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Speaker 1: Hot pointer time, I'll talk about the Nats General manager

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Speaker 1: search KRATS. Mike Rizzo was let go in July and

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Speaker 1: Mike to Bartelow is the interim GM. But Bob Nightingale

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Speaker 1: first was reporting about it, and then the story came

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Speaker 1: out in the Athletic. Ken's involved in that story and

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Speaker 1: they are interviewing a number of candidates, which include Carter Hawkins,

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Speaker 1: the Cubs current GM, Diamondbacks executive Amiel Sade, and Dodgers

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Speaker 1: senior vice president Josh Burns. There's the article Carter Hawkins

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Speaker 1: gets the picture on the page. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I think to Bartelow, from what I've heard from the Nats.

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Speaker 2: From Nats people had a lot more to do with

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Speaker 2: some of these massive trade halls at the brought in

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Speaker 2: and why he's not the one that's up for it,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But whoever they bring in, whoever it

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Speaker 2: ends up being, if Carter Hawkins is the guy, I

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Speaker 2: need to build up this minor league system. And I

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Speaker 2: don't mean with just people that are traded and brought over.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking the staff needs to be able to produce

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Speaker 2: more minor leaguers that have a big big league impact.

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Speaker 2: Everybody that's had a big league impact was either the

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Speaker 2: first pick, their first pick in the draft, which was

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Speaker 2: not a lot of development with or traded and picked

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Speaker 2: up from another team, which there's not a lot of developments,

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Speaker 2: just like, hey, we're gonna give you two hundred bats

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Speaker 2: in double A one hundle A and then you'll come

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Speaker 2: up to the big leagues Like that's whoever they get

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Speaker 2: that better be their specialty.

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Speaker 1: For the record, or at least according to the article,

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Speaker 1: to Bartelow, who's the intern JM is in the mix,

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Speaker 1: so he is among the candidates. They're just listing other ones.

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Speaker 1: They're doing their homework, which I will give them credit for. Wait. Wait,

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Speaker 1: so they're going to hire a new GM and they're

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Speaker 1: going to do at the very least what's called an

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Speaker 1: info suck and find out information about how other teams

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Speaker 1: are operating. Not every team does that, but good on

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Speaker 1: the Nats for doing it. Let me give you a

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Speaker 1: little bit more context on Carter Hawkins, since I think

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Speaker 1: he's the highest position wise of the external candidates, and

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Speaker 1: he's the face on the article there so he's the

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Speaker 1: GM of the Cubs. And in the article they said

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Speaker 1: with the Cubs closing in on their first playoff berth.

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Speaker 1: Since twenty twenty, Hawkins has been involved in revamping the

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Speaker 1: club's R and D research and development department and streamlining

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Speaker 1: scouting on the pro, amateur and international sides, with a

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Speaker 1: bigger emphasis on data and video rather than in person evaluations.

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Speaker 1: He was hired away from the Guardians after the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one Cubs have been developing much better lately. If

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Speaker 1: I'm using that as a blanket statement, and so I

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Speaker 1: Day Sharma somewhat agreed with that yesterday. So that would

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Speaker 1: be a good sign and would play into what Kratz

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Speaker 1: is talking about. If you're the Nats, you need to

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Speaker 1: develop more players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we also need people that are actually seeing players.

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Speaker 2: I don't agree with just the full we're going to

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Speaker 2: go full a's and go no scouts in the field

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Speaker 2: because they haven't won anything.

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Speaker 3: They have want shit.

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Speaker 2: So let's also establish that you've got to have people

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Speaker 2: out there watching guys that get to know the players.

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Speaker 2: Just watching them on video doesn't give you anything on

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Speaker 2: their makeup or any of that. You got to actually

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Speaker 2: have communication with players and see them play and see

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Speaker 2: them struggle and see how they react. When I ran

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Speaker 2: into Carter Hawkins in the Guardians organization Indians at the time,

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Speaker 2: he was part of the group there, the front office

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Speaker 2: group there that really did a good job of weeding

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Speaker 2: out coaches and front office who, without mincing words, weren't

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Speaker 2: good people like the group of people that the Guardians

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Speaker 2: have there now in the front office coaching staffs. Their

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Speaker 2: exact wording was, yes, we want good coaches, but we

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Speaker 2: want people who can really lead men. So if Carter

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Speaker 2: Hawkins can bring that over to wherever he becomes a

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Speaker 2: GM next, wherever he becomes a paid president of baseball

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Speaker 2: operations next, I think he has a I think that

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Speaker 2: organization will have a leg up. Look at what hein

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Speaker 2: Bloom did with the Red Sox. Yes, he got the

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Speaker 2: short end of the stick, as you know, they didn't

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Speaker 2: But you're seeing a lot of that come to fruition.

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Speaker 2: That starts not just with the players that are picked,

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Speaker 2: So I know for a fact, because I saw Carter

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Speaker 2: and I hope he would bring that and not just

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Speaker 2: the not just the like impersonal. Hey, we're gonna watch

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Speaker 2: everything on video and never actually get our eyes on somebody.

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Speaker 1: The other thing for the Nats is eventually they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to figure out what their plan is. From the

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Speaker 1: tippy top, the ownership situation was they're up for sale.

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Speaker 1: It sounded like they didn't get the price they wanted

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Speaker 1: where are we at right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Are they gonna sell? Are they gonna stay? Or are

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Speaker 2: they gonna buy some players? Because that was always a

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Speaker 2: thing when they won, they went out and got players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't have to leave the league in payroll.

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Speaker 2: But but they need to go out and get the

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Speaker 2: Max Suers or is the Patrick Corbyns, those guys Jason

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Speaker 2: Worth to come in and fill the right roles.

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Speaker 1: The star power worked for them, the star power acquisitions,

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Speaker 1: remember Max schers are At the time, people are like,

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Speaker 1: what you're paying them? What he was worth every penny

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Speaker 1: to you? Yeah, he gave you the individual, he gave

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Speaker 1: you the World Series title, he gave you everything. And

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Speaker 1: I thought this past season was gonna be the year

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Speaker 1: that they made a little push Kratz. I was like, Eh,

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Speaker 1: maybe they'll go get an ace. Maybe they'll go get

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Speaker 1: a big boy bat to go along with some of

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Speaker 1: didn't do it. So that's part of this and that's

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Speaker 1: not going to be controlled by whoever they bring in next.

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Speaker 1: I mean, whoever they bring in next, hopefully eventually is

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Speaker 1: with you know, I would say either an ownership group

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to sell. I'm pretty confident that

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Speaker 1: they're looking to sell. They just want to wait until

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Speaker 1: they get through the next collective bargaining agreement, which sounds

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Speaker 1: like it's the case for almost all of them at

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Speaker 1: this point. Doesn't it sound like many of the owners

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Speaker 1: are pulling back because they think they're going to get

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Speaker 1: more after the collective bargaining agreement gets settled. FT family,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not going to sell three teams in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. You know you can't. There's just not

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Speaker 2: that many people that have that much money just hanging

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Speaker 2: around to purchase teams. I disagree, like you see because

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Speaker 2: then also those guys are getting sucked up by the

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Speaker 2: teams or the new expansion teams too, Like you're talking

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Speaker 2: people in the billions.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but these are people in separate cities. I mean, AJ,

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Speaker 1: where do you stand on this one? For me, let's

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Speaker 1: use the Twins as an example. They said, we are

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Speaker 1: selling this team for one point seven billion dollars plus

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Speaker 1: you take on I think about four hundred million dollars

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Speaker 1: really one point five is one point nine because of

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Speaker 1: the four hundred million in debt. That's real money. And

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Speaker 1: so they said, this is what it's worth, and the

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Speaker 1: a real story in the athletic. So I think there

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Speaker 1: where they're like, I have to pay an extra two

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Speaker 1: Like how much of a tax is there. Everybody has

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Speaker 1: their limit. They don't have unlimited money, even though they're billionaires.

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Speaker 1: So do you think that those three teams could get

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Speaker 2: I think I don't know if that's what they're waiting for.

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Speaker 2: The Learners have been talking about selling this team forever,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Rays are going to about to be

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Speaker 2: probably in the next couple of weeks here, the Twins

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Speaker 2: who else, the A's we'd like to be sold at

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: White Sox are going to be sold at some point

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Speaker 2: before twenty twenty nine, according to the agreement that was signed.

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Speaker 3: So there's teams.

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Speaker 2: People will buy these teams. You just have to find

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Speaker 2: the right people to buy the teams, because there's been

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Speaker 2: to mind of the Dodgers, right, he bought the team,

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Speaker 2: didn't have the money, but he's still you got to

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Speaker 2: deal the century. He still gets fair. He just still

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Speaker 2: gets all the parking, even though he doesn't own the team.

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Speaker 2: He worked out a deal to sell the team, but

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Speaker 2: he keeps all the parking, which is valuable as because there's.

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Speaker 3: No overhead on the parking.

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Speaker 2: You just collect money. That's great, Frank, call me out.

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Speaker 3: I want that deal.

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Speaker 1: Well, from what I recalled, it was a minute ago.

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Speaker 1: He was barring a ton of money. He was backed

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Speaker 1: I'll get out, like you're asking, but I want the

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Speaker 1: parking lots. I mean, didn't we just hear about this

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Speaker 1: with Stu Sternberg with the race where eventually the league's like, hey, dude,

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Speaker 1: it's been twenty plus years, it's not working. You got

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Speaker 1: to get us a new ballpark so we can move

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Speaker 1: on here. And now he's selling the team and still

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Speaker 1: gets to keep a little bit so he can prop

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Speaker 1: it off the back end. But anyway, getting back to

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Speaker 1: the point here, Nationals fans krats feel like the biggest

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Speaker 1: problem is that the team has sat out, but it's

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Speaker 1: going to be up to someone else to figure that out.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a fundamental just personnel issue with with ownership,

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Speaker 2: Like if ownership doesn't allow gms to go and spend money,

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Speaker 2: you can't do anything about that. And as good as

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Speaker 2: Mike Rizzo's been was like he probably you know, he's

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Speaker 2: the one that came out of this unscathed because they

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Speaker 2: won a World Series. But every year the organization, if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were always famous for trying to low ball managers.

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Speaker 1: All Right, here we go, Tyler Glass. Now back on

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Speaker 1: foul Territory. Good to see you, Tyler, Crazy. Last few

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Speaker 3: I'm good, first of all. And no, is there zero? Right?

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Speaker 3: Isn't this like a like a no hitter season or something? Yeah? No,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two thousand and five. Last time there was last

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Speaker 3: Wait, how many an average year? Like two to one? Two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not two per year, but two the last

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Speaker 2: You almost got one, but we'll take us through it.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of I'll always be like, yeah, just let

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Speaker 2: Was Doc like, hey, good job, you're done?

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Speaker 4: But it is what it is. The decision was made.

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Speaker 2: What you missed, you kind of got, you got scratched

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Speaker 3: I guess like there's been some starts where I'm.

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Speaker 3: You can kind of feel it. But that game I

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Speaker 3: We ended up winning, which is good. So that's that's

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Speaker 3: all I want.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what's the max you could go?

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Speaker 3: What's the what do you think you could pitches? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of starters would relate to that feeling.

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Speaker 2: So how much more sore are you then? Once you

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Speaker 4: It's kind of there's not like a formula to it,

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Speaker 3: I don't feel that sore.

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Speaker 4: But there starts previously where I'll be at like eighty

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Speaker 4: I also had like being scratched like nine days, so

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Speaker 4: I had a lot more time. But I feel totally normal,

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Speaker 4: probably more on like the better end of normal after

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: That's good. You mentioned the key, though, and you're no

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Speaker 2: hitter or almost no hitter that you guys won because

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Speaker 2: not long ago, not many games before that, you guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yamamoto, Harry was right there.

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Speaker 2: Halliday hits the home run and then all hell broke loose.

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Speaker 2: What were you guys thinking on the bench, because I

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Speaker 2: can't even imagine eight and two thirds you're thinking, hey, y'amamoto,

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Speaker 2: It was one of the craziest games I've ever seen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they actually that was when I had like the

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Speaker 3: But I wasn't actually in the dugout that game. From

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Speaker 4: Been pretty rough to sitting there for that, But yeah,

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Speaker 4: it just seemed like everything that lasting what went wrong

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: He he pitched really well, he looked really good. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 4: That's probably one of the worst ones I've seen or

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Speaker 3: I've never really been a part of anything like that.

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Speaker 2: So was it your fault? Did you move in your

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Speaker 2: it's the eighth inning, come on, let's go. So did

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Speaker 4: No, honestly, I was so I was back home. I

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Speaker 2: Are you a no talk guy? Are you a no

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone would come up and talk about

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Speaker 4: just keep it normal, you know, Like I think everyone's

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Speaker 3: Of what's going on. And I'm not a very superstitious person.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big pacer, Like I don't really like sitting down,

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00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 4: and I like to do like keep my heart rate

439
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 4: up a little bit.

440
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 3: I don't like to just sit there.

441
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 4: So I'm usually in the tunnel doing stuff like moving

442
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 4: around whatever it is I need to do, like there

443
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 4: a gun, whatever it is. So I'm kind of down

444
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 4: there talking to like coaches will come in, but I'm

445
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 4: not like pacing around in the dugout. It looks kind

446
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 4: of crazy with me walking back and forth, so I

447
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 4: just do it in the tunnel.

448
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we have two catchers on here, and

449
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: there is one person that can dictate whether it's a

450
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 2: no hitter or.

451
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 3: Not, you know what I mean, not from words from

452
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 3: I know it's of course, yeah.

453
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: Hitch calling Ben roor fans out there. He was with

454
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 2: the team for like one minute, like his uniform was

455
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 2: still drying, like yeah, and he goes out and almost

456
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: gets two no hitters in three games. How hard is

457
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: it to make that transition to a new catcher, And

458
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: how crazy is it that he came in and did

459
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: this for you guys in these three days.

460
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nuts.

461
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 4: I actually met him last year at a wedding and

462
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 4: he was with the Rays and I had some mutual

463
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 4: friends with him, and I got to know him relatively well,

464
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 4: like the night we talked.

465
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: And he's like super engaging.

466
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 4: I think he takes catching obviously very seriously, Like he's

467
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 4: always been known for his glove and his pitch calling,

468
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,479
Speaker 4: and for him to come in and like fit in,

469
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 4: he's very personable and like fits in.

470
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to like jump around teams and stuff

471
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 3: like that. But he came in kind of had the

472
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: feeling of like.

473
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 4: Oh, this guy's been here a while, he's very comfortable,

474
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 4: got to talking to him, came in, caught a really

475
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 4: good game for Yama, and then it was just not

476
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 4: we got on the same page quick. Like first inning,

477
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 4: we had some pitch calling, some setup stuff, and then

478
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: like as the game went on, we got into a

479
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 4: really good flow and we were on the same page

480
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 4: the whole time. How my stuff was like leaking, Like

481
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 4: early on, I was yanking four seams and sliders, so

482
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 4: we kind of reverted to like a sinker. He started

483
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 4: shifting int arieties with the sinker to try to get

484
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 4: me more online, and that kind of started getting my

485
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 4: slider back on. My four seemed sort of sucked the

486
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 4: whole game, but he kind of navigated me back into

487
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 4: his zone really well. And then last night she hand

488
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: pitched and had a no hitter into the sixth. I

489
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 4: guess that wasn't him, but like just.

490
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: In general, like with the no hitters and stuff, it's

491
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 3: kind of wild. But yeah, I really loved throwing him.

492
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: He was He was kind of awesome. M that's good.

493
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, what do you haven't talked to him since

494
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: he pitched in Tampa?

495
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: Didn't you pitch in Tampa.

496
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 2: Not that long ago?

497
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 3: No, I pitched what the series before I was in Tampa.

498
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 3: I didn't pitch that series, though, you pitch.

499
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 2: What was it like back in Tampa in hot your

500
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: old in your old stomping grounds, you didn't have to hitch?

501
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 3: I guess that's yeah.

502
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 4: It was the outdoor stadium in the summertime was crazy.

503
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 4: That was the hottest game.

504
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 3: I think any of us have played. But it was

505
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: cool to be back home.

506
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 4: And just to see everyone, like the staff and everyone

507
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: walking around like I hadn't been.

508
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: Back there in a long time. It gave me like

509
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 3: a tribute. That was really cool. I got to go back.

510
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: Home and sleep at home and see family and everything.

511
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 4: So it's a good, like little reset. I think anytime

512
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: you can go back and like sleep in your own

513
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: bed during the season, it kind of gives you this nice,

514
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: like at home feeling and you've just been gone for

515
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 4: so long.

516
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 3: But I enjoyed it. I like playing there or the

517
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 3: town itself. All right.

518
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: Every single freaking night we have some issue with a

519
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 2: PitchCom every night, yeah something. Have you ever had an

520
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: issue like you Darbis had the other day where he

521
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 2: was like pushing sinker. He was like over here pushing sinker,

522
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 2: pushing sinker, and Felix for me didn't hear it or something,

523
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: and he called curveball and so you was like, sure,

524
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: curveball and then gave up a ninger.

525
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 4: Now I've had the only thing I don't call my

526
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: own pitches or like, I don't have a like a

527
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 4: plate or whatever the thing is called. I just kind

528
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 4: of like will shake off with the catcher. The only

529
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: thing that sucks sometimes is the pitchclock when there's like

530
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: a guy on, and like I'll get a sign kind

531
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 4: of late and you're trying to shake back to a

532
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 4: sign you want and there's not enough time. And there's

533
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 4: been multiple times where I'm like at three seconds and

534
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 4: then like the last sign, I just.

535
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 3: Go all right whatever, and I'll just throw it.

536
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 4: And I'm like trying to get to like a slider,

537
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 4: let's say, and I've got two seconds left, and it's

538
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 4: like he just happens to be on sinker or fast

539
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 4: by and just.

540
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 3: Go find whatever, Like I'll get it out of the zone.

541
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: Or I'll put it where I want to try to

542
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: put it. But it happens kind of a lot. There's

543
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 4: a guy on.

544
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: You can step off, but there's no one on.

545
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 4: There's been some times with like three two two two

546
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 4: where it's like I can't. I just have to throw

547
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 4: whatever I can throw. It just sucks too, because like

548
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: hitters will get a time out in at bat and

549
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 4: I always figured we'd get like one or two PitchCom

550
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 4: things an inning, and like I think after a certain

551
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 4: amount of time, you can't step off and be like

552
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 4: my pitch COM's not working, or like it's not even

553
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: it's you can't get to the sign in time. I

554
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: wish we had like one of those an inning to

555
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 4: try to get on the same page because it's so

556
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: many times it's three two.

557
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 3: With no one on and you're like, all right, now

558
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: I gotta throw a pitch I don't want to throw,

559
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 3: so there.

560
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: Be a timeout, Like, is there is there a way

561
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: to like say, oh, well, this could cause an injury,

562
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: this could cause Obviously you could be like, oh I

563
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: don't want to throw that pitch. That could cause a run.

564
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: Majorly baseball doesn't care about that, But is there a

565
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: way that you could as a player's union bring it

566
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: up and say, hey, pitchers should have a timeout, which

567
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: I think they should, but you know, from a starting

568
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: pitcher it means more.

569
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've I think a lot of guys have talked

570
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 4: about that, like if a hitter gets the time out

571
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 4: in that bat, which I understand as well, Like I

572
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 4: think we should be able to have a timeout. And

573
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 4: there's a couple of different things I wish we could change,

574
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: like the pitch clock, for the warm up in between innings.

575
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 4: I wish it was a little bit longer, said, It

576
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: takes you a little bit of time to get out there.

577
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: You have time for like five or six warm ups.

578
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: And I think for me, especially like my first couple

579
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 4: of pitches are always slower in the inning just because

580
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I'm fully ready to go and

581
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 4: I'm like in the tunnel doing stuff. I know a

582
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: couple of guys have some issues with that, and like

583
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 4: I do think we should get like at least a

584
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 4: time out in that bat. And I think in the

585
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 4: in the whole scope of trying to save time for games,

586
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 4: like a little bit extra time and some timeouts, it

587
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 4: is probably gonna add like a minute two minutes to

588
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: the overall time.

589
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: Of the games. I don't know, I think it would

590
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: be kind of nice.

591
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: Sorry, Krats, I thought you had another one.

592
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: Uh.

593
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about uh a dude that

594
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: just returned to the team who seems to have an

595
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: impeccable record when he's playing for the Dodgers, and that's

596
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: Max Muncy. Do you see it and our guys joking

597
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: about it at this point because it's been going on

598
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: for a few years now.

599
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 4: When what are you saying, like when playing when we

600
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: have like a good team record. I I agrea the

601
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 4: guy like grinds out at bats, good ops, like he's good,

602
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 4: he's a I always remember too pitching against him, Like

603
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 4: he's a just a good hitter, like great on bass,

604
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: grinds out at bats.

605
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: Just yeah, I don't.

606
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 4: I don't know if the I'm sure they're correlated a

607
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 4: bit for sure, Like we've got a really good team.

608
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys on our team that I'm

609
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: sure if they play, our record is good.

610
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, like when he's in the lineup, it's a

611
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 4: noticeable difference in my opinion for sure.

612
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: Last one for you, this one popped up about a

613
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: week and a half ago. What did you think of

614
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: the Framber Valdez cross up situation?

615
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

616
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 4: That was that was pretty not really I don't think

617
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 4: I've ever seen anything like that.

618
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure have you guys seen it more?

619
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 4: I guess like maybe when you've played, was there more

620
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: of that or like no, I don't know, and I don't.

621
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: I also will say I don't know. I haven't talked

622
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: to him. I don't actually know if it was intentional,

623
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: like it potentially seems that way, but I don't have

624
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 4: like definitive answers on.

625
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: Any of that, so I don't know. But that was weird.

626
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: I'd never really seen anything like that.

627
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: Do you ever have you ever thought about doing that?

628
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: Have you ever been like so mad at a catcher

629
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: Let's say it was. I'm not saying you said it,

630
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying it was intentional in my opinion, Have you

631
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: ever been that mad at a catcher that you're like,

632
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: this is what I'm gonna do.

633
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: No, not at all.

634
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: I also think like my attitude towards ketchers just to

635
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: be different, like because when I pitch, I'm a big

636
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: like I'll throw some thirty eight foot curveballs, I'll spike

637
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 4: some fifty four foot fastball like I'm more like my

638
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: bad so I'm not really trying to It's hard enough

639
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: catching me. I don't think I've ever gotten that at

640
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 4: a catcher like any No, not really. I think there's

641
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 4: been times I still would do anything like you get

642
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: mad at an umpire. Used to see like dudes call

643
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: curveball or whatever, like the catcher will drop down, the

644
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: heater will be like a heater up at the at

645
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: the umpire that makes more sense to me. Still not

646
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: gonna do it, don't like it, but like that type

647
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 4: of thing makes more sense to me than doing it

648
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: to your catcher, for sure.

649
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: I no, I've never wanted to do that.

650
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: Ever, you summed it up and you said you would

651
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: automatically be hey, I'm bad, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm

652
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: sure you've crossed a guy up somewhere along the way.

653
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: And.

654
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: Isn't to turn your back on the guy and walk

655
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: walk off the back of the mount. It's usually hey,

656
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: are you okay? That's what I generally what most pitchers

657
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: do is hey are you okay? Not turn your back

658
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: and walk away.

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00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a rough one, especially being a catcher, Like

660
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff going on.

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Speaker 3: It's a hard exposition.

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Speaker 2: And when I was on the rays with you and

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Speaker 2: Snell talk about your blocking practice, you too, Yeah, yard

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Speaker 2: darts up there and just like look around like probably

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Speaker 2: gonna do it again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I'm good for like five a game. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: Like if I'm trying to tunnel a low heater with

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00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: a curve ball, it's like that's gonna be a in

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Speaker 3: front of the like on the dirt type of bounce.

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Speaker 4: Situation like on the plate, so it's not gonna Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's it's tough. I can only imagine trying to catch

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Speaker 4: me and like, I'm not exactly Greg Mannix out there,

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00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: so it's our hearty hard enough and then having to

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Speaker 4: worry about if I'm gonna like intentionally throw a ball

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Speaker 4: at you.

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Speaker 3: That might be kind of tough to handle.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Snyder made it easy. Kyle Snyder was just like, Oh,

678
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: you don't need to go on the edges, you just

679
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: stay right down the middle. I was like, I was like,

680
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: it definitely worked.

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00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: But you're you're getting you're getting forty.

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00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Eight foot curveballs from Snell as he's calling like different

683
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: pitches on different locations and times, and you're getting a

684
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: ball in the neck. And then they're bringing in young

685
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Speaker 2: Jose Alvarado Diego Castillo out of the bullpen and then

686
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: Drake throwing that like whatever, that lefty, right handed change

687
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Speaker 2: up ball. So yeah, there was some There are some

688
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Speaker 2: dudes slinging some rocks up there.

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Speaker 3: For sure. Yeah, that was a wild year. That was

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Speaker 3: one of the craziest bullpens I've ever seen.

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Speaker 4: And right Chaz the slider King was on that team,

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00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: right oh yeah, yeah, Chazz, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We had some crazy arm angles on that year.

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Speaker 1: It was not yes, young Jose Alvarado. That was scary

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Speaker 1: even to watch as a fan.

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Speaker 3: That was the.

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Speaker 2: Most miserable, miserable four pitches I ever caught, because it

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Speaker 2: was four fans bolts and they all went different directions.

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Speaker 2: Thank goodness, it was ball four and Kevin Cash came

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Speaker 2: walking out.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Well, Tyler, good to see man, good to

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Speaker 1: catch up. Keep doing your thing. We'll catch you soon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thanks guys,