1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: of Mini Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: and today on the show Lips the lovely luscious lips 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: of living and extinct animals. Who has the best pout 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: the most perfect kissable lips, from smoochable dinosaurs to some 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: of the toughest lips on the planet, or letting these 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: critters get lippy with us? Discover this more as we 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: answer the angel question if you have a real long tongue, 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: pretty keep it. Joining me today to rate these lips 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: is producer at iHeartRadio and friend of the show, co 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: host of Ethnically Ambiguous, Anna Hosy. 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: Welcome, Hi, thank you for having me Always always fun. 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: I am so so excited for this one because there's 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: big news. Anna. I don't know if you've heard about this. 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: The t rex. 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: You can kiss t rex. It's it's canon, now, scientifically canon. 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna need you to convince me on this one. 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you won't die. I'm just saying that they. 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: Have all. 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Anced the most dangerous kiss. So our understanding of how 21 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: dinosaurs look like has changed. Over the years, we once 22 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: thought they were scaly, brown or green kind of gaunt creatures. 23 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: They are sometimes scaly. We still think that a lot 24 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: of them were sort of had tough, leathery skin, but 25 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: we also think that they may have been feathery or 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: colorful and maybe not as gaunt as they were once depicted. 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: This habit of reconstructing an animal from fossil records and 28 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: not including enough fat, muscle, or other soft tissue masks 29 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: is called shrink wrapping, like you've seen you've seen Jurassic Park. 30 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where most of my dinosaur knowledge comes from. 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: Really, that in Land Before Time. 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, both very scientifically accurate movies. Land Before Time. You 33 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: know what, Actually I feel like in Land Before Time 34 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: the dinosaurs are They've got a certain heft to them 35 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: and a certain chubbiness that I appreciate. 36 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: They're like children. They're like young kids who haven't lost 37 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: their baby weight yet exactly. 38 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: They are cute and I like that. I mean, I 39 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: do think that it is an interesting depiction of dinosaurs 40 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: visually now, of course, like they probably couldn't talk, they 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: probably couldn't go on adventures together among many different species. 42 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: I would love if that were the case, but yeah, 43 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: they might have been more plump than we sort of 44 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: envisioned them. Like in Jurassic Park, t Rex is sort 45 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: of this like very angular, very gaunt creature, very scary looking, 46 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: and its teeth kind of jet out of it, Like 47 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: even when its mouth is closed, you can still see 48 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: it's teeth jetting out of it. And of course there's 49 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: not a feather to be seen in any of the 50 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: Jurassic parks. I don't believe so, right, I haven't actually 51 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: seen the most recent Jurassic parks, but they didn't put 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: any feathers in there, did they? 53 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: I mean I've seen them all, even the ones that 55 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: get like the very bad ratings from the most recent franchises, and. 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no feathers. 57 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: No feathers. That probably would have made them better. I 58 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: think it would have been very important plot points. You know, 59 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: Feathery dinosaurs could have been a thing. You could have 60 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: been bold and done feathery dinosaurs. But they didn't, and 61 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: that's why they missed out on an Oscar. 62 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I always say, as well. 63 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: More feathers, Yeah, more feathers. 64 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it, like recent Oscar winners what 65 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: do they all have in common? Feathers? So yeah, often 66 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: t rex is depicted with these menacing teeth, similar to 67 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: like the crocodile, where you know, when the crocodile's mouth 68 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: is closed, you can still see its teeth jutting out. 69 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: Wow, t rexes are kind of ugly. 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: It almost looks like they have hair on them, But 71 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: I think that's just texture, right. 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: I think that's just texture. I don't know about the 73 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: evidence for t rexes having like it wouldn't be hair, 74 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: it would be like fine feathery down. Potentially there may 75 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: have been some species of t rex like dinosaurs, large 76 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: dinosaurs that had some sort of like basically feathery coating, 77 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: maybe for warmth, and certainly perhaps their offspring had some 78 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: downy fluff on them as well. Maybe when they're younger, 79 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: when they have less body fat, that might have been useful. 80 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know if it is a really 81 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: settled thing about whether adult t rexes had any kind 82 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: of feathers or not. But they do think that they 83 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: had lips, which means that technically they could wear lipstick, 84 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: which I think. You know, you said they're ugly, but 85 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: I feel like you put a little bit of lipstick 86 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: on a little bit of highlighter and you know that's 87 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of rouge. Maybe some falsies. Then you're 88 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, look you're working resulting. Yeah, high cheek bones, 89 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: they've got the bone structure. 90 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: But it's also unfortunate they have to, you know, sort 92 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: of succumb to like societal beauty standards in order to 93 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: be considered beautiful. It's actually quite sad. 94 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: I think what we're seeing here. 95 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: I think the unrealistic standards for t rexes is a 96 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: shame because I think that they are beautiful even when 97 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: they aren't wearing false eyelashes, and like, you know, I 98 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: think that there should be a whole revamp of the 99 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: whole dinosaur Instagram culture. 100 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I will say, you know, looking at these photos, 101 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: it's interesting that they have lips. But it's like something 102 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: I would have never really thought about, Like I would 103 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 2: just assume the area around their their mouth where it opens. 104 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: Is their lips. 105 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So is like. 106 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: What different differentiates that sort of I guess lip area 107 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: from the rest of their I guess exoskeleton, if you will, 108 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: Like what made them be like, no, no, they are lips. 109 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: That's a really good question. I mean, lips are sort 110 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: of a they like. The interesting thing with lips, right, 111 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: is that it is something that in humans and some 112 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: other animals are malleable, right, Like, our lips have this 113 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: fine muscle control and we can move them in this way. 114 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: But this that doesn't have to be the case. There 115 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: are plenty of animal that have lips but do not 116 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: have that kind of fine muscle control over them. I 117 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: think that the sort of general definition of lips is 118 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: just like a fleshy projection that covers the teeth. I 119 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: don't know if it needs to be much more than that. 120 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 121 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: The way that researchers determined that t rex may have 122 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: had these lips covering their teeth is that they actually 123 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: took a tooth from a close relative of the t rex, 124 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: this Plotosaurus, another giant frightening predator that looks very similar 125 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: to the t rex, and they bisected the tooth and 126 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: examined the enamel from the fossil and found that it 127 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: had shockingly little wear and tear. So enamel, when exposed 128 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: to the elements or to coffee, can dissolve and wear overtime, 129 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: and so crocodiles and alligators, the modern day examples of 130 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: an animal who don't got lips and have their teeth 131 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: all sticky out cope with this by replacing their teeth. 132 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: Often they go through thousands of teeth over their lifetime. 133 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: And that's a lot of money from the tooth fairy. 134 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of money. And I did not 135 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: know they were losing teeth left and right. 136 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: They yeah, it's it's a lot of teeth that they 137 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: go through. But t rex teeth likely took too long 138 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: to grow to be so easily replaceable. That, plus the 139 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: evidence from the t rex's close relative indicates to scientists 140 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: that t rex could have had lips covering their teeth, 141 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: which would have served the purpose of protecting their teeth 142 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: from the elements. I mean, it's an interesting thing, right, 143 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: like why do we have lips? One of the reasons, 144 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: perhaps the key reason originally is that it helped protect 145 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: our teeth. 146 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I thought it was for kissing. 147 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: Grow up anna geez, or for talking. 148 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: Don't lips do us the tongue as well? But I 149 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: guess like lips help enunciate certain words. 150 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: But absolutely, they absolutely do they help us talk. They 151 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: help us enunciate kissing, all of these sort of social things. 152 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: But we didn't originally evolve lips to talk. Perhaps lips 153 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: did help, but like we started to evolve much more 154 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: flexible lips in order to be able to have more 155 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: unique vocalizations, right like our primate ancestors, But you know, 156 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: using our lips to really shape sound and stuff. That 157 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: came quite a bit later in our evolutionary history. Okay, 158 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, for the t rex that probably the lips 159 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: that they had were unlikely to be as poudy and 160 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: flexible as human lips are. It was probably just sort 161 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: of a tough, sort of fleshy protuberance that as part 162 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: of their face, probably quite leather that covered their teeth 163 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: and protected them from the disintegration of their enamel when 164 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: exposed to the elements. So, I looking honestly at the 165 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: illustration of te rex with lips versus without lips, I 166 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: think with lips it looks like a more serious animal 167 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: for some reason. Without lips with its teeth kind of 168 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: sticking out to me, now that looks goofy hmm. 169 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like the classic look is teeth out. 170 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like it looks now that I 171 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: see them with the lips on, it looks wrong. Without 172 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: the lips it looks silly. 173 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: It looks like they don't have teeth like them. That 174 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: be like like they lost all their teeth basically, is 175 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: what it looks like with the lips on. Yeah, lips 176 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 2: on just looks weird. 177 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: Huh No for me, like the lips on makes sense 178 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: to me, And with the with the teeth sticking out 179 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: the teeth, it makes me feel It makes me think 180 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: this has sort of like an overbite, and I'm just 181 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: imagining it with braces on and being kind of silly looking. 182 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know, because like 183 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: with the with the lips over it, there's a mystery 184 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: to it, right, like how many teeth do you have? 185 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's being coys, it's a it's a 186 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: mystery until I'm in that mouth getting eaten. To me, 187 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: that's intimidating, Okay. 188 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: I you know, personally, I need to see the teeth 189 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: before I get scared, because I'm like, well, what are 190 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: we working with here? You might just be a nice guy, right, 191 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: Teeth always is like if you're showing teeth, oh I'm 192 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: out of here. Yeah, I'm not interested in seeing your teeth. Okay, 193 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: then I know you mean business. 194 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: This is how we know you wouldn't make a good dentist, 195 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: because as soon as someone comes in your office and 196 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: they show you their teeth, it's like, well, I don't 197 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: want to. 198 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: See your teeth. I'm out of there. 199 00:11:54,760 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: You're out of there, right, So Anna, earlier, we were 200 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: talking about how lips are not just used for protecting teeth. 201 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: They can also be flexible and used to shape sounds. 202 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: And so I want to talk about the beluga whales. 203 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: So are you familiar with belugas? Uh? 204 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: Yes, I am. 205 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: Uh you sound very like it sounds like your best 206 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: friend is like a beluga you were. 207 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: You kid. I mean, they're they're just they're very viral animals. 208 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: I've come across a beluga in my day. 209 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: You know you've dealt with a beluga, believe me. 210 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: I mean like they're out here. People will be like, 211 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: look at this beluga whale playing soccer and you're like, whoa, 212 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: you know, they got like the perfect little head that's 213 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: like I'm here to play. 214 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 215 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, sound like fun guys. 216 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: They are fun guys. They're actually very interesting because they 217 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: are of the whales sort of the most expressive and 218 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: like human like whale. One reason is that their neck 219 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: can turn, so they can turn their neck and actually 220 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: look at you in a way that is unusual, Yeah, 221 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: unusual for whales. They also have highly flexible lips, so 222 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: their facial expressions I think are a little more like 223 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: uncannily maybe not exactly human, but they are more human likes. 224 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: So they actually have that curve, Yeah, that little sort 225 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: of like lip curve that makes them being like, oh why, Yeah, 226 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: they definitely really yeah, they definitely have the why kind 227 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: of look. They are very cute, very kind of goofy looking, 228 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: but quite intelligent. So they use those highly flexible lips 229 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: on their face to suck in prey, which is unlike 230 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: both to the whales. So they kind of use their 231 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: lips as a vacuum, which is really interesting. Oh really 232 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: like yep, yep, they can suck and suck their prayer writeing. Uh, 233 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: just like they're eating spaghetti. Uh. They also use their 234 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: lips in social ways, so we were earlier, we were 235 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: talking about kissing. 236 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 237 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: They will make mouth to mouth contact with other Belugas 238 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: in a friendly gesture. Now this doesn't necessarily connote any 239 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: kind of like romantic intention. It is just sort of 240 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: a friendly like almost like a handshake, but with. 241 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: Lips, right, they're kind of like, oh exactly, They're they're 242 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: very European tree European, you know, like hello, and just 243 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: like greeting you with a little little kiss, which, trust me, 244 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: is taking me a little bit to get used to. 245 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: Uh so with all that kiss and you're doing over 246 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: there with. 247 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: All the belugas I have to kiss in Europe so 248 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: many so. But one of the reasons I wanted to 249 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: talk about belugas is they have a secret set of lips. 250 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: They have phone located below their blowhole in their air 251 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: passage so you cannot really see these from the outside. 252 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: These lips are located next to the beluga's flexible melon. 253 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,119 Speaker 1: So the melon is this fatty ball in their forehead 254 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: that the beluga can change the shape of using muscles, 255 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: which can change the shape of sounds that the beluga makes. 256 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: So you know how that beluga has that kind of 257 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: like lumpy, fatty forehead. It looks cute, it looks squishy. 258 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: It is cute and squishy, and then these phonic lips 259 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: that are in its air passage way can kind of 260 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: work similar to human lips and shape the sound that 261 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: the beluga makes, and in fact, it is so good 262 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: at doing this that it can somewhat mimic human sound. 263 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: And it is so there is this really wild story 264 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: from the seventies about a beluga oil that seemed to 265 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: be able to mimic human speech. Okay, as most animal 266 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: stories start off, it happened with a Navy kidnapping. So 267 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies, the navies, the Navy kidnapped belugas 268 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: from the Arctic. 269 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: Uh. 270 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: Some were so young that they spent most of their 271 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: life in the Navy's care, which was the case for 272 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: a calf named Knock. So the Navy had this whole 273 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: like pipe dream where they were training Belugas for surveillance. 274 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: So they kidnapped a bit I do recall this. Yeah, 275 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: so they like kidnapped a bunch of like baby Belugas 276 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: and then we're training them for military purposes. I think 277 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: belugas are still used by various countries for military usage, which. 278 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: For me is like a Russian thing. 279 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly for me as a pacifist and someone 280 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: who cares for belugas, not a big fan. But Knock 281 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: spent so much time with trainers that he may have 282 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: started to see them as his family. There is a 283 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: recording made of Knock seemingly trying to mimic human speech. 284 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: So there are no real words being spoken, just a 285 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: mimicry of the general sound and cadence of a human 286 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: conversation happening. So I'm gonna play this for you, Okay, 287 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: here is the sound of Knock the beluga seemingly mimicking 288 00:17:35,320 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: human speech. So why do you think Anna does that 289 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: sound like a person? Isn't that crazy? Yeah? 290 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: Crazy? 291 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? So there's no words there, right, but his cadence, 292 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 1: frequency and patterns seem to match human speech. And they 293 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: actually sort of tried to break it down and like 294 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: break down the timing of it and make sure that 295 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: it's not just that we kind of think it sounds 296 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: like human speech, but that it's the frequency, these patterns 297 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: that it has certain like vocal patterns that are very 298 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: similar to human speech. So obviously it's really hard with 299 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: like a sample size of one traumatized beluga to like 300 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: really do a study of like, is this bluga actually 301 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: trying to mimic human sounds? It's it's hard to know, 302 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it's such a it is a 303 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: really strange sound. I don't know how we could study 304 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: this without being highly unethical, because then you would what 305 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: would you do, like kidnap war baby whales, Like I 306 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't want that to happen. 307 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: So then put a room together and be like talk. Yeah. 308 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: And so it seems like the Navy gave this beluga. 309 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: I mean, if this is really this beluga trying to 310 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: mimic human speech, maybe this beluga basically had like Stockholm syndrome, 311 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: identified with its captors, loved its human captors. In fact, 312 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: there's evidence of this. Uh Knock was once released from 313 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: captivity by animal rights activists and he swam outside for 314 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: a bit, but then just of his own volition like 315 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: returned to his captors because he just you know, it's 316 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: like his human family. He's never known anything else. He's 317 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: never like gotten the experience of living with other belugas. 318 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: So the I don't know the fact that he may 319 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: have been trying to mimic the sound of his captors 320 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: is like, this is a really disturbing story to me 321 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: because it's like he's trying to communicate with people who 322 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: he can never really communicate with. 323 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: No, and he's trying to be like, eh, did I go. 324 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: They didn't mind if I get out of here? Yeah, 325 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: no big deal, I'll stay. I'll stay. But I just yeah, 326 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: I'm a family of friends. Yeah, they're like shut up, bluga, but. 327 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, imagine if you were kidnapped by aliens and 328 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: they are making sounds, right, like weird sounds, and so 329 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: you try to like mimic the sounds that the aliens 330 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: are making to try to communicate with them, and they're 331 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: just like, wow, look at that cute human. I'm sure 332 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: that they don't crave other human interaction anyways. 333 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: I mean. 334 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 2: I have like no, I mean, it's just so sad 335 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: when it's what it's put trade and like a lie 336 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: where you're like the Buluca's like alp lp, Like it's 337 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: just so sad. 338 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's sad, and it's like haunting 339 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: kind of. It's like seems like he's like desperate to 340 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: bridge this communication. 341 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: Yes, but he's yeah, it's like why is he Why 342 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: is he trying to talk to us? Probably because he's 343 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: trying to be like, get me the heck out of here. 344 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: I'm not who you think I am. 345 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I almost think it's something almost sadder, like, 346 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't think he can even imagine a life outside 347 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: of captivity. I think he's just desperate for communication, because 348 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: Blucas can communicate with each other and understand each other, 349 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: right like. They it's not it's a you know, it's 350 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: not like a human language, right like where words have 351 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: specific meanings. But Wales often have like calls that kind 352 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: of identify themselves, and they can certainly like they can 353 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: understand sort of the calls and the meaning of these calls. 354 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: And so for this very intelligent creature to be in 355 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: this situation where it's like all it's ever known is humans. 356 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: And sure there were other belugas, like maybe one other 357 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: beluga that it would interact with, but it's another captive Belugas. 358 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: So neither of them have any experience with beluga culture. 359 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: Because I feel like animals do have culture. They can 360 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: teach and pass on knowledge to each other, and so 361 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: it's it's a form of culture, and so they don't 362 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: have any of that. And so with Nak, he's just 363 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: trying to communicate to the only family that he's ever known. 364 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: But he can never he can never fully make himself 365 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: understood or understand what the people are saying. It's really tragic. 366 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: That's so sad. 367 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: It's really sad. Well boy, Okay, so a little upper 368 00:22:54,440 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: here is talking about camels getting lip fillers, So. 369 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: Okay, go on, I'm intrigued. 370 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: So camel's camel lips are really interesting. They have three 371 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: lips sort of, so they have this flexible lower lip 372 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: and a cleft upper lip. So I don't know, I 373 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: feel like it's it's kind of a technicality of them 374 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: having sort of three lips. But yeah, they have the 375 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: lower lip this upper lip, and they're highly flexible. But 376 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: they are also very thick and strong, and they use 377 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: this to eat anything from thorny bushes to cactuses, Like 378 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: camel can literally chow down on a cactus like it's 379 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: no problem. 380 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I have a very clear vision 381 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: of camel's chewing their lives. Yes, I'm sorry for all 382 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: the people who have mesophonia, this is not the episode 383 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: for you now. 384 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: I also am sorry that nobody got to see you 385 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: doing the camel chew because it. 386 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: Wasn't like that. 387 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: It is very much like that, and there's there's some 388 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: like side to side job motion to. 389 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: Like yeah wow wow, and you're like, wow, it is 390 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: that camel is chewing. 391 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And if you don't have missophonia, the sort 392 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: of high displeasure at hearing mouth sounds. You can check 393 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: out videos of camels eating cactuses and it's not gory 394 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: or anything because they're fine. Inside the camel mouth, they have, uh, 395 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: these conical papillae. So papilla are these rigid bumps, uh. 396 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: And these bumps actually protect their mouth from thorns by 397 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: redirecting the thorns so that they're pointing down in parallel 398 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: to the camel's uh esophagus. So like uh, like if 399 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: you have imagine you have like a bunch of like 400 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, thorns or sticks or something, and if you 401 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: just like sort of push them on a smooth surface, 402 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: they can go in various directions. But if you push 403 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: them on a grooved surface, they're going to go in 404 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: the direction of the grooves. And that's how the camel's 405 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: mouth works and so that it can swallow these thorns 406 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: and have them go down safely down their esophagus. I 407 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: don't recommend trying this as a human. It's not gonna 408 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: work out for you. In fact, camel lips are so 409 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: important for their ability to eat. That thick lips are 410 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: a sign of good breeding, like good health and a 411 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: camel in domesticated camels, which is so important that some 412 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: camel breeders will inject their camel's lips with botox to 413 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: make their lips look bigger. So injecting botox relaxes the 414 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: muscles compressing the lips, and so it makes their lips 415 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: much powdier. And so this is the huge juicing scandal 416 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: and camel contests. You're injecting your camel's lips with botox 417 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: when you're doing like show camels. It's a big scandal 418 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: if someone's found to be doing bowts into their camel's 419 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: lips to make their camel lips seem bigger. 420 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm looking at photos of inside a camel's mouth. Weird, 421 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: I probably gonna say about that. Weird, an odd thing 422 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: to look at. 423 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's you know, camels are really interesting. We 424 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: have a whole episode actually on camels that we did. 425 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: But like, uh, they when you get up close to 426 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: the camel though more and more strange they seem, I think, 427 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: is But like the inside of the mouth is weird. 428 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: The teeth are big and strange, the chewing, the heavy eyelids. 429 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: They are just, I mean, honestly runway ready animals. 430 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: That's interesting you say it that way, runway ready. 431 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: Uh, I don't. I don't know if I like, I mean, 432 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 2: I'm glad they could eat anything, but like, I don't know, 433 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: I don't know about any of this. 434 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 1: You don't know about the whole cactus chewing thing. It 435 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: is it is an unpl like I'll put it this way. 436 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: It's a bit of an unpleasant experience to watch them 437 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: eating a cactus, just because it looks like it should 438 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: be painful. Yeah, it does not look like a good situation. Uh, 439 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: and so yeah, I mean, but they're fine, which blows 440 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: my mind. It does not look like something you should 441 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: be able to chew and eat with ease. Like obviously 442 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: you can eat cactus right like in like people eat cactus, 443 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: but we get rid of the thorns. We take the 444 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: thorns off. That's a very important part of eating the cactus. Like, 445 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: but eating the cactus with thorns and the sound it's 446 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: making as these thorns are getting crunched and swallowed is 447 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: it's something. It's a type of ASMR I guess. 448 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: I get literally, I guess because I have no idea, 449 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: but yeah, just see it seems so rough. 450 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's but they're fine with it. I think 451 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: they're probably less fine with getting botox injections into their lips. 452 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: You know. Again, we were talking earlier about unrealistic beauty 453 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: standards for dinosaurs, and I feel like camels are now 454 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: suffering from sort of the Instagram culture of like, hey, 455 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: everyone's got to have certain type of lips, certain type 456 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: of look. Just leave those camels alone. 457 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, unless you know what, I don't want to 458 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 3: judge them. 459 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: You know, if the camels themselves wanted to get botox injections, 460 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: I'd be fine with that. It's the fact that camel 461 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: breeders are giving them the botox injections. If a camel, 462 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: if a self empowered camel walks into like the plastic 463 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: surgeon's office, it's like, give me an extra hump and 464 00:28:53,880 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: some lip pillars, like a hump hump modification. I'm cool 465 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: with that. If camels want to do whatever they want 466 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: with their bodies. But but it's the camel breeders that 467 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: are doing or like telling the camels like, hey, your 468 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: lips aren't good enough. We gotta we gotta do some 469 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: work on you. That's what bothers me. 470 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: That is incredibly sad. 471 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I'm there's always a new 472 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: at like a new sort of like very specific controversy 473 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: based on a very specific sort of hobbyist thing, like 474 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: camel competitions that I I love learning about incredible controversies 475 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: for a type of competition that I didn't even really understand. 476 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 3: Before camel competitions. 477 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I mean it makes sense. I 478 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: think that we sort of show off and compete every 479 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: animal we've domesticated, right, Like I think there are cats shows, 480 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: right like you know there's dog shows, but I think 481 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: there's also like catch, which I can't imagine. The cats 482 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: are very compliant with being shown at a cat show. 483 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: No, I feel like a cat show is like the 484 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: most highly trained cats you'll ever see you Because. 485 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: What I had a cat named Mittens, and if I 486 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: tried to take her to a cat show, everyone would 487 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: be missing at least one layer of skin shredded. 488 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: If I took my cat to a cat show, I 489 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: don't think i'd have a cat anymore. 490 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: I think he'd run away. 491 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you'd have a face anymore. No, No, 492 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: So now we are going to talk about another animal 493 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: with fantastic lips. This is the tubelipped nectar bat. It 494 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: is a bat found in Ecuador with an incredible pair 495 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: of lips and a tongue that just goes on for days. 496 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: So this is a small bat which has the longest 497 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: tongue to body ratio of any mammal, with a three 498 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: inch or eight point five centimeters tongue that is one 499 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: and a half times the length of its body. So 500 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: where do you think you put a tongue this long 501 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: in an animal? Right? Like cause like its head, it's 502 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: pretty small. Like where does this tongue go? Oh? 503 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: Boy, that is a good question. Where is there like 504 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: a like a sort of like almost like a fruit 505 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: roll up, Like it just goes, you know, like it 506 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: just rolls back up and then come like it almost 507 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: unrolls when I eat it. 508 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 1: I love that. I wish that were the case. 509 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: Uh. 510 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: It is actually located in its thorax, so the tongue 511 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: recoils all the way back into its thorax to accommodate 512 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: its length. It'd be like if our tongue started in 513 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: our chest. Uh, And then we could sort of use. 514 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: There's this hyoid bone that it uses to be able 515 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: to eject the tongue out of its out of its chest, 516 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: up it's esavagus, and then finally out of its mouth. 517 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: There might be some sort of tongue compression that's happening. 518 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: It's not exactly like a fruit roll up, but there 519 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: might be some sort of tongue compression happening inside of 520 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: its body. But yeah, it's because it's it has the 521 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: tongue that starts like in its chest, which is you 522 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: know that it's that's a quite quite a French kisser. 523 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: I gotta say, Wow, I don't even understand. 524 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna think too much about 525 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: what i just said. But yeah, so it uh eats 526 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: pullen and insects, but it also uses this incredible tongue 527 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: to sip nectar. So the tongue has these long papillae. 528 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: We talked about papilli earlier. So papilla are just like 529 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: any kind of like bump fleshy protrusion, and it has 530 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: these long papillae that act as a mop for the nectar. So, uh, 531 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: the the these papillai will like dip into the nectar 532 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: and kind of help using sort of the liquid tension 533 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: and stuff in a surface area will help sop up 534 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: the water. So the reason I'm talking about this bat 535 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: on a lip themed podcast is that the or lip 536 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: themed episode We're not always going to talk about lips 537 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: on this podcast, is that the lower jaw has lips 538 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: that extend far past it, thus giving it the name 539 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: the tube lipped nectar bat. Like, if you look at 540 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 1: an image of this guy, it's got these lower lips 541 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: that just jet way out. 542 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: Okay, yuh weird, that's a weird one he's got. 543 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: You know, like the thing that car tunes do where 544 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: they like uh strum their lower lip with their finger 545 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: or something to make that like noise. This guy could 546 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: do that so good. 547 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: He this is an underbite if I've ever seen one. 548 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: It's an underlip, which is something I've never seen before 549 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: because like it's jaws in the right place, but its 550 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: lip goes right. It's just it's like the lip is 551 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: trying to leave the bat or. 552 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 2: I can't I can't even explain why I'm looking at 553 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: He's just just. 554 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: Like, hey, yeah, he does. Guy. 555 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: I feel like that's how he would talk because well, 556 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 2: you'd be like. 557 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: A little bit of a he's got a little bit 558 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: of a what. 559 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got like a Marlin, yes, island sort of 560 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 2: like a Marlin. 561 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 3: What's going on? 562 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: Like I assume he would talk like that, like you'd 563 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: be like me. 564 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: Let me get this real quick. And then this very 565 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: long tongue. Yeah, No, he's definitely a Marlon Brando bat. 566 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: And so that's. 567 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: Lower this if you did a side by side. 568 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: Right, I'm gonna google marw. 569 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: You gotta google Marlon Brando. Godfather though, because Godfather he 570 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 2: does actually have that's what I'm saying. 571 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: He does like when he's young, he does have quite 572 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: plump lips. Actually Father Godfather. Yeah no, he's the lower 573 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: lip of the Godfather. Like look what they Look what 574 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: they've done my boy? 575 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: Maybe by. 576 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a yeah. So this bat definitely Marlon Brando vibes. 577 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: And that lower lip that is sort of this tube 578 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: like projection helps catch the nectar as the tongue SOPs 579 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: it up and retracts. So it's got this of like 580 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: the tongue comes in and there's basically this lip that's 581 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: acting like a cup to help catch the nectar. And 582 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: then it is able to drink this nectar, and it 583 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: is able to pollinate highly specialized flowers with very deep 584 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: pitchers containing nectar. So only this bat with its really 585 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: long tongue and weird lip can reach the nectar and 586 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 1: soap it up, can reach the nectar and drink it up. 587 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: And so as it's doing this, the pollen of the 588 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: flower dusts its head and will allow it to go 589 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: and pollinate other flowers of the same species. So it's 590 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: this really interesting example of coevolution of this bat and 591 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: this flower where only this bat can reach the nectar 592 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: of the flower, and the flower has evolved for that 593 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: to happen so that this bat becomes the personal corrier 594 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: of the flowers pollen and takes that to other flower species. 595 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a I don't know, what 596 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: would you call someone who like facilitates romance between two people, 597 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: Like a matchmaker, Yeah, a matchmaker, but then you're but 598 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: it's a match maker, a romance, a romance. Heer, I 599 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 1: like that I made that up. It's a good word though, 600 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: But it's sort of more like if you had to 601 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: go between for someone to like collect someone's reproductive genetic 602 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: material and then bring it to you. So, I don't 603 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: know what you'd call that person a romance heer, a. 604 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: Thief, a thief if he's stealing genetic material, I don't know, 605 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: a romance her, or like a sperm courrier. Yeah, like 606 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: a yeah, I don't know, like a genetic I gotta 607 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: think of. 608 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: A genetic genes. Well, uh yeah, there's surprisingly another animal 609 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: called a tubelip, but this is the tubelipped rass. So 610 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 1: the tubelipped rass is a small, oblong, purple and yellow 611 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: fish that has a set of glossy, well hydrated, luscious lips. 612 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, this fish, they are this fish has had Here's 613 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 2: the thing. This fish has had injectables. 614 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, look, I I'm not gonna say it 615 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: hasn't like, because I just learned that camels get lip injections, 616 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: so why not a fish. So this is found in 617 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: This fish is pouting at me. It's pouting. It's it's 618 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: a pout. It's like a it's what I mean, maybe 619 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: it's still popular. But what used to be very popular 620 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: to do in photos where you stick your lips out, 621 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: sort of the duck face kind of thing. But this 622 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: fish is doing it. It's back in two thousand and 623 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: six doing serious duckface. So it is found in the 624 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: Indian Ocean and Western Pacific. And the tube blipped rass 625 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: uses its poudy lips to eat dangerous stinging coral. So 626 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: the coral they eat is covered in stinging cells. So 627 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: the tublip rass uses these instagrammable lips that are covered 628 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: in mucus with layered membranes, and they press their lips 629 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: against the coral in a kiss and then suck the 630 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 1: flesh of the coral up. So you know, they're also 631 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: good kissers, these fish. 632 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see that. 633 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: It's just I mean, come on, So researchers believe that 634 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: the unique structure of the lips and the high amount 635 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: of mucus helps protect the fish from the coral stinging cells. So, 636 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, just these glossy, mucusy lips that they press 637 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: onto the coral and then suck the flesh off of 638 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: the coral. I don't know what to tell you. These 639 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: fish are sort of flirtatious with this coral while also 640 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: eating it. 641 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: There is such a pout going on here. Yes, I 642 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 2: don't even know what to think. 643 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's overdoing it a little, but you know 644 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: what I mean? 645 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 3: Sure. 646 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, are you coming for this poor fish? 647 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying I'm not like these other 648 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: fish that pout to get whatever they want from stinging coral. 649 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: Is all I'm saying. I'm not like the other fish. 650 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 3: Wow, you've changed. 651 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 1: I've become so judgmental of fish's lifestyle choices. 652 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 3: I'm seeing that now. 653 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: Well, Anna, before we go, we gotta play a little 654 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: game called the Mystery Animal Sound game. Guess who's squawking? 655 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: Every week I play a mystery animal sound, and you 656 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: the listener, and you the guests, try to guess who 657 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: is making that sound. Last week's mystery animal sound. Hint, 658 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 1: if you've got happy feet, this is not a sound 659 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: you want to hear. So Anna, can you guess who 660 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: was making that sound? 661 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 2: Again? 662 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: The hint is, if you've got happy feet, this is 663 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: not a sound you want to hear. 664 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 3: Is that an orca? 665 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: Oh that's a really interesting guess, very very close. Congratulations 666 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: to Will p Antibee and Joey P who all gets correctly. 667 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: This is actually the leopard seal, a very deadly predator 668 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: of penguins. So like the orca, it is a serial killer. 669 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: The leopard seal grows up to around eleven feet or 670 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: three point five meters and with loads of sharp teeth. 671 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: The leopard seal is no joke. It is a very, 672 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: I would say, quite a scary, intimidating looking seal. They 673 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: will happily eat anything from penguins, seabirds, fish, smaller species 674 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: of seal, and even krill that they can filter through 675 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 1: their interlocking teeth. So the vocalizations are often used by 676 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: males in the breeding season to attract a mate, and 677 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: they will hang upside down in the water and make 678 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: this call in the hopes of attracting a female. H 679 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: But if I saw one of these things just like 680 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 1: this eleven foot seal, with this mouthful of teeth, these 681 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: beaty predator eyes, hanging upside down and making this call, 682 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: I would assume it is calling for the devil to 683 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: come and take my soul. 684 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that. 685 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 2: It was when it sounds like it could be like 686 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 2: talking to space. 687 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 688 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 2: Don't like that. 689 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: Yeah no, yeah, I like that. It's a good rule 690 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: in general. If it sounds like it's talking to space, 691 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: get out of there. 692 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah no, thanks. 693 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: No, thank you. Onto this week's mystery animal sound the hint, 694 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: don't call this great animal a peasant? So Anna, do 695 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: you have any guesses? 696 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 2: What was the clue? 697 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: Again? Don't call this great animal a peasant. 698 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 3: It's not a peasant. Huh. 699 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: It's a little bit obscure. It's a bit of a 700 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: tough one. Can you guess sort of the type of 701 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: animal that it is? 702 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 3: Well, I mean a bird. I'm a type of bird. 703 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: Interesting, I will actually give you that. Yes, it is 704 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: a type of bird. So that's an extra hint for y'all. 705 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 2: Love, I'm going based off the sort of peasant clue, 706 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 2: and it's in that sort of family. But like he 707 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 2: doesn't like to be confused for a peasant. 708 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: Interesting, very interesting guesses. Well, if you out there, sorry, 709 00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: did you have another? No? Let's well, if you out 710 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: there think you know who is making that sound, you 711 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: can write to me at Creature Featurepod at gmail dot com. 712 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: You can also write any questions you have, any cute 713 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: animal pictures, whatever you want or like topic suggestions kinda. 714 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me today on this 715 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: very liptacular episode where can people find you? 716 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 3: Well, first, thank you so much for having me. 717 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 2: I always enjoy coming and learning the most obscure, random 718 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 2: stuff that I would never think about ever unless it 719 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 2: was for you, So thank you. 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