1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stuff. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: I've never told you a production of I Heart Radios 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: how stuff works. Today, it is time for another update. 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff has happened, uh since we did 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: our last update in November, a long time ago. So yeah, 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: a lot of things have happened. A lot of things 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: have happened in this new year. Yeah, yeah, Quickly, we're 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: going to try to make this a more regular occurrence 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: because there's a lot to keep up with. Breathe trigger 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: warning for discussion of sexual assault. And yeah, as we 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: started this year, world War three was trending and we're 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: in the middle of an impeachment a lot, a lot, yeah, 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: and we wanted to start with the e r A 14 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: that Coal Rights Amendment boom, Yes, very quick recap. In 15 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: nineteen three, the National Women's Party drafted the Equal Rights 16 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: Amendment reading and its main passage, equality of rights under 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: the Law shall not be denied our bridge by the 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: United States or by any state on account of sex. 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: Decades later, with the work of women from both parties, 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 1: it passed with majorities in nineteen seventy one. In nineteen 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: seventy two in the House and Senate, respectively. This meant 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: the two thirds that Congress needs to propose an amendment 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: under Article five, next three fourths of the states have 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: to ratify it for the amendment to become part of 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: the Constitution within seven years. Only thirty five states did so. 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: The whole thing in part influence by Phillis Schlafley's Stop 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: e r A movement stop standing for Stop taking Our Privileges. 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: In nWo, it was widely reported that the e r 29 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: A was dead, and it pretty much was till the 30 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen election and the ensuing Women's March. Woo. Yeah, 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: I just don't like to pause there, because you know, 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: it was such a big rand thing and I love it. 33 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: Nevada ratified in two thousands seventeen, in Illinois eighteen, and 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: in January twenty both of Virginia's legislators ratified the e 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: r A. Maybe thirty eight state to do so and 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: meaning that three fourth threshold. The date is particularly powerful 37 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: about one years after the ratification of the nineteenth Amendment, 38 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: which gave American women the right to vote right and 39 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: after the vote, Attorney General Mark R. Herring said, today 40 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: is an absolutely historic day for our Commonwealth. And a 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: major milestone in the fight for equality in this nation. 42 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: Women in America deserve to have a quality guaranteed in 43 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: the constitutions, and Virginians should be proud that we will 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: be the state that makes it happen. And Delegate Jennifer 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: Carroll Foy said before the vote, which side of history 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: do you want to be on? The world is watching 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: your mother's, your sisters, your daughters now. Detractors point to 48 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: two main problems. The original deadline was in two and 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: despite widespread belief that the deadline could be changed, the 50 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel recently stated, we conclude 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: that the e r A resolution has expired and has 52 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: no longer pending before the states. They gave instructions to 53 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: the National Archives and Records Administration to ignore Virginia's ratification, 54 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: and the administration has indicated that they intend to follow 55 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: those instructions. The second issue, as we discussed in our 56 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: last update on the e r A, five states have 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: taken back the ratification Kentucky, Tennessee, South Dakota, and Nebraska 58 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: and Idaho. However, legal experts argue that neither of these 59 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: should get in the way of Congress if they want 60 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: to proceed, they have the power to extend deadlines, which 61 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: they've already done for the ei A once, and there 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: are plenty of other legal precedents and to reject with 63 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: sydneys of ratification. Right, extending the deadline is the next step, 64 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: and bills to do so or in both the House 65 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: and the Senate with bipartisan sponsors. Some argue that the 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: e R is no longer necessary, particularly in the wake 67 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: of the nineteen four Civil Rights Act that barred discrimination 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, and sex. 69 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: There's still plenty of ways we could improve equality, and 70 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: at the very it's an acknowledgment of everything women have 71 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: already fought hard to get past. There are concerns around 72 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: the e R A. For one, it could open previously 73 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: passed laws and directives to renewed attack. For another, the 74 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: use of the word sex could be interpreted as biological sex. 75 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: The word gender wasn't widely used in the nineteen twenties, 76 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: and the nineteen seventy two version kept the word sex. 77 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: This could exclude gender nonconforming, gender, queer, non binary, all 78 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: of that for transgender folks, it would likely depend on 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: where they were in their transition. However, it's great to 80 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: see that places like Virginia has advanced Senate Bill six seven, 81 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: which would allow a person to receive a new birth 82 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: certificate to reflect in the change of sex without the 83 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: requirement of surgery. And the individual seeking a new birth 84 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: certificate also may list a new name if they provide 85 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: a certified copy of a court order of the name change. Now, 86 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: again this is only at the beginning process. They did 87 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: pass the Senate and now must go keep continuing on. 88 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: But that's a really good note news that they are 89 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: looking at how this can be affected in the in 90 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: the hiccups with the bill. Yeah, and it was really 91 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: cool to see the pictures of people with their sashes 92 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: and all the buttons from when they had marched for 93 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: the r A before. It was a really moving, moving 94 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: thing witness. And that is not all you have to 95 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: talk about when it comes to politics. But first we 96 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: have to take a quick break for word from our 97 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: sponsor and we're back, Thank you sponsor. All right, I'm 98 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: just waiting for what's coming up. Yeah, well, why don't 99 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: you dive into Yeah, I need to talk about it though. 100 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: It's the whole controversy and it's what divides us many times, 101 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: or divides people in politics many times. But the Warren 102 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: Bernie fiasco controvarsy all of those things. So in this 103 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: between Democratic presidential candidates Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, a 104 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, CNN reported on a story with unnamed sources, 105 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: now confirmed to be associated with Warren's camp. The question 106 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: whether she knew is still debatable. Sanders told Warren that 107 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: a woman could not win the twenty twenty presidency. Warren 108 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: later confirmed the story, while Sanders denied it. His campaign 109 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: called such statement a lie, and the Democratic debate that 110 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: came soon after they both seemed to want to avoid 111 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: discussing it, both agreeing, of course a woman can be president. 112 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: But at the end of the debate we see Warren 113 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: appeared to refuse to shake Sanders hand, and the next 114 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: day hashtag never Warren and hashtag Warren is a snake 115 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: were trending and snake emojis were everywhere everywhere. It was 116 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: absurd quotes and videos of Bernie saying a woman should 117 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: be president or circulating, along with the fact that he 118 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: encouraged Warren to run in twenty six worth noting, while 119 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: a lot of these definitely came from Bernie supporters, some 120 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: almost definitely came from bots, foreign influencers and conservatives. And 121 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: I know, like when I was looking through all of 122 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: the it Are debates and back and forth, which was 123 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: really disheartening in itself, there was obvious bots in there 124 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: that was kind of just fueling that whole idea. And 125 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: I think also it's good to know, and I know 126 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: we weren't talk a little more that when we paraphrase conversations, 127 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: it is dangerous because I don't think it's an all 128 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: or none type of situation. And that's just my personal 129 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: opinion because I could absolutely I have made the statement 130 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: this was in two thou four, no, two thousand, when 131 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I said I think there will be a black president 132 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: before there is a woman president. And those are not 133 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: necessarily because I wanted it that way, which either one 134 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: I was very happy with. I miss Obama, Um okay, 135 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: yeah uh, But I think what it came down to 136 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: is whether or not the world or the country will 137 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: would accept that as a possibility. Yeah. And I'm gonna 138 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: put a time stamp on this one or recording this 139 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: January because it is changing a lot. Yeah, but from 140 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: what I've ascertaining from all this stuff I've read. Basically 141 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: what Bernie said was sexism. Trump will use anything that 142 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: he can as a weapon, including racism and sexism, right 143 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: to prevent someone from getting elected. Elizabeth Warren interpreted that 144 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: as a woman can't get elected. You think a woman 145 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: can't get elected against Trump? And I do remember her 146 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: making the statement saying that, yes he said it, but 147 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Let's move on. And then again, like 148 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: I said, I wish it none of this. I wish 149 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: no one, no one had just addressed that, just moved on. 150 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: That would be better or at least different timing. Maybe. Yeah. Um, 151 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: And that kind of goes back to differing interpretations. That's 152 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: what a lot of people reporting on this say. Warren 153 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: interpreting it as oh, okay, a woman can't be elected 154 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: president and Bernie telling it like he thinks it is. 155 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: Is um. Although Warren probably did not need to be 156 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: told that sexism would come up in her ability in 157 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: itself and women in itself, Yes, we know, yes, And 158 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: going back to that snake, snake is a pretty loaded 159 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: term when it comes to sexism, hearkening all the way 160 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: back to even the apple, applying that women are not 161 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: to be trusted, manipulative or downright evil in the internet world. 162 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: It represents complete hatred of someone. Most believe it originated 163 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: with the Kim Kat Swift controversy. That's what I know 164 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: it from. She definitely Kim k definitely tweeted out it's 165 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: National snake Day and she right yeah. This was apparently 166 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: in response to belief that Warren had broken the pack 167 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: between herself and Sanders to remain friendly and not attack 168 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: each other on the campaign. People accused her of stabbing 169 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: Bernie in the back, and many people have pointed out 170 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: this is why women don't call out sexism in the 171 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: first place. Right. Adding fuel to this rift was a 172 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: political report that found a script for volunteers on Sanders 173 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: campaign with this line describing Warren's supporters quote highly educated, 174 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: more affluent people who are going to show up and 175 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: vote democratic no matter what. Warren called it disheartening that 176 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: the campaign was going out and trash talking her. This 177 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: actually happened prior to the leak or whatever it was 178 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: about the comment, and no one accused Sanders becks habbing Warren. 179 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: Right now, if I remember correctly, I think the statement 180 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: from Sanders was that he didn't approve it, but he 181 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: has many of staffers. I mean, okay, he's not wrong, 182 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: and I get that, but I did think it was 183 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: interesting how we quickly bypassed that to the other. Oh, 184 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: he said women can be presidents, which to me, I'm like, well, 185 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: both of those are not very encouraging for the other, 186 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: and not that it needs more. But then tane Vogue 187 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: also continued with the narrative with the op ed titled 188 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren's fake beef with Bernie Sanders is a sign 189 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: the primaries are heating up, which was also followed by 190 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: many people tweeting it and retweeting it or responding to 191 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: it with hashtag refund Warren and bringing back the narrative 192 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: of dividing and feviushly attacking each other details that diminished 193 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: who the real opposition is. And I think it also 194 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: was a call to take back money from the campaign, 195 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: which I was like, what Act Blue is the organization 196 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: that has collected a lot of money for many Democratic candidates, 197 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: But I don't understand how this process would go. But 198 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: people are really behind this idea of taking money back, 199 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: which is again very disheartening. Yeah. Yeah, and and we're 200 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: not really, We're more concerned with the the opposition and 201 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: also the difference in reactions between right as opposed to 202 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: write Obviously, as we said, we are more concerned about 203 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: the opposition in the head and then just more of 204 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: oh no, it's coming back to where we were yes 205 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: in elections. Yes, because for many all of this is 206 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: disturbingly similar to that election when supporters of Hillary couldn't 207 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: reported that they received harassment when talking about sexism in politics. 208 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: I r l and online from this called Bernie Bros. 209 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: Which is the stereotype. It's actually more divided around age 210 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: and women make up more than half of Bernie supporters 211 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: in his twenty campaign, although it was largely white male 212 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: and several female staffers complained about pay in equity and 213 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: sexual misconduct. Also, there was that hashtag burn the witch 214 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: problematic but to too combat that Bernie Sanders has hired, 215 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: that he has hired a lot of women in diversity 216 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,239 Speaker 1: for this campaign. Anyway, Uh, for my own personal experience 217 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: among my extremely liberal side of the family, I mentioned 218 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: kind of after the election the election off handedly that 219 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: I thought there was a double standard when it came 220 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: to the press coverage of Hillary Clinton, and that I 221 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: wasn't as big as a Bernie fan as everyone else. 222 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: Note not I didn't like him right, and I paid 223 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: the price for it. Oh, it was an argument for 224 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: the ages. I got yelled at for hours by primarily 225 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: the men at this event, and I literally ended up 226 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: backed into a corner with people yelling at me. My 227 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: mom and I took shots at three am. There's a 228 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: tweet about it, some of my few tweets. I'm in 229 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: the kitchen. This is how Christmas ends, not with thing, 230 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: but that's deservedly so. And again we want to emphasize 231 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: we're not saying one way or the other. I don't 232 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: think that what we're looking at is the biases that 233 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: are here. And then also the concerns of the fact 234 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: that it is again divisive. Yes, yes, because I was 235 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: so shocked, I just thought, oh yeah, yeah, do you know, 236 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: no harm comment liberal they understand exactly no um And 237 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: kind of related to that, just remindering the episode I 238 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: did with the Daily Z eight Guys around women, politics 239 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: and likability in seen during that election cycle. Reporters were 240 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: asking why didn't we go with a more likable female 241 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: candidate like Elizabeth war Right, So Manny said, so many 242 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: people said they'd be fine with female candidate Jess not 243 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, they'd be ecstatic to vote for Elizabeth Warren. 244 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: I guess not. Nope, Nope. It's literally the same stuff 245 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: people complained about with Clinton. Unlikeable, elitist liar. Yeah. Also, 246 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,359 Speaker 1: Hillary just said in a documentary, no one likes Barnie Sanders, 247 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: and the internet is freaking out whether or not this 248 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: is true. If someone had said this about Hillary, and 249 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to say, yeah, they probably did. Actually a 250 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: lot of people did. People said that to me, They 251 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: just didn't like her. They couldn't tell me why other 252 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: than I don't trust her, I don't like her. There 253 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been and there wasn't as much back as 254 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: it is now. And you can argue this comes down 255 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: to the individuality. But again, yeah, sexism, there's a part 256 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: of that. And yes, Sanders faces media bias as well. 257 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: We know those ages and comes in here as well, 258 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: and and and he he is he is a big 259 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: supporter in open healthcare, all of those things, and it 260 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: is very very problematic war Obviously the Republican Party they've 261 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: always been against that and would always fight that in 262 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: every way. So yes, he does deal with a lot 263 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: of bias as well. I think he's dismissed a lot 264 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: by a lot of mainstream is true. Um, also just 265 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: his he shouts a lot, right, he shouts that's that's 266 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: a that's a bias. Let him talk how he wants 267 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: to talk, I say, as I yell into the mic. 268 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: So some Clinton supporters are still angry at Bernie's supporters 269 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: who stayed home, voted independent or worse, Trump and Bernie 270 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: supporters are still angry that Clinton and the Democratic Party 271 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: in their minds quote unquote, stole Bernie's nomination. And we're 272 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: seeing that it goes of that now. As in fact, 273 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: I just saw an interview saying once again, if Bernie 274 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: was not the actual candidate, they would not vote or 275 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: that they would vote independent. Please stop it. I did 276 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: have a friend that told me that as well. We 277 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: were sitting together a big group of us, and he 278 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: said he would not vote for Hillary and said there's 279 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: no way Trump wiwin, and in come back plast foward, 280 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: we started yelling at him. Now I had friends that 281 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: did that too, and they were the ones doing signing 282 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: the petition, like, oh, take it back. I'm like no, 283 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: I can't take it back, you stop talking. And unfortunately, 284 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: as as you were saying, Samantha, this whole thing really 285 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: helps out Trump and Biden, two candidates that committed much 286 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: more out in the open acts of sexism. And with that, 287 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: adding a side note, there is a rumor that Kamala 288 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Harris will be endorsing Biden, and with that there's a 289 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: call that if Biden was elected, that he would put 290 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: Harris on his ticket, which sounds interesting. You know, that's 291 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: that's very strategic, I will say with Julian Cashow, he 292 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: who was endorsed one, yeah at this point. Well, and 293 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: then that's another controversy that I guess we'll just mention 294 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: but not really get into detailed when New York Times 295 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: endorsed both Elizabeth Warren and Amy Kocher, and the Internet 296 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: was not happy about that either. That's rolling around right now. 297 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. And then just to put that 298 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: Corey Booker has not endorsed anyone, but seems to be 299 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 1: very much the middle child who is trying to make 300 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: amends between Bernie and Warren. Have you seeing any of 301 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: the statements, But I like that as a middle child 302 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: can appreciate that something else we wanted to touch on 303 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: here um is the sexual assault of Evelyn Yang because 304 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: this was a recent story in our political cycle. She is, 305 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: of course, the wife of presidential candidate Andrew Yang Um 306 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: and she detailed her alleged sexual assault while pregnant at 307 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: the hands of her O B G y N and 308 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: according to her, after reading a letter a woman wrote 309 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: to her on her husband's campaign about her, this woman 310 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 1: deciding to press charges of against somebody who had sexually 311 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: assaulted her. Evelyn Yang reported Um feeling this connection with 312 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: this person and wishing she could reach out and say basically, 313 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: I feel you. And that wasn't the first time she'd 314 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: heard stories like this on the campaign, so she decided 315 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: to go public for the first time. Sitting down with CNN, 316 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: she shared the story of her first pregnancy and how 317 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: she sought out a well known Columbia based O B 318 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: G y N Dr Robert Hadden. Both her and Andrew 319 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: Yang went to Columbia. I believe at first everything seemed 320 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: totally fine, but then he started asking for these really personal, 321 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: unprompted sexual questions. He asked for more frequent visits, longer visits, 322 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: assumedly taking advantage of her anxiety around her first pregnancy 323 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: and the difficulty of changing doctors. At one visit, he 324 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: allegedly claimed that she may need a C section and 325 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: examined her ungloved um and after this assault was over, 326 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: Eveliniang left and never returned. In her words, she kept 327 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: it to herself for so long because she didn't want 328 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: other people to feel guilty. Are too upset them and 329 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: as we've talked about before, that is a very common thing. 330 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: But she did go on to report it. Eighteen other 331 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: female patients of Hadden have reported him as well. He 332 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: took a plea deal in twenty sixteen. His license was removed. 333 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: I think he had to register as a level one 334 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: sexual offender, but he did not go to prison. He 335 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: had been arrested for sexual assault before Evelyn Yang ever 336 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: even showed up at his office, but it was allowed 337 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: to return, along with thirty one others. Yang issuing Columbia 338 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: University for a cover up and allowing a known sexual 339 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: predator to keep working, which is unfortunately a continuing routine 340 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: of many of professional level then who get to get 341 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: away with these types of things with a slap on 342 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: the wrist and return and return to keep um and 343 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: still not in jail. Yeah, and while we're discussing the topic, 344 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: we did want to add the current proceedings of the 345 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: Weinstein trial. Actress Annabelle SiO testified against him, describing traumatic 346 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: details of the rape. Also, it was stated that it 347 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: seemed during the testimony, Weinstein may have nodded off, which 348 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: was you know, yeah, for the course, I guess. His lawyer, 349 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: Donna Ratana, seemed to continue the unnecessary tactic of victim 350 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: blaming and rephrasing as a cross examination practice. She asked 351 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: questions like did you scream? Did you hit him? Try 352 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: to poke him in the eyes? And of course the 353 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: why didn't you tell anybody? I think that that again 354 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: is one more problematic issue that this is being used 355 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: again by female who also has already made a statement 356 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: stating that she felt that me too movement was problematic 357 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: and actually harmful, which says a lot for her personality. 358 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. It's also rumored if you continue 359 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: to keep track, and I know it's very very very triggering, 360 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: just enough why I just reading some of these things. 361 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: It's also rumored that Rosie Perez will be testifying against 362 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: him as well, so that could be an interesting moment. 363 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: In the conversation as well, we wanted to talk about 364 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: Deborah Dogan, who was the Grammy CEO who got ousted, 365 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: and after that there came many a many a paperwork 366 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: that showed that she had allegedly been fired after she 367 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: filed a complaint about sexual harassment against the Grammy's lawyer. 368 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Within this document, it talks about all the different bias, 369 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: this racism, sexism that's been occurring, including the fact that 370 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: the predecessor of her, the previous CEO, had actually been 371 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: accused of rape as well, and that it was all hidden. 372 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things to be uncovered here, obviously, 373 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: but she was only there for I wanted six months 374 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: or a short amount of time, and during that time 375 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: she had stated that she was unable to see what 376 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: was going on and it was really really stifled by 377 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: the industry and not being able to do what she 378 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: was hired for and essentially as a way to bring 379 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: in inclusion. Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting to see 380 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: how that it folds, especially as we've already talked about 381 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: and we will be talking about rather with all of 382 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: the issues within the awards ceremonies. This is kind of 383 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: coming seeing the background of what might be happening with 384 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: the grammates, and it kind of makes sense. Yeah, we 385 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: will be getting into that in a second. But I 386 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: also wanted to touch on this. There's been this whole kerfuffle, 387 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: I guess, around this doctored photo. So if you haven't 388 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: heard about this, UM, there was discovery of photos that 389 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: have been doctored by the National Archives to censor references 390 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: to women's anatomy and negative things about Donald Trump from 391 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: the twenties seventeen Women's March after he was elected. The 392 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: images showed UM protesters holding signs. Only the language on 393 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: the signs, including God hates Trump and Trump and the 394 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: GOP hands off women were blurred out, like you could 395 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: read God hates but Trump was blurred out. Um Yeah, 396 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: things like that. UM, as were the signs that read 397 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: vagina in Possey. Those were that was blurred out. When 398 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: called out about it, they did admit. The National Archives 399 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: admitted that they had made a mistake and that they 400 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: would restore the images as soon as possible, But the 401 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: a c l U has filed a suit demanding to 402 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: know who ordered the altering of the image. The National 403 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: Archives claimed it was a nonpartisan move to avoid current 404 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: political controversy backfire. Yeah, and they went asked they could 405 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: not provide evidence of ever doing so before. Um and 406 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: also I doubt this would ever have come to light 407 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: if a reporter hadn't kind of he saw the image 408 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: and thought that looks blurred and then asked for the 409 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: original from Getty and realized that they had been doctored. 410 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, this was part of an exhibit to commemorate 411 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: women's suffrage. By the way, no problem there. So the 412 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: National Archives claims they did this because they got a 413 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: lot of young visitors, but they could just you know, 414 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: just chosen difference photos. Yeah, no need to alters your concern, which, 415 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: by the way, it is more intriguing about like what 416 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: was there? Why what? And then yell. Historian Joanne Freeman wrote, 417 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: don't get me started on the irony Women's Voice being 418 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: erased dot dot dot from the Women's March. Yeah. Yeah, 419 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: so that's also ongoing. We'll see what happens there. And 420 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: we do want to return to some some controversy in 421 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: these awards there. Yeah, but first we're gonna take one 422 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: more quick break for word from our sponsor, and we're back. 423 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, sponsor. Let's talk about the Oscar. Here we go, 424 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go. The day the nominations 425 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: came out, I had a friend staying with me and 426 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: she woke up to me like shouting, the Irishman, the Joker. 427 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: They both lead the way for most nominations. The Joker 428 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: head slightly with eleven. That's yep, the most. And I've 429 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: seen all of the nominations except The Joker and Ford 430 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: versus Ferrari and y'all know I love comic books, but 431 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: The Joker was too close to in Cell for comfort 432 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: for me. I'll see it eventually. It. Yeah, I haven't 433 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: seen The Irish Men, but I have seen The Joker, 434 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 1: and yes, it was um an interesting movie, but nothing 435 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: that I would recommend. And I told you not to 436 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: watch it, right, and I was like, don't do it. 437 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: There seems to be a general dislike of women inside 438 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: the story, and I don't know if it's purposeful. I 439 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: don't know what the point of it is. Maybe it's 440 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: to show how messed up a system is. I don't know, 441 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: but you're you know. Protagonist slash antagonist sees this perspective 442 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: of kind of the fact that women and the rich 443 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: are problematic to his life. So you have an abusive mother, um, 444 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: and an imagined slight from a neighbor woman and a 445 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: dismissiveness of a social worker, which I take personally, Come on, 446 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: why why do they have to be portrayed that way 447 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: all the time? Um? But it's obvious what this kind 448 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: of sentiment is, and it is kind of alarming that 449 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: this is the best movie we've had. Well, it's really 450 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: funny because I was when I was researching this, I 451 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: was reading past reviews of it from critics, and a 452 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: lot of critics were like, it's empty, it's and then 453 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: they these same people went and gave it all these right, 454 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: And I do find it funny that the director originally 455 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: stated that he was doing this because he was tired 456 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: of the cancel culture and the dangerous Yeah, and then 457 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: you're like, so we're gonna reward because we call people 458 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: out and you find that you don't offensive or something, 459 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: or you find that stifling for you because you can't 460 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: say everything you want to say or do whatever you want. Right, 461 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: that's a whole other that's a whole other conversation. But 462 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: I do find that problematic that we're celebrating it in 463 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: such a way as in fact, and not only celebrating it, 464 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: but ignoring the other things that are out there that 465 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: should also be celebrated, if not more right, because this 466 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: is kind of another instance of Oscar so white, Oscar 467 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: so male. Women did get about the nominations, which sadly 468 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: slash happily enough, is the most Ever, most of those 469 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: were four behind the screen stuff though, which is still important, 470 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: still hugely important. Despite getting nominations for acting and screenplay 471 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: and all kinds of other things, a Little Women's Credit 472 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: Gerwig and A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhoods director Mary 473 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: el Heller, they both weren't nominated for Best Director, and 474 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: say when she read the nomination said congratulations to those men. 475 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: She's created a fantastic mean bet. Midler also tweeted, maybe 476 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: we just get our own show called the Oscar Hers. 477 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: I guarantee you'll be way better organized and way more entertaining. 478 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, That's why I put it in there, 479 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: like she's been on her mind. I love them that, 480 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: I love them that that needs to be on a pillow, 481 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: just saying. Arguably Jordan Peel for us and Lulu Wong 482 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: for writing and directing The Farewell with Aquafina Molina, Matt 483 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: Sukas for Queen and Slim, Cassie Lemons for Harriet, Lorene 484 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: Scafaria for Hustlers, and Alma Harrell for Hunting Boy. That 485 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: those all came up in this conversation of why didn't 486 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: we nominate them? Also, Aquafina herself specifically Beyonce nominated for 487 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: Lion Kings song Spirit. Right, only five women have been 488 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: nominated for Best Director and only one has one. It 489 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: was for a military movie. Yes, and that is interesting, Yes, 490 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: because that's something we're going to talk about a minute. Um, 491 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: there's kind of a genre bias for masculinized genres. Also, 492 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: you're curious about twenty of the seventy hosts of the 493 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: Oscars War Women this year there will be no host, 494 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: which is probably smart. Yeah for now right, I'm just 495 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, do you know next year for 496 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: Golden Globe any Pollarantina Fay are back. They're back. They're back. Baby. 497 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: I want to put in their knives out. My favorite 498 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: was not nominated, but only for one thing, ridiculous. We 499 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: are going to see it. I'm going to see it 500 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: for the first time. I love that. You're like, hey, 501 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: you can see a movie It's like to thirty in 502 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: the morning. Because I was hanging out with my and 503 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to go see it. I 504 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: was like, okay, I got another friend. You have another 505 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: friend time. Oh no, only you. That's what I thought, 506 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: all right. So I think it's also noted that only 507 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: two non white actors were nominated. Jennifer Lopez was passed 508 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: over for Best Supporting Actors for Hustlers, and Lapida and 509 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: Yngo for Best Actors for US. Yeah, and going back 510 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: to that genre thing, I read a lot of articles 511 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: about this of genre bias for masculinized genres like war 512 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: movies being favored over feminized genres like comedy and surprisingly horror. 513 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: A lot of the movies nominated for Best Picture UM 514 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: are also movies about white men afraid of losing their 515 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: culture and lashing out because of it, and the bath 516 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: Does weren't much better. They also might have actually been worse. 517 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 1: Not a single woman of color was nominated for an 518 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: acting award in the BATHTA nominations, and all the director 519 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: nominations were also right. Santia Rivo, actress singer I actually 520 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: turned down an invitation to perform in protests of Baptist 521 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 1: so white essentially, and that one thing I read that 522 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: might be There's a lot of a lot of things 523 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: happening here, obviously, but one part of the problem that 524 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: I hadn't really considered is the lack of female critics. 525 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: This is actually pretty huge, and I'm sure we'll probably 526 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: return to it for a future episode. But in brief, 527 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: men make up about sixty of film critics and women 528 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: thirty four. Men write most of the reviews for most 529 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: genres except movies about women, So reviews four movies about 530 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: women are getting written less because women are the ones 531 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: that write them, and they are less women writing. Female 532 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: reviewers are likelier to mention the name of a female 533 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: director as compared to male reviewers, and when you do 534 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: that a lot of times you list other things they do, 535 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: which gives them more exposure. So that's not really happening. 536 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: Male critics give lower ratings to movies with female protagonists. Surprise, 537 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: so shocking, so shocking. And then we want to into 538 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: this one, I guess, with kind of a many update 539 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: on some problematic women, though there are there are, um yeah, 540 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: and we've got to start with Jillian Michael's and her 541 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: ridiculous interview on busfeed essentially, and which he decided it 542 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: was appropriate to use Lizzo as an example of unhealthy 543 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: glorification of obesity, insinuating she was promoting diabetes and heart problems, 544 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, that didn't go over very well. I did 545 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: love Lizzo's response, in which she continued to twerk all 546 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: the way throughout her instagram is not ever calling her 547 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: out directly, but making sure it was pointed towards her. 548 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: I also do love that she also featured herself doing 549 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: her performances every night, in the stamina and the dances 550 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: and the routines that she has to go through, which 551 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: I thought about. That's the first thing I thought, like, 552 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: if anybody's out of shape, it's me. If anyone's out 553 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: of shape, crazy, right, because I can only last about 554 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: forty five minutes before I'm like, I'm going to die now. 555 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: And I love doing that. But the intensity, the singing, 556 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: the performance, in the continuation of her having to do 557 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: all of these things takes a lot just watching some 558 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: of the documentary for behind the scene stages or performance 559 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: as you know, as an intense level. So yeah, I 560 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: think it was very interesting. And and then even Jillian's 561 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: quote unquote apology was so absurd and so backhanded that 562 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: it just it's one more of the things of please 563 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: stop talking. Yeah, just why why why must you? And 564 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: we understand health and fitness is something that is your profession, 565 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: but no one really asked you about these specific people, 566 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: which are old co host from Biggest Loser Bob Harper 567 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: was asked, you know, what do you think? And he 568 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: made sure then let them know, he goes, I don't 569 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: give an opinion if it's not asked. If you asked 570 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: me an opinion, I may tell you because you came 571 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: directly to me and asked for it. But why do 572 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: we need to go out there and just make claims 573 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: or make criticisms for no reason. That's not my business. 574 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's a great reminder it's not your business. Yeah. Yeah, 575 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: And if people don't know, because I would. I'm actually 576 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: not really familiar with Jillian Michaels. I just have seen 577 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: her background my Big Protein Way Protein Day. She was 578 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: one of the options for protein. That's all I knew 579 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: about her. There you go, but she Yeah, she's big 580 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: into getting fits working out right. She became known through 581 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: the show Biggest Loser, which capitalized on the weight loss 582 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: industry in the US in a major, major way. Don't 583 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: get me wrong. A lot of the people who chose 584 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: to be there it was great for them, wonderful whatever. 585 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: There was some success stories. There was a lot of 586 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: not success stories that needs to be said. But yeah, 587 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: she her money is made as being a personal trainer, 588 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: and that's fine, and she has a whole industry based 589 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: on that, protein shakes being one of them. Yes, in 590 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: books and all kinds of videos and such. I think 591 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: I had bought her videos a while back. They yeah, 592 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: I will say that. But again, there's no reason to 593 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: call out people without even knowing or even being asked 594 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: to rack about that specifically. Now she was in an 595 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: interview and trying to give an example and why why 596 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: no need? Yeah, yeah, I guess Speaking of our second 597 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: problematic women I want to talk about is JK. Rolling. 598 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: It was very disappointing so this we had just done 599 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: our episode on woman Harry Potter and we were like 600 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: done for the year, and then we see on Twitter 601 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: trending JK Rolling is a turf because she tweeted support 602 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: for UM, an anti trans researcher, basically UM saying biology 603 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: is a thing, like, we can't say it's not a thing. 604 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: And if you don't know what a turf is, it's 605 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: trans exclusionary radical feminists. And this is basically women who 606 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: who define womanhood through biology rather than gender identity. Um, 607 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: and it's it's pretty toxic. It's a way of keeping 608 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: people out and is and and they feel it as 609 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: a threat to the gender, which is absert in itself. 610 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand how it's a threat. Yeah yeah, I'm 611 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: thinking statistic why why? Why? Right? What is the point? 612 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: There was no need to even talk about it, and 613 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: I guess for those out there, they would rather know 614 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: than not. Oh this is who you really are. I 615 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: see you now, that's fantastic. But at the same time, 616 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: you're kind of thinking there was no need, so no 617 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: one really is. Well, actually, she's Maine statements about it before, 618 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: for sure, but they kind of bypassed because it wasn't 619 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: absolutes in the statement. But now with her coming in 620 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: and conveying that she absolutely agrees that this woman has 621 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: the right to ignore a request of a coworker and 622 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: that's not discrimination. M that's not that's not how that goes. 623 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: If they don't want to talk to them, Okay, as 624 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: long as you're not being biased or harassing them as 625 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: an individual. There's a lot of people I don't like 626 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: at work. Has nothing to do anything else. I might, 627 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's finally coming out, But 628 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: there's no need to do all of that and purposely 629 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: go out of your way to make someone uncomfortable or 630 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: hurt someone. And to say that that is a right 631 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: is even one upped to Oh, you're a horrible person 632 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: to say that that's your right to do that to 633 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: someone because you're ignorant. I don't know what makes you uncomfortable. 634 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: That you're exactly your rights and comfort. And unfortunately, on 635 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: top of that, she actually got the support of many 636 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: of the people that she would rally against for being whatever, sexist, biased, 637 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: any of those things, politically incorrect, hateful. She gained their 638 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: support a majority of the tweets that she would get. 639 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: And I don't know if she noted was I never 640 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: agreed with her before, but she's absolutely right. I never 641 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: really liked you now, But no, no no, no, I don't 642 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: believe in witchcraft like supporting Yeah, that was supporting that tweet, 643 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: and I feel like that should have been. But she 644 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: just she has and has not made any changes to 645 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: that opinion. And we can't change people's opinions. But people 646 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: with influence like that, you need to understand there is 647 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: a price to pay it, whether it does cancelation when 648 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: she has the billions of dollars. So I'm guessing she 649 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: don't care. Yeah, I mean you can hope, you can 650 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: hope that you can change people's mind. I mean that's 651 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: the benefit of being a privileged, rich white woman, isn't 652 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: it true? Um? And that it's funny because as everyone knows, 653 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: I I love Harry Potter, and I remember UM having 654 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: this moment because I also love fan fiction, fan fiction. 655 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: What I'm writing a fan fiction right now, I'll admit 656 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: it is it about us. No, but I wish someone 657 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: would write a fan fiction amount I don't. I can't 658 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: imagine what that would be. I'd be happy to Um. 659 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: I you know, I I opened the whole world of 660 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: fan fiction, and you just realized in the Harry Potter universe, 661 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: it's you marry your high school sweetheart and it's heterosexual, 662 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: and it says, so that's kind of it's um And 663 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 1: so fan fiction gave me all the use of wonderful 664 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: other options. Yes, and speaking of for our out here today, 665 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: one of our listeners wrote in after we did our 666 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: episode on women of Harry Potter, Sophia. Sophia wrote, I 667 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: have my own podcast about Harry Potter called Potter Nonsense, 668 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: where our mission is to discuss and question the aspects 669 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: of the world which JK. Rowling is uninterested in exploring. 670 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: Great great title. Yes, I really love that name. Just 671 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: joined with that out there. It's awesome keeping yes, she 672 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: continues as feminist. My co host Ray and I have 673 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: to temper our love of the series with the more 674 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: unfortunate aspects of J. K. Rowlings personal politics which come 675 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: through in the books racism, fat phobia, able is um, 676 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: internalized misogyny, and the more recent ways she has been 677 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: problematic using her public platform, most notably her transphobia. We 678 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: have had episodes where we go deep on the female 679 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: characters we feel we're underserved by the series, including one 680 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: of the most interesting discussions I think I've ever had 681 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: regarding Harry Potter about the fact that adult women who 682 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: aren't mothers are either evil are peable in the world. 683 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: Were presented with McGonagall is not a mother in the 684 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: traditional sense, but she serves as a parential figure to 685 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: Griffin Doors and talks as a mother by the end 686 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: of the series, so we excluded them from our ranks 687 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 1: of the childless scolds and the spinster weirdos. While our 688 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: discussions are often critical, we come from a place of 689 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: loving the series and a genuine desire to figure out 690 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: how the world works. Is there another wizarding prison or 691 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: does everyone have to go to evil skeleton jail? Is 692 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: wizarding Britain a democracy? And we also have a bit 693 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: of fun with things like assigning houses to Marvel superheroes. 694 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: Oh Sofia, can you assign us the house? I mean truly, 695 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: not just because what we want it to be. I 696 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: mean I would love that. I feel pretty confident, which 697 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: what I am. We also need to include, of course, 698 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: producer Andrew Yes Mitron is. By the way, is the 699 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: swift I told you mine it's some kind of horse, 700 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: right Yeah. And You're like, oh, no, You're gonna die 701 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: or something. I was like, what, No, I think I 702 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: might have just been figuring because you are a nightmare. 703 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: Oh all day, all day? Well, that podcast sounds right 704 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 1: at my alley and if any listeners, um, I want 705 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: to check it out please please do so. And hey, y'all, 706 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: guess what we're going to be in l A soon. 707 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: We are, that's right, So if you all you know 708 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: I want to tell us what to do in l A, 709 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: that'd be awesome as well as if you know anybody's around, 710 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: maybe you want to come get some coffee with us, 711 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: let us up. Yes, yes, a chess. We will be 712 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: in l A from February twelve through the fifteenth. I 713 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,879 Speaker 1: think we fly out on the sixteenth, but we'll we'll 714 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: be too busy flying out that day, so we'll see 715 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: what I meet is at the airport. That's cool. You 716 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: give them specific days. I don't give them a specifics. 717 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: You're just going to be vague. And yeah, because I 718 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: don't want them to come if they don't like us 719 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: to come get us. Oh well that's okay, that would 720 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: be a really interesting hateless Look. I always think someone's 721 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: gonna try to kidnap bus. Okay, Oh well that's great, 722 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: Please don't do that. 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