WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Teammates Swap 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.399 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:18.239 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:22.400 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:29.120 Dallas Cowboys at and the whole show. And here we are. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.360 If Mickey will be quiet for a moment, we'll start 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:36.880 mix shots here and it is a very special edition 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:41.200 of Mick Shots. I am Bill Jones inside not inside 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:45.640 the SWBC Mortgage studios here at the Star in Frisco. No, 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:50.640 I am inside the Academy Sports and Outdoors studios here 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:54.400 at Forge Center at the Star in Frisco. Along with 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.760 Mickey Spagnola and Mickey, we have two very special guest 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.560 on Mick Shots, not only today and tomorrow, as we'd 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.920 got the great Dave Hellman and the great Heckma Harrison 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:13.480 inside their respective SWC Mortgage studios at home. How you doing, David, Heckma, 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.600 I'm great. I'm thrilled to be here with y'all. Bringing 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:22.360 some young flavor to the whole show. That's a good idea. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:28.039 Mickey needs some young flavor. Always need young flavor. They 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:35.920 helped me with technology, right and Heckma, how you doing? Man? 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.000 This is this is awesome. You know, I got my 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.880 I got my bones here on talking Cowboys with with Mickey. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.640 He initiated me. You know, I thought that I was 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:46.800 you know, I thought I was in with Mickey, you know, 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.200 I really did. Um. I thought I'd made a friendship. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.360 But since I've left, I hadn't heard from him. So 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.200 you know, look, I'm just glad to be back with 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.640 the game. All right. I thought i'd give Dave and 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.720 Heckma the first chance because Mickey was talking right off 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.080 the top of the show as if it's his own 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.360 show or something. But Mickey, you have your cowboy gear 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:09.120 on inside your own studio there, I do, uh and 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.920 ready to go. So what do we calling this? Is 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:17.440 this like a swap we swap in teammates something like it? Yeah, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.080 I think yeah, Nick Nick called it a scramble on 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.120 our show. I think that's I don't play golf, but 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:26.720 that sounds fair. Yeah, it's like a Cowboys dot Com 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.760 scramble if you will, and I'll go with that. Dab 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:35.120 you get your whole Cowboys Hawaii shirt on. Well, you 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.919 know it's a pandemic unfortunately, so you know we're gonna 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.200 get some downtime during the bye week, but I doubt 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.160 I'll be able to go anywhere. So I feel like 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.639 the bye week is a place of mine this year. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.120 So I'm trying to conjure up some memories of Hyre 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.799 you go, there, you go. I like that, You know, Bill, 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.680 we should have wore We should have wore in memory 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.960 of our trip to London, because I think November ninth 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.160 was the game that they played in in twenty sixteen 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.679 or twenty fourteen. Should have worn some of our London gear. 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.799 This is kind of the weak anniversary of it. You 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.480 could have worn a London fog trench coat on the 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:14.120 show there, Mickey. Hey, you know Bill, when when I 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.520 when I mentioned we were swapping, it occurred to me 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:21.079 And this might go past these guys, But in nineteen 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:26.880 seventy three, remember when the Yankee pitchers did the wife swap. Yes, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.560 Prince Peterson and Mike Kek Yes, absolutely so little history 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:38.080 for these guys, right, teammates definitely going starting teammates on 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.440 the New York Yankees pitching staff. And they announced at 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:46.720 training camp in seventy three they were swapping wives. That 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.520 sounds like some reality TV shows. They were ahead of 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.360 their time, did we ever find out how that worked 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.160 out for him. It worked out for Peterson and Mike 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.280 Keeck's wife, but not so much the other way out, 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.600 all Right. The reason that I am sporting a tie 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.880 is it's once, actually twice a week I have to 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:12.000 wear a tie these days. Once is when I on 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.200 Tuesday nights, usually as we pull back the curtain, I 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.599 tape to Mike McCarthy show here inside the Academy Sports 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.359 and Outdoors studios. And then on Sunday morning, I do 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.400 a show, a Cowboys Game Day show on CBS eleven. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.560 That's the only time they let me in to the 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.800 CBS eleven studios over the course of the last six 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.440 months is on Sunday morning. And then the only time 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.800 really I get into this studio a couple of times 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.159 for we do a high school show on Wednesdays, but 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.880 McCarthy decided he didn't want to spend a late Tuesday 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.960 night here today, so we're actually taping the show. We're 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.280 supposed to tape it at two o'clock, So that's why 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.320 I'm in here. And who knows the last fifteen minutes 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.960 of the show. Maybe y'all can listen in and watch 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.359 the taping of the Mike McCarthy Show if you want to, 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.800 or how about over the course of the next half 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.760 hour you give me suggestions on I can ask Mike McCarthy. 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.279 How about that. Yes, I was gonna say, we should 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.440 try to get Mike on the show. That's what we 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.680 should do. Say like, hey, let's do a two for one. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.360 It's a good idea, that would be cool. Just let's 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.400 very sit in you know. Well, now, I think it'd 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.320 be better if we all could just ask him questions 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.760 and then that can double us the Mike McCarthy Show 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.280 for this week, which, by the way, you'll be able 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.960 to watch right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com whenever 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.880 it gets posted as well locally in Dallas foot Worth 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:33.960 at eleven thirty on Saturday nights. After all the college 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:38.760 football is over with, after that LSU Alabama game, David, 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.719 that's may or may not happen this week. Please, let's 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.479 let's hope that it doesn't. Let's not let's hope that 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.479 it doesn't happen. I don't really want to watch that, 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.920 all right, So keep all nicky. Let's get to the 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:54.120 news of the day, and there is news regarding one 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:58.640 Treyvon Diggs topping the headlines on this day. The Cowboys 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:02.960 rookie starting cornerback does have a fractured bone in his 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.159 foot and looks like he will be out four to 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:10.120 six weeks. He didn't need surgery on it, so I 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.520 guess that's encouraging. They're supposed to put him in a 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.159 walking boot. They should have told me. I would have 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.520 brought my walking boot in and lent it to him 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.880 if he needed it. And you know, Dave and I 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.880 were just talking about when we thought he might have 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.640 broken the bone in his foot. You know, Jerry Jones 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:33.440 made mentioned this morning that they thought there was something 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.760 wrong when Pittsburgh had that first possession in the fourth 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.559 quarter and they were at the one yard line, and 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.719 Dave and I both saw it. On the second down play, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.719 they threw a past to mccleoud to Digs's side and 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.520 he was ten yards off the line of scrimmage, and 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.599 it went through my mind. I was like, what is 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.640 he doing the balls on the one yard line? Why 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.400 didn't he like manning up right on the line of 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.960 scrimmage with this guy? And I think maybe he already 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.640 knew he did something to it, and he was backing 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.520 off trying to play through it, and then they threw 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.600 another pass his way and he was way off the 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.000 line of scrimmage again, so we'll see. Dave thinks he 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:22.600 saw a play that might have definitely put him to rest. Dave, Yeah, 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.200 all I know for sure is that Trayvon Diggs played 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.800 at least like half a series, if not more with 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.560 this injury like it serta looks like just based on 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.280 you know, the endgame announcement that he was out didn't 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.120 come until almost the end of the game, and he 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.120 went out at the top of the fourth quarter. I 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.240 think he played a little ways with this thing, which 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.440 is just a testament to how tough football players are. 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.320 That you break a boat in your foot as a cornerback, 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.920 you think you're probably getting off the field asap. But 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.120 it looks like he tried to gut it out. I'm 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.920 not one hundred percent sure when had happened, but yeah, 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.120 definitely a weird discrepancy there. But it sucks for Treyvon. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.280 That's tough, news man, tough for us to hear that. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.400 I mean, this injury written team and just another name 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.760 to add to it. I mean, it's a you know again, 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.680 tough break for us. But you know, did also get 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.880 some news today about Tito coming off IR so maybe 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.080 there is a little bit of civil lining in this 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.360 for a veteran, for this squad to get a veteran 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.480 and Tito Woozy a back yep. And mckeids we talked 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.240 about into last week when they didn't an activate him 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.160 before the last game. His twenty one day window was 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.439 expiring this week and so if he was going to 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.559 play this year, they've had to make that move this week. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.720 And so h you know, and another thing, I'm looking 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.719 back through my notes, and it was with four when 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.120 Pittsburgh started their drive with four to eleven left in 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.880 the game, as when Savian Smith was in for Trayvon, 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.720 And it was that prior series which David you're talking about, 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.160 which started at eleven forty left. The couple of times 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.840 they hit Ray Ray McLeod down on the when they 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.440 started that nine that from their own one yard line 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.960 where where Diggs was playing off McLeod on that one, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.079 I think. And I was watching the game from home 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.240 and Romo was saying the same things that that y'all 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.800 were saying in the press box there that he did, 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.040 something must be going on with Diggs. Yeah, and it's 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.840 a good timing for Chittabey Ewoosier to get back in here. 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.960 You know, he missed he I mean, he got hurt 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.360 in the second game of the season, so he's he's 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:30.560 missed uh six games and h you know, he's going 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:35.240 into his free agency year next year, so it's he's 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.120 basically got seven games to kind of prove to either 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:42.040 the Cowboys that he's worthy of being resigned or if 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.320 he's in free agency, you know, he needs something to 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.160 market himself, and these seven games will be I think 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.080 vitally important. And remember until the previous game when Diggs 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:56.360 had two interceptions, Cheetos had an interception in those first 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.240 two games, and that had been the only interception this 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:03.840 team has had until Diggs picked off to the previous game, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.120 which I'm sorry, guys, go ahead, no, no, go ahead. Heck, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.840 that's a that's an interesting situation with Cheeto, you know, 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.280 him getting hurt and also being a year that he's 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.839 looking to sign a contract. I mean, this hamstring injury 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.079 couldn't have come at a worse time for him, So 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.640 mentality wise, that's what I want to know. What is 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.640 he thinking? Is it strong? Enough for him to do 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.719 exactly what you just said, Mick, make a strong enough 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:35.120 case for himself to stay here or auditioning for someone else. Look, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.000 we've known that this young guys played, played hard. He's 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.000 been one of our physical corners, and just looking over 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.320 the defense and looking at over the what's going on 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.040 with them right now, not having him healthy has definitely 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.240 affected what we've had back there. It's just I was 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.839 just gonna say, it's interesting to think that, and I 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:54.920 think any of us are under the illusion that this 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.520 Dallas defense was ever going to be great, But we 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:03.760 really never got a genuine look at the preferred secondary. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.600 You know, I got you know, I guess they had 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.280 them all together in week one, but Cheetah goes out, 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.760 Cheetoh goes out after week two. A B was on 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.280 IR for a two or three week stretch, And now 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.960 that Cheeto's coming back, you've got Treyvon going to IR. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:20.320 So if you're preferred three were Cheeto, Treyvon, and Anthony Brown, 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.200 you maybe got to see them for a game and 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.440 a half. And yeah, and this is this is a 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.560 huge stretch for Cheeto in terms of his financial future. 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.520 But it's not gonna be any easier for him with 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.439 lesson depth in the secondary while he's trying to pull 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.680 it off. You know the other thing I had forgotten 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.000 when I was looking this up, Jordan Lewis missed the 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:44.480 first game, so they never really had their top three 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.400 guys on the field really all at the same time, 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.079 because then Ab got hurt, he was out, then a 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:54.079 B came back, Cheeto got hurt, and and who knows 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.240 what the plan might have been. It might have been 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:00.160 for Digs to kind of slowly move in tow to 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.240 the starting lineup, like give him some plays, and then 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.960 when they felt he was comfortable, get him in there. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.200 But he had to get in there right from the start, 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.640 and that's tough on a rookie corner and you know, 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.240 he paid for it at times, and they paid for 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.800 it at times. The good thing is he never lost 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:22.240 his confidence, and I think they saw something within him that, Okay, 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.280 I got I get beat, but I'm still playing hard. 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.960 And I think that's a good quality at one that 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.800 cornerbacks obviously need to have. You know the other thing, 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.200 when you look back at that game against the Steelers, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.439 when you consider the fact now we know what Diggs 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:42.360 was dealing with on that last drive at Pittsburgh. It 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.800 was a seventy five yard drive that started their own 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.880 one yard line that ended in the Boswell field goal 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.080 that made it a nineteen eighteen game. And then he 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.400 came out and Savion Smith is in there on that 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.760 last drive by Pittsburgh that gave him the lead at 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.160 twenty four nineteen. Think about what the Cowboys were missing 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.640 in their second and dairy from what they wanted to 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.439 have in their secondary and Mickey, as you pointed out 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.400 in yesterday's show, at that point in the game, Uh, 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:11.960 the Steelers, they were they were They were throwing on 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.320 every down anyway. I mean, they decided that we can't 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.880 run the ball, believe it or not. Even with a 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.080 one score game, they weren't running the ball against the 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.720 Cowboys anymore. They were just putting it in Big Ben's ends. 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.480 And h I don't remember the numbers. You said, twenty 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.800 two out of twenty three plays were pass plays during 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.040 that stretch of the game. But the Cowboys, think about it. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.920 They were down not only Cheeto, but also down Treyvon 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.520 Diggs in those two critical fourth quarter possessions of the 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.720 game for the Steelers, and and at that point in 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.400 the game, Mickey, they were playing the dime defense, and 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.720 so you had every defensive back that they had available 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.600 basically that were on the field in that situation. Yeah, 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.400 including Savian Smith, who they basically brought up from the 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:59.200 practice squad for the game. And I think even your 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:05.760 ou SA safety Parker H Parker, he was, Yeah, he was, 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:07.960 he was. He was in the game too. I think 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.920 that playing single safety high because they had moved darry 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.120 and Thompson and Wilson up closer to the line of 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.000 scrimmage along with Woods. So yeah, so they could try 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.360 to cover all these receivers and they were treating um 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.320 and they should have kept treating Ebron Uh as a receiver, 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.920 not a tight end. Uh as the one he scored 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:35.320 on the knockout touchdown when nobody covered him. Jalen Smith, Hey, 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.400 you can't say that because Mike Nolan wouldn't say it. Yesterday. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:42.040 Mike Nolan had the reason he wouldn't say it because 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:47.440 he didn't want to say it. Yeah, Mike Nolan literally 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.120 was like, yeah, the defense just didn't do his job 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.040 well enough, and that's really all I want to say 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.400 about it. I'm like, well, Mike, we have access to 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.760 tape too, So do what that was, you will? It 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.280 was it was like it was like his non answer 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:06.720 on the penalties, right, yeah, exactly. That whole last drive 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.280 by the Steelers and Tony Romo is kind of he's 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.800 he's looking his crystal ball and telling you what's about 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.640 to happen, and then it's happening. And Bill, it just 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.520 seemed to me like Ben new that Savian Smith was 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.600 in the in the ball game, and the way that 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.160 the defense was structure it just made it so much easier. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.240 And then the Eric Ebron hurdling him into the end 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.280 zone was like the cherry on the top for that 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.960 last drive. Oh and I've never played football at a 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:39.800 high level, but sorry, man, no go ahead. I've never 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.040 played football at a high level, but I've played pick 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.360 up football and when somebody can't cover, the quarterback figures 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.160 it out real real quick. Like there's no doubt in 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.600 my mind not to pick on Savian Smith. But Ben 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.640 was in the huddle just like where's thirty two? Who's 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.280 who's gonna be on thirty two? I'm coming to you 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.440 just know that right now, Like there's that's apps what 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.160 was happening? You know what was amazing when Romo kept 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.000 talking about, you know, they've got all these receivers out 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.120 there and at some point somebody's gonna miss a tackle 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.440 and they're gonna break a big play. Right. The next 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:17.640 play was the forty two yard short pass play mistackle? 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.280 I think it was. Was it to Clay Claypool? Um, 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.920 I'm trying to Uh it was to Johnson. Uh, and 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.760 he goes forty two yards which set up that touchdown? 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.320 And it was and he was he was exactly right 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.440 because the feeling this is getting ready to happen, and 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.040 that was a mistackle. Yeah, and that was a mistackle 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.240 by Smith. If I'm not mistaken on that one, you're right. Uh. 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.240 It was awful man, that that last drive. But I 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.960 mean that's why Big Ben Shirley is going to be 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.440 a first ballot Hall of Famer, just by the way 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.280 he orchestrated that last drive. All Right, we're just getting 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.600 started on this edition of Mixed Shots. I got a 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.520 question when we come back in just a moment, what 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:03.840 is the biggest difference between the Cowboys and the Pittsburgh Steelers. 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Let's be careful. 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:03.000 I still got one more to go. I don't get cocky, 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.320 all right. I asked a question before the break, the 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:10.919 biggest difference between the Cowboys and the Steelers. Let's go 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:12.959 around the horn. What do you what do you think 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.720 is the biggest difference between those two teams? Right now? 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:21.040 Let's go with our guests first. All right, heck man, 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.280 you want to go first? I mean, I mean, are 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:30.800 we talking? You're talking right now? Between these two teams, 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.280 I think, obviously, the continuity that they have at quarterback. 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:40.399 I think Big Ben gives them, um gives them a 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:42.600 heck of a lot more than what we're getting from 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:46.120 our quarterbacks right now. And and their defense, those would 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.359 be the two things that I would point to that 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.600 would be, uh, the apparent difference between the Stealers and 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.679 the Cowboys for sure. All right, day, I feel like 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.080 I feel like it is a trick question, like you're 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.880 trying to bait me into something. My answer, I mean, 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.400 what to see if you see what you think? How 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:06.680 about how about the record because one of them, one 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:10.600 of them is currently uh currently in position to get 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:12.679 the buy in the AFC, and the other one is 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:17.399 number three in the draft though, and I mean I 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:21.760 could I couldn't go for that one. I thought that 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:25.040 that he's got something else waiting for me. Surely, surely 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.399 there must be something going on, because that's obvious. I mean, 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:29.960 and Heckman was totally right. The reason for that is 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:33.280 the quarterback and the injuries and the continuity. But yeah, 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.440 one of these teams is planning on playing deep into January. 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:40.280 And the other answers here, there are no wrong answers. 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.280 They're all pretty obvious answers, all right. And I love 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.560 that one. There's bottom line Dave Hellman right there. He 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:48.879 just cuts to the chase. I love that was that 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:52.480 was a perfect answer. All right, Mickey, what's your answer? 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.879 So let me give you three numbers from each team 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.720 and you decide which side of the ball is the 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:03.400 cause of it. Okay, So for the Pittsburgh Steelers, they 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:09.960 registered two sacks, seven tackles for losses, and nine quarterback hits. 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:16.720 Your Dallas Cowboys total zero sacks, three tackles for losses, 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:20.439 and two quarterback hits. So we can talk about the 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:24.920 differences in the quarterbacks for sure, but sounds like either 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:29.000 protection or the ability to put pressure on the opposing 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:33.919 quarterbacks were the difference between the Cowboys and the Pittsburgh 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:39.720 Steelers or mate and but Big Ben said after the 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:43.640 game on Sunday that he thinks that that Cowboys pass 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.160 rush might have been the toughest that they faced all 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:51.400 season long. Did it ever hit them more than one time? Well, 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.439 they they testament they got his knees there at the 0:22:54.520 --> 0:23:00.639 end of the finish it all right. So my answer 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.679 to the question is and this, I think this gives 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.600 the Cowboys hope for the Cowboys fans hope for the future. 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:13.080 The biggest difference between these two teams injuries. I mean, 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.720 when you look at the whole key, it's a it's 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.760 an attrition is such a huge factor in this in 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.480