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Speaker 1: Oh good time. Steve Tasper done touch Down, touch Down,

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Speaker 1: text down time. Welcome to One Bill's Live. I'm Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker and unfortunately Murf's out sick today, so you're gonna

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Speaker 1: me today. We've got a lot to talk about. Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown's gonna be out at practice as it starts. As

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Speaker 1: you see there, it's a cloudy day in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: For those of you watching us on MSG once again, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you can call or tweet at us. You can come

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Speaker 1: gonna have to bear with me today. I'm not really

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Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna be stuck with me. We've got a

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Speaker 1: tweet Twitter poll we're gonna put out and talk about

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Speaker 1: that as well. Today we've got Derek Anderson, new Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's quarterback, coming on at two o'clock today. John McClean

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Speaker 1: from the Houston Chronicle he's been covering the NFL for

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Speaker 1: forty years. He's been with a chronicle for forty three years.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he's been there so long he was there

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Speaker 1: when I was playing for the Houston Oilers, a team

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Speaker 1: that doesn't even live in that city anymore. John McLean's

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Speaker 1: coming on with us today at one o'clock. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Thursday Night football tonight, Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: at New York Giants, and the fact that to no one's,

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Speaker 1: NFC East is a dumpster fire, and those two teams

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Speaker 1: of Philadelphia New York Giants are meeting tonight. Chris Brown's

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Speaker 1: going to join us in a minute from practice, But

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Speaker 1: until then, you can you can talk about our Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: We put it out. It's the Bill's playing in Houston

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Speaker 1: out a thing about this game. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: what matchup are you really looking for? Trey White? What

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills take on the Texans, And it's there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of choices. We didn't put another on today

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Speaker 1: because Murph's out sick, so we went with four choices.

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Speaker 1: Trey White versus DeAndre Hopkins is one choice. The Houston

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Speaker 1: defensive ends, which means JJ Watt and Jadavian Clowney versus

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills oh line. Josh Allen versus the Houston secondary,

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Speaker 1: And if you don't know by now, the Houston secondary

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Speaker 1: for the Texans is completely depleted. They've got a lot

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Speaker 1: a chance for Josh Allen to sling it around, and

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Speaker 1: of course to the fourth one, Lashawn McCoy versus the

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Speaker 1: eighth ranked run defense in the National Football League. Those

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Speaker 1: are your choices. You can tweet at us at one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live, or you can call at eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty or outside the Buffalo area one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty if you so incline,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be me and Chris Brown today coming at

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Speaker 1: you from One Bills Live. Once again, Murph is is

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Speaker 1: out sick. But that the thing I think it's going

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Speaker 1: there before. In fact, I think it was Jay Harris,

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Speaker 1: our producer, said that Houston, our NRG stadium, was the

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Speaker 1: We're gonna jump. Go out right now to Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Last week, he had the ankle injury, sat out practice

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Speaker 1: now more as a preventative measure than as a rehab

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Speaker 1: it's like night and day. I mean, the Houston secondary

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Speaker 1: So you've got three guys there in a key position

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Speaker 1: And you know, Steve, I know you could speak to

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Speaker 1: it's not surprising to see them crop up on injury lists,

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Speaker 1: for Houston. Chris, we just received words somebody there at practice.

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Speaker 1: A big guy's addressing the team. You got Bruce Smith

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Speaker 1: practice live right now, Brownie, whether the team is getting

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Speaker 1: you know, with whoever the back was, be it Ivory

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Speaker 1: or McCoy, along with a couple of tight ends. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they intend to run the football the

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Speaker 1: same way they did last week, and I don't have

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Speaker 1: any indication to think they wouldn't, yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: think you could definitely see some heavy personnel. The good

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Speaker 1: thing that Dable does, though, is he mixes that up.

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Speaker 1: It's not just solely you know, twenty two or thirteen.

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Speaker 1: He'll just mix it in with some other looks. Because

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Speaker 1: he went heavy with twelve personnel last week, in addition

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Speaker 1: to eleven personnel, which is three wide, one back. You know,

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Speaker 1: for our listeners viewers that are wondering what the heck

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about, you know, they like to go eleven,

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Speaker 1: maybe more than any other formation grouping, but twelve personnel

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Speaker 1: with the two tight ends and the one back is

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Speaker 1: not far behind. And then he will mix in some

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Speaker 1: of these other looks. Heavy look was the soup djour

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Speaker 1: last week. I wouldn't be surprised if it's mixed in

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Speaker 1: to a healthy degree this week too. Yeah, when you

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Speaker 1: talk about the different personnel packages, they do run guys

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Speaker 1: on and off a lot, and in fact, I think,

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Speaker 1: especially in the early in the game, it's almost as

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Speaker 1: if he's pouring test tubes into each other, deciding what

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Speaker 1: he wants to do for the rest of the game,

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Speaker 1: deciding which personnel combination he wants to use. Is that

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Speaker 1: the flavor you get. He's got a lot of different options,

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Speaker 1: and he wants to find out what matchup he can

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Speaker 1: get and what defensive alignment the Texans are going to use.

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Speaker 1: So he'll run those through, knowing that they're not all

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Speaker 1: going to be successful, but wanting to find out what

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Speaker 1: the defense is doing against his offense. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be an interesting cat and mouse game

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Speaker 1: this week, not only because Dable is known for it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like for casual fans. Basically, what Dable does

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Speaker 1: is he's using the test to take the test, so

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Speaker 1: to speak. You know, he's putting things out there to

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Speaker 1: see how the defense reacts, and then he's taking what

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Speaker 1: the defense gives him to try to set something up

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Speaker 1: later in the game, whether it's a deep shot down

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Speaker 1: the field based on how that defense covers a play

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Speaker 1: or plays a play that the Bills throw at him,

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Speaker 1: or it might be just changing it up to try

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Speaker 1: to catch them off guard with a grouping and a

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Speaker 1: formation look that maybe they haven't put on film through

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Speaker 1: the first five games of the season. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: you've got some level of familiarity here, though, Steve, because

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and Brian Dable obviously coached on Bill Belichick's

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Speaker 1: staff together for several years, so you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: like some of these concepts are foreign to Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: and at all. So it's going to be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see the chess game that unfolds here on Sunday. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's let's take it one step on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the football now again. So let's say the best

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Speaker 1: case scenario happens and Turdavious White is able to keep

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins off the board to a large extent, and

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Speaker 1: the you know, Deshaun Watson and the rest of the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans offense is gonna have to find another way

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Speaker 1: to beat him. What's their best option if DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: isn't the receiver that he usually is for that team,

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Speaker 1: I think they turned to their other weapons. I think

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Speaker 1: it's Will Fuller, you know. I think it's Key, Key, cute,

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Speaker 1: and you know, with Lamar Miller back in the lineup,

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Speaker 1: I think they use him a good deal. So you know,

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Speaker 1: there are other weapons there besides DeAndre Hopkins, and it's

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Speaker 1: going to be incumbent on the Bills to do their

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Speaker 1: best to cover them all up. And that's proven to

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Speaker 1: be easier said than done with the passing yardage that

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Speaker 1: the Texans have been able to rack up, you know

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks. Well, we've we've got this Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll out, Brownie, and I want to ask you about

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Speaker 1: it because it's it's interesting because the matchup is one

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Speaker 1: of the choices would not normally be on the table

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Speaker 1: thinking about Josh Allen matching up with a secondary they

501
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Speaker 1: have not thrown the football well. But this Houston secondary

502
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Speaker 1: is ravaged by injury and they have had guys also

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Speaker 1: who have not played well. Is this a chance for

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Speaker 1: maybe Josh out in the passing game to find itself?

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Speaker 1: How likely is that? Uh? I would say if it's

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Speaker 1: short to intermediate, yes, I don't think they want to

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Speaker 1: go with a lot of deep route concepts in this game,

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Speaker 1: knowing the kind of pass rush that the Texans can bring,

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Speaker 1: so I would anticipate a short to intermediate passing game

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Speaker 1: to compliment the run game this week. Uh. You don't

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Speaker 1: want Josh coming under a world of pressure or the

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Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety five pound defensive player of the

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Speaker 1: year even down his neck. So if they're gonna use

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Speaker 1: Josh Moore on the passing game, I expect quick half

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Speaker 1: field reads where he can get it out of his

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Speaker 1: hand quickly. We're with Chris Brown, Buffalo Bills Insider, live

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Speaker 1: at Buffalo Bill's practice here in One Bill's Drive and

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Speaker 1: talking about the Buffalo Bills headed to the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting too, what do you think brings this game

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Speaker 1: to another level with Bill O'Brien and Brian day Ball

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Speaker 1: being guys who have coached on the same staff under

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick up in New England. Now that's been a

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Speaker 1: number of years ago, no question about it. But what

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Speaker 1: effect do you think that could possibly have on this game? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna prompt both sides to try to

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Speaker 1: dial up something that is unforeseen or unexpected. Naturally, that's

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Speaker 1: what you try to put in a game plan to

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Speaker 1: some degree every week. But when you know that there's

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Speaker 1: some level of familiarity with former co workers, I think

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Speaker 1: it prompts coaches to maybe even take that another step

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Speaker 1: in an effort to be unpredictable. So we may see

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Speaker 1: some things this week that might be a little bit

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Speaker 1: out of character, not to any great degree where it's

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Speaker 1: half the game plan, but there might be a small

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Speaker 1: package of things that either the Bills on offense or heck,

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Speaker 1: even the Texans on offense turned to in an effort

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Speaker 1: to keep the opposing defense off guard. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: would kind of say it would probably be more along

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Speaker 1: the lines of how they just during the game, would

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Speaker 1: it not be? If if you have an idea of

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Speaker 1: what the other team or the other coach likes to

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Speaker 1: do or what his propensity is. Do you maybe if

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Speaker 1: after you make your halftime adjustments, maybe you don't make

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Speaker 1: the same adjustments against the guy you know as a coach,

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Speaker 1: knowing the way he thinks. And I know it's like

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a princess bride. I know that

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Speaker 1: you know that, I know that you know kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't it could affect your adjustments, am I right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think so. I mean you don't want to go

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Speaker 1: too far down the rabbit hole, right and get away

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Speaker 1: from the stuff that you feel you do best. So

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Speaker 1: that's the balance that you know, these coaches try to

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Speaker 1: strike each and every week with the game plan that

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Speaker 1: they do put in. If you're struggling to get production,

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Speaker 1: you do want to ride and rely on what you

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Speaker 1: do best. But if you feel that opponent has a

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Speaker 1: good answer for some of that, you may want to

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Speaker 1: have a few other things up your sleeve that you

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Speaker 1: think your team can execute in an effort to maybe

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Speaker 1: get that one or two big plays that you need

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Speaker 1: that may be the difference in the game. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's interesting there's a lot of cross pollination between these

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Speaker 1: two staffs. Bill's offensive coordinator Brian day Ball and Texas

564
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Romeo Cornell. Now Romeo Cornell hired day Ball

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Speaker 1: to be his offensive coordinator in Kansas City in twenty

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Speaker 1: twelve when Cornell was the head coach of the camp

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Speaker 1: the City Chiefs. So there's a lot of familiarity and

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Speaker 1: a lot of friendships and relationships across these two coaching staffs,

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Speaker 1: and I think, you know, you're not going to get

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Speaker 1: an answer from them before the game, but after the game,

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Speaker 1: I think we got to remember to ask these guys

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Speaker 1: how it did affect this game, because there's no question

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Speaker 1: it's got to cross all of their minds because of

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Speaker 1: their familiarity with each other, right, And you know, I

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Speaker 1: think part of the game plan is kind of being

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Speaker 1: played out right here in front of us as we're

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Speaker 1: watching these one on ones between receivers and dbs. At

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Speaker 1: least as far as Buffalo's defensive plan is concerned, they

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Speaker 1: know that Watson can get out of the pocket and

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Speaker 1: extend plays. So the constant word that I've heard from

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Speaker 1: the Dbs this week is we have to plaster and

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Speaker 1: what that means is stay with their receivers, maybe even

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Speaker 1: longer than they do typically knowing plays can last four

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Speaker 1: to five, maybe even six seconds when Watson is scrambling

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Speaker 1: around in the backfield, as opposed to the average of

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Speaker 1: three to four seconds in the league. So what we're

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Speaker 1: seeing here is a dedicated effort by the Bills defensive

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Speaker 1: backs to stay as close to their coverage targets as possible.

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Speaker 1: And granted, this is a man situation and the Bills

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00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: play a healthy degree of zone, but when they find

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Speaker 1: their assignment in the coverage, whatever the call is, we're

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Speaker 1: seeing these guys being encouraged to plaster all the way

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Speaker 1: down the field, not just ten yards, but on deep

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Speaker 1: routes fifteen yards, twenty yards, stay with guys for you know,

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Speaker 1: longer than five seconds, which is a big ask in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. But it looks like that's what's being reinforced

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Speaker 1: here on the field right now. Brownie, thanks for this.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna toss to a break. You're gonna come back

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Speaker 1: inside and join me here in the studio, are you not? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll see you in a minute, man, A right, perfect,

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Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take a break, come back with

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live. We've got Derek Anderson coming on the show.

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Speaker 1: We've got John Acclaim from the Houston Chronicle coming onto

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Speaker 1: the show later on. We've got a Twitter poll. You

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Speaker 1: can join us at eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: or one eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or

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Speaker 1: you can tweet at us at one Bills Live you're

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Speaker 1: listening to Buffalo or two one Bills Live at one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Steve Tasker, along with Chris Brown. Murphy is

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Speaker 1: not in today. He'll be back hopefully tomorrow as he

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Speaker 1: saves his voice for Sunday. I mean, can you imagine

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Speaker 1: that first ghost course on a Saturday. I talked to

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Speaker 1: him on the phone. He's he's all right, He's he's

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Speaker 1: starting time. He was starting to take his side. He's

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Speaker 1: taking a Charles Clay day. Yeah, he's resting here on

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Speaker 1: third veteran rest day, you know, so he can you

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Speaker 1: can tune it up. We got a lot, we got

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk. We're gonna talk tech, talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about Thursday night football. Tonight, the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 1: are taken on the New York Giants in MetLife Stadium

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Speaker 1: in the Meadowlands. And this is not not the NFC East.

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Speaker 1: Your dad knows, I know that. I mean this. The

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Speaker 1: NFC East is an absolute train wreck. The Cowboys, the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: the Giants, and the Redskins. Neither nobody in the ac

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Speaker 1: NFC East is above five hundred. All four teams have

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Speaker 1: negative point differential their combined winning percentages point three sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: That's the worst of any division in football. They're playing

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Speaker 1: tonight And the only thing that is of interest is

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Speaker 1: because it's two large TV markets. And you look, and

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Speaker 1: also the Giants, you know they took se Quon Barkley

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Speaker 1: number two in the draft this year. Are they looking

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Speaker 1: at that right now? And all these four young rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks playing around the league in the top top ten

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Speaker 1: picks of the draft, are they bumming out right now

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Speaker 1: in New York that they don't have one of these

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Speaker 1: guys on their rocks? And it's an easy narrative to

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Speaker 1: throw out there, But do you think you'd be better

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Speaker 1: than one and three right now with a rookie quarterback?

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Speaker 1: We may will be better than one and three next

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Speaker 1: year at this time if without one, right, but you

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Speaker 1: can't complain. I'm not saying that that either one of

643
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Speaker 1: them would play ahead of ELI at this point. But

644
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Speaker 1: at least the guy would be sitting there on your roster,

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Speaker 1: would be clamoring for him by now. Yeah, maybe in

646
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: New York that would be for sure. You know. Would

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00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 1: he play worse? Would he be worse than one and three?

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Speaker 1: Hard to say, hard to say. I think what you

649
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Speaker 1: have there, And it's funny because you know social media

650
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: and the comedy and the sarcasm that exists there. I

651
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: saw a tweet that said the NFC East right now,

652
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Speaker 1: and it was a picture of four garbage cans with

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Speaker 1: each of the team's logos color coded and everything. They

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00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: had a green garbage can with an Eagles logo on it.

655
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Speaker 1: They had two blue ones with Cowboys and Johns an one.

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Speaker 1: The Skins are a top of the division at two

657
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Speaker 1: and two. Yeah, they're the and Dallas is two and three,

658
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: Phillies two and three, and of course the Giants are

659
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: one and four hosting tonight. And what isn't helping this

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Speaker 1: division either is this year their intra conference division that

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Speaker 1: they play is the NFC South. And we saw Washington

662
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: get thumped by the Saints. We saw the Giants lose

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Speaker 1: a closed one to Carolina last week. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: a tough division to have as your intra division for

665
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Speaker 1: your four games. Um, I cannot recall who the cross

666
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: AFC division is that they're playing this year, but the

667
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: people watching on MSG you can tell there's one team

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00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: in the NFC East that has a division win. And

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Speaker 1: that's because you know, the Giants and the Giants and

670
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: the cow the Dallas Cowboys and the Giants have played.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else has played a game in their division that

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Speaker 1: Dallas has one division win. Nobody else has played. And

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00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean they are and they're gonna go on national

674
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Speaker 1: TV tonight. That's not the matchup that the Thursday night

675
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: football people were looking forward to. And there's some stuff

676
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: about this game that's going to be interesting. Certainly, the

677
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: further trials and tribulations of Eli Manning and the and

678
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: the Giant offensive line is gonna be Um, it's gonna

679
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: be on full display. Carson Wentz and his return from

680
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: his knee injury. That guy's getting better every week. Yeah,

681
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: a little rusty, little rusty start with, Yeah, little rusty,

682
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: but no camp, no, none of them. He's just running

683
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Speaker 1: around his shorts and T shirts and he's starting to

684
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: air it out now. But um, it's gonna be interesting

685
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Speaker 1: to see what the running game looks like tonight for them,

686
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: because Darren Sprowles is probably not going to play. He's

687
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: still got the hamstring injury and his I don't think

688
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: he is on I R now with the ACL So

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00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: Clements missed the last couple of games, but it's probably

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00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: gonna be Clement uh and Smallwood are going to be

691
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: the two backs there, and I don't know if either

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00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: of those are capable of being a lead horse, if

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Speaker 1: you will, So it's gonna be interesting to see how

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00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: they mix and match those guys. Um. I'm not saying

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00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: Clement can't catch the ball out of the backfield, but

696
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Smallwood is more of the Darren Sprowles shifty type that

697
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 1: you can throw swing passes to make a guy miss,

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00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, where Clement is more of the

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00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: inside runner. I'm just curious to see, you know, what

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00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson dials up in terms of backfield usage tonight.

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Speaker 1: And for Bill's fans watching this game, this is the

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00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles team with all these running backs, and if

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00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: they're running games a dumpster fire tonight, the trade talk

704
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: for Lashaw McCoy is gonna be front and center by

705
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: the second quarter. And and if you flip it to

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Speaker 1: the other side, you know, well, I mean if you

707
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: look at that, yeah, the price could go up. Yeah,

708
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: because because the demand is higher. It's just like commodities market, man,

709
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 1: you don't know it's gonna go up if somebody's getting

710
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: where it goes up or down. Yeah, And so yeah,

711
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: and and I look, and I look at the giant

712
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: side of the Ledger two and on the offensive side

713
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: of the ball. They finally cut ties with Eric Flowers,

714
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: who was officially determined to failed first round pick. Uh

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Speaker 1: top ten pick. I think. I think it was a

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00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: tenth pick in the draft. And uh, that was a

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00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: swing and a giant as a headache, no pun intended.

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00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, so they're moving on from him.

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00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: They're trying to reshape that offensive line, and you know,

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00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: people are it's ironic that you have so many people

721
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Speaker 1: bagging on Eli Manning right now because these were the

722
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: people a lot of these people were the same ones

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Speaker 1: who were up in arms just last year when they're saying,

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Speaker 1: how can they do Eli Manning this way? How could

725
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: they bench him? And you know what I mean, so

726
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: to see do a complete one eighty as far as

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00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: the majority of public opinion is concerned. Is interesting. It's

728
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: also interesting that Odell Beckham's comments. You know, when Odell speaks,

729
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: people listen. He's like Ef Hutton, and you know, he's

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Speaker 1: basically saying, we got a quarterback issue. He's kind of

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Speaker 1: he's kind of hinted at that. Well, they yeah, and

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Speaker 1: they came out after he said that, though. The Giants

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Speaker 1: come out and they hanged thirty points. It's the first

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Speaker 1: time the Giants have scored thirty points since Tom Coughlin

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00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: was their head coach. Yeah, that's that's pretty bad. That

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00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 1: is pretty bad, especially when you have a quarterback who's

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Speaker 1: on two Super Bowls for you and you can't, you know,

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Speaker 1: manufacture that kind of point production at least once in

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Speaker 1: a while. You know, you gotta be turnovers though. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be a playoff team in the NFL,

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00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: you're at you have. The league average is about twenty

742
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: two to twenty four points a game almost every year

743
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 1: and has been probably the last four or five years.

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00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: It may go up this year with all the scoring

745
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: that's going on, but if you want to be a

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Speaker 1: playoff team, you better be scoring more than twenty four

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00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: points a week, and the Giants are not in that

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00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: vicinity right now. They were last week with thirty one,

749
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: but it still wasn't good enough to win a game. Granted,

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00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: Graham Cano nuts a sixty three yard or to win

751
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: the thing. So you know that's unusual, but all it's

752
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: a tough way to go. It is, and you may

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00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: need thirty tonight if you're gonna beat the Eagles. Listen,

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00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is lightening it up. He's gonna he's gonna

755
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: start playing. He's gonna continue to play better. May rephrase

756
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: that you will need thirty tonight. If you're gonna need

757
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: thirty points tonight at home against the Philadelphia Eagles to

758
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: win this game, there's no question he's even if you

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00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: get Wentz is got a quarterback rating of one twenty

760
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: three point one. When he's pre when he's pressured, I

761
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: mean he if you're gonna get to him and send

762
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: pressure to do it, he's gonna beat you. That's that's

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00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: the big problem for the Giants. Um, I don't know

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00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: how else you're gonna do it. Certainly, you know he's

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00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: gonna air it out because they got there. We've just

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Speaker 1: been talking about how many running backs they've got down

767
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Speaker 1: to injury. Sprowls is out and he's a pass catching

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Speaker 1: running back. He's gonna throw to the outside receivers. Wentz

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Speaker 1: is and he's been good doing it, and he's been

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Speaker 1: getting better. He's thrown for three hundred yards in the

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Speaker 1: last couple of games, and and he's he looks like

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Speaker 1: he's getting back to the MVP MVP guy he was

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Speaker 1: last year. And he's got two great tight ends too.

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Speaker 1: I mean not only zach ERTs, but this emerging rookie

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Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard, who I remember talking to down at the

776
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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl last January South Dakota State. I think he's

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Speaker 1: out of and uh, the kid's a giant, all right,

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00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: six six with arms that go on for days. So

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00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: you think about his red zone options al Shan Jeffrey,

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Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard, zach Ertz, Jordan Matthews, it's like he's got

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Speaker 1: a he's got an embarrassment of riches you might have.

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Speaker 1: He might have talked me into watching this game tonight,

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Speaker 1: although I am going to the Saves game. I'm going

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00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: to the Savers game first. Then I might catch the

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00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: second half. Okay, I might do that are you gonna

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00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: watch it? You're gonna double up. You're gonna watch this

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Speaker 1: game tonight if I'm awake? Yeah, I mean maybe the

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00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: first time is not gonna watch the gamebe the first half?

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00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: All right? I get up way too early, so I'm

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00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: sacking out by like may. We're gonna reset the Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll after the break. We've got John McClean coming up

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Speaker 1: at one o'clock, the Houston Chronicle beat writer for the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Time Derrick Anderson is in the fold. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna come on with us today as well. We got

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Speaker 1: some NFL true false? What do we learn after the show?

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Speaker 1: Coming up later on? But this is presented by Kalidah

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Speaker 1: Health One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, and this

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to one Drills five

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Browning today for Murph, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about a little bit. We're gonna take some calls,

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00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: but we've got a Twitter poll out if you want

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00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: to jump in on it, you can eighth three five

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Speaker 1: fifty or one eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll. Is this the game coming up this weekend?

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Speaker 1: What's the matchup you're most looking forward to this Sunday

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Speaker 1: when the Bills take on the Texans. We've got four choices,

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Speaker 1: Trey White versus DeAndre Hopkins, Houston defensive ends versus Bills

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Speaker 1: oh line, Josh Allen versus the Houston secondary, or Lashawn

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Speaker 1: McCoy versus the eighth ranked run defense. Sixty percent of

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Speaker 1: you like the Tray White DeAndre Hopkins, and I'm it's

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Speaker 1: hard to argue with it. Really, It's a lead on

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Speaker 1: a lead, you know what I mean. It's elite on

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Speaker 1: a lead. And that's what Yeah, people grab it. That's

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Speaker 1: why people watch this league to watch the best of

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Speaker 1: the best go against each other. And that's the one

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00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: people will be watching on Sunday. Be interesting because Hopkins

817
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: is gonna get some targets no matter what, absolutely right

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00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: away to him at least twelve times, right maybe more.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that whether he's covered or not

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00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: right now, I don't know that that Trey White is

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Speaker 1: going to be on him for all of those targets.

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00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean, what will happen is and I get this

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00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: and we always say, hey, he's gonna match up with

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Speaker 1: them all day, Well it might be ninety percent of

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00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: the time or eighty percent of the time. But if

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Speaker 1: they do the same thing all the time, they start

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Speaker 1: to become predictable, and then the Texans can make them

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Speaker 1: pay for that. There's an interesting part of Buffalo's defensive

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Speaker 1: equation that I think could be a bit of an

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Speaker 1: unknown factor here, and that is Dante Johnson, the cornerback

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Speaker 1: they signed or got off waivers just last week. Six

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Speaker 1: two two hundred pounds long arms and you've got some

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00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: tall targets here in the Houston receiving corps, and I wonder,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they find a way to get him

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Speaker 1: on the field, maybe against three and four wide you

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00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: know groups, when you go sub package, maybe he's on

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Speaker 1: the field even more than that. I mean, we have

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Speaker 1: to remember Dante Johnson has started in this league for

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Speaker 1: two seasons. He started for San Francisco. He goes to

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Speaker 1: Seattle in free agency this past offseason and wins a

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Speaker 1: starting job in the Seattle secondary. So basically him and

842
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman flip flopped between San fran and Seattle. He

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00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: won a starting cornerback role in Seattle, then he stoinked

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Speaker 1: his groin and was out with a groin injury. They

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Speaker 1: put him on ir even though it wasn't a season

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Speaker 1: ending groin injury, and then he reaches an injury settlement,

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Speaker 1: gets his release and the Bills claim him off waivers.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy that started in the league. If

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Speaker 1: they feel he knows enough of his defense to play

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Speaker 1: in it. He's got the height and length that you

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Speaker 1: want against the receiving cords like this. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: he gets on the field for some place, which I

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Speaker 1: saw the guy on the field and I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 1: he's that's a strike it. I'm like, wow, he's big,

855
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Speaker 1: he's got some side. Yeah, and he has started and

856
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: he's been here for a week or so, so maybe

857
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Speaker 1: they can get him lined out and you have to

858
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: lean on Jordan Poyer and if Micah hides back in there,

859
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: you got some safeties and him lined up and get

860
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: him straightened down. That's a it's an interesting concept. If

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Speaker 1: you want to get in on this conversation, you can

862
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: eight or three, five fifty After the break, we're gonna

863
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Speaker 1: come back and we're gonna talk to John McLean, forty

864
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Speaker 1: three year Houston at the Houston Chronicle, forty years covering

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Speaker 1: the NFL. He covered the Houston Texans covered us with me,

866
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: the Houston Oilers. He's been around forever and he's gonna

867
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Speaker 1: talk to us right after the break. This is One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radios

869
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Speaker 1: Radio Network. Stories stop date. The Bills continue preparing to

870
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Speaker 1: face the Texans in Houston this Sunday. The Texans of

871
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: place cornerback Kivon Cavon Webster on ir four quad injuries

872
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: suffered in last week's win over the Cowboys. The Eagles

873
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: will be facing the Giants tonight, but not without a

874
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: few injuries. Giants tight end Evan Ingram has been ruled

875
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: out for tonight's game with a knee injury, and Eagles

876
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: offensive tackle Lane Johnson is listed as questionable with an

877
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: ankle injury. The NFL has fined Steeler's head coach Mike

878
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: Tomlin twenty five grand for harsh words against the officials

879
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh's forty one to seventeen win over Atlanta. Tomlin

880
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: voiced his frustration after the game, where fourteen penalty flags

881
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: were thrown and accepted. Vikings cornerback train Williams Trey Waynes

882
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: excuse me, is out of the concussion protocol, and he

883
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: said he expects to play when Minnesota hosts the Cardinals.

884
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: Waynes sustained a concussion before halftime and the Week four

885
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: loss to the Rams, where he allowed a touchdown to

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Despite having a ten day break between games,

887
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: the Colts may be without some key players against the

888
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: Jets Sunday. Receiver t Y Hilton is out with a

889
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: hamstring injury, tight end Jack Doyle with a hip injury.

890
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: Both are considered week to week, and safety Clayton Gathers

891
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: suffered a neck injury and concussion against against New England

892
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: last week and is in the concussion protocol. Falcon's defensive

893
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: tackles Grady Jarrett's fine for a hit on Eagles quarterback

894
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Nick Foles during the season open opener has been rescinded

895
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: by the NFL following an appeal. Jarrett was penalized for

896
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: roughing Fools, but insisted it was a legal hit. Since

897
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Speaker 1: the beginning, the Sabers host the Avalanche to night puck

898
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: drop at seven pm. You can catch pregame coverage on

899
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: Sabers Game Night with Brian Duff and Martin Braun at

900
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: six thirty pm on MSG and that is your sports

901
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: update Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown on One Bills Live.

902
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: We are pleased to be joined right now by a

903
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: veteran of the NFL media who has covered the National

904
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Speaker 1: Football League for forty years forty three years with the

905
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Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle in the Houston Texans beat writer NFL writer

906
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Speaker 1: John McLean. John, thank you so much for joining us.

907
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown on One Bill's Live.

908
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: How are you today. I've been covering the oilers so long.

909
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: I remember when covering the NFL here, I remember when

910
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: Steve was an oiler and the biggest mistake they ever made.

911
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't know about the biggest mistake they ever made,

912
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: but it was fun. Well it lasted, but it worked

913
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: out pretty well, didn't it for me? It did? Yeah?

914
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: What was it? Since you've been doing this for so long,

915
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: do you remember the first guy, first Houston oiler you

916
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Speaker 1: ever spoke to. Let's see, that would have been in

917
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven at training camp at Nacodoches, Texas, where

918
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: they stayed one year, And I went there at night

919
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: and the Major League Baseball All Star Game was on

920
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: a black and white TV in the back of the

921
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: dorm and I'm a big baseball fan and I sat down,

922
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: hadn't spoken to anybody. This bond headed guy came up

923
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: set next to me and I said, I'm John mcclaim

924
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Speaker 1: from the Chronicle, and he goes, Wade, Wade Phillips. Wade Phillips. First, Wow,

925
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: that's amazing. And here he is. He's in his seventies,

926
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Speaker 1: still coaching and being a coordinator. And you're still there

927
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Speaker 1: at the Houston Chronicle as well, although he's been around

928
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: the block a few times. Looks like you stayed at home.

929
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Speaker 1: I think it is so funny. There is there a

930
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Speaker 1: team that Wade is not coached coached with. I think

931
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Speaker 1: that list is shorter than the one he has coached for. Yeah,

932
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Speaker 1: you're listening to you. I wanted to ask you something

933
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: about your At Houston Texans, they got a quarterback and

934
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, who and I saw it the other night too.

935
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: He is a tough cookie. Some of that, though, is

936
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Speaker 1: self inflicted, is it not? John? A lot of itself inflicted.

937
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: Especially in the Cowboy game. He was sacked one time

938
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Speaker 1: for one yard from the one yard line. At the

939
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Speaker 1: end of the first half. The offensive line he was

940
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: pressured twenty percent of the time in that game, according

941
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Speaker 1: to NFL Next Generation Stats. But when they were inside

942
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: the five yard line and he could not get a receiver,

943
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: he ran to the corner and got obliterated by three

944
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: Cowboys twice coming up short of a touchdown. And he

945
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: was hit ten times in that game, not counting his

946
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: ten carries, and only one of the carries did his slide.

947
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Speaker 1: And so, like my column today was all about, he

948
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: has got to reduce the number of hits. Throw it away, slide,

949
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: don't keep trying to be a hero. And Bill O'Brien,

950
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: the coach, says, it's hard when a guy is so

951
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: competitive and he's so close to a touchdown to tell

952
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: him to go out of bounds or throw it away.

953
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: But considering how beat up he is, they hoping that

954
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: he learned a lesson O'Brien yesterday, and Steve, you know this,

955
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: you'd learn your lessons from experience. And that's the most

956
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: he's been beat up, and he's been hit more, but

957
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: getting hit by multiple players trying to run for touchdowns,

958
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: that's the first. And he didn't do that last year

959
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: in his seven games, but all of a sudden this

960
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: year he has been and that might have been an

961
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: offshoot of an ozh three start. See but John, you know,

962
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: I know he's been sacked eighteen times, and we just

963
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: put up some stats here saying he's been hit fifty

964
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: two times this season. I had it even more than

965
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: that just going off the NFL gamebooks for the first

966
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: five weeks, because in addition to those eighteen sacks, I

967
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: counted up fifty four quarterback hits through the first five games.

968
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just eleven hits a game. They're not

969
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: even counting those sacks, so you're talking upwards of thirteen

970
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: without him even leaving the pocket necessarily or at least

971
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: getting past the line of scrimmage. I mean, this is

972
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: not sustainable. He's not going to make it through sixteen games,

973
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: which on what Bill O'Brien said, this is not a

974
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: sustainable way to play. Going into the Dallas games Sunday night,

975
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: he was on the pace to be sacked sixty eight

976
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: times and hit another one hundred and seventy two times

977
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: where they reduced the sacks, and a lot of those

978
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: sacks are his thought for holding a ball too long

979
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: in the previous game. He ends as a Giants their

980
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: color guy in Andre Ware, former quarterback, was heard two

981
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: times when he was holding the ball, throw it, throw it,

982
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: throw it, boom and we all could see it get

983
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: rid of the ball. And so it's not that he

984
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: doesn't know. He's supposed to. He's competitive, but he has

985
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: got to be much smarter when he's got the ball. Well.

986
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: A lot of times when a quarterback gets hit, everybody

987
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: points to the offensive line. How is his offensive line

988
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: playing in front of him both passing in the passing

989
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: game and in the running game? Is his o line

990
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: holding up there into the bargain? His former Bills offensive

991
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: lineman Mike Evlon is the coach, and we were Mike

992
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: came there in nineteen ninety three. I asked him if

993
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: he was there for the choke and he looked at

994
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: me and I said to comeback in Buffalo and he said, now.

995
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: I was there the year after. And Mike is a

996
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: really good line coach. This is the first time this

997
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: season he'll be able to start the same five. They're

998
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: not very good. They don't have a lot invested in

999
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: their line. The center Nick Martin was two this year.

1000
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: They spent a three on a tackle Martinez Rankett, who

1001
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: was benched last week. So across the board, they got

1002
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: two veteran free agents at guard, they have a left tackle,

1003
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, and a right tackle who was

1004
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent. And they have a one in

1005
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: two two. Is I guarantee you that one is going

1006
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: to be an offensive tackle? Yeah, because I was just

1007
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: looking at some of the games on the All twenty

1008
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: two John, and it looks like some of their opponents

1009
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: have been able to generate pretty effective pressure, pretty consistent pressure,

1010
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: just with a front four. I mean, what have you

1011
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: seen through the first five games that front four has

1012
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: had an unusual amount of success against that group. But

1013
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: it started in the first game. Jandrelle Henderson, whom you

1014
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: guys know very well, was firmly entrenched at right tackle,

1015
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: and then he suffered a season ending broken ankle, so

1016
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: they moved the left tackle the right tackle, bringing the

1017
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: rookie put him at left tackle. Ranking he had missed

1018
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: three months of the offseason program after having ankle's surgery,

1019
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: so he was like thrown to the wolves and he

1020
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: wasn't ready. And then the left guards and he Okallamete

1021
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: heard his knees. So they have had a lack of continuity.

1022
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: We asked Mike Devilon this morning, what was it like

1023
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: to have your same five together for a second time,

1024
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: and he said, a miracle. And you guys know from

1025
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: continuity the Bills are having similar problems because injuries and

1026
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: retirement and trade and and it takes a while to

1027
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: do it. And it's tough when you got to get

1028
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: them quarterback who's under pressure most of the time. The

1029
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: Texans were first in the league and rushing after the

1030
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: first two games, and in the last three that miss

1031
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. They're starting back. In the last game against Cowboys,

1032
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: the backs had not been able to run worth it

1033
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: darn and if it wasn't for Watson gaining yards, they

1034
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't be tenth in the league. Their backs are averaging

1035
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: like two yards to carry over the last three games.

1036
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: They get Lamar Miller back. But I think one reason

1037
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: they're pathetic in the red zone as teams don't respect

1038
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: them when they get inside the five yard line. They

1039
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: don't respect the run. Everything is stopping the baths. When

1040
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: Arian Foster was here and Gary kuldbyet got the ball

1041
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: inside the five, Foster was going to get it, so

1042
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: teams had to bunch up more defensive players, which left

1043
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: the white house open. And they were so much better

1044
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: in the red zone. And yet he's thrown for three

1045
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five yards or more each of the

1046
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 1: last three weeks despite all of these deficiencies. It's funny

1047
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: that we're complaining, but and here's such a discrepancy. And

1048
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: when Watson went out last year, they were number one

1049
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: in red zone touchdown sixty seven percent. Had he been

1050
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: able to sustain that for the season, they would have

1051
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: led the NFL. Philadelphia the second at sixty five, but

1052
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: the Eagles ended up being first. So you have the

1053
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: same play caller and Bill O'Brien, you have the same

1054
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: quarterback into Shaun Watson, more experienced, and right now, instead

1055
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: of sixty seven percent, their thirty six. And the only

1056
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: team worse is the Jets. Where one Bills live with

1057
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: Chris Brown Steve Taskworth speaking with John McLean forty three

1058
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: years at the Houston Chronicle, and he's the Texas, the

1059
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: Houston Texans beat writer. He's been covering the National Football

1060
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: League for four decades. And I want to ask you

1061
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: also just stay on the defensive. Let's move to the

1062
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. For the Texans. They've got

1063
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: a lot of corners heard, they've got their secondary has

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00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: been ravaged a little talk a little bit about their

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00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: past defense, and we'll get to their front seven in

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00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: a minute. Their secondary. They have three new safeties. They

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00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: moved cornerback. Kareem Jackson is safety. It's his ninth season.

1068
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 1: They used their top pick, which was a third rounder,

1069
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: on Justin Reid from Stanford and he's been tremendous. And

1070
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: then they signed Tyron Matthews, so they have all new safeties,

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00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: which was a week position last year, and they've lost

1072
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: three of their top four corners in the last three weeks,

1073
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: so Jackson's seeing a lot more action at corner along

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00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: with Johnson Joseph. Those two guys have been together since

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00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: two thousand and since two thousand and eleven, and Jackson's

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00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: playing so well at safety they don't want to move him,

1077
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: but they don't have anybody else. Kevin Johnson, Aaron Colvin,

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00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: and now Kava and Webster they're gone, and they're lucky

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00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: that Matthews played corner. Jackson has covered slot receivers for years.

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00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 1: Justin Read is fast enough and talented enough to where

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00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: he can cover receivers, so they've been able to adjust

1082
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: and of course if it helps that they get a

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00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: pass rush. Yeah, their pass rush is really second to none.

1084
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: Gadavian Clowney and J. J. Watt and Merciless, I mean

1085
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: they are they're a special group. John, I mean, you've

1086
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: been covering it for a long time, but is there

1087
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: anybody in the history of the game that maybe as

1088
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: matches these guys athletically, well, one of not many, because

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00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: they're all very athletic, as you mentioned. And the thing is,

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00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: they all missed the offseason program with injuries. White recuperating

1091
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: from the broken leg he suffered in the fifth game

1092
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: last year. Merciless had recuperated from the torn biceps that

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00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: he had suffered in the same game last year. Merciless

1094
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: was healthy after the offseason. Then he really suffered a

1095
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: bad hamstring injury and early in camp miss arrested camp,

1096
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: miss p preseason, so it's almost like this is its preseason.

1097
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: We thought he had kind of come around. Out against

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00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: the Colts, he had three ins and a quarterback and

1099
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: a tackle for loss on a running play and he

1100
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: did him show up on stat sheet. And the last

1101
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: game against the Cowboys, what is back to where he

1102
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: was in two fifteen when he won his third consecutive

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00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: NFL Defensive Player of the Year award. And Clowney got

1104
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: off to a really slow start, and then the last

1105
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: two games that has been great. So those two guys.

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00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: Clown he plays linebacker, but he lines up outside. They'll

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00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: move him over the middle what sometimes will swap sides

1108
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: trying to create a mismatch. And it's really hard, I'm

1109
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: sure for offensive coordinators to try to coordinate their protection

1110
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: to keep those two guys at bay. Well, there's no

1111
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: question about it. The Buffalo Bills have allowed a league

1112
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: high twenty two sacks this season. And that being said,

1113
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean, what do other teams do, I mean besides

1114
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: get rid of the football with a three step drop

1115
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: or try and run the football maybe right at him.

1116
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: What the teams you generally as a tactic against. You know,

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01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: the front seven of the Texans was playing so well

1118
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: when they went to Tennessee after losing at seven by

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: seven at Gillette Stadium start the season. The Titans had

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Speaker 1: their quarterback to tied in and their top three offensive

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01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: tackles out. I picked the Texans to win, and they

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01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: blew it because Blaine gathered. It was three steps and

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01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: the ball was going somewhere. He was not going to

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01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: hold that ball beyond three steps. It was a great

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01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: strategy and they won. They kind of won. Beat the

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Speaker 1: Texans like the Bills beat the Titans, you know, with

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01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: Phil calls good defense and a running game. And then

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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys Sunday night, Cowboys had Ezekiel Elliott. He

1129
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: came in legal leading rushier at five point eight yards

1130
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: Kerry and the Texans just totally shut him down. It's

1131
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: runner and receiver and because they don't have receivers, and

1132
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: the Texans played their best defensive game by far. And

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01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: so I know, based on what they saw Sean McDermott

1134
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: do in the Titans game, which is go back to

1135
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: throwback football, that they'll everything will be about trying to

1136
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: contain with Sean McCoy and don't let Alan run, make

1137
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: him throw, keep him in the pocket. And they've been

1138
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: pretty good at that. But I say this, in the

1139
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: previous two games against Andrew Luck and Eli Manning, they

1140
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: just shredded the secondary, I mean shredded him and they

1141
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 1: lost to the Giants by five. Should have beaten them.

1142
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: And then they beat the Coats in overtime on the

1143
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: last play, so it'll be it'll be a good test

1144
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: for the Bills and Josh Allen. I'm really eager to

1145
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: see him. They also play Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnell.

1146
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: The only one they miss is Josh Rosen and and

1147
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: after following those guys in the offseason and last year

1148
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: in college, I'm eager to see Allen in first. And

1149
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: then what John do you have for us? You know,

1150
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: for their special teams, because you know we don't fare

1151
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: and had the nice kick at the end last week,

1152
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: but their kick return unit looks to be right up

1153
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: there at the top. Their punt return unit's pretty good.

1154
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: Who's who's doing duty for them back there? And well,

1155
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: they were awful in recent years as special teams. They

1156
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: Brian's fired two coaches. He hired Brad Seely, who's one

1157
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: of the best bred one three rings in New England.

1158
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: Last year he got caught up in a John Gruden purge.

1159
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: So Bill O'Brien, who knew him, jumped all over him,

1160
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: brought his two brought Seely's two assistants, and instead of

1161
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: being a detriment like they have been, they've actually impacted

1162
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: Phil position. They got a new putter kid named Trevor

1163
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: Daniel from Tennessee who beat out Saint Lachlair Farren Square

1164
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 1: with surprise a lot of people. And then their return game.

1165
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: While they don't have a kid Tyler Irvin who's going

1166
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: to go the distance, he's doing it better than anybody

1167
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: they've had in recent years, and their coverage has been better.

1168
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: They gave up the worst thing about special teams in Tennessee.

1169
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: They didn't cover one of the gunners and he got

1170
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: a long touchdown pass and we just killed them for that.

1171
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: But other than that one play, they've been very solid

1172
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: on special teams. We're talking with John McLean, Houston Chronicles

1173
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: and the Houston Texans beat writer cover the NFL for

1174
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: forty years, and John, I want to ask you something

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01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: about the coaching staff of the Texans. It seems like

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01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: they've got a great mix of a young head, youngish

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01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: head coach and Bill O'Brien who's a real leader and

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01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: real hardcore guy and a no nonsense type. You got

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01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell on that staff. Talk a little bit about

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01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: the staff that Bill O'Brien has put together and how

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01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: he's perceived by the fan base in Houston. Well, if

1182
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: you ask the fans here and the talk clos too,

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01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: or they want them all fired yesterday. And if they win,

1184
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: like win two overtime games in a row, it's not

1185
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: good enough. You know, you lose a close game in Tennessee,

1186
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: everybody wants O'Brian gone. And I do these national shows

1187
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: and they asked me about his seat being odd. I said, yeah,

1188
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: it's so hot. He's got a four year extension that

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01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: kicks in after the first of the year. He's not

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01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: going anywhere. He's the one that coaches Watson, puts together

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01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: the game plan and calls the plays. And I think

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01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: Bill has done a good job. He took over two

1193
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 1: fourteen team when nine to seven three years in a row,

1194
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: won two division titles, went to the playoffs twice and

1195
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: won one game. And then last year they had twenty

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01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: three players on ir, including thirteen starters. So it was

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01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: understandable when they've win his four and twelve, people just

1198
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: kind of understood it and blew it off. But the

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01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: slow start this year is just infuriated people. I think

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01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: the staff's good. I've done no Romeo is good. They

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01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: O'Brien doesn't have an offensive coordinator, but one of the

1202
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: coaches he hired, John Pagano, was forever one of the

1203
01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: best defensive coordinators in the NFL for the Chargers, and

1204
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: they got John Timing was good to come in here

1205
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: a coach outside linebackers. And I think he does I

1206
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: know he does a good job, and so he's got

1207
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: a good staff. He makes changes every year. He doesn't

1208
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:17,479
Speaker 1: stand that and their staff is good. And O'Brien takes

1209
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: a lot of great but that's why they pay him

1210
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: the big bucks. There you go, John, thank you for this.

1211
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Speaker 1: We appreciate you taking the time here on one. Appreciate it,

1212
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: and I wish you another forty years there at the

1213
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,479
Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle another and covering the NFL. My wife wanted

1214
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: me to work up seventy five. I told her no way.

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01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: Thank thank you, John, appreciate it. John McClean, Houston Chronicle. Uh,

1216
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: he's one of Texas to be right, he really is.

1217
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: And he's always been one of those gays like he's

1218
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of local beat writers. Sometimes the team

1219
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: doesn't like him too much, but he usually has a

1220
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: pretty good handle. Yeah, and always accommodating too. Um. You know,

1221
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: we see him at the combine every year, and he's

1222
01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: always been a big person in the PFWA, right, you know,

1223
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: in terms of leading that group. And I mean he's

1224
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: just quintessential professional. So, you know, certainly somebody I respect

1225
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: in the business. What do you think about some of

1226
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: the things he said predicting about their defensive front. They

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01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: just they're a nasty that's what this may be the

1228
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: best defensive Yeah, that's the biggest concern for me. And

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01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: I know I mentioned it when I was out on

1230
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: the practice field when I was on with you earlier.

1231
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: The concern for me is this isn't just good quality

1232
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: NFL talent. This is elite talent, like top five talent.

1233
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: You know, you're not gonna find five jack linebackers that

1234
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: are better than Jadavian Clowney in the NFL. You're not

1235
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: gonna find five defensive ends in a three four scheme

1236
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: that are better than JJ Watt. So you have those

1237
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: two guys on opposite sides, how are you sliding your protection?

1238
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, how what are you doing when

1239
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: you have those two guys as bookends. It's it's really

1240
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: that's a big ask, you know, for any offensive line,

1241
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: let alone to Bill's offensive and that's what you're up against.

1242
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: And I think also he said, you know, they've got

1243
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: a nondescript offensive line, a little bit like Buffalo's offensive line,

1244
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: where you kind of put it together. It sounds in

1245
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: rougher shape. It does. It does, and I think it's

1246
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: right they didn't invest too much in it. No draft picks.

1247
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 1: They got a couple of I got one guy who's

1248
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent playing right tackle. And I but

1249
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: even having said that, the pressure that Deshaun Watson the

1250
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: quarterback has been under hasn't all been because of the

1251
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: offensive line. They've been passable, I guess, is what we're saying. Yeah,

1252
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: I think they're twenty I was looking up some PFF

1253
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: stats the other day. They're twenty seventh in past blocking efficiency.

1254
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: But you heard John say some of the problems for

1255
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: Watson are self inflicted, whether he's holding onto the ball

1256
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: too long or taken off to run quarterback. Yeah, I

1257
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I think he just he wants it all

1258
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: right now, and sometimes that's gonna get the best to him.

1259
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna find himself on the sidelines again. You know,

1260
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: last year was kind of a freak injury with the knee,

1261
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: but he cannot keep taking hits like that. He's not

1262
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: gonna get through sixteen games. Yeah. It's interesting too because

1263
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: we've talked about a lot about all this stuff, and

1264
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: we never got into DeAndre Hopkins and how a lead

1265
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: of a receiver he is. I don't ask him about

1266
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 1: him and DeAndre Hopkins and Tradevius Wide and that matchup

1267
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: and what he was looking for there. But there's no

1268
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: que I mean, what are you gonna ask him? How

1269
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: good is DeAndre Hopkins? He's he's good. Good, confirmed it

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Speaker 1: confirmed exactly. But that's you know, I think this game.

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Speaker 1: These are two teams I think that right now are

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Speaker 1: playing football a little bit alike were there, but with

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Speaker 1: the exception of I think they're throwing the football better

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Speaker 1: with DeAndre Hopkins. But their red zone offense has deserted them.

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Speaker 1: And he's right. John McClane told us last year their

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Speaker 1: red zone offense was really good and they were scoring

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Speaker 1: points in bundles. They had the number one offense scoring

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Speaker 1: offense for five weeks of the season in one stretch

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Speaker 1: when Desaun right before Deshaun Watson got hurt, they had

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Speaker 1: the number one scoring offense and the number one defense going.

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Speaker 1: They were putting it together in a big hurry down

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Speaker 1: there and all and like he said, twenty eleven starters

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01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: go off the field on RR and then it all

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: came apart. They're having a tough time getting those tough

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Speaker 1: yards down there. You know, when the space is tight

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Speaker 1: down in the red zone, nobody's respecting them in terms

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Speaker 1: of running the football down in there. So they're playing

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01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: coverage and covering up the end zone and all the

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Speaker 1: receivers because they know they're largely a one dimensional offense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at some of their rushing numbers,

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Speaker 1: you know, as far as what they've been able to

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Speaker 1: do this season. You know, Lamar Miller has been out

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. He's still the leading rusher,

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Speaker 1: but Watson's only twenty four yards behind him in terms

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Speaker 1: of rushing. So I mean, they got to get their

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Speaker 1: run game going, which is something that we hear every

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Speaker 1: week here in Buffalo. All right, we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back with more on the Buffalo at

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans matchup. Coming up. We've got some stuff from

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and Joe Flacco and what Joe Flacco's wife

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01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: told him. Derek Anderson, new quarterback for the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: is coming on and lots more. We've got a Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna reset after the break. This is One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to one Bills Live. Steve Task along with Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown Murph is off for today. We are running along

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Speaker 1: with this little Twitter poll. We've got what matchup are

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Speaker 1: you most looking forward to this Sunday as the Buffalo

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01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: Bills take on the Houston Texans. One is Traday White,

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Speaker 1: Tradevius White versus DeAndre Hopkins. Another is the Houston defensive

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Speaker 1: ends versus the Bills offensive line, Josh Allen against a

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Speaker 1: Houston secondary that has been depleted by the way, and

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Speaker 1: or Lashawn McCoy versus the eighth rank run defense in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. Of the people already go with

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Speaker 1: Tradevius White versus DeAndre Hopkins. Twenty two percent say Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen versus the Houston secondary, ten percent Houston d and

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: Bills Oline, and nine percent say LaShaun McCoy against the

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Speaker 1: eighth rank run defense. We have some people chiming in

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. This from a guy named Jello

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01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: every game. Yeah, what can I say? I just read

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Speaker 1: what's in front of me every game this season. I

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Speaker 1: look forward to watching Alan and seeing if or how

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01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: he's progressed from the last game the second. I keep

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01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: looking for a receiver to finally step up and become

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Speaker 1: the go to guy. I don't know if we have

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Speaker 1: anyone right now capable of it. From a guy named

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Speaker 1: Jello on the tweet sheet, and if you want to

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Speaker 1: get in on this Twitter conversation we're having, you can

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Speaker 1: call us at eight three five fifty or one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or you can

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Speaker 1: at us at one bills live on Twitter. Also from

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Speaker 1: Chris Rowlike on the tweet sheet. Definitely looking forward to

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Speaker 1: the tray matchup against Hopkins. I think our pass rush

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01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: will be really successful against Watson, who tends to hold

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Speaker 1: the ball take a lot of sacks. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: going to use his biggest weapon, so hopefully we can

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Speaker 1: force him into some tight throws. That from Chris roy

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Speaker 1: which is you know a lot of people are right

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01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 1: there with him. I think that matchup between Tredavious White

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Speaker 1: and DeAndre Hopkins is really something a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are going to be watching. Yeah, the offside of Bill's

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Speaker 1: Houston's fan base. The only shame of it is for

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Speaker 1: television viewers. You know, that's often not in the frame

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01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: unless he's being thrown to and even then it's at

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01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: the tail end of the play. I mean, obviously they'll

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01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: have all different angles, and I'm sure they'll have some

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01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: ISO cameras on those two guys. But you know how

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01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,879
Speaker 1: football broadcasts work. You know they're going to be following

1349
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: the ball and all that. If if the analyst I

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01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: think it, who is it is? It? Is it Andrew

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01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: Catalan and James Lofton. That's exactly who it is. It's

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Speaker 1: my friend Andrew Catalan and my former teammate and good

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01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: friend James Lofton. They're doing the game this week. James

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01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: may have that, being the former being a Hall of

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01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: Fame wide receiver. Maybe he'll put that the top of

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Speaker 1: his list. Have an ISO monitor on DeAndre think, what

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01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: did you have to? Yeah? Maybe I should text him

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01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: tell him to do that. Hey, Justice thought, Hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: I've got a radio show next week. Could you get

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: me some ISO tape of do me a solid and

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01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: change your entire broadcast for my wishes? He might not

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01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: do that, but I really do. I think listen to Davis.

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01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: White is as good at corner as there is in

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01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: the National Football League right now. Last year he burst

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Speaker 1: onto the scene as a rookie and everybody was, wow,

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01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 1: look at that guy. Now it's becoming commonplace. The guy

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Speaker 1: is a shut down corner. He does that every week

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Speaker 1: and holds guys off the board. And DeAndre Hopkins is

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Speaker 1: one of those guys that you won't hold off the board.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna get him in catches. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: get some catches. There's no way around it. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be really interesting to see how good

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Speaker 1: Trey White can do it. And you see there for

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Speaker 1: those people watching on MSG, DeAndre Hopkins most reception yards

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Speaker 1: through the first five games since two thousand and he

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Speaker 1: is number five on that list, behind Wes Welker, Santana Moss,

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Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior, Isaac Bruce, Santana Moss all the way

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Speaker 1: back in two thousand and five. He's got five hundred

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins five hundred and ninety four yards. Of course,

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Speaker 1: in two thousand eleven, Wes Welker had seven hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty through five games. That's when the two eleven year

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01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 1: with when he was still with the Patriots. Yeah, that

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01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 1: was pre Peyton Manning and Denver Bronco move for Wes Welker.

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Speaker 1: But that's a through five games. He's got five hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninety four yards of receiving. He had one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty one last week on nine receptions. I think

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Speaker 1: I remember that right, and and some of these and

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: we all saw the overtime catch that he made in

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01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: the spin runs and run might have been better than

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Speaker 1: the catch. Yeah, yeah, no question, the run was better

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Speaker 1: than the catch. That the catch was, you know, an

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Speaker 1: easy grab, but that run afterwards that put him down

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Speaker 1: inside the field goal rangers was something special. He's I mean, um,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the answer. That's the let me just in

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Speaker 1: this poll where everybody has an opinion, the correct answer

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Speaker 1: is the one that agrees with me. Trey Davis White

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01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: and Theandre Hopkins is the matchup you should most look

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Speaker 1: forward to. And I know Houston's defensive ends, uh and

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Speaker 1: I think I fall in line with a lot of

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01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: Bills fins. I don't want to see that because I

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01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: don't know if we can hold up. You're worried it's

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01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: gonna be You're worried it's gonna go the the wrong way.

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01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's against the Houston secondary. That may be one

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01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: that has a chance to be a pleasant surprise. That

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01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: was That was actually the top thing on Murph's storylines

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01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: this week on Buffalo bills dot Com. You know, another

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01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: road test for Josh Allen. And it's true, you know,

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01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,879
Speaker 1: against a beat up secondary. Maybe some of those windows

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01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: are a little bigger. Yeah, but how much do you

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01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: do you want him doing a five step drop against

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Speaker 1: this defensive front. I mean, I don't know. I think

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01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: he's got to find somebody fast get rid of the

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01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: football and if he can, then then that's what it

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Speaker 1: needs to be. And that's a loud building too. I

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01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: mean again, yeah, you're talking about another the road atmosphere.

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01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: I think they want to make quick, easy decisions or

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01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: put quick easy decisions in front of Josh so he's

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01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: not back. They're patting the ball because I pats the

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Speaker 1: ball one time, two times, he's gonna be on his back.

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Speaker 1: I still think the Bills are looking to really for

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01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: the first time, or not for the first time, but

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01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: to put more than thirteen points up to I mean

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01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: they struggled against the text, and I mean the Titans

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Speaker 1: in that they've got to put more than thirds get.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I just think it for some reason,

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a grinded out type game,

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01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: just like last week. I think it will, and that's

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01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: perfectly fine by the Bills. Listen those games, those games, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those those games tend to be closed. When the Bills

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01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 1: dropped down by two scores, you know they're how to

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01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: come from behind. They're not built. Josh Allen is not

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01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: ready to be throwing the football all over the yard

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Speaker 1: forty five times. And if they get put into that situation,

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01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna be up against it. Um Deshaun,

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01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: there's no question Deshaan wash Forget what you're hearing about

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01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: him being questionable or day to day. He's gonna play.

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Speaker 1: And I think the answer that you find for Deshaun Watson,

1438
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: I think if they can get him, keep him in

1439
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: the pocket, force him to play quarterback, and take DeAndre

1440
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: Hopkins away, then maybe you're trying to force the Texans

1441
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: to beat you left handed. It's not something they're really

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01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: ready to do, right. So, and what about Murf's second

1443
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: storyline in his story this week, what about the run game?

1444
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: Is it okay to rely on that? Now? Were you?

1445
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't super productive last week, but it

1446
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: did the job absolutely and they and they found I

1447
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: think creative ways. It is a top ten run defense

1448
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: or facing. I'm we spoke at the top of the

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01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: show when you were out at practice about um, you know,

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01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: different personnel formations, different different personnel combinations and formations with

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01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: shifts and motions, plus you know, going heavy at times

1452
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: to try and keep the Texans off balance. But the

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01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: run game can't evaporate if the Bills want to have

1454
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 1: a chance to win, and then the ability to keep

1455
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: the game close and to stay with the running game

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01:17:55,280 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: even when they haven't had much success. I think it's

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01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: crucial for Josh Allen, for the team and for the

1458
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: defense to keep them on the sidelines for a little

1459
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: bit so they don't come out and those three and

1460
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: outs are just not acceptable. Yeah. He I thought mursh

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Speaker 1: most interesting one in his top seven storylines on Buffalo

1462
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 1: Bills dot com. Which defensive rookie steps up next. We've

1463
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: seen tarn Johnson, We've seen Jermaine Edmonds. You even had

1464
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Lewis making some plays, although he had to pick

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01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: six that he didn't capitalize on in Green Bay. He's

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01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 1: a first year player technically, but for all intents and purposes,

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Speaker 1: a rookie. So who who makes a play this week?

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01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: Because it seems like they're all taking turns on that

1469
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: side of the well Terrrison Phillips turned two. I mean

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Speaker 1: he hasn't had a chance to do anything. He's had

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01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 1: twenty four snaps a game or about there about. They

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01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: need some help up in the inside. They did get

1473
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips off the off the wave ward from the

1474
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins last weekend. He's a big body, so that'll give

1475
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: him some push up inside as well. This, let's face it,

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01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: brand know you agree with me on this. This is

1477
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 1: a team that needs to get turnovers, and that defense

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Speaker 1: is where it's going to happen. The Bills just cannot

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Speaker 1: give it away offensively. They've got to stay competitive offensively,

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01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 1: stay on the field if they can offensively, even if

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01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: they're not going to score thirty five points. But the

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Speaker 1: defense has got to get the Texans off the field,

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01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: and if they don't, they got to get turnovers, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the recipe that they've got to really

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Speaker 1: live by. Yeah, well you look at it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: last week they're a plus two, they get three takeaways,

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Speaker 1: get one giveaway off a deflected pass reception, and they

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Speaker 1: finish plus two and they win by one. You know,

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Speaker 1: and granted they had three points come off the board

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Speaker 1: on a botched situation on a field goal snap. But

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to finish plus two almost

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Speaker 1: every week to have a chance to win football games.

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Speaker 1: And that's not saying they can't do it, because they

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Speaker 1: have and when they do, they win. So hey, stick

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Speaker 1: with the formula. Man, Oh yeah, are you Yeah? I

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01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: mean that's easier said then done. I get it, because

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Speaker 1: you know, you look at Watson's numbers and as much

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Speaker 1: as he's been hint, you know, you figure a guy

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01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,799
Speaker 1: under duress might be a little gun shy. Eight picks

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Speaker 1: against five interceptions, and you know, you look at the

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01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: Texans and they've lost only three fumbles on the year

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01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: r So, knowing how much they've thrown the football and

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01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: how much Watson has gone out and scrambled around, that's

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01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: not too many giveaways. That's right. You know, you're with

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01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Chris Brown on One Bills Live. We're

1506
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: talking about the Bills Texans this week, and Murph is

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01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: out today, so in his absence, we're talking about the

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01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: story he wrote for Buffalo Bills dot Com Seven storylines

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01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: for the Bills and Texans this week, and it's We've

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01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: been over and over this a bunch, and what it

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01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: boils down to is a really two really good defensive fronts,

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01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 1: two young quarterbacks. The Buffalo Bill's strength would probably be

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01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: our secondary the text, since secondary has been depleted, but

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01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: the Bills passing game has not been able to take

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01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: advantage of anything. I mean this, these two teams strengths

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01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: and weaknesses mesh almost perfectly to make this game like

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01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: a two to nothing, you know, epic performance by these defenses.

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01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's it really looks like it's going to

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01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: be a low scoring game. That's if, and that's really

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01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: if the Houston Texans red zone offense doesn't snap out

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01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: of the funk that it's in. Yeah, which is why

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01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: did you read this h Twitter post from Brian Cook?

1523
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: Because I thought this was interest as interesting as Sunday's

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01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: game is being discussed here because he was talking about

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01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: the matchups on your Twitter ahead saying Josh Allen versus

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Speaker 1: the Houston secondary, but he doesn't. He says Alan versus

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01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: the Houston secondary. But then he mentions Chris Ivory. So

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01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 1: he says the reasons because their depth issues related to

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01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: injury issues in the secondary, which we've covered. But he said,

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01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: if we can scheme to get Ivory to the secondary

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01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: running over corners and safeties early, it can pay big

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01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 1: divid late in the game. Tough to cover wide receivers

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01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: if you've been bulldozed all game. There's some there's some

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01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: merit to that, but I don't know how you scheme.

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01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 1: If Chris Ivory's running through the secondary, you're not throwing it.

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01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna keep running Ivory into the secondary, which is

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01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 1: why I'd be doing Ivory versus the second Maybe yeah,

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01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 1: and maybe if Chris Ivory does catch the ball and

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01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: get in get loose and starts punishing some people, as

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01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: I know this too, and that's just you know. We

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01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: had John McLean from the Houston Chronicle on the show

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01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: earlier and he remembers the Houston Oilers and Earl Campbell

1543
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: and all those guys. If you've got a guy like

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01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 1: Earl Campbell and a guy like Chris Ivory showed against

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01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 1: the Titans, those guys in the secondary get get sick

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01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 1: of tackling them in the fourth quarter, There's no question

1547
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: that that's a thing. It's true. Those guys come up

1548
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: and they start shining away from the contact, and it

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01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: does pay David. That's why you hear about running backs

1550
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: who gets stronger as the game goes on, is because

1551
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: those guys on defense are just sick to death of

1552
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: getting hit and being and hitting the guy, and so

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01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: there is some merit to that. But I think if

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01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: the game is going offensively well enough for Chris Ivory

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01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: to be banging guys in the secondary, you're not going

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: to be needing to throw the football to take advantage

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01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: of it. Am I right? I mean that's the way

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01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: you see it, right, Yeah, And with the way Ivory

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01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: ran late in the game last week, you're almost would

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01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: be encouraged to run him in that fashion. Earlier, I

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01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: asked Leshaun McCoy after Sunday's game, how advantageous is it

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01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: for you with the style of runner you are to

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01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: have someone who is the polar opposite in Chris Ivory.

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01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: How much does that help set up runs for you

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01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: knowing that opposing defense is finding it so hard to

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01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: adjust from one of you to the other. You know,

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01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 1: you bring in Leshaun McCoy and he's shaking you out

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01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: of your shoes, and then all of a sudden, here

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01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 1: comes Ivory and he's just going to run you over.

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01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: And then you go back to McCoy and it's like

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01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: you're jitterbugging around again, trying to get your feet under

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01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 1: you to make a tackle. And Leshan said, no, it

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01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: is a help. It is a help because we are

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01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: so different that when we go from one to the other,

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01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: from one play to the next, you know they're grasping

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01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: an air because they're trying to brace themselves. Oh it's

1577
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: twenty five, it's not thirty three. There's an adjustment there

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01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: that I think sometimes it is difficult for defensive players

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01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: to make from one play to the next, or even

1580
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: one series to the next. We're gonna push back the

1581
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick SoundBite that we got from his press conference yesterday.

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01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 1: I know a lot of the next scene it. We'll

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01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: do it in the next segment. But if you want to,

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01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 1: Jim chime in on our Twitter poll, you can what

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01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: matchup are you most looking forward to this Sunday as

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01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills take on the Texans Turdavious White versus

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01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Fifty nine percent of you say that's it

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01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: Houston defensive ends against the Buffalo Bills offensive line. Only

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Speaker 1: eleven percent think that's worth watching. Twenty two percent of

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01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: you think it's Josh Allen against the Houston secondary, and

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01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: eight percent of looking forward to seeing Lashawn McCoy against

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Speaker 1: the eighth ranked run defense of the Texans. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break Steve task along with Chris Brown on

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01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. We're gonna come back do some more stuff.

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01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson's coming in at two and just about fifteen minutes.

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01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna do NFL true false, and some other stuff

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01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: from around the league when we get back. This is

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio,

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01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: presented by kalidah Health. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasked along with Chris Brown. Murph is out today.

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01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 1: We've got a couple of things going on with our

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01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 1: Twitter poll, of course, which matchup are you most looking

1603
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: forward to this Sunday as the Buffalo Bills take on

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01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: the Texans. If you want to get in on it,

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01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: you can eight oh three five fifty or one eight

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01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. You can tweet at

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01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: us at one Bills Live, Brownie. I don't know if

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01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: you've been watched one of the things I get to

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01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: do as a CBS guys or go around the country

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01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: and all the NFL's teams and sit down with these

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01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: head coaches and players and talk in production meetings. So

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01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: I have a chance once in a while to sit

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01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: down with guys, and Bill Belichick's one him. I'm sat

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01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: down the room with him and asked him about his team,

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01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: how the game's gonna go, and all that you could eACT,

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01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: you know, and we get access and he's he's obviously

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01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: a really intelligent guy, and he's a much different guy

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01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: than some people perceive. And I know Bill's fans think

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01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: he's the Antichrist, but yeah, looking for the Horns right exactly.

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01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: They think he's got a prehensible tale and carries a

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01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: pitch forward. But I will say this, something came up

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01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,799
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and he does these just like Sean McDermott

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01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: and Buffalo, just like Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. You know,

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01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: Belichick has to come up in front of the local

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01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: media a couple of times a week and say it,

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01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: and some some of his some of his press conferences

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01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: are epic in there in his disdain for actually having

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01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: to do it. And something happened yesterday. They asked him

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01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 1: a couple of questions yesterday. We're gonna play it for

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01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: you here, which is kind of unprecedented here. But it's

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01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: to me, I belly laughed last night when a buddy

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01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: of mine sent it to me. Yeah, and I said, okay,

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01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: I gotta share it with you. So this is Bill

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01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: Belichick yesterday being asked they play the Kansas City Chiefs.

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01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,759
Speaker 1: Chiefs are five and oh headed in to New England,

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01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 1: or that I don't know where the game is in

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01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: New England or if it's in Kansas City, and I'm

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01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, I can't remember. Irrelevant

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01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: to the to the matter we're talking about now, though.

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01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: This is Bell Belichick in his midweek press conference with

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01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: the local media in New England talking about the Kansas

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01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Coach, you feel like you're playing for the

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01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: top seed, and with this game that the States are

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01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: the plant Kansas City, does it seem like a higher

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01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: stakes game plan Kansas City outside of the populas in

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01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: the bass populat that's successful. That's a pretty good quarterback. Now, Hill,

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01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 1: remind you at all of cap? Yeah? No, there's two?

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01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: Is what player? Was he asking Eric Metcalf? No, I

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01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: know Eric Metcalf. Who was he asking? If he look

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01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 1: reminds him of it? Tyree Hill? Oh okay. So they

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01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: asked does this game have more meaning? Like the top

1652
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: seed in the conference? And Bill says, now it feels

1653
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: Does it feel like it's a bigger game? He says,

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01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: now it feels like we're playing the Chiefs. And he goes, well,

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01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: he said, have you ever seen a quarter like the

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01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: young quarterback running around like this having this much success?

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01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a quarterback? And Bill looked at

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01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: him and had We've seen some pretty good quarterbacks now, yeah,

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01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: you know. So he's like, come on, pump the brakes.

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01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: And then of course they asked him about Eric Metcalf.

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01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 1: Is this guy remind you Mark that? Yeah? No. The

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01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: fascinating thing to me is how you even transcribe, like,

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01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 1: as a media member, how do you even transcribe an

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01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: interview like that? Because his lips barely move he mumbles

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01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 1: these answers out. And you know, speaking from the media perspective,

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01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: because I hear this a lot from the New England reporters.

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01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just miserable, oh going to his press

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01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 1: conferences because he gives them appsolutely nothing, which is what

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01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 1: he wants to do. He doesn't want to give anybody anything.

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01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to give anybody bulletin board material, none

1671
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: of that stuff. So you ask him about the other team,

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01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: even then he'll give you the whole roster. He never

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01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 1: even breaks out one of them. He'll give you something there,

1674
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: but something on one of their players is really good.

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01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: Something on his own team is is like getting water

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01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,679
Speaker 1: from a guys like that too, that that brought about

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01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,600
Speaker 1: this effect where and even I'm a victim, I'm a

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01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 1: huge victim of it when I when I talk to

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01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 1: guys like this or I'm interview even on this show,

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01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: and I mean you know that, I try to remember

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01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: it has trained media guys to not to ask questions,

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01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: is to say, talk about this, you know, and just

1683
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: to try and get him to open up and talk

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01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 1: about it. And it's become a huge problem because it's

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Speaker 1: so easy to dodge questions that you want to. You

1686
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: don't want to ask him questions. You try to get

1687
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,679
Speaker 1: him to talk. You try to ask open answered questions.

1688
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: Open ended questions Joe, you know, give you an opportunity

1689
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: to provide a one word answer. And even that can

1690
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: be difficult sometimes because the interview subject will sometimes just say, well,

1691
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: just answer with whatever answer they want, which may not

1692
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: even be related in any way, shape or form to

1693
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 1: the topic you're asking about. They're just going to answer

1694
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: it the way they want and not really address the

1695
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: question in any way, shape or form. So it's I

1696
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: get why the by the New England based media gets

1697
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 1: frustrated with him when they're trying to do stories on

1698
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: players on that roster or the way a side of

1699
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,879
Speaker 1: the ball might be performing. You don't go to Belichick

1700
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: for the answers because you're not going to get what

1701
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: you're looking for there. You got to go to players,

1702
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 1: and then those players are trained to be guarded in

1703
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: what they say, and so covering that team is a

1704
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 1: heavy lift, you know for those guys. I mean, I

1705
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: don't envy the fact that they're covering. I mean I

1706
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: do envy the fact that they're covering a team that's

1707
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 1: perennially successful, but it's not it's not easy to get,

1708
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, the meat and potatoes type quotes that you

1709
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 1: need to write stories. So from that standpoint, it can

1710
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: get difficult. Yeah, one of the other things too, And

1711
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, we just have to answer questions. Coaches have

1712
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 1: to answer questions and players always have to answer questions,

1713
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: particularly guys who are married. Joe Flacco was it quoted

1714
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: this week? And if you don't know that, let me

1715
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: give you a bull background. So the Ravens draft Lamar Jackson,

1716
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 1: big athletic quarterback drew in the end of the first round, noted,

1717
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:20,719
Speaker 1: but he's still in the first round. So they feel

1718
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: like they have to justify that draft pick, so they

1719
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: give him a package Buffalo Bill's fans sought in Week

1720
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: one where they put Lamar Jackson on the field at

1721
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 1: quarterback and split Joe Flacco out wide. Well, they've continued

1722
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: to do it throughout the first five weeks of the season,

1723
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 1: and if you've ever watched Joe Flacco play wide receiver,

1724
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:41,759
Speaker 1: it is it's him doing his imitation of the Statue

1725
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 1: of Liberty. I mean, he's standing there and he doesn't move,

1726
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: and he said that he was quoted, he said, my

1727
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 1: wife gave me crap the one day. He told me

1728
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: I need to look more interested out there, but I'm

1729
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 1: just trying to stay out of it. I'm not comfortable

1730
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: out there and I don't need to get too creative.

1731
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: You can see me. I'm out there just standing. I

1732
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 1: just try to stay out of the way of everything.

1733
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: That's what I'm told to do, and that's what I'm doing.

1734
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: So his wife is saying, hey, man, pick it up

1735
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 1: a little bit, and he's like, I'm supposed to do.

1736
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 1: If I'm Joe, I'm saying, you remember what the shape

1737
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 1: my back was in last year. I'm not gonna engage

1738
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: in any kind of contact. I don't need to and

1739
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,959
Speaker 1: I know better. We're gonna take a break. Dereka Anderson,

1740
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 1: the new Buffalo Bills quarterbacks, is gonna come in here

1741
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: where he's gonna be on set with us in studio

1742
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 1: right after the break, So stay with us. This is

1743
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: presented by Kalidah Health One Bills Live from One Bill's

1744
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello Bills Radio Network Sports Update.

1745
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: The Bills continue preparing to face the Texans in Houston

1746
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: this Sunday. The Texans have placed cornerback Cavon Webster on

1747
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: ir for a quad injury suffered in last week's win

1748
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: over the Cowboys. The Eagles will be facing the Giants tonight,

1749
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 1: but not without a few injuries. Giants tight end Evan

1750
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 1: Ingram has been ruled out for tonight's game with a

1751
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: knee injury, and Eagle's offensive line tackle Lane Johnson is

1752
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 1: listed as questionable with an ankle injury. The NFL has

1753
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: fined Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin twenty five thousand dollars

1754
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 1: for harsh words against the officials in Pittsburgh's forty one

1755
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: to seventeen win over Atlanta. Tomlin voiced his frustration after

1756
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 1: the game, where fourteen penalty flags were thrown and accepted.

1757
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,799
Speaker 1: Vikings cornerback Trey Waynes is out of the concussion protocol

1758
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: and said he expects to play when Minnesota hosts the Cardinals.

1759
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 1: Wayne sustained a concussion before halftime in the Week four

1760
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 1: loss to the Rams, where he allowed a touchdown to

1761
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Despite having a ten day break between games,

1762
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: the Colts may be without some key players against the

1763
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 1: Jets Sunday. Receiver t Y Hilton is out with a

1764
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: hamstring injury, tied end Jack Doyle with a hip injury.

1765
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,719
Speaker 1: Both are considered week to week, and safety Clayton Gathers

1766
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: suffered a neck injury and concussion against New England last week.

1767
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 1: In its concussion and his end concussion protocol. Falcon's defensive tackles.

1768
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Grady Jarret's fine for a hit on Eagles quarterback Nick

1769
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Foles during this season opener has been rescinded by the

1770
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 1: NFL following an appeal. Jarrett was penalized for roughing Folds,

1771
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: but insisted it was a legal hat, a legal hit

1772
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 1: since the beginning, and the Sabers host the Avalanche tonight.

1773
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: Puck drop is at seven pm. You can catch pregame

1774
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 1: coverage on Sabers Game Night with Brian Duff and Martin

1775
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:22,600
Speaker 1: Biron at six thirty pm on MSG. And that is

1776
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 1: your update. We are pleased now and one Bill is

1777
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 1: live to be joined by a fourteen year veteran of

1778
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: the National Football League and a newly acquired quarterback by

1779
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, Derek Anderson. Derek, thanks for coming on,

1780
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Thanks for having me. It's

1781
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: welcome to Buffalo. I know the first thing you gotta say.

1782
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I know this is you know, is far

1783
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: from your rosy spot in Arizona where you spend your

1784
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: time and your place in Oregon. But you're gonna like

1785
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: it here, trust me. Oh yeah, I have a little

1786
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: bit of familiarity of this area of being in Cleveland,

1787
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 1: and I have some family friends that live over here.

1788
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: So I've come over and spent some time over the

1789
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: years looking forward to us some knee deep snow at

1790
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: some point there you go. Yeah, if listen, the snow

1791
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 1: is not the worst part of it. Believe me. It's

1792
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: the mud season. They get you talk a little bit

1793
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 1: about your first couple of days. You know, you jump

1794
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: right into the practice field. Obviously you got some catching

1795
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 1: up to do. But I've heard said, guys, with your

1796
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: tenure in the NFL, it's it's mostly about the words,

1797
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: not about the concepts. Yeah, I've spent a lot of

1798
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 1: time the last three since I got here really just

1799
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 1: trying to grasp the not necessarily the concepts, just the

1800
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 1: verbiage so when we're in meetings I can communicate and

1801
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's been I'm pretty tired. I'm looking forward

1802
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 1: to Friday afternoon for a little nap. Yeah. Do you

1803
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: do you remember much from your last time around the

1804
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 1: block with Brian Dable? I mean, I know you two

1805
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: guys were in Cleveland for a year together in oh nine,

1806
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: And is he any different guy than you remember from

1807
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 1: back then? He's mellowed out a little bit, a little

1808
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: always mellowed okay, hood out a little bit. Uh No.

1809
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,719
Speaker 1: He and I've you know, stay in touch over the years,

1810
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: and you know, always kind of watching what he's doing,

1811
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 1: and you know, you know when he's you know, a

1812
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,719
Speaker 1: coordinator and hey, nice job today. You know, just watching

1813
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: kind of what he's doing over the years, but some

1814
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 1: familiarity of stuff that we did and trying to recall it,

1815
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: and he's saying things to me like, oh yeah, I

1816
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: remember that. Like, so it's been good if you so,

1817
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 1: what's what would you say you were? What was the

1818
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:22,640
Speaker 1: first thing he said when you were walking in the

1819
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 1: door to you this time around, you know, knowing it's

1820
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: the second go round between you two. Good to have

1821
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: you here. And I was like, I super happy about it.

1822
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 1: I think my wife was ready for me to get

1823
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 1: out of the house a little bit, being at home

1824
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 1: for as long as I was. It was a great

1825
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 1: time and obviously having all that time with my kids

1826
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 1: was was awesome. We were on family vacation actually last

1827
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,720
Speaker 1: week and when they called and then I was like,

1828
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can leave, Like today I might

1829
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: have some problems. We're talking with Derek Anderson, newly acquired quarterback,

1830
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:55,560
Speaker 1: a fourteen year vetter and he spent time with the Ravens,

1831
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 1: the Browns, the Cardinals, and the Panthers for the last

1832
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 1: a long time with the Pandems and talk to it.

1833
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 1: You know, you brought you brought you in as a

1834
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 1: mentor for Josh Allen. You knew you kind of know

1835
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: your role with that. You did it with Cam Newton,

1836
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: UH in Carolina. You've got a lot of uh, you

1837
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: know a lot of knowledge under the hood and how

1838
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: what's your philosophy about being that fulfilling that kind of

1839
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: role for this team. I just want to do whatever

1840
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 1: I can to help us win, uh, Helping receivers, you

1841
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: know about things, making sure that we're all on the

1842
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 1: same page. UM, sat through a lot of meetings and

1843
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: communications and you know, dealing with all that stuff and

1844
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 1: then obviously anything that Josh needs and UH and Nate needs,

1845
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 1: like you know, just knowing football. You know, I've seen

1846
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. You know, I've seen a lot

1847
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: of good I've seen a lot of bad. Um. You know,

1848
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: handling the ups and downs, you know, especially for a

1849
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, can be difficult at the times because you know,

1850
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 1: you come from having a lot of success being a

1851
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 1: first round guy. Um to you know, it's not always perfect.

1852
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: You know, this league is hard. It's hard to win

1853
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: football games in this league. And uh yeah, and I

1854
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 1: told those guys like, you know, whatever we gotta do,

1855
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 1: I'll do it, like I'm I'm with you. So what

1856
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:10,719
Speaker 1: comes across in the early interactions you've had with Josh,

1857
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: because publicly he comes across as a guy that is

1858
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: craving the knowledge. You know he wants. Sometimes you almost

1859
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 1: feel like he wants it all tomorrow or yesterday. Right,

1860
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 1: How are what were your initial impressions of him, maybe

1861
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: in sitting down and some of those I don't know

1862
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: how many times you guys have had a chance this

1863
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 1: week because you're handling your own stuff to kind of

1864
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: get up to speed. But what have your initial interactions

1865
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 1: with him? Been? Like? How does he come off to you?

1866
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 1: A very smart kid? Uh? Can retain a lot of stuff,

1867
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 1: but you know, and there's obviously a balance too, right,

1868
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 1: like not giving him too much stuff. But yeah, I

1869
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 1: mean he's very smart and you know, say things and

1870
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: he you know, he understands it, and it's it's uh,

1871
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 1: it's good. It's you know, you can tell that he's

1872
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 1: just trying to grab everything. You said, to grab everything

1873
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 1: at once, which all we all know that it doesn't

1874
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 1: happen like that. You know, you're gonna have, like I said,

1875
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 1: you're ups and downs. You're sometimes you're gonna forget something

1876
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate, but that's kind of part of the

1877
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 1: learning process. You look at the guys that are successful

1878
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 1: long term in this league, is you know, staying in

1879
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 1: the same system. You know, understanding you're throwing that ball

1880
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 1: fifty times in a game. You know, understanding the guys

1881
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 1: you're playing with, you know how they run their routes,

1882
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 1: you know when they stick. You know, it's it's a

1883
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 1: process and then we're working through it. We're with Derek Anderson,

1884
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 1: new quarterback of the Buffalo Bills, and for those of

1885
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: you who don't know him, you're from Scapoos, Oregon. Did

1886
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 1: I say that right? Sco Scapoos Oregon. You still spend

1887
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 1: time up in Oregon, have a place up there as

1888
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 1: well as in Arizona. You're kind of hanging out ready

1889
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 1: for the offseason. You knew there were some teams interested

1890
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: in you. What was your philosophy about this year. I

1891
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: was just kind of wanted it to be the right,

1892
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 1: right time, right situation. Um. Obviously my familiarity with with

1893
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 1: being you know, him being in Carolina before and coach mcdermottum,

1894
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of respect for a lot of

1895
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 1: coaches in this building. And you know, I got here

1896
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize how many guys that I'd been

1897
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 1: with or you know, over the course of the years,

1898
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of good football coaches here, and uh,

1899
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 1: that was exciting for me. You know, I was being

1900
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 1: somewhere where people know, you understand how you you know,

1901
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 1: kind of operate. Is there's a comfort in that, um,

1902
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it's been a while since I've been

1903
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:22,560
Speaker 1: with Dave's, but there's a comfort there, and you know,

1904
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: the communication is good. They you know, giving your phone

1905
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: a ring back in the spring just to kind of

1906
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 1: see where you were at at the time. Maybe, Yeah,

1907
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 1: and you and you probably just didn't know yet, right,

1908
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm proud I was. Yeah, it's a little

1909
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: bit complicated. There were some other things that happened, and

1910
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 1: then then some other things kind of fell through, and

1911
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, I was there was a point when I

1912
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: was like, oh, maybe it's time, you know, maybe it's

1913
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 1: time to shut it down. But I'm very fortunate for

1914
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 1: this opportunity and very excited about it. You also have

1915
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 1: a few a couple of really memorable performances against the

1916
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: Bills where you did get to win. What do you remember.

1917
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you've been asked about him since you've been here,

1918
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 1: telling you just recap some of the highlights. So that

1919
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 1: I was talking about that nothing game yet that and

1920
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: the six three win one was a foot of snow

1921
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 1: on the ground in Cleveland, right, And then that was

1922
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: the eight nothing and then the one I was there

1923
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 1: for that one where you had the stellar two for

1924
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 1: seventeen performance and the NFL record, right, you were two

1925
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 1: for seventeen to one the game. Believe it? Uh yeah,

1926
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 1: we're actually I told those guys to day I go,

1927
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 1: believe it or not, I won a football game in

1928
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 1: that stadium over there with two completions uh, look at

1929
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 1: start to finish, right, I mean you didn't. It's not

1930
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 1: like that was all. That was a full meal deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1931
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: it was what were your actions out there? Well, I

1932
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 1: was like a super windy out there today, and I

1933
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: was like, no, that's not windy. I was like that day.

1934
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: Let me tell you a story. That day was incredible.

1935
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 1: Balls were moving and they were moving all over the

1936
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 1: place out there today. But I know I would remember

1937
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: I threw a slant to Muhammad Massaqua and I peered

1938
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 1: it and I was like, all of a sudden, it's

1939
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 1: like half way there. And just when I'm like whoa,

1940
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 1: I was like, it looked like I just threw a duck.

1941
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 1: And he comes over and he starts laughing. He was

1942
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 1: almost laughable at the time. The Snow Game one of

1943
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 1: the funnest games I've ever played in. Obviously, the conditions

1944
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 1: were horrible. There was nothing you could really do. You know,

1945
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 1: if going one way you could throw it, going the

1946
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 1: other way you couldn't um And it was a blast,

1947
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 1: you know. I happened to have a bunch of my

1948
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: buddies at that game. They were wearing jeans and air

1949
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 1: Max's to the game and because we went out for

1950
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 1: warm up it was just windy, came out free game

1951
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 1: and it was snowing like crazy. But both of them

1952
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 1: very interesting and think games I'll never forget for sure,

1953
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 1: no doubt. What about trying to strike the balance between

1954
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: being helpful to a young quarterback and not being the

1955
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 1: guy where the young guy says, oh boy, here's another story.

1956
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like you got it. There's

1957
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,600
Speaker 1: a balance you gotta strike where you don't want to

1958
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 1: be the back end my day guy, you know what

1959
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Like there's there's value and a lot of

1960
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,639
Speaker 1: value and what you have to offer. Don't think I'm

1961
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 1: barking up the wrong tree here, But at the same time,

1962
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 1: you want to be giving a message that still feels fresh,

1963
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: you know in week fourteen and fifteen, when maybe Josh

1964
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 1: feels he knows a little bit more than he does

1965
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 1: now right. Um, for me, it's just kind of the

1966
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 1: things that Cameron I did together. It was just keeping

1967
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 1: it within the week. I mean, okay, I'm a new opponent. Yeah,

1968
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 1: like keep it within the you know, we go in

1969
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 1: on Monday, we watch it. You know what happened on

1970
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 1: Sunday before you know, clear the plate start over, you know,

1971
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 1: get back in it, and I'm not. You know, there's

1972
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 1: occasionally there's times like, hey, you know I played against

1973
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 1: this coordinator. You know, these are some things that I

1974
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: know that he does. Some staples that you know, I

1975
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: know that he does. Um, he has this. He might

1976
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 1: not play us like that, but and you know it's

1977
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: in there, and I'm not gonna say, you know, try

1978
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: and tell him exactly what's gonna happen, because sometimes you

1979
01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: do getting games and they're not playing it exactly how

1980
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 1: you maybe thought, and you have to make some adjustments.

1981
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: But for me, it's just a week to week and

1982
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 1: like I said, anything that I can find on tape

1983
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 1: or you know, we're sitting in the room looking at

1984
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 1: each other. That's where you get the good back and forth,

1985
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 1: I think, and for me, that's where I learned a

1986
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: lot when I was young. It is just sitting in

1987
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 1: there with other guys, good coaches, you know, bouncing things

1988
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: off each other. You know. Two thousand and seven, he

1989
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl plane for the Browns, did

1990
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: twenty nine tds and through for almost just shy at

1991
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 1: thirty eight hundred yards. What do you remember about that game?

1992
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 1: About that season? And the success you had, and why

1993
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 1: couldn't why couldn't that be sustained in Cleveland? And why

1994
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 1: does it seem like that you know he had that one.

1995
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, why can't that like continue? You know a

1996
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 1: lot of things that are out of our control. Um,

1997
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, injuries. We signed the Charles Bentley that next

1998
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: year and he's going to be our stud center for US.

1999
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,679
Speaker 1: First play a training camp, he blows his patelo tending.

2000
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just unfortunate things. It was difficult that

2001
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:00,719
Speaker 1: are two thousand and seven year. It was great. Romeo

2002
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,759
Speaker 1: Carnell was awesome. Uh you know, we had good coaches,

2003
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 1: good players, and you know a lot of like young

2004
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 1: guys that kind of hadn't been through it. And then

2005
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, we all kind of just came together.

2006
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 1: We started winning a few games. Obviously, the first game

2007
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 1: that I played against Cincinnati, we just went on fire

2008
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 1: and it was crazy. But you know we had some

2009
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 1: ups and downs. We went seven and one at home.

2010
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 1: But the group collectively, you know, came together. You know,

2011
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:28,759
Speaker 1: we we bonded, We did things off the field together,

2012
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 1: and a lot of those guys I still talked to.

2013
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas still talk to him. You know, Hank Freddy

2014
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 1: was our center. Um, you know that that was my

2015
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 1: biggest members and Romeo is the DC this week. So

2016
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, if there's ever a week to get you

2017
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 1: in here, this was probably pretty good timing for Josh

2018
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 1: because I mean, not only do you have you seen

2019
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: him and gone against him as a DC, but you've

2020
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 1: been under him, uh, you know, with him as a coach.

2021
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 1: So what do you feel Without getting into details here,

2022
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 1: but you've I'm guessing you feel that there are some

2023
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 1: things that you can offer Josh, even this week in

2024
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 1: terms of how Romeo likes to call defense, right, Yeah,

2025
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 1: to a certain extent, Yeah, yeah, a little bit, you know.

2026
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 1: And obviously you can look back to when he called

2027
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 1: before and there's he's kind of stayed the same guy

2028
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 1: over the course of his career and that's why he's

2029
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 1: going there every day and try to, you know, find

2030
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 1: the pieces and what's he doing now Obviously like Vrabel

2031
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 1: was there before him, was calling the defense. So but yeah,

2032
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,680
Speaker 1: there's bits and pieces, and I you know, i'd say

2033
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 1: some things that you know, I remember him speaking on

2034
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 1: in front of the team that are his you know,

2035
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 1: core philosophies, which is like Sean. Like being around Sean,

2036
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 1: listened to him coach our defense. You know, the time

2037
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 1: he was with us, I gained a lot of knowledge

2038
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 1: from him. And you know, he and I, obviously I

2039
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 1: was running the scout team. He and I'd bounce things

2040
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 1: off each other and just little things like that. Did

2041
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 1: you hear he was he was joking yesterday. I don't

2042
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 1: know if you heard his comment. He was saying, Yeah,

2043
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 1: I used to get mad at him because I'd set

2044
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 1: up these plays for scout team to run and you'd

2045
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 1: go through the entire progression. He wanted you to throw

2046
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 1: it to a guy that he wanted to get work

2047
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 1: on for a certain play that he felt was coming

2048
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: in the game. And were you just doing that on

2049
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 1: purpose to mess with him? No, Like I you know,

2050
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 1: when I was doing the scout team for him, like

2051
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 1: I took pride in the fact that I was going

2052
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 1: to get our defense ready to win a football game

2053
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 1: and a real look. Yeah, and you know, and I

2054
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 1: would always tell him that I'm like, coach, I'm like,

2055
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 1: there's two guys on him. I'm not throwing it to

2056
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 1: that guy. It's not making me any better, it's not

2057
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 1: making them any better. And he'd like, I know, but

2058
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 1: he needs to see the route. I mean it's like,

2059
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, just things like that. And you know we've

2060
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 1: had we'd go back and forth during training camp and

2061
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 1: throughout the season, and but he did. He definitely made

2062
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 1: me better just understanding his concepts and how he coached. Again,

2063
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 1: we're with Eric Anderson, quarterback of the Buffalo Bills, just

2064
01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 1: signed this week to ostensibly mentor Josh Allen, and I

2065
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 1: was going to ask you about what your value could

2066
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:48,680
Speaker 1: be on a game day as a guy who has

2067
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: been there and for me as a as a former

2068
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 1: player and a guy who kind of understands how you

2069
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:58,480
Speaker 1: feel during a game. It's more about small, simple snippets

2070
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 1: about what you can see and what you do own.

2071
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: And it's not so much about in game adjustments or

2072
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 1: anything like that. But you can help because when you

2073
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 1: say it sounds different than it does with a coach,

2074
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 1: And describe your role on game day and how you

2075
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 1: think you might be able to help a young quarterback. Yeah,

2076
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 1: so you know, I've kind of we did it in

2077
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 1: the past, or you know, coming the sideline, look at

2078
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: the pictures. You know, obviously during the you know when

2079
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,640
Speaker 1: when he's on the field, I'm going to be, you know,

2080
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 1: studying the defense, looking, hearing, listening. I guess that's supposed

2081
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: the same thing, but you know, just trying to grab

2082
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 1: little pieces and if there's anything that I can see

2083
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 1: that they're doing or you know, I'll watch, I have

2084
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,559
Speaker 1: some little watch what they're doing on their sidelines sometimes

2085
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 1: to try and you know, steal some things over the

2086
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: course of the game. But you know, just coming over there,

2087
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, being a calming presence, you know, you know, hey,

2088
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,799
Speaker 1: would you see your hearing from him what he's seeing,

2089
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: and just kind of having that good back and forth

2090
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 1: I think is healthy. And it also helps you when

2091
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 1: you come off and to be able to just kind

2092
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 1: of like take a deep breath. Okay, well what just happened. Okay,

2093
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 1: let's go back out, let's do it right. And then

2094
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 1: because Dave's is upstairs, yeah, I mean he's up in

2095
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 1: the booth anyway, so I got to imagine and coach

2096
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,679
Speaker 1: Cully's down on the sideline or is he I think

2097
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, you'll find sure. I'm sure you forget that.

2098
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:15,800
Speaker 1: We should know you'll find it. Yeah, but you know,

2099
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 1: I gotta believe that, you know, just having you on

2100
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: the sideline just to talk to one on one where

2101
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to you know, after he gets off

2102
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Speaker 1: the phone, now he can kind of shoot the breeze

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01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 1: with you about a couple of things as the pictures

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01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 1: are coming down to you guys and say all right,

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01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: this is what they're doing. Maybe let's look for this

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01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 1: on the next series. I mean, it's that kind of talk, right, yeah,

2107
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:34,719
Speaker 1: and it's me, I said, it's just for me. It's

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01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 1: it's always good to have an extra set of eyes

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Speaker 1: a guy, you know, just be able to bounce things off,

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01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 1: you know. And as keeping us all together too, I

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01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 1: think is a big thing. Like I mean, as you know,

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines can be hectic at times, you know,

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01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: guys get frustrated. But just making sure the communication is

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01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 1: good with everybody, things that we talk about during the week,

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01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: you know, if there isn't adjustment to make sure that

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01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 1: everybody's getting it, and just little things like that. I

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01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 1: know you said yesterday the locker room in the meeting

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01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 1: was talking to you that when you would talk to

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01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 1: Cam about something and then you'd see him implement it

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01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 1: or put it to Houston a game that was like,

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01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 1: that's your win. Right in a week like that. Can

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01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 1: you recall a specific instance or maybe one of those

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01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 1: kinds of moments with Cam that you were like most

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01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:19,559
Speaker 1: proud of, maybe against a really good defense or something,

2125
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 1: or Yeah, I mean there's multiple times, you know, you

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01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 1: play teams that are you know, heavy pressure teams and

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01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're going into the week, you know,

2128
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 1: looking at their blitz package and you have some protection

2129
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: adjustments you get to the line of scrimmage, you know,

2130
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 1: Like I think it was a couple of years ago

2131
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 1: we were playing Minnesota or three years ago, and they

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01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 1: got us on a blitz. So then the next time

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01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 1: we played them, we had a little something for that

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01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 1: blitz and then he recognized it changed the protection. It

2135
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 1: came out exactly perfect. We hit it for like a

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01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: thirty yard completion down the field, and just yeah, like

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01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 1: little things like that, like that's cool to me, Like

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01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 1: when you can take it from the meetings to the

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01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 1: field and see it you know that quick. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah,

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01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: you better be careful that though, Derek, you will end

2141
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: up being a coach and go to the dark solid.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for joining us, Derek. We appreciate Welcome to

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01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo and we wish you all the best and of course,

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01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 1: well hopefully you never see the field and for a

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01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 1: bunch of wins right love it exactly perfect. Thank you

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01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: guys for having me. You're listening to One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalidah Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live. It is

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01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 1: time now for NFL True False, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Yancey's fancy New York's artist Jeeves nailed it and here

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Speaker 1: we go NFL True False. Brownie, you're ready to go

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Speaker 1: for this and you're go on record now. This is

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01:51:56,680 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 1: because this false, this true false thing is is incredibly

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01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 1: important and glad we're doing it. Um, Steelers need to

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01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 1: keep feeding James Connor even when Levon Bell returns to

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01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 1: the lineup. True or false. Well, I'm gonna say this,

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01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,599
Speaker 1: and I'm going to speak from a fantasy perspective. I

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Speaker 1: had Levan Bell on my team, and I was a

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01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 1: wise enough person to also get James Connor. James Connor

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Speaker 1: ain't no slouch, jeez tearing it up for me. Yea,

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01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: he is saving my bacon in fantasy football, and he's

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01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 1: been super productive. So I'm of the opinion that I

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01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 1: think you've got it. I don't think he completely avoid him. Um,

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01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 1: and I think the first game Bell comes back, you

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01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 1: know he's going to be rusty, so I would I

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01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 1: would ease him in and then you know, he still

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01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 1: used Connor a healthy amount. And I would even use

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Speaker 1: Connor on goal line, you know what I mean? All right, well,

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Speaker 1: all right, so you can say I say true, I

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Speaker 1: say true, Yeah, all right, true or false? Number two

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Speaker 1: t J. Watt will exceed his brother JJ Watt in

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Speaker 1: twenty and eighteen. I don't know about that. Oh boy.

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01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: So we got my buddy. So we're on the so

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Speaker 1: we're doing a live professional radio show on TV and

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01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 1: that Bruce Smith parachutes in. Hey man, how's it going good?

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01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 1: See um? Bruce Smith coming. You spoke to the team. Wait,

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01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 1: go over there, there's your mica over there. She's gonna

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01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 1: put it up. We'll sit over here. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: you a chit a chair and set my guy up.

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01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:30,720
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. You spoke to the team today. What

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01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 1: what'd you tell him? We because we had a little

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01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 1: footage of you out there. Yeah, well, all right, here

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01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 1: we are. Well, Um, I had to come in town

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01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 1: for an appearance, uh for CDW and um uh the

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01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 1: appearance was actually right here at the stadium, right. So

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01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 1: I called Uh. I called Sean and and Uh. I

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01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:57,400
Speaker 1: told him I wanted to stop by, and he asked

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01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 1: if I would speak to team. I said absolutely, And

2189
01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:03,640
Speaker 1: I just shared with them what it means to be

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01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 1: a bill if you you know, throughout my nineteen year career,

2191
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 1: people ask always asks what's the secret? How did you

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01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 1: do it? Well? The secret is there is no secret.

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01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 1: There's no substitute for hard work, preparation, dedication, and mastering

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01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 1: your trade. And while there are no secrets, I did

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01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 1: give them tips on how to become a dominant player,

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01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 1: how to make the game slow down, How how you

2197
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 1: had have the opportunity to level the playing field. Although

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01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 1: somebody might have a little bit more talent than you do,

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01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 1: if you're prepared, if you go in to the study

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01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 1: film room and study film by yourself with that clicker,

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01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 1: with pen and pad, writing down those little tips, that

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01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 1: gives you that competitive advantage. All of a sudden, you

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01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 1: level a playing field, right, and that they're not that

2204
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 1: your talent level. Uh. When when it's all said and

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01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 1: that I've said this a long time because we were

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01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 1: on that You're on that part of that legendary group

2207
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 1: of guys. You got a bunch of Hall of Famers

2208
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 1: on our team that we played with, and and everybody

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01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: always asked, you know, like you said, what's the secret house?

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01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 1: Come of that team was so good? And I said,

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01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, because we had guys like you and Bruce

2212
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 1: and Jim and Thurman and Andre and Corneis Bennett and

2213
01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:36,000
Speaker 1: Darryl and you can You're down the list. There's a

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Speaker 1: list of long list of guys who were really talented

2215
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 1: and really good players. But we're also the hardest working guys.

2216
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things I tell people this.

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01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 1: You came in the league, you were like three fourteen,

2218
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 1: kind of kind of as you're kind of a chubby

2219
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 1: you're a chubby baby and stuff. But when I remember

2220
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 1: then you started getting double digit sacks, and Ted Catrell

2221
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 1: was there and you had good mentoring and stuff. And

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Speaker 1: saw him, I saw him step on I saw him

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Speaker 1: step on the scale. Later in his career, you were

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01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 1: like two sixty nine. Yeah, yeah, like Renzo Alexander on

2225
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 1: the Bills. Now he did the same thing. He's a

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01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:10,960
Speaker 1: big you know, three hundred plus pound guy night, he's

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01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 1: a linebacker running around linebacker. It takes a lot of

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01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 1: hard work that even those talented guys have to be

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Speaker 1: willing to do. Yeah, it takes sacrifice and um um.

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Speaker 1: So that was one of the questions that I asked

2231
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 1: the team. Have you sacrificed yet? What have you done

2232
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 1: to improve your game? So so for me, when when

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01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 1: I would study that film and not just watch film,

2234
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 1: but study that film and break down the opponent, his weaknesses,

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01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:51,320
Speaker 1: his strengths. At the same time, I would make sure

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01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 1: that that when I went into game week or game day,

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01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 1: I was at my optimum weight, which allowed me to

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01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 1: perform my best. When you when you take those factors

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01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:09,839
Speaker 1: along with obviously the proper rest and sleep and so forth,

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Speaker 1: and you're having the ability to be able to walk

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01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and take the thinking and

2242
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 1: the guessing out of the game. You play faster, and

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01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 1: you play with confidence. All of a sudden, the game

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01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 1: slows down for you. And when you walk up to

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01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and say I saw that playing

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01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 1: film study, all of a sudden, you're in the backfield

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Speaker 1: making big plays, go ahead with all due respect, though, Bruce,

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01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 1: there are some things that you could do on a field.

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01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 1: I had a bit of because I know because I

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Speaker 1: don't talking. I remember talking to Marcellus Wiley and he said,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to ask Bruce, how do you, you know,

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01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 1: get under that shoulder? And he goes and Bruce said, well,

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01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 1: you just do it this way, and he showed us

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01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 1: three times. He goes, and then I tried to do it.

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Speaker 1: He goes. After I fell down three times in a row.

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Speaker 1: I said, well, I guess that's something only Bruce can do.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this too, and you bring there are

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01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 1: some exception. You bring up a good point too. They're

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01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:07,960
Speaker 1: they're adding like an eighteen thousand square foot addition training

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01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 1: training senting about how guys, and a lot of it

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01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 1: is dedicated to recovery, sleep pods, um massage stations, all

2262
01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 1: this stuff about recovering. And it's funny you mentioned preparation.

2263
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:22,840
Speaker 1: Not only that you wanted to get to your optimum weight,

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01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 1: but you had film, you had time and during the

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01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,120
Speaker 1: week when you film studied film, you had time. In

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01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 1: the week we did ABC and all this. I don't

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01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 1: want to make a joke. I don't want to make

2268
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:36,640
Speaker 1: a joke. But even the fun that that group was

2269
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 1: known for having was scheduled. You had a time of

2270
01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 1: the week when okay, it's now, it's time to cut

2271
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 1: loose a hair and then get back to it, because

2272
01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, it was a balance everything, but you scheduled everything,

2273
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 1: and it was it was all about pointing towards three

2274
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 1: hours on a Sunday after it's there's there's not a

2275
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 1: whole lot to talk about when you're not winning. Right

2276
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 1: when you're winning, oh man, it's it's it's gravy. Yeah,

2277
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 1: everybody's happy and you know, the family's happy, the coaches

2278
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 1: are happy, you're happy, the fans are happy. You don't

2279
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 1: have to waste any energy and justifying and to use

2280
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, when you're winning, you don't have to tell everybody, hey,

2281
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 1: our process is important. You only have to do it

2282
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 1: when you lose, and when you're winning, the process is like,

2283
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 1: oh man, they're doing right. You don't have to convince anybody,

2284
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 1: even if you believe it to be true, that's right.

2285
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 1: You talked about it, you know, and you talked about

2286
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:27,520
Speaker 1: guys being able to play faster with proper preparation. One

2287
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 1: kid who's kind of coming along in that process is

2288
01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds. You know if fellow fellow hokey right, what,

2289
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of the games you've watched

2290
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 1: so far this year, but how do you see him

2291
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:42,600
Speaker 1: kind of coming along? Because it looks like each week

2292
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 1: he's playing a little bit faster, he's reading things a

2293
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 1: little bit quicker. You know, he seems like he's really

2294
01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 1: kind of coming along. And you know the talent he is, Yeah,

2295
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 1: he's a smart young man. He has a great deal

2296
01:59:53,320 --> 01:59:56,840
Speaker 1: of talent and he is only going to get better

2297
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 1: once he really once it really clicks, and maybe that's

2298
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 1: five more games, maybe it's another year, but he is

2299
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 1: continuously getting better and that's what you want, particularly out

2300
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:15,920
Speaker 1: of your first round draft pick. And this man's full

2301
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 1: of talent. Well, you know he's dead right, absolutely. Yeah.

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02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 1: We played against his father with him in the Pro

2303
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 1: Bowl too, he was there for a couple of years.

2304
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:26,600
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, as well, you see

2305
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:29,120
Speaker 1: these you know, these talented guys. You know, Josh Allen

2306
02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:32,040
Speaker 1: is this you know, and to me, he's a little

2307
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: he's young, and he's a little bit like Opie Taylor.

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Speaker 1: You know something, Andy Griffins. He's a little wide eyed, right,

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Speaker 1: It's all a little big for him, right, He's really

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02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 1: kind of And I told the people this maybe his

2311
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 1: biggest weakness is the fact and I know he's got

2312
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Speaker 1: to earn this, right. And I was talking to Derek Anderson,

2313
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,920
Speaker 1: who was in here just a few minutes ago. Sometimes

2314
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Speaker 1: a quarterback, and you know the guy we played with

2315
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:57,400
Speaker 1: who's got his jersey retired, just like you do. You

2316
02:00:57,400 --> 02:00:59,240
Speaker 1: you've got to be the adult in the room once

2317
02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 1: in a while. As a quarterback, you got to say, hey,

2318
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:03,080
Speaker 1: you can't do that anymore. You got to do it

2319
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:04,320
Speaker 1: the way I want you to do it, because I'm

2320
02:01:04,360 --> 02:01:06,600
Speaker 1: throwing the ball to you. That kind of thing. How

2321
02:01:06,640 --> 02:01:09,320
Speaker 1: important is it for a veteran player like you as

2322
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:12,400
Speaker 1: a as a veteran defensive end. And you saw offensive

2323
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:16,120
Speaker 1: guys like Jim and Thurman be, for lack of a

2324
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:17,760
Speaker 1: better way to put it, the adult in the room

2325
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Speaker 1: where you call them adults. Well, yeah, I get your point,

2326
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:25,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They've got to be like

2327
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:27,919
Speaker 1: less than a nice guy to some of their teammates

2328
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:29,600
Speaker 1: in order to get them to play the way they

2329
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 1: need to play. They got to hold How about you know,

2330
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:34,839
Speaker 1: how difficult is it and how important right, how important

2331
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:36,200
Speaker 1: is it to get to a point where you can

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02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 1: hold other players accountable for their lack of good play

2333
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:42,800
Speaker 1: or their lack of effort or whatever else they're lacking. Well,

2334
02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:47,600
Speaker 1: you can hold other players accountable when you're accountable and

2335
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:50,480
Speaker 1: you're doing the right thing, you're making the right plays,

2336
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:53,560
Speaker 1: and you're showing that leadership capability, taking ownership of your

2337
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 1: taking absolutely So from from that standpoint, it will come.

2338
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:03,520
Speaker 1: They're a maturation process that you can't cheat. Uh. There's

2339
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:06,040
Speaker 1: there's not a way to get from point A and

2340
02:02:06,280 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 1: skip a number, uh a lot of alphabets in the process.

2341
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 1: You gotta go a B, C, D, E, F out

2342
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 1: of that maturation process. And I think it's critical that

2343
02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:22,960
Speaker 1: this this is going to be a process for him,

2344
02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:26,280
Speaker 1: that he will continue to get better and better the

2345
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 1: more comfortable he gets in this system and the more

2346
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 1: he understands this system. But you can't cheat the process.

2347
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,160
Speaker 1: You're in One Bill's Live with Steve Tasker Chris Brown,

2348
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 1: and we got a surprise visit by a Hall of

2349
02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:38,840
Speaker 1: famer Bruce Smith. Thanks for coming in. So you're in

2350
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:41,480
Speaker 1: town for CDW making an appearance you're going to dinner

2351
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:43,560
Speaker 1: at what time's dinner tonight? Because I want to go.

2352
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:46,480
Speaker 1: I gotta invite. I gotta got a chess. I'm going

2353
02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:48,600
Speaker 1: on hockey. Are you going to hockey game? Well? Okay,

2354
02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:50,720
Speaker 1: the COT games at seven, so I can drop by

2355
02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:53,520
Speaker 1: if you get there early. Sure, what I was going

2356
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 1: to dinner with you because somebody else always pays and chess,

2357
02:02:57,920 --> 02:03:02,240
Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, they cought the meal and the best

2358
02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:04,680
Speaker 1: and the best food in town. Great, I'm in that case.

2359
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm bringing six buddies long as you're your side, right, Okay, um,

2360
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 1: could have you know you don't make it back to

2361
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna come back for Thurman's retire jersey retirement, right,

2362
02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:18,800
Speaker 1: So what do you think so far of how did

2363
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:21,760
Speaker 1: you get Thurman's the invitation to Thurman's jersey? What do

2364
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 1: you think because I've still got the one you sent

2365
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:27,760
Speaker 1: with the autographs seventy kind that's pretty nice. Yeah, Thurman's

2366
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 1: a little helmet thing. I was all right ted it

2367
02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:33,280
Speaker 1: was a little yeah, it's okay. Yeah, he's still living

2368
02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:39,080
Speaker 1: with that obviously. Yeah. Is that is that next time

2369
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 1: you're coming back? What? Uh? Yeah, I'll be back for

2370
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 1: the retirement of Are you gonna come back for that?

2371
02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be like a week long festival for Thurmers.

2372
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 1: It's just gonna I would assume guys will start arriving

2373
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:55,160
Speaker 1: in town Saturday, Sunday, stay till Tuesday. That's what I intend,

2374
02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:57,400
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna do. Yeah, all right, are you

2375
02:03:57,640 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 1: bring anybody with you? Is somebody else coming? He cam us? Yeah, okay,

2376
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 1: very nice, Yeah, very nice. I'll make sure I crossed

2377
02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:08,000
Speaker 1: paths with you. Yeah, So tell me what I know

2378
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:10,960
Speaker 1: you and obviously you and Thermite are close buddies, and

2379
02:04:11,320 --> 02:04:12,800
Speaker 1: I know it means a lot to you to have

2380
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 1: him get his jersey retired. I know, and I talk

2381
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 1: to us about what it meant for you, what you

2382
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:19,960
Speaker 1: know it's going to mean for Therman and maybe conversations

2383
02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:22,280
Speaker 1: you've had with thermant about his jo I don't even

2384
02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:28,760
Speaker 1: know if if words can do it justice. Um, the

2385
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:33,600
Speaker 1: fact that you know there was an empty seat in

2386
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 1: the building, um, just to kind of quantify it in

2387
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 1: terms of of you know, there's roughly a little over

2388
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:46,360
Speaker 1: three hundred players in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

2389
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:51,720
Speaker 1: out of the nearly one hundred year history up of

2390
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:59,760
Speaker 1: the NFL. Well half of that percent, which is one

2391
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:02,560
Speaker 1: per scent that's ever passed through the hallways of the

2392
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:06,240
Speaker 1: NFL make it to the Hall of Fame. Half of

2393
02:05:06,280 --> 02:05:11,360
Speaker 1: that number has their jersey retired. So it's less than

2394
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:15,640
Speaker 1: half percent. Yes, yeah, it's like point percent of all year. Yes,

2395
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 1: So it's in the lague group, so very specially because

2396
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:22,720
Speaker 1: I think it goes beyond um and I don't know

2397
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 1: if I can't speak for other franchises, and I can't,

2398
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 1: it's it goes beyond the field. And then you know

2399
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 1: your two hundred sacks, you know, and his you know,

2400
02:05:32,240 --> 02:05:34,640
Speaker 1: thousands of yards rushing and all the players of the year,

2401
02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:36,520
Speaker 1: Player of the Year and is leading the league in

2402
02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:38,680
Speaker 1: yard for all that stuff. It kind of goes beyond

2403
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:41,240
Speaker 1: that because it becomes more about the relationship that you

2404
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 1: have with the organization in the city as well. Yeah,

2405
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 1: So I think it goes beyond just the production on

2406
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:52,400
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah absolutely, And I think, um a lot

2407
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 1: of credit has to go to the Bills fans because

2408
02:05:57,200 --> 02:06:00,400
Speaker 1: that's who we performed in front of. That's who we

2409
02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:04,240
Speaker 1: wanted to bring excitement to. Uh oh to see now

2410
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 1: that right there, they just yeah for those of you, Yeah,

2411
02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 1: that's when I that's when I started breaking down. And

2412
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:13,720
Speaker 1: it took me thirty forty five seconds to say a

2413
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:17,160
Speaker 1: word out of my mouth because I didn't see that coming.

2414
02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:21,400
Speaker 1: But it was certainly special and emotional and and I

2415
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:26,600
Speaker 1: can't thank the uh the owners enough for Uh. Yeah,

2416
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:29,920
Speaker 1: that's my that's my son. And I don't know how

2417
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:33,320
Speaker 1: Alston's great. Carmen did a nice job with him. Yeah,

2418
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:36,440
Speaker 1: because I know you had nothing. Yeah, your son, Alston

2419
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:38,680
Speaker 1: is one of the all time great guys ever and

2420
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 1: mature beyond his years, right, he does. He's got an also,

2421
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. Carmen did a

2422
02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 1: nice job. Yeah, Steve has a way with words that yeah,

2423
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:57,440
Speaker 1: and sarca and yeah, like we've heard anything different from

2424
02:06:57,440 --> 02:07:00,320
Speaker 1: the entire group when they're all together, right, just two

2425
02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 1: of them. That's awesome to So tell me what what

2426
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 1: about Thurman? I mean, tell me about a little bit

2427
02:07:05,320 --> 02:07:08,560
Speaker 1: about you know, squatty and and uh, the conversation you've

2428
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 1: had with him, the serious since he since he found out,

2429
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:15,280
Speaker 1: since he found out. You know, Thurman is not one

2430
02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 1: to dwell um in accomplishments. Uh, he is. He is

2431
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 1: a selfless person, one that obviously thinks of others and

2432
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:32,200
Speaker 1: and uh and thinks of the team first unless we're

2433
02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:34,640
Speaker 1: in the locker room after we've had a few durings

2434
02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:36,320
Speaker 1: and we can go back and forth about what or

2435
02:07:36,360 --> 02:07:41,040
Speaker 1: two things. But but nevertheless, um, you know, I can't

2436
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:45,880
Speaker 1: tell you and and the fans how fortunate we were

2437
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:51,320
Speaker 1: to be blessed to have Thurman as a teammate on

2438
02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:55,320
Speaker 1: and off of the field. And obviously his wife Patty,

2439
02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:59,120
Speaker 1: who played an important role and and uh even as

2440
02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:03,520
Speaker 1: maturation us and and and making sure that he was

2441
02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:10,080
Speaker 1: mentally focused. Um um uh from a wife's standpoint, So um,

2442
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 1: he was an asset to the team, to to this

2443
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:22,040
Speaker 1: camaraderie that that we possess till till this very day. Uh,

2444
02:08:22,080 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 1: this bond that we have and and uh Thurman and

2445
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:30,520
Speaker 1: I probably talk three or four times a week just

2446
02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:33,640
Speaker 1: to get a laugh. You know. I'll call him up

2447
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:36,760
Speaker 1: and I've got something funny to tell him, and we

2448
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 1: will laugh for for for the majority of the conversation.

2449
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:43,120
Speaker 1: And that's the kind of relationship that we have and

2450
02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:48,400
Speaker 1: that it goes further and beyond playing football. This this

2451
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:51,600
Speaker 1: is family, just like you are. Yeah, it's been great

2452
02:08:51,640 --> 02:08:53,520
Speaker 1: and it's so great to have you in town. Good

2453
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:57,120
Speaker 1: luck with coming back and having getting through the weekend.

2454
02:08:57,160 --> 02:09:04,960
Speaker 1: The Thurman's Jersey retirement of life. Um, don't have to work.

2455
02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a rough week. I'm gonna be gone

2456
02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:10,720
Speaker 1: most of it, which is by design. Thanks for thanks

2457
02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:13,240
Speaker 1: for thanks for stop Bruce. What what is a treat man,

2458
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:14,760
Speaker 1: It's a treat to see it. Thank you so much.

2459
02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:17,960
Speaker 1: It's great, SENI in town. This is We're gonna take

2460
02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:20,040
Speaker 1: a break. This one Bills Live from One Bill's Drive

2461
02:09:20,360 --> 02:09:23,400
Speaker 1: presented by Kalidah Health and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

2462
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:46,000
Speaker 1: What have we learned? Presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western

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2465
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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We had Houston Texans beat writer

2466
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:58,080
Speaker 1: John McClean on has covered the Houston Texans for forty years.

2467
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:04,080
Speaker 1: We were talking about Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson and what

2468
02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:06,280
Speaker 1: he brought to the table. And John McLean had this

2469
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 1: to say about the Texans quarterback. A lot of itself

2470
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 1: inflake did, especially in the Cowboy game. He was sacked

2471
02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:17,640
Speaker 1: one time for one yard from the one yard line

2472
02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:19,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half. The offensive line

2473
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:24,400
Speaker 1: he was pressured twenty percent of the time in that game,

2474
02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:29,000
Speaker 1: according to NFL Next Generation Stats. But when they were

2475
02:10:29,080 --> 02:10:31,800
Speaker 1: inside the five yard line and he could not get

2476
02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:35,560
Speaker 1: a receiver, he ran to the corner and got obliterated

2477
02:10:36,080 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 1: by three Cowboys twice coming up short of a touchdown.

2478
02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:44,160
Speaker 1: Like my column today was all about, he has got

2479
02:10:44,240 --> 02:10:47,959
Speaker 1: to reduce the number of hits. Throw it away, slide,

2480
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:52,440
Speaker 1: don't keep trying to be a hero. That was John McClean,

2481
02:10:52,520 --> 02:10:55,280
Speaker 1: Texans beat writer for the Houston Chronicle, talking about the

2482
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:58,520
Speaker 1: second year quarterback of the Houston Texans, Deshaun Watson and

2483
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:00,200
Speaker 1: the hits that he's been taking. We all so, I

2484
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 1: had Derek Anderson on the show. We asked him what

2485
02:11:02,840 --> 02:11:05,120
Speaker 1: his philosophy was coming into this season. He was not

2486
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:06,960
Speaker 1: on a football team up until this week when he

2487
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,240
Speaker 1: signed with the Buffalo Bills. And here's what Derek Anderson

2488
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:13,480
Speaker 1: said about the continuation of his career. I was just

2489
02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:15,960
Speaker 1: kind of wanted it to be the right, right time,

2490
02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:21,240
Speaker 1: right situation. Obviously, my familiarity with with being you know,

2491
02:11:21,480 --> 02:11:25,960
Speaker 1: him being in Carolina before and coach McDermott. You know,

2492
02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:27,880
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for a lot of coaches in

2493
02:11:27,880 --> 02:11:29,760
Speaker 1: this building. And I got here and I didn't realize

2494
02:11:29,760 --> 02:11:32,640
Speaker 1: how many guys that I'd been with or you know,

2495
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 1: over the course of the years, and there's a lot

2496
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:37,560
Speaker 1: of good football coaches here, and uh that was exciting

2497
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:40,400
Speaker 1: for me. You know, I was being somewhere where people know,

2498
02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:42,880
Speaker 1: you understand how you you know, kind of operate. Is

2499
02:11:43,160 --> 02:11:47,320
Speaker 1: there's a comfort in that. You know, obviously it's been

2500
02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:49,720
Speaker 1: a while since I've been with Dave's, but there's a

2501
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:53,880
Speaker 1: comfort there and you know, the communication is good. That's

2502
02:11:53,920 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 1: what we learned, presented by Advanced A Lauren Brownie, what

2503
02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:59,200
Speaker 1: do you what were your impressions of Derek Anderson and

2504
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:02,040
Speaker 1: coming in and I think he's got the right frame

2505
02:12:02,040 --> 02:12:04,720
Speaker 1: of mind. Been there, done that. I mean, he did

2506
02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:06,640
Speaker 1: it for six years with Cam. We saw what Cam

2507
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:09,880
Speaker 1: became in the league, a league MVP. I'm not saying

2508
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:12,080
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen with Josh, but you know it's

2509
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:14,080
Speaker 1: a guy that can help him for sure. Brownie, thanks

2510
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:15,880
Speaker 1: for coming in today. I know it was a short notice.

2511
02:12:16,280 --> 02:12:19,120
Speaker 1: Murph was out sick, and uh, I did I did

2512
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:21,800
Speaker 1: radio a long time. Yeah, he may be back tomorrow.

2513
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:24,640
Speaker 1: We'll see we will be back here. One Bill's Live

2514
02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:27,520
Speaker 1: will be on tomorrow. We'll have Lorenzo Alexander Bill's line

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Speaker 1: back around for his Friday stint with us. We're also

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Speaker 1: gonna have Greg Cosel come in talk about the film

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Speaker 1: study that he's put together, and also Mark Kelso, the

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Speaker 1: radio analyst for the game on Sunday. I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: we always get to this late in the week where

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this game for the Bills in Houston. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: grinded out game, but it's gonna be Rockham sock Him.

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Speaker 1: If you like Rockham socking football like last week's game,

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get a lot of the same

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Speaker 1: thing this week, right, And I agree, I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a grinded out football game. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's be too, And that's up the Bill's alley.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the kind of game they need

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Speaker 1: to play to try to win this game. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think it'll probably happen, but I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a low scoring game, and I think the only

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Speaker 1: way it won't is if they start turning the football

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Speaker 1: over on one side or the other and hopefully it's

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Speaker 1: on the other side. All right, that's right. One last thing,

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Speaker 1: one last thing with this matchup to watch. What is

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Speaker 1: the matchup you're gonna w Is it Tredavious White on

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins? Yeah? I think that's a big one. I

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Speaker 1: want to see, um, you know, I want to see

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Speaker 1: Clowney and Dawkins too. I think that's an underrated matchup

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Speaker 1: in this game. You know you're going against your bet.

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Speaker 1: You've got your best pass protector going one of their

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Speaker 1: best pass rushers. Guy was the first pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's gonna have some appeal too, for sure. Brownie. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: George Bloss, Jeff coltenac caltoniac Oh, Sorry, Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude,

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Speaker 1: jj Arito, Jay Harris, also Kevin Cargis and them all

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Speaker 1: in James Row Well, everybody, thanks for helping out. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for everybody out there bearing with us today in nurf's

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Speaker 1: Avnson absence and sticking with me. This has been One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, presented by Kalidah Health.

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Speaker 1: It's been It is Buffalo Bill's Radio and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you tomorrow. Everybody, thanks so much for hanging in

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Speaker 1: there with us.