1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: We live in a chaotic world and we're always trying 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: to make sense of it. Here on this podcast, I 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: always try to find guests who I trust, who can 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: bring us the truth and can try to make sense 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: of this chaotic world that we're living in. So we're 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: going to do that today with Robert Cahally of the 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Trafalgar Group. We've had him on previously, you know, throughout 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: the midterm election to kind of break things down, break 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: down the issues, give us a snapshot of where things stand. 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: So we're going to do that taking a look at 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: the Republican primary field. You know, what does that look like? 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: How strong is Donald Trump's support? You know, he's been 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: up in the polls, so what does that mean? What 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: does that look like? Is the room for other candidates 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: or is it kind of over at this point. We're 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: going to get his take on that, also his take 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: on where Joe Biden stands, his poll numbers, his vulnerabilities, 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: and what are the big issues right now for Americans. 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: We're facing a lot of different issues, you know, a 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: lot's going on, So how does that play out right 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: now in the twenty twenty four presidential election. So we're 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: gonna get Robert's take on all of it. He's very insightful, 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: he knows the numbers. He's been right about most things. 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: So here's Robert. 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: Robert. 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to have you on this show. 27 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: You know, I trust you, I trust your work, so 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time. 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: Well, it is his pleasure to be here. 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: And you're one of those voices that brings comfort to 31 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 3: a lot of conservatives and a lot of people out 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: there who are trying to figure out what's going on. 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: So it's always somebody listened Toody like you who some 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: of the people listen to. 35 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: It's just honored to be here. 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: Well, that's very kind. I appreciate it. And you know, 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: we're all trying to make sense of well it's hard 38 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: to make sense of this world sometimes because you know, 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: things are a little crazy. But you know, I wanted 40 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: to have you on obviously. Look, we've got a lot 41 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: of time, a lifetime in politics before the Iowacoquises and 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: the Republican primary you know, really get started. But I 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: just wanted to kind of have you on to give 44 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: us a snapshot of where things stand now, you know, 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: looking at the Republican primary field, you know, how do 46 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: you assess things. 47 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: It's a primary field that is certainly shifting, and it's 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: it's it's in bloods right now. 49 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: People are kind of. 50 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: Aligning and realigning based on how they feel candidates for doing. 51 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: Uh, we've seen the Santas kind of trip a little bit, 52 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: and we've seen u you know, some of some. 53 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 3: Of his coalition is kind of peeled off. I would 54 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: say some of the most never Trumper elements behind the 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: Santis I have abandoned him to go to Chris Christy 56 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: and go over to believe it or not, Mike Pence. 57 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: And then and then you see, you know, with. 58 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: Tim Scott Andraswami's entrance, Uh, they have taken a lot 59 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 3: of the steam out of kind of that the group 60 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 3: that was was not so overtly and Trump, and then 61 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: Rashami has sent so frankly pro Trump that he has 62 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: kind of taken a lot of that middle ground that 63 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: some of the voters have come off of De Santis 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: that were, you know, they were they were Trump hesitant, 65 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: but they're still like him and they like what he did. 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 3: They just thought maybe somebody different and they see res 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: from me kind of basically taking up some. 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: Of the same issues in the same positions, and they. 69 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: Like him, and so I feel like he's got the 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: energy I see energy out of Tim Scott right now. 71 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: But those two kind of moving up and the Santas 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: and Hayley kind of moving down. And so there's just 73 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: a shifting going on, and you know, Chris Christie kind 74 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: of came in and lightning life that whether he's going 75 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: to get beyond two or three percent uh nasally or 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: any state will have to see. 77 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: You know, that's interesting what you said about Ramaswami, because 78 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, each candidate in the race are taking different approaches, 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: is in how they deal with Trump, who's obviously been 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: the front runner from the start, and he really hasn't 81 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: gone after Donald Trump. So you're saying so far that 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: strategy has worked out for him in picking up maybe 83 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: some of the softer support for Trump going in his direction. 84 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 2: Well, so these are supporters who were basically supporting. 85 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: De Santis at the time because they thought he was 86 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 3: Trump liked, I mean, and so he's taking those people 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: away from the Santas. I mean, I don't think anybody 88 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: works from Trump, but he's taken those kind of people away, 89 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: and you know, it is I would say it's more 90 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: than not just going after him. I mean, the guy 91 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 3: was standing on the street with a megaphone in Miami 92 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: when Trump was arranged. I mean, this guy has. 93 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: Gone out of his way to say, hey Trump voters, 94 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: you know I'm the most pro Trump candidate out there. 95 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: He has been fighting to take that moniker. 96 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: How strong is Donald Trump's support right now from the 97 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Republican base? 98 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, firstly, look at you're in a primary here, 99 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: and he's over fifty percent in a primary after being 100 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: indicted three times and impeached twice. 101 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: I mean, back right there is amazing. 102 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 3: You said it is literally like an incumbent, but it's 103 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: it's almost like, you know, a popular incumbent. 104 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: I mean not you know, not overwhelmingly popularity. 105 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: Didn't draw a primary, but certainly if he drew a primary. 106 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: I mean, when this guy is at fifty percent, I 107 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: mean I was really thinking that Trump could be successful. 108 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: When I was kind of thinking in my mind how 109 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: how twenty twenty four would go, I was thinking that 110 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: this guy can stay around thirty five or forty, he could, 111 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: he can win everything. 112 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: I mean, none, none of us had. 113 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: It in the mat that he would be doing this, well, 114 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: it just didn't seem that wasn't anybody's calculation that it 115 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: was possible. 116 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: But we also didn't did not see the impact. 117 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: That that having this, all these indictments have. 118 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: You know, some will say, you know, and I've said 119 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: it as well, you know, in kind of looking at 120 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: the caveat of Look, it's early. You know, at this 121 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: point twenty fifteen. 122 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: Jeb Bush was up. 123 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Is that a fair comparison or are we just talking 124 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: about something completely different with Donald Trump being so far 125 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: ahead right now? 126 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're comparing Jeb Bush to Donald Trump. 127 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Just to clar right, not necessarily. Obviously, Donald Trump is 128 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: a political beast and Jeb Bush is not. Just in 129 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 1: the point that we looked at past elections where someone's 130 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: sort of been the front runner and then that's tapered off. 131 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: I totally hear. Yeah, it's just ya. 132 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Just to be clear, Jeb Bush with an exclamation mark, 133 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: is not a comparison to Donald Trump. 134 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: So just like Jeb Bush had this far out, I mean, 135 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: it wasn't it didn't have the same energy that there's an. 136 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: Energy level to Trump. 137 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: And again, when Jeb Bush got pounded and hit a 138 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: few times in the face. The numbers fell off. Donald 139 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: Trump is literally hit in the face, but like more 140 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: times than Rocky I mean, And the fact that these 141 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: voters are still there, I think that's it. It's that 142 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: they don't see him backing down from a fight. I mean, 143 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: if this guy was facing one indictment that seemed kind 144 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: of serious, it would be a lot more effective than 145 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: three or four. Because now it's just like they just 146 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: they're kind of finding the throw in the kitchen sink 147 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: adding and they're starting to lose people who were beginning 148 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: to who would be willing to accept that if they 149 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: indiced him for one thing, the multi indictments are the 150 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: best gift they could have given. 151 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: My only concern is a Republican primary voter, is that obviously, 152 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, conservatives see it that way and I see 153 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: it that way, and looking at the Department of Justice 154 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: and realizing that, you know, this is pretty clear weaponization 155 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 1: of government against him, as we've seen really from the start. 156 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I guess my concern is, you know, I wonder if 157 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: you get to a general election, if independents see it 158 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: that way, and if general election voters see it that way, 159 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: or if just conservatives are alone and in viewing it 160 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: that way, it. 161 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: Has a lot to do with, you know, what their 162 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: life experiences and a lot of people, I mean, Trump 163 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: has made a connection that I feel like. 164 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: Is strong with anybody who's kind. 165 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: Of felt like it was them versus the government or anything. 166 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: And I mean anything from. 167 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: Like the irs you have problem with state regulators to 168 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: you a problem with the zoning board. I mean just 169 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: I think he's kind of making connection people and that's 170 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: that's a lot of people, and that's frankly a lot 171 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 3: of independence. 172 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 2: So you know, there's a lot of people going to 173 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: vote on other issues. But the entire credibility of. 174 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: The attacks, if again one indictment, I think, and it 175 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: makes independence really think. 176 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: But three or four just looks. 177 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: I mean, everybody, nobody's getting that. And the other thing 178 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: that the comparison to everybody is making that we find 179 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: at Poey people making is they're spending a lot of 180 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: time going after a lot of political stuff, and yet we. 181 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: Have chaos on the street. How is this right? 182 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 3: And people are very concerned about their personal safety and 183 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: their the safety of their property and seeing all this 184 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: chaos in the streets and that and that the focus 185 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: of law enforcement seems to be political enemies that don't 186 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: make any sense to anybody. And that's the thing we're 187 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: hearing is, you know, I don't feel safe to go 188 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: take my kids to the park in the late afternoon, 189 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: and that this is what we got time, This is 190 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: what we're focused on. This is what law enforcements focused on, 191 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: you know, all the stuff coming across the bordering gangs 192 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: and fit and all. And that's the FBI focus is Trump. 193 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the kind of stuff we're hearing from 194 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: independent type voters. They just don't understand why this is 195 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: so all consumpt all. 196 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: Consuming of law enforcements attention and resources. 197 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: No, I mean that makes a lot of sense. You know, 198 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: I live in Miami, I'm in New York City right now, 199 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: and I don't feel safe walking around, you know. And 200 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: then you've got Alvin Bragg pursuing, you know, this indictment 201 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: against Donald Trump when the city is really in shamble. 202 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: So to your point, you know, it doesn't make sense. 203 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: Trump obviously is just this interesting political phenomenon where you know, 204 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: he energizes a lot of people, but he also energizes 205 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: people against him. Does he energize more people against him? 206 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: Than he energizes for him. 207 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: I think that there can be arguments made about that 208 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: in the past, but I think it really depends on 209 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: who they run. 210 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: Because they run. 211 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: Biden, or they run Harris, or are they run Newsome, 212 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: They're not running somebody who's powered one. Now, the Democrats 213 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: were smart, they were really smart, they'd go grab a 214 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: John Bell Edwards and Louisiana who has a very middle 215 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: of the road record, and they'd kind of run a 216 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: centrist Democrat like when they I mean at the time 217 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: Bill Clinton was, and they would they would wipe out 218 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: that that that middle. 219 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: But the thing is it depends on who he's against. 220 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: Because what people. 221 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: Also realize is they thought when they voted for Biden 222 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: that it was just I'm tired of all the drama 223 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: Trump brings. 224 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: Uh, we just need a. 225 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: Little more stability and a little more quiet. This guy 226 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 3: is kind of modern. He won't we change things. 227 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: Well, they've seen that that that's not what happens when 228 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: you put a Democrat. Certainly somebody who starts acting on 229 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: the left in office. And Biden only won because the 230 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: perception that he's the moderate guy. He won't make a 231 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: big difference, he won't cause any big waves. Well, no 232 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: one thinks that Biden don't cause waves if he gets 233 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 4: re elected. No one thinks Harris wouldn't cause waves if 234 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 4: she got reelected. 235 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: And no one thinks that that Govin wouldn't either. So 236 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 3: you have three people that will take the country in 237 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: the same direction nobody wants to go. And also when 238 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: people get scared, when people start fearing for their national safety, 239 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: then it changes their mindset. You know, they only wanted 240 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: Churchill when they were in a war. But when you're 241 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: but but when things look when it looks like, you know, 242 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: the walls are closed in and you got China and 243 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 3: Russia teaming up together and basically the access I mean, 244 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: you know, the beginnings of a third World war, access 245 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: powers coming together. Now, now's when you want the biggest, 246 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: baddest guy you can get. And if you've got to 247 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: put up a little attitude to have some strength, you 248 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: want it because American weakness is not getting it us anywhere. 249 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: People know it, and people see it, and they feel it. 250 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 3: They feel it from the way Chata seems you're pushing 251 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 3: us around the dumbest thing I've ever seen. 252 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 2: That balloon because it is galvanized. The America public that 253 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: gets China more than anything I've ever seen, and people 254 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 2: are a little scared about that. 255 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: And I also think when you look at the dynamic 256 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: of this campaign, you also have to look at the 257 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: difference between twenty twelve, excuse me, twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. 258 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: And the difference was Jill Stein, Jill Stein's margin, was 259 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: Trump's margin a victory, Well, in twenty twenty, there were 260 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: anybody's tooken up those middle votes, Well there will be 261 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: at least one in most states, soaking those up, maybe two, 262 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: and that is going to not hurt the Democrats, and 263 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: so you know, you get you get into a more 264 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: competitive freeway race. And that is also a way that 265 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: that Trump's personality could be minimized in his The anti 266 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: Trump vote to be split between people because there are 267 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: Republicans all across America who did not vote for Trump 268 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: who you know, maybe they're you know, they're it didn't 269 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: seem appropriate their country club or wherever they were and 270 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 3: all their friends, and they it was just good to 271 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 3: vote for Trump and that Biden wouldn't be fine. And 272 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: now they're like, oh my god, you know, my stock 273 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: portfolio is terrible. Everything is terrible, and their votes went 274 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: into the bottom call. 275 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: But next time they may not. Some of them might 276 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: not vote for Trump, some of them will. 277 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: But giving them somewhere to go, that doesn't just stack 278 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: them in the Democrat calum It makes it very competitive. 279 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: So the more challengers that are out there, the more 280 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: of the race goes. I mean, everybody had needs to 281 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: remember Bill Clinton defeated in the combat president with forty 282 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: three percent of the popular vote because the race was divided. 283 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: That's a really interesting point about the third party possibilities 284 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: and about the Chinese balloon. You know, I obviously fly 285 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: pretty often for work, and I'm friends with one of 286 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: the waitresses at the airport in normally fly out of 287 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: in New York, and she had mentioned the Chinese bloom 288 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: to me because she knows where I work at Fox, 289 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: and so we started talking about that, so to your point, 290 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, and she was talking about just how week 291 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: it made us look and how we're you know, So 292 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: to your point, I really do think that. 293 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: Did and people are scared. 294 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. 295 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: I heard Trump deliver. 296 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: Uh. You know, I grew up in South Carolina and 297 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: always been part of South count of politics, and so 298 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: I was at the South Kunta annual dinner this weekend 299 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,479 Speaker 3: and Trump was the speaker, and one of the lines. 300 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: Of like, you know, I'm the only guy that'll keep 301 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: you out of World War three. I think that line 302 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: is going to resonate with people. People do not want that. 303 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: I mean people would like to you know, nobody, nobody 304 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: wants to get in some kind of worldwide conflicts of 305 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 3: nuclear weapons. Nobody wants that. And for him to say, hey, 306 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: you know, I'm the only kept you out of war. 307 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: I'm the only one that didn't start me thinking I'm 308 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: decelerated things. That message a tough guy who doesn't want 309 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: to fight, but be ready to have a strong defense 310 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: in a void to fight as a compelling mess to. 311 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: Take a quick commercial break more with Robert on the 312 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: other side. Obviously, you know you'll get national polls, and 313 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: his support is very strong in the Republican primary. Are 314 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: you seeing that translate you know, obviously primary nominations or 315 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: state by state to win. Are you seeing that support 316 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: translate into the individual state contest as well? 317 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: Yes, the state contest are breaking up, raking up a 318 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: little different each one, but in everyone I'm. 319 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: Not only common out and as it current leads by 320 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: wild March. 321 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: So absolutely, that is yes, definitely what we're seeing in 322 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: the in the different state and it you know, it's 323 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: just you know, one state you'll have somebody different leading 324 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: u you know, you have certain candidates doing better and 325 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: in places like I mean, Chris Christie's probably actually last 326 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 3: time I look, I feel like Chris Christie is doing 327 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: a little better in New Hampshire, and. 328 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: Uh, Nikki Hayley was doing and Tim Scott. 329 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: Were doing better in South Carolina in the Santa was 330 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: probably one of his low estates, and so those states 331 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 3: are are kind of checking up. But the commonality is 332 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: that Trump is his way ahead. 333 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: Why do you think Desantas isn't registering with Republican primary 334 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: voters as much as you know, a lot of people anticipated, 335 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: including myself. 336 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: There are a lot of people who convinced him to 337 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: run because it was his moment, and I know they 338 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 3: used the whole you know, Chris Christie should run against Obama. 339 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 2: It was his time. Well, his moment was February and 340 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: March of this year. It was like he let the. 341 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 3: Anticipation of him running build and build and build and build, 342 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: and then you're ready to deliver some kind of a 343 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: massive crescendo if you've let it build that much. And 344 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 3: then it was like the. 345 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: Four hours all day I could talk about that. He 346 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: went and bought fireworks. 347 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: And he opens up his trunk and You're like, are 348 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: you serious that's what you bought. You were excited, you 349 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 3: thought we were gonna be sitting fireworks all night. He 350 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: got a file of bottle rockets in the Trump and 351 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 3: I think it was like that, It's just he let 352 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: the expectation bid. 353 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: I think if you'd have gotten in this ration, February 354 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: would be looking at a different race altogether. 355 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: That's a really interesting point that makes a lot of sense. 356 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: You had mentioned that obviously crime and people just not 357 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: feeling safe, which I think is something that really just 358 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 1: registers with everyone who's listening. But you know, what are 359 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: the big issues you're seeing right now in pulling that 360 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: Americans are just concerned about that are top of mind. 361 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: Economy is one, and the thing about the economy is 362 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: and this is what people are saying is, you know 363 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: there's this idea that we you know, with everything going 364 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: on with tum come about, there's two justice systems, so people. 365 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: Feel like there's two economies. 366 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 3: There is nothing that upsets a working family who had 367 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 3: to put last month's grocery bills on a credit card 368 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: more than to watching the news and having everybody say 369 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 3: the economy is improving, and they're. 370 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: Like, for who, because they don't feel it at all. 371 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: And so this idea that that we are moving into 372 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 3: almost a destruction of the middle class, that they're gonna 373 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: be a rich few elite who do well and then 374 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: everybody else is just going to have to, you know, 375 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: figure it out. It is kind of is what way 376 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: things are feeling, and so people need to They don't 377 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: feel like there's been major belief. They don't feel like 378 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: good things are happening. 379 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: No matter how no matter how much the news. 380 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: Says good things are happening, how employment is up and 381 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff, because what they know is 382 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: what we know is that, first of all, there's a 383 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: lot of people who aren't looking for jobs anymore. That 384 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: makes the unemployment numbers high, and there's a lot of 385 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: people who are doing jobs that are they're much capable 386 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: of much more just because you know, you used to 387 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: be running a branch of a bank and that, and 388 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 3: now you know you're managing a restaurant that you may 389 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: still have a job, but. 390 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: You might make it half what you were making. 391 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 1: There are a lot of issues culturally going on in 392 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: the country right now. You know, look at the transgender issue, 393 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: you look at some of the things kids are being 394 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: taught in schools. How do you see the culture wars 395 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: presenting themselves in sort of a general election? You know, 396 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: how does that all play out politically? 397 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 3: Some of the Republicans who who are to tell me, they're, oh, 398 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 3: you know, you got too much culture war. I'm like, 399 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: you don't understand. Cultural war is what builds this army. 400 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 3: Without what's been happening recently, we would have the same 401 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: old people. But whether it was target, whether it was 402 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: by light, whether it is transgender athletes playing women's sports. 403 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 3: There are a lot of new recruits to this side 404 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: because of these culture conflicts. Uh, you know, from what's 405 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 3: being taught in schools, and all of a sudden, it 406 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: is one of the single greatest thing that will make 407 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: us more competitive with suburban women are some of these 408 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 3: exact culture wars. Because now that they're they're so they're 409 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: so upset about what's going on. 410 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: In their schools that. 411 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: They may they may look at the Republicans that they 412 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: you know, kind of return the nose on in the 413 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 3: path and go, wait a minute, these guys are standing 414 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: up for us, and these guys are for you know, 415 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: having our children. We tall kind of sex stuff when 416 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: they're in second grade, and so they're winning over new recruits. 417 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: That nothing moves people to this column faster. 418 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 3: I mean, how many how many people do you know 419 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 3: that we consider themselves non political who who have made 420 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: a personal decision. 421 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: Maybe it's to avoid target, maybe it's. 422 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: About bud light or something else that you said, Oh 423 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 3: I didn't really well as you cared about stuff like that. 424 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: I mean, that's been that's been happening all over the country, 425 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 3: and I think it certainly makes Republicans more competitive than 426 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: a general election with some of these suburban folks than 427 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: they have been in quite some time. 428 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: And that's important too, because you know, one of if 429 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is the Republican not many you know, one 430 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: of his areas of weakness has been with women, particularly 431 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: suburban women. 432 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I feel like that is that is a 433 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: real pickup for them. 434 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: Looking at Joe Biden, how vulnerable is he right now? 435 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: Weird takeaways and looking at his numbers, I. 436 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: Think he's the single most vulnerable president run for vice 437 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 3: president that I have ever seen. 438 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know much. 439 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: About what Carter was facing, but it's that bad from 440 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: what I've been told people to understand that that race. 441 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: I think that this guy's he's just he is in 442 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: real trouble. He's lost so much and I haven't figured 443 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: out yet. While the Democrats just don't do something different. 444 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: I mean, why they don't just realize that this impeachment, 445 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: I mean, this whole Hunter Bobben thing is a gift 446 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: for them and use it to get rid of the guy. 447 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: I can't forget why they would just go forward with him. 448 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. 449 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: With break more in pulling. 450 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: Well. 451 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: And then you've got Kamala Harris, who is the least 452 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: popular vice president in American history. So there really isn't 453 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: anyone on the ticket right now that has a you know, 454 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: positive approval rating with Americans. 455 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: That's true. 456 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's obviously waiting in the wings. You know, how 457 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: strong politically do you think he would be in a 458 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: general election? 459 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 3: I don't think he'd be as strong as probably Gavin thinks, 460 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: because nobody looks at California as a success story. When 461 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: a governor runs, he has to he or she has 462 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: to sell their status as. 463 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: A success story. And you've seen that at every governor. 464 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 3: Who's had a successful presidency or who has been able 465 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: to achieve the presidency, they sold what they accomplished and. 466 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: Governor and he can't do it. 467 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 3: So you know, he thinks he can win this thing 468 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: on charm and looks alone and I just don't see it. 469 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: But I don't think it's possible. He's a very flawed candidate. 470 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 3: And that's why even if Republicans nominate someone very controversial 471 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: like Trump, it's all about who you run against. 472 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: Robert, I've learned a lot from this conversation. I appreciate 473 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: you taking the time. Is there anything else you'd like 474 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: to leave us with before we go? 475 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: Keeping on what's going on out there, and realize that 476 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 3: there's a lot of. 477 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: People trying to put nonsense and trying to confuse you, 478 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: and pay attention. 479 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: And make sure that when you get to get a 480 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: chance to hear directly from the candidate what they think 481 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 3: out of our own mouth. 482 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: Take it. 483 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: It's great advice. Robert, thanks so much for taking the time. 484 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. It's always great to catch up, 485 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: and I'd love to have you on periodically just to 486 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: kind of bring us updates as we move along here. 487 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: I'll look forward to it those. 488 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: Robert Kahali with the Trafalgar Group always interesting. Really appreciated 489 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: his perspective, and we're going to try to do these 490 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: check ins with him throughout the primary just to you know, 491 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: obviously these are just a snapshot of time, but it's 492 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: just helpful to kind of, you know, try to figure 493 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: out where things stand. 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