640 get people into offices and having the right amount of people. 0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.520 So I guess if you can test people using machinery 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.600 so that you know, you can scan the idea of 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.280 having a medical done by a robot. 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.080 I quite like that idea, especially the prostate example. 0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.040 I feel like that would probably be if there was 0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.760 a way to do that. Well, it is done digitally, 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:27.919 I suppose, but it's a different type of but if 0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:29.600 there was a way to do it that it was, 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.919 you know, a little less I don't know, if it 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.680 was a little more camera ish, I'd be up for that. 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.000 Okay, I'll put it out all these genius kids and 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:39.400 see if somebody can come up with something. 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.120 Get your your kiddie think tank going and say, look, 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.280 I'm feeling like testing is the key. 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.200 Early detection is the key on all of these things, right, 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.000 So I'm. 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:52.560 Not just talking about that though, I'm sort of like 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:55.320 any illness early detection, right, you know, if you know early, 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:59.920 you can do something about it. I feel like the 0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:04.680 development of vaccines seems to kind of go hand in 0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:06.720 hand with that as well. These kind of weird new 0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:10.400 vaccines that they're developing, That people are talking about vaccines 0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.720 for cancerous conditions now and stuff like that. You know, 0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.520 I think that's incredible to me that that kind of 0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:19.160 thinking is going on. Is that Do you see a 0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.200 lot of that in the young people that you talk to, 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:24.440 because obviously if you're doing that, that they are embracing 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.120 the AI in a way that older people just don't 0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:29.040 or can't. 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:29.880 Yeah. 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.800 I mean I feel like they're just using it as 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.880 a tool like any other tool. I mean, they're coming 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:41.000 up with apps that find early Parkinson's markers or I 0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.400 mean even in twenty sixteen when I did the White 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.000 House Science for there was a girl who had figured 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:51.040 out a way to diagnose cancer early using computer modeling. 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:52.640 I mean, they've been doing this for a while. 0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.360 And if you think of it as a tool rather 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:59.840 than the evil robot that's coming for your information, it's 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.880 it's less scary. Yeah. 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.520 I wonder about all that kind of the rule boat 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.880 want your information now? I mean that do you worry 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:09.920 about that? Do you worry about data harvest thing in 0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:10.480 your own life? 0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:10.960 You do? 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.840 You have firewalls put up? I mean your computer savy, 0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:14.960 you know how to do all that. 0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:18.160 I do my best, but honestly, I think it has 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.840 it all anyway, because I'm also somebody who's shops online. 0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.480 Yeah, I love that. 0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.320 Yeah, I totally agree. 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.680 I mean, if one, if one piece of the machinery 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:29.720 has it, it all has it? You go in a 0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.920 store to buy a pack of gum or something, They'll say, 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.040 can we have your email address? Like you have it? 0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.200 You have it, Just let me scan my card and 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.560 it will come up. You already have all that information. 0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.040 It's interesting to me, though, because I think of you. 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.680 Last time I saw you in San Francisco when you came. 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.280 I was doing a show and you came and you 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.880 had turned up in one of those self driving cabs, 0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.360 which I still haven't done yet. 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:59.080 Is that freaky? Do you kind of okay with it? 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:00.320 Okay? 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:04.080 I granted I have been here in a beta testing 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:08.480 city for Waimo for Cruise for Zookes for years now, 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.600 so I was in some of the early prototypes of 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.520 Waimo way back in the day, and I was part 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.840 of the test program. I signed up immediately to try 0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:23.040 these because I'm a super curious person and I just 0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.640 I wanted to know more. So I interviewed and talked 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.320 to all kinds of people that made the cars, and 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:33.680 we're creating them. And you know, they hire hackers and 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.560 they hire all sorts of people to try to to 0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.040 muck it up, to see if they can actually throw 0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.280 the cars off track. But the last time I got 0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.920 into a rideshare vehicle, I had a driver that had 0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.840 a movie going on over here. I was talking on 0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.080 a phone here, had me in the back seat. I 0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:53.920 was driving a little bit crazy. Right. 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.560 Yeah, I'm not going to say that that's the rule, 0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:57.080 but you. 0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:58.960 It happens when you look at me. 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.400 Yeah, when you look at the robot car, it's got 0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.600 over sixty cameras light our radar. It has a three 0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:10.280 sixty view going on that you can actually see, which, 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.480 by the way, they only put that up for you 0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:12.920 to see. 0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:14.040 The car doesn't need it. 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:15.680 It just wants to show you, Like I can see 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.680 that cat running out into the street. I can see 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.880 that bicyclist over there. It's not going to hit anything 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.000 if it can help it, Like it's it's paying so 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.360 much more attention. It doesn't have to worry about fog 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.400 or rain or night like a lot of people can't 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.560 see it at night as well. The robo can like, 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.560 it's got the instrumentation, it has to follow the laws. 0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:39.440 It's for example, like say like. 0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:45.560 A person wanders out enter the road, and the option 0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.400 the car has is to either hit the person or 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.200 drive off the road and hurt you. 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:52.520 What does it choose? 0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:57.080 Okay, it doesn't have the morals to make those decisions. 0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.000 But I don't know that I can answer this with 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:03.640 any expertise, because I think you have to ask them 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.400 on this one, right, Okay. I do know that it's 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.400 going to try to avoid conflict altogether and stop. I 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.880 don't think that there is a well I can relate 0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.120 to exactly. 0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.000 I was like, oh no, it's fine, I'm fine, I'm 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:19.360 fine if it's okay. 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:21.840 I mean, what would you do if your choice was 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.600 to run into this person or that person? Like you're 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:26.600 going through the calculations of how to get out of it. 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.400 I'm pretty sure that the robot has it because it's 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.400 AI machine learning constantly and it's been training in places 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.800 like San Francisco is a place to drive roads all 0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:42.600 over There's there's there's things everywhere like yeah, people on 0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.400 the streets. I mean, you couldn't throw it in a 0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:49.440 more chaotic situation, so it is learned, like how to 0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:51.800 maybe go this way and avoid everything. 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:56.080 I rented a Tesla truck in Phoenix a couple of 0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.080 weeks ago. I was doing a show there and and 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.040 Tamas and I rented a test split truck and we 0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.520 put it in self drive to take us around. 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.520 And it was freaky, and. 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:10.000 At one point I I intervened because I thought it 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.399 was going to hit a car, and it was. There 0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.839 was some debate between Tomas and I to master thought 0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:15.640 it was going to hit the car. 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:16.960 I thought it was going to hit the car. 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.040 But then I thought I should have given it the 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.640 chance to not hit the car, but I just didn't. 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.719 But I want, I mean, you're right about you know, 0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:32.360 the distractedness of drivers, like you know, human drivers, people 0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:36.160 texting people on their phones, people you know, doing stuff. 0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.480 It probably is a better driver. 0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.040 Right, And but where am I going to get if 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:44.680 I'm in a taxi but it doesn't have an actual driver? 0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.800 Where do you do I get my racist opinions from 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:49.960 I would be able to get my racist opinions from 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:50.680 a cab driver? 0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:52.120 Where will I get them? 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:56.080 If only there's still the Internet in your hand, you 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:57.520 can TikTok that if. 0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.480 You like, I'll be able to get my ras from 0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:01.440 other places. 0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.000 Yeah, there's plenty. There's plenty, there's. 0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:08.160 Been, there is plenty. But I feel like it is 0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.839 an interesting thing. How do you use it in your life? 0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.040 Now? Would you use it for AR? Do you use 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:14.480 it for R? Is that? 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.879 Well? Like you, if you're creating a sculpture, would you 0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.680 take the would you would you bring in an it? 0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:25.160 Would you get AI to help you conceptualize it or 0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:29.040 or or maybe even make models for you? 0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:29.279 No? 0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:31.920 I mean for me, all our work is for me 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.480 to go through some sort of journey of curiosity. So 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.880 I don't need any I don't need any assistant. But 0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.080 what I do use AI for is when I don't 0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:43.600 understand something. And okay, so National STEM Festival right right? 0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:47.800 These kids, we find kids from every state and territory. 0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.640 We try to find a representation from all over the country. 0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.240 So it's going to be the best of the best kids. Okay, 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:57.440 some of their projects, when I'm when I'm reading the champions, 0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:02.480 I don't understand them. They are so complex. I have 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:06.719 literally taken the text from one of their projects and 0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.799 put it through AI and said, can you explain this 0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.800 as if I am a twelve year old. Oh wow, 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.360 it will explain the science of their project to me 0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.400 so that I can understand it. 0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:23.800 And they are, you know, seven through twelfth graders. 0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:28.200 So I'm currently using AI to help me be a 0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.520 better person, be a smarter person. 0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:40.520 I very much relate to that. I get to this thing. 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:44.160 Recently, I listened to audio books all the time on 0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.520 my phone. I find it very like i'm driving or 0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.879 if I'm can't sleep. It's like it because you can 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.160 like and be off and you can listen, and it's 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.680 like because I have who I am. I listened to 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:57.560 this book, a biography of Socrates, because I thought I 0:36:57.560 --> 0:36:59.480 should know about Socrates more than I do, and it 0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.359 was a biography about so Cracis, and I thought, that 0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.040 is the best biography. 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:05.560 I'm so helpful. 0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.120 And then I saw it was, you know, a biography 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:12.600 for young people. It was for it was for teens, 0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.960 and I was like, ah, jeez, But it helped, you know, 0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.800 I understood it a bit more. They simplified it a little. 0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.239 And maybe I'm not as smart as I thought I was. 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:26.240 Well, I mean, on MythBusters when we were making the show, 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:29.759 I think The reason was so successful is because, like 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:33.200 I am not a scientist, so I'd have to hear 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:37.279 the complicated story and then be able to relate it 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.759 in a simple way. So I would I would hear 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.920 it until I could understand, you know, a scientific principle 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:44.920 and so that I could explain it. So we used 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.000 to say, if you want to explain something to a 0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.239 thirty five year old, explain it like they're twelve. And 0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:50.839 if you want to explain it to a twelve year old, 0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:55.120 explain it like they're thirty five, because we always underestimate 0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.520 young people and overestimate us. 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:00.400 It's very poignant and very true. 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.600 And I wonder, given that, the interaction that you're having 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:07.480 currently with young people and you know, the does it 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:11.480 make you because you hear so much derision heaped on 0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:14.880 the young right now about their terrible generation and with 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:19.560 their being having pronouns and what this and all that, 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.920 and people from my generation and younger just heap so 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:29.919 much hate on the young. Does it make you optimistic 0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.839 or are you? Are you more optimistic dealing with kids 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:34.840 or are we right? Are they all a bunch of 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:38.680 fundamentalist douchebags? 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.840 I think any group of people that you brush with 0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:46.880 these grand broad strokes, It's going to be easy and 0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.680 reductive to come up with your ideas. 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.799 Madam. That's true. Actually, you're right, it is. 0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:57.600 You know, sweeping generalizations are the basis of old fascism, 0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:58.720 I suppose. 0:38:58.320 --> 0:38:59.680 Are Let me tell you this. 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.440 If you need a moment of hope, if you need 0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:07.160 a moment to feel like we're gonna be okay, really 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:10.280 listen and and and hear what these kids are doing 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:15.359 and saying. They are solution seekers and innovators, and they 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:18.359 are looking to problems instead of like, oh my god, 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.160 this is crushing, this is awful. How am I going 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.440 to wake up tomorrow? They're like, huh, what can I 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.520 do about this? What can I do about this this 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:30.440 particular problem myself? And it's it's beautiful to see the 0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.640 hope that they have, and I think hope it gets 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.440 hope and all of a sudden, everybody's feeling a little 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:39.279 bit better about their neighbor. I mean, we were just 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.440 as a species, we were created to be tribal. You know. 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.000 I I'm at my high school. 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:46.920 Think the high school over there is terrible, and they 0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:48.160 think the word terrible. 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:52.400 Exactly. 0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:56.480 And the Internet has created just bigger tribes, and so 0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:01.240 it's become a little it's become a little divisive and angry. 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.560 And if you fall into that and stop realizing that 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:08.960 we're all of the same tribe, that we all really 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:10.279 want the same things. We want to know where our 0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.239 next meal is coming from, we want to know that 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.320 our family is safe and healthy, and we want a 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:18.960 roof over our heads. Anything beyond that doesn't matter, and 0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:22.320 we all want that that we're all just the same. 0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:26.240 And you start looking like mister Rogers for the helpers 0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.480 and start looking towards these kids that are trying to 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.319 solve the biggest problems of the world, it just it 0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.680 makes you feel good and it makes you feel like 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.120 you want to be one of the helpers. And for me, 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:41.080 since I'm not one of these brilliant scientist kids, I 0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:45.560 am going to amplify their stories. I am helping get 0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:47.680 them on their local news stations so that they can 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.440 create hope in these little pockets all over the country. 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.480 I want to elevate them on a national stage, which 0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:58.480 is why this is the National STEM Festival, so that 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:03.000 politicians and industry leaders and everybody can support them and 0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.480 hear their stories and maybe take that hope back to. 0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:08.120 Where they are and create more hope. 0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:11.360 I really feel like this small sea, this stem festival 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.400 that we're creating is going to have this incredible ripple 0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:18.680 effect of just creating more and more positivity. And who 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:22.759 knows if this kid in New York who's learning how 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:27.360 to gamify some sort of issue over hear me so 0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:29.440 a kid in Kansas, and the two of them come 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.720 together in the future and we've created this little community 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.279 and all of a sudden, they're curing cancer. I just 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.640 I feel like there's ways that you're going to look 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.560 at the youth and it's going to make you feel 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.879 good about the world. Turn off the news and start 0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:45.560 looking to the kids. 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.319 That's very encouraging. It's very encouraging. And I think I 0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.680 agree with you. I think that the human mind has, 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:58.480 for the most part, a magnifying quality. What I think 0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:01.760 it does is if you if you look at something, anything, 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.319 you look at, it magnifies it. It's part of the 0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:06.799 process that I think we go through. So if we 0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:10.400 look at the problem, we magnify the problem. If we 0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:14.600 look at the potential solution, we magnify the potential solution. 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:16.080 And I think it's an emotive thing. 0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:19.040 Like if I concentrate on what and this is where 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:25.239 I think social media is misleading because the algorithm will 0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:29.480 give you what it thinks you want and actually maybe 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.880 that's what you wanted a thought process to go. But 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:35.719 now like if you if it's thinking, oh, I want 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:38.120 to look at fights, I want to look at street fights, 0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:39.640 I want to look at more street fights. I'm going 0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.480 to more and more street fights, and the algorithm will 0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:46.200 do that, Whereas what you need is you need to 0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:48.160 stop looking at that and you need to look at 0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:52.000 how people don't do that. And I think what's very 0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.160 encouraging about what you're doing is the fact that you're 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:59.960 concentrating on the solution, you know, I which is interesting 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.879 because if you take an engineering mind, an engineering mind 0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:07.359 looks at the problem. It concentrates on the problem and 0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.840 we'll find the solution from the problem. 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.040 But I think an artist's mind. 0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:16.200 Looks at the solution and does the solution. It doesn't 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.400 look at the problem. Does is just going straight to 0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:21.040 the solution. Let's have the solution. And I think they're 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:26.520 both essential. I think these different different ways of looking 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:29.560 at the world does duality. I think it's essential. It's 0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.319 very helpful. I think that people like you are doing that. 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:35.960 It's great that you became famous in science y, even 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:39.080 although you were just an intern trying to get Jovid 0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.960 to it was very I love. 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:43.640 About the world. To me, it really did. 0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.359 It kind of showed me how science and art are 0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:50.560 so similar. And I think I became just a super 0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.960 stem advocate just because I saw how positive an impact 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.600 that MythBusters could have on kids, and I think kind 0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.400 of led them into these careers. And I was just like, 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.040 Oh my gosh, how do we earnest that, how do 0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:05.000 we make you know, mythbustery inspiration happened with lots of 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:07.319 kids and then just you know, one thing led to 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:07.840 the next. 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.880 And the way that this. 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.400 Festival came about is I was interviewing people itself by 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:17.600 Southwest and I was interviewing the Secretary of Education, and 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:19.759 I'm like, oh, I've got this opportunity. 0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:21.000 I'm going to corner this guy. 0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:25.080 So I was like, listen, I hosted the White House 0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:26.839 Science Fair and it hasn't existed for a. 0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:28.920 Decade, and I want it back. How do we make 0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:29.560 that come back? 0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.640 Tell me you're going to bring it back and it 0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:33.120 kind of. 0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.360 I got him to offer on camera. 0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:41.160 That you know, if I would build it, he would 0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:44.840 let me take the keys. And so this this entire 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:48.080 thing has just sort of sprouted into this is the 0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:54.120 second year of it, and want to star science, science, Technology, engineering, 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:58.080 and math. I like to say science fair, but but 0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.279 STEM Festivals seemed like it was more encompassing for a 0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.840 lot of kids, so we went with that. But you know, 0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.680 I did my research. I went and found all of 0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.400 the people that worked on the first science fair that 0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:11.680 I had hosted with Bill and I, and they said 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.320 that their one regret was that they tied it to 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:18.879 an administration so that it became partisan and that makes 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:23.400 it go away when another administration comes in. So we decided, 0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.000 my business partner Jenny Bucos and I that we were 0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:29.879 going to take that aspect away, take the politics out 0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:33.359 of it. And so we work in conjunction with all 0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.480 the government agencies, and they are there and they are 0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:38.200 part of it, but nobody owns it. It's completely on 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:41.200 its own. We get all of the funding from the 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:47.680 STEM community, so we actually get businesses. Everyone from Autodesk 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:52.640 to Nokia to GM two, Indy Car are all helping 0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:56.040 US sponsor the festival because they're, you know, creating the 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:58.719 workforce of the future with these kids. So we get 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.920 the whole STEM community to support these kids. We separate 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:06.000 it from government to make it bipartisan, and it's really 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:10.840 just all about supporting brilliance, supporting excellence, and supporting these kids. 0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.960 So it's it's not just focusing on the kids, but 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.560 the entire STEM community is showing up. 0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:21.279 I think it's great. I mean that it's for you. 0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.520 I mean because I know you, and I know you 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:28.560 are not putting on You are relentlessly positive, which is 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.520 which is very interesting to me. Do you never do 0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:34.200 you ever get discouraged? Do you ever feel like, oh, 0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:36.759 fuck this, I can't I kind of listen it. I mean, 0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:39.480 because look, you give me five minutes with a politician, 0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.399 I can I lose the will eleft any of them 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:47.720 any no matter what stripe they have, they're just foul people. 0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.520 They're awful, all. 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.440 The headline grabbers. So I gotta say so. 0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:55.880 One of the things that was always great about MythBusters 0:46:56.000 --> 0:47:00.200 is the audience was very broad, and it was eight 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:01.600 to eighty. It was men and women, it was blue, 0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.279 it was red. We did so many things that just 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:07.280 people communally enjoyed. So you know, it didn't matter where 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.160 I was or who I was talking to, Like I 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:12.440 could walk up to the bluest of the blue or 0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:15.440 the reddest of the red and build some bridges because 0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.279 I do like creating that community of we're all more 0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:19.080 alike than different. 0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:20.680 And so when. 0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:26.400 We as the company that I am founding with Jenny Bucos, 0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:30.080 which is Explore, which is an educational platform, we conceived 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:33.760 of this great idea we wanted to make STEM Week. 0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:39.759 So we probably with math Yes, yes, I love it. 0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:44.279 We want National STEM Week to happen that is just 0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:48.200 celebrating STEM and all things that are STEM. So we 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.719 partnered up with Kosai, which is like the number one 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:54.760 science museum out in Ohio, and we authored this bill 0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:59.520 that went onto the floor, that was introduced by Republicans 0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:03.360 to the floor and is now we're getting both Republican 0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.200 and Democratic support to create the STEM Week Act to 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:06.680 make enough. 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.880 Congratulations. I think you're the only one that's crossing the 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:11.480 floor right now. That's amazing. 0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.040 We're trying, we're trying, We're doing our best, but it's 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:16.440 it's going places because you know, it's not necessarily the 0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.239 headline grammars, it's it's the people that are doing the 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:23.360 work that are really really these they were, they were lovely, 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.560 And I know I was walking into offices all over 0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:29.840 the Capitol Building of different parties, and one thing you 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:36.080 can get behind is smart kids. And I thinking it's 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:37.439 a unifying event here. 0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:38.400 Yeah, yeah, it's. 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:42.080 It's also it's it doesn't seem to me to contain 0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:45.560 a very an obvious polemic right away. I mean, who 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:50.720 can be against kids saving Earth? I think that's okay, 0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:53.759 But I think that's also the plow of space jam. 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:59.520 Oh no, it's cartoon characters saving Earth. But it's very similar. Well, listen, 0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:01.480 should had more time. Well we do have more time 0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:03.680 because we're friends, and I'll talk to you again, but 0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:05.799 we don't have any more time right now for this. 0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:09.200 But I'll be out on the West coast sooner. You're 0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:10.080 gonna be there for a while. 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.480 Yeah, here, So I will come to your show and 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.960 if you could bring your wife, because I will. 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:17.080 I will bring my wife. 0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:21.640 To be honest, when Megan goes somewhere is because she 0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:24.960 wants to go there is I don't bring her anywhere she. 0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:26.319 Goes she wants to go. 0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:27.560 I realize this. 0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:29.799 Yeah, it's I think we know. 0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:33.919 The paradynamic in my house is fairly obvious, and I'm 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:34.400 fine with it. 0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:36.400 I'm very happy with it. 0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:39.160 All right, Well, tons of love to you, Thank you 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:41.879 so much for being on, and i'll speak to you 0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:42.560 very soon. 0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:44.280 I think i'm out there in a couple of weeks. 0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:47.600 I'll give you a show so fantastic. The only reason 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:49.279 I'm doing this podcast so I can just you. 0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:52.719 Know, doing chat and all right, you swear a lot 0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:55.080 less in podcast land, though. 0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:56.680 I'm doing that on purpose. 0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:58.880 Good for you. I'm very impressed. 0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:01.279 I'm a pirate offic I know, I know. 0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:05.200 It's okay. That's okay. You got some of it's going 0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:06.919 to be for you. You've got to have your own thing, 0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.719 all right, get the fuck out of here. All right, 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:11.560 we're done. What do you