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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, says, and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback,
Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It's a
Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're with us, as always, presented by Geico,
Speaker 1: and like I said earlier in the week, it's a
Speaker 1: hashtag say it with your chest every day this week
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys have an opportunity to go to the
Speaker 1: playoffs and win the NFC East, and we're gonna break
Speaker 1: down the game in which they need to win in
Speaker 1: order to go to the playoffs, and that's against the
Speaker 1: New York Giants as they come up on the schedule
Speaker 1: this week and the Cowboys travel to Mettlive Stadium. But
Speaker 1: first let me introduce the crew. As always, it's Isaiah Stanback,
Speaker 1: our residence super Bowl Champion, even though I might take
Speaker 1: that title away this week just based off the fact
Speaker 1: that you want it with the Giants, and so I
Speaker 1: think I might take that away just for the week.
Speaker 1: I'll give it back to you next week whenever the
Speaker 1: Cowboys get a win. We've got Cowboys inside or Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: what was that I said? The rings in the safe
Speaker 1: hold that against me? Okay, Okay, it's in the safe.
Speaker 1: It's not out there on your fingers, so that's good.
Speaker 1: And then we've got our professional football analyst, Heckma Harrison
Speaker 1: as always here on talking Cowboys. I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad
Speaker 1: you're with us, and you know it's a it's a
Speaker 1: fun week, and it's been fun over the last three
Speaker 1: weeks for the Cowboys. I mean, three straight wins. You're
Speaker 1: starting to find a bit of a rhythm and things
Speaker 1: are kind of looking up for the Cowboys, even though
Speaker 1: it's not certain that they're going to make it to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And today I kind of want to bring
Speaker 1: things back down to reality. I want to try and
Speaker 1: find a way to get better from a Cowboys standpoint,
Speaker 1: because even though the Cowboys have had a ton of success, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of ways that this Cowboys team
Speaker 1: can improve going into this final week of the season
Speaker 1: and then of course into what could be the playoffs
Speaker 1: or what could be the twenty twenty one offseason. So
Speaker 1: plenty of things to get to here on this edition
Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys, but I wanted to start off with
Speaker 1: some positive news. As yesterday is Zko Elliott was named
Speaker 1: an award winner on Dallas Cowboys dot com or the
Speaker 1: Pro Football Writers gave Zeke the annual media award, the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty Good Guy Award, as voted on by the
Speaker 1: local chapter of the Professional Football Writers of America. Rob,
Speaker 1: You've had to deal with Zeke, I think more than
Speaker 1: anybody on this show in terms of media and the
Speaker 1: way that he kind of handles himself. What makes him
Speaker 1: stand out as a winner of this award this year.
Speaker 1: He always makes himself available. He's always the first guy
Speaker 1: to talk on Wednesday after their first practice of the week.
Speaker 1: He's always the first guy in the conference call after
Speaker 1: the game, win or lose, no matter if he's got
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards, if he's got three fumbles
Speaker 1: in the game. So you know, that's what a leader does.
Speaker 1: And you know he's not the only guy who does that.
Speaker 1: Dak has won this award in the past. Tyrold Crawford
Speaker 1: has won this award in the past, but I think
Speaker 1: it stands out even more because for his standards, this
Speaker 1: hasn't been a good year for him. He played well
Speaker 1: last week, but I think he would you know, he
Speaker 1: said there's things he hasn't done well this year. So
Speaker 1: to stand in front the media and answer those hard questions,
Speaker 1: he does it week after week after week. Isaiah. Whenever
Speaker 1: it comes to being a player and having to deal
Speaker 1: with the media, it's not really a normal, usual routine thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it usually does provide a little extra emphasis
Speaker 1: to I guess just deal with the media and talk
Speaker 1: to people like me and Rob every single day. But
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to being a player, what were some
Speaker 1: of those challenges that Zeke is now overcome by just
Speaker 1: being one of those guys that's available. Um, I never
Speaker 1: saw it as any challenge, man. I honestly was always
Speaker 1: one to you know, kind of like Zeke and Dak.
Speaker 1: I had no problem being the first one there to
Speaker 1: to speak on behalf of the team. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's an honor to be to want for somebody to
Speaker 1: want information from you. In that regard, you're not only
Speaker 1: representing yourself, you're representing the organization. I was taught early on.
Speaker 1: You know that every time you present yourself on camera,
Speaker 1: you know, you literally that's that's a resume. Everything we
Speaker 1: talk about the resume on the field, that's your resume
Speaker 1: off the field. You know it's setting you up for
Speaker 1: opportunities later on in life. But you also it's the
Speaker 1: responsibility of representing everybody in that locker room. When they're
Speaker 1: asking you about the team. Guess what, you're the one talking.
Speaker 1: You're the one that they're gonna they're gonna write about,
Speaker 1: but you're speaking holistically about everybody else. So, um, I
Speaker 1: don't I've never seen it as any pressure. I've always
Speaker 1: honestly been a little bit um irritated by guys who
Speaker 1: come a ross kind of harshly in a media and
Speaker 1: and and even in my time in New England, you know,
Speaker 1: I respected how Coach Belichick did. He was available, he
Speaker 1: just didn't give you any information. Yeah, And I mean
Speaker 1: going off of kind of the past award winners, and
Speaker 1: Rob had already mentioned a couple of them here, but
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Tyrone Crawford are the more recent members that
Speaker 1: have won this award. Brandon Carr wanted in twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: Jeremy Mincy was a back to back winner. Even des
Speaker 1: Bryant won it back in twenty thirteen. So anybody can
Speaker 1: win this award just based off of the fact that,
Speaker 1: uh that you're available and real with the media. And
Speaker 1: I think Ezekiel Elliott is one of those guys that
Speaker 1: is real. Heck bum because no matter what kind of
Speaker 1: game it was, he's gonna give you the truth and
Speaker 1: he's gonna tell you exactly what he's thinking, even though
Speaker 1: there might be a couple of sprinkled in cuss words
Speaker 1: or things like of the sword or frustration in the
Speaker 1: middle of there. No, I think zekeel take that award
Speaker 1: good guy Award. That's that's a lot. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's good for him. Man. You just think about all
Speaker 1: the other things that's been written about zeke in the
Speaker 1: past and him maturing and that being a part of it.
Speaker 1: And I know this has everything to do with the media,
Speaker 1: and I'm just just kind of linking this into his
Speaker 1: good behavior lately this year. You know, there's been so
Speaker 1: many things that's been said about him, and so for
Speaker 1: him to get the Good Guy Award, I'm sure he'll
Speaker 1: take it. I agree, and congratulations to Zeke on winning
Speaker 1: this award. But let's talk about how to improve for
Speaker 1: this Cowboys team going into this matchup with the Giants.
Speaker 1: It's a noon kickoff coming up this weekend and on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys are gonna have to wait around
Speaker 1: until Sunday Night Football to figure out their NFC East fate,
Speaker 1: So lots of waiting after that's over. Should the Cowboys
Speaker 1: get a win? Now? I want to talk about the
Speaker 1: defense and start things off, because yesterday I went back
Speaker 1: and listen to our show, another good show I thought
Speaker 1: from you guys, and there was a ton of great
Speaker 1: insight and analysis there. But we were really positive, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course there was. There was a ton of positivity.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying the positivity is wrong because they
Speaker 1: forced to tend turnovers over the last three games. But
Speaker 1: there are ways to improve this defense, rob and there's
Speaker 1: ways that the Cowboys could find a way to be
Speaker 1: better defensively because right now there's only what two three
Speaker 1: good players solid above average players on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the football that you could argue. But how did
Speaker 1: they somehow improve this defense? Going into an offensively challenge
Speaker 1: New York Giants team. Well, I think the obvious one
Speaker 1: would be just you have to prevent any type of
Speaker 1: big play down the field. I mean that was the
Speaker 1: big ice or in the game last Sunday was the
Speaker 1: eighty one yard touchdown to Deshan Jackson. And you know
Speaker 1: that was an operation in that game. But we have
Speaker 1: seen that happen at times throughout the season. I looked
Speaker 1: it up, and you know, I think they've had it's
Speaker 1: over a half dozen games where they've had they've given
Speaker 1: up a big play of forty yards or more and
Speaker 1: I stopped there. But there's been plays of sixty yards
Speaker 1: and eighty yards and you go back and look at
Speaker 1: that one and it looked like, yes, maybe Cheeto got beat,
Speaker 1: but there was some communication issues too back there, and
Speaker 1: that's usually what happens, and uh, they've got to lock
Speaker 1: that down. I think that's specific to this matchup because
Speaker 1: this is a Giants team that buy and large does
Speaker 1: not create big plays down the field. They don't really
Speaker 1: create them in the running game, they don't create them
Speaker 1: much in the passing game. And you can't give them something.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't allow them to have a chunk
Speaker 1: play to get a touchdown because I think they're only
Speaker 1: averaging like a touchdown and a half per game right
Speaker 1: now or maybe the entire season. They're just not They're
Speaker 1: not manufacturing points. Heck, no, not at all. I mean
Speaker 1: the lower scoring team in the league is the Giants.
Speaker 1: I think the only time that they've ever scoring scored
Speaker 1: thirty points was against US. Okay, so that's uh back man, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Kyle, I think I think that positivity that
Speaker 1: you're talking about it is that for the first time
Speaker 1: we saw we're not for the first couple of times.
Speaker 1: Now we're seeing our defense get hit and hit back,
Speaker 1: you know. You know, as they even talked about their
Speaker 1: having close to five hundred yards, but the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: having close to five hundred yards, but that was all
Speaker 1: due to the fact that we had a lead and
Speaker 1: obviously we weren't pressing the same. But the numbers at
Speaker 1: the end of the day point to a defense that's
Speaker 1: still struggling with still last in the league against the rush,
Speaker 1: right we're right now, I think passing, we're somewhere around
Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty eight. But then when you turn you
Speaker 1: look at the turnover differential and what we've done with that,
Speaker 1: We've shot all the way up to ten. I believe Rob.
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, please help correct me. But that's that's
Speaker 1: just indicative of how fast things can turn around. And
Speaker 1: luckily for this defense, they have showed up some of
Speaker 1: those problems that they have. You still have the communication
Speaker 1: issues there and you saw that on the bomb to
Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson, but after that, they got a lot of
Speaker 1: that together and we've been on we've been on our God.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith in coverage, I thought he did a pretty day.
Speaker 1: I thought he did a pretty good job in coverage
Speaker 1: against their tight ends and playing underneath, and those are
Speaker 1: just the things that he's gonna have to continue to
Speaker 1: do this week, especially with Ingram and Meantlife Azam Yep,
Speaker 1: totally totally agree. Um, And I didn't mention that yesterday. Heck,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure we gave Jalen Smith some kudos. I know
Speaker 1: we're always on his head beating them down a little bit.
Speaker 1: But he did a heck of a job. I thought
Speaker 1: he was. I thought he was a lot more sound
Speaker 1: in his coverages. I thought he was a lot more
Speaker 1: sticky every time the ball was on the ground. Seemingly
Speaker 1: he was around on the ground with a cover or
Speaker 1: somebody up or jumping on the ball. So I thought,
Speaker 1: I thought he played one of his better games, and
Speaker 1: I think they had I think they had a lot
Speaker 1: to do with his with not only I know Sean
Speaker 1: Lee was rotated in there, but like like I mentioned
Speaker 1: earlier in the week last week, Joe Thomas, you know,
Speaker 1: when he knows somebody else's really a really athletic next
Speaker 1: to him, I feel like he has the freedom to
Speaker 1: go go do more. Um. But I thought they played
Speaker 1: well collectively. Like like I said, they did give up
Speaker 1: too many yards, and you know, as Heckman said, you
Speaker 1: know some of that was was in was in a
Speaker 1: slop time. But it was a pretty competitive game, pretty
Speaker 1: competitive game, and especially we had to come back in
Speaker 1: the first part. So you know, we with those those
Speaker 1: splash plays like like like Rob said, we have to
Speaker 1: do away with those, you can, you can. There aren't
Speaker 1: many teams in this league that are patient and enough
Speaker 1: um and and consistent enough to sustain drives without trying
Speaker 1: to do something outside of themselves. Most teams get they
Speaker 1: won't do the twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen play drives. The
Speaker 1: coordinators just don't have that patience. Most coordinators want to
Speaker 1: take a big shot, and if you cannot, if you
Speaker 1: can be sound in your in your assignments, if you
Speaker 1: can keep everything in front of you and you can
Speaker 1: tackle well like we've been doing and make big hits.
Speaker 1: Whenever you have opportunity, whenever they whenever they decided to
Speaker 1: pull that trigger, that's when you That's when you hop
Speaker 1: an opportunity. That's when the quarterbacks sitting back there a
Speaker 1: little bit longer than he usually does to give your
Speaker 1: alignment more time to get back there. That's when they
Speaker 1: throw all the ball up there because guess what, man I,
Speaker 1: we haven't had a big play all day. We got
Speaker 1: to force it in there, and that's when you get
Speaker 1: the big interceptions and a tip ball. So thats you
Speaker 1: just have to position yourself to be patient enough to
Speaker 1: wait on those opportunities. But you have to play sound
Speaker 1: defense in order to be in those positions. And whenever
Speaker 1: it comes to Daniel Jones, he's not going to be
Speaker 1: one of those quarterbacks that beat him beat you with
Speaker 1: his arm. One percent of the time. He has the
Speaker 1: ability to throw the football, but it's not necessarily his
Speaker 1: strong suit. His strong suit is being able to run
Speaker 1: and having that dual threat ability. Now, Isaiah, I kind
Speaker 1: of want to get your input on something that Rob
Speaker 1: said initially, and that was about the miscommunication on the
Speaker 1: back end in the secondary, and we thought maybe that
Speaker 1: had kind of subsided a little bit. And it's sure,
Speaker 1: it is better than it has been earlier in the season.
Speaker 1: It's not Seattle where it was every two plays either
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett or DK mattcap was running free behind the defense.
Speaker 1: But we saw it again against Philadelphia and de Sean
Speaker 1: Jackson found his way open and there was some miscommunication
Speaker 1: between Cheeto and Treyvon Diggs and there was kind of
Speaker 1: that back and forth. Where does that come from, especially
Speaker 1: at this point in the season, your week's sixteen weeks seventeen,
Speaker 1: should those miscommunication issues start kind of subsiding a little
Speaker 1: bit more so instead of being so obvious on film,
Speaker 1: it should subside. However, it has whenever you're playing top,
Speaker 1: whenever you're playing like like quarters defense, like our defense
Speaker 1: likes to play for whatever reason might know one likes
Speaker 1: to play quarters defense. And we have broken that down
Speaker 1: in the past where every every secondary guy has a
Speaker 1: quarter of the field. Well, when when you run those
Speaker 1: kind of defenses, you leave yourself susceptible to big plays.
Speaker 1: Reason being, quarters coverage is supposed to stop people from
Speaker 1: being or to have big plays against you, right, because
Speaker 1: I have four guys dedicated to kids to stay in deep. However,
Speaker 1: in quarters coverage, the confusion comes when you start running
Speaker 1: over routes, which we tend to see a lot, right,
Speaker 1: Every team has run a lot of over routes on us.
Speaker 1: The reason why that causes problems is because you, as
Speaker 1: a natural instinct, you want to stay with that guy
Speaker 1: that's crossing your face, right, you want to stay with
Speaker 1: that guy he's crossing your face. Oh crap, I can't
Speaker 1: let him go over there. But responsibility wise, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to pass it off, right, You're supposed to pass it off.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to say, hey, hey, man coming across. Right,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, however you communicate. You need to get
Speaker 1: that communicated across. And our guys are still having problems
Speaker 1: with that, and every team is going to keep trying
Speaker 1: us in that regard. We talked about it yesterday in
Speaker 1: film room. Whenever day the guys go to single single high, Kyle,
Speaker 1: you know guys are there, they're going to try to
Speaker 1: flood us. Coach Garrett's gonna try you. He's going to
Speaker 1: try to overload you on that side, and they are
Speaker 1: going to try to stress whoever has the responsibilities of
Speaker 1: that part of the part of the secondary. And this
Speaker 1: is something that we have to continue to work on
Speaker 1: it and it just comes with reps. It comes with overcommunicating.
Speaker 1: When we say over communicating in football, there's no such thing.
Speaker 1: You can't over communicate. I don't care if they know
Speaker 1: what the heck we're doing. Hey watch him, Hey, he's
Speaker 1: coming to your cross. Over communicate so that you can
Speaker 1: make sure that those mistakes don't continue to happen. That's
Speaker 1: that's good stuff and that and that's really important this
Speaker 1: week too, because we got to see what their situation
Speaker 1: is as safety. You know, Darian Thompson had the concussion
Speaker 1: in the game. We'll see what Xavier Woods his status
Speaker 1: is with the ribs injury. So you saw Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: back there. I thought I saw Treyvon It's two. I'd
Speaker 1: have to go back and look at it again. But
Speaker 1: they had to shuffle some things back there, so they
Speaker 1: they may have a different group. You know, and communication
Speaker 1: even more key that way. I'm looking at games in
Speaker 1: which Treyvon Diggs and Cheeta Ousia have played together, and
Speaker 1: I only see three. I see the opening week. Oh no,
Speaker 1: there's four. So first two weeks of the season against
Speaker 1: the Rams and the Falcons, and then the last two
Speaker 1: weeks that we've played in that San Francisco and Philadelphia. So, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: when you're talking about reps and you're you're talking about
Speaker 1: that communication, I mean, that might be one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why there was miss communication between twenty four and
Speaker 1: twenty seven because they've played a grand total of four
Speaker 1: games together. But heckma, whenever you're talking about this this
Speaker 1: secondary and you have that safety up at the top
Speaker 1: of it, and it's a big question mark right now
Speaker 1: with Darry Thompson, and of course guys could potentially get healthy,
Speaker 1: like an Xavier Woods back there, But who would you
Speaker 1: want to see next to Donovan Wilson in the secondary?
Speaker 1: Who would you like to see fill in that role?
Speaker 1: Because I mean, I know there's Reggie Robinson that's been
Speaker 1: back there and has butched the safety. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of different options here, but is there anybody that sticks
Speaker 1: out well? I mean, if for the coaching staff, I
Speaker 1: know that they're locking in their game plan today, Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods would be the senior leader there. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: he knows the defense, and that would be the obvious
Speaker 1: choice for me, is the guy that's been playing in
Speaker 1: that position all year. But just the communication, You're right, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: It's all about these guys overly communicating and establishing that
Speaker 1: during the week so that when you do come to
Speaker 1: the game or you do there is a formation that
Speaker 1: is foreign to you, that you're able to talk your
Speaker 1: way through it in real time. And believe me, those
Speaker 1: guys are hollering and talking to each other the whole
Speaker 1: entire game. And so I just felt like with that
Speaker 1: play and in several plays that teams are going to
Speaker 1: test us with, if these guys, you know, get beat
Speaker 1: on the play, just go back to it, look at
Speaker 1: it on the board, and get it corrected, that's where
Speaker 1: we've gone wrong. And I think that the coaching staff
Speaker 1: has done a really good job of getting that confidence
Speaker 1: in these guys so that they can play fast, play free,
Speaker 1: and assignment sound and so all of those things I
Speaker 1: believe are relative, and I think that's why so equally
Speaker 1: important going into the future for this team, because if
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep the same defensive scheme, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have guys that have played that scheme as well.
Speaker 1: And so look, no, I don't know, like we're only
Speaker 1: dealing with what's going on on Sunday, but like I said,
Speaker 1: just looking into the future and looking at how we're
Speaker 1: gonna play this to the you know, looking into the
Speaker 1: future and how we're gonna play it. Having guys like Cheeto,
Speaker 1: having guys like Digs to be familiar with each other,
Speaker 1: and this being the fifth game that they play together,
Speaker 1: it's going to be very important for that communication that
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Isaiah. I would like to take a
Speaker 1: quick moment to put you on the single cam to
Speaker 1: to have you just plead your case one more time
Speaker 1: for Reggie Robinson to see significant snaps. You got about
Speaker 1: ten seconds here go, Reggie. I need you to come
Speaker 1: up talk to all the coaches and say, hey, give
Speaker 1: me a chance or give me up out here. Now
Speaker 1: I'm saying no, I don't don't say, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: it's a rookie, not guy. No, man, I hope they
Speaker 1: gave him opportunity. I know he's been getting some reps
Speaker 1: here and there. But you know, as you guys said
Speaker 1: early on Hickman, when I said, no, don't throw some
Speaker 1: of these guys out there to the wolves. Don't throw
Speaker 1: these don't you know, just throw this boy in the
Speaker 1: ocean to see if he can sit. He didn't have,
Speaker 1: though he did have the punch out right on. He did,
Speaker 1: he did, yes, and CJ was out of bounds to
Speaker 1: recover it by just one toe. And it got me thinking,
Speaker 1: it's like, man, he did that kind of stuff at Tulsa,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what they're seeing in practice, because
Speaker 1: like we couldn't seen him on special teams maybe a
Speaker 1: little sooner, if not safety, maybe special teams. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe he's just a gamer. He's just a gamer. Guys.
Speaker 1: We just gotta find a way to be a gu
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Speaker 1: Cowboys got the best of the Giants the first time around,
Speaker 1: even though they left with kind of those bubble guts
Speaker 1: that we talked about oh so often on this show.
Speaker 1: Thirty seven thirty four was the win against the Giants.
Speaker 1: They won that game thanks to a game winning drive
Speaker 1: from Andy Dalton. However, they lost Dak Prescott in that
Speaker 1: game and it resulted in one, two, three, four straight
Speaker 1: losses heading into the bye week, following the Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: injury losses in which you scored ten points, three points,
Speaker 1: nine points, nineteen points along the way. But since the
Speaker 1: bye week, Cowboys are four and two and they have
Speaker 1: a chance to make the postseason with a win this
Speaker 1: week in a Washington loss. But we mentioned this Giants
Speaker 1: offense and I wrote about this yesterday and Big Picture Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: which kind of previews the week and the five story
Speaker 1: lines from each team. But it's a unique opportunity for
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett as the offensive coordinator for the Giants, coming
Speaker 1: in as really kind of on the hot seat again.
Speaker 1: I mean second straight ear he's been on the hot seat.
Speaker 1: He's on the hot seat last year, He's on the
Speaker 1: hot seat as a coordinator this year. But he not
Speaker 1: only has a chance to save his job and go
Speaker 1: to the postseason, but he has an opportunity to do
Speaker 1: it against his formal organization. Now, heck, well, what do
Speaker 1: you think about Jay Gez? Is there any extra motivation?
Speaker 1: I know he's gonna say the right things. He's gonna
Speaker 1: talk about we've got to do what we can do
Speaker 1: and we can control what we can control. But is
Speaker 1: there any ounce of Jason Garrett that has that revenge
Speaker 1: mind or that revenge on the mind going into a
Speaker 1: matchup like this that Kyle. It's really strange, man, the
Speaker 1: dichotomy at work between both of these franchises going into
Speaker 1: the scenes in one being that we add Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: and he's the piece that gets us to that championship
Speaker 1: that we're looking for. And then then Joe Judge in
Speaker 1: New York kind of rebuilding with Jason Garrett, and now
Speaker 1: here we are playing for potentially the NFC East. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I for one, have always liked Jason and Garrett. I
Speaker 1: know there are a lot of people that have opinions
Speaker 1: about him, probably Isaiah, he'll say that, talk about that,
Speaker 1: But you know, I just think that, you know, this
Speaker 1: is the parody, and it's wonderful that he has this
Speaker 1: opportunity against his old team, and we have an opportunity
Speaker 1: versus him as well, And so I'm not really worried
Speaker 1: about him per se as I am, you know, some
Speaker 1: of the other pieces in their offense. I know that,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as the scoring for New York
Speaker 1: has been completely down, and maybe that's what's gonna put
Speaker 1: him on the hot seat. But if the Giants are
Speaker 1: able to squeak out of victory this week, I think
Speaker 1: he may be in a position to save his reputation
Speaker 1: or his job. Yeah, I'm just I'm cycling through all
Speaker 1: the jisms I've heard over the years. You know he
Speaker 1: will asked that question, Kyle, he would say, I'm focusing
Speaker 1: on having a great Wednesday, and that's the mindset he's
Speaker 1: got to have. He's got it, He's not. You know,
Speaker 1: is there an ounce of him that wants to beat
Speaker 1: the Cowboys as a competitor. I'm sure there is, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, Heck said it like they're trying to get
Speaker 1: their their house in order offensively. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: they've got twenty six points scored in the last three games,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think he'll be back there next year.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we're seeing a little bit of
Speaker 1: this here in terms of the short offseason, and they've
Speaker 1: lost a lot of their their key guys. You know,
Speaker 1: losing sa Quon Barkley. You can't understate it because you
Speaker 1: know they're still trying to build up that offensive line
Speaker 1: and he can mask some of that. And while Wayne
Speaker 1: Gallman has done a good job running for them, they
Speaker 1: don't have sae Quon who can get you two yards,
Speaker 1: three yards, sixty yards. You know, that's that's been the
Speaker 1: biggest thing. And they're still I think they still need
Speaker 1: upgrade some of their personnel that they'll try to do that,
Speaker 1: and he's trying to work through that. But we the
Speaker 1: Cowboys just can't hand them, like I mentioned earlier, just
Speaker 1: can't hand them easy opportunities. I think they I want
Speaker 1: to say, there was a pick six early in that
Speaker 1: first game where they scored off of her early turnovers
Speaker 1: led to a scoopid score. Can't make it easier, it was,
Speaker 1: That's right exactly. So you just you can't make it
Speaker 1: easy on JG. This week, well, both teams I think
Speaker 1: had a scoop and score because Anthony Brown had to
Speaker 1: scoop and score off of the DeMarcus Lawrence strip sack.
Speaker 1: And then I believe one of their linebackers I can't
Speaker 1: remember who it was went back and I think he
Speaker 1: picked it up. Yeah, and that first quarter and it
Speaker 1: put them up was seventeen three or fourteen to three
Speaker 1: or something like that along the way, so they were
Speaker 1: up multiple scores. Isaiah. How they how do they improve
Speaker 1: that offense? Because I know you've talked about it. We
Speaker 1: talked about it in film room yesterday. They know how
Speaker 1: to attack the holes do they just not have the
Speaker 1: personnel to do so. I don't think they have the
Speaker 1: offensive line to do so. As much like Andress Like
Speaker 1: we like our scenario was we have all the skill sets,
Speaker 1: all the skill personnel out there, but you know we
Speaker 1: didn't have the office a line for that series of games.
Speaker 1: So it makes things hard. Doesn't matter how much talent
Speaker 1: you have out there when you can't get them the ball.
Speaker 1: So I think that's the issue that he's ran into.
Speaker 1: Majority of JG's stuff is he runs a lot of
Speaker 1: mirrored concepts, a ton of mirror concepts. And I think
Speaker 1: he's gotten better, he's improved and expanding his repertoire, uh
Speaker 1: since since those days that I was with him. But
Speaker 1: he still likes to sit back and push the bar
Speaker 1: down the field. He likes to find the gaps in
Speaker 1: the you know, in the seams. He has to find
Speaker 1: the seams in the coverages and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: So a lot of his stuff he needs time. He
Speaker 1: doesn't want to dink and dunk. That's not his style.
Speaker 1: He likes the big shot and you know that's that's
Speaker 1: his internal battle. So as long as we can get
Speaker 1: home and beat up on this officive line there, I
Speaker 1: think he's going to continue to struggle because, like you
Speaker 1: guys mentioned, he doesn't have he doesn't have san quandline
Speaker 1: on him. Yeah, that's that's very important as there and
Speaker 1: getting home this game. Uh, Tank Lawrence was able to
Speaker 1: get this strip sacked. But just not just negating the
Speaker 1: big plays from these guys, it's gonna be very important.
Speaker 1: We can't give up another one of those seventy five
Speaker 1: yard bombs. Uh. And also keeping Gallman in check. And
Speaker 1: you've seen that rob Over the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: Goldman has had like twelve Carris twenty seven yards. But
Speaker 1: when you go back to the Seattle game, which they
Speaker 1: beat Seattle in a game that they just muddied the
Speaker 1: waters with the running game, Wayne Gallman had like one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six yards. It just makes everything run
Speaker 1: so much more efficient for the Giants. And so for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys again giving up the most yards against the
Speaker 1: rush in the league, that's very important if they want
Speaker 1: to get a victory because Gallman can gash it. And
Speaker 1: if you want to give Jason Garrett credit for something
Speaker 1: in particular with the quarterback situation, it's Daniel Jones's turnovers
Speaker 1: are down. You know, I think his last four or
Speaker 1: five stars he hasn't thrown a pick, and sometimes that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's been their achilles heel is he'll try
Speaker 1: to make something happen, as you guys mentioned earlier, try
Speaker 1: to try to step outside yourself to finally get something
Speaker 1: going downfield and throw a pick. And sometimes the protection
Speaker 1: is a part of that too, the fumbles. But they've
Speaker 1: been better in that regard. They just haven't been able
Speaker 1: to manufacture yardage and manufacture points. And I do want
Speaker 1: to correct myself after I kind of corrected Rob earlier.
Speaker 1: It was an interception return forty six yards from Kyler
Speaker 1: fact Roll that actually put the Giants up fourteen to
Speaker 1: three at the end of that first quarter. So it
Speaker 1: was an interception return for a touchdown from the Giants defense,
Speaker 1: and then the fumble recovery returned for a touchdown for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense. But yeah, and also in the game
Speaker 1: earlier this season or excuse me, Daniel Jones did not
Speaker 1: throw an interception there as well, he had the fumble,
Speaker 1: So there's opportunities there, and he's going to put the
Speaker 1: ball on the turf, it seems like. And I know
Speaker 1: that was something that Isaiah was really adamant about the
Speaker 1: first time we played the Giants, was get after Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones and forced him to force turnovers. But really it
Speaker 1: was only the one. It was the one turnover that
Speaker 1: proved to be the game changer because it tied the
Speaker 1: game at seventeen. And then after that it was back
Speaker 1: and forth with Dak Prescott until he got hurt, and
Speaker 1: then Andy Dalton came in and went nine of eleven
Speaker 1: and led the game winning drive. So there was that
Speaker 1: back and forth in that game. Isaiah, you just cannot
Speaker 1: allow this Cowboys team to beat themselves this week, right, No,
Speaker 1: I just keep doing what we've been doing. We've been
Speaker 1: really good in terms of taking care of the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know when Zeke gets the ball, we
Speaker 1: know what's on the forefront of his you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's he's he's not gonna give the ball up again.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Last game, there's a couple instances and
Speaker 1: I was like, ooh those what they're going for the
Speaker 1: cameras and it's kind of shaking a little bit. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: not today, So you know, I don't I'm not concerned
Speaker 1: about Zeke anymore. Andy Dalton. You know, that's probably about
Speaker 1: one one ball per game that I think he probably,
Speaker 1: you know, tries to force it. You know. For so
Speaker 1: for the most part, he's being the savvy veteran that
Speaker 1: that knows, hey, we're gonna have our opportunities. He's not
Speaker 1: trying to force things. He I think he has established
Speaker 1: a trust with Kellen Moore. Now that's the thing. When
Speaker 1: you're a quarterback, when you don't trust your offer as
Speaker 1: a coordinator, you're like, man, screw it, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: figure it out myself. But when you trust you, when
Speaker 1: you trust your off as a coordinator, now guess what. Okay,
Speaker 1: I won't try to force it in this window because
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna have opportunity to move to chains
Speaker 1: and he'll give me the opportunity to throw it down
Speaker 1: the field. So that's that's gotten better. And then on
Speaker 1: the defenside of the ball, like you guys already said,
Speaker 1: don't give up the big play, keep everything in front
Speaker 1: of you, make sound decisions, make you know, good tackles,
Speaker 1: square up on some guys, and then when you have
Speaker 1: opportunity to pop somebody in your chests and pop the
Speaker 1: ball out it. That's what we've been playing, That's how
Speaker 1: we've been playing the last few weeks. If we if
Speaker 1: we improve at all in limiting these guys to yardage
Speaker 1: and these games might turn to blowouts. And Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones with the hamstring injury, coming off of
Speaker 1: the hamstring injury, he may be a little bit less. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he may be a little bit less of himself. And
Speaker 1: in the first meeting that we had, we were worried
Speaker 1: about that man because Daniel Jones, you know, called Daniel Dimes,
Speaker 1: but he has some jets. You know, he can get
Speaker 1: loose on you. And with the hamstring injury, I don't
Speaker 1: think you have to worry about that. And I mean
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just leave the open the red sea for
Speaker 1: him and dare him to do it. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, that's just not that worry that you had
Speaker 1: there before with his mobility. And so this Cowboys defense
Speaker 1: can definitely keep it in front of them. And again,
Speaker 1: just no cheap penalties, nose pass interferences and don't help
Speaker 1: a struggling offense get up on you. But with cheap
Speaker 1: penalties and the Cowboys. The more thing about the turnovers too, Sorry, Kyle,
Speaker 1: go for one more thing about the turnovers. Just you know,
Speaker 1: we've been on the coaches this year, you know, and
Speaker 1: and a lot of people have in terms of special
Speaker 1: teams defense, but even Kellen Moore too. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: credit to John Fossil for some of the turnovers they've
Speaker 1: been able to have, and Isaiah mentioned preventing them offensively
Speaker 1: every Wednesday Thursday, they drilled the hell out of it.
Speaker 1: John Fossil's also the fundamentals coordinator and they do a
Speaker 1: lot of drill work on ball security and stripping and
Speaker 1: doing all those things. So maybe maybe over fifteen sixteen
Speaker 1: weeks that's that's helped. You got to give credit to
Speaker 1: the players first, but but I think Fossil's involvement in
Speaker 1: that has been has been key too. We think about
Speaker 1: we already mentioned today Reggie Robinson punching the ball out
Speaker 1: that was on special teams well last week or I
Speaker 1: guess two weeks ago now against San Francisco Dorin's Armstrong
Speaker 1: Force and a fumble that was on special teams. So
Speaker 1: it has resulted in game changing plays, and hey, if
Speaker 1: your defense couldn't get your turnovers, at least your special
Speaker 1: teams unit is trying to do something for you. And
Speaker 1: that's something that I know the Cowboys are looking to
Speaker 1: continue going into week seventeen. Also not to mention. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys are back on the practice field today, like you said,
Speaker 1: and we'll see what the injury report looks like. But
Speaker 1: on that defense, I think the health of the secondary
Speaker 1: is the biggest key component right now. Is Xavier Woods
Speaker 1: going to be available, as darry and Thompson going to
Speaker 1: be available. Are these four corners still healthy enough to
Speaker 1: where they can continue to build that continuity and play
Speaker 1: together as the top four players in that secondary. Those
Speaker 1: are all important questions that hopefully we'll be answered today
Speaker 1: and tomorrow via the practice field. But we'll have to
Speaker 1: see how that is. But we'll update you tomorrow on
Speaker 1: what that ultimately ends up being. When we come back,
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Speaker 1: about stock up stock down. We only have like five
Speaker 1: or six minutes left. I guess we could go a
Speaker 1: little bit over, but Mike McCarthy's got to talk today.
Speaker 1: So Isaiah, we're gonna start with you. I want you
Speaker 1: to name three players on the defense, three players this
Speaker 1: season that have upped their stock but are but maybe
Speaker 1: not necessarily cornerstone players. They can be, but that's not
Speaker 1: what I'm asking. I'm just saying, have up their stock
Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty one or excuse me, twenty twenty
Speaker 1: just talking about yes, just talking about Gallimore up, Okay,
Speaker 1: Gregory uh love it, Donovan Wilson up. So those are
Speaker 1: the three that I think I was kind of right
Speaker 1: in there, Rob heck wol Do you have anybody to
Speaker 1: add to that list in terms of stock up? I'm say,
Speaker 1: Jay Lou. I think George Jorge Lewis has been playing
Speaker 1: a lot better over the last couple of weeks, and
Speaker 1: you know, toughness all that. I would throw him in
Speaker 1: there as well as a stock up. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: where I was going. He's probably been their best corner
Speaker 1: of the last month. And also, not to mention, in
Speaker 1: the past, he hasn't had those opportunities to be a
Speaker 1: fully rotational player, a full starter, things of the sort,
Speaker 1: just based off of the previous coaching staff. He was
Speaker 1: never really in that conversation. So I would agree, I
Speaker 1: would say stock up. So those are four guys that
Speaker 1: have improved their stock. Now I'm going to flip this
Speaker 1: question around for you, gentlemen. We're gonna start with Rob
Speaker 1: on this one. But who is a cornerstone member of
Speaker 1: this defense that you know not only has he been
Speaker 1: good in twenty twenty but he will be back and
Speaker 1: be a Cornerstone member in twenty twenty one. DeMarcus Lawrence. Okay,
Speaker 1: is that too obvious? Yeah? I mean I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think who's who's Cornerstone like Cornerstone player defensively, because man,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some change back in the secondary. A
Speaker 1: lot of guys up for free agency. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they've got a bunch of Cornerstones back there. Cornerstones,
Speaker 1: um Man, you know what, I'm gonna throw Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: into that mix because I think if Randy Gregory is
Speaker 1: not a star starter next year, he got a little
Speaker 1: bit of an extension, right I think he signed through
Speaker 1: next season, and I think he's gonna play even more
Speaker 1: meaningful snaps next year. He's he's around thirty thirty five
Speaker 1: snaps a game right now. That's gonna bump up next year. Okay, heckma,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah? I want to say Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory as well. I'm hesitant to say that obviously because
Speaker 1: of the past and suspensions, but I think this guy
Speaker 1: has a new lease. I think he sees his potential
Speaker 1: and knows what he can do in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: I think the time away made him appreciate the game
Speaker 1: even more, and that's prayfully, that's that's what his realization
Speaker 1: is on his ability. But thank Lawrence as well. I
Speaker 1: think he's had an off year. He started a slow,
Speaker 1: but you can see how ninety when he's on, he
Speaker 1: can influence the game. Isaiah had to go against you, guys,
Speaker 1: I don't see d law as a cornerstone player. I
Speaker 1: see him as an important player, but I don't see
Speaker 1: him as a cornerstone. I don't think that you can.
Speaker 1: I think you can start the season next year and
Speaker 1: not have him and be all right, especially for what
Speaker 1: he's demanding financially. I think that Tryvon Diggs is a
Speaker 1: cornerstone player for you. I think that what he's done
Speaker 1: this year, he has a lot of growth. But I
Speaker 1: think that that's somebody that you go into this draft
Speaker 1: class and you say, Okay, we need one more guy, right,
Speaker 1: we need one more guy because you know the leaps
Speaker 1: and bounce that he's gonna make from year one of
Speaker 1: year two, the players that he faced, what he all,
Speaker 1: the adversity he's overcome this year, He's gonna make huge
Speaker 1: strides one of the next year. So this offseason, you
Speaker 1: focus on getting one additional corner in a safety and
Speaker 1: you're feeling real good about your secondary. So if I
Speaker 1: had to say anybody's a corner stone, I would say
Speaker 1: Trevan because I think more so because of the upside.
Speaker 1: I would agree with you on Diggs. Yeah, that certainly
Speaker 1: view him that way. On d Law though, I know
Speaker 1: what he's making and it's for me, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like the Zeke thing. The contract is what it is.
Speaker 1: But if they if they didn't have him in the lineup,
Speaker 1: where would their run defense. B That's that's my that's
Speaker 1: my question that I struggle with. I know a sacks
Speaker 1: aren't there, but it's it's a lot of the little
Speaker 1: stuff too that he gets dusked. Yeah. And the only
Speaker 1: reason why I say that I don't agree with that, Rob.
Speaker 1: I disagree with you on that which we don't do
Speaker 1: that often is Zeke. Zeke's success depends on a lot
Speaker 1: of other guys, right versus d Law he hate most
Speaker 1: of the time. He has one on one matchups most
Speaker 1: of the game, So I haven't seen that production, that
Speaker 1: level of production to justify what he's asking to get paid.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying I'm not saying he's not a
Speaker 1: good player. I'm not saying all that, but like for
Speaker 1: what he's getting paid, there's other dudes that you would
Speaker 1: go out there and get. They completely changed a lot
Speaker 1: of money. They changed everything that that guy did. So
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to if we're handing out mull against
Speaker 1: to anybody, d Laws definitely gonna have to get one
Speaker 1: because they changed his game completely from where it was before.
Speaker 1: And so you know, still and Rob, you say, where
Speaker 1: will we be in the running game had he not
Speaker 1: been there when you finished last in the league. I
Speaker 1: think people kind of frowned on that. But again, it
Speaker 1: may have been where it was three hundred, may have
Speaker 1: been four hundred. We thought held some of those instances.
Speaker 1: But still, I mean, you want to you talk about
Speaker 1: a guy that you know can influence the game. And
Speaker 1: I just look for d Law to come back next year,
Speaker 1: familiarize himself with his defense, and obviously at those other
Speaker 1: key pieces to improve upon that pass rush. So I
Speaker 1: like she has a quick question before we go off
Speaker 1: the air car. Yes, very very qu question, very quick.
Speaker 1: If you guys that option to get von Miller and
Speaker 1: swap him out for d Law would you, Oh wow,
Speaker 1: come on now, really no, no, I no, man, I
Speaker 1: would know I would. I don't think I would do it,
Speaker 1: not coming off the answer no, I don't think so
Speaker 1: either it wouldn't happen. Wouldn't happen? No, us. I love
Speaker 1: this question. I love what Isaiah's bringing to the table here,
Speaker 1: and I love the questions that he's asking because it's
Speaker 1: a lot of the same things that I've said on
Speaker 1: the other side of the football about Ezekiel Elliott. It
Speaker 1: really is. I mean, go back, and I want you
Speaker 1: guys to go back and listen to this segment. And
Speaker 1: this wasn't my intention, but I want to throw this
Speaker 1: out there because you could take d Law's name out
Speaker 1: of this conversation and replace it with Ezekiel Elliott and
Speaker 1: it's the same exact argument all the way through. On
Speaker 1: the time said about e Zeke needing a front line
Speaker 1: to be z No, I heard that, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that. I man, there's there's conversations on both sides
Speaker 1: of the football that haus going into the off season.
Speaker 1: It brings a whole different perspective to it. When you
Speaker 1: when you factor in money always yeah, right, So that's yeah.
Speaker 1: From that perspective. Yeah, but it is interesting how Zeke
Speaker 1: Man he ran great in the second half. We had
Speaker 1: all of this big run through. You know, it's interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know it's the same
Speaker 1: offensive line that they've been playing behind the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. I just want to let that be known.
Speaker 1: It's the same offensive line where he had like forty
Speaker 1: yards as to where he had one hundred and five.
Speaker 1: One team was the Yeah, whatever, against a bad team,
Speaker 1: against a bad team. That's that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: They are against a bad team. Now, that's gonna do
Speaker 1: it for us on talking Cowboys. We've got more saying
Speaker 1: it with our chests coming up tomorrow, and you know
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Speaker 1: prediction segments, our final prediction segment of the regular season.
Speaker 1: How about that? Can Rob Phillips hold on for the
Speaker 1: title and the regular season and thrust his way into
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Speaker 1: but for today, for Chris Beam, for Isaiah stand Back,
Speaker 1: for Rob Phillips, and for heck By Harrison, I'm Kyle
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