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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is Indian summer. It maybe,

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Speaker 1: worst tomorrow. That's the deal. Outdoors meantime, outdoors and Bills

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Speaker 1: that word. We're here for One Bill's Live from One

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Speaker 1: talk some Bills football with you and with a couple

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Speaker 1: one o'clock today. Jerry Hugh's coming in after practice. That's

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Speaker 1: first the nice etias, Good afternoon, Steve. How's it going.

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Speaker 1: It's going well? How about with you? The week is

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Speaker 1: dragging along, it's dragging. What day is today? It is

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Speaker 1: hump day? But uh yeah it Uh, I'm ready for practice.

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Speaker 1: I'm the Sean McDermot. We're gonna have some sound from

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Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's press conference of this big thing that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you and I both you're the same as me. You

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Speaker 1: I mean this, this Lashawn McCoy thing is like it's

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Speaker 1: But obviously something's gone. You know. They made some calls

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Speaker 1: you know, Carson wentz uh Lane Johnson and Nelson Agalore,

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Speaker 1: So you got that in the background, trade deadline. So

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Speaker 1: to our man Chris Brown first though, Chris Brown, Bills

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Speaker 1: the Houston Tections. Good afternoon, Chris Brown. How are you today? Doing? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Beautiful day here, little Indian summer, middle of October. So

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Speaker 1: foolish for him to do that today. Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 1: question that so many trade there's more trade conversations that

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Speaker 1: go on we don't know about than we do. And

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Speaker 1: I think this one got out because it does seem

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Speaker 1: obvious that Philly wants to make a deal for a

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Speaker 1: running back somehow, some way. They got to get somebody in.

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Speaker 1: Jay Agi is off their rosters on IR. They need

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Speaker 1: a body and they would love to get a body

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Speaker 1: that is worthy of a team that's contending. That's where

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are. That's a desperate time for an organization.

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Speaker 1: After they struggled so hard for so many years, they

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Speaker 1: finally got in. They got it. They got their quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He went down last year, they managed to win the

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Speaker 1: World Championship with the second guy. Now they got their

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Speaker 1: MVP candidate back, and now things are starting to fall

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Speaker 1: apart in other places. Yea, this is I think that

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Speaker 1: I think the anxiety levels kind of high in Philly

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Speaker 1: and that's why this conversation, as opposed to all the

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Speaker 1: dozens of other ones that happened has gotten traction because

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Speaker 1: people don't perceive Buffalo as being a long term destination

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Speaker 1: for Leshaun McCoy. They think he's you know, the team's

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Speaker 1: not going to be good enough early enough, fast enough

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Speaker 1: for Leshaun McCoy to make a difference on him when

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Speaker 1: they are ready to contend. That's the perception around the country.

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Speaker 1: So they think Leshaun would want to go someplace like

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Speaker 1: Philly to be on a contender right now. That adds

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Speaker 1: fuel to this as well. The simple fact of the

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Speaker 1: matter is for the Buffalo Bills, they like him right

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Speaker 1: where he's at. They're using him, Yeah, they're using him.

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Speaker 1: They're giving him the workload. He's their best offensive player,

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Speaker 1: and he is part of their rest to pay for

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Speaker 1: winning games this year absolutely right now about it. Right now.

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Speaker 1: They like where he's at right now. But where are

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Speaker 1: they in three weeks. I guess that's the intriguing part

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Speaker 1: of this. With the trade deadline coming up three weeks

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Speaker 1: from yesterday, and we want to engage you on this.

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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about this. Steve is outlined. We

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Speaker 1: know what the trade would mean for the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 1: as they hope to return to Super Bowl contention. But

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Speaker 1: what would a Lashaw McCoy trade mean for the Buffalo Bills?

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Speaker 1: Right now? We have thoughts on that. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about that, but you're welcome to join us as well.

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Speaker 1: Phone lines are open eight oh three five fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. It's

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Speaker 1: more than just trade them or not. I think we

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Speaker 1: can get beyond that a little bit. Maybe you think

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Speaker 1: they should, maybe you think they shouldn't, whatever, But what

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Speaker 1: would trading Leshawn McCoy mean for the Buffalo Bills? Call something,

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Speaker 1: let us know about that, or you can participate in

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll which is up right now. Pretty simple,

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Speaker 1: What would trading McCoy mean for the Buffalo Bills? We

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Speaker 1: offered three or four options, depending on how you look

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Speaker 1: at it. Half of you fifty six percent say it

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Speaker 1: would mean that the return was too good to ignore.

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Speaker 1: I think we all for that right that. It's maybe

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Speaker 1: you know what, third rounder, second rounder, that'd be outrageous.

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Speaker 1: You'd have to take that, maybe not as a fourth

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Speaker 1: or fifth round or worth it. We can debate that.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine percent of you say trading McCoy would mean

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Speaker 1: the Bills are giving up on the current season. That's significant.

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Speaker 1: Two And we can discuss that. Eleven percent of you

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Speaker 1: say trading McCoy would mean the Bills believe that Chris

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Speaker 1: Ivory and Marcus Murphy are good enough, good enough to

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Speaker 1: get them through the year. Four percent have something else

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Speaker 1: in mind. There's a lot of Again, the benefits to

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are obvious. What are the benefits of the Bills?

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Speaker 1: Is it just the return they would get in the draft?

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Speaker 1: Is it doesn't mean that they, you know, move ahead,

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Speaker 1: turn the page on twenty eighteen. I would not be

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Speaker 1: in favor of that, and that's why I'd prefer to

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Speaker 1: wait until at least, you know, you get to the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline October thirtieth. Let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: We got phone lines open on this eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty or on Twitter. We'll read

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Speaker 1: some tweets on the tweet sheet and will continue to

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Speaker 1: check the Twitter poll. What would training Lea Shawn McCoy

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Speaker 1: mean for the Buffalo Bills? Are you in favor? Are

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Speaker 1: you not? What does it do to the Bills. It's

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Speaker 1: a good Twitter post even it's just it's there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of you said it. There's a lot of different

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Speaker 1: permutations on this. For the Bills, it's pretty basic. For

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, we want to contend for the Super Bowl again.

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Speaker 1: We need a running back. We need one badly. Let's

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Speaker 1: go get clearly the best. I guess lady on Bell

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Speaker 1: would be the best best, but let's get clearly one

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Speaker 1: of one of the best ones available. That's it for

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, and the price they would pay for the

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Speaker 1: Bills a little bit different. As you point out with Brownie,

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Speaker 1: we'll show I'm mcquie elected captain by his team, pretty

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Speaker 1: popular among his teammates, it would seem. And he's the

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Speaker 1: bell cow. He is the bell. He is this focal

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Speaker 1: point of the offense we saw it last Week's an

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Speaker 1: offense that needs everything is possibly put together and scrape

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Speaker 1: up to help them score points any way shape or

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Speaker 1: form they can. The trading that guy means your offense

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Speaker 1: is not I don't think you're gonna get better. I

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Speaker 1: mean what if they do trade you a second round

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Speaker 1: pick and you say, okay, how about this, and you

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Speaker 1: look down, Okay, you're gonna get a wide receiver, Say okay,

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Speaker 1: give us a wide receiver and a number two in return,

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Speaker 1: and they got Jordan Matthews on their roster. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: trade for him again that You're not gonna do that

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Speaker 1: because Jordan doesn't like it him and a right, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have another kid Nelson Agilore, Kimar Aiken and al

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Speaker 1: Sean Jeffrey. They're not gonna let one of those three

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Speaker 1: guys go because that's just counterproductive as to what they're

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Speaker 1: really trying to do in Philly. They gotta keep all

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Speaker 1: their good guys. Not they're not gonna give you one

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Speaker 1: of their other good offensive players to upgrade their running

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Speaker 1: back position. Uh, you know, so you're not gonna get

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Speaker 1: a player that's gonna help you this year. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing I think you have to be if

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Speaker 1: you're a Bills fan or the Bills front office, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, you're gonna say, Okay, here's the price for Lashawn,

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Speaker 1: and the more desperate we think you are, the price

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Speaker 1: may go up because we're perfectly willing to have him

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Speaker 1: stick here for this year and next year and we

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Speaker 1: don't have to extend him, we don't have to do anything.

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Speaker 1: We've got him under contract for another year. As well.

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Speaker 1: They can say that, do they mean it the Bills? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's the stance you take. I mean, I guess. I

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Speaker 1: mean that game. Listen, that game he had against Tennessee

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Speaker 1: was really good. He's playing really good football for a

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Speaker 1: team that is challenged around him offensively, And that is

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Speaker 1: the kind of guy you gotta have. He's versatile, he's

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Speaker 1: not just He's not like an Earl Campbell kind of

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Speaker 1: running back where he's going to just pound it in there.

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Speaker 1: He makes guys miss, he can catch it out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield, he can screen passes in the inside, running,

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Speaker 1: outside running. He makes something out of nothing, which has

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Speaker 1: been really important behind this offensive line. And he's a

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Speaker 1: perfect compliment or has the perfect complimentary piece in Chris

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Speaker 1: Ivory next to him. So he is really valuable to

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Speaker 1: the Bills, and I don't think you consider trading him

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Speaker 1: unless you get something really valuable in return. I agree.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk with you about a phone line's open

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Speaker 1: eight three fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. What would trading le Sean

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Speaker 1: McCoy mean for the Bills. It's only a rumor. Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott didn't talk much about it today, did not did

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Speaker 1: not squatch the rumor. We didn't say not true, but

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Speaker 1: it's only a rumor. There's no real credible reports of

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Speaker 1: any offers going back and forth. What would trading McCoy

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Speaker 1: mean for the Bills? Give us a call, let us

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Speaker 1: know what you think. We're back with more One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, One Goes Live, One Goes Drive, John Murphy

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Speaker 1: and see Tasker on a beautiful day in Orchard Park

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Speaker 1: people all of the country and which they had weather

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Speaker 1: like this, Chris including we send our thoughts and prayers

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Speaker 1: to those folks down south and the Florida Panhandle area

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Speaker 1: dealing with the hurricane. Michael. We hope everything turns out

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Speaker 1: well for them. But you're hearing from people out in

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Speaker 1: the Midwest today. My mom and dad watched the show

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Speaker 1: and my mom is button dialing me while we're in

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Speaker 1: break So Mom, if you're doing that, stop that. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, somebody Buffalo Wingware chimed in. According to Wiki,

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Speaker 1: Indian summer can only occur after a killing frost, So Murphy,

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Speaker 1: you're right again. Yeah, and we haven't had that frost.

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Speaker 1: We have not had that. It's been in the forties.

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Speaker 1: It's been warm at night the last year, three or

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Speaker 1: four nights. Yeah. Yeah, So there you go. You're you're

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Speaker 1: the man. Hey, Lashan McCoy, What would a trade of

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Speaker 1: Leshan McCoy mean to the Buffalo Bills? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: That's our Twitter poll, that's our topic to get things

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Speaker 1: going today. We got Thurman Thomas coming up at one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We'll get his thoughts on it. You and I just

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Speaker 1: spent a few minutes with Thurman yesterday and he was saying,

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Speaker 1: what trading McCoy, Why would they do that? Basically, he said,

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Speaker 1: that's all we have offensively, and you can get down

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Speaker 1: down the roster and take your pick. You might be

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Speaker 1: able to go to like Jordan Poor, your Mica Hyde,

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Speaker 1: and of course Tradavious White. You pick a more talented

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Speaker 1: and accomplished player on the certainly more nobody's more accomplished,

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Speaker 1: But pick a more important player on the offensive side.

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Speaker 1: I think you're really hard pressed to find one. Well,

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Speaker 1: we got a call on this topic. JM from Salt

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Speaker 1: Lake City, Utah. JM, go ahead, you're on the air

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Speaker 1: with us. Hey, guys, just want to say I love

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Speaker 1: the show and I really appreciate what you guys do.

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Speaker 1: I'm not hearing lonely Utah, and I don't really get

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Speaker 1: to feel connected to the Bill's community, so I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You get Broncos country out there in Salt Lake. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of there's no football team in Salt Lake, so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of Broncos and it's kind of like some

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Speaker 1: California teams. I think when the Raiders moved to Vegas,

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Speaker 1: that will probably be the team. Yeah, I could see that.

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Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Jam anyway? Yeah, So I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about Shady. I love Shady. He's like

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Speaker 1: been one of my favorite players for years now. But

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Speaker 1: we consistently say he's like the best player on the roster,

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Speaker 1: and I just wanted to hear you guys thoughts on

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Speaker 1: do you think that's sort of resting on his laurels

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Speaker 1: so to speak, Because I mean, so far this season

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Speaker 1: in the first three games he played, he had like

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Speaker 1: eighty five yards. He had a great game against the Tops.

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Speaker 1: But it seems to me that, like Chris Hirey is

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Speaker 1: more of a sure thing to get tough yards and

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Speaker 1: Shady's not as consistent this year, and I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to see if you guys think, like, is he really

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Speaker 1: the best player on a roster this year? I get you,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a legitimate point, but let's face it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jay, I hate to say it like this,

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Speaker 1: but the bar is not that high. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: got a rookie quarterback, You've got an offensive line that

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Speaker 1: was shuffled around, still trying to find itself. Charles Clay

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Speaker 1: quarterback really thrown at him. Calvin Benjamin will tell you

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Speaker 1: the same thing offensively. I don't think there's any question

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Speaker 1: that LaShaun McCoy is still the guy, and I think

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Speaker 1: the game he had this last week against Tennessee would

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Speaker 1: would prove that when he's got any space at all,

637
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Speaker 1: when you give him enough chances to be successful, and

638
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: when you've got a lead where you can keep the

639
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: running game involved in the game plan, I don't think

640
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: there's any question that he is really, really a good player,

641
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: and at this point he is I think the biggest

642
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: and best weapon the Bills have. But I think in

643
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: the first couple of games. You cited his numbers in

644
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: the Baltimore game, his numbers in the LA Charger game,

645
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: even in the in the Viking game. You know, this

646
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: is a guy that didn't get enough touches because the

647
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: team was down big double digits right away, and he's

648
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: just not going to be able to hand it to him.

649
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: And certainly in the passing game, everybody's limited because you

650
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: got a rookie quarterback who's still trying to find his

651
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: way and may not be able to find an open guy.

652
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: So it's you know, the passing game's great and he

653
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: can do all of this stuff, but he's still got

654
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: the same rookie quarterback pulling the trigger. So everybody in

655
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: the passing game has kind of have their numbers depressed

656
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: to some extent because of Josh Allen and where he

657
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: is in his development. But when they can stay in

658
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: the game on the scoreboard, Leshaun McCoy is the guy

659
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: they can lean on because the running game will stay

660
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: there and they can hand it to him and you

661
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: don't have to depend on Josh Allen to drop back,

662
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: read the defense, dissect what they're doing, and find the

663
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: open guy. And maybe that's Leshaun McCoy on a certain

664
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: play jam. Yeah, I think he is the best player

665
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: on the offense, and I certainly think he's the most

666
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: dynamic player in the offense too, which is important, the

667
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: guy most capable of making a big play. I like

668
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: what Chris Ivory has done. I like the way he runs.

669
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: I think he's a great changeup in style to Leshaun McCoy.

670
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: But I think McCoy is a special talent still at

671
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: age thirty and in an offense that is just, you know,

672
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: dying to find playmakers, he is one that you can

673
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: almost rely on making some pretty big plays, even thirteen

674
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: yard pickups the other day, right that third and three

675
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: fourth quarter drive last Sunday. That's a huge play to

676
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: get thirteen yards on third and three, and he did

677
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: it almost all by himself after he caught the little

678
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: swing pass to the outside. Yeah, I think I do

679
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: think he's the best and certainly the most dynamic player

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00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: on offense. Aaron calling from Canada. I Aaron, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. I

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00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: am I actually John, you just touched on a couple

683
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: of points that I wanted to mention. I think not

684
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: taking any of Leshawn's talents away from him, he is

685
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: no doubt the best player offensive on the Bills right now. However,

686
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: I think with his age where he's going in terms

687
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: of um not getting any younger, and having known that

688
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: we do have Ivory and Murphy back there, which is

689
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: already a good change of paste tandem, I think that

690
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: there is no better time than in the next couple

691
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: of weeks here to get most value for Leshawn from

692
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles who are looking for that type of player. Again,

693
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: you look at like the Pittsburgh Steelers and Levon Bell

694
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: in that whole situation. Look what they've done. I understand

695
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: that they're they're not as good as a team without

696
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: levey On Bell, but if you say the same thing

697
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: about them, they're finding ways to win games without him. Again,

698
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: I think Leshawn, yes, he did like he pulls out

699
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: miraculous runs in every game, and that third and thirteen

700
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: the last game, was just at the only shady kind

701
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: of move that that we can we can get from

702
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: him only, And I think that by replacing him isn't

703
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: going to be the worst thing that we could possibly

704
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: see in this season. But going forward, I think this

705
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: is the best time to make a move. What do

706
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: you think it says about the team in their mindset

707
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: about this season? If they trade LaShaun McCoy to the

708
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: Philadelphi Eagles in the next three weeks, what do you

709
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: think it says about where they the Bills are in

710
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: their development, Because looking at from last season, it's injuries

711
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: always happened in the NFL, It's inevitable, and it's always

712
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: the next man up mentality, and that's what I think

713
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: is going to happen. If Shady or to be moved,

714
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be the next man up. Somebody's going

715
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: to have to fill his shoes. I know their big

716
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: shoes to fill, but I think Chris Ivory, the way

717
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: he's been running the last couple of weeks and Marcus

718
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: Murphy went healthy, I think you do have a good

719
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: one two punch there that can fill those shoes. Again,

720
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: receiving options are limited, and I don't know how those

721
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: guys catch the ball out of the backfield. Shady again,

722
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: you get him in open space and he only does

723
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: shady things. But it's it's it's I think again it's

724
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: speaking strictly on age and value. There's no better time

725
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: to do something Yeah, you're right about the value, Aaron.

726
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that he will not have

727
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: that kind of value at the end of the year,

728
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: and you may not have a suitable trading partner at

729
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: the end of the year for Lashaw McCoy, right. I mean,

730
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles are desperate a Super Bowl contending team. They

731
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't be anyway desperate for a running back. So you're right,

732
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: the value may never be there, And that's a consideration.

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00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure for Brandon Bean, like, who's gonna be there

734
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: in the offseason to give me whatever we might get

735
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: in a trade for Lashaw McCoy, that the price now

736
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: might be better than it would be in January February.

737
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: I think that's a legitimate consideration. I think you're right

738
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: in one thing, Aaron. They would have to treat it

739
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: just like as if Lashaw McCoy got injured and you know,

740
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: which could happen. I guess it's just like every everything. Yeah,

741
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: but well, players buy that, but yeah that you gotta

742
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: sell that. They got to act like that, But that's

743
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: not what happened. You traded him, and you got to

744
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: sell that to the locker room, and you got to

745
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: sell that to a team that's trying to win games

746
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: and you're It would be impossible to convince an NFL

747
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: locker room, this Buffalo Bill's locker room, that you think

748
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: you're better after that trade this year. This is a

749
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: team that got into the playoffs last year because they

750
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: overachieved and they were all in it together. And I

751
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: think you sabotage that by trading Lashawn McCoy and trying

752
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: to figure and trying to think, you know, we're just

753
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: as good or we can win just as many games

754
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: with a next year's number two. This year, I just

755
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: don't think you can sell that, and I think that

756
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: would be I think it'd be a mistake. There's just

757
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: no way to justify it. So you're not ruling it out,

758
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: are you, Because I'm not ruling it out, no, But

759
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: it would have to be a knock your socks off deal,

760
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: like more than a number two. I think you're not

761
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: gonna get for a thirty year old. Listen, he's really

762
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: important to the Bills, and if you're gonna get him

763
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: out of here, you're gonna have to pray him out

764
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: of here with a crowbar, or you're gonna have to

765
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: be so desperate like the Eagles presumably are to pay that.

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00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: That's this deal doesn't get done unless it's for a

767
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: high price. To me, it does not get done unless

768
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: it's for a knock my socks off price, because he's

769
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: that important to this club and we're five games in.

770
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: I believe me, I see exactly what you're saying. What

771
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: if they're four and three at the trade deadline, then

772
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna trade him. I'm saying, what if they win

773
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: the next two games? Murder I finish. What I'm saying

774
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: is his importance of this team might be diminished if

775
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: the team is on its way to not having a

776
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: playoff type year. Now you gotta think, well, maybe you know,

777
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: we have this asset that these guys, these Eagles really want,

778
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: and we could make ourselves better this year. Said yeah,

779
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: it's a sacrifice for this year. There's no question about that.

780
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: I think it's a really interesting call that Brandon Bean's

781
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: gonna have to make a second round for a thirty

782
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: year old running back. Get it. I'll tell you what, though,

783
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: you're right, I think, to me, it doesn't get done

784
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: this week or next week. I mean, if if the

785
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: Bills can get to the Indianapolis game and win the

786
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: next two, they're four and three, three, and that would

787
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: be and I think for a lot of people looking

788
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: at those first seven games, five of which you're gonna

789
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: be on the road and coming out four and three,

790
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: people are gonna sit down and think about that for

791
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: a minute, because I don't think anybody expected that. I

792
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: think that's then it's like, Okay, well wait a minute,

793
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: now we got a shot here. You know, that's it's

794
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: gonna take that. I mean, you come out of this

795
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: first seven games, five, five of them on the road,

796
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: against four of the best quarterbacks, four the teams that

797
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: we had in the first four games of the season,

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00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: and come out of that four and three. That's that

799
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: makes you do a double take. I don't know if

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00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: anybody anticipated that, And so I think right exactly had

801
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: a long way to go. Now what if they yeah,

802
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: now what if they dropped the next two, you know,

803
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: and they're too what would that put them two and five?

804
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: Well maybe then you got a different conversation. Maybe, And

805
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: again they might not have the luxury of waiting. Right

806
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: the Eagles could say, hey, and we know what the

807
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: tape trade deadline is. Deadline is this date, you know,

808
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: before October thirtieth. We'll talk more about this a break here.

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Speaker 1: The Bills on the practice field, John Murphy, Seve Tasker

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Speaker 1: inside our one Buffalo Studio, Bills getting set to play

814
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. All kinds of trade rumors about Lashawan

815
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: McCoy today. Sean McDermott would not put those to bed,

816
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Speaker 1: saying that he won't go into much detail one of

817
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: our better players. They get calls so all the time

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00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: about players, of course they do, and he wouldn't go

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Speaker 1: into much detail beyond that. That's our Twitter poll today.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at that. Our Twitter poll deals

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Speaker 1: with the Lashawan McCoy trade rumors. What would we know

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00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: what it will mean for the Eagles, right, they need them,

823
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: they need a running back. But what would training Leshawn

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00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: McCoy for the Buffalo Bills. That's what we're looking to

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Speaker 1: get from you. The Twitter poll is up fifty six

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Speaker 1: percent of you. Fifty three percent of you say it

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Speaker 1: would mean the return is too good to ignore, which

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Speaker 1: I think you also, you're probably settling that up as

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Speaker 1: a condition better get a lot in return. Steve says,

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Speaker 1: second would be your threshold, right, second round pick. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you ever seen that. No, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd do it for a second,

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00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: even for at this point. Really, yeah, there's they're in this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not You're not going to get better trading him,

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Speaker 1: but you'll get way way better if you get two

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00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: and a three and next year's draft, it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven percent of you say trading McCoy would mean

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00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: the Bills are giving up on this season. Fifteen percent

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00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: say trading him would mean that the Bills sink that

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00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory and Marcus Murphy are good enough. By the way,

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00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: Murphy is healthy practice on a full time basis last week.

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00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: I think that choice. I think that choice also means

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00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: the rest of the roster. They think they can win

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00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: games with every everybody that's left on their roster, not

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00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: just Murphy and Ivory, but I mean they beat Minno.

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Speaker 1: And there's something people are chiming in about that too.

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00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: From sipping the kool aid, he says, you know, I

848
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: voted others since he couldn't commit to the other choices.

849
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: Last year, when we traded Watkins, Darius and Darby, I

850
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: thought we were cashing in. But being McDermott are like

851
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: mcgiver and his Swiss army knife, making something out of

852
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: what is apparently nothing and nothing meaning nothing about this

853
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: trade would surprise him, even trading away LaShaun McCoy and then,

854
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, ostensibly winning as many games as you would

855
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: with him. I don't know if he believes that could

856
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: happen or not, but he's right. I mean, this is

857
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: a club that with the quintessential overachievers last year going

858
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: nine and seven, getting into the playoffs, and trading away

859
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: some really good players. I don't know, there's this interesting.

860
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: This Lashaw McCoy thing is so interesting on so many levels.

861
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: He's thirty years old and he's still playing really good,

862
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: and he got him for another year after this year,

863
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: and I would think, and I know everybody agrees with me,

864
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: I think this is just me. I think he's gonna

865
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: be good this year and next year. How can you

866
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: say that, because I see I just didn't don't see

867
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: any downgrade. And I've heard people say running back of

868
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: Lashawn's style. When they reach the end, they reach it

869
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: really quick, you know. So it might be this season,

870
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: he comes back next year and he's just not as

871
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: good all of a sudden. But I don't know that

872
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: that happens. But for right now, he looks like he's

873
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, he looks twenty seven to me. You know,

874
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: he looks twenty six to me. He looks good. No

875
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 1: sign of aging yet. But you know, at age thirty,

876
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: you gotta believe that's right around the corner somewhere, and

877
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: certainly coming up on the clare even more likely. I

878
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: agree with sipping the kool age final line there. Nothing

879
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: would surprise me. Nothing would surprise me either. I think

880
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: we've learned that from beating in McDermott. Right. They are

881
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: active traders. They are active in the trade market. They

882
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: try dramatic moves to improve their team, both the long

883
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: term and short term. I mean a year ago, we

884
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: were still reeling at this time last year from the

885
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: trade away of Sammy Watkins and Ronald Darby. An effort

886
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: to move forward, and they did those and several other

887
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: moves in order to get in position to get the

888
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: guy they believe is their franchise quarterback. So if they

889
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: think they can get better, they have demonstrated that they

890
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: will make those moves. We'll find out from Brian Klein

891
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: on Twitter in response to our question what would trading

892
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy mean for the Buffalo Bills, Brian Klein writes

893
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: in McCoy is our offensive centerpiece, and the only way

894
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: I think the Bills would trade him would be if

895
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: he got an offer that he just couldn't turn down.

896
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: The lowest offer I'd take is a second round pick

897
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: for McCoy, which would be too high of an asking

898
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: price for just about anyone, for a running back, a

899
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: thirty year old running back. How would you feel if

900
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: the Bills gave away a second round pick for a

901
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: thirty thirty year old running back? Wouldn't you say? What

902
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: are they doing? I would and look and look. The

903
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: Eagles are in a different spot. I know that it's

904
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: a different situation with the different spot hoping they contend

905
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl. One of the callers earlier said, Hey,

906
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: it's just like Lashawn McCoy is kind of like Levon

907
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: Bell in the Pittsburgh seat. Not exactly, that's a different situation.

908
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: What was the asking price that the Steelers had well,

909
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: it was the second round pick right for Libyan Bell

910
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: last week. I don't know, I do not know, but

911
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's he's looking at fourteen point five million, right,

912
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: that's you know, I don't know, that's different to me.

913
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: Also from Nick, the Bills will be shipping out their

914
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: last true offensive weapon. Will be hard to root for

915
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: a team that keeps trading away our best talent and

916
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: to do what draft more or to trade up with

917
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: those picks for unproven picks. At some point, we need

918
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: to feel talent to win games. That's the point to win.

919
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: From Nick, and he's I think there's a lot of

920
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: people probably in that spot where listen, Okay, this is

921
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: all really really good, this process thing. I want to

922
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: see some return on these investments in our fure because

923
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm living in you know, two years ago, this is

924
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: the future I want. I want a little bit of that.

925
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: I understand. I feel a little bit of that, don't Yeah,

926
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: I think all of us do at one some point.

927
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: But I think as you go along, you make the

928
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: best possible deals at the at the moment you're living

929
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: in right then, and this, you know, if this turns

930
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: into a best possible deal. I think, even though it

931
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: does push some success down the future, if it makes sense,

932
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: if it's a good thing, if you're getting way good,

933
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: better value than you think you're getting from Lashawn McCoy,

934
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: you do make it. But man, oh man, I think

935
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: his price is high. I think the price is really high.

936
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: At this point you want to ask it that you

937
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: want to ask You don't accept anything but high point

938
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: livion Bell I look at It was a week and

939
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: a half ago, according to reports, Kevin Colbert, Seeler's general manager,

940
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: looking for at least a second round pick and a

941
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: good player in exchange for Livian Bell. Now Bell is

942
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: what twenty six years old, so that would be But

943
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: there's some baggage there too. Bell is looking You're looking

944
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: at a fourteen five cap hit and he's done at

945
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: the end of the year. You can't franchise him, right,

946
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, you'd have to sign him to a new

947
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: You gotta sign it, get his number, his number, and

948
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: his number is like north of fifteen million bucks, right, Really,

949
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: no wet for No, McCoy's contract is not cheap, and

950
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Eagles have done this work. But it's

951
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: not outrageous either. Really, where running backs are going six

952
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: points some baggage as well. It's six point one plus

953
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: in cash and a nine million dollars hit on the cap,

954
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: but you only have to pay whatever's left to the

955
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: six point one. McCoy has some bags and he's got

956
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: another year. Yeah, and he's got some off off the

957
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: field stuff's going on, which which has to if you're

958
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: training for him, you're gotta gotta check it out. Is

959
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: is that gonna burn us? It's an interesting question. It's, man,

960
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: this there's a lot of layers to this onion we're

961
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: talking about in this trade. All Right, we're gonna come

962
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: back and talk about it with Thurman Thomas, former Bills

963
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: running back, Hall of Fame running back. He'll sit right

964
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: over there and talk about us about this deal and

965
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: several other deals going on around the National Football League.

966
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: When we return, John Murphy's Deep Tasker, One Bill's Live

967
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive and this

968
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio Hills Radio Network Sports. The update

969
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive where the Buffalo Bills are practicing

970
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: outdoors in the sunshine today, their first real practice say

971
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: the week as they get set to play the Houston.

972
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: Texans injured safeties Mica Hide Raphael Bush both making progress.

973
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: According to head coach Sean McDermott. Both will be limited

974
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: today but making progress and at least one of them

975
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: could be ready to play on Sunday in Houston. McDermott

976
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: says he's very comfortable keeping three quarterbacks and Derek Anderson,

977
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: who was just signed to the roster yesterday the Bills,

978
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: and Anderson the Bills bringing a quarterback in with McDermot

979
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: says a lot of wisdom to help develop under the others.

980
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: He says the addition of Anderson does not change Nathan

981
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: Peterman's status. Peterman remains a number two and McDermott did

982
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: not sit down on the issues of regarding the trade

983
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: rumors of LaShaun McCoy. He did not dispel them, did

984
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: not go into much detail. He said, LaShaun is one

985
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: of our better players. We get calls about players all

986
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: the time, and that's about all mc would say about

987
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: both Lashan McCoy trade rumors. The Texans Bills opponents this

988
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: week their depth at corner getting even thinner after the

989
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: team put Cavon Webster on injured reserve yesterday. He was

990
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: playing in his first game since he tour as Achilles.

991
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: In a game against the Rams last December, he got hurt,

992
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: played just two snaps before the injuries. Houston already put

993
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: cornerback Kevin Johnson on IR. They'll be without cornerback Aaron

994
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: Colvin indefinitely. They're relying on former Bill Shariss Wright after

995
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: Webster's injury, and they've used safety Kareem Jackson in both

996
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: roles as well. Jacksonville Jaguars have been plagued by injuries

997
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: at running back. They've signed free agent Jamal Charles to

998
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: a one year deal. The move comes after number three

999
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: Corey Grant was put on injured reserve. Buffalo Sabers ready

1000
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: to return to the ice for another home game tomorrow,

1001
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: coming off the win on Monday with the Vegas Golden

1002
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: Nights four to two, Sabers opening Vacaback games, they go

1003
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: for three in a row on Thursday home against the

1004
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: Colorado Avalanche Tomorrow night to close out the four game

1005
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: season opening homestead face off seven o'clock. Last chance to

1006
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: see the Sabers on home ice and hill October twenty fifth,

1007
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: when they're home against Montreal. And that is the update

1008
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: from one Bill's Drive, John Murphy and Steve Tasker One

1009
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. We're presented by Colloid

1010
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: of Health, joined as we usually are on Wednesdays, by

1011
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame running back Thurman. Thomas Hi thurmant I were, yeah,

1012
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing great job. How are you? Thurman and I

1013
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: had a little spat during the break about the running

1014
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: back age. All right, we're gonna talk about Lashawan McCoy.

1015
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: We'll get to our little point of views agreement here. Well,

1016
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: let's start with that. Shawan McCoy is thirty years old

1017
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: and he's done. He's still the best. Say, he's still

1018
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: the best player on his football team. Absolutely, question about that. Yeah,

1019
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: but what does the future hold for Lashaw McCoy at

1020
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: age thirty? You comfortable saying he'll do this for three,

1021
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: two or three more years? The guys, the guy stays

1022
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: in great shape, yes, yeah, and then and he never

1023
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: gets hit and he never gets I mean not like

1024
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: you did. You could Barry Barry Sanders retired at thirty,

1025
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: and he was he had some gas, and he had

1026
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: some gas. Everybody was shocked when he right, everybody was shot.

1027
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: I look everybody. Oh, when you get to thirty, you're done. Well,

1028
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: I know a lot of quarterbacks that are in the

1029
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 1: National Football League that anywhere from thirty two to thirty

1030
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: five there are done. Don't even don't don't even fly

1031
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: that count there what studies talk about Okay, don't about

1032
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: the studies. I don't care what the science. I don't

1033
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: care what the science says about it. I just don't.

1034
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: I really don't. Okay, I'll tell the motion from you, right,

1035
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: that's right, okay, everybody. I mean, I got to thirty

1036
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: and I was still a productive Okay for at least

1037
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: three more years. Okay, it wasn't as productive that if

1038
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: you guys wanted me to be at twenty two, twenty three,

1039
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: and twenty four. But I was productive, got first downs,

1040
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: picking up blitz and still doing that. Nobody complained about

1041
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: that when I was thirty, and I agree McCoy's productive

1042
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: now at age thirty, yeah, exact, I think doesn't have

1043
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: problem is how long can you protect what out? If

1044
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: you're making a great if your team, if your team

1045
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: is getting better, if your offensive line is getting better,

1046
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna be productive. He will be And who cares

1047
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean for this scenario about you know this thing

1048
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: with Philadelphia. Who cares about next year? You're trying to

1049
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: win games this year, and I think a little of

1050
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: forget about the production next year or when everybody he's

1051
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: the best player on your offense period, forget about what

1052
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: his future holds or what his past has been. Doesn't

1053
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: it come down to how important he is today? Yes,

1054
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: I think we saw that last time. I think the

1055
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: last time I was owner, I said he need to

1056
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: get the ball at least twenty five times, and he

1057
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: did and that was and he was productive. And I'll

1058
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: tell you the truth too, from my point of view,

1059
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: the only reason he didn't was because the scoreboard was

1060
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: out of hand. I mean, he's still in their game plan.

1061
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: He they can't always and I said this last segment,

1062
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: they it's best when they hand it to him, because

1063
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: if if you're going to throw it to him, you

1064
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: still got a rookie quarterback trying to throw it. And

1065
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: he made you know it's not all that reliable. You

1066
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: gotta be in a position to hand it to the guy.

1067
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: Him and Chris Ivory and Marcus and perfect. Those two

1068
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: guys have done excellent, absolutely absolutely when they've done the

1069
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: past couple of games. When if they've won even though

1070
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: Lashawn wasn't there in the Minnesota game. Chris Abby was

1071
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: that guy. He wasn't Kenny Davis, the guy that you've

1072
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: got to be in a position on the scoreboard to

1073
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: hand it to him. Yea, to give him their touches.

1074
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't think at this point you want Josh Allen

1075
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: throwing the ball for the fifty times. The rumor is

1076
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles are interested in training for Lashawan McCoy. We

1077
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: know why. Yes, he's thirty years old, but they need

1078
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: a running back and they consider themselves Super Bowl contenders.

1079
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: But what does it do for the Bills? That's our

1080
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: Twitter poll, Thurman. Check out our Twitter poll. What does

1081
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: training Leashan McCoy mean to the Buffalo Bills? More than

1082
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: half of our respondents so far, Fifty two percent say

1083
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: it means that the return was too good to ignore,

1084
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 1: that they were getting too much in return. Twenty seven

1085
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: percent say it means the Bills are given up on

1086
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: the current season, sixteen percent say it means that Chris

1087
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: Ivory and Marcus Murphy are good enough to get by.

1088
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: Five percent have something else in mind. What do you

1089
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: think and not actually about the Eagle? I know why

1090
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles would do that. But first of all, you're

1091
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: sweating like a Lon sprinkler. Well, all right, turn it

1092
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: out on it. Well, Murphy got me fired up before

1093
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: I came. I know you, Yeah, I was everything said

1094
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: about it. I walk in here, they're talking about running backs,

1095
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: said about three cents. Thurman was screaming at the top

1096
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: of his lungs. And oh my gosh, it doesn't take

1097
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: much to push What would he say? He's metabolism? You think?

1098
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: Does it mean that twenty eighteen is over? Wow? That's

1099
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: a tough one, isn't it. Yeah? One, see, it adds

1100
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: a tough one there. I mean, because what if they

1101
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: do get a real high price for him. I don't

1102
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: you kind of have to make that deal? What what

1103
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: is the high price? You tell me? That's still tough

1104
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: to figure out. Ye, like a number six it is.

1105
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: It has to be a second round player, right, so

1106
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: it has So that was me out for you. What

1107
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: about a second rounder? And wouldn't you say, like, I'll

1108
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: take a second round, but you gotta throw in a

1109
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: player like you gotta give me a corner. Steelers, by

1110
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: the way, reportedly have said that for Levion Bell they

1111
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: need a second rounder and a player. But that's different Levion.

1112
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: You got a big cap number to swallow, right, Levion's

1113
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: more Yeah, and he's twenty six. I know you don't

1114
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: and I think he's worth it, and you gotta sign

1115
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: him then too, right, you gotta sign him to that.

1116
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: We'll go ahead and sign him. What does this thing?

1117
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: Would not sign it? Signing running backs like Donald Jones?

1118
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: You say all the ways on this show. You're here

1119
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: to get the biggest deal possible at the peak of

1120
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: your career, make as much money as you possibly can.

1121
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: So what's wrong with Levion Bell trying to go get

1122
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: as much money? He's a possibly nothing because he's twenty six?

1123
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, did he leade a league

1124
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: in Russia last year and had like eighty say just

1125
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: say it's the best guy just says he's the best guy,

1126
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: says the best white Pam. That's fine, Damn, I guess

1127
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. That's I get there. I'm stay sick

1128
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: of his of Oh you get to this point, you

1129
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: got so much yardage on you. It means they're offering

1130
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: him fourteen point five million bucks where you that's how

1131
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: he wants guaranteed you guaranteed money and I want to

1132
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: be a foot taller. Hey look yeah, okay. In my

1133
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: entire thirteen years that I played, I don't bottle money

1134
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: that I made was fourteen million dollars, right, I know, right, listen, listen,

1135
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: you got god. I say, you can say whatever you want,

1136
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: but that's a hard number to crack for certain positions.

1137
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you can say what you want, and he's

1138
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: an important player, but I don't know that I throw

1139
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars that want to see this and you're

1140
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: gonna get guys throwing for twenty five touchdowns, Well, you're

1141
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: gonna get madt me again, Thurman. Teams don't put the

1142
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: same value on running backs that they do several other positions. No,

1143
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: I do. No, That's why I believe that too. But

1144
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: the guy's been productive. Pay him, I think were there

1145
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: they paid him. They're not paying him position in league.

1146
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: They're not paying him like every other position that they're

1147
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: paying in the National Football League. When you talk about

1148
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: the running backs, they're at the freaking bottom, well at

1149
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: the bottom bottom. You never cover kids bro left left tackle, quarterbacks,

1150
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: wide receiversers, defensive back corners. I mean more than I

1151
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: mean make more than they make, more than safety make.

1152
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 1: The tackles they make more than safeties. Who I don't

1153
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: know if I don't think that's true. Tasker, who's the

1154
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: who's the uh? The guy in Seattle that's didn't like

1155
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: his deal signed a five year, forty million dollars deal

1156
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: and camp Chance is making ten million dos dollars a year. Okay,

1157
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: he's in the last year of a four year deal

1158
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: that was not even there anymore. Well, he's broken out,

1159
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: broke the Okay, look at Thomas or Thomas in last

1160
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: year's Seattle didn't even want to pay him. Hey, look

1161
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: what happened to him. He's done for the year. Dudes

1162
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: want to get their money. A girl Thomas against want

1163
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: to get their money. Man, I get eight again, and

1164
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: he's one of the top three safe listen to National.

1165
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: Teen million dollars is a lot of money, particularly for

1166
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: guys after taxes and all that stuff. Don't get on

1167
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: because when you because when people here, fourteen million dollars,

1168
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: that's what they here. Yeah, he'll walk away with seven, eight, eight,

1169
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: he'll walk away eight. Okay, Well let me walk away

1170
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: with eight for about five more years. That'll be fine. Well,

1171
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: they are they've been paying him. They paid him fifteen

1172
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: fourteen last year thirteen. Okay, you have not really addressed

1173
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: what they traded mccoyy went being off on a tangent here,

1174
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: you thinking you've not really what what would it mean

1175
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: if the Bills trade away? Lashaw McCoy, You don't want

1176
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: to see it. I don't want to see it, really,

1177
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: but I understand that for the trade deadline three weeks away,

1178
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: if we're there and the Bills are kind of slugging

1179
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: along and maybe winning one and losing two and and

1180
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: there's a good off for it has to be a

1181
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: good offer from the Eagles. I don't know about a

1182
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: second rounder, but a pretty good offer. You might have

1183
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: to consider trading away. McCoy. Yeah, you might, Yeah, you

1184
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: might have to. Like, like I keep saying, I don't

1185
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: want to see it, but I think you have to

1186
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: also look at the situation with the Philadelphia Eagles too.

1187
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: How are their season going to be going up until

1188
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: the trade deadline? Right? And yeah, I mean they got

1189
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 1: maybe we're talking about going back to the super Bowl,

1190
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: and even in that division, nine wins might get you

1191
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: that division anyway, So how will they be all the

1192
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: way up into the trade deadline. I mean, does Carson

1193
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: Wiz going out again? Nick Vols come in? You got

1194
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: the factor into all those things like that. So it's tough.

1195
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: It's a tough position of being. I know Brandon Bean

1196
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermot and probably I mean it's like, well,

1197
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: this is what we have to have in order to

1198
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: trade him, right, no more, no less, we have to Right.

1199
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: If they say that's what we have to have, that

1200
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: means they're pricing up so we can't refuse it. That's

1201
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: the thing. They do not want to trade Lashawn McCoy

1202
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: a bottom line, they don't want to trade him. They're

1203
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: not looking to trade him. They think he's gonna be

1204
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: a productive back for the foreseeable future. And I agree

1205
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: with him. If they do trade him, what does that

1206
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: mean him? What then? What are we gonna see? Josh

1207
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: Allen now have to throw the ball forty times, Chris

1208
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: Ivory and Marcus Murphy, those guys have to step up.

1209
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: Its next guy up. And one of the callers said, well,

1210
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: you got to treat it like it's an injury. You

1211
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: can't sell that to the locker room. No, I mean

1212
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: that was our point. Those guys a game you didn't,

1213
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: he ain't injured. You just kicked him to the courage.

1214
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: Just kicked capt captain too. Who's been your best player

1215
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: here for last what four years? What's it say about? Yeah?

1216
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean it says something about your opinion about where

1217
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: they're headed for the rest of the year. I mean,

1218
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: they would never give up on a player they thought

1219
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: was going to help them get to the playoffs. You

1220
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, I'm just glad that

1221
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: we're sitting here and not over in the offices over

1222
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: making these decisions. It really is a tough decision that

1223
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: there is. I get the fielding. Also, the builds are

1224
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: in a good position here. They have an asset that

1225
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: somebody wants, somebody really and he's playing good. Yeah, and

1226
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna wait and see how badly do you want

1227
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: that asset? You know, he could go all the way

1228
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,479
Speaker 1: to the trading deadline. And what if he's being well

1229
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: at the trading deadline? Yeah, then you know that goes up. Yeah. Now,

1230
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it goes to a first rounder,

1231
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: but I think it goes to maybe a second and

1232
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: a third rounder and maybe a player. You and I

1233
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: are the same thing. I think he is gonna be

1234
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: playing good at the trap. I think he's gonna continue.

1235
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna play good all year. He's a good player

1236
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: and he has shows no signs of having what's he

1237
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: wear and tear on him like he's not quick, he's

1238
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 1: not explosive. He's making he's making fifteen guys miss a game.

1239
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: I got a text for him another day and I

1240
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you got got twenty four carriage you

1241
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: know that? And yeah, he was in his response, well

1242
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm still rusted. I'm just getting started. That was this

1243
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: text back to me that, Yeah, so he could play

1244
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: the first couple of games out there exactly pass pro.

1245
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: And that's his mindset. That's you know, he's I think

1246
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Fame player. Yeah, I do, and

1247
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: I I'll tell you he's if they get if they

1248
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: if the defensive this team can keep the scoreboard in sight.

1249
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: For the offense, he's gonna get a number of carries.

1250
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: Him and Chris ivery are going to carry the team offensively.

1251
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: He will get yards. And they're stacking the buck. Yeah,

1252
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: and they're stacking about tell you what, the offensive line

1253
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: is playing better than they get better than they are. Yeah,

1254
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: this is the offensive line is much better. I don't

1255
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: know if you can say it's about every offensive line,

1256
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: but this one. Certainly they're better in the run game

1257
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: than they are in the pass game. He makes them better.

1258
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he makes them Like he's Elijah Pitt. You

1259
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: always to tell us you got five offensive linement and

1260
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: you gotta tie it in. That's six right there. If

1261
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Speaker 1: they have eight in the box, you gotta make a

1262
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: couple of miss And that's what he does right there. Yeah,

1263
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: I have some bad news for you about salaries from

1264
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: spot tracker. Oh here we go. No, you're right, you

1265
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: just will not get off of No, no, I want to.

1266
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: I think you were right about this. The average NFL

1267
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: salary this year for running backs one point five million,

1268
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: fullbacks one million. And then it's, um, what's the average

1269
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: one running back? One point five million, Average for a

1270
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: kicker two million, average for a punter one point four million.

1271
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, it goes fullback. We're from the bottom up fullback,

1272
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: punder running back right run to a quarterback average seven

1273
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: million for quarterbacks and that means all the guys nine million.

1274
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is the whole decision. Whole position group,

1275
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: whole position group. One point nine million for tight ends. Still,

1276
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: look where we're at. You're almost at the bottom. You

1277
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: almost had the bottom. Only fullbacks and punters are paid

1278
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: less than Look, and I didn't make that. Let me

1279
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: tell you what. I'll tell you this. One of the

1280
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons for that is when

1281
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: when we're all kids growing up through youth football, all

1282
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: that you get quarter actually the best guy. It always

1283
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: used to be the best guy used to be the

1284
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: running backs and stuff. He had a lot of great athletes.

1285
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: You always want to give those guys the football, right,

1286
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: You always want to have them with their hands on

1287
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: the ball, So they grow up being that guy with

1288
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: his hands on the ball. Now it's starting to be

1289
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: the guys. They're putting him a quarterback now more often

1290
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: as well. But now all the really good guys play

1291
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: running back. And it used to be you know, you

1292
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: had Kenny Davis. I mean, Kenny was a really good back.

1293
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: Now we've got Chris Ivory. It seems like the drop

1294
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: off between the guys that are making fourteen million, like

1295
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: a Levon Bells are not as great as there because

1296
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: then you got guys like Alvin Kamara down in New Orleans,

1297
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: who's having a great career in his second year, you know,

1298
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: and that so there's there's a bunch of guys that

1299
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: and it's not that much different from a guy making

1300
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: fourteen million to a guy making one point five. So

1301
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: teams are like, well, you know, it's not that big

1302
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: a drop off. Let's just say, you know, I think

1303
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: it's it's less of number of the guys now that

1304
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: our third that are first, second and third down backs, right,

1305
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: A lot of more persist, a lot of more specialization

1306
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: at that running back position. And I think that's what's

1307
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of what's got the number

1308
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: down is that you don't have you know, a Ricky

1309
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: wall And playing third Barry Sanders, So you don't have

1310
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: those guys. The coaching staffs, coaching staffs and the organizations

1311
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: are feeling pressure. When they got forty five guys on

1312
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: game day. They got to get them all involved, right,

1313
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: and they got to get value at every spot that

1314
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: if you're not if you're not playing third down, you're

1315
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: covering kicks, or if you're not right, you know you've

1316
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: got to be You've got to get on the field.

1317
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: You've got to get on the field and contribute somehow someway,

1318
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: and I think that's what we've learned over the past

1319
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: couple of years here when I've heard Sean McDermot talk

1320
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: about well and we've heard some Marcus Murphy was inactive

1321
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: last week and right exactly, and that's a guy's healthy

1322
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: and he was healthy. But you've seen and heard before

1323
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: Jet some guys can't play special teams. Yeah, and if

1324
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: you haven't an opportunity to play special teams, you're probably

1325
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: gonna be active, and sometimes you're probably not going to

1326
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: be active. So, I mean, it's I think the game

1327
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,959
Speaker 1: has just changed so much from when we played into

1328
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: what is being played at and it's changed a ton

1329
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: for when we played, from the guys before us to

1330
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: play in the generate exactly generation it's completely different. Yeah,

1331
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean, what in ten years now, you're probably not

1332
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna have kickoffs. No, that'll keeps They'll say it. It's

1333
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: different now, different, it's different, different now, it's way different

1334
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: now before you know it. You know, you got the

1335
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: kicker who can now what line up ten yards behind

1336
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, Well, he's probably gonna have to

1337
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: that blind enough five who knows what it's gonna be

1338
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: second phone call on the McCoy topic while Thurman is

1339
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: here with us Franco and Rochester. Hello Franco, go ahead, Harris, Hi, Hi, Hey,

1340
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: I want to I just want to say that UM

1341
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: McCoy has been a great player for many years. Love McCoy,

1342
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: but I just I feel like he just goes down

1343
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: too easy now he can't get those extra a couple

1344
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: of yards that um Ivory to get. His production has

1345
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: been great, but I just I think the time for

1346
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: a trade is perfect. He's at thirties. I think you

1347
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: can get the most value for him now, and with

1348
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: the offense we run in comparison to like there's so

1349
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: many weapons on that offense where it opens up more

1350
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: lanes for him because of a McCoy's stature, It's like

1351
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: it reminded me of Spiller, Like anytime he gets cutted

1352
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: in the hole, he just goes straight down. Ivory can

1353
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: push through for two or three extra yards and still

1354
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: has and you know, and can make guys missus why.

1355
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's more of a pounder runner,

1356
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: but I just I don't see the huge, the huge

1357
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: benefit of having McCoy right now with the with the

1358
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: offense that we run, I think we can get some

1359
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: good value. I just saw it right now, and some

1360
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: of the video will show what you're talking about. Going down,

1361
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: he got three guys on him, Franco. I mean you

1362
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: could he every guy on the Titans defensive roster is

1363
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: on the video. You make getting miss, and Leshaun's making

1364
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: a miss. I mean he's made every guy on the

1365
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: defense at one point in that game less miss. And

1366
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: you not every back does that, even Chris Ivory doesn't

1367
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: do that. Um So, Leshaun is so slippery, and that's

1368
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: one of the reasons. And we've set a time and

1369
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: time again, we've all seen him run. He never gets

1370
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: a hard shot. Um yeah, he goes he does go down,

1371
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: but he goes down. Yeah. After he goes down when

1372
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: he's done getting yard exactly, that's it. And and most

1373
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: guys that try to get that extra yard what usually

1374
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: happens sometimes Yeah, Yeah, he gets a ton of dragged

1375
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: down tackles. He never gets hit. They'll drag him down,

1376
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: but they don't hit him. You know what I'm saying.

1377
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: He never takes a shot. And that's why he's so durable.

1378
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 1: And I I knew this was an attribute of yours

1379
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 1: as well. He's always available. You can say, well, he

1380
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: missed a game this year with a rib, but he

1381
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: was back after one game. I mean, the guy is

1382
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: always on the field, always on the fifth, He's always

1383
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: on there. There's been some shots that he's taken since

1384
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: he's been here where I'm like, he's not going to

1385
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: get up. And the shot he took was by his

1386
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: own guy, I mean, his his offensive lineman got rolled

1387
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: up behind him and dropped on his ribs and it

1388
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: was a Fluke play are you here Sunday did? Yeah,

1389
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: I met. I just occurred to me and talking about

1390
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: making people miss and I said it to Kelso on

1391
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: our broadcast about there was a Chris Ivory run where

1392
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: he kind of turned himself sideways to get through the hole.

1393
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? And I said to Kelso on

1394
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: the air he kind of looked like Thurman on that

1395
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: you were a master at that kind of getting yourself

1396
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: small if you had to be, or turning yourself to

1397
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: the side to get through the hole. Ivory did it

1398
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: the other day. And I said to Kelso that that's

1399
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: like a Thermon Thomas move. You know that. Do you

1400
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: remember the playing time the second half of the play.

1401
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: But that's like a unique skill, right to be able

1402
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: to go sideways and still be moving forward. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1403
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: Ivory did it together. Yeah he did. And you know,

1404
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: and I think I do remember that play now, yeah,

1405
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: And and I think at that time little thrum My

1406
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: son said he looked at me, and I was like,

1407
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: yeah kind of yeah right, so I saw the same Yeah. Yeah.

1408
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: It's a young firm. So hey, we Thurm and chare

1409
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: for a few more minutes. We got to get to

1410
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: you to talk about your buddy, Drew Brees. Monday Night

1411
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: football a huge night for him with the new touch

1412
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: or not. Well, he's got five hundred touchdown passes, but

1413
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: more importantly, he's got the new record for passing yard.

1414
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: It to you all time leader passed Peyton Manning the

1415
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 1: other day and he did it in such magnificent style. Touchdown.

1416
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: What did you think when you watch it? Unbelieved? I mean,

1417
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean, after you got the right, I went to sleep.

1418
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: I went to sleep. I've been noring Drew for man

1419
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: a number of years. Actually met him my first time

1420
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: when I went into the Texas Football Hall of Fame,

1421
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: and uh, and he was I can't remember if he

1422
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: was still in high school. I think he was like

1423
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: a senior in high school. Really. That was like in

1424
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: late night. Yeah, it was really Yeah, it was real late.

1425
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: And he was like, you're my favorite player growing up.

1426
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, thanks, Drew. You know, at that time,

1427
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was. And I was just

1428
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: a young kid, you know, saying that, you know, being

1429
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: from Texas, you know, and uh I texted him after

1430
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: the game and texting back and you know, saying thank

1431
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: you so much. You know, You've always been you know,

1432
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: one of my favorite guys. And uh, you know, and

1433
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: him and Britain and his kids. Man, unbelievable. So it's, uh, yeah,

1434
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: it was. It was great to see, especially for a

1435
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: guy who you know, under six foot, you know, from Purdue. Um,

1436
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: you know. And sometime I look at that as like,

1437
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: did the San Diego Charges really make the right moving draft? Right?

1438
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm like, you know, and and and

1439
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: for the teams that did not take a shot on him,

1440
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: when I guess some doctor said shoulders, his shoulders just dolphins, Yeah,

1441
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: dolphins doctor said that. Man. You know, yeah, I think

1442
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: goodness being Drew Brees and Drew Brees and Tom Braid

1443
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: in the same Yeah. So but no, just I was

1444
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: standing human being. I was standing football player, happy for him.

1445
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: And you hear it now he'll tell you this. Greg

1446
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 1: Williams was the head coach of the Bills at that time.

1447
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: He wanted he wanted Drew Brees bad. He wanted him bad.

1448
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: A lot of teams will a lot of teams tell

1449
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: you that now. Yeah, But Steph and I were talking,

1450
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: why does he get overlook Sometimes people talk about the

1451
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: all time great quarterback under the radar, right, I think

1452
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: he is under the radar a little bit. I don't

1453
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: know why. What is it? I don't know why. I

1454
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 1: don't know if it's because of the market that is.

1455
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 1: I think New Orleans is a great market. Yea city.

1456
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: It's a smaller city, but a great market. Um. I

1457
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,799
Speaker 1: just think you know when you when when you've played

1458
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: in an era with Brady Manning, Yeah, and even Philip

1459
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: Rivers and name a couple of other guys, he's been

1460
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: kind of over burger. Yeah, he's been kind of he's

1461
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: been kind of overlooked. I mean, and you know he's

1462
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: saved He saved New Orleans. I can definitely put it. Yeah,

1463
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: he saved the Yeah, Yeah, he came though. He was

1464
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 1: like sperational figure in that city, right. He built the

1465
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: Superdome and he and they said, there was a story

1466
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: they told on the on the broadcast the other night

1467
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: he brought ten civic leaders together and and pumped money

1468
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: out of him and matched it and said, listen, we're

1469
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: gonna do some projects to get this city back on

1470
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: his feet after Hurricane Katrina. I actually went down a

1471
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: couple of year or two after that the hurricane hit,

1472
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: and we were doing some hurricane leave even then, and

1473
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: people were like it was kind of off off the

1474
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: front burner from people around the country, but it was

1475
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,560
Speaker 1: still devastated down there, and he through all of that,

1476
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: getting back, getting the team back into New Orleans, having

1477
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: that Monday night game in the Superdome where they beat

1478
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: Steve Gleeson. Yeah. Also, I wish I was there. Yeah,

1479
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: it was so fun and he had a lot to

1480
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: do with that. His not just and I'm not saying,

1481
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think symbolically, you know, he was just

1482
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 1: kind of a community out front guy who said we're here,

1483
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: you know where, and it's six I think the city

1484
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: really he's been great, and I think one of the

1485
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: reasons why he's been kind of overlooked at that. Yeah,

1486
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: he's under six foot, but and he plays in a

1487
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: division which hasn't really been good right over the years,

1488
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: and he had some years where they were like seven

1489
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: and nine, like three or four years in a row.

1490
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean, there's been on seven or eight guys that

1491
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: have thrown for over five thousand yards, and he's had

1492
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: five of them. Seven there's been seven seasons, seven seas

1493
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: he got five of them. Yeah, so and those and

1494
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: part of the season have been when they've been seven

1495
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: and nine. And I think that's kind of taken away

1496
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 1: from what he's really a complim. I mean they said

1497
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: they've had great receivers down there. I mean some really

1498
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 1: great down receivers down You were down there in the summer, right,

1499
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: didn't visiting Drew Brees? Right, didn't you take your family?

1500
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: I went down to a game last year doing them

1501
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: during the Bills by week. Okay, here I went down

1502
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: to New Orleans. Yeah, hook me up in a suite.

1503
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 1: Excellent speaking to going to games? Are you going to

1504
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: this week's game in Houston? Yes? I will get your

1505
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: hometown right, Yeah, I'm when the schedule came out and

1506
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: the date came out, my mom was like, yeah, tickets,

1507
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: you get tickets up in the third row. She didn't

1508
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: care where the ticket award. Just make sure you are

1509
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: in Houston at that time. What's your plan? You're bringing

1510
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 1: family with you down? Yeah? I'm actually going today. What Yeah?

1511
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: My flight leaves at four fifteen, so I got a

1512
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: lot of time, spent a few days. Had any kids

1513
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: leaving Friday? You're going down early? Yeah, that's good my hometown. Yeah,

1514
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm with you, my mom. We're less than three weeks

1515
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 1: away now from two, three weeks away from your number

1516
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: being retired. Are you ready yet? I'm ready. Did you

1517
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: do your speech? I've already did my speech. Could you

1518
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: like to preview for it? Nope? How long is it?

1519
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: Four and a half minutes? Right? Cut it in half

1520
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: and get back now. I'm just getting It's like a

1521
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: high school project, rehearse in front of the mirror. Did

1522
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: it good? You like your speech? Yeah? I like it? Yeah,

1523
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's a speech you gotta be pumped for

1524
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:10,480
Speaker 1: this day. It's yeah, it's not day. It's like festivals.

1525
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: It's like Thurman Thomas week, like everybody's all the old

1526
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: guys tell you, right, let's win this game against the texts,

1527
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: and let's win this game against the coach again. And

1528
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: then all yeah, I did see a picture. There's some

1529
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: special new era caps to commemorate a nice you have

1530
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 1: one of these. I don't have any. You don't have any, No,

1531
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: not yet. They just like all your old teammates can

1532
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: get boxes away. I don't know. I may, I may,

1533
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: I may give I may switch it around and give

1534
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: something to the media, don't those who don't believe exactly. Yeah, well, Thurman,

1535
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: have a great time in Houston. We'll talk to you

1536
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: here next week. All right, appreciate it, Thank you. I

1537
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: can't wait. It's gonna be a fun night. It's gonna

1538
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: be a fun night. Yeah, exactly, Thurman Thomas, Hall of

1539
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: Famer in studio, whether Steve and I back with more

1540
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bills Drive. And this is

1541
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one of those live

1542
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: Jim Urphy's Steve Tasker. Thanks again to Thurman Thomas. I'm

1543
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: glad he's going to the Bills game in Houston on Sunday.

1544
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 1: We'll have some fresh hot takes next week. When he

1545
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 1: joined us about the Bills and the Texans looking forward

1546
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 1: to this game. Steve, I started digging into the Texans

1547
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: last night. Look, they got the same record as the Bills.

1548
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: They've had some ups and downs, ups the last couple

1549
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: of weeks. But this is a this is a winning

1550
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: game on the docket here for the Bills. This is

1551
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: a winnable game. I should say, yeah, you'd think so.

1552
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: But I was thinking about all the teams in the league,

1553
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: which there are maybe what twenty four teams in the

1554
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: league that are two and three, three and two. Yeah,

1555
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: twenty four teams are two and three, three and two.

1556
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean they're they got three wins or two or three,

1557
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: and you go down the list, and all of them

1558
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: have ridden quite a roller coaster. The Bills included. You

1559
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: have that big you have the down. You start the

1560
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: season on the down in the first two weeks, then

1561
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: you have the big up in Minnesota, you drop back

1562
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: down against very you're back up against the Titans. I mean,

1563
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: it's been kind of a roller coaster. It's been the

1564
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: same for all these teams with two and three wins,

1565
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: and the Texans are the same type of team. They've

1566
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: had some close games. Their offense are is getting a

1567
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: ton of yards, but they're only eighteenth the scoring, you know,

1568
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: so their red zone hasn't been good, but they've gotten

1569
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: a ton of yards. They moved the football, they got

1570
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: a they got a bunch of first downs. They got

1571
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: eighty first downs by the pass. I mean they are.

1572
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: They're doing some good things offensively, and of course, you

1573
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: know their defensive front with JJ Watt and Jadeveon Clowney,

1574
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: they can get after the passers. So this is a

1575
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: game against a team that is a little bit like um,

1576
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, the team's in the NFL. They're they're a

1577
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: little bit of a roller coaster and it depends. I

1578
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: think they're probably gonna be pretty good at home. Yeah,

1579
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: and the Bills have had issues down there in the past.

1580
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that game. We will focus a

1581
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: lot on that game as the week goes along. Determined,

1582
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: I am at least not to get kind of too

1583
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: torn away by the trade rumors regarding Lashawn McCoy, But

1584
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: the Bills running back Lashawan McCoy is the subject of

1585
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: trade rumors involving the Philadelphia Eagles. Sean McDermott said very

1586
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: little about it today other than he did not rule

1587
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: it out and McCoy just wrapped up a quick media

1588
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 1: session after practice. Practice is over, Shitty McCoy at the podium.

1589
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: Here's what he had to set about the trade rumors

1590
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: involving him and the Eagles. Uh, I heard about it.

1591
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 1: I just I kind of stay focused, you know, and uh,

1592
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: the job at tennis at hand. I'll let that stuff

1593
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 1: work itself out. I mean, we'll see what happens, you know,

1594
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: whether or not Cole was actually made. I'm not gonna,

1595
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, get into that. Um, that's for my agent

1596
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 1: and the guys upstairs to work that out. Something like

1597
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,560
Speaker 1: that does happen to you if you contact organization or

1598
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: Sean Man and just kind of get a feelful what

1599
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: is going on and get uh yeah, I mean sometimes yeah, um,

1600
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: but this particularly when I just left left alone. How

1601
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: would you feel about Tea. I'm not gonna uh even

1602
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: engaged the whole questions about you know, the trade. We'll

1603
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: see what happens. When you saw that Ji was hurt, though,

1604
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: did you expect that something might burt away there? Just

1605
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: given your history with them and they need a running

1606
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: back right now. Probably, to be honest, I never, you know,

1607
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: pay too much attention to it when he got hurt.

1608
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: I kind of found out about it late, you know,

1609
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: so you know how it is. I mean you're just

1610
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: worried about your team, worry about yourself. Um, I kind

1611
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 1: of got the news late at some point. Do you

1612
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: wish we could just talk about football and stuff like that?

1613
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: These things I always seemed to drop up. Other other

1614
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: things seemed to prop up. Just I just stay focused,

1615
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: stay focused. Uh. Last week was my Uh who's that

1616
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: right there? Oh? That's what's up there. It's a Hall

1617
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: of Fame ride. It's on some level. Um. Yeah, I

1618
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to it too much. I mean trade

1619
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: stuff and everything else. I should never have trade anyway.

1620
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: You know I was, I was killing stuff, you know,

1621
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: but I don't never really pay too much attention to it.

1622
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: This week out the Texans, I'm worried about that. Got

1623
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: a good defense, a lot of big name guys on

1624
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: that defensive line. So I got my hands full this week.

1625
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: Last week was my first week of really getting out

1626
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: there running, uh, trying to get some rust off. You know.

1627
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 1: I actually get gone player after play. It felt good. Shan.

1628
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: You've said already the publicly that you really think that

1629
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: Josh has got a future, Yes, league, do you think

1630
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, I know what, he's only four starts into

1631
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: his career. But given the emphasis on the running game

1632
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: and they really haven't let him do much in the

1633
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: passing game, is his development maybe being stunted a little bit?

1634
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 1: What do you mean he threw the ball with the

1635
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: first what two games he started? He threw the ball

1636
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: a lot Green Bay, throw the ball a lot, through

1637
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: the ball a lot the game before that. I think,

1638
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,759
Speaker 1: I mean he's a rookie, so it's hard to really judge.

1639
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean most teams, they they slowly grind him in

1640
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: and slowly get him gone. I think he's fine. I

1641
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 1: think he has a good quarterback coach, great office coordinator.

1642
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: I think Sean's the best coach for him. He's fair,

1643
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 1: he's tough on him. Man, the guy's limit for that kid.

1644
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: It's his big arm. He's smart, talented. I'm a fan

1645
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: of Josh, and I think that, uh, he has learned

1646
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: to you know, small things. Other than that, he's he'll

1647
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: be a good player. You'll see after last week or

1648
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: the running game has kind of figured itself out. Now, Yeah,

1649
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: I think we'll I think we'll get going. Uh, we'll

1650
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: probably should have bigger plays some places I missed m

1651
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: guys that affronted it very well. Block well, So I

1652
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 1: think we'll do well with that, and uh, we'll add

1653
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: on to it. Get some play actions there, some different runs,

1654
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: get some more guys involved. The celebration with Josh. Is

1655
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: that's something you guys? Yeah, he went to Wyoming. He

1656
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 1: didn't really get a lot of style, a lot of swagger.

1657
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: So I'm helping him out with that. You're gonna get

1658
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 1: us some different moves, some different celebrations. Just another thing

1659
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: that McCoy brings to the table. A little style, a

1660
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: little swag where you're needed, including guys who went to Wyoming.

1661
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: Um interesting stuff from McCoy. Didn't say much about the

1662
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: trade rumor, says we'll see what happens, trying to stay focused.

1663
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: He was focused throughout most of that session with the

1664
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: media until all the famer Therman Thomas left our studio

1665
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: and walked out into the field out there, Hey, what's

1666
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: up there. Yeah, McCoy's didn't a kind of a weird

1667
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: spot here. I mean, he played so well for Philly.

1668
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: It was a huge surprise when he got traded by

1669
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly in that regime and you know, I remember,

1670
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, and he had alluded to it a little

1671
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: bit there. He said, yeah, he should have never gotten

1672
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: traded in the first place. A lot of people, a

1673
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: lot of people feel the same way. I know I did.

1674
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: When the trade happened, I was like, how did we

1675
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: get that guy? Yeah? Because I had covered him on

1676
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 1: Monday night games from the sidelines, and I remember earliness.

1677
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: I was like, who is that? And I remember talking

1678
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: to I've talked about this at length. When the trade

1679
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: happened here in Buffalo, I couldn't I can't believe they

1680
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: traded Lashawn McCoy um for Kiko Alonzo. It was unbelievable

1681
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 1: and um. So he alluded to it right there and said,

1682
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 1: you know, I probably should have never been traded. And

1683
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: he's right. You think about a guy for Hall of

1684
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: Famer getting traded for a linebacker um coming off a

1685
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: knee injury like Kiko Alonso was. I mean it was

1686
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: Hall of famer? Who cheaty? I think so? I really yeah,

1687
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: I think so. He'll hat now listen, I think he is.

1688
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,759
Speaker 1: But he's got to be He's got to get some numbers.

1689
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: He's got to get to he's gotta get to the twelve.

1690
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: I think twelve twelve thousand will do it. But he's

1691
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 1: he's not going to be done after this year. I

1692
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: don't think. I think he's gonna be playing a playing

1693
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: for other teams. I ever told you that right now.

1694
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna I think, at me, I think

1695
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: Lashawn is a Hall of Fame quality player. And I

1696
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: think even if things don't go well for him here

1697
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: this year with Buffalo, if he doesn't, you know, get

1698
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 1: a thousand yards or whatever, he ends up with seven hundred,

1699
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards, He's got a lot of miles on

1700
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: him left to give, and I think he's going to

1701
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: get everything out of it. And I think either for

1702
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills or for somebody, he's gonna be playing

1703
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: a lot like Frank Gore did this last year. He's

1704
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: in Miami, playing pretty well for them. What are your

1705
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: thoughts on their reports, the rumors about a Leashaun McCoy trade.

1706
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 1: What do you think? What do the Bills stand to

1707
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: gain or lose? Give us a call lines open eight

1708
01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: three fifty toll free one eight eight eight fifty two fifty.

1709
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: More from the tweet sheet. More from the phones coming up,

1710
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes in the next hour as well, and we'll

1711
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: hear from Josh Allen, I believe as well. So come

1712
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: on back. We got a lot of ground to cover here.

1713
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and this is

1714
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. We motor along. We're gonna have a

1715
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes schedule to join us in the third and

1716
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: final hour of the show. The Bills are off the

1717
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: practice field today, their first real day of practice. We'll

1718
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: get the injury report as I'm really eager to look

1719
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 1: at the Texans injury report today. See what they've got

1720
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: with the Shawn Watson Steven look. And you might be limited.

1721
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: And you insist he's gonna play, right, Oh I am?

1722
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: I am. Okay, I'm not even gonna start him on

1723
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: your fantasy team for all I care, because he's gonna

1724
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: be in the game. I mean, he's he's yeah, he's

1725
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Okay, all right, I hope you're wrong.

1726
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm telling you don't have to hope against him. I'm

1727
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 1: just you know, yeah I do. I'd like to see

1728
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: Brandon weedon play. I've always had a desire to watch

1729
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 1: Brandon weedon play. Could be this week our Twitter poll today,

1730
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: it's about the rumors about Leshaun McCoy, possibly some interest

1731
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. No concrete report, Sean McCoy or Sean McDermott

1732
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: didn't throw any water on it today. But what would

1733
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: trading Leshaun McCoy mean for the Bills? Look, we know

1734
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: what it means for the Eagles. They need them, they

1735
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,959
Speaker 1: need a running back. They are consider themselves super Bowl contenders.

1736
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: But what would trading Leshaun mcoin mean for the Buffalo Bills?

1737
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 1: On Twitter, we've had about fifteen hundred responses so far.

1738
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: More than half of the respondents say that it would

1739
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: mean that what the Eagles or whoever was offering was

1740
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: just too good to ignore. Fifty three percent say the

1741
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: return too good to ignore, Twenty seven percent say it

1742
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: would mean the Bills are given up on this season.

1743
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: Sixteen percent say it would mean that the Bills believe

1744
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: that Chris Ivory and Marcus Murphy are good enough to

1745
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: continue what they want to do, four percent of something

1746
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 1: else in mind. Let's know what you think. Give us

1747
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: a call eight oh three h five fIF toll free

1748
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty or

1749
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: tweeting a response on the Twitter poll or tweeting a response,

1750
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: and Steve's got some of them on the tweet sheet

1751
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, from a guy named Jello, I don't

1752
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: think sending McCoy away it necessarily means given up on

1753
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: the season. He's a great player, but the Buffalo Bills

1754
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: have one without him. Maybe not having McCoy as a

1755
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: security blanket on offense would force someone else to step up. Well,

1756
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. If they're gonna win, somebody else has

1757
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: got to step up. Chris Ivory, Marcus Murphy, all right,

1758
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 1: name it. There's a there's a look at the roster.

1759
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: Somebody would. I like Chris Rolex's response on Twitter on

1760
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, he says, the return has to be there.

1761
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: That's why we put it up. There is one of

1762
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 1: the respondent responses, a return too good. Chris Rolex says,

1763
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,600
Speaker 1: the return has to be there. I cannot see the

1764
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Bills letting McCoy go without making out like bandits on

1765
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 1: the deal. The leadership and experience he brings to an

1766
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: offense that doesn't have much of that is extremely valuable

1767
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: to Josh Allen. Experience for sure, making out like a bando,

1768
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 1: how do you what does that mean rounder in a

1769
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: player first rounder. Some people suggested, I don't see that.

1770
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: I don't see a second round here. Well again, and

1771
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: I didn't like to hear it. But it's a thirty

1772
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 1: year old running from Bills and Mets fan. It's a

1773
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 1: it's highway robbery. If we get a two and a three,

1774
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,759
Speaker 1: second round, third round raps at Phillies desperation reaps future

1775
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: rewards for the Bills. Wins this year, great, but it's

1776
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: more important to set us up for the next few years.

1777
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: And Shady can't possibly play at this high level for

1778
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: the next three or four years. Well not not impossible,

1779
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: maybe not likely, but not impossible. I mean, the guy

1780
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: looks good for this year. Um, and you know, it

1781
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: depends on how much how many eggs in the basket

1782
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 1: are you gonna put in for this year for Bills

1783
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: and Mets fan. But um, yeah, if you get a

1784
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: two and a three, I gotta take that. I might

1785
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 1: have to take that, Yeah, but then you're not gonna

1786
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: get it if you And that's where and that's where

1787
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: we're at really basically, if it's got to be one

1788
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: of those things where, oh my gosh, how can you

1789
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 1: say no? You know, how can you say no to that?

1790
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: And I would say, you know, there's only there's only

1791
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: maybe three guys. There's less than a handful of guys

1792
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: on the whole team where you would not take a

1793
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 1: two and three four, Josh Allen, Tradevious White, Micah Hi,

1794
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, Tremaine Edmonds, Tremaine Edmonds, There's a couple. There's

1795
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: maybe ten, I would say, but that's a different story

1796
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 1: for yeah, yeah, yeah, well okay, Yeah, here's the thing,

1797
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: and we talked about with Brownie a little bit at noon,

1798
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 1: and I gotta think through this, and it typically takes

1799
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: me some time off the here to think about this.

1800
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: Does the closer we get to October thirtieth, who gains

1801
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: leverage here? The Bills are the Eagles. I think initially

1802
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: you'd say the Bills do right, and I think they're

1803
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: smart right now to let them wait. But I do

1804
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: wonder if there's a point and that's why I talked

1805
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: earlier with you about how the dead depends. Yeah, it

1806
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: depends on how the Eagles play, how the Bills play.

1807
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: But I wonder if there's a point where the Eagles say, look,

1808
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: we gotta we can't wait until Game eight. You know,

1809
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: to get our guy. We we can't afford were what

1810
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 1: are the Eagles two and three? Right? We can't afford

1811
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 1: to wait that long? And that that might be the

1812
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 1: tipping point in this. I gotta make sure the Eagles

1813
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 1: are where they're playing Thursday night, They're playing tomorrow night. Right?

1814
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 1: They got the Giants amount Giants, Giants, Eagles. Yeah, but

1815
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 1: the Eagles, you know, I don't know. I'd like to.

1816
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: I gotta think a little bit harder about who gains

1817
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 1: leverage the longer this goes. Initially, you'd say the Bill, Yeah,

1818
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 1: the Eagles are two and three. Initially off the top

1819
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: of your head to say what the Bills do? Right, Yes,

1820
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,640
Speaker 1: that's true. But there may be a point where the

1821
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 1: Eagles say that's it, forget about it, and I We're

1822
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 1: going somewhere else, getting somebody else that we're playing without them,

1823
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 1: just because you know, are they willing to wait three

1824
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: more games without, you know, every fewer getting that they're

1825
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: trying to win this year. The Eagles are trying to

1826
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: get back to the Super Bowl this year. Every game

1827
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 1: they have to go without the running back, they want

1828
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,560
Speaker 1: the lessons their chances. That's an intriguing part of this

1829
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 1: for me, right, and and it's yeah, it is tomorrow night,

1830
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 1: Eagles Giants and Eagles two and three, Giants one and four,

1831
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: And you look at you know how urgent it's going

1832
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: to be for the Eagles to do that. Washington's two

1833
01:31:55,600 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 1: and two, and the and the Cowboys are too two

1834
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: and three, so you know, nobody's running off with that division,

1835
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 1: and the Eagles have time, right, So the next three

1836
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 1: days it could even get more desperate or less desperate,

1837
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 1: depending on what the rest of that division does. And

1838
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles right now are in the thick of it.

1839
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: So there's really no hurry for the Eagles to make

1840
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 1: that deal, right, I don't know, there's not that big

1841
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: at there's there's no hurry. I mean, they're two and three,

1842
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 1: they're ahead of the Giants and then they're dead even

1843
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 1: with the Skins and the Cowboys not like in the way,

1844
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: there might be some pressure to get it done. That's

1845
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 1: the question I got to think of. I think when

1846
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: they go three more games without their run, I think,

1847
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: in three more games, in three more games, then I think, yeah,

1848
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: if they're gonna make a move, they gotta make a

1849
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: move then, because it's obviously the deadline, and there's then

1850
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 1: the division will have more clarity as to who's running

1851
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 1: off with it or who's not. If they can keep

1852
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: maintaining there's no reason to give up a two and

1853
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 1: a three or a big price. Two wins and three

1854
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: losses for a division they could win. Two wins and

1855
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: three losses is not something they want to maintain. They're

1856
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: not playing well two and three, right, so keep maintaining

1857
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: what losing record dating. I don't know. I gotta think

1858
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 1: about it. I'm not sure. I do think. I know

1859
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,680
Speaker 1: the Bills are in a good position here today with

1860
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: the timing as it is, and I just want to

1861
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 1: I want to think about whether they're the Bill's leverage

1862
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 1: in this deal gets better in the next two and

1863
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 1: a half, right, Well, it does about you can think

1864
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: about it, and we got a lot of the people

1865
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 1: thinking about it too. Marcel Wilson tweets in even if

1866
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: the return is too good to ignore, quote unquote, it

1867
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: would make that mantra of winning today and tomorrow untrue.

1868
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 1: We already have a lower talent talented roster. I don't

1869
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: see how removing the best offensive player by a mile

1870
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 1: makes us better this year. It would be giving up

1871
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 1: on the twenty eighteen season in his opinion. So there's

1872
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 1: it's a really good point, right, it's a really good year.

1873
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how you yeah, right. You can't construe

1874
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 1: it any other way. You can't say we're gonna get

1875
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: better without LaShaun McCoy and he's right, you get and

1876
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 1: you can't be saying like, we're good enough this year

1877
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 1: at where you're sitting there at two and three, we're

1878
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 1: saying we're good enough without him this year to go

1879
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 1: ahead and win and get to the playoffs. And that's

1880
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: a hard stretch, right, That's that's what should be selling.

1881
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: And this is enough without Lashaw to get to the playoffs. Anyway,

1882
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: this fan base watched their team trade away a really

1883
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: talented receiver, underperforming but talented Sammy Watkins. And they watched

1884
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 1: their their team trade away a starting level cornerback Ronald

1885
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 1: Darby last year. Uh you know, so Darius had a

1886
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 1: basket full of issues that didn't and he didn't fit

1887
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: well in this group at all. Pretty talented player, playing

1888
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 1: pretty well for talented, but not high motored, highly motivated.

1889
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 1: He could be. But all I'm saying is this fan

1890
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 1: base has watched a lot of talent leaves. Nobody would

1891
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: dispute that, all in service of the process and the

1892
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 1: culture that they're trying to build here. Um, And you

1893
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 1: gotta say this, Unlike some of those three guys I

1894
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: just mentioned, Lashan McCoy has been a plus when it

1895
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: comes to team culture. He's a captain elected by his teammates. Um,

1896
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 1: and he's playing well. He's playing well. An Sammy Watkins.

1897
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins had moments he didn't play well. He had

1898
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: not producing. Marcel Darius got a big contract but then

1899
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 1: did not play well. M rond Ronald Darby played pretty well,

1900
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 1: although I mean he was replaced by E. J. Gaines

1901
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: to great effect, so it wasn't like he was um

1902
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 1: greatly missed they replaced him. I'm just I agree with

1903
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: Marcell Wilson in many respects. Um, how removing the best

1904
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: play offensive player makes this better this year? It does not.

1905
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: Nobody It's hard to argue that. And I think the

1906
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: question becomes, then, what's the margin of error become for

1907
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 1: the Bill's offense. It's got to be smaller and by

1908
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: and if they if they wait three weeks and all

1909
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Josh Allen starts throwing for two hundred

1910
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 1: yards a game instead of eighty. Well, then the margin

1911
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 1: of errors a little less. You know, if he starts

1912
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 1: completing sixty percent of his passes and they still try

1913
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: and throw the football less than twenty five times, you know,

1914
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: maybe that recipe's coming together. Maybe maybe the developments fast.

1915
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to happen that fast. I

1916
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen that fast. So I'm kind

1917
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: of with you. I mean, I think it's gonna be

1918
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:10,560
Speaker 1: a hard sell not only to the Bills fans, but

1919
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 1: also to the locker room telling those guys that, hey,

1920
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 1: we're good enough with the guys we've got Without Lashawn McCoy,

1921
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 1: it's a hard sell. We'll talk more about this question,

1922
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: and we hope to talk with Jerry Hughes, Bill's a

1923
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 1: defensive end, is going to join us in the third

1924
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 1: and final hour of the show. We'll hear from Josh

1925
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: Allen too, who just met the media here at one

1926
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. A lot of ground to cover. We'll get

1927
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: your phone calls on the air at eight three five

1928
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight by fifty

1929
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 1: two five fifty. Steve Tashka and I back for one

1930
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: more hour. One Bill's Live from One Bills Drive and

1931
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio Hills Radio Network Stories. Update

1932
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. Bills practice can pleat for Wednesday,

1933
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 1: the first day of the practice week is they get

1934
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: set to travel to Houston the Sunday they play the Texans.

1935
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde Raphael Bush, according to head coach Sean McDermott,

1936
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: both making progress. Both of them were limited in practice today.

1937
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 1: No practice participation report out yet from the Bills. Well.

1938
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Sean McCoy the focus of attention in the media amid

1939
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 1: trade rumors that the Philadelphia Eagles aren't interested in acquiring

1940
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 1: the McCoy again in a possible trade for the Bills

1941
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: talented running back. Head coach Sean McDermott said he's heard

1942
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 1: the rumors. Didn't have much to say about it. We

1943
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: did not go into much detail other than to say, well,

1944
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: Shawn is one of our better players. McCoy after practice said,

1945
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,560
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens, trying to stay focused on the

1946
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:40,839
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. First practice for Derek Anderson, the new quarterback

1947
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,679
Speaker 1: brought in yesterday. We'll hear what Josh Allen thinks about

1948
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 1: that in a moment. Bills bring in Derek Anderson Vida

1949
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: three mcdermotson Anderson does not change Nathan Peterman's status for

1950
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 1: this week. At least, Peterman is still the bills number

1951
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: two quarterback on the roster. The Houston Texans depth that

1952
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: corner has gotten even thinner. They put Cabon Webster on

1953
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 1: injured reserve yesterday. Webster playing in his first game since

1954
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 1: he toreas achilles last Sunday night. He did not last played,

1955
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: just sus two snaps before he was injured. Houston already

1956
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 1: put cornerback Kevin Johnson on IR. They'll be without cornerback

1957
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Colvin indefinitely. Last week. They relied heavily on former

1958
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 1: Bill's corner Sharif's Wright after Webster's injury, and they moved

1959
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: safety Kareem Jackson into the cornerback role as well. Jacksonville

1960
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: Jaguars have had more than their share of injuries at

1961
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 1: running back. They signed free agent to Mount Charles to

1962
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 1: a one year deal. Their third running back, Cory Grant,

1963
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 1: went on injured reserved. Charles is thirty one, worked out

1964
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 1: for the Jags on Tuesday morning before signing the deal.

1965
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers practice today after a day off yesterday, Coming

1966
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 1: after Monday's big four to two win over the Vegas

1967
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 1: Golden Nights. Sabers. With back to back victories, they go

1968
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: for three in a row Tomorrow night. Sabers home to

1969
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: take on Colorado Tomorrow night at seven o'clock. Last chance

1970
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 1: to see the Sabers at home until October twenty fifth,

1971
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, seven o'clock. That's the update from One Bill's Drive.

1972
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:58,200
Speaker 1: Steve was already excited about going to see the Sabers,

1973
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 1: So let's get the straight. We'll have gone to two

1974
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 1: of the first four games this year. That's pretty good. Yep.

1975
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: We got because of you know, the season and the

1976
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: football stuff, and we're going going on and traveling most weekends.

1977
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,640
Speaker 1: You can't do a Saturday Sunday game, and even a

1978
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 1: Friday night game I kind of want to stay away from.

1979
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: So I got to do all the Monday through Friday

1980
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 1: or Monday through Thursday games that I can get. I

1981
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 1: didn't go to the Saturday game because I was out

1982
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: of town, but I did go to the opening day

1983
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 1: Thursday and then and the one I was gonna go

1984
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 1: to the one Monday night Monday afternoon, Yes, yesterday, No,

1985
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: two days ago. But I was busy here at the

1986
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 1: stadium so three o'clock. Hey, it's a three o'clock game.

1987
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't you know, I couldn't get there, So I

1988
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 1: was bummed about accommodated you for that. Try to get

1989
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: you out here early didn't happen. Yeah, well the effort

1990
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 1: was appreciated, though unproductive. So I could not go to

1991
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:53,600
Speaker 1: the Monday night game. But I am going to the

1992
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: Thursday night game. All right. We hope to get Jerry

1993
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 1: used in the area. Is a lifting after practice. Stay

1994
01:39:58,280 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: tuned for that. We are going to talk more ab

1995
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: about Lashawn McCoy and the possible trade rumors involving him.

1996
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 1: But josh Amon Bills starting quarterback, met with the media

1997
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: moments ago here at one Bill's Drive after the Wednesday practice,

1998
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: and Anna was asked, how was the first day having

1999
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson in the quarterback room and on the field.

2000
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. It was awesome, you know,

2001
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 1: seeing him get here early, um, lifting earlier than us,

2002
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 1: and just kind of talking with him out in practice

2003
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 1: after practice, just the things that he's kind of been through,

2004
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 1: the things that he sees. Uh, you know, he's got

2005
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 1: a lot of experience in this league. He's a guy

2006
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 1: that it's gonna help me and Nate out and uh,

2007
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, lucky to have him for you development, to

2008
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: have a guy, I definitely think it's very beneficial, you know,

2009
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 1: just the experience that he brings to our room. You know,

2010
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 1: he's been the league. Thing is his fourteenth season now, Um,

2011
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 1: so he's seen a lot. He's been through a lot. Uh,

2012
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 1: any tidbits that he has, you know, I'm gonna take him.

2013
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run with him and try to apply him

2014
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:02,719
Speaker 1: to my game. Specific differences of period safe from David

2015
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: Colly or Brian Day versus a guy at your position

2016
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 1: who has those coached like years. Yeah, I mean he's

2017
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,679
Speaker 1: seen it. He knows how it feels in the pocket.

2018
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: He knows what it feels like to let the ball

2019
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 1: go early. Um. You know that's what we were doing

2020
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 1: after practice right now, just trying to get the ball

2021
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 1: out earlier and trusting the receivers coming out of their breaks.

2022
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, he's a big, strong arm guy

2023
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 1: kind of like myself that maybe struggled a little bit

2024
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 1: to beginning of his career with the touch and so

2025
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 1: from that aspect, like I think he's a perfect guy

2026
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 1: to help me out. And like I said, I'm assuming

2027
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 1: you look at him a little bit. Um, is there

2028
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: one thing already, maybe on the first day, that you've

2029
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 1: already taken from him? Yeah, for sure, Um, and keep

2030
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 1: those cards under the table right now. But you know,

2031
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 1: just trying to apply that to my game and allowed

2032
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 1: me to go out there and play freely, um, and

2033
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 1: complete the ball and help this offense move the change

2034
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 1: a delicate found. Look, your quarterbacks, you aren't alone beca

2035
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:04,919
Speaker 1: You're on this where you're trying to develop the quarterback,

2036
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 1: but you're also trying to win. And for this team,

2037
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 1: running the ball is really important to win. Is do

2038
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 1: you feel that balance of man, You want to throw

2039
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:14,640
Speaker 1: it and you want to develop and learn everything, but

2040
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 1: you know that you've ever stay within the structure of

2041
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 1: a maybe you know, not a stunted game plan, but

2042
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 1: a lesson the game plan. No, I want to win.

2043
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care how it happens. If we

2044
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 1: got to run it fifty times a game, we've got

2045
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 1: to throw it fifty times a game. Whatever enables us

2046
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 1: to to have a better chance of winning the football

2047
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 1: game is what I want to do. You can grow

2048
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: in that environment. Oh yeah, absolutely. We did this offense

2049
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: kind of a call up into what's else that there.

2050
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: Do you feel a need though, for balance You've got

2051
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 1: even if the running game is not as productive as

2052
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 1: you told you still can get to running the football

2053
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 1: you may open things up for you. Yeah. I think,

2054
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think every offense needs balance. I think

2055
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 1: when you get one dimensional, I think that ends up

2056
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:57,639
Speaker 1: pertin you. Um So, yeah, definitely, we got to play

2057
01:42:57,680 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: complimentary football on the offensive side of the ball. We

2058
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 1: gotta run it well, and we got to you know,

2059
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 1: play action, and we got to come out and we

2060
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 1: gotta throw it well and open up the run games.

2061
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: So it's all, you know, in one um So, that's

2062
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. We're just trying to make

2063
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 1: sure that we're clicking on all cylinders and we're gonna

2064
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 1: have a good week of practice and toward that you think.

2065
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a good step, but every week

2066
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 1: presents a different challenge. You know, we're going against a

2067
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:22,680
Speaker 1: really good front, really good defense in Houston, so uh,

2068
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 1: trying to prepare for whatever we've seen on tape and

2069
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, whatever we think they're gonna do. And just

2070
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:31,680
Speaker 1: like any other week, so we're preparing hard and you

2071
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 1: know coach Table is gonna have us ready on Sunday breakthrough.

2072
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 1: I know it's one moment and one set your first season,

2073
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: but that forty three left, you go in there and

2074
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 1: you know you leave it's a winning drive. And Coach

2075
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,560
Speaker 1: McDermot said today there guys more accomplished than you that

2076
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 1: can't that don't have that big of a deal. Um,

2077
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 1: like I said, whatever it takes to win football games.

2078
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 1: Um yeah, didn't feel and he added extra pressure going

2079
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 1: out with four minutes left. You know, it was really

2080
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 1: good that we executed the way we did, and you know,

2081
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: we had onto the ball to the last second of

2082
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 1: the game. We got in position where you know, we

2083
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 1: felt comfortable to kick it with House and um you know,

2084
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 1: when we can do that, run the ball and then

2085
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 1: come you know on third down we can get those

2086
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 1: third down completions and keep moving the chains and I

2087
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 1: Shady had a big catch on third down. Made some

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01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 1: guys miss. Um yeah, we went out there and we executed,

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01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 1: and our big guys played really well, and Shady and

2090
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:33,560
Speaker 1: see I made plays when they had to Josh Will

2091
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 1: makes the experiences that you can add these first five

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01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 1: hens of your career, you feel that happy in a

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01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 1: federate if they were there at that point in time. Verteficial. Um,

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01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 1: that's I mean it's hard to tell. Um, you know

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01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: that it's gonna help going forward, just the things that

2096
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 1: he sees on the sideline and things that he sees

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01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 1: in tape and film room. It's gonna help, you know,

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01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:54,680
Speaker 1: sitting down watching film with him, just kind of the

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01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 1: process that he's had his entire career and just trying

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01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:00,160
Speaker 1: to establish that into my routine. Um, just listen into

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01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 1: what he has to say and what he looks for.

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01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 1: So it's definitely very beneficial for you know, Nate myself. Um,

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01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 1: but I couldn't tell you if it would have helped

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01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 1: us or hurt us, you know previously. But like that,

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01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 1: you know, during camp, I over the cop Yeah, I

2106
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: mean obviously we weren't watching tape on very many people

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01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 1: other than ourselves in camp. But Aj was awesome. You know,

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01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 1: he's a he's a guy that you know I still

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01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 1: keep in touch with and um, one of the good dudes.

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01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 1: So um, yeah, it was very cool in that aspect.

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01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 1: As well. You do appreciate that it does take kind

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01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: of a certain guy and maybe at a certain stage

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01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: of his career, like there it is to willingly be

2114
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 1: in a role like this versus knowing every day passed

2115
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: the pass. You know, he wants to he wants the

2116
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 1: job that you got there comping. Do you do you

2117
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: appreciate that maybe a guy coming in without understanding that

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01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:54,520
Speaker 1: he's here to be something other than your competitor. Absolutely,

2119
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, it definitely doesn't add a whole lot of pressure. Um,

2120
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 1: but knowing that somebody just wants the actual best for you,

2121
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: that's a really good feeling. And to have. Obviously coaches

2122
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 1: in this building and um, you know our executives and

2123
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:11,759
Speaker 1: our higher ups understand that for me, so they wanted

2124
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 1: to get somebody that can help, you know, nate myself out. So, um,

2125
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's just gonna be awesome for us. He

2126
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 1: is the Texas watt and clown and you know they

2127
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 1: jump off any time you watch and look makes them

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01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 1: so dynamic. Well, obviously they're physically just freaks some nature.

2129
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 1: They're huge, and they're quick and they're fast. Um, you know,

2130
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 1: they're smart football players and they kind of do different things.

2131
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 1: They'll move around. They just kind of make it hard

2132
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 1: on on your offensive line. Um. You know. So we're

2133
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 1: trying to prepare as best as we can. You know,

2134
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: obviously they're very accomplished um defense. So, like I said,

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01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 1: we're just trying to do everything that we can to

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01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 1: prepare for him. Touchdown celebration with a Sean. He's still

2137
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: that he's working on. It was your swag? How do

2138
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 1: you feel like that's coming to a home He's he's

2139
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 1: got some work to do. You know. I don't feel

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01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: like I have tremendous swag. So if he's gonna take

2141
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 1: responsibility for that, he's gotta do a better job. There

2142
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 1: you go. Twenty two year old Josh Allen from Fireball California.

2143
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: I was looking at Jerry Hughes bio. There's a lot

2144
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 1: to like about this guy. He's got a long way

2145
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 1: to go, we know that, but a lot to like

2146
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 1: about him. And I do think I think it's been

2147
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 1: overlooked now when we're all talking about the Lashawan McCoy

2148
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 1: and I do think we maybe are downplaying a little

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01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: bit too much. That four minute, forty three second game

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01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 1: winning drive that he led last Sunday, that was pretty big. Listen,

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01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,760
Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of football on my day, and

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01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot. I've been a part of teams

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01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 1: who had that, teams who needed to do that, teams

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01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: that had a lot of breaks when they were in

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01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 1: a position to do that. That drive to me, that

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01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 1: four minutes and forty three seconds left in the game

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01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:51,599
Speaker 1: to drive down for a winning field goal forty six

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01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 1: yards as it was, and having it come off the

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01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:59,599
Speaker 1: way it did with no time on the clock. That's

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01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 1: as impressive a drive as I've seen all year from

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01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 1: any team in the league. You can say they didn't

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01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: ask Josh Allen to do all that much, but I

2163
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: don't know what happened to The Tennessee Titans absolutely lost

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01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 1: the game by their defense in that situation. The Bill's

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01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 1: offense did exactly what they needed to do. They ran

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01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 1: the clock, they used the timeouts, they forced Tennessee to

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01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 1: use all their timeouts. They set up, they got on

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01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 1: the correct hash mark, They took the time out when

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01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: they needed it. They you know, they just ran a

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01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 1: four and a minute and forty three second drive to

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01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 1: absolute perfection in a game where their quarterback only through

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01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 1: for eighty five yards and I can't say enough about

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01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 1: that drive. It said a lot about the entire squad.

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01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 1: Certainly they didn't ask Josh Allen to do it all

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01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,839
Speaker 1: by himself. He threw the ball three times and Shady

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01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:00,959
Speaker 1: made you know, sixteen guys missed on a third down conversion,

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01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 1: but it was four down territory, and just that drive

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01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 1: won the game, plain and simple, you know. And among

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01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: the many things alike about it as far as Josh

2180
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 1: Allen was that, as you pointed out, they got the

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01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 1: timing right, I mean, they gave Tennessee no time to

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01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 1: respond to that. He seemed decisive, as decisive as he

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01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 1: has ever seemed. I thought on that drive, knew where

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01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: to go to the ball. There weren't deep passes. There

2185
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 1: weren't even intermediate passes, a little one to Shady, little

2186
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 1: one to Ray Ray McCloud, little toss, sweep to Chris Ivory,

2187
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 1: the three million plays, but it seemed as if Josh

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01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 1: Allen knew exactly what it was called and how he

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01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 1: was going to execute it. And to me, that was

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01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 1: extremely impressive throughout that drive. You don't typically get that

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01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 1: from a twenty two year old quarterback in his fourth

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01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 1: NFL start, plus, I think it says something about the

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01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 1: guys around him. The offensive line came up big, Chris

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01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 1: ivrown second and eight. You're thinking, Okay, we need to

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01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 1: get into a manageable third down. He gets the first down. Yeah,

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01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 1: snaps off a nine yard run and that's all about

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01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 1: the big guys up front and everybody around Josh Allen

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01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:05,720
Speaker 1: executing and that drive was the most impressive part of

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01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 1: this early season for the Bills. Yep, Well, a lot

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01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 1: more to talk about, a lot more to talk about

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01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 1: the Lashawan McCoy. But when we returned, we're gonna talk

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01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,679
Speaker 1: with Jerry Hughes. Bill's defensive ends off to a great start,

2203
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 1: so a part of this season. He'll be in studio

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01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 1: with us when we come back. Steve Tasker, John Murphy

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Speaker 1: One Goes Live from One Goes Drive. This is Buffalo

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01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show One Bills Live

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01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 1: from One Goals Drive. Murphy Steve Tasker, joined in studio

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01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 1: by one of the standouts for the bills outstanding defense

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Speaker 1: over the last three or four weeks. Now happy to

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01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 1: have defensive end Jerry Hues in studio with us live. Jerry,

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01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 1: thanks for coming along. We appreciate it, guys, thanks for

2212
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 1: having me. What changed after a game and a half,

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01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 1: It was like somebody flipped a switch in the Buffalo defense.

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01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 1: What do you think changed? I just think guys are

2215
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 1: getting a lot more comfortable the defense, getting comfortable around

2216
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 1: each other. You know, Tremaine's only twenty, so he's doing

2217
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 1: a fantastic job of learning the defense, understanding each week

2218
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: the game plan is going to change. How he can

2219
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:12,640
Speaker 1: kind of get the communication out to us that has

2220
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 1: picked up tremendously. He's doing a fantastic job with that.

2221
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,600
Speaker 1: Our secondary, you know, they're doing a great job and

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01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 1: forcing the quarterback to kind of go through their second

2223
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 1: and third reason. We talked about tightening up some in

2224
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: our red zone air and then on upfront with me,

2225
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, Trent, Star, Kyle, those guys. You know, when

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01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 1: our secondary is clicking with our linebackers up front, it

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01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 1: just allows us to kind of just pin out years

2228
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:36,599
Speaker 1: back and go. You had a couple of rough weeks

2229
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 1: to begin the season, but I always said, you know,

2230
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: and you know this from watching film when I played,

2231
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 1: it is never as bad as it looked, and it

2232
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 1: is never as good as it looks when you're playing well,

2233
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 1: and even though the scoreboards out of hand, it never

2234
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: was probably never that far away from playing good defense.

2235
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:53,799
Speaker 1: And then when you do switch a little something small,

2236
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 1: it has a big ripple effect, and all of a sudden,

2237
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: you guys are a top ten defense. Absolutely absolutely, I

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01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 1: mean that's pretty cool. But exactly like you said, you know,

2239
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 1: when you look at the film and you break down

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01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 1: the whole series of a game, you know, one or

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01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 1: two plays here, one or two, you know, wrinkles changed there,

2242
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 1: and that makes a huge difference. And so for us,

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01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 1: it's just finding those wrinkles, ironing them out early, so

2244
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 1: that way, you know, we don't face that problem Sunday. Yeah.

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01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 1: The problem is it works both ways. You have one

2246
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:21,640
Speaker 1: guy make a misstep and all of a sudden, you

2247
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:23,599
Speaker 1: all look bad too, so you gotta stay on him,

2248
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, for sixty minutes. Oh yeah, but it just

2249
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 1: comes to us working well and uh communicate. Had a

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01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 1: big debate. You had the sacking on sack on Marcus

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01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 1: Mariota and he kind of did the pump fake. You

2252
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 1: hugged him, and I know this, you had your head down.

2253
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 1: You kind of kind of snuck in, you know, it

2254
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 1: kind of happened fast, and he get this motion where

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01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 1: it felt to you like the ball was gone and

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01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't gone, So you couldn't like dump him. No,

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01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 1: not at all. That that's the rule that they put

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01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 1: the emphasis on. And we've seen with Clay Matthews countless

2259
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 1: times where you know, you take that quarterback and you

2260
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:56,799
Speaker 1: finish them off to the ground. It's the fifteen yard penalty,

2261
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 1: and given that they were already in the fringe area,

2262
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 1: suddenly don't want to put them any closer to the

2263
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 1: end zone. So for me, once I felt that ball

2264
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 1: hit my shoulder pad, it was either tackle him or

2265
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: let go and find the ball, you know, do the

2266
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 1: smart football play. So I tried to locate the ball.

2267
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:14,559
Speaker 1: Luckily for him it was it kind of fell back

2268
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:17,599
Speaker 1: into this hands stinks though sacks are hard to get.

2269
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 1: It is you got to wrestle twenty pounds and you

2270
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 1: got to get there quite quite the time because you

2271
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,800
Speaker 1: know quarterbacks are getting the ball out, I mean less

2272
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 1: than three seconds. That truly is a result of the

2273
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 1: rule change this year, right, I mean you thought the

2274
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:32,719
Speaker 1: ball was gone and you didn't want a chance getting

2275
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty that situation, right, how many other

2276
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:36,680
Speaker 1: times you'd be been up against that, maybe not a

2277
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 1: play like that where but where you had to think

2278
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 1: to yourself, I gotta be careful. I gotta land differently

2279
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 1: in a quarterback. I gotta tackle a quarterback differently every sack.

2280
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:47,599
Speaker 1: Every sack, you're aware because if you use your momentum

2281
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 1: and you fall through like you're like you've been taught

2282
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 1: to since you know, peewee, of finishing an actual tackle,

2283
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, that's a penalty. So for now, it's been

2284
01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 1: just launching, rapping in gator roll and what we call

2285
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: gator roll, and you just wrap and spend the guy

2286
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 1: around that way it forces him the hangos of the ball,

2287
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 1: so he's not throwing a air throw, you know, just anywhere.

2288
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 1: When did you start working on that technique as a team.

2289
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 1: You guys started this spring we worked on at some

2290
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 1: and then once we started to see the rule, really

2291
01:54:15,479 --> 01:54:19,599
Speaker 1: put in a emphasis on training camp and then as well, uh,

2292
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 1: these first couple of weeks just throughout the season as

2293
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 1: part of our tackling circuit. Well, so you're gonna play

2294
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans this week, you're head at home? Yeah,

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01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 1: what does that mean to you? Going back home? And also,

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01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, you've been kind of a you know, a

2297
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 1: fixture in their community, in your hometown as well. It's

2298
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 1: a lot of tickets for me. I think I'm up

2299
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 1: to about twenty two right now, so so kind of

2300
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: checking my phone and seeing how many more names are

2301
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 1: going to show up on that list. But you know,

2302
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 1: also it's just it's a town where my wife and

2303
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 1: I we both grew up, we met each other at

2304
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a lot of fun just to

2305
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 1: go back home play in front of some families and

2306
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 1: friends really who hadn't seen me play since college. So

2307
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 1: it'd be a lot of fun. You know, it's always

2308
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 1: good to kind of help the community out, you know,

2309
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: given the recent tragedy that just hit there with that hurricane.

2310
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 1: You know, we always shining ways to just do our

2311
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 1: fellow duties, you know, be an American, help out your

2312
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 1: fellow citizen in the time of need. And that's something

2313
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 1: that we both felt was near and dear to our hearts.

2314
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 1: Just about a year ago, Jerry and I think you

2315
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 1: came out on the show just about a year ago

2316
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 1: to talk about that. How did that turn out? The

2317
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 1: hurricane was early September, A, yeah, right, just the four

2318
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 1: week one. Yeah, it was, it was. It was pretty

2319
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 1: early on. We ended up just donating and I think

2320
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 1: roughly around twenty five thousand to the mayor and his

2321
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,840
Speaker 1: city of relief funds just to kind of help out

2322
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 1: there with the city. You know, a lot of people

2323
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: lost a lot, you know. Thankfully for my family as

2324
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 1: well as uh my wives, you know, we didn't have

2325
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:51,720
Speaker 1: any too severe damage to our homes. You know, people

2326
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 1: were pulled out of the house by boat, but it

2327
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 1: wasn't anything too major. But you know, for other people

2328
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 1: who were a lot less fortunate in that situation, you

2329
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 1: certainly want to get back and help them because natural

2330
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 1: disasters is not really someone you can kind of point

2331
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:06,280
Speaker 1: the finger out. You just want to help your fellow

2332
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: American out student covered pretty well from that storm. A

2333
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 1: year later, would you say the city is everything back

2334
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 1: to normal there? And it's sorry, Yeah, for the most part.

2335
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean the city has recruit, we have rebuild. But

2336
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, those kind of storms it's really tough to

2337
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: kind of get back from because you know, people lose lives,

2338
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 1: personal belongings, you know, animals, things like that that are

2339
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 1: very dear to a lot of people's hearts, so it's

2340
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:29,120
Speaker 1: kind of hard to kind of put a put a

2341
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 1: real stap along. You know what you lose. So you're

2342
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 1: going in, let's talk about the football game. What do

2343
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 1: you see in the Texans offense? And what do you

2344
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 1: here coming out about Deshaun Watson his chest injury and

2345
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:41,640
Speaker 1: all of that. Do you buy that that he may

2346
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 1: not play? No, because he finished the game on Sunday,

2347
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 1: Monday Night one in overtime. Their offense is very explosive.

2348
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 1: I think they've been putting up up roughly around four

2349
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 1: hundred yards a game. And then with Deshaun, you have

2350
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:56,720
Speaker 1: a guy who's mobile, who's able to make plays with

2351
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 1: his feet, but also keep his eyes downfield for those

2352
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 1: big plays, and he finds Hopkins a lot on a

2353
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 1: lot of those big plays where you know it can

2354
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 1: turn into a sack, where it can start off to

2355
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 1: look like a sack and then next thing you know,

2356
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 1: it's an eighty yard play. So I think for us,

2357
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 1: it's just keeping that pressure on him all all game

2358
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 1: and then trying to really force them into throwing into

2359
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: really small, tight windows. He's been sacked a lot. Deshaun

2360
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: Watson is eighteen sacks, second in the NFL. How were

2361
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 1: teams getting to him? What are they doing to get

2362
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 1: to him? I think they're doing a great job disguising

2363
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 1: their looks. You know, it's just his second year in

2364
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 1: the league, so you see him making a lot of

2365
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 1: checks at the line. You know, he's taking over the

2366
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 1: reins of that offense, which is great. But I think

2367
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 1: just the back seven has been doing a fantsastic job

2368
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 1: but just mixing up their looks, trying to just hide

2369
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 1: and be very conscious in their coverages and how they

2370
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 1: set it up. We're showing on screen some of the

2371
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 1: shots he took in running the football against the Cowboys

2372
01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 1: the other night. Their team is number four in the

2373
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 1: NFL and yards put up, but they're you know, type

2374
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 1: eighteenth and scoring or scoring yeah points a game, so

2375
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 1: they're not really putting up a lot of points, but

2376
01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 1: they're moving it all over the field, and so it's

2377
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of got to focus on what

2378
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 1: situational football, right, red zone defense, getting him off the field,

2379
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 1: and third down. Especially for us, it'll be third down

2380
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 1: and red zone because we're sure they know that stat

2381
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 1: about them not really doing too well in the red zone.

2382
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 1: I heard it Monday nights so I'm pretty sure they're

2383
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:28,200
Speaker 1: gonna put a lot more emphasis is kind of iron

2384
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 1: out those venicals. For us, it's how we can get

2385
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 1: their field goal kicker on the field more. I mean,

2386
01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 1: we saw him struggle a little bit Monday nights, so

2387
01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: really putting that pressure on him and us tightening up

2388
01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 1: our red zone coverages and getting our offense a real

2389
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 1: solid chance. Actually, we always talk about that, and it's

2390
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 1: always like red zone offense. This red zone offense that

2391
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, everybody always talks about the offense. But what

2392
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:51,880
Speaker 1: do you guys focus on a defense when you get

2393
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 1: down to the red zone. I know it the field

2394
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 1: becomes wide and shallow rather than deep and long. So

2395
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:00,440
Speaker 1: how does that change your guys added and what are

2396
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 1: some of the general rules you start to change when

2397
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 1: you get down close to your own goal line. For

2398
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: us up front, it's understanding the animal you're hunting. That's

2399
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 1: something that we talk about each week in our room.

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01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 1: Are you having a statute quarterback or someone who can

2401
01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 1: who's very mobile, who can make plays with his legs,

2402
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 1: likes the ball and it stands for us we have

2403
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 1: Deshaun He fits that category perfect. So it's just understanding

2404
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:24,839
Speaker 1: not opening up too many rush lanes, understanding what rushes

2405
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna go with now in that red zone area

2406
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 1: to kind of keep him in the pocket that way,

2407
01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 1: he's throwing in those smaller windows, because with our back

2408
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:34,400
Speaker 1: seven back there being as fast and athletic as they are,

2409
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 1: you really want him to throw the ball versus him

2410
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 1: running it with his legs. So it's just really about

2411
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 1: being a lot more conscious which the rush with your

2412
01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 1: offensive linement, so you're not opening up huge gaping holes,

2413
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:48,640
Speaker 1: allowing him to just see receivers downfield, and then also

2414
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 1: giving him that option of tucking and just running. Jerry,

2415
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 1: we had a responder on Twitter earlier today. I can't

2416
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 1: find it, but he has something along the lines of

2417
01:59:57,240 --> 01:59:59,800
Speaker 1: can you get can you ask Jerry what Star Lottula

2418
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:02,200
Speaker 1: Lay has meant to the bills depensil mining and in

2419
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 1: particular to you this year, what has started done for

2420
02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:07,080
Speaker 1: oh Man the big guy by him commanding a double team.

2421
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 1: I think for everyone up front that's huge because you

2422
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:12,480
Speaker 1: can't put two guys on anyone else, and he commands

2423
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 1: a double team with Forrest. It's not like you know

2424
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:17,880
Speaker 1: they're working him. You see him knocking two guys back.

2425
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 1: He has a hand on each guy as he's you know,

2426
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 1: splitting a double team making a tackle something. You have

2427
02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:26,680
Speaker 1: a guy up front who commands that double team and

2428
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 1: can work it well and then also knows how to

2429
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, plug the run, knows where the ball is,

2430
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 1: understands what the offense is doing, how to attack them.

2431
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 1: It helps us out tremendously up front. So now we

2432
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:41,400
Speaker 1: can all four work together. It isn't three or two guys,

2433
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 1: or you split the line half and half. Is all

2434
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:48,320
Speaker 1: four working cohesively together to just hunting, just shut down

2435
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 1: that whole running game. And then when you run a

2436
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:53,840
Speaker 1: four three defense, it can be done. Yeah. Start, he doesn't.

2437
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:56,280
Speaker 1: It's not like he's a nifty little Yeah. He just

2438
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:58,720
Speaker 1: if they get one guy on, I mean he's forklifting

2439
02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 1: back quarter. I mean he's just pushing him back, and

2440
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 1: it happens fast, happens fast. That's a mismatch in our favor,

2441
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:06,800
Speaker 1: and we'll take it. You put Star one along with anyone.

2442
02:01:06,920 --> 02:01:08,680
Speaker 1: We say it all the time. He's gonna work here,

2443
02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:10,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna win. And you know, you guys are all

2444
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:12,280
Speaker 1: about rotation up front. And I was thinking this morning

2445
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:15,560
Speaker 1: about how how the new guy Jordan Phillips says, he's

2446
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:17,480
Speaker 1: a part of the rotation and a big, giant guy

2447
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 1: like that who seems pretty athletic. It's got to be

2448
02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 1: a big addition to what you're doing up front. Big

2449
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: guy with the lots of energy, which is fun. It's

2450
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:25,360
Speaker 1: it's it's fun to have that on the field because

2451
02:01:25,360 --> 02:01:27,280
Speaker 1: you kind of feed off off you feed off that,

2452
02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 1: and then for him just to be running around making place.

2453
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 1: He's another guy a very similar to lack Star. If

2454
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:35,600
Speaker 1: you don't put two guys on him, you know, at

2455
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:38,720
Speaker 1: six six three plus, he's gonna be in your face.

2456
02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 1: And I mean that's clogging up a lot of run lanes,

2457
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:43,400
Speaker 1: passing lanes. So I mean it's a lot of fun.

2458
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:46,480
Speaker 1: We enjoyed having him in our room. There's no question

2459
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,760
Speaker 1: that you know, your side of the ball, the defensive

2460
02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 1: side has been you know, kind of the engine that

2461
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 1: held the team together and you know, keeping the other

2462
02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:55,120
Speaker 1: team off the scoreboards. You got a young quarterback and

2463
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:58,760
Speaker 1: we were talking to the last segment about how big

2464
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:01,440
Speaker 1: it was for you guys to stand you four or

2465
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 1: forty three left in the game. You need your offense

2466
02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:05,880
Speaker 1: to you know, you got to do something now. And

2467
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 1: they put together a game winning drive with no time

2468
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:10,560
Speaker 1: on the clock. You guy goes in and kicks it

2469
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 1: game over. For all the work that you guys did

2470
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 1: to hold these teams under twenty points and in this

2471
02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:19,560
Speaker 1: place under fifteen points, to go out and have your

2472
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 1: offense win it like they did, that's got to be

2473
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:24,720
Speaker 1: a huge confidence boost going forward. It was so satisfying

2474
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:28,240
Speaker 1: just to be able to do exactly what you said.

2475
02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:29,760
Speaker 1: You know, we turned the ball over to them, and

2476
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:32,920
Speaker 1: they did exactly what they do what a successful offense does.

2477
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 1: They went into four minute mode. They worked the clock,

2478
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 1: had great successful runs, got in position, kicked the field goal,

2479
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:41,360
Speaker 1: ice the game, game over. It was a lot of

2480
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:43,520
Speaker 1: fun just to be able to sit back and watch

2481
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:46,680
Speaker 1: Josh and those guys go to work. Hey, Jerry, thanks

2482
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 1: for this great dude to have me on the show.

2483
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 1: Continued success, have a great trip home to Houston, and

2484
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:52,760
Speaker 1: come out of there with the wind that make it

2485
02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 1: even better, right, Thanks for having me. Thanks for stopping by, man,

2486
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:58,760
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes, Bill's defensive end joining us. Now time for

2487
02:02:58,920 --> 02:03:01,120
Speaker 1: coffee with the coach. Ris brown sits down with head

2488
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:06,000
Speaker 1: coach Sean McDermott. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the week sixth

2489
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:08,800
Speaker 1: edition of Coffee with the Coach, presented by Tim Hortons.

2490
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:11,280
Speaker 1: I'm Chris Brown along with Bill's head coach Sean McDermott.

2491
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:14,000
Speaker 1: As the Bills hit the road to face the Texans

2492
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:17,080
Speaker 1: down in Houston for a one pm kickoff on Sunday.

2493
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 1: Coach is always thanks for being with us. So your

2494
02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:23,600
Speaker 1: last second win last week certainly an emotional one. How

2495
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 1: does the messaging for your team change for you the

2496
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 1: following week coming off an emotional win, maybe as opposed

2497
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 1: to a disappointing loss. Is there any difference? We try

2498
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:36,000
Speaker 1: to stay as consistent as possible. Honestly, Chris, it's a

2499
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:39,000
Speaker 1: long season, so we don't ride the highs and get

2500
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 1: into the valleys and the lows. But overall it's to

2501
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:44,960
Speaker 1: reinforce why they got the results that they got in

2502
02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:47,640
Speaker 1: terms of the win and all the preparation and all

2503
02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 1: the dedication, sacrifice and learning from some mistakes that that

2504
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 1: really led to the successfu head. On the field, your

2505
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Speaker 1: defense has quietly moved to the fringes of being in

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Speaker 1: the top five in the league, currently ranked six. Not surprisingly,

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Speaker 1: the defense also ranked sixth in number of plays allowed

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Speaker 1: of twenty yards or more, just sixteen through the first

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Speaker 1: five games. I know that's probably a number that's still

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02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:12,840
Speaker 1: too high for you. But you know what has it

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02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 1: been with your defenders that's made them so able to

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Speaker 1: keep everything in front of them? Well, they've done a

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Speaker 1: great job, I think all the way from the defensive

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Speaker 1: coaching staff down through the players in terms of the

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Speaker 1: overall messaging from a philosophical standpoint, the coaches and players

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02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 1: are understanding our philosophy better than we did maybe at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, and that's translating to probably

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Speaker 1: more clarity and better play overall in the field. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so now we look ahead to the Texans. Some weekly

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Speaker 1: word association. So what do you think of when you

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Speaker 1: hear the name J. J. Wattmant dominant defensive lineman, one

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Speaker 1: of the best to ever play the game, and he's

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Speaker 1: a game changer. Agether, we'll have to count four on

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Speaker 1: every run and every past How about DeAndre Hopkins another

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Speaker 1: game changer. They've got the talented players, tough matchups. It'll

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Speaker 1: make for a long day for us, but you know,

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Speaker 1: a great week of preparation should put us in good position.

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Speaker 1: And then Deshaun Watson another young player for them in

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Speaker 1: this case, certainly coming back off the injury obviously, but

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Speaker 1: playing at a high level. Went through the process with

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Speaker 1: him a couple of years ago without and very talented

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Speaker 1: young man. That's a great leader. All right, coach, appreciate

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Speaker 1: the feedback on those. Now it's time for our fan

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Speaker 1: Question of the week, a chance for you the fan

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Speaker 1: to ask coach a question. This week's question comes from

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Speaker 1: Josh McCarty on Twitter, and he asked, coach, when attempting

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Speaker 1: to set up a game winning field goal attempt, what

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02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:42,960
Speaker 1: once you get within your kickers range, are you more

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02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:45,440
Speaker 1: concerned about lining it up on the correct cash mark

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Speaker 1: or continuing to gain yardage to shorten the kick. Well,

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02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:50,520
Speaker 1: that's a great question, Johnson. I think, really, Chris, it's

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Speaker 1: a balance of making sure we're in range number one

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Speaker 1: insuring range, so putting a little bit of insurance on

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Speaker 1: top of it, and then getting it into the right

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02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:01,360
Speaker 1: spot based on the condition. And House did a great

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02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:03,920
Speaker 1: job of communicating that today. All right, good enough, coach.

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02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 1: Good luck getting a back to back win on the

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Speaker 1: road this week. Thanks Chris, all right, that's Bill's head coach.

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. This has been Coffee with the Coach, presented

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Speaker 1: by Tim Hortons. Thanks for watching. We'll see you next week.

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02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:16,840
Speaker 1: That's right, Coffee with the Coach, Chris says, a little

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02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:19,680
Speaker 1: couple of Joe with head coach Sean McDermott. Either one

2553
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:22,280
Speaker 1: of them even touched their coffee that little Tim Horton

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02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:24,320
Speaker 1: comes there. They're just sitting there talking. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you were one of them miss sipping their coffee. Don't know,

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Speaker 1: Brownie does. I don't think such as Coffee the Coach

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Speaker 1: presented by Tim Hortons Cafe and Bake Chap, the official

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02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 1: coffee of the Buffalo Bills. We're talking today about Lashawn

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02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 1: McCoy spent a lot of time talking about it. A

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02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 1: few minutes left to talk about it here. Look, we

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02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:41,360
Speaker 1: know what the trade would mean to Philadelphia. It would

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02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:44,200
Speaker 1: mean a top flight running back and they trying to

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Speaker 1: get their their ship straightened out down there ship, I said,

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02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:49,640
Speaker 1: straightened out down there in Philadelphia and moving forward, trying

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02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:51,800
Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs. But what would it mean

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02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:53,960
Speaker 1: for the Bills. But our twitter poll, we had good

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Speaker 1: response on this. On the tweet chets, Yeah, I got one.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna read a different one. I'm gonna read

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Speaker 1: this one instead from Dinah. Next year, we will have

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Speaker 1: cap space and drafts if we trade Shady Now it

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02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:05,360
Speaker 1: shows that the front office has given up on the season.

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Speaker 1: My only question is what does Shady want if he

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02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:10,800
Speaker 1: prefers his chances with Philly, and then we should respect

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Speaker 1: that we might make the playoffs this year but not

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. That's a really well thought out response,

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Speaker 1: It really is. I think it really is. I think

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Speaker 1: at first people said, well, anybody asked Shady what he wants?

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Speaker 1: And I thought, quite frankly, it doesn't matter what the

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Speaker 1: player wants. But I think it's a well thought out

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02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 1: response to it is because you do want to because

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02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:33,520
Speaker 1: that would say a lot. That would say a lot

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Speaker 1: to the rest of the guys in the locker room

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Speaker 1: about what their opinions mean. Not that you know, not

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Speaker 1: that Shady isn't a special guy, and that in this

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Speaker 1: situation his opinion means more than anybody else's. But when

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Speaker 1: it's hit talking about his career, it'll go around the

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Speaker 1: locker room that when time comes for everybody else's career

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02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 1: in there in that locker room to take a turn.

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Speaker 1: One way or the other. They will be consulted. They're

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Speaker 1: not just a commodity. I think there's something to be

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Speaker 1: said for that. I don't know if it'll ever get

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Speaker 1: to that at this point of this transaction we're talking

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02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:04,320
Speaker 1: about or discussing, right man, I don't know if that

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02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:06,920
Speaker 1: should supersede what's in the best interest of the team. Either.

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02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:09,640
Speaker 1: It shouldn't. No, it shouldn't supersede it, but it should

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Speaker 1: be heard. At least Shady will have a say and say, hey,

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02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:14,240
Speaker 1: what do you think? And at least he'll be able

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02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:15,640
Speaker 1: to say it, and then you can explain to him

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02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:17,839
Speaker 1: some Well, I get it, but here's what the problem

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02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:21,560
Speaker 1: we have with doing your wishes or letting you know.

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02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:25,120
Speaker 1: So I think it's a I think it's a best

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Speaker 1: case scenario that Shady at least has a voice and

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Speaker 1: not the deciding voice, but at least he knows he's heard,

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02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:31,720
Speaker 1: and I think that goes a long way in the locker.

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Speaker 1: Two more from the tweet chet, I'll give you the

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Speaker 1: last one. I'm going to read from Crypto Convict. The

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Speaker 1: only way the bill should trade Shady is if the

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Speaker 1: offer is nearly impossible to turn down. He is vital

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Speaker 1: to this offense, and by trading him, you leave a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback with no wide receivers and running backs. That's

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02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 1: a lot to put on a rookie quarterback. That's absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm reluctant to think about this, But I

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Speaker 1: understand you have to think about it, and I'm especially

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Speaker 1: reluctant to do it before you have to, which is

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Speaker 1: October thirtieth. You get the last one, all right, to

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Speaker 1: summarizes that's right, Yeah, he says, I think the next

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Speaker 1: two games are gonna tell the story of McCoy. They

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Speaker 1: are two winnable games. You lose both and I think

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Speaker 1: he's gone. Maybe that's a little bit that has a

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02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:14,560
Speaker 1: little ring of finality to it, but I think we've

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02:09:14,600 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 1: talked about that during the show. It does. The next

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Speaker 1: two games do have a say about what happens in

2623
02:09:19,160 --> 02:09:22,200
Speaker 1: this season? Do you do the Bills dig themselves a

2624
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:24,720
Speaker 1: hole they can't climb out of? And do they start

2625
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:29,280
Speaker 1: thinking about building a draft class for the Ages next

2626
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:34,160
Speaker 1: spring with using Lashawn McCoy this year as as leverage

2627
02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:36,560
Speaker 1: for that. I don't know, but if they win these

2628
02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:39,320
Speaker 1: next two games, they go to four and three and

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02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:43,600
Speaker 1: they're not gonna lose any ground to anybody. Right, what

2630
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:47,760
Speaker 1: if they split them? And I think and the expectations

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02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:49,760
Speaker 1: change you if they split them, what are you gonna do?

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02:09:49,880 --> 02:09:52,880
Speaker 1: Then that makes them three and four? Yeah, I don't know.

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02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:55,120
Speaker 1: The interesting questions if we've got a lot of mileage

2634
02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:56,800
Speaker 1: out of it today and probably more to come in

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02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 1: the days and weeks. They had the trade deadline four

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Speaker 1: pm on October thirtieth, the day after the Bills played

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. All Right, we're gonna take a break,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We had Thurman in here, Thurman Thomas,

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer per after you've heard of him.

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02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:42,600
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas had some thoughts on the trade rumors involving

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02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:47,200
Speaker 1: Bills running back Lashawn McCoy, You might have to, like

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Speaker 1: I keep saying, I don't want to see it, But

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02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:51,960
Speaker 1: I thought you have to also look at the situation

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Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia Eagles to hire their season going to

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Speaker 1: be going up until the trade deadline? Right yeah, I

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02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 1: mean they got going back to the super Bowl, and

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02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:05,000
Speaker 1: even in that division, nine wins might get you that

2653
02:11:05,120 --> 02:11:07,280
Speaker 1: division anyway, So how will they be all the way

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02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:09,600
Speaker 1: up until the trade deadline? I mean, does Carson Wentz

2655
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:11,920
Speaker 1: going out again? Nick Bows come in? You got the

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02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:15,560
Speaker 1: factory into all those things like that. So it's tough.

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02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:19,480
Speaker 1: It's a tough position to be in. I know, Brandon

2658
02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:23,200
Speaker 1: Bean and Sean McDermot and probably I mean his life. Well,

2659
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:25,880
Speaker 1: this is what we have to have in order to

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02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:30,560
Speaker 1: trade him, no more, no less. Irman Thomas on the

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02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:34,440
Speaker 1: possibility the rumors anyway about a trade. Sean McDermott, heard

2662
02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:37,760
Speaker 1: on this show earlier today, talked earlier today about Derek Anderson,

2663
02:11:37,800 --> 02:11:40,520
Speaker 1: the Bill's new third string quarterback this week, and he

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02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:43,880
Speaker 1: talked about how Anderson could be a mentor for Josh Allen.

2665
02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:49,000
Speaker 1: Been around Derek and Carolina I was on the other

2666
02:11:49,040 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 1: side of the ball naturally, but really liked his personality

2667
02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:55,920
Speaker 1: and the way he helped the football team both when

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02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:59,040
Speaker 1: he played and then primarily his role down there was

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02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:03,120
Speaker 1: having as a backup and how he helped Cam on

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Speaker 1: and off the field a little bit there. And I'm

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02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:07,840
Speaker 1: just a smart football player that's seen a lot of

2672
02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:11,640
Speaker 1: football NFL football over the years, and and you know,

2673
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:13,080
Speaker 1: it brings quite a bit to the table as far

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02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 1: as that goes on, Well, schedually have Derek Anderson on

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02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:18,839
Speaker 1: the show with us tomorrow after practice. Also, John McClain,

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Speaker 1: long time writer for the Houston Chronicle, covers the Euston Texans.

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02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:24,200
Speaker 1: Good Buddy Steves. He'll be on with this on the

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Speaker 1: show tomorrow as well. Hey, um, Twitter Pols, let me

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Speaker 1: get to that first. H It was a pretty good

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02:12:29,800 --> 02:12:32,480
Speaker 1: tone only because I think there's a difference of opinion

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02:12:32,680 --> 02:12:35,320
Speaker 1: a little in this respect. Most people when they think

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Speaker 1: about it deeply, as Thurman did, say I don't want to.

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02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:41,080
Speaker 1: But in his emotion was great Thurman say, but you

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02:12:41,200 --> 02:12:43,280
Speaker 1: might have to write that's how we kind of feel

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02:12:43,280 --> 02:12:46,560
Speaker 1: about it too. That's the prevailing sentiment. Yeah, they'll do

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02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:49,640
Speaker 1: it for the right price. But the position the Bills

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02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 1: right this minute are in a position of strength. They

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02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:53,680
Speaker 1: don't want to get rid of him, and they're doing

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02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:57,040
Speaker 1: fine with him. And a number two and number three

2690
02:12:57,160 --> 02:12:59,520
Speaker 1: with in a season where they've already got ten draft picks.

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Speaker 1: I don't need that. Nobody would like to see that,

2692
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 1: but a sermon said you might have to. I do

2693
02:13:04,320 --> 02:13:06,080
Speaker 1: disagree when he said the Bills are in a tough spot.

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02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:08,040
Speaker 1: I think you're in a great spot. Yeah, they're in

2695
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:11,160
Speaker 1: a good, strong spot right now. Our Twitter poll, fifty

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02:13:11,480 --> 02:13:13,760
Speaker 1: some percent of you thought that as far as training

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Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy, fifty three percent say the what it would

2698
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:19,360
Speaker 1: mean for the Bills is that the return was too

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Speaker 1: good doing nor Twenty eight percent say you're giving up

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Speaker 1: on the season. Sixty percent say you're saying that Ivory

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Speaker 1: and Murphy are good enough. Other three percent. So there

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Speaker 1: you go. It's an interesting question. We'll have another interesting

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Speaker 1: question tomorrow. I'm sure, right. Yeah, that's what we do,

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Speaker 1: awake in bed at night until we come up with one,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes it happens that way. Stare at the ceiling.

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